The Tempenny Tower quest is so jacked up lol, I know players usually avoid that quest because of karma loss, and Three Dog scolding you about Roy, never knowing the true side of the story. What's crazy about helping the ghouls get in, is that even after you convinced everyone to let them in diplomatically, Roy double crosses everyone. There was nothing righteous or innocent about him at all. Too bad there wasn't an option to go to Three Dog and correct him, hearing a apology on GNR. Other than that, I only do the quest for the caps, by ending Roy and Co.
@@VongolaXZax Is it not a good deed to give water to the thirsty. You also gain karma in new vegas for giving medical supplies to julie farkas. Whats the point here?
I knew you could ask Manya who's in charge in Megaton and get different responses if both Moriarty and Simms are alive, if one or the other is alive, or if both of them are dead. But I had no clue you could literally usurp Simms as sheriff and have the other characters recognize you.
Hold on, not only did Roy kill the tenpenny residents after you told them everything will be fine when the ghouls came in, but he also sent messages telling other Ghouls to kill humans who know about the tower? The fauck you mean I lose karma if I kill him after realizing this?!
@@combinecommando001 oh no, I worded it wrong. I meant if you choose to side with the hotel and off Roy and his friends, Herbert gets to live and you can kill tenpenny during, _"YOU GOTTA SHOOT EM' IN THE HEAD"_ quest lol.
Crazy how much detail was poured in this game, considering it came in 2008, really gotta appreciate Fallout 3, truly genre-defining and a masterpiece for it's time. Such a shame a good part of the fandom got psyop into hating this game nowadays, it still did a lot of things right despite it's flaws.
I think it's because people look at it and go "Can't roleplay properly, so it bad! >:(" while ignoring that you can't roleplay properly in ANY roleplaying video game. Why? Because you're forced to choose between a FINITE amount of choices that were made by the devs. You can't choose what you're actually gonna say, can't befriend with anyone whom you want, can't join bandit/raider factions, etc.
I really do like Ghouls and I feel bad for the prejudice they face but the Tenpenny Tower quest really went out of its way to try and make them look bad.
Underworld does enough to make the Ghouls look good. Tenpenny Tower is actually rather refreshing because it shows all of the hatred boiling to the surface and the kind of poison it is for both sides. There are no good guys in that story, only winners and losers.
Nope you can't, but you can get a nice bonus for this. *"After repairing Sawbones' malfunction and receiving medical treatment, an effect called "Sawbones' Precision" will appear in the Pip-Boy, giving the Lone Wanderer +2 Endurance and +2 Perception. The effect lasts for about three in-game hours, and it can be gained again by receiving healing from Sawbones."*
This video is super educational. I always wanted to take the time to make one that shows some obscure locations and interactions that few people see. I have some good ones in mind id love to hear peoples thoughts and im sure there are some things that are hidden and even cooler
I know fallout 3 was weak in its storyline and gameplay, but it’s little hidden details like this that i missed makes me think, maybe there was a lot more we all missed in this game and need to go back and find them all.
I sure got spoiled by vanilla FO3 graphics enough thst seeing HD mods used here sure feels alien. Nicely done mods, still, but you get what I mean. Anywho, watching this while awaiting more stuff from Star Marshal's FO3 walkthrough.
I'm honestly wondering if the Enclave would have brought the Vault 101 people into their group. I mean why not? They could use the numbers and would like that the vault dwellers have been unaffected by the radiation so would seem pure to them.
The hilarious part of the ghoul encounters is the fact that Roy isn't even a ghoul. He's a Smooth-skin with a ghoul mask. Actually, a very mentally disturbed individual who sleeps with his ghoul woman. Obviously she knows the truth. But loves him anyway, so she plays along.
When thinking from a more *precise* view, I'd say it's half and half. Tempenny is right about the ghouls being dangerous, remember, both of Roy's friends follow him regardless of his morality, but he's wrong about ghouls in general. Roy is right about tempenny being a bigot, including the ones that we know to be just like him, but he was wrong about *every single one* in the Tower being like a racist. Dashwood is cool.
The Tenpenny Tower is the absolute worst quest in the game, and is one of the worst attempts at a morally grey quest Ive ever seen. I think what really pisses me off is the sheer entitlement Roy exudes about deserving to be let into the tower. It isnt his decision to make and he acts like a huge baby about it. Maybe I'd take pity on him if the Tower residents bigotry wasnt completely justified by the end of the "peaceful" resolution. Its not like Roy doesnt have anywhere to stay either. He can live in Underworld, he can live in Megaton, maybe even Rivet City, or one of the countless landmakes dotting the wasteland that hasnt been inhabited yet, but it isnt about finding somewhere to live. Roy just wants to take Tenpenny Tower away from those who harbor (justified) resentment towards him. I really dont know what Bethesda was thinking. The Pitt was a much better attempt at a morally grey choice.
@@HHindsight Tenpenny is literally an immigrant from the U.K. As in he's just some rich asshole who paid for people to bring him to America and he set up shop in that tower.
I view this in a different way: there is no perfect solution, both sides being bad, the question being which side you support. Compared to Boulder City showdown, the peaceful option doesnt work, meaning players have to pick a side based on their personal beliefs. Its why Hard Luck Blues is a good moral quest. However in the Pitt, you either side with the slavers or the naiive abolisionists. I disagree with this being a tough moral decision.
Just started a new play through while I watch this video on a separate monitor. Love your content if anyone knows is there is a unique power fist and if so where?
@@alasdairmackintosh in the large building (2nd floor?) with smokestacks, yes- but be warned this is also merc and random encounter spawn, be weary of feral ghouls inside
Oh you tippers are beyond ridiculous, crying that the price of your meals will go up if ... gawd forbid, workers get payed a fair wage !!! and not rely on your charity !!! well guess what, me having to pay a set amount of tip already increases my BILL !!!
@@dindu1613 Why would it be satire ? did i misread your comment ? ... anyways, im glad it made u laugh, laughing makes you fat, enjoy your diabetes bwahahahaha
@@dindu1613tipping isn't a thing outside of America. And the service is still good. Who would like a bunch of poor servers groveling and sucking up to you just to make their money. Pathetic. Maybe you should try it some time.
i have never seen the group of ghouls go towards the tempenny tower because i use a mod for real and peaceful coexistence between humans and ghouls in that tower.
Avoid Tenpenny quest is the best course of action better live them be it’s suspicious in the first place why gouls wanted so bad that tower , build your own damn tower it’s nothing extraordinary about it to want it so bad gouls living for hundreds years could’ve build their own civilization in wasteland around that tower but it’s just don’t make sense they way the gouls are made in this game series’s being ages alive I’m sure you have quite a bit experience about everything but seems like it’s not the case here
Bc you are playing on low graphics and PC players can go on much higher graphics by base I was so surprised how much better fallout new Vegas looked the first time I booted it up on PC compared to 360
Still better than 4, 76, and that Diablo-esque Brotherhood of Steel game. Regardless, they really should have marketed the game as a big spin-off separate from the Western Seaboard saga of 1 and 2 (and New Vegas later on), which it really is.
@@tubensalat1453 If you're doing it as a career, sure. If you don't care about demonetization, you can say a shocking amount of obscenities, lies, slander, conspiracies, etc before Google puts their foot down. Hell, usually someone will sue you before you get banned.
I always find it funny that every single one of these videos (that multiple channels make btw, your videos are nothing original) are almost always padded out by boring dialogue. Every. Single. Time. So lazy
@@czarnakoza9697 Are NV fans typically trans? I don't get the insult. 3 seems more likely to have more trans fans due to the lack of masculinity associated with the Lone Wanderer, perfect for the biologically confused wastelander.
The problem is a lot of times Officer Kendall gets killed by Radroaches which is a great way to make sure he doesn’t follow me.
Lol
How the hell does a security guard in literal security armor die to some roach body slamming him?
@@Blue_Mr_Gutsy
Because Fallout Logic says Security Armor is like any other clothing in the game it doesn’t offer any protection.
@@robertdeffenbaugh9004 so in that case literally anything is practically a pair of briefs
@@Blue_Mr_Gutsy
Yeah.
The Tempenny Tower quest is so jacked up lol, I know players usually avoid that quest because of karma loss, and Three Dog scolding you about Roy, never knowing the true side of the story.
What's crazy about helping the ghouls get in, is that even after you convinced everyone to let them in diplomatically, Roy double crosses everyone.
There was nothing righteous or innocent about him at all.
Too bad there wasn't an option to go to Three Dog and correct him, hearing a apology on GNR.
Other than that, I only do the quest for the caps, by ending Roy and Co.
assassinating roy is the only moral option in hindsight.
I always give Roy the john lennon special
Ed:_TL;DR
Don't care here to nuke
@@kriegcore indeed
@@monumentalsin3552 lol
Goddamn, that “filthy fucking ghoul” line is probably the most brutal thing I’ve ever seen in Fallout 3z
and it's deserved too
Satisfying
which one?
@@maestrofeli4259after the butch and Kendall interaction
2:54 and that's one of the many reasons to off Roy at the gates
Lol
@@VongolaXZax his pov pre and post mortem will be pearly gates
I have well over 1k hours in this game and there are STILL odds bit and peices I didn't know. What a game.
Finally got around to starting my first playthorugh. Such a great game with so much charm.
The kind of game you can really become sucked into.
Ghouls start attacking
"Help me!" *takes out weapon and charges player*
Classic Bethesda
Karma is crazy.
Gives water bottles to the homeless guy.
*Instant karma boost*
Isnt he just asking his friends to help him: "Help me" (to beat this smoothskin to death). The obsidian meatriding is crazy.
@@VongolaXZax Is it not a good deed to give water to the thirsty. You also gain karma in new vegas for giving medical supplies to julie farkas. Whats the point here?
Where
Deep down that kid knew the teddy bear wasn't his.
I knew you could ask Manya who's in charge in Megaton and get different responses if both Moriarty and Simms are alive, if one or the other is alive, or if both of them are dead. But I had no clue you could literally usurp Simms as sheriff and have the other characters recognize you.
Fallout never fails to impress me event after all those playtroughs there is stil so much I dont know .
It's always a good weekend, when AGC uploads a Fallout 3 video.
Fallout 3 is goated.
DAS WHA I TALKING ABOUT DAS I TALKING ABOUT BABY
DA GOAT
DA GOAT
One of my favourite games
One of the OGs such a classic
2024 I still play it once in a while
@meeoo7856AYE FR DOE BRUH DAS DA GOAT DOE FR DOE
Hold on, not only did Roy kill the tenpenny residents after you told them everything will be fine when the ghouls came in, but he also sent messages telling other Ghouls to kill humans who know about the tower?
The fauck you mean I lose karma if I kill him after realizing this?!
Both sides suck
Really wanted to settle most conflicts peacefully, that included the Tenpenny quest. Very disappointed to know that it ends in violence either way.
I know, but look at the bright side, at least Herbet gets to live and we take out tenpenny anyways, if you side with the hotel.
War, war never changes
@@VongolaXZax No, he gets killed along with the rest of them.
@@combinecommando001 oh no, I worded it wrong.
I meant if you choose to side with the hotel and off Roy and his friends, Herbert gets to live and you can kill tenpenny during, _"YOU GOTTA SHOOT EM' IN THE HEAD"_ quest lol.
@@VongolaXZax oh, my bad then.
Crazy how much detail was poured in this game, considering it came in 2008, really gotta appreciate Fallout 3, truly genre-defining and a masterpiece for it's time.
Such a shame a good part of the fandom got psyop into hating this game nowadays, it still did a lot of things right despite it's flaws.
I think it's because people look at it and go "Can't roleplay properly, so it bad! >:(" while ignoring that you can't roleplay properly in ANY roleplaying video game. Why? Because you're forced to choose between a FINITE amount of choices that were made by the devs. You can't choose what you're actually gonna say, can't befriend with anyone whom you want, can't join bandit/raider factions, etc.
I really do like Ghouls and I feel bad for the prejudice they face but the Tenpenny Tower quest really went out of its way to try and make them look bad.
It shows that just because someone is the underdog it doesnt mean that they are good
Agreed
Underworld does enough to make the Ghouls look good. Tenpenny Tower is actually rather refreshing because it shows all of the hatred boiling to the surface and the kind of poison it is for both sides. There are no good guys in that story, only winners and losers.
8:15 can't you remove the limiter causing him to rampage through the citadel?
If I remember correctly, you can, I'll have to go check
Nope you can't, but you can get a nice bonus for this.
*"After repairing Sawbones' malfunction and receiving medical treatment, an effect called "Sawbones' Precision" will appear in the Pip-Boy, giving the Lone Wanderer +2 Endurance and +2 Perception. The effect lasts for about three in-game hours, and it can be gained again by receiving healing from Sawbones."*
Looking at how heavily armed the Brotherhood is. It would be a pretty damn short rampage.
@@aleksandrasmiksenas317I’m dead 💀 😂 But not from Saw bones lol 🤣🤣🤣
Nah, that's Cerberus in the Ghoul town of Underworld.
My wife left me
Ghoul mask is so OP
That robot sort circuit jhonny number 5 he reminds me of a little bit
Glad I never trusted those damn zombies
Nice. I knew only about sherif's duster, Crimson + Forty and Trouble on the Homefront. Everything else is news to me.
Such an amazing game!
Fallout never dies
This video is super educational. I always wanted to take the time to make one that shows some obscure locations and interactions that few people see. I have some good ones in mind id love to hear peoples thoughts and im sure there are some things that are hidden and even cooler
Have you ever checked out andale? There's an entire unmarked quest there that nobody really talks about.
@@Sketch-Motion yeah the cannibal family it's a good one
I know fallout 3 was weak in its storyline and gameplay, but it’s little hidden details like this that i missed makes me think, maybe there was a lot more we all missed in this game and need to go back and find them all.
I've never thought fo3 had a weak storyline. Although I do play with the DLCs.
I sure got spoiled by vanilla FO3 graphics enough thst seeing HD mods used here sure feels alien. Nicely done mods, still, but you get what I mean.
Anywho, watching this while awaiting more stuff from Star Marshal's FO3 walkthrough.
Hi man, hope you're doing well.
Compare the posibilities in this antro alone to Skyrim's cart.
I'm honestly wondering if the Enclave would have brought the Vault 101 people into their group. I mean why not? They could use the numbers and would like that the vault dwellers have been unaffected by the radiation so would seem pure to them.
The hilarious part of the ghoul encounters is the fact that Roy isn't even a ghoul. He's a Smooth-skin with a ghoul mask. Actually, a very mentally disturbed individual who sleeps with his ghoul woman. Obviously she knows the truth. But loves him anyway, so she plays along.
Give enb, and enb pref
Man I need to mod Falliut 3 again and have some fun
Like for Johnny's guitar 😂
Nice video, thank you
Damn I didn’t know that about Roy. Changed everything, I’ll probably kill him every play through now.
What mods are you using
This is random but I’m just gonna say it, tempeny is in the right and the ghouls are in wrong
When thinking from a more *precise* view, I'd say it's half and half.
Tempenny is right about the ghouls being dangerous, remember, both of Roy's friends follow him regardless of his morality, but he's wrong about ghouls in general.
Roy is right about tempenny being a bigot, including the ones that we know to be just like him, but he was wrong about *every single one* in the Tower being like a racist.
Dashwood is cool.
@@VongolaXZaxyeah but even if you help roy settle in with the humans they just fucking kill everyone
@@sgopzurpu6430 I know, Roy became what he always hated.
@@VongolaXZax im pretty sure he always was and was just using us the whole time
@@sgopzurpu6430 oh yeah, I know!
I meant way before we met Roy, he became that a long time ago.
the angry ghoul and brother gerard are the same ghoul missed that in the video.
Is that an ENB? Anyone knows how to make my FO3 look like that?
The Tenpenny Tower is the absolute worst quest in the game, and is one of the worst attempts at a morally grey quest Ive ever seen.
I think what really pisses me off is the sheer entitlement Roy exudes about deserving to be let into the tower. It isnt his decision to make and he acts like a huge baby about it.
Maybe I'd take pity on him if the Tower residents bigotry wasnt completely justified by the end of the "peaceful" resolution.
Its not like Roy doesnt have anywhere to stay either. He can live in Underworld, he can live in Megaton, maybe even Rivet City, or one of the countless landmakes dotting the wasteland that hasnt been inhabited yet, but it isnt about finding somewhere to live. Roy just wants to take Tenpenny Tower away from those who harbor (justified) resentment towards him.
I really dont know what Bethesda was thinking. The Pitt was a much better attempt at a morally grey choice.
it was a commentary on modern day mass migration...
@@HHindsight Tenpenny is literally an immigrant from the U.K. As in he's just some rich asshole who paid for people to bring him to America and he set up shop in that tower.
I view this in a different way: there is no perfect solution, both sides being bad, the question being which side you support. Compared to Boulder City showdown, the peaceful option doesnt work, meaning players have to pick a side based on their personal beliefs. Its why Hard Luck Blues is a good moral quest.
However in the Pitt, you either side with the slavers or the naiive abolisionists. I disagree with this being a tough moral decision.
Just started a new play through while I watch this video on a separate monitor. Love your content if anyone knows is there is a unique power fist and if so where?
"Fisto" at the MDPL 13 powerstation northwest of minefield.
@@alasdairmackintosh in the large building (2nd floor?) with smokestacks, yes- but be warned this is also merc and random encounter spawn, be weary of feral ghouls inside
What did Todd mean with the Ghouls at the tower?
👍 Gj, some stuff I didn't know.
I've seen a lot of theres fallout 3 videos recently do people know about the remastered version and more than what they are letting on?
Fo3 needs a remaster
The tenpenny gouls remind me of the non tippers in the real world. Always with excuses for violence and no work ethic.
Oh you tippers are beyond ridiculous, crying that the price of your meals will go up if ... gawd forbid, workers get payed a fair wage !!! and not rely on your charity !!! well guess what, me having to pay a set amount of tip already increases my BILL !!!
@@silentfart5941 I can't tell if this is satire. Lol Either way it made me laugh.
@@dindu1613 Why would it be satire ? did i misread your comment ? ... anyways, im glad it made u laugh, laughing makes you fat, enjoy your diabetes bwahahahaha
@@dindu1613 Best kind of satire? Lol
@@dindu1613tipping isn't a thing outside of America. And the service is still good. Who would like a bunch of poor servers groveling and sucking up to you just to make their money. Pathetic. Maybe you should try it some time.
Sounds like kill Kendal is the moral choice
Machete is one of our best girls at Lolipopz.
I love this game so much. ❤
Hello how are you
What if you play as a ghoul?
Great game most def
graphics mod?
i have never seen the group of ghouls go towards the tempenny tower because i use a mod for real and peaceful coexistence between humans and ghouls in that tower.
Avoid Tenpenny quest is the best course of action better live them be it’s suspicious in the first place why gouls wanted so bad that tower , build your own damn tower it’s nothing extraordinary about it to want it so bad gouls living for hundreds years could’ve build their own civilization in wasteland around that tower but it’s just don’t make sense they way the gouls are made in this game series’s being ages alive I’m sure you have quite a bit experience about everything but seems like it’s not the case here
Do more
tenpenny encounter sounds like black ppl
Same thing I said, pretty sure ghouls are a metaphor to black people in America? Or it works at least
Pretty sure it can be for any group of segregated people.
My fo3 looks completely different even different people skin color what
Mods.
Why would you want to live with a kid in a mine?
It's an alternate player home in the Point Lookout DLC.
A safe place to stash your junk and a 10 year old to guard it all.
Are you housing a mod. Why do the graphics look different on your fallout 3 compared to my Xbox 360 version
Bc you are playing on low graphics and PC players can go on much higher graphics by base I was so surprised how much better fallout new Vegas looked the first time I booted it up on PC compared to 360
If you're a black character amata will leave with you, as she lives BBC.
The poor or mediocre quality of FO3’s writing is apparent even in these details.
The world building is still fun
Still better than 4, 76, and that Diablo-esque Brotherhood of Steel game. Regardless, they really should have marketed the game as a big spin-off separate from the Western Seaboard saga of 1 and 2 (and New Vegas later on), which it really is.
For sure. What a shitty ass game. Can't believe there's idiots out there who unironically like it. Lol.
L opinion
@@mace5725The fuck does that mean?
Why do tempenny tower ghoul situation reminds me of BLM....
That's a ai voice right?
Imagine censoring yourself in 2023
yt isn't the best place for unrestricted speech.
@@tubensalat1453 If you're doing it as a career, sure. If you don't care about demonetization, you can say a shocking amount of obscenities, lies, slander, conspiracies, etc before Google puts their foot down. Hell, usually someone will sue you before you get banned.
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I always find it funny that every single one of these videos (that multiple channels make btw, your videos are nothing original) are almost always padded out by boring dialogue. Every. Single. Time. So lazy
bro malding he explains how to get obscure random factiods about fallout 3
Bro is mad for no reason. Brother go touch grass.
People play these games for the dialogue. People watch these videos for the dialogue.
I played all the original 3rd person fallout games... these suck balls now.
Machete is a post Apocalyptic Police Explorer.
No amount of details save this terrible game from it's mediocrity. NV for the win!
I bet you wear transgender socks when you play nv
@@HHindsight I would never support such degeneracy, though such an argument is irrelevant.
least trans nv fan:
@@czarnakoza9697 Are NV fans typically trans? I don't get the insult. 3 seems more likely to have more trans fans due to the lack of masculinity associated with the Lone Wanderer, perfect for the biologically confused wastelander.