+Thomi if that is so about da bugs, then why did they complete zangarmarsh for example, too many mushrooms + bugs there too. also y do ppl like tanaris? silithyds there too.
Lumer Arkenstone You're not alone sir! It's still my favourite zone. Personally I didn't have any problems with the combat, and you could explore it properly from the start, because swimming, so in my mind it made sense to make it pretty big.
I hate to be that guy but it seems a bit weak to criticize entry zones for being crowded on the night of an expansion release, and for getting ganked while playing on a pvp server
Just because you're on PvP server doesn't mean ganking is something normal. People are dicks on their own merits, not based on a fucking server-side "on/off" switch.
No old Azshara? ^^ Funny thing is ... Desolace, Silithus and old Azshara ... I loved those Zones. Much mysteries. Nobody was ever there. They were ghostly, haunting ... I loved them.
+lupina015 Old Azshara was da bomb. But it was really hard to navigate, and there were tough monsters *everywhere*. It also didn't have enough quests to really justify leveling in that zone.
+lupina015 I loved old Azshara! It was so difficult and mysterious. As a leatherworker, I was always looking for ways to make gold, and Stormshroud patterns dropped there, bringing my (30s? IIRC) character into a very vast, mysterious, and dangerous zone. I really miss that place, which has since been replaced by lame goblin caricatures.
Hellfire Peninsula = Oh wow, you're the hero of Azeroth who defeated Kelthuzad, C'thun, Onyxia, and Ragnaros? That's nice. Now go kill 20 Fel Boars. 10/10 RPG. :-D
That's kind of what it's like every expansion. It's the problem of progression. Like are we really supposed to believe the the Nighthold janitor is stronger than the Lich King?
Let's not forget, "Here's a green weapon that is better than that epic one you got from killing the Old God C'thun, I give this to you for killing 20 fel boars, enjoy."
What about vanilla Azshara? That zone was utterly incomplete, there were maybe ten quests in the whole zone, and there were such infinitely better options that were closer to the 5-man dungeons that you'd want to be running for gear. There was no point to going to Aszshara in Vanilla. If you went, you were wasting time.
I agree with you! Azshara is shitty..full of hills you cannot walk on if not on the right paths. Bad questing also. Instead I would have taken awat Hellfire peninsula which was actually great to level up and get 58+ gear
I remember one of the worst things about Azshara was that massive cliff encircling most of the map, and if you made the mistake of tumbling down you were stuck down there for eternity.
I'm probably the only person in WoW that LOVED Vash. During Cata I was making $$$ because NOBODY wanted to farm that place. I also helped a ton of hunters get their spirit pets because I'd see Ghostcrawler out there all the time.
Someone saw me around the area while he was there. Neither of us had npc scan at the time but he found em and followed him around as he stealthed until i got there. Homies.
vash was one of my favorite zones! ran into poseidus once by accident and that was cool too but it was also a lot of fun to play in :p although it did feel really big and kind of made me nervous
I know this a year old post, but you're right Vash was such an epic zone. It was huge, new, unique and the questlines led you to epic battles with the naga. I leveled like 5 alts in that zone, and farmed for hours mining ore all for myself making hundreds of thousands of gold pieces even after Cata. Good times
Newbies... there are 4 Dinos.. 3 Dinos that patroll and 1 Rar mob, King Krush.. i always killed them... this was so epic nice xD.. but i know what u mean ; )
I can't put Arathi highlands on the Top 10 worst zones, purely because back in the day I experienced this place as a noob doing all the quests and thoroughly enjoying it, running there to queue for Arathi basin vs low level twinks where there were no heirlooms. Now since Cataclysm it is fairly Dull and compared with other leveling zones extremely slow to level in, which is a shame because it was one of my all time favorites!
To me, Arathi is just amazing because it's such a beautiful plains area. Sure there isn't much there, and it's slow to level in, but to be honest, why be in a hurry in the first place right?
People hate Arathi because it didnt give them 10 lvls worth of xp. Which is dumb because back in the day you had to level in multiple zones after about lvl 30. Theres a reason every 10 level bracket has about 3 zones
+Gobboh i didn´t like Vashj´ir but i liked Oculus, i played tank put a mark on my head said everyone just follow the mark and just raced through this ( a friend of mine actualy made a macro that explained people how to do the last boss)
+meistersam well...ok. But I think "didnt like Vashj'ir" doesnt mean you despise it like most ppl do...the zone worked perfectly, but many, for some reason, couldnt get along with that fact that it is underwater and said its broken and therefor it would be bad.
well i musst say that i think i only finished it with one char ever becouse i just liked MH so mutch more (with raggi endboss and you joining the ranks of the enemy and all the stuff MH just fellt mutch more epic) but still everyone likes diffrent thinks i for example like Hellfire a lot but dislike nearly all the MoP zones
+Gobboh i never understood people who left oculus hc... :D we loved it with two of my guildmates (6,4k arc mage (me), 6,8k blood dk, 6,4k resto shaman)
I seriously disagree with Vashj'ir. I play both melee and ranged toons and I skip Hyjal in favor of VJ. I never had a problem with combat, and it is GORGEOUS.
Oh and I love Silithus. Always went for 60 there. Maybe it's the constant insect thing..insects scare the shit out of me, and the buzzing is CONSTANT. I liked the feeling of constant dread and hopelessness, which pairs well with the Old God/Lovecraftian raid (AQ40) in which C'thun would tell you how you were going to die and everything was a pile of shit anyway so just give up. Def great for atmosphere, especially if you're a fan of Old God lore.
I do agree with Thaag on Vash just not on Silithus. Vash is a case of players just not wanting to adjust from a 2d environment and just plain laziness. It's definitely not for players that like to sit in a chair and press a single large button that feeds them a ton of junk food. I play FPS shooters all the time. You have to deal with people all around you. Not just on the x and y axis. I loved ganking in Vash because I would move in all directions, not just on the X and Y axis. I LOVED it. It made me think. WoW controls can put me to sleep sometimes. If you don't like Vash then its a definite L2P. That goes for all the other 6 million too. :P Need to learn to keep your hand on the right mouse trigger and look around more as well as macro that sea horse. You get it really quick. I'm seriously tired of the QQ and kinda pissed off the raid didn't make it because of all the crying scrubs. In my opinion it is one of the most beautiful zones in the game. If you miss the bioluminescence trench I feel for you (I forgot its name). Absolutely incredible artwork. You go real deep and it gets real dark except for all the glowing mobs and glowing plants. Fun trying to get at the mobs hiding in the coral too. (Ok I looked it up. It's called the Underlight Canyon in the Abyssal Maw.) One of the best hunter pets is nearby too. The infamous Ghostcrawler crab named after the famous dev. Its a shame they removed its nerf attack lol.
I agree VJ is a colorful zone that was magnificently made. My problem with the zone is purely personal: I'm scared crapless of underwater. Sharks, eels, snakes; this zone had everything I don't ever want to see and they all wanted to come after me. I did this zone ONCE for the achievement and I get the creeps just thinking about camping Poseidus.
Romullus What the hell is up with this "L2P" nonsense? Jesus, it's a disgusting term used by people who think people are complaining because they are bad.
ITQuatro I have to agree. I have friends who got severe vertigo from Vashj'ir, who are otherwise good players. I still stand by my assertion though that the zone is not horrible due to gameplay difficulty from 3d environment. Neurological probs aside, I think it is more about inflexibility.
After Vanilla, Silithus had a handful of easy and quick quest to get yourself from 54 to 58 for Outland. It's not the best zone, but it's not anywhere as bad as the rest on the list. Blade's Edge Mountains, fuck that shit. Just fuck it.
Classic Silithus before they redid the zone to add the AQ wall (which used to be at the halfway point on the map) wasn't bad for making cash. The mobs there didn't have a loot table so all they'd drop was money. .
Face it...the ONLY reason we did the Ogri'la dailys was to make the money to get 280 flying for the Netherwing mount...out of the 3 capped toons I had in BC the only one that did the dailys there was my warlock...I flat out refused to do them on any other toon.
Carle barton Haha. Maybe. I had cancelled my regular account at the end of WotLK and was goofing off with my trial account. I wanted to see how far I could get and was impressed that my level 20 could pass through the dark portal. So I figured, "hey, why not" and set about collecting the flight points by riding around on my mount. It was fun... in a weird sort of way.
That was the whole flair of wrath, they really forgot how to give the whole expansion a certain vibe. Everything felt more and more lonely and depressing the further you got into the north, climaxing with ICC and mysterious ulduar. I fucking loved wrath, man
I agree. I was suprised to see it here because it was so cool and different to swim everywhere. It was like a whole new game, you slowly decent into the abbyss... And I like the idea of free-flying or swimming whichever way.
It seems at the time of these ratings DD always accepts the ones with underwater zones for whatever reason because they aren't his cup of tea. Respectable and its your own list but I still highly disagree with most of the list.
Yeah I really liked this area, the time I spent there making screenshots of everything, i liked the quests, the story of the zone etc, I even liked how huge it was...yeah ok, sometimes I had trouble with hitting the mobs in there, but it wasn't that bad...Vash'jir is definitely on my favorite list.
+Brandon Schemers great zone but I would never do it again. Swimming is annoying, it's beautiful but my eyes hurt. It must be pain in the ass for melees as well
Thousand Needles - I liked vanilla version, i hated how they pretty much destroyed the zone in cata, but i LOVED the goblin/gnome ship and that you get your own boat. I want them to make an entire expansion on sea where you get to be a captain of your very own ship, upgrade it, get crew like followers in garrisons etc. that would be epic. Borean Tundra - One of the most diverse zones in the game, there are at least 4 different landscape types, most zones just have one or two types at best. I think it's vastly superior to Howling Fjord, which aside for the pirate questline, was pretty dull. Zul'Drak - agree, hate it. Arathi Highlands - I agree it's not the most effective zone to level in, but it's still a nice place. At least it's not linear like other cata zones, it's like a small piece of vanilla wow. Hellfire Peninsula - Disagree completely, one of the best leveling zones in the game. Dread Wastes - i barely remember it, i think i only did klaxxi questline there, not my favorite zone for sure. Vash'jr - Agree it sucks, it's too big (it's technically 3 zones) and too monotonous. Killing nagas gets boring after a while. Desolace - One of my favorite zones in vanilla, it was that gloomy wasteland at the edge of the world. Quests were awesome, one of the few areas where we could fight demons and infernals (before tbc it was a rarity) and that centaur questline was awesome. I agree the cata revamp is lame though, they ruined the feel of the zone. Blade's Edge Mountain - IDK i thought it was ok, and i LOVED the whole ogri'la thing. And again, one of the more diverse zones in the game, but not as much as tundra Silithus - to be honest vanilla blasted lands was far worse, im only sad it was barely touched in cataclysm (same as arathi highlands). But looking at turds like thousand needles, maybe that was for the best. They could make it even worse.
5 zones i would put there: Westfall - hate what they did to it, and that CSI miami storyline, seriously? Southern Barrens - i don't know why is it even called barrens anymore, it's a messy jungle/warzone now. Netherstorm - for some reason i think it's just a zone to avoid, i only completed it once in TBC for loremaster, otherwise i avoid it for all cost (i also hate eye of the storm, maybe its something about the purple landscape) Draenei starting area - worst starting area hands down, awful quests and bland enviroment, bleh. Dragonblight - This is how i imagined the whole northrend to look before wrath came out. A giant snowy wasteland with nothing interesting going on. Good thing the rest of northrend isn't like that. otherwise i would hate that expansion.
Bolek Lolek Hellfire was a really great zone. I personally had a really bad experience with my first character, But through out alts it was a pretty awesome place. I would never forget the time I got my first flying mount there xD I had a blast flying.
It's a shame that they clearly didn't give a fuck about Silithus, because the zone is actually pretty cool looking and kind of mysterious feeling as well, but there's fuck all to do in it.
It was my favorite zone in Cataclysm. I was never bothered having to level there with any of my characters. I was leveling there though with a friend, when I realized why exactly someone might not like it. People with horrible perception. Having to think in 3 dimensions = lost like a mother fucker for many people. You can't even get people to pay attention to their surroundings in a raid, how could they ever do anywhere else in the game.
Honestly, I was so happy to see an underwater zone, sharks and giant whalesharks, all the underwater themed mobs, the 2 underwater themed seahorse mounts, Just loved it. It's sad though that everyone loves hating on it, personally, I wish there'd be another underwater region in a future ep.
I know right. One of the most beautiful zones every, leveled 3 melee characters through it and never had a problem, it's thanks to these whiny nobs that we will never see an underwater expansion.
Desolace was my favorite zone back in the day. It just felt so lonely, away from the world, it was like its own solitary game. Probably because I was the only one there XD
Half of this list should have been Outland places alone, tbh. Fuck the Outlands with a rake. And I'm glad I'm not the only one that wants to vomit whenever I even hear about Desolace.
I agree that the Fjord beats Borean Tundra, but both Outland and Northrend have their good parts. Most of the mandatory Northrend zones are just fine, and the 77-80 zones (Icecrown, Sholozar, Storm Peaks) are all fun to quest in. Note: when I say Icecrown, I'm not referring to the Tournament. Just the actual quests.
I actually really like how Silithus LOOKS but leveling there is worthless. The "abandoned by blizzard" feeling gives it some charm though IMO, same goes for Highlands. I actually like how nothing much has changed there.
Made the same point, and agree with ya. Those two zones are little relics. They're windows, shards of the past. And I have good memories of playing WoW back then...so in a way, I like them. If I ever retire from the game, I could see Nagrand or Arathi being where I make my final log-off...
Same with Hinterlands. There were less than 10 quests there, and the place was only good for farming Sungrass. But still, I've got fond memories of doing the Zul'Farrak quest that involves going there and killing some level 50 elite mob to get the item to summon the hydra boss, which rewards a really nice blue 1h mace. Or the quest from Booty Bay that has you go all the way to the eastern coast of the zone to collect a quest item...ahh, those ridiculously long-distance fetch quests from vanilla...
When i first got to silithus in vanilla there was so little content i didnt even stay for more then 20mins. Looked cool, but from then on EPL was my go to spot for hitting 60
I disagree - Vashj'ir was an amazing zone: Visually stunning, good story, adequate quest efficiency and a nice twist with having to move in 3 dimensions (and no, I never had trouble with that, combat or otherwise). It's only problem is that the majority of wow players are close-minded comfort-junkies that are woefully unappreciative of innovation
Nobody complains about it being innovative, people complain because it was done really poorly. It's developers responsibility to make playtests and make sure that stuff works just right. It's not about doing something cool for the sake of it being cool.
I both love and hate Vashj'ir. I never understood the combat problem - until I lvld a melee alt. Ok, that was a bit annoying. The place is absolutely stunning, tho it wouldve been better cut somewhat down in size. What really really turned me off Vashj'ir to the point of avoiding at any cost - the many many bugs. There were just soooo many bugs, both with various quests and with phasing, making it very difficult to get through the zone without having a GM on standby to fix it, and sometimes just autocomplete a quest, coz they couldnt figure out the problem either. I recently lvld 1 of the new races, and I decided to give Vashj'ir another try after having literally not been there since Cata. Nope, still as buggy as ever. Blizz apparently found it too difficult to fix, or they just dont give a shit.
And also the quest chain where you help the Lao break free from their troll captors and the quest chain where you "become" one of the undead scourge is freaking amazing and part of the reason I did this entire zone from start to finish on 5+ alts
zul'drak is an amazing leveling place if you're interested in the lore and in the freeing of the loa spirits. but until you end up at that chain, you're stuck with the "agreed to", endless collect quests from the argent crusade. i once spend two hours waiting for somethign to spawn and the water elementals were an 1/30 chance the item dropped, and you needed a lot. lastly the questline from the ebon hold. oh my goodness i tried that questline, once. i gave up when i completly lost the objective and what i had to do, and the sentinels would just screw your disguise over right in the middle of the elite mobs.
I remember how impressed I was when I finally got into Blade's Edge Mountains. What a fucking let down.
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Ungoro Crater! I remember there was a quest there where you have to be bitten 20 times by a mod (it was a debuff actually) for you to receive a recolored version of the same shitty mount and the mobs casted that debuff once in a month. Also...roaming giant dinosuars. And dinosaurs everywhere. And shitty quests. And a lot of backtracking. And a lot of ganks. Man i hated that zone...
Un'Goro Crater is possibly my favorite area! It's visually pleasant, GREAT lore behind it, those fucking epic T-Rex enemies to rock your socks off, and one of my favorite NPC's, Maximillian of Northshire with his quests that had me smiling out loud every time he spoke. I don't know if the Crater used to be any different (someone tell me this), but I think you should pay it a visit. Atleast just to do Maximillian's quests, you will not regret it.
hildegain Un'Goro, Stranglethorn and Sholazar basin are jungle/thick forest areas, and I can understand if that's not your thing (it is mine tho). But Tanaris... yeah fuck Tanaris
I played this zone on Nost and wow, it's not what I remember. A lot of the quests in Shimmering Flats are basically just kill wild life till 8/8 of an item drops. The drop % was somewhere around 10-25% and certain mobs like the vultures only spawned in two locations making for quite a lot of competition, especially on a PvP server. Aside from that, there also weren't a lot of quests in the Bluffs area either. I think the only cool quest was killing the Grimtotem as it was pretty scenic. Aside from that, there was nothing really cool about the zone. Of course, this is just my opinion. I have different tastes and maybe I'm a little biased because it's the zone I had to grind through to get to my favorite classic zone, Tanaris.
Bakesale59 I didn't. I leveled through it twice on different toons, and never again. Howling Fjord is just too beautiful, scenic, and well laid out to not level there rather than borean tundra. Of course, this is just my opinion, but I think HF is a much better zone.
It wouldn't be bad if they limited the PvP to something resembling fair; my experiences with Hellfire was bored 100s ganking for shits and giggles. They few times I actually got to PvP others my level, I enjoyed the zone, but without some form of balance it's a leveling nightmare.
What about Searing Gorge, where you can't take 5 steps without aggroing everyone in your range, their grandmothers, the hidden enemies and the entire cast of Over the Hedge, with none of those said mobs are giving you mercy?
Completely disagree on Desolace, I think it was an beautiful melancholic zone. Its the perfect example of the design differences between old and new WoW. Back then the zones where much more focused on immersion and atmosphere, the questing was secondary. Now Blizzard´s primarily concern in designing new Zones is to make the leveling as effective and streamlined as possible. I don´t say this is inherently bad, its more a thing of preference, what is more importend to you immersion or gameplay. Personally its the main reason WoW lost me. I didn´t have the feeling playing in a World anymore, it feels more like getting navigated through a theme park where I watch different attractions.
Damaglord As you say to each his own. But I think Blizzard's goal when designing zones in Cata was to tell a story in the zone that the player gets to take a part of. If anything, I think that's where the immersion comes in. The only thing it could use is player choice, since it is restricted to one story. Making zones too hard to level is a haphazard design choice to make. On the one hand you'd have a lot of dedication to leveling, which makes it feel like an incredible climb. But now we're at 100 max level, which takes a long time anyway unless you don't have anything to do outside of work.
Bad list. People seem to forget that zones are supposed to be creative, cool and that they should tell a story. It's not about quest efficiency or the zone that grants the most xp. Would you rather just be given the xp, or would you rather be part of an epic story in an aesthetically pleasing zone but level a little slower? You seem to have forgotten the purpose of the game.
Seems like this is the list of zones with the best stories - mostly. I have to agree that they ruined Thousand needles. And about Arathi, which had "too many elites" in the old days: Has that guy ever heard about playing with a friend? And Desolace? it used to have some shitty parts, but I really liked the clan rivalry quests, and the Cata parts are really nice as well.
I liked Silithus. It was one of the few zones that gave me some sense of adventure and danger. Since there were no quests it felt really lost and worth exploring.
I love Arathi Highlands so much, even in BC.... There was this one cave I found with a red ore that could be mined that i have never seen before and it wasn't even in the smelting list. Now going back it seems it has changed to mithril... Also there was this giant rare elite spawn that I would camp with my mates and all-in-all probably one of my favorite zones!!!
Dread wastes was amazing, loved that place, favorite mop leveling zone, intresting quest chain leading up to heart of fear, the atmosphere, the scary bugs, the Big reveal who the klaxxi actually serves. I loved that place
I'm genuinely surprised Vashj'ir is in this list, it's one of the few zones I'm addicted to. I swear, first time I went there I heard the main theme from The Little Mermaid in my head.
umm i dont know about the little mermaid comment lol but vashj'ir was actually great its the only place i liked leveling in wow all together idk what he's talking about with the camera view that makes it a hassel to attack monsters.. i was perfectly fine killing below above and all around.
Joe Carne i think he just like to rationalize whatever he says reguardless of whether its true or not, i think it just makes him feel better, i too have had no problems with combat on a ranged\melee class in Vashj'ir, ive watched several of his videos, and alot of stuff he says in his videos is untrue
I've never been in that zone, but I would sure love to go. It looks beautiful and interesting. And come on. It's an underwater zone! I thought that was creative.
I mentioned a reason why most people may not like the zone in another comment. It has to do with perception. A zone that forces you to orientate yourself by thinking in multiple dimensions, can be incredibly disorienting for people who are use to thinking in linear terms and WoW is intrinsically linear. Not dissing it's design, that is just how it is and a reason why so many people play it, because it is so simple. I like variety myself, so I can go from something taxing on the brain, to something easy and still find it enjoyable.
As a druid in Cata, Vash'jir was one of my fave zones to level through. Back then, I played on a laptop at Low settings. When I finally bought a real gaming PC, I went back to that zone and nearly shit myself because I never knew how beautiful it was. It is definitely one of the most misunderstood zones in the game. TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of other people disliked it just because without Ultra graphics, view distance is minimal and detail is shitty. The left part of the zone is especially the neatest -- it's so mysterious and gives a real dangerous vibe. When I first swam through it, it gave me the chills. It is honestly a real shame the raid was scrapped and that there wasn't much more to the zone. I love it.
Hellfire was an ugly colour, which was the biggest issue I had with it. The zones in Outland seemed to be mostly Monochromatic, and hideous because of it. SMV's was largely Black/Lime and Nagrand was Blue/Green, because they had two colours instead of just one, these zones turned out to be some of the better looking in the game. I hope they learned a lesson from this.
@105818205148038784604 1. It only takes 30 extra seconds to write a comment and I usually comment while watching the video. 2. How much time have you been wasting to find all of the videos I have commented on to come to this conclusion.
It's weird how, conceptually, lots of the zones on here are actually the best. It's just that the quests - or lack of quests - let them down a lot. Although, conceptually speaking, Desolace is now shit where once it was brilliant. It was made worse by Cataclysm. Like Dolan says in this video, Blizzard don't know what they want the zone to be any more. They should not have caved to the fuck-tards whose complaint was "I DON'T LIKE DESOLACE BECAUSE IT IS TOO DESOLATE". I bet those same people say "I DON'T LIKE FALLOUT BECAUSE IT IS TOO POST-APOCALYPTIC". You're completely allowed to not like a particular theme, but you should fucking avoid it rather than whining until the story/concept is ruined for everyone else and we get yet another homogenized mutant for a zone. (lol @ arathi, though.)
"There should never be a quest in the game you should write down notes for." Someone clearly didn't play his fair share of point-and-click adventure games.
Visually Silithus looks great and just due to its aesthetics, it has so much potential for a major-event type of thing revolving around the insect swarms and that alive-looking bone-cave stuff that sticks out. It's just the quests are lame and it's very slow-going. Every time I've been in Silithus, I honestly thought Blizz could easily make better quests there. I think of Starship Troopers and the bugs that always swarm the area, or even the zerg from Blizz's own Starcraft. I just think the place needs to be more infested, and have quests that revolve around that infestation more effectively.
My mistake when I first played WotLK was listening to everyone else about how they hated Borean Tundra. For some reason I LOVE it! I hate Fjord. And I loved Vashjr too. I wish Blizz had gone back and finished Silithus. It has such a wonderful atmosphere and always looked like it could have been made fun if it received the necessary amount of TenderLovingCare.
I freaking loved desolace way back when. it was nice. wide open zone were you could just see for miles. for a hunter on a pvp server, it was a blast because I had the room to kite horde around, or chase down horde for the kill. almost all of the beasts were skinnable, and they were evenly spaced
Rainy Jane I am from stormweaver. it is was a 50/50 pvp high pop server until cata. world pvp was common, AND BRUTAL. it now is like 30% alliance. roll stormweaver if you want to see what real pvp is like. roll alliance and there will be no shortage of horde to kill. the game is still good, I still play it
Nick Harder You mean back when it was still an incomplete pile of bugged shit? Go play on a vanilla private server, you'll be back in a week because you'll realize it was really bad and you just think it was better due to nostalgia.
With Hunters and Warriors and to a lesser extent, Death Knights and Druids, VJ was a superb zone to level in but that only made the balance issues more evident. A lot of other players with other classes saw how great the zone looked, the quests were arguably the most interesting and fun I ever did in the whole of Cataclysm and we actually LOST the main end battle rather than just automatically win the day like the norm, but if you were another caster or a Rogue or anyone with positional requirements like a Feral with anything other than 30-40ms then fighting became shockingly difficult and ever since Malygos 2nd phase, it's clear that a lot of players don't like being jolted into a three dimensional fight because they loose their depth perception. As a Hunter, I'd say I won a lot of my world pvp fights in the zone purely because of the environment. This leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.
The Vanilla Barrens....hands down the Barrens. There is no other choice here for #1. Shitty surroundings, shitty quests, shitty dungeons. Quests often required you to trek the entire length of the zone and it had the single most retarded chat by far. Not to mention Mankirk's Wife. I did cast my vote for her as Warchief though........
+Xavier Vega I remember I lvled my taured druid to lvl 15 in mulgore. Mulgore! Before I even knew I could go to the barrens. But since I was a tauren, the first mobs I encountered was lvl 18-20. Needless to say, I got my lvl 15 tauren ass handed to me.
Thassarian was a human soldier of the Alliance who died fighting Koltira Deathweaver, a blood elf serving the Horde, and was resurrected alongside him as a death knight of the Scourge. Being a part of the Scourge made Thassarian and Koltira look past their differences and become closer than brothers, and despite still being under the sway of the Lich King- risking death or worse at Arthas' hands- he launched an operation to retrieve Koltira from the Scarlet Crusade after they captured him. And now that the fight against the Lich King is over, Thassarian and Koltira serve the Alliance and Horde once again, fighting against each other despite being the only family they really have. Thassarian's story arc in the Borean Tundra takes place directly after the Battle of Light's Hope Chapel. Both the Death Knight starting questline and arc in the Borean Tundra are worth watching for that.
Why is XP the most important thing? Why doesn't having fun take priority? 7. The reason there weren't many quests in the Arathi Highlands, or in vanilla leveling in general, is because you weren't supposed to stay in the same zone! Do arathi for a couple of levels, go somewhere else, come back when your high enough. SO SIMPLE! 6. How can you say the quest zone was bad when it was really just the players? And also, I must say... the Horde stopping the alliance or vice versa from making progress? HOW RIDICULOUS! WARRING FACTIONS ALWAYS LET EACH OTHER MAKE ADVANCEMENTS! 2. Blades Edge was bad questing, but I loved it because It had an interesting story. No notes? God forbid we have to DO something! 1. Well we just have different opinions, I loved silithus, I loved the Lore, the quests, the mobs, aesthetic, the music, and most of all: opening of the gates. IMO the fact that it was empty at first was great, because it made the world feel less static. Think about it, in the beginning the Cenarion Circle was just investigating with a few druids dispatched to observe. Things started getting worse in silithus so the druids called on their order for help. The Circle set up a camp and called upon the world's adventurers to help stem the growing influence of the old god C'Thun, and eventually to raid his lair and topple his would be empire. That right there is an epic story worthy of any great game.
Oh god I remember Silithus xD I was "leveling" ther with my very first WoW Char and I hated it ^^ I ran out if quests very fast and because I didn't knew it better I just grinded my way through the Zone for hours. I was so happy when I was done with Silithus and I never returned to this hellhole since 2010.
Christian Andersen it is great. Just not for people like DD who want to power level through all the content. I live the zone. But I also enjoy leveling.
Stranglethorn, the worst zone in the history of Warcraft, it sucked before Cata, as well as after it. So many fucking beasts. It sucks balls. It even sucks balls even more on pvp servers.
Chris B I love STV! So many good memories from there. The area is just fun because it is, or at least was, so divorced from the story taking place in the rest of the game world.
GeorgeMonet I only hate it for the god damn page collecting quests back in the day. Fuck that shit. The rest I like and going there on a hunter is like waking up on Christmas morning.
i have a love and hate relationship with pandaria. when i was lvling in pandaria i got the feeling that everything was filled with secrets, and rare mobs and thats good, but than i get the feeling that i wont find them.
The Draenei City. I know it's not a continent but FUCK let me use a mount in that place, I don't wanna have to climb all the way up some stupid flat spiral staircase just to get out all the time. Oh also the Draenei starting area sucked too.
Gabuman you've obviously never played Horde. The ONLY city that doesn't have some bullshit elevator system (just as bad as that spiral, trust me,) is Silvermoon.
Awww Vash'jir is my 2nd fav place, being underwater, trapped, finding your way out, surviving in the depths was a thrill. Only confusing thing was the ending. Like, stopped right there? What? So I swim up in the surface and just leave. Huh
I loved Arathi Basin when I was levelling. The music and atmosphere were great and always remind me of lazy Sunday afternoons when Sunday roast is in the oven. I'd play this in between cooking. Silithus ain't that bad either. I spent days there, killing Twilight Cultists (which I spelled with an N not an L) to gain rep. No place in WoW is truly bad - it's what you make of it.
Know what I think is the real unfinished waste? Original Ashzara. A beautiful zone with absolutely nothing in it.. now its revamped and it's ugly as sin and still a shitty leveling zone. Silithus wasn't all bad when it neared the end of vanilla. From a lore perspective I think it is really cool, and some of the quests weren't that bad, but yeah.. most of the players doing stuff in Silithus were the players that really had nothing else to do while waiting for Blackwing Lair or AQ40 to start hehe.
YEAH....back in Vanilla....i loved Azshara. I would sometimes go there after or before raid just to kill some mobs, relax and be sure that nobody is going to disturb me. Best zone ever. And as a hordie, just behind the backdoor of OG. Lovely.
Nickcronomicon Same! Actually I spent a lot of time in Vanilla Wow just hanging around chilling in some beautiful areas. And I spent lots of time exploring and riding to get there. Nowadays everybody just teleports to the dungeons and back. I loved Arathi, and I actually even enjoyed Desolace (as Alliance), it seemed so mysterious with some strange ancient Night Elf towers at the coast and myteries of what happened there.
Vash'jir till today is still my favourite zone for questing, i love every part of it and honestly create new chars all the time just to go through all quests here. Music and art is amazing
I partially agree with this list: many of the areas are underwhelming grind-fests, slowing aquatic levels, or extermination zones. On the other hand, killing entire generations of silithid, ogres, cultists, and trophy creatures gives certain classes and trades some huge advantages; namely, any Mage/Warlock/Priest with Tailoring who's looking for cloth or Hunters with Skinning/Leatherworking trade combination (the Borean Tundra and Silithus were both paradise lands for Hunters).
Brandon Hatch The problem here isn't that the zones are useless for grinding things (Silithus is the Cenarion Circle reputation farming center of choice), its when you get there when LEVELING that the horror truly shows up.
Verunme The trouble is that I went everywhere, with every character, to level them up to the current maximum. This would include the faction's starting areas, so I could take a break from level-appropriate questing and work on the achievements.
'the slow aquatic level' was the place where i farmed 10+ k worth of leather for my leathercrafting hunter in te shortest time ever it was the only time i really farmed at all, i got rich after that
completely agree :) i loved it back in vanilla and always wanted to ding 60 there. was so happy when i finally got my first 60 there that i will always love it ;)
Hannah McGuigan Silithus and the surounding zones like Tanaris were really cool because of all those Pillars and the underlying theme in that area of Kalimdor
I only agree with half of them. Stranglethorn deserves a place in here... Endless quests like : kill 15 young tigers. Followed up by : kill 15 tigers. Followed up by : kill 15 mature tigers. Followed up by : kill 15 old tigers. And do this for panthers (which were stealthy), crocodiles and raptors too. And in vanilla you wouldn't have a mount yet, the only flightpaths were in booty bay and rebel camp (for alliance) so you had to do it on foot and the distances were huge (stv was 1 zone back then). And the worst part was that it was hell on pvp servers and there were only 2 graveyards in the zone, you died 4 or 5 times a quest bc of corpsecamping lvl 60s (which probably got their ass kicked by equal lvls, so they kill low lvls out of frustration). And everytime you died you had to run up to 8 min to reach your body, just to respawn and get killed 20 meters further again. A single quest could take hours. My nr 1 in vanilla times. I really disliked badlands too for the same reason as desolace, too empty, too boring. You can include blasted lands too for these reasons. Icecrown was just a huge place with flat fields that were really overcrowded and buggy quests. The parts on the walls were/looked all the same and sucked. It was no fun at all. Somehow I dislike the troll temple parts of zones too, troll stuff just doesn't grind my gears. Vasj'ir was ok in my opinion, not the best, but certainly not in the top 10 worst zones. The same for Borean Tundra, it isn't bad when not overcrowded.
+Spoony Spooner On the contrary, I'm willing to say that STV is the best zone in the game. Back in the day it was your first introduction to the 'real' WoW, you weren't a newbie anymore. The hunting quests ( which were actually 30 instead of 15 ) were a challenge in itself, and thus it felt much more than just a grindfest. It was the first place where you really felt and experienced the danger of the opposite faction, and the concept of a jungle for that scenario is just darn well perfect. Hunting animals, slaying trolls, beating Alliance, beautiful scenery, voodoo, pirates. In the jungle. Man, what's not to love?
Same. And as a lore-heavy and awesome-looking place, I loved Silithus. Then I tried to level there...Insanely fast mob respawns, overly dense enemy placement, but the same kind of an enemy was often kept hundreds of yards away from another of it's kind. And ofcourse... THE GOD-AWFUL Vanilla Twilight's Hammer quests still left in for random reasons (probably so you can still do the Openeing of Ahn'Qiraj event, even though it will reward nothing).
i as a pvpler really cant understand your problems. i loved hellfire; you gained XP incredible fast AND got to kill a lots, lots of players in open pvp, which is one of my favourite parts of the game after all. nuff said, but ok, when you are mainly a pve focused player you may not share my opinion
Covodex im a pvper too. I hate it because there are way too many quest that are not worth your time. I believe it is level 58- 63 which is not a big gap. Its to much for such a little level gap.
Christian Syndrome I hated most of outland, but hellfire and netherstorm particularly. They're bland and boring, everything is so far apart and the colour schemes make me want to kill myself.
SPOILER: lots of reading ahead! 10: you're kinda right although i liked the idea of a personal ship that you could use to dart around the zone and to me it feels like they made good use of the landscape and the fact that most areas are now uninhabitable is displayed by the quests pretty well imo 9: maybe thats just the nostalgic talking in me but except for the gnome quests in the north i really liked borean thundra and its still my go to place whenever i reach 68 on a toon 8: i do agree with the position in the list but to me its the exact opposite to your reasons. even tho the aestethics were fitting it made me not want to spend any time in this zone, but the only redeeming factor were the ghoul quests that, while tedious, had a nice idea behind it, you infiltrate the enemy operations and learn about the scourges plan, whilst sobataging the very same. 7. i agree on arathi highlands theyre kinda eeeh even now theres nothing to do there. 6: this is probably the nostalgic speaking in me but when i first entered the hellfire peninsula and turned around to see that giant portal i just came through along with the music, it made me feel incredibly small. i loved the scale of the zone and the scarceness of quests can easily be justified be the barren style they were going for. there's a reason its a HELLFIRE peninsula after all 5: i agree on dread wastes, i can see the zergy style they were going for but it doesnt really benefit the gameplay in any way other than inflated spirit healer runs. again the aestethics while pleasing left me trying to avaid the zone as much as possible 4: this is a very difficult one. vashj'ir didn't necessarily "fail" its just that it split the playerbase between the people who hated it and the ones who absolutely loved it (including me). the problem was that noone believed these people and called them out on being trolls, regarding the zone i found the underwater combat was a little annoying but tolerable, i have seen much worse in other games. the storyline was absolutely amazing and i lved every single quest, from the quite...eventful...entrance to the epic conclusion near the abyssal breach. the aestethics were very peasing and the mount was a very smart solution for blizz to fix the problem of scale. at least it makes me happy this is noth on no1 ;D 3: i agree on this one. i recently did it on an alt for my loremaster achievement and it was horrible, i was so happy when i was finally done. again i can see what they went for but it didn't quite hit the mark. 2: i havent done this one yet, mostly because everyone told me it was crappy so i never had the motivation to do it, so i will just keep out of this discussion point. 1: oh god yes this zone was horrible. they could have used it in classic as a massive hub to prepare for ahn quirai and they kinda did it with the opening event, which also ended up not being as successful as they imagined (i want it back D:) when i did it in cata i was suprised why i got the achievement half way in but then realized "nope, they just stopped here, this is the end" cutting off a questline like that....not a fan of it
Oh god, Arathi, yes. I still remember the first character I got to 20-something in vanilla was an undead priest and I wasn't sure where to go next. I can't remember how I ended up there but I ran myself into Arathi and was trying to do those quests. They were sooooo bad. Had to avoid mobs that were 10 levels higher than me as well as an Alliance town that you could easily just fall into for an instant death. On top of that I was on a PvP realm as a priest so I got ganked pretty often. Dear God. Soooo glad Blizzard made it so you can just mouse over zones on the map now and see their level.
Hmm looks like you and me have polar opposite opinions. For instance, I really liked Silithus. I liked the color shemes, the desert like feel and I liked the Qiray. Yeah there wern't that many quests, but I sometimes go there anyway. The only bad thing that makes it a bad leveling zone is the long way you have to travel to actually get there. I also liked Vashir. It felt new and refreshing. It was maybe a bit too big, yes, but I generally enjoyed questing there. Blizzard shot themselves in their own foot, however, by making Hyjal questing mandatory to Fireland Dailies. No one ever quested in vashir since you'd have to do Hyjal anyway for Fireland quests. It was such a shame. Why do you think that "people" (sounds like more than just two) disliked Vashir? Hellfire Peninsula is one of my favorite zones. I always looking forward to quest there on new toons and stay there as long as possible. There are plenty of quests there, different enemies, at least two worldbosses and a PVP area. It seems you base the value of a zone on its appeal at launchday... Every first zone of an Xpac had a crowded feeling, but that doesn't dimish the quality of a zone itself. I also prefer Borean Tundra over Howling Fjord. The quests and especially the music annoys me quite a bit. I do agree on Blade Edge Mountain, Arathi and Zul Drak, though.
So here are my thoughts: I loved hellfire peninsula. Matter of fact it could be one of my favorite leveling spots. I always look forward to that place. Maybe I just had a great time the very first time and the nostalgia keeps me in love. I also have some very fond memories of arathi highlands. (I guess I love wide open spaces. Could be why I like hellfire peninsula and yes even DESOLACE!) I also leveled in silithus once and enjoyed it. Remote, barren land with virtually nobody around. Maybe I'm just a hardcore loner at heart ;)
Un'Goro crater My worst leveling zone Endless dinosaurs everywhere you look,boring quest to collect crystals,boring quest to kill dinosaurs,boring quest to kill gorillas,boring quest to kill raptors,it all looks the same except one little mountain with fire elementals (whitch is also boring) The two good things about it were Maximilian of Northshire and the last quest where you get to play as some of the animals but then after you complete it it doesn't let you anymore
Man, I just realized I have very unpopular tastes. Silithus was a lousy leveling zone, but it themed around Ahn'Quiraj so well, I consider it to not be a leveling zone, much like Deadwind Pass. Alternatively I hated most of TBC's zones. While some were neat, they felt so.... color coded. Hellfire - Red Zangarmarsh - Blue Nagrand - Green Netherstorm - Purple etc Not a good way to design imo
i enjoyed silithus as well, it was just a huge grinding zone. the opening of the gates of AQ, killing thousands upon thousands of insects. I enjoyed the opening of AQ it was the one time when horde and alliance had to work together even on a PVP server. Ah vanilla WoW, the days when it was great.
Although it isn't the most enjoyable, it is the fastest way to level with the 20% xp building. It is also better because of Heirlooms scaling to 100...All-in-all, I don't like it but I get through it just to level faster :P
lapstatsFor some reason, I enjoy Spires of Arak. I liked learning more about the Arrakoa, and how you got to fight with Anzu against Hakkar or what's-his-name. It felt like you were really participating with the story and that you were of a high enough status to even be noticed by these deities, unlike other WoD zones. Dont get me wrong, I still love the whole "continent" of Draenor, I just found SoA the most memorable (I can barely remember the questlines from the other zones, which is saying something). Though, I must admit, the arid landscape did get a boring.
I would have to agree with you there. I went back to WoW a few months ago planning to hit level cap on a new character; the BC content took all the fun out of it and I was done once I got to Vash'Jir. One thing I hate the most is how they throw so many people into zones now; I sat in Nagrand for hours waiting on bosses to respawn just for a hunter to throw traps on the spawn.
Hellfire Peninsula was literally the best zone ever.. It brought a different world feeling especially when you could see the many colorful planets, and the quests and experience were sooo sooo fulfilling as well as the really really great dropped and reward items!
the only thing i liked about borean tundra was the quest with the death knight. Amd call me crazy, but i loved silithus, because no one was ever there, and it had nice xp in my opinion
devilkapper yeah people in my guild called me crazy for spending so much time in Silithus but I really enjoyed that place. Was also the richest player in the guild thanks to my time there, got so much Dreamfoil, Black Lotus, Mountain Silversage (i think it was called?) and lots and lots of those texts you farmed for rep as well as sets for summoning =) I ended vanilla with close to 10k gold.
Mathias Erichsen now if i recall, Essence of Air is the thing now. I got bags and bags full of it and i placed it in the AH on proudmoore. made about 9k gold from auctioning all of it.
Mathias Erichsen Holy shit!! I remember feeling like a baller just because i had the 100 gold for my mount back then... You were straight Donald Trumpin back then
Arathi Highlands was pretty awesome back in the day. It's boring now because it's so faceroll easy. One of my best memories of when I was leveling my first main was Fozruk. He used to be elite back then, and he hit like a truck! He would travel around the zone, and he had three adds. Trying to take him on by yourself was like taking on a mini-boss. It took three people to take him down. I died to him so many times, and I was determined to take him solo. I finally got him when I had out leveled him. The zone is only boring now because you finish the quests and move on. But back then you were in the zone for a while. I can't understand the mentality of people who complain that "zones are too easy now compared to Vanilla and BC," but then they turn around and COMPLAIN about the old world elites being "too hard." ATTN! The old world elites are one of the things that made the world hard back then! They're one of the things I really miss today. And it was moronic for Buzzard to get rid of them, because with heirlooms those old elites would still not be a challenge today. -
They didnt finish Silithus because it had too many bugs.
+Thomi groan
get out
+Thomi The face for you prof just finishes it off lmao im dyin
+Thomi (facepalm) they completed it after cata dumbass, y dont U go do the zone, yall probably never even raided ahn' Qiraj on normal, derps ...
+Thomi if that is so about da bugs, then why did they complete zangarmarsh for example, too many mushrooms + bugs there too. also y do ppl like tanaris? silithyds there too.
A lot of people like Vash'jir including myself. Its a zone that's not for everyone. Vash'jir was awesome in my opinion.
same here... :)
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I liked the animals there and going into that giant thing ( I'm sorry forget what it's called)
It's my favorite leveling zone in the game, followed by Uldum.
Chris H I don't like uldum at all. xD
But it's a shame that you lvl faster then you can progress in the zone. (Vash'jir)
I can't be the only one who actually really liked Vashj'ir, right?
Lumer Arkenstone You're not alone sir! It's still my favourite zone. Personally I didn't have any problems with the combat, and you could explore it properly from the start, because swimming, so in my mind it made sense to make it pretty big.
Lumer Arkenstone It's my favourite too
Lumer Arkenstone Your opinion is wrong.
Lumer Arkenstone Once you have the Sea Horsey mount it becomes a lot of fun!
Lumer Arkenstone I love vash´jir :/
I hate to be that guy but it seems a bit weak to criticize entry zones for being crowded on the night of an expansion release, and for getting ganked while playing on a pvp server
Its odd that he criticizes Borean Tundra when everything he said about it could be applied to Howling Fjord as well.
+eyeh8u1 Howling Fjord had music and undead.Better than noise and orcs
Fjord also looked better. Tundra just looked unpleasing to the eye by comparison.
back then even on pve servers you were open to attack in most zones, it just meant less pvp-oriented.
Just because you're on PvP server doesn't mean ganking is something normal. People are dicks on their own merits, not based on a fucking server-side "on/off" switch.
No old Azshara? ^^
Funny thing is ... Desolace, Silithus and old Azshara ... I loved those Zones. Much mysteries. Nobody was ever there. They were ghostly, haunting ... I loved them.
+lupina015 Old Azshara was da bomb. But it was really hard to navigate, and there were tough monsters *everywhere*. It also didn't have enough quests to really justify leveling in that zone.
+lupina015 I had the exact same feeling! It's what made them unique. Loved them too ^^
+Aleksa Petrovic yay, finally ppl that like silithus with me ^^
+lupina015 I loved old Azshara! It was so difficult and mysterious. As a leatherworker, I was always looking for ways to make gold, and Stormshroud patterns dropped there, bringing my (30s? IIRC) character into a very vast, mysterious, and dangerous zone. I really miss that place, which has since been replaced by lame goblin caricatures.
+lupina015 I liked Silithus because it felt very Starship Troopers to me, plus it was great for farming Thorium.
Hellfire Peninsula = Oh wow, you're the hero of Azeroth who defeated Kelthuzad, C'thun, Onyxia, and Ragnaros? That's nice. Now go kill 20 Fel Boars.
10/10 RPG. :-D
Kynario that's every zone in every expansion. There's always a quest for digging thru animal poo, too.
Daedric16 Yeah exactly. I understand why it has to be the way it is... it's just funny though. :-D
Kynario LMAO!. Spot on!
That's kind of what it's like every expansion. It's the problem of progression. Like are we really supposed to believe the the Nighthold janitor is stronger than the Lich King?
Let's not forget, "Here's a green weapon that is better than that epic one you got from killing the Old God C'thun, I give this to you for killing 20 fel boars, enjoy."
i actually liked the borean tundra alot.
+Valansch Borean Tundra is one of my favorite zones. There's so much variety in quests and monsters. I much prefer it to Howling Fjord.
+Jordan Shank yees thank you! exactly...i love the variety.. its even in the whole look of the zone...its not the same everywhere
+Valansch "Look mom I hate EU I'm so edgy"
Solaxe S
That's about the dumbest thing i have read all day.
+Valansch i was skinning with my hunter there in BC :D
What about vanilla Azshara? That zone was utterly incomplete, there were maybe ten quests in the whole zone, and there were such infinitely better options that were closer to the 5-man dungeons that you'd want to be running for gear. There was no point to going to Aszshara in Vanilla. If you went, you were wasting time.
I agree with you! Azshara is shitty..full of hills you cannot walk on if not on the right paths. Bad questing also.
Instead I would have taken awat Hellfire peninsula which was actually great to level up and get 58+ gear
He said: "In vanilla"
I remember one of the worst things about Azshara was that massive cliff encircling most of the map, and if you made the mistake of tumbling down you were stuck down there for eternity.
It was supposed to be a dota like battleground in some patch but blizzard scrapped that idea
It was pretty though. It was A E S T H E T I C ~
I'm probably the only person in WoW that LOVED Vash. During Cata I was making $$$ because NOBODY wanted to farm that place. I also helped a ton of hunters get their spirit pets because I'd see Ghostcrawler out there all the time.
Someone saw me around the area while he was there. Neither of us had npc scan at the time but he found em and followed him around as he stealthed until i got there.
Homies.
Your not lonely half of everybody here likes that zone
Nah, it's in my top three as favorite zones.
vash was one of my favorite zones! ran into poseidus once by accident and that was cool too but it was also a lot of fun to play in :p although it did feel really big and kind of made me nervous
I know this a year old post, but you're right Vash was such an epic zone. It was huge, new, unique and the questlines led you to epic battles with the naga. I leveled like 5 alts in that zone, and farmed for hours mining ore all for myself making hundreds of thousands of gold pieces even after Cata. Good times
Calling it before I see it. #1. Ungoro Crater! The worse was getting killed by those two roaming dinosaurs.
I HATE that place.
so close
So, because you can't watch out for 2 mobs in the ENTIRE PLACE, it is bad questing?
herogamer555 "the worse" doesn't mean only. It simply means one prominent memorable example among many for my extreme dislike of that place.
Newbies... there are 4 Dinos.. 3 Dinos that patroll and 1 Rar mob, King Krush.. i always killed them... this was so epic nice xD..
but i know what u mean ; )
Was about to complain about Ungoro Crater.. Then I saw this, thanks for doing my job!
I can't put Arathi highlands on the Top 10 worst zones, purely because back in the day I experienced this place as a noob doing all the quests and thoroughly enjoying it, running there to queue for Arathi basin vs low level twinks where there were no heirlooms. Now since Cataclysm it is fairly Dull and compared with other leveling zones extremely slow to level in, which is a shame because it was one of my all time favorites!
I completely agree with everything you mentioned here!
on eof the first zones i went to, its where my lock leveled and i first used my eye of kilrog back in wraith.
To me, Arathi is just amazing because it's such a beautiful plains area. Sure there isn't much there, and it's slow to level in, but to be honest, why be in a hurry in the first place right?
People hate Arathi because it didnt give them 10 lvls worth of xp. Which is dumb because back in the day you had to level in multiple zones after about lvl 30. Theres a reason every 10 level bracket has about 3 zones
weasel3k Still a cryin shame because it's such a nice area.
people that put Vashj'ir on such a list are those who kept leaving the group whenever the dungeonfinder put them in a group for Oculus HC...
+Gobboh i didn´t like Vashj´ir but i liked Oculus, i played tank put a mark on my head said everyone just follow the mark and just raced through this ( a friend of mine actualy made a macro that explained people how to do the last boss)
+meistersam well...ok. But I think "didnt like Vashj'ir" doesnt mean you despise it like most ppl do...the zone worked perfectly, but many, for some reason, couldnt get along with that fact that it is underwater and said its broken and therefor it would be bad.
well i musst say that i think i only finished it with one char ever becouse i just liked MH so mutch more (with raggi endboss and you joining the ranks of the enemy and all the stuff MH just fellt mutch more epic) but still everyone likes diffrent thinks i for example like Hellfire a lot but dislike nearly all the MoP zones
+Gobboh i never understood people who left oculus hc... :D we loved it with two of my guildmates (6,4k arc mage (me), 6,8k blood dk, 6,4k resto shaman)
They're also the people that have no idea which drake to pick for that dungeon, so they all go with the ruby drake..
I seriously disagree with Vashj'ir. I play both melee and ranged toons and I skip Hyjal in favor of VJ. I never had a problem with combat, and it is GORGEOUS.
Oh and I love Silithus. Always went for 60 there. Maybe it's the constant insect thing..insects scare the shit out of me, and the buzzing is CONSTANT. I liked the feeling of constant dread and hopelessness, which pairs well with the Old God/Lovecraftian raid (AQ40) in which C'thun would tell you how you were going to die and everything was a pile of shit anyway so just give up. Def great for atmosphere, especially if you're a fan of Old God lore.
I do agree with Thaag on Vash just not on Silithus. Vash is a case of players just not wanting to adjust from a 2d environment and just plain laziness. It's definitely not for players that like to sit in a chair and press a single large button that feeds them a ton of junk food. I play FPS shooters all the time. You have to deal with people all around you. Not just on the x and y axis. I loved ganking in Vash because I would move in all directions, not just on the X and Y axis. I LOVED it. It made me think. WoW controls can put me to sleep sometimes. If you don't like Vash then its a definite L2P. That goes for all the other 6 million too. :P Need to learn to keep your hand on the right mouse trigger and look around more as well as macro that sea horse. You get it really quick. I'm seriously tired of the QQ and kinda pissed off the raid didn't make it because of all the crying scrubs. In my opinion it is one of the most beautiful zones in the game. If you miss the bioluminescence trench I feel for you (I forgot its name). Absolutely incredible artwork. You go real deep and it gets real dark except for all the glowing mobs and glowing plants. Fun trying to get at the mobs hiding in the coral too. (Ok I looked it up. It's called the Underlight Canyon in the Abyssal Maw.) One of the best hunter pets is nearby too. The infamous Ghostcrawler crab named after the famous dev. Its a shame they removed its nerf attack lol.
I agree VJ is a colorful zone that was magnificently made. My problem with the zone is purely personal: I'm scared crapless of underwater. Sharks, eels, snakes; this zone had everything I don't ever want to see and they all wanted to come after me. I did this zone ONCE for the achievement and I get the creeps just thinking about camping Poseidus.
Romullus What the hell is up with this "L2P" nonsense? Jesus, it's a disgusting term used by people who think people are complaining because they are bad.
ITQuatro I have to agree. I have friends who got severe vertigo from Vashj'ir, who are otherwise good players. I still stand by my assertion though that the zone is not horrible due to gameplay difficulty from 3d environment. Neurological probs aside, I think it is more about inflexibility.
After Vanilla, Silithus had a handful of easy and quick quest to get yourself from 54 to 58 for Outland. It's not the best zone, but it's not anywhere as bad as the rest on the list.
Blade's Edge Mountains, fuck that shit. Just fuck it.
Classic Silithus before they redid the zone to add the AQ wall (which used to be at the halfway point on the map) wasn't bad for making cash. The mobs there didn't have a loot table so all they'd drop was money. .
it was also never intended to be a leveling zone
+Robert Leiper used to be the only sky you could see the little blue moon in at night as well.
I still have nightmares about Ogri'la
Face it...the ONLY reason we did the Ogri'la dailys was to make the money to get 280 flying for the Netherwing mount...out of the 3 capped toons I had in BC the only one that did the dailys there was my warlock...I flat out refused to do them on any other toon.
Blade's Edge Mountain? seriously?? that zone was easy and quick, if you put that on your list then you failed at the game and need to L2P
BEM sucked, nobody likes that zone.
Maarten Style of BEM is one of the best in the game, but Questing is horrible.
That zone is where my level 20 trial-account priest died the most while trying to collect all of the attainable flight points.
Robert Bennett lol u must be REALLY bored
Carle barton
Haha. Maybe. I had cancelled my regular account at the end of WotLK and was goofing off with my trial account. I wanted to see how far I could get and was impressed that my level 20 could pass through the dark portal. So I figured, "hey, why not" and set about collecting the flight points by riding around on my mount. It was fun... in a weird sort of way.
Dragonblight gave me seasonal depression, no joke
For that reason, I liked it.
That was the whole flair of wrath, they really forgot how to give the whole expansion a certain vibe. Everything felt more and more lonely and depressing the further you got into the north, climaxing with ICC and mysterious ulduar. I fucking loved wrath, man
Yea dragonblight literally sucked
I would have to say I highly disagree with Vash'jir ( my favorite zone ) and the overall list. But, people are entitled to their own opinions.
The zone is the prettiest, and has the best music by far in wow.
I agree. I was suprised to see it here because it was so cool and different to swim everywhere. It was like a whole new game, you slowly decent into the abbyss... And I like the idea of free-flying or swimming whichever way.
only reason i do not like it is i feel its slower leveling than hyjal. i love the look of the zone though.
It seems at the time of these ratings DD always accepts the ones with underwater zones for whatever reason because they aren't his cup of tea. Respectable and its your own list but I still highly disagree with most of the list.
Yeah I really liked this area, the time I spent there making screenshots of everything, i liked the quests, the story of the zone etc, I even liked how huge it was...yeah ok, sometimes I had trouble with hitting the mobs in there, but it wasn't that bad...Vash'jir is definitely on my favorite list.
Am I the only one who liked Vash'jir? It also worked really well for me. I'm a druid so maybe that's not a big surprise.
+Brandon Schemers I LOVED Vash'jir, my favorite zone of Cata. So colorful, i enjoyed the swimming and 3D questing, and the lore was just... so nice!
+Brandon Schemers great zone but I would never do it again. Swimming is annoying, it's beautiful but my eyes hurt. It must be pain in the ass for melees as well
+Solaxe S i loved it with my pally :D
yass as a druid you had like 400% swimming speed, at least it felt like it
Thousand Needles - I liked vanilla version, i hated how they pretty much destroyed the zone in cata, but i LOVED the goblin/gnome ship and that you get your own boat. I want them to make an entire expansion on sea where you get to be a captain of your very own ship, upgrade it, get crew like followers in garrisons etc. that would be epic.
Borean Tundra - One of the most diverse zones in the game, there are at least 4 different landscape types, most zones just have one or two types at best. I think it's vastly superior to Howling Fjord, which aside for the pirate questline, was pretty dull.
Zul'Drak - agree, hate it.
Arathi Highlands - I agree it's not the most effective zone to level in, but it's still a nice place. At least it's not linear like other cata zones, it's like a small piece of vanilla wow.
Hellfire Peninsula - Disagree completely, one of the best leveling zones in the game.
Dread Wastes - i barely remember it, i think i only did klaxxi questline there, not my favorite zone for sure.
Vash'jr - Agree it sucks, it's too big (it's technically 3 zones) and too monotonous. Killing nagas gets boring after a while.
Desolace - One of my favorite zones in vanilla, it was that gloomy wasteland at the edge of the world. Quests were awesome, one of the few areas where we could fight demons and infernals (before tbc it was a rarity) and that centaur questline was awesome. I agree the cata revamp is lame though, they ruined the feel of the zone.
Blade's Edge Mountain - IDK i thought it was ok, and i LOVED the whole ogri'la thing. And again, one of the more diverse zones in the game, but not as much as tundra
Silithus - to be honest vanilla blasted lands was far worse, im only sad it was barely touched in cataclysm (same as arathi highlands). But looking at turds like thousand needles, maybe that was for the best. They could make it even worse.
5 zones i would put there: Westfall - hate what they did to it, and that CSI miami storyline, seriously?
Southern Barrens - i don't know why is it even called barrens anymore, it's a messy jungle/warzone now.
Netherstorm - for some reason i think it's just a zone to avoid, i only completed it once in TBC for loremaster, otherwise i avoid it for all cost (i also hate eye of the storm, maybe its something about the purple landscape)
Draenei starting area - worst starting area hands down, awful quests and bland enviroment, bleh.
Dragonblight - This is how i imagined the whole northrend to look before wrath came out. A giant snowy wasteland with nothing interesting going on. Good thing the rest of northrend isn't like that. otherwise i would hate that expansion.
Bolek Lolek we'll get our own docks in garrison, so with (possibly) incoming sea expansion it's quite likely
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Bolek Lolek Hellfire was a really great zone. I personally had a really bad experience with my first character, But through out alts it was a pretty awesome place. I would never forget the time I got my first flying mount there xD I had a blast flying.
vash jir is one of my favorite zones actually. Loved the questline and feel.
Me2
Vashj'ir was amazing.
It's a shame that they clearly didn't give a fuck about Silithus, because the zone is actually pretty cool looking and kind of mysterious feeling as well, but there's fuck all to do in it.
Was the best pvp spot in vanilla.
Vashjir was cool as fuq. Sad that so many kids don't like it.
It was my favorite zone in Cataclysm. I was never bothered having to level there with any of my characters. I was leveling there though with a friend, when I realized why exactly someone might not like it. People with horrible perception. Having to think in 3 dimensions = lost like a mother fucker for many people. You can't even get people to pay attention to their surroundings in a raid, how could they ever do anywhere else in the game.
Honestly, I was so happy to see an underwater zone, sharks and giant whalesharks, all the underwater themed mobs, the 2 underwater themed seahorse mounts, Just loved it. It's sad though that everyone loves hating on it, personally, I wish there'd be another underwater region in a future ep.
WTB underwater expac with queen azhara as final boss
I know right. One of the most beautiful zones every, leveled 3 melee characters through it and never had a problem, it's thanks to these whiny nobs that we will never see an underwater expansion.
Jabulani97 Lol. An entire underwater expansion sounds like too much. I'll take more underwater questing though.
Desolace was my favorite zone back in the day. It just felt so lonely, away from the world, it was like its own solitary game. Probably because I was the only one there XD
Do the centaur quests still exist? Its been many a year since I've quest there.
I did enjoy Desolace on a TBC server leveling with a friend.
There's a reason it's called Desolace.
+mrjtg12 hahaha
I loved Vash'Jir!
fucking liar you was just in it for the sea horse
it wasn't bad if you were ranged,, it's melee that had the depth perception probs
Ret pally all day :P
I loved the quests and the aesthetic... The combat was horrendous though...
Well I was ranged so that made it easier, guess I'll have to avoid it on my rogue. Where else is good to go for 80-85?
Half of this list should have been Outland places alone, tbh. Fuck the Outlands with a rake. And I'm glad I'm not the only one that wants to vomit whenever I even hear about Desolace.
same here man. Mauradon also, that instance was fucking hell (back when there was no group finder and u had to run THE WHOLE THING)
I disagree. I liked Nagrand and Zangarmarsh
Zangarmarsh and Twisting Nether was kind of cool, didn't like Swamp of Sorrows though. It's still the one zone I've never quested in even since Cata
Outlands and Northrend is pretty shit imo.. Most annoying zones to lvl through.
I agree that the Fjord beats Borean Tundra, but both Outland and Northrend have their good parts. Most of the mandatory Northrend zones are just fine, and the 77-80 zones (Icecrown, Sholozar, Storm Peaks) are all fun to quest in. Note: when I say Icecrown, I'm not referring to the Tournament. Just the actual quests.
I actually really like how Silithus LOOKS but leveling there is worthless. The "abandoned by blizzard" feeling gives it some charm though IMO, same goes for Highlands. I actually like how nothing much has changed there.
so rebel
wow
Made the same point, and agree with ya. Those two zones are little relics. They're windows, shards of the past. And I have good memories of playing WoW back then...so in a way, I like them. If I ever retire from the game, I could see Nagrand or Arathi being where I make my final log-off...
Same with Hinterlands. There were less than 10 quests there, and the place was only good for farming Sungrass. But still, I've got fond memories of doing the Zul'Farrak quest that involves going there and killing some level 50 elite mob to get the item to summon the hydra boss, which rewards a really nice blue 1h mace. Or the quest from Booty Bay that has you go all the way to the eastern coast of the zone to collect a quest item...ahh, those ridiculously long-distance fetch quests from vanilla...
I didn't. I found Silithus an ugly desert full of insects.
When i first got to silithus in vanilla there was so little content i didnt even stay for more then 20mins. Looked cool, but from then on EPL was my go to spot for hitting 60
I disagree - Vashj'ir was an amazing zone: Visually stunning, good story, adequate quest efficiency and a nice twist with having to move in 3 dimensions (and no, I never had trouble with that, combat or otherwise). It's only problem is that the majority of wow players are close-minded comfort-junkies that are woefully unappreciative of innovation
Nobody complains about it being innovative, people complain because it was done really poorly. It's developers responsibility to make playtests and make sure that stuff works just right. It's not about doing something cool for the sake of it being cool.
I both love and hate Vashj'ir. I never understood the combat problem - until I lvld a melee alt. Ok, that was a bit annoying. The place is absolutely stunning, tho it wouldve been better cut somewhat down in size. What really really turned me off Vashj'ir to the point of avoiding at any cost - the many many bugs. There were just soooo many bugs, both with various quests and with phasing, making it very difficult to get through the zone without having a GM on standby to fix it, and sometimes just autocomplete a quest, coz they couldnt figure out the problem either.
I recently lvld 1 of the new races, and I decided to give Vashj'ir another try after having literally not been there since Cata. Nope, still as buggy as ever. Blizz apparently found it too difficult to fix, or they just dont give a shit.
Zul'Drak to this day has always been my favorite zone and has the best story in the game IF you actually read the damn quests!
And also the quest chain where you help the Lao break free from their troll captors and the quest chain where you "become" one of the undead scourge is freaking amazing and part of the reason I did this entire zone from start to finish on 5+ alts
yes its actually quite a good zone. idk y is it here
yea zul drak an storm peaks was the best
zul'drak is an amazing leveling place if you're interested in the lore and in the freeing of the loa spirits.
but until you end up at that chain, you're stuck with the "agreed to", endless collect quests from the argent crusade. i once spend two hours waiting for somethign to spawn and the water elementals were an 1/30 chance the item dropped, and you needed a lot. lastly the questline from the ebon hold. oh my goodness i tried that questline, once. i gave up when i completly lost the objective and what i had to do, and the sentinels would just screw your disguise over right in the middle of the elite mobs.
me 2
I remember how impressed I was when I finally got into Blade's Edge Mountains.
What a fucking let down.
Ungoro Crater! I remember there was a quest there where you have to be bitten 20 times by a mod (it was a debuff actually) for you to receive a recolored version of the same shitty mount and the mobs casted that debuff once in a month. Also...roaming giant dinosuars. And dinosaurs everywhere. And shitty quests. And a lot of backtracking. And a lot of ganks. Man i hated that zone...
Visually it was pretty cool though
Crater was awesome. Those giant t-rexes would fuck you up if you were fighting something and didnt pay attention.
Un'Goro Crater is possibly my favorite area! It's visually pleasant, GREAT lore behind it, those fucking epic T-Rex enemies to rock your socks off, and one of my favorite NPC's, Maximillian of Northshire with his quests that had me smiling out loud every time he spoke.
I don't know if the Crater used to be any different (someone tell me this), but I think you should pay it a visit. Atleast just to do Maximillian's quests, you will not regret it.
Honestly, Un'goro, Tanaris and Stranglethorn are my 3 most disliked zones. Dragonblight and Sholazar Basin too.
hildegain Un'Goro, Stranglethorn and Sholazar basin are jungle/thick forest areas, and I can understand if that's not your thing (it is mine tho). But Tanaris... yeah fuck Tanaris
I miss the old thousand needles so much!! Why did you do this blizzard?!
Times change
blame deathwing lol
Play a legacy sever
I liked vash'jir because it was fluid, nice looking, and even the combat.
I played this zone on Nost and wow, it's not what I remember. A lot of the quests in Shimmering Flats are basically just kill wild life till 8/8 of an item drops. The drop % was somewhere around 10-25% and certain mobs like the vultures only spawned in two locations making for quite a lot of competition, especially on a PvP server. Aside from that, there also weren't a lot of quests in the Bluffs area either. I think the only cool quest was killing the Grimtotem as it was pretty scenic. Aside from that, there was nothing really cool about the zone.
Of course, this is just my opinion. I have different tastes and maybe I'm a little biased because it's the zone I had to grind through to get to my favorite classic zone, Tanaris.
I loved Borean Tundra =\
Bakesale59 I mainly liked it because of the gear you could get from the quests, but overall, i LOVE it too.
Bakesale59 yup
that place made my game totally crash, nope...
Bakesale59 I didn't. I leveled through it twice on different toons, and never again. Howling Fjord is just too beautiful, scenic, and well laid out to not level there rather than borean tundra. Of course, this is just my opinion, but I think HF is a much better zone.
Me to
Dude. The PvP on Hellfire Peninsula was the best bit. Easily one of the best zones ever.
It wouldn't be bad if they limited the PvP to something resembling fair; my experiences with Hellfire was bored 100s ganking for shits and giggles. They few times I actually got to PvP others my level, I enjoyed the zone, but without some form of balance it's a leveling nightmare.
Back in BC the world pvp there was incredible
Matthew Martin
then dont level on a PvP server. Its that simple
Camp or be camped!
rule about lvling in hellfire
1. kill or be killed
2. have your main close if you get killed!
What about Searing Gorge, where you can't take 5 steps without aggroing everyone in your range, their grandmothers, the hidden enemies and the entire cast of Over the Hedge, with none of those said mobs are giving you mercy?
Completely disagree on Desolace,
I think it was an beautiful melancholic zone. Its the perfect example of the design differences between old and new WoW. Back then the zones where much more focused on immersion and atmosphere, the questing was secondary. Now Blizzard´s primarily concern in designing new Zones is to make the leveling as effective and streamlined as possible. I don´t say this is inherently bad, its more a thing of preference, what is more importend to you immersion or gameplay. Personally its the main reason WoW lost me. I didn´t have the feeling playing in a World anymore, it feels more like getting navigated through a theme park where I watch different attractions.
Damaglord As you say to each his own. But I think Blizzard's goal when designing zones in Cata was to tell a story in the zone that the player gets to take a part of. If anything, I think that's where the immersion comes in. The only thing it could use is player choice, since it is restricted to one story. Making zones too hard to level is a haphazard design choice to make. On the one hand you'd have a lot of dedication to leveling, which makes it feel like an incredible climb. But now we're at 100 max level, which takes a long time anyway unless you don't have anything to do outside of work.
Damaglord exactly
Bad list. People seem to forget that zones are supposed to be creative, cool and that they should tell a story. It's not about quest efficiency or the zone that grants the most xp. Would you rather just be given the xp, or would you rather be part of an epic story in an aesthetically pleasing zone but level a little slower? You seem to have forgotten the purpose of the game.
Seems like this is the list of zones with the best stories - mostly. I have to agree that they ruined Thousand needles. And about Arathi, which had "too many elites" in the old days: Has that guy ever heard about playing with a friend? And Desolace? it used to have some shitty parts, but I really liked the clan rivalry quests, and the Cata parts are really nice as well.
I couldn't agree more.
I liked Silithus. It was one of the few zones that gave me some sense of adventure and danger. Since there were no quests it felt really lost and worth exploring.
I love Arathi Highlands so much, even in BC.... There was this one cave I found with a red ore that could be mined that i have never seen before and it wasn't even in the smelting list. Now going back it seems it has changed to mithril... Also there was this giant rare elite spawn that I would camp with my mates and all-in-all probably one of my favorite zones!!!
Dread wastes was amazing, loved that place, favorite mop leveling zone, intresting quest chain leading up to heart of fear, the atmosphere, the scary bugs, the Big reveal who the klaxxi actually serves. I loved that place
I'm genuinely surprised Vashj'ir is in this list, it's one of the few zones I'm addicted to.
I swear, first time I went there I heard the main theme from The Little Mermaid in my head.
umm i dont know about the little mermaid comment lol but vashj'ir was actually great its the only place i liked leveling in wow all together idk what he's talking about with the camera view that makes it a hassel to attack monsters.. i was perfectly fine killing below above and all around.
I agree, I also found underwater combat no problem whatsoever.
Joe Carne i think he just like to rationalize whatever he says reguardless of whether its true or not, i think it just makes him feel better, i too have had no problems with combat on a ranged\melee class in Vashj'ir, ive watched several of his videos, and alot of stuff he says in his videos is untrue
I've never been in that zone, but I would sure love to go. It looks beautiful and interesting. And come on. It's an underwater zone! I thought that was creative.
I mentioned a reason why most people may not like the zone in another comment. It has to do with perception. A zone that forces you to orientate yourself by thinking in multiple dimensions, can be incredibly disorienting for people who are use to thinking in linear terms and WoW is intrinsically linear. Not dissing it's design, that is just how it is and a reason why so many people play it, because it is so simple. I like variety myself, so I can go from something taxing on the brain, to something easy and still find it enjoyable.
As a druid in Cata, Vash'jir was one of my fave zones to level through. Back then, I played on a laptop at Low settings. When I finally bought a real gaming PC, I went back to that zone and nearly shit myself because I never knew how beautiful it was. It is definitely one of the most misunderstood zones in the game. TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of other people disliked it just because without Ultra graphics, view distance is minimal and detail is shitty. The left part of the zone is especially the neatest -- it's so mysterious and gives a real dangerous vibe. When I first swam through it, it gave me the chills. It is honestly a real shame the raid was scrapped and that there wasn't much more to the zone. I love it.
i loved hellfire :P everything seemed awesome and bright, and nothing was to hard
untill you got to the area with the ghost knights and ur screens on a wierd leveling angle haah
Cwpan cachu That never irritated me
***** Oh but i do have a life, and i am living it like i want to live it.
isn't that what having a life is?
Hellfire was an ugly colour, which was the biggest issue I had with it. The zones in Outland seemed to be mostly Monochromatic, and hideous because of it. SMV's was largely Black/Lime and Nagrand was Blue/Green, because they had two colours instead of just one, these zones turned out to be some of the better looking in the game. I hope they learned a lesson from this.
I loved HP. The repeatable bombing quest, taking over PvP fortifications, and the Dark Portal opening was awesome.
Zul'Drak was great too
I hated the trolls and I thought I would not like the zone but it was great
@105818205148038784604 1. It only takes 30 extra seconds to write a comment and I usually comment while watching the video.
2. How much time have you been wasting to find all of the videos I have commented on to come to this conclusion.
+Leafyisbeefy who cares it's called comments for a fuckin reason
I've not even tried zul'drak yet :/
It's weird how, conceptually, lots of the zones on here are actually the best. It's just that the quests - or lack of quests - let them down a lot.
Although, conceptually speaking, Desolace is now shit where once it was brilliant. It was made worse by Cataclysm. Like Dolan says in this video, Blizzard don't know what they want the zone to be any more. They should not have caved to the fuck-tards whose complaint was "I DON'T LIKE DESOLACE BECAUSE IT IS TOO DESOLATE". I bet those same people say "I DON'T LIKE FALLOUT BECAUSE IT IS TOO POST-APOCALYPTIC".
You're completely allowed to not like a particular theme, but you should fucking avoid it rather than whining until the story/concept is ruined for everyone else and we get yet another homogenized mutant for a zone.
(lol @ arathi, though.)
When I saw that Silithus was the worst questing zone, the first thing I said in my head was "It's ugly."
Just leveled there to 60 for only 1 level. Even repeating dungeons is more entertaining.
"There should never be a quest in the game you should write down notes for." Someone clearly didn't play his fair share of point-and-click adventure games.
I actually like Silithus...Not the quests but the desert look
Visually Silithus looks great and just due to its aesthetics, it has so much potential for a major-event type of thing revolving around the insect swarms and that alive-looking bone-cave stuff that sticks out. It's just the quests are lame and it's very slow-going. Every time I've been in Silithus, I honestly thought Blizz could easily make better quests there. I think of Starship Troopers and the bugs that always swarm the area, or even the zerg from Blizz's own Starcraft. I just think the place needs to be more infested, and have quests that revolve around that infestation more effectively.
csJereBear Yeah. Atleast it got its own Invasion of the legion.
+Elvalith When was it invaded by the legion?
Phen0Me3n4l In the prepatch were those invasions.
Elvalith It never was invaded by the legion. Legion invaded tanaris, northern barrens, azshara, westfall, dun morogh and hillsbrad.
My mistake when I first played WotLK was listening to everyone else about how they hated Borean Tundra. For some reason I LOVE it! I hate Fjord.
And I loved Vashjr too.
I wish Blizz had gone back and finished Silithus. It has such a wonderful atmosphere and always looked like it could have been made fun if it received the necessary amount of TenderLovingCare.
ally my 80+ charrs have been lvled in borean tundra, one of my favourite and nostalgic zones! :)
Totally agree with everything you said except for the Fjord. The Fjord is amazing.
I freaking loved desolace way back when. it was nice. wide open zone were you could just see for miles. for a hunter on a pvp server, it was a blast because I had the room to kite horde around, or chase down horde for the kill. almost all of the beasts were skinnable, and they were evenly spaced
I`ve never even been to Desolace...
you had me up to the horde-killing bit! D:
Matthew Godden then go play WoW when it was a good game
Rainy Jane I am from stormweaver. it is was a 50/50 pvp high pop server until cata. world pvp was common, AND BRUTAL. it now is like 30% alliance. roll stormweaver if you want to see what real pvp is like. roll alliance and there will be no shortage of horde to kill. the game is still good, I still play it
Nick Harder You mean back when it was still an incomplete pile of bugged shit? Go play on a vanilla private server, you'll be back in a week because you'll realize it was really bad and you just think it was better due to nostalgia.
I disagree entirely. I loved vash jir, as a hunter or range vash jir is great.
i agree, but why would you level as resto...
With Hunters and Warriors and to a lesser extent, Death Knights and Druids, VJ was a superb zone to level in but that only made the balance issues more evident. A lot of other players with other classes saw how great the zone looked, the quests were arguably the most interesting and fun I ever did in the whole of Cataclysm and we actually LOST the main end battle rather than just automatically win the day like the norm, but if you were another caster or a Rogue or anyone with positional requirements like a Feral with anything other than 30-40ms then fighting became shockingly difficult and ever since Malygos 2nd phase, it's clear that a lot of players don't like being jolted into a three dimensional fight because they loose their depth perception.
As a Hunter, I'd say I won a lot of my world pvp fights in the zone purely because of the environment. This leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.
Vash'jir was awesome and had awesome storylines.
When I lvled my DK I hated Vashjir.
Vashjir is amazing as a druid. The freedom of movement that druids get is just heightened even more in an underwater environment.
The Vanilla Barrens....hands down the Barrens. There is no other choice here for #1. Shitty surroundings, shitty quests, shitty dungeons. Quests often required you to trek the entire length of the zone and it had the single most retarded chat by far. Not to mention Mankirk's Wife. I did cast my vote for her as Warchief though........
I liked the barrens but it was just toooooo freaking long, especially after leveling 20 diffrent characters in that zone
*reading this comment then starts crying saying nooooo not my favourite old zone
+Xavier Vega I remember I lvled my taured druid to lvl 15 in mulgore. Mulgore! Before I even knew I could go to the barrens. But since I was a tauren, the first mobs I encountered was lvl 18-20. Needless to say, I got my lvl 15 tauren ass handed to me.
+Xavier Vega Chuck Norris invented Barrens Chat.
There's only one reason why I keep coming back to the Borean Tundra.
Thassarian.
Is there a tooltip that explains who the hell Thassarian is?
Thassarian was a human soldier of the Alliance who died fighting Koltira Deathweaver, a blood elf serving the Horde, and was resurrected alongside him as a death knight of the Scourge. Being a part of the Scourge made Thassarian and Koltira look past their differences and become closer than brothers, and despite still being under the sway of the Lich King- risking death or worse at Arthas' hands- he launched an operation to retrieve Koltira from the Scarlet Crusade after they captured him. And now that the fight against the Lich King is over, Thassarian and Koltira serve the Alliance and Horde once again, fighting against each other despite being the only family they really have.
Thassarian's story arc in the Borean Tundra takes place directly after the Battle of Light's Hope Chapel. Both the Death Knight starting questline and arc in the Borean Tundra are worth watching for that.
Why is XP the most important thing? Why doesn't having fun take priority?
7. The reason there weren't many quests in the Arathi Highlands, or in vanilla leveling in general, is because you weren't supposed to stay in the same zone! Do arathi for a couple of levels, go somewhere else, come back when your high enough. SO SIMPLE!
6. How can you say the quest zone was bad when it was really just the players? And also, I must say... the Horde stopping the alliance or vice versa from making progress? HOW RIDICULOUS! WARRING FACTIONS ALWAYS LET EACH OTHER MAKE ADVANCEMENTS!
2. Blades Edge was bad questing, but I loved it because It had an interesting story. No notes? God forbid we have to DO something!
1. Well we just have different opinions, I loved silithus, I loved the Lore, the quests, the mobs, aesthetic, the music, and most of all: opening of the gates. IMO the fact that it was empty at first was great, because it made the world feel less static. Think about it, in the beginning the Cenarion Circle was just investigating with a few druids dispatched to observe. Things started getting worse in silithus so the druids called on their order for help. The Circle set up a camp and called upon the world's adventurers to help stem the growing influence of the old god C'Thun, and eventually to raid his lair and topple his would be empire.
That right there is an epic story worthy of any great game.
Oh god I remember Silithus xD I was "leveling" ther with my very first WoW Char and I hated it ^^ I ran out if quests very fast and because I didn't knew it better I just grinded my way through the Zone for hours. I was so happy when I was done with Silithus and I never returned to this hellhole since 2010.
Same... Hellhole of bugs BOI
i remember having to grind here and eastern plaguelands and just totally being out of quests at level 56.
Haha and no matter how carful I was, I always pulled ever fucking bug in those dam hives!! 😂
Kai Ludwig hope you enjoy new quests in silithus
Welcome back
I thought Arathi Highlands was pretty great...
+Christian Andersen I like it to.
+louis cartman well in vanilla sucked
+Vali Rusev
I leveled there in Vanilla and BC and I liked it ._.
there were like 10 quests and half of them were elite. I simply couldn't do anything there cuz no one wanted to do this area.
Christian Andersen it is great. Just not for people like DD who want to power level through all the content. I live the zone. But I also enjoy leveling.
Stranglethorn, the worst zone in the history of Warcraft, it sucked before Cata, as well as after it. So many fucking beasts. It sucks balls. It even sucks balls even more on pvp servers.
Stranglethorn is one of my top 10... lol
Trolling? STV vanilla was hot shit! It's not even all that bad now, just feels less epic.
Chris B I love STV! So many good memories from there. The area is just fun because it is, or at least was, so divorced from the story taking place in the rest of the game world.
GeorgeMonet I only hate it for the god damn page collecting quests back in the day. Fuck that shit. The rest I like and going there on a hunter is like waking up on Christmas morning.
TeamOmega27^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
all of pandaria worst and amazingly boring.
Nah, they are well designed and funny. Maybe you're referring to another game or x-pac.
i think you're thinking of the dungeon/raid content, not the levelling zones :P
I think most of Pandaria's zones, while funny at times, were a bit boring. And I actually really like the raiding content. Except LFR. Fuck that noise
i have a love and hate relationship with pandaria.
when i was lvling in pandaria i got the feeling that everything was filled with secrets, and rare mobs and thats good, but than i get the feeling that i wont find them.
jade forest and thunder isle was ok the rest was quit the bore.
The Draenei City. I know it's not a continent but FUCK let me use a mount in that place, I don't wanna have to climb all the way up some stupid flat spiral staircase just to get out all the time. Oh also the Draenei starting area sucked too.
Gabuman you've obviously never played Horde. The ONLY city that doesn't have some bullshit elevator system (just as bad as that spiral, trust me,) is Silvermoon.
I've been around since before BC
I've been Horde, dude.
Gabuman I'm just giving you a hard time dude, lol. That spiral staircase really does suck...
They should put in an elevator! ;)
Awww Vash'jir is my 2nd fav place, being underwater, trapped, finding your way out, surviving in the depths was a thrill. Only confusing thing was the ending. Like, stopped right there? What? So I swim up in the surface and just leave. Huh
I loved Arathi Basin when I was levelling. The music and atmosphere were great and always remind me of lazy Sunday afternoons when Sunday roast is in the oven. I'd play this in between cooking. Silithus ain't that bad either. I spent days there, killing Twilight Cultists (which I spelled with an N not an L) to gain rep. No place in WoW is truly bad - it's what you make of it.
I do really really like this comment. And not just because I have similar memories of Arathi.
It really is what you make of it, Dark Lady...
I like Hellfire..the starting quests were pretty close to town.
Know what I think is the real unfinished waste? Original Ashzara. A beautiful zone with absolutely nothing in it.. now its revamped and it's ugly as sin and still a shitty leveling zone.
Silithus wasn't all bad when it neared the end of vanilla. From a lore perspective I think it is really cool, and some of the quests weren't that bad, but yeah.. most of the players doing stuff in Silithus were the players that really had nothing else to do while waiting for Blackwing Lair or AQ40 to start hehe.
YEAH....back in Vanilla....i loved Azshara. I would sometimes go there after or before raid just to kill some mobs, relax and be sure that nobody is going to disturb me. Best zone ever. And as a hordie, just behind the backdoor of OG. Lovely.
Exactly this! I'd just hang around near the statues by the shore, chill and kill some nagas.
One word: Goblins.
Nickcronomicon
Same! Actually I spent a lot of time in Vanilla Wow just hanging around chilling in some beautiful areas. And I spent lots of time exploring and riding to get there.
Nowadays everybody just teleports to the dungeons and back.
I loved Arathi, and I actually even enjoyed Desolace (as Alliance), it seemed so mysterious with some strange ancient Night Elf towers at the coast and myteries of what happened there.
Vash'jir till today is still my favourite zone for questing, i love every part of it and honestly create new chars all the time just to go through all quests here. Music and art is amazing
I partially agree with this list: many of the areas are underwhelming grind-fests, slowing aquatic levels, or extermination zones. On the other hand, killing entire generations of silithid, ogres, cultists, and trophy creatures gives certain classes and trades some huge advantages; namely, any Mage/Warlock/Priest with Tailoring who's looking for cloth or Hunters with Skinning/Leatherworking trade combination (the Borean Tundra and Silithus were both paradise lands for Hunters).
At least before they removed Silithid Chitin from the game, but left Nerubian Chitin in for those who trolled Naxxramas.
Brandon Hatch The problem here isn't that the zones are useless for grinding things (Silithus is the Cenarion Circle reputation farming center of choice), its when you get there when LEVELING that the horror truly shows up.
Verunme The trouble is that I went everywhere, with every character, to level them up to the current maximum. This would include the faction's starting areas, so I could take a break from level-appropriate questing and work on the achievements.
'the slow aquatic level' was the place where i farmed 10+ k worth of leather for my leathercrafting hunter in te shortest time ever
it was the only time i really farmed at all, i got rich after that
Simon Robeyns Not surprising, the Naga can be skinned.
I liked Silithus, if only because the Swarming Pillar looks insanely cool
Definetly the pillar looked AWESOME in fact that's only why I came there xD
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this is why we cant have nice things
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So ... did you like Silithus as a levelling zone or not?
completely agree :) i loved it back in vanilla and always wanted to ding 60 there. was so happy when i finally got my first 60 there that i will always love it ;)
Hannah McGuigan Silithus and the surounding zones like Tanaris were really cool because of all those Pillars and the underlying theme in that area of Kalimdor
Almost all of these locations were my favorites!
I love all of them, except for hellfire. i also dont like durotar or any orcish place
I only agree with half of them. Stranglethorn deserves a place in here... Endless quests like : kill 15 young tigers. Followed up by : kill 15 tigers. Followed up by : kill 15 mature tigers. Followed up by : kill 15 old tigers. And do this for panthers (which were stealthy), crocodiles and raptors too. And in vanilla you wouldn't have a mount yet, the only flightpaths were in booty bay and rebel camp (for alliance) so you had to do it on foot and the distances were huge (stv was 1 zone back then).
And the worst part was that it was hell on pvp servers and there were only 2 graveyards in the zone, you died 4 or 5 times a quest bc of corpsecamping lvl 60s (which probably got their ass kicked by equal lvls, so they kill low lvls out of frustration). And everytime you died you had to run up to 8 min to reach your body, just to respawn and get killed 20 meters further again. A single quest could take hours. My nr 1 in vanilla times.
I really disliked badlands too for the same reason as desolace, too empty, too boring. You can include blasted lands too for these reasons.
Icecrown was just a huge place with flat fields that were really overcrowded and buggy quests. The parts on the walls were/looked all the same and sucked. It was no fun at all. Somehow I dislike the troll temple parts of zones too, troll stuff just doesn't grind my gears.
Vasj'ir was ok in my opinion, not the best, but certainly not in the top 10 worst zones. The same for Borean Tundra, it isn't bad when not overcrowded.
+Spoony Spooner
On the contrary, I'm willing to say that STV is the best zone in the game. Back in the day it was your first introduction to the 'real' WoW, you weren't a newbie anymore. The hunting quests ( which were actually 30 instead of 15 ) were a challenge in itself, and thus it felt much more than just a grindfest. It was the first place where you really felt and experienced the danger of the opposite faction, and the concept of a jungle for that scenario is just darn well perfect.
Hunting animals, slaying trolls, beating Alliance, beautiful scenery, voodoo, pirates. In the jungle. Man, what's not to love?
Hellfire Peninsula is awesome!
"Unless you are a rebel."
Haha, next time I try and pick up girls, I'm gonna tell them I like questing in Silithus and then bolt off on my moped.
Vashj'ir was one of my fave but I get why some-people would dislike it
Same. And as a lore-heavy and awesome-looking place, I loved Silithus. Then I tried to level there...Insanely fast mob respawns, overly dense enemy placement, but the same kind of an enemy was often kept hundreds of yards away from another of it's kind. And ofcourse... THE GOD-AWFUL Vanilla Twilight's Hammer quests still left in for random reasons (probably so you can still do the Openeing of Ahn'Qiraj event, even though it will reward nothing).
I really liked Desolace. One of my favorite old world areas.
i'm with you, i also really liked it!
yeah i used to sit and listen to the wind, very calm zone.
now it's ruined with flowers and shit
The Conservative Cat agreed.
Hellfire Peninsula sucks! It is so boring to quest there. I like the lore about it but the zone just kills my mood to want to quest there.
Outland was terrible itself
i as a pvpler really cant understand your problems. i loved hellfire; you gained XP incredible fast AND got to kill a lots, lots of players in open pvp, which is one of my favourite parts of the game after all. nuff said, but ok, when you are mainly a pve focused player you may not share my opinion
Covodex im a pvper too. I hate it because there are way too many quest that are not worth your time. I believe it is level 58- 63 which is not a big gap. Its to much for such a little level gap.
Christian Syndrome I hated most of outland, but hellfire and netherstorm particularly. They're bland and boring, everything is so far apart and the colour schemes make me want to kill myself.
Am I the only one who lucked hellfire????
I disagree with 8 out of 10. Many of your reasons for not not liking these zones are rubbish.
thats what i said, Zul'Drak was AWSOME!!!
Thats because its impossible to find a completely awful zone in wow,its such a good game
He looked at the zones regarding leveling, hence the title of the video.
Wlarius And i didnt find anything bad in leveling there, the quest where really interesting even the dailys where nicely done.
"The meal was cold when it was served." So what?
See the meaning?
SPOILER: lots of reading ahead!
10: you're kinda right although i liked the idea of a personal ship that you could use to dart around the zone and to me it feels like they made good use of the landscape and the fact that most areas are now uninhabitable is displayed by the quests pretty well imo
9: maybe thats just the nostalgic talking in me but except for the gnome quests in the north i really liked borean thundra and its still my go to place whenever i reach 68 on a toon
8: i do agree with the position in the list but to me its the exact opposite to your reasons. even tho the aestethics were fitting it made me not want to spend any time in this zone, but the only redeeming factor were the ghoul quests that, while tedious, had a nice idea behind it, you infiltrate the enemy operations and learn about the scourges plan, whilst sobataging the very same.
7. i agree on arathi highlands theyre kinda eeeh even now theres nothing to do there.
6: this is probably the nostalgic speaking in me but when i first entered the hellfire peninsula and turned around to see that giant portal i just came through along with the music, it made me feel incredibly small. i loved the scale of the zone and the scarceness of quests can easily be justified be the barren style they were going for. there's a reason its a HELLFIRE peninsula after all
5: i agree on dread wastes, i can see the zergy style they were going for but it doesnt really benefit the gameplay in any way other than inflated spirit healer runs. again the aestethics while pleasing left me trying to avaid the zone as much as possible
4: this is a very difficult one. vashj'ir didn't necessarily "fail" its just that it split the playerbase between the people who hated it and the ones who absolutely loved it (including me). the problem was that noone believed these people and called them out on being trolls, regarding the zone i found the underwater combat was a little annoying but tolerable, i have seen much worse in other games. the storyline was absolutely amazing and i lved every single quest, from the quite...eventful...entrance to the epic conclusion near the abyssal breach. the aestethics were very peasing and the mount was a very smart solution for blizz to fix the problem of scale. at least it makes me happy this is noth on no1 ;D
3: i agree on this one. i recently did it on an alt for my loremaster achievement and it was horrible, i was so happy when i was finally done. again i can see what they went for but it didn't quite hit the mark.
2: i havent done this one yet, mostly because everyone told me it was crappy so i never had the motivation to do it, so i will just keep out of this discussion point.
1: oh god yes this zone was horrible. they could have used it in classic as a massive hub to prepare for ahn quirai and they kinda did it with the opening event, which also ended up not being as successful as they imagined (i want it back D:) when i did it in cata i was suprised why i got the achievement half way in but then realized "nope, they just stopped here, this is the end" cutting off a questline like that....not a fan of it
Oh god, Arathi, yes. I still remember the first character I got to 20-something in vanilla was an undead priest and I wasn't sure where to go next. I can't remember how I ended up there but I ran myself into Arathi and was trying to do those quests. They were sooooo bad. Had to avoid mobs that were 10 levels higher than me as well as an Alliance town that you could easily just fall into for an instant death. On top of that I was on a PvP realm as a priest so I got ganked pretty often. Dear God. Soooo glad Blizzard made it so you can just mouse over zones on the map now and see their level.
Silithus is like the coolest-looking zone in the whole game...
Vashj'ir as a boomkin + glyph of super fast aqua form = a happy player.
disturbs me... Hellfire has blue sky when it should have red, and borean tundra and arathi have red sky insted of blue.... the hell?
Ever heard of WoW editing?... .mpq files?
..WoW model viewer?
Šimon Honal Yes. but they just look idiotic
***** You, my troll friend, should get a life.
i threw a wizard in those places he messed with the sky
Hmm looks like you and me have polar opposite opinions. For instance, I really liked Silithus. I liked the color shemes, the desert like feel and I liked the Qiray. Yeah there wern't that many quests, but I sometimes go there anyway. The only bad thing that makes it a bad leveling zone is the long way you have to travel to actually get there.
I also liked Vashir. It felt new and refreshing. It was maybe a bit too big, yes, but I generally enjoyed questing there. Blizzard shot themselves in their own foot, however, by making Hyjal questing mandatory to Fireland Dailies. No one ever quested in vashir since you'd have to do Hyjal anyway for Fireland quests. It was such a shame. Why do you think that "people" (sounds like more than just two) disliked Vashir?
Hellfire Peninsula is one of my favorite zones. I always looking forward to quest there on new toons and stay there as long as possible. There are plenty of quests there, different enemies, at least two worldbosses and a PVP area.
It seems you base the value of a zone on its appeal at launchday... Every first zone of an Xpac had a crowded feeling, but that doesn't dimish the quality of a zone itself. I also prefer Borean Tundra over Howling Fjord. The quests and especially the music annoys me quite a bit.
I do agree on Blade Edge Mountain, Arathi and Zul Drak, though.
So here are my thoughts: I loved hellfire peninsula. Matter of fact it could be one of my favorite leveling spots. I always look forward to that place. Maybe I just had a great time the very first time and the nostalgia keeps me in love. I also have some very fond memories of arathi highlands. (I guess I love wide open spaces. Could be why I like hellfire peninsula and yes even DESOLACE!) I also leveled in silithus once and enjoyed it. Remote, barren land with virtually nobody around. Maybe I'm just a hardcore loner at heart ;)
Ha! I was thinking the same thing, I was shocked when he said Desolace, Hellfire, Arathi, and Silithus, i loved those zones! :D
Un'Goro crater
My worst leveling zone
Endless dinosaurs everywhere you look,boring quest to collect crystals,boring quest to kill dinosaurs,boring quest to kill gorillas,boring quest to kill raptors,it all looks the same except one little mountain with fire elementals (whitch is also boring)
The two good things about it were Maximilian of Northshire and the last quest where you get to play as some of the animals but then after you complete it it doesn't let you anymore
Man, I just realized I have very unpopular tastes.
Silithus was a lousy leveling zone, but it themed around Ahn'Quiraj so well, I consider it to not be a leveling zone, much like Deadwind Pass.
Alternatively I hated most of TBC's zones. While some were neat, they felt so.... color coded.
Hellfire - Red
Zangarmarsh - Blue
Nagrand - Green
Netherstorm - Purple
etc
Not a good way to design imo
i enjoyed silithus as well, it was just a huge grinding zone. the opening of the gates of AQ, killing thousands upon thousands of insects. I enjoyed the opening of AQ it was the one time when horde and alliance had to work together even on a PVP server. Ah vanilla WoW, the days when it was great.
Borean Tundra was one of my favourite leveling zones =O
But I really love Borean Tundra...
Me too!
Same!
Same here!
Me too.
Too horde-centric.... alliance questing in some of these zones is very good.
How is zangamarsh not on this list? :o
a lot of people love zangarmarsh, including me lol
because giant mushrooms
Zangermarsh was so incredibly awsome purely for the fact that it wasn't hellfire :) also it was [enter generic drug joke here]
I personally think that all of Outlands was a pain in the ass :P
Rainbow Dash WTF! Nagrand is in outland!!!
Now that warlords of Draenor is out, I'd vote to add Spires of Arak in this countdown
I think Spires of Arak is worse than Silithus in my opinion. All the other WoD Zones were AWESOME!
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at least there are quests there
Although it isn't the most enjoyable, it is the fastest way to level with the 20% xp building. It is also better because of Heirlooms scaling to 100...All-in-all, I don't like it but I get through it just to level faster :P
lapstatsFor some reason, I enjoy Spires of Arak. I liked learning more about the Arrakoa, and how you got to fight with Anzu against Hakkar or what's-his-name. It felt like you were really participating with the story and that you were of a high enough status to even be noticed by these deities, unlike other WoD zones. Dont get me wrong, I still love the whole "continent" of Draenor, I just found SoA the most memorable (I can barely remember the questlines from the other zones, which is saying something). Though, I must admit, the arid landscape did get a boring.
I hate EVERYTHING in BC. Out of Nagrand. Nagrand was done correctly
yup,once Nagrand was done and you were getting steered towards Blades Edge...ugh
bloodsling Killing ogres was the thing you did most.
Moritz Kupsch was there anything else you did there? I seem to remember killing a tree once,and then t'was back to the oceans of ogres.
I would have to agree with you there. I went back to WoW a few months ago planning to hit level cap on a new character; the BC content took all the fun out of it and I was done once I got to Vash'Jir. One thing I hate the most is how they throw so many people into zones now; I sat in Nagrand for hours waiting on bosses to respawn just for a hunter to throw traps on the spawn.
I agree with you. I rush from level 58 to level 64 and stay at nagrand until 68
Hellfire Peninsula was literally the best zone ever.. It brought a different world feeling especially when you could see the many colorful planets, and the quests and experience were sooo sooo fulfilling as well as the really really great dropped and reward items!
BOREAN TUNDRA ROCKS!
VASHJIR ROCKS AS WELL
I prefer Howling Fjord, but to each his own.
SentientGravy i prefered HF too, but BT was great for you alt
Vashj'ir was amazing. Just my 2 cents.
I hate zangarmarsh so much
Brown Cow Me too, but it does have some cool looking Mobs.
It does, but I still hate it
Brown Cow I frankly enjoyed Zangarmash not sure why but i just enjoyed the zone
Lincoln Rayes what is your least fave dungeon? mine is dire maul ( particularly the gordok commons)
Brown Cow i think i hated it because i played on a high pop pvp server
This whole list seems to be "Fuck you, I liked it." Silithus was a nice area. I just remember leveling there with my dwarf hunter back in the day.
I can understand all of them, but I liked Borean Tundra, Hellfire Peninsula, and Blades Edge Mountain's quests. But, that's just me.
Same. I love all of Outlands. Great feel to it. Then again, I also liked Zul'drak, Dread Wastes and Vash'jir
***** the only bc zones I liked was the end of hellfire, Terokkar and Nagrand
the only thing i liked about borean tundra was the quest with the death knight. Amd call me crazy, but i loved silithus, because no one was ever there, and it had nice xp in my opinion
devilkapper yeah people in my guild called me crazy for spending so much time in Silithus but I really enjoyed that place. Was also the richest player in the guild thanks to my time there, got so much Dreamfoil, Black Lotus, Mountain Silversage (i think it was called?) and lots and lots of those texts you farmed for rep as well as sets for summoning =) I ended vanilla with close to 10k gold.
Mathias Erichsen
now if i recall, Essence of Air is the thing now. I got bags and bags full of it and i placed it in the AH on proudmoore. made about 9k gold from auctioning all of it.
Silithus was awesome and very easy, except the caves, screw them.
Mathias Erichsen Holy shit!! I remember feeling like a baller just because i had the 100 gold for my mount back then... You were straight Donald Trumpin back then
Borean Tundra and Hellfire Peninsula were awesome.
Arathi Highlands was pretty awesome back in the day. It's boring now because it's so faceroll easy. One of my best memories of when I was leveling my first main was Fozruk. He used to be elite back then, and he hit like a truck! He would travel around the zone, and he had three adds. Trying to take him on by yourself was like taking on a mini-boss. It took three people to take him down. I died to him so many times, and I was determined to take him solo. I finally got him when I had out leveled him. The zone is only boring now because you finish the quests and move on. But back then you were in the zone for a while.
I can't understand the mentality of people who complain that "zones are too easy now compared to Vanilla and BC," but then they turn around and COMPLAIN about the old world elites being "too hard."
ATTN! The old world elites are one of the things that made the world hard back then! They're one of the things I really miss today. And it was moronic for Buzzard to get rid of them, because with heirlooms those old elites would still not be a challenge today.
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I don't see why people don't like Vash'jir. It's fine. But how is hellfire peninsula not #1? Fuck that place.
I loved Borean Tundra, I don't understand what people have against it.
It's ugly, really ugly, and the mobs are too close but the big quest lines are actually pretty nice.
Arathi Highlands, both vanilla and now, is amazing. For some reasons i always loved questing there, especially in that old Castle ruins..
I dunno why but I prefer Borean Tundra to Howling Fjord.