NYMag MESSED Up (but so did Andrew Huberman)
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2024
- Andrew Huberman was recently on the cover of New York Magazine for a bulls*** article about what a toxic man he is. And while the article did not display a whole lot of journalistic integrity, it did seem to reveal some genuinely messed up behavior by Andrew that his defenders won't acknowledge.
This quality of journalism was once reserved for supermarket checkout lines.
As someone that generally appreciates your reviews I found your critique of the article to be a bit incomplete as there were other keys points made in the article that you don’t reference:
The article described other quotes from people who had once been friends with Huberman or had planned to potentially work with him. In both situations they described how Huberman would set plans that required significant investment or in one case getting certified for an activity, only to have him cancel at the last minute. In other example he would make plans with a friend and then disappear for hours leaving them at his house. With regard to the woman “Sarah” the article mentioned how he routinely yelled at her and seemed at times unable to get past the fact that she had chosen to have children with someone else prior to meeting him. It wasn’t just women who claimed he had an anger problem but also men who detailed how Huberman would at times become fixated and enraged over things that didn’t seem justifiable. While you mention the misrepresentation of feminism, I think the article was attempting to show and detail a pattern where he was specifically trying to manipulate women with strengths in either their careers or aesthetics in order to dominate and control them. There was even an occurrence where he tried to manipulate a story on his podcast because a person who he had stood up professionally had decided not to continue a professional relationship with him and he wanted to represent it as a limitation of them and not his actions.
While I really understand the article was long I think these details painted a more full picture of a person who manipulated in more than just romantic situations and rounds out the possibility of his character. I didn’t get that from listening to your assessment.
All the best though.
Good points! Most often when people are guilty of misconduct they become angry and lash out for crazy stuff. Red flag.
Really appreciate your comment, it is very balanced.
I used to listen to Huberman and little things he would say piqued my curiousity. Random phrases that gave me pause. He had mentioned a woman he used to date and that they kept in touch. I found the dynamic he described very interesting. I always wonder why people feel the need to mention details like that and did a little search on his current partner and was surprised he was not coupled up and childless at his age, since he appears so virile. Then maybe six months later the New York Times article debuted and it really did not surprise me. Even if there is some exaggeration it aligned with something I kept picking up on.
In highschool I had a young male math teacher who was married. He looked squeaky clean. He had a photo of his wife on his desk. He was also the girls' volleyball coach. I thought he was cute until he attempted to seduce me. He knew I was failing the class, which I had transferred into because I needed remedial algebra. While I looked like a wild child, very punk, I was not into sleeping around. I tried to get out of his class without a reason but since this would be the 2nd class change, the vice principal kept grilling me. Finally I broke down and admitted he had had rubbed his hand on my knee and said he liked my fishnet stockings. She let me change classes that day. Within a few weeks he was fired because he had been sleeping with one of the girls from the volleyball team.
In another instance, when I was 13, I knew there was something off about the head Pastor at our church. I told my Mom and she got really upset and said "you just don't want to go to church." She wasn't wrong. However, within a month they had to fire him for stealing funds. It was a big scandal in our little community.
Point of those stories, and more I could tell, I end up noticing things whether I want to or not, now.
I see from most of the comments on this page that intuition is probably unwelcome but little things Andrew Huberman said along the way pinged an uneasiness inside of me. I did not take notes and do not have the stomach to listen to him now. I listened to at least 30 of his podcasts until deciding it was time for a break, for various reasons. I don't buy into guru worship to begin with and he seemed quite extreme on his stances and health preferences.
is it my laptop's problem or is this video's resolution too hight :
1080P seems smooth but sometimes I see laggy frames
720P seems very laggy for me
what is going on with all the jump cuts and zoom cuts in this video? Its almost impossible to watch, had to hide the window and just listen to it
I see exactly what you're talking about, and I'm having a hard time letting it bother me.
👆 Needed for balance, sorry
It always happens on her videos, she has something weird with her camera as well a lot of hitching in the video as well
@@tudalex 🥴 never noticed til now since I typically just listen
I also just let it play in the background.
-It is sort of distracting.
I don't think we should be discussing private misbehavior of private individuals. He's not a Biden or a Trump, we really shouldn't be allowed to know that he's cheating on his six girlfriends with each other! (or whatever the accusation is!)
I do share a mouse room at the animal facility with HUbermann. The guy is smart, unquestionably, but he is (if someone cares) no Nobel prize material, he is bright enough to be a tenured track professor at Stanford, so he knows which boxes to check and when, but no the top of research on any area, he works on neurology of vision… He as most reserachers know that one scientific article is almost always wrong about anything, and knowledge is built on dozens or hundreds pieces of evidence pushing on the same direction. I see him on every podcast citing this or that article and giving medical advise from those, and that’s wrong. Unlike Joe Rogan who has no idea what evidence is, or couldnt even understand what is wrriten in an article, Hubermann knows, yet he doest what ROgan does, He gets a single piece of evidence and provides medical advice out of it!, while Rogan gets comments from someone one the street and does the same. But only one of the two knows that’s actually wrong…
it’s so messed up that they make you guys share a room and you don’t even get a human sized room
Judging by your lack of grammar skills, I seriously doubt you work with Hubermann
@@Iron-and-strings Thought the same exact thing.
If you’re not coldplunging while staring at the sun five hours a day, you WILL not achieve the best version of you.
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Thanks for the summary
Happy to see you break this down. I caught this tangentially on Reddit but couldn’t be bothered to dig into it despite my curiosity.
I have this thing about 'gurus' who take a expert stances on things outside of their field. Huberman is a nureoscientist....that is so far from being a life coach or a fitness expert or a nutritionist or a psychologist,...all of which require their own set of licences and certifications. Like...this guy sells supplements. Wtf.
He has major in psychology. The amount of fitness he does and the depths of his knowledge puts him way above 90% of fitness trainers and life coaching degrees and licensing is not something that this country requires for you to be a life coach 😆
This is classic behavior of sex addiction. If he’s any kind of self aware he will seek help, if not, we got a potential sociopath on our hands.
Was going to say the exact same thing.
@@kristicarlson8635Why do you guys think these stories are true
I don't understand why people wrap themselves around one person and begin to idolize them the same as jay shetty. Always be a little bit skeptical these people on the internet
I don’t understand why people instantly believe a random hit piece written by a terrible journalist 😂
@@marcusmaire8197 not instantly believing anything. Always skeptical
@@victorybeginsinthegarden That’s fair. But a lot of people are just believing this very questionable journalist.
Your audio is good, your videocameras high quality (even multiple angles). However there seems to be something wrong with your fps. Did you chose wrong export settings? Also the lighting of this episode can be better and there is some improvement possible on the background. Well meant criticism! Keep it up
In all my years I don’t think I’ve known of someone using people like this.
Good report, thanks!
Very well said Carly! thanks
Yeah I used to see his videos pop up all the time, but never clicked on em because I got bad vibes.
CPR. Good piece. I disagree with your reading anything from this article. It is very clear that this “article” is only to attack Hubermann(sp?). Once that is evident every situation/fact/suspician proffered up by the article is, in my opinion, not at all factual. It simply cannot be taken as such for the reason that it is clear it is a hit piece.
I would not rule out Hubermann(sp again?) being a weirdo or creep, or sociopath, etc.
I would attack the article.
To my mind this article is a peripheral symptom to the crumbling of society and the economy. What do you think of the article from that context, forgetting all about Hubermann ?
Have you ever heard of Wilt Chamberlain or Wade Boggs?
Or sailors?
This is hilarious
He is one bad dude
Thank you, Carly!
I’d rather hear you tell it than slog through the article
Why do people instantly believe a hit piece article
Our favourite ray of sunshine
While I don't think it needed to be a cover story, I also do get why he's there (very popular/ influential).
His apologies were weird... very unnatural-sounding reverse psychology
Extremely manipulative
Absolute weirdo level
Reliably solid take, seeing past the surface BS to the actual problems.
Also as others have said, constructive criticism on production quality, everything's pretty good but the choppy framerate kills it. Looks like dropped frames on capture. Probably something as simple as doubling the RAM in the capture rig would fix it.
Maybe that's where EightSleep get's the name
Never heard of him. And I decided to keep it that way. It’s about improving my life.
His podcast is really good. Very long. Sometimes it helps my insomniac friends fall asleep. True story.
He has good guests. Good questions.
the lesson for everyone is always be aware of people who claim and seem to understand you like nobody else, without making any criticism or asking any questions that raise doubts and are good listeners. most likely, you met a very narcissistic, manipulative, and angry to the bone devil who wants to control you for fun. but nothing compares to Daniel Day Lewis who left his girlfriend in the morning and got married in the evening with another lady, while his girlfriend living in their apartment found out from the media after that!
Given the topic and the relationship between the author and subject, this would have been more appropriate as a way-too-long Facebook post instead of a “journalistic article”
You need an other chair. That chair is to big for you and swivels. Smaller chair will bring out your present more on camera.
personal life vs. professional life
imho this entire article is completely irrelevant to the sound advice he gives on his podcast
I don't know....what makes you think something this deep in emotional manipulation isn't also doing it to his audience? It's like Jordan Peterson part 2.
@@basicallymid lol what?
not totally sure what you mean by this, but jbp has helped countless of my friends climb out of their rut…
you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Great video looking at the Culture War aspects of the NY Magazine hit piece on Huberman. But I have to disagree with Carly when she says that Feminism is about choice. I used to believe that fervently, but I started to Red Pill in 2014 when I became aware of the nuttiness coming out of Gender Studies departments - and these departments are products of feminism. They called me an "assimilationist" gay man because I wasn't overtly feminine. And they led the charge to "Smash the Gender Binary." Watching the hostility on display I flashed back to all the hate directed at housewives back in the 60's and 70's. I had to reluctantly agree that Feminism isn't about women's welfare - Most Feminists champion men in women's dressing rooms, as long as those men "don't identify as male," and they champion "Gender affirming care" for teenage girls. Yikes. Feminism is a Marxist style ideology that seeks to vilify the conventional, as that will help bring about The Revolution. - To support the freedom to choose we need to be Individualists, not Feminists.
You may want to did a little deeper into teh facts behind the New York piece. The women who is the main protagonist in the New York Mag piece is being investigated by the DOJ and that, among other factors, was the reason Huberman ended teh relationship.
You sound like you're paid by Huberman or his lawyer/PR with your 'whataboutism'. The issue is about a public health expert potentially misrepresenting himself compromising his veracity and breaking public trust. Also, I understand the protagonist that you refer to was not at the company during the time the issue with the DOJ came up.
@@rhondasolomon200Why are you assuming things in the article are true to begin with?
It’s more nuanced than one might catch, esp. if you’re a male. You either acknowledge that women in this country are systemically burdened by sexism, patriarchy and misogyny or you don’t (you’re free to have blind spots…). Andrew Huberman interviewed Dr. Sarah Gottfried about women’s health and there was a particularly interesting part of the conversation where she’s sharing about a specific negative outcome for women’s health. He asks why she thinks this is and she answers - “patriarchy.” He acknowledges is, no follow up questions. He is a scientist and researcher. He knows good and well what women in this country face. The evidence is all over the research. He may make helpful podcasts but he’s also part of the problem. Women gossip to keep each other safe. People who don’t understand this either are either living in a male body that could not possibly comprehend what it’s like to live with this level of feeling unsafe, or have internalized misogyny that also blocks you from acknowledging this. Women are extremely unsafe in this country and this is constantly made invisible. Huberman is part of the problem and any time women know this about men in power, it should make headlines. He admits he’s a long time advocate for being in therapy - time for narcissism recovery, Huberman.
I agree on your analysis on Huberman, I really thought too that he was an ethical man
"Feminism is about choice" ❤❤❤
Only in theory, for a tiny minority
no one mentions that “Sarah” is actually a chef of sorts. that seems relevant. A chef wants to cook for her boyfriend, totally weird, right?
I am not sure I have watched dating episode of Huberman lab, but medical ones that do not support big pharma (which is the only reason people are talking about this) are really great
Go girl!
Had to stop at 'feels especially violating'
Brilliant journalistic reporting they have done there, on all of those most important, none of our fucking business issues
If he is lying to the women he is sleeping with, he still seems credible to the millions he’s preaching to?
I don’t think anyone looked to him for advice on human relationships. He gives us scientific research and data
You must have a lot of fun making all those ridiculous faces for your thumbnails
Bye, Andrew. I did like your talks and opinion on drinking alcohol …
Dog fretting lol It is hard to make personal judgements this way and not pleasant either. OTOH neuroscience is sort of a scammy 'science' that is akin to evolutionary psychiatry and some of the things he promotes are questionable. At the end of the day you should research into any lifestyle changes directly yourself to try to confirm them as much as possible especially if they are costly or time consuming.
please dont do the random edits, it's incredibly off-putting
Who says what? That they rather at 40 plus, stop acting like an episode of "Sex in the City".... because we can't always be out and about and remain the same. They said I turned different too when I had a stable man. They were all pissed off, i learned to canoe, and go on long hikes and camp all summer. That made me such a different person, my asinine former "friends" just couldn't handle it. Wow...!
Finally a balanced view...
He has been honest about some of his life challenges, but common, look at the guy, I'm pretty sure he has a lot of female admirers and he is only human
Still enjoy your content!!
I always felt like Huberman was a creep and a loser and a really sketchy guy. My roommate would watch his videos and it really, REALLY rubbed me the wrong way. Not at all surprised that he was doing deeply sketchy and awful stuff in his personal life.
Don’t really get why he’s getting all this defense from butthurt internet males. Guess everyone is way, way too sensitive. Guess what? If you give endless advice online to strangers and make yourself a public person, you open yourself up to public criticism like this.
Who’s getting butthurt cause the article is a bunch of butthurt women.
I guess you apparently believe every article you read on the internet.😂😂 Goofy
and that's people, it is why you never should praise a person completely. As a podcast maker and scientist it's an incredible person, but no one is perfect and I don't see anything crazy on what's being told, he is just a human with some pitfalls as any of us...come on, he haven't killed or injured anyone.
I'll never understand how people have the energy to have multiple "partners" at the same time. Having one SO alone can be exhausting at times...
I'm by no means a fan of his and I get that he's semi famous, but making a long cover story/hit piece written by an ex seems a bit much. IMO this is like the feminist version of what the redpill crowd does when they lambaste promiscuous women. If these allegations are all true, pretty gross behavior, I just dont really understand what the point of this all is other than some form of revenge.
I think most people have been cheated on at some point, it sucks but making a big scene out of it isn't something I can get behind.
The Huberman story says as much about women as about Huberman
This statement says as much about you as it does about this story
@@GYI5UI can fit you in Thursday evening, hon
My place.
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Living his best life. Go Huberman!
The sad reality of now habitual hit pieces have now become, and their popularity, as if people didn’t have anything better to get angry about.
This would have been better if it had either explored his personal or his professional life, as both are not mutually exclusive and totally irrelevant to each other. Firstly - if the personal lives of all men and women were put into the public eye, everyone would have something in their closet. Secondly - the presenter states the ‘first’ time Sarah discovered Andrew had (allegedly) cheated on her. Well, no sympathy there. If you don’t value yourself to learn from your lessons, you are doomed to repeat them, and this time you are actively authorising it. Thirdly - Stanford has actually come out officially in support of Andrew and his work.
The latter therefore means that this whole piece and following click bait coverage, is just about: 1) a woman anger about having by allowed an individual to allegedly cheat on her repeatedly! And 2) a bunch of disgruntled women that have just realised they let themselves get taken in. This can be hard for any person and especially those who see themselves as independent boss women.
Who cares? Isn't that his personal life
Like Carly said- if he lies and cheats on the women around him, couldn’t he also be lying and cheating his audience?
Who cares?? He's a neuroscientist giving life coaching advice. It's ridiculous to think a con man only has one con. Guess what buddy, his audience is the other one lol.
@@SidewaysWalker What kind of logic is that?
@@SidewaysWalkerThe journalist who made the article is more likely to be lying than Huberman
3:33 Andrew = Tate 😮
Im gonna go to the opposite end of this and say I personally think its fine (in a sense). Im a muslim and in islam its fine to marry multiple women as long ss you treat them all equally(if one lives in a penthouse, the other cant live in an apartment and whatever). My only issue with this is that he didnt tell the others about it. In islam you can't marry multiple women and not ask for permission first. I wouldnt personally want to be with multiple women, but I dont see an issue if some guy wants that lifestyle. Idk who this girl is(im talking about the channel) but i like her. Ty huberman gossip for bringing me here
It's not that his defenders don't acknowledge his behavior, it's that his defenders recognize shoddy attempts at journalism, if you can even pretend to call it that, it's that the article seems to think we are all entitled to demand entrance into someone's personal life because they are publicly known. Is he good boyfriend material? Likely not. But I"m not listening to him or appreciate his content because of his personal life. And THIS is what people that are using this a fodder for their addiction to being offended seem to miss. The long form intelligent content is something that is clearly missing in droves these days. I don't care that he's a shitty boyfriend, just like I don't care that there are at least 6 women out there that thought so little of themselves that they all joined some sad facebook group for Andrew's jilted lovers. ??!! I have no words.
That is called Psychopathy!!!!!
Literally... not.
Infidelity, in a romantic relationship, is not a crime. Not even for a successful (and well appreciated) man, as Dr Hubermann proves to be.
remember to breathe between the hugs of those nuts there guy🤦🏽♂️
I agree that the same morals should apply to both men and women, but in the modern milieu, a woman may engages in "toxic" behavior and pawn it off to her "trauma" with a plea for understanding.
Never been a Huberman fan
I am definitely not a Huberman fan, but after this hit piece I hope the number of his subscribers quadruples. I imagine those women had 100 warning signs that they ignored. Also,, are we now going to cancel people for all sleezy behaviour?
A big myth/misunderstanding in this whole thing is people thinking that Huberman is somehow hypocritical by not being an ethical role model; he never claimed to be, and in interviews he has openly discussed his messed up childhood and brushes with the law before he straightened himself out and became a scientist. Dude has issues. Dude ADMITS he has issues. Women flock to him and then, surprise! He's got issues and they are SO upset that he has issues!
This.
well he does seem very energetic for his age lol...
Podcasts are marketing and marketing is manipulation. I think he's providing valuable information and I have enjoyed listening to his podcast but he's clearly manipulating these women and I just don't see how that stops at just one area of his life.
What's weird is all the podcasts get the same people and talk about the same things. Like Diary of a CEO, Huberman, Rogan, Dax will all get the same guests. Probably not missing much if I dont listen to him anymore.
Probably every area except his pets...
It's because when someone tries to gain audience, this person goes on what's known as "the podcast circuit." And this person would appear at all of the podcasts that would invite him or her, which would tend to be about the same group of podcasts that share an ideology / worldview to some degree. It's just how PR works these days.
Why do you assume what this incompetent journalist is telling the truth 😂
@@marcusmaire8197 I guess the question now, is why should I believe you that this journalist is wrong... you didn't bring anything to the convo
@@illumina-t-info The journalist is proven to be very terrible. But if believing every pathetic journalist is your thing. You do you
Not a sociopath, we call it a popular guy
why are uou all angry about Andrew Huberman? his dating pattern, are common among women. He's just good at managing it.
They're callo nootropics, not Neurotropics, Einstein
you're overstating it Carly, H has a D and the girls had a V which H needed for his D, end of story
Who the hell cares if he dated multiple women….this is the freaking criticism??? Lol. What nonsense….I date multiple women….it has no relevance to his advice about things like health. Furthermore, any health advice you get from anyone should be checked by more and more research you do plus talking to other experts/gurus.
Sociopath? Every guy I’ve known has dated multiple girls at some point in their life. Don’t need your bs world view to act as if it’s something newsworthy or relevant.
So cringy.
playa playa.