John Deere 318 with a Failing Onan engine, will it run?
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2019
- this is the 3rd video on this john deere 318 that had been given to us by a subscriber so we can video it getting fixed, in this chapter we find the engine to have more damage then expected, so lets see if we can fix it and if it will still run after putting it back together.special thanks to charlie for hooking us up with the snow blower and plow setup.
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I'm 61, been working on small engines all my life. Owned a couple Onans but never worked on them other than changing oil and plugs. I feel like I'm back in shop class in school learning, listening and absorbing all this information, and may I add from an excellent teacher.
I hope one day in the near future when they bring back shop class to schools, kids might get to see some of his videos. I hope they leave in some of his little dirty jokes that he says sometimes.
@@bobcranberries5853Only dirty thing here his is nails. What you talkin' bout Willis?
;)
@kevin balluff I have a cubcadet 104 international and I cannot get it to start. It has previously been running and running great. But it sat for a while and now will not fire. It has fuel, spark, and a fully charged battery. The engine turns over but will not fire up
@@jaredhuffman1973 AIR, NOT a small engine mechanic but on cars that is the next check.
As usual just going to bed in Australia, but now I can sleep easy tonight after worrying about those lost Valve Caps all week!
no thats funny!
All is well mate
I'm in Aus too and lovin this video about the Onan engine. The very expensive Toro ride ons sold locally in the 90's had these engines. Great to restore but not much knowledge locally.
Also he pronounced aluminium wrong haha
@@frankvartuli3697 It depends on where you live. In N America it's pronounced the way Darren did.
Nice work straightening the valve stem. I appreciate you showing us “real world” fixes instead of just throwing money at it and buying new parts. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and time.
Buying a new valve would have been better though. Who knows if it's gonna break and possibly cause more damage later on. Or at least not seal right.
EbonyPope yeah and following that logic just buy a new engine and again one better just buy a new tractor 🚜
@@Alxjeffs Don't be ridiculous. Everything else was working fine. The Valve showed clear damage of overheating unlike the rest of the engine. It's safer to replace it.
@@Alxjeffs Some people's time is actually worth a *lot* more than the opportunity cost of fixing a decades old valve. Believe it or not...
Have seen far too many do that.. throw money at it with a load of new parts, rather than fixing what they have in front of them or running with it as it is. I believe part of the problem, is not everyone has the knowledge nor the patience to fix/repair something.
“Let’s just clean it up and see if we can get it running”. Well that went off the rails pretty severely lol
Kinda like "let's get the seat put on" that led us to where we are now!
John, 'cleaning it up', can be a bit subjective.
morelike OUTA SIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you are one of the better youtubers in my opinion. i dont hear like and subscribe from you every 2 seconds (although that would make a funny imitation). your wholesome and you teach stuff i can use. not like other youtubers that say something needs a fix and than turns the camera off. thank you
Talan Peterson way to call me out... lol. I don’t have a camera and tripod I use my cell phone.
@@enginesandoutdoors3238 better than what i had. i used a phone with the worlds worst camera and it was so bad i had to delete my videos
Talan Peterson even though I can record decent videos I still just say, “now I’m going to clean the carburetor” and skip taking it off and apart.
When your videos are good you don't have to beg.
My thoughts exactly, Talan
Take this restoration all the way mustie they dont build machines likes this anymore and its a beautiful tractor. Plus you have the attachments for it to restore, please fix it all up it deserves it. Thank you for your hardwork sir.
mad max - Yes you are right, they do not build them like they used too. One day I will work on an old Craftsman I have with an Onan.
There could Be a reason they Dont Build Em Like This.
If they built them to last, then they would build themselves out of work.
It is called designed obsolescence.
What you were describing to do with the valve seats is called staking the seats. Something us old timers did a lot, to retain the seats in position. That Deere is going to be like new, when you finish! Great content, Darren, you're the only channel in this category that I subscribe to.
I was a little sad when you moved into your new shop, now a few weeks later, I'm already fully acclimatised. A good lesson to not get too attached to things that are not important.
I had the same feeling about him leaving the old garage. Now I don't think about it because the new place has so much potential for larger projects.
I still miss the home shop, but it felt like we got more out of the new shop since he can't walk 20 feet and relax at home. Although I'm mostly protecting my own laziness.
Your knowledge is impeccable. Love watching and learning from your vids. Cant say enough about how good you are.
Agreed watching him has taught me to be able to service my own mower for the most part. Some things i still have the shop do.
+wrangler.. You will never be able to do it if you don't try. The repair shop is gonna hurt anyway. The worst you can do is make it a lot worse:)
He's not that intelligent there's a lot that he misses out and forgets and you can tell by the editing that he skipped loads out
@@obviouslytwo4u like you know more
Way more than I could have don in the back yard it is really grate to see it running so good glade I gave to you have done it right Dan
cayuse 1234 it's going to look really good with that snow plough on it how's your new one behaving??
Hey cayuse1234 thank you for donating the unit to mustie1. Everyone that watches gets something from the work Dan dose and a little of that is due your way too.
Again thanks, it turned into an interesting project.
very well I need it for the manure pile up back and it dose a grate job on the paddock out back
cayuse 1234 I hope it serves you well for years to come just give it what it needs when it needs it and you will be fine best wishes from scotland
So you're the original owner of this tractor. Mustie sure did a good job getting it all nice and cleaned up. You'd think it was brand new again.
OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!! Fun times in Mustie1's Garage!!!!!!!! Brings back old memories. Can't wait for the snow plow resurrection! Chains and a cab! Yeah, a cab! Build a cab to keep your feet and hands warm.
What started out as basically an inspection turned into a deep service...
Sounds a lot better does that...🇬🇧👍
Another great teaching video, thanks so much these videos have taught me so much, and saved me many dollars
Keep the videos coming Mustie 1.... Steve. A.
Nice way to start my Sunday. A cup of coffee, a couple eggs, some bacon and toast, and a new Mustie video. Thanks for these always a pleasure to watch and perhaps learn something.
Same here
Just coffee and Mustie1 for me
Look forward to my coffee on my porch and a fresh ,Mustie video every sunday morning!
Rewarded for your patience and thorough checkup on this engine, sounds great! What a way to balance a serene New Hampshire scene with an Old Man Puttering sign. Another best!!
Mustie1, I wanted to let you know that watching your videos is one of the main things that calms me down nowadays when I have stress in my life. Thanks for that.
My dad was a master armourer in the Canadian Army, one of his long serving armourers could straighten a bent gun barrel with wooden mallet and a few jigs that he made himself. For 3 weeks before hunting season all he did was true up guns..
That engine sounds really smooth now. You have a really good way of explaining issues with a broken or out of adjustment part. You have good teaching skills.
This series on the 318 has been one of your best, if not thee best. Can’t wait to see her fully assembled. Thanks, as always, for your time and effort in creating another excellent video.
I admire your persistence...running into unexpected problem after problem and doing the right thing by fixing it...also you take it mostly in a light-hearted way (at least on camera...LOL) You're also adept at when to take a few steps back to assess and take a break to try it again later...I know there must be situations when time isn't on your side but still handle it pretty well...all these attributes I see and the versatility you possess to work on anything and everything will always bring me back to your educational videos....along with your good nature, knowledge, and modesty to share with others what you know...keep up the good work!
Thank you Mustie, for the pleasant relief you provide from the constant deluge of political and social storm front. Im in central florida, and right now we're waiting for hurricane Dorian to decide if it's going to kick our but t, or give us a pass. You provide a wonderful distraction, full of humor, useful info, and relaxing mechanical problem solving. Thank you for providing a stress free "safe place"!
Congrats on the new digs, I am a subscriber, and happy to be so!
Excellent video, getting into and correcting the valve train problems was educational and informative. Your videos are the best!
Sounds real sweet. A job well done! Love the clockwork camper at the end - made me smile.
Great video! Hope you take a break to enjoy the jet ski you fixed last year.
I've been watching this channel religiously lately, my father in law is paraplegic and to get him out and doing stuff we fix up any old mowers and trimmers this channel has helped me a lot cheers mate
Cracking job my friend, sounds sweet. Can't wait to see it all back together again, then the refurbishment of the plough before the final assembly. Brilliant video, best channel on UA-cam.
Hands down, best on you tube!
Mustie, You put a lot of hard work into these old machines and in the end you have a nice usable piece of equipment. AWESOME!
Wouldn't be a complete Sunday morning without a Mustie1 video. Great job on this one. It's one thing to rebuild a Brigs or something that you can just order a slew of brand new replacement parts for but an entirely different thing to have to make due with what you have and have to repair or refurbish the parts you have because replacements are not an option. That's what makes the difference between a true master and just a parts changer.
Parts are still readily available for the Onan Performer series engines, just not cheap....
man , this 318 is going to be SWEET ! 👍
Welcome to the wonderful world of Onan. Sold to McGraw Edison around 1970 and then to Cummins. Your engine is either a B43 or B48, both based off the CCk series. I've worked on too many Onans to count. Yes, parts are getting scarce and $$$$ and will only get worse as times go by. The CCK series is mostly indestructible as they have cast iron blocks and a far better bearing system than the B40-series. B&S twins and these B-series engines share the same flaws, poor cooling flow and overheating. The B&S are worse with popping valve seats and after literally half a dozen tries punching in seats, we finally said "Uncle" and installed a Vanguard on a Woods zero turn.
What great series and your explanations are clear and concise and top for YT.
10/4 on the Vanguards. I've got a 19.5 that is a SWEETHEART!
That's a performer, not a BF or BG.
It's always a pleasure watching you overcome problems, and you calm demeanor is... well, um... calming. Thanks for the video!
Nice score on a 318, glad to see you're restoring it cosmetically too. Those are great tractors. Your videos are informative and entertaining, keep up the great work!
Loved the video and series thus far, thank you Mustie!
Love Sunday morning shop class with Mustie1. Thanks for the lessons complete with precision hammer taps.
Onan was bought by Cummins. I work for them as a diesel mechanic and we sell many old onan parts. Some for this engine too. Go to your local Cummins branch and you should be able to get something
Another great video... Instructive, educational and interesting.
I love how thorough you are and explain everything in detail step by step.
Best regards from England.
I never get tired of watching your videos and i have learned a lot from them thanks Mustie
That has to be one of the smoothest 2cyl engines that I've heard yet. Seriously some next level stuff Mustie. Thanks for postin'!
Had an opposed 2-cyl Briggs in the eighties that pretty smoothly.
Pat on the back time Mustie , another superb save from one of the best you tubers around , thanks for the great content she's purring nicely now!!
I can’t wait until every Sunday to sit down and watch a Mustie1 video with a hot cup of coffee , I love all your videos they are like a bubble bath for your brain
Another great video, always time well spent on a Sunday morning. Thanks Sir!
Your an inspiration to all backyard hobbyist (and techs also). I work on all my equipment and your constantly teaching me things I never thought of before. don't ever stop, keep fixing, keep taping, make them as long as you need !!!
Outstanding, as always.
Just think, in three months, you’re gonna need that plow!
and we are going to need a video of it plowing. 🙂
Great video 👍
Thanks Mustie1.
I always love the peace and quiet at the ends.
The man said drum roll please! Ok....that’s better. Aaaaaaaaand the crowd goes WILD, nope nope. The crowd nods in expectant approval of another failing machine revived at the masterful hands of Mustie. You’re an inspiration. Your videos are fun, extremely educational, and now all I do is comb classifieds looking for castoffs wanting to emulate what you do.
Quite simply THE best. Mustie1 has no equal. Loved his garage at home but that new place .......wow !
Yeah he’s alright.
WOW! Sounds really nice now. Great work!
This is a great series. Really looking forward to the hydraulics and accessories.
Thanks for your videos.
i so appreciate watching when something goes wrong, and seeing how you fix it. That's what we all run into -nice to hear your thinking, when that happens.
Love your videos man! Best humor, best kinda work, best fun!
Best Fun is messing around with Mustie's finds.
Glad he refused the TV..TV is the Devil.
Nothing to add to all the positive comments below, but just in case it matters for the "ratings algorithm," throwing you some good vibes. Great as always.
These videos are so satisfying. It really inspires me to go work on something! Thank you
As expected, another fantastic instructional video! Keep up the great work!
Well done! I love how excited you get when it works, lol.
Thank you for the magnetism update!
Wow! Man you really scored and hit the jackpot with this tractor. Thank you for all the uploads, I`ve been on a binge watching them.
Fantastic Sunday with you Mustie1, thanks for all the great tips and bringing us along!
Hey Mustie1, you got space for a little paint booth in your new digs? Lookin at all those Deere skins, it might be handy. As always, great vid.🤙🤘🤙
"Old men watching old man puttering".... I hope if I ever need a "straightened" heart valve the surgeon watched this video, no loctite though, please, not FDA approved!
Haha
hehe
Meat glue.
@@bbrut3332 Tell doctors to please watch before brain surgery also.
Love watching you wrench on engines. Learn a lot. Thanks.
Most likely you won't see this comment, but I just wan't to thank you for inspiring me to get back into repairing old lawn tractors. I had a lot of fun today showing my 6 year old grandson some of the old Sears Suburban tractors I've brought back to life. Thanks for the great videos, I always learn something new!
She definitely sounds much better without all of the valve noise! Great job!
Sounds like an even healthier engine than it was when it came out of that yard.
nice work Mustie...she's gonna be a good snow pusher
Man this is another great series of videos, can't wait for the next one. Just fantastic work and knowledge giving, would love to have that old JD when its finished am sure it would outlive me at 63 and them some. I have learned more about small engines from you than I ever knew by 10 fold. Even tackled a couple small jobs with my mowers I wouldn't have attempted otherwise. Just outstanding stuff. 10 thumbs up,
Thank you sir for letting us hang out with you in your new shop! Looking forward to the next video and of course a proper test drive in some really high grass. "Nothing runs like a deere"... Greetings from a cold and rainy northern Sweden! //Daniel - Kalix, Sweden :)
You are great actor, I almost 😉 believed that engine was heavy.
I've had a 22 hp Briggs and Stratton OHV seize the intake valves at start up after I used old gas that was stored in a metal gas can. Engine ran fine until I tried starting after it had cooled down. Varnish built up around the intake valve guide which held the valve in place. This bent the intake pushrod on one cylinder. Much effort was required to free the valve so it had easy movement. Wonder if something similar happened on your engine? Your engine doesn't use pushrods but restricted valve movement may have contributed to cap falling off.
I am a power equipment mechanic with 35+ years of exp and that was one of the first things that came to mind, seen many small engines in the past have that happen. Don't know if it is as bad now with the newer fuels though.
The valve guide demonstration was very helpful, I wouldn't call it a rant. I've been working on stuff my whole life, and I learn something from all of your videos.
Hi Mustie another great video, takes me back lapping valves in, looking forward to the next instalment, ATB Wayne UK.
you should contact norman from i save tractors. they are making all sorts of parts for the onan engine. 👍
Headers?INTAKES???????????? Carb swap kits?????????????
Why?
Yeah china junk ... onan parts were u go get the part for them .
Damnit Man!
I bruised a finger on the edge of my desk providing the drum roll & you didn't even hear it!
Thanks for taking the time to explain how everything works. Great videos!
I was thinking some mesh in there and then you get the mesh out lol nice job as always. Thanks for bringing us along for the ride
I would've loved to watch you clean and paint this mower!
Using your lathe and an indicator you could have got that valve near perfect. We straighten shafts all the time that way. .001 or better. Best vids on the web. I love the vw content. 65 was my first car.
AWESOME !
Tip - the witness mark from the lapping process is all that's needed for determining contact on the valves - no marker required.
I've been porting and rebuilding heads for 25 years. : )
The marker just makes it easier to determine. Especially for older folks.
The old man puttering sign at the end is priceless....made me smile, great videos keep me coming!
Hmm, a conversion to a two-cylinder diesel would have been awesome, but seeing this engine run again, that's just as good, love me an opposed-twin engine... :D
Great video. Love to see you fixing stuff. but think a moment about your back and get a little crane or something to get those engines in and out.
Agreed. I fudged up my back putting those Onans on my Case tractors. Set up an OH winch on some uni strut and made my life better.
I think I've watched every video you have ever released and so far I have not found a single video boring, your funny, explain everything in easy to understand as you go along explaining each step you are performing, and the reasons why you are doing what your doing, I look forward to your next video
M@x
what makes Mustie unique is when he applies a fix to a perplexing problem that most of us would struggle or give up on....and makes it look so simple in the end...amazing..one of the best i have ever known or watched..
That sounds amazing now! What a difference hey. It's a unique sounding engine that's for sure - sounds so much nicer than a Briggs V-twin I recon!
I do like the nature shots at the end. Just for grins, do you have any shots of a stream in the winter and same stream in the summer for a comparison?
Glad you got the engine diagnosed and fixed. Sounds very good now.
Dave.
How about right after the next Hurricane when that stream is still ragging.
Would love like a 10hr vid of that stream for skeeping great white noise stuff
Another great instalment. Thanks very much. Good to see these old machines get a new life.
As always Mustie, very interesting and entertaining.
Thanks for taking the time to make the videos.
Sincerely
Rod
I've been waiting all night for this video! Time to make the Donuts!
Hi Darren, great job as usual ,is your camera slightly out of focus , or maybe my tired old eyes?
All the best from Scotland , and keep up the great work!
They now have these things called glasses. Get some.
The Bowzer .????
Other geezers like me wear reading glasses with my iPad Longer arms do not help, darn it.
Thanks for the indepth video, tapping the valves back straight, and putting the home made screen in . Tips I can definitely use. Keep up the good work
I would have been afraid to straighten those valves like you did, thanks for broadening my horizon a little! Great video, I wish I could stumble across an old 318 like that.
been looking forward to this one lets make coffee.
yeah, it's now my Sunday morning routine .. brew coffee, watch Mustie, then decide what the rest of day is
Same here. As soon as I saw the notification the coffee was done. Perfect 👌
Aah the joy of a keurig. By the time the bagel is toasted n schmeared it's Mustie Time!
Same here 👍🏼
37:38 Regular extensions or rated torque sticks have no effect on the final torque delivered by a hand held click or beam type torque wrench. They only limit the torque of powered impact tools.
It was always my understanding that greasing or lubricating the threads had more of an effect on misleading your torque wrench.
Excellent series on the John Deere. I'm past the age of tinkering on engines, but I sure wish your channel had been around when I was. Very educational and your never fail to teach me something new.
Very nicely done Mustie. I admire your persistence and thoroughness. Thanks for sharing. Nice plow with the controls, so nice. Hoping you play with the snow blower as well.
You got a drum roll from both my 9 yo son and myself. He even threw in some cymbals.
Using an extension on a torque wrench (no matter how long) does NOT affect the output torque. The torque you put in equals the torque coming out the other end. You will have to rotate the wrench further because of the elasticity of the metal, but as long as pressure is held for more than a very brief amount of time, the same torque comes out the other end. This does not apply to impact wrenches as they do not apply constant pressure.
One of the things that will change the intended output of your torque of your torque wrench would be the use of a crowsfoot or simular attachment which puts the bolt or nut off center of the output of the torque wrench
I'm happy to see this great machine back up and running like it is supposed to be! There is something about those Onans that just makes them sound so sweet when they run. This project has been one of my favorites to watch!
Good series. This gave me a lot more respect for John Deere lawn tractors. That's a solid machine.
The original ones. The new ones are junk.
I really have to wonder why anyone would thumbs down a Mustie 1 video?
10 minutes and a full page of comments....are we interested?!?!?!
Live long and prosper!
You are darned good at this stuff Mr. Mustie. Thank You for sharing your knowledge
I love how smooth that thing ran after you got done with it. Oh so very satisfying to bring it back. I'm not usually a cosmetics guy, but the quick paint job sure seemed worth it. It's going to look nearly new when you put it into service as the shop plow! Thanks for a great video Mustie1.