Looking for a laptop for college and the g15 definitely looks like the way to go with the better portability, better battery life, and better silent mode
Thanks for the hard word in putting this together. It was a tough call and I was more inclined to purchase G15. However, didn't want to spend more on a gaming monitor as I already have a 24" old monitor for office stuff. Will not be carrying it everyday and mux was important. Hence went for L5 Pro.
I was actually buying one of those two, hated how look the lenovo and felt but considered because of the Wattage and the mux switch, this video really helped me. Went fot the g15 of course.
@@cballoss12 Got it! Changed RAM and - i like it! Its loud.........yes, LOUD, but handle games +/- okey! I better prefer 1080p screen than 2K, because you got worst FPS and verrrry small letters when 100% resolution scale is set. 🥺 That 2K screen is waste or power for gamers..but for work its excellent screen!
because I paid electricity now, I think I'm okay with missing some FPS while using like 30-40% less watt. thank you for this comparison, I believe Legion 5 Pro have more potential, but at least even the lower watt still decent for my use case.
Wow, just the review I was looking for. I have been on the fence between these both models and I almost went with the Legion Pro because of the RAM upgrade to run in dual channel. But after seeing this video and how much detail you go into every key aspect of a gaming laptop, you helped me pull the trigger on the Asus G15 3070. I went with the 24GB RAM option as I don't do much development and I'm a casual gamer. I really like the aesthetics of it as well. My only gripe is the lack of webcam, but if needed I can throw one on top of my 34" monitor. An awesome review and subscribed!
@@rawevoli this is incorrect. It will run in dual channel up until 16gb is utilized then everything after that will run in single. Check Jarrod’s Tech channel, his new ram video even shows how 24gb can perform very well. Since making this video my G15 now has 24gb of ram and it has only increased performance.
@@rawevoli No kidding! That’s kinda the goal with my channel is to help clear up some of the misinformation out there on stuff like wattage, ram, etc. I have a few good videos in the works on stuff like that.
just bought the asus g15 3060 version from best buy. got it on sale 620$ off. looking up videos for the laptop, and came across your videos. great content and info. Thanks man. def subbing
Great video, I can see you put lots of effort on the editing for a first try. I agree with most of what you said but a few things I disagree. I think both laptops are neck and neck and if you can get one for even $200 less it should be enough. There are big wins for each device so I think its not that one is better, its about personal preference. Legion 5 pro Pros: Bigger, brighter, higher res, overall BETTER display 140w 3070, more performance potential with updates & tweaks Both ram sticks user upgradeable HDMI 2.1 & MUX switch Biggest cons: Device not refined liker Asus, Razer. Poor battery optimisation. No face login or fingerprint. Asus Zephyrus G15 Pros: More compact/ refined build Better keyboard and trackpad Better battery life Biggest cons: NO webcam, no HDMi 2.1, no MUX.
Yeah, honestly I’d pay $200 more for the more premium features of the Zephyrus but that’s just me. But yes beyond that, I’d take either one for the right price, as they’re both amazing. Honestly the biggest disappointment for me with the Legion was the 140W 3070. It just didn’t give that much of a performance boost (but who knows if it gets tweaked in the future?). But the mux switch is awesome! I really wish the G15 had one. If I only planned to keep my laptop in one spot the majority of the time then the Legion is a great choice.
I'm loving this g15. Best sounding speakers I've ever heard on a laptop. Best screen I've seen. Most quite I've experienced. Can run AAA titles no problem. Great build quality and looks so much better in person. To me it seems like the most bang for your buck. Amazing machine
@@bruin098 When gaming, every gaming laptop is a bit loud, this one is just quieter than most. Switching over to Performance mode instead of Turbo in Armoury Crate will lower the fans a bit when gaming. Disabling turbo boost (registry edit) will lower fans even more when gaming with very little sacrifice to performance. When idle or doing basic tasks, make sure you’re on silent mode, turbo boost is disabled, and preferably iGPU mode is on so the dGPU isn’t trying to run everything. This will keep the laptop virtually silent. If you need to, you can set a fan curve and power limits in manual mode to fine tune things even more.
I love how you stayed true to your believes and knowledge instead of misleading some viewers like myself who doesn’t know too much about all the terminology of a computer. I ordered a Z15 yesterday so I can’t wait to play on it soon!
Props for the editing skills! I own a g15 2021 and my room mate has the 2020 macbook pro 16. I would rate speakers on the macbook are a 10/10 and g15 a 7.5/10 . Macbook is so much louder and clearer!
Interesting comparison. My L5Pro performs slightly better than yours, with 88fps in SOTTR at 1600p and 94fps at 1440p, but mine came with 32GB of the faster RAM. With faster RAM the CPU score of the L5Pro in Timespy should be closer to 10.000 instead of 9.000. It is fascinating that the Zephyrus g15 performs so well with a lower Watt 3070. If priced similarly the G15 could be the one to get, that power brick of the L5Pro really is chunky. I do like the bright 16:10 screen though, and the soldered RAM of the G15 is a big turnoff. I think you are mainly lucky that you can get the Zephyrus G15 for a good price. As stated by others, a Zephyrus G15 with the same specs as my l5Pro costs about €400,- more.
@@tanjl6683 try and experienced it, I had Lenovo Legion pro but I gaved to my little bro because it was outperformed by predator 2021 model, Legion L5 pro is good only in definition but the performance is not performing as what the specs should be.
@@hungout007shinobi9 it has been proven by many reviewers like jarrods tech that the legion is one of the best performing, if not the best performing 3070 that he has tested. and the predator was one of the worst, even behind the hp omen 3070
That zephyrus is beautiful! I think I would spend more for it. The Legion just looks good too, but not as premium as the Zephyrus. I opted for a cheaper gaming laptop last time and regretted it shortly. I would rather sacrifice a bit of power for a nicer build.
Nice and very helpful review (some parts a little too detailed, but I could see how some people could like that). Certainly can’t understand how this video got 300+ dislikes. If I had to give one reason that I will probably wind up getting the G15, it would be this video.
Yeah a lot of reviewers skip out on the little details but that’s what I care about most lol 😂 Thank you so much for watching, glad you enjoyed it! Hope you enjoy the G15 if you end up getting it!
i'm a dekstop gamer but if i were to choose between g15 and 5 pro i'll go for g15 5-10 frames just doesn't matter battery life and form factor is a huge factor for a laptop
Great review ! Helped me pull the trigger on the L5pro. The power connector on the side in the middle is just awful. I like the 16:10 for the non gaming stuff I do. Trackpad i don’t care been using Bluetooth mice since they’ve existed. Not too sure how anyone buys a gaming laptop and cares about a trackpad but that’s just the reality of how we all have different needs and tastes. The fans blowing on the screen eek But I will say that other one has a clean look with rounded corners. Personally there isn’t much besides the rounded corners that appeals to me about that other one. Good to know I can ignore anything else I see about them in the future ! 👍🏼
Glad it helped! Yeah, if you never use the trackpad then I totally get it. And you're exactly right. It's our different preferences that make the decision, not that one laptop is significantly better than the other.
@@JoshCravesTech 💯 just personal preference. I’m an Alienware guy through and through (had about 30 of them over the past 15 years or so) just sold my 18 r3 that I lugged into work every day for the past 2 years so as you could imagine a big power brick isn’t going to faze me 😅. But, I did order a slim Lenovo 230w charger for the L5p and I’ll leave the 300w brick at home. It was going to be an x17 but I’m holding out for the 12th gen cpus and possibly 3070 supers that might still have the slim adapters and then I’ll order that up with the 4k 120 screen. Fingers crossed for 16:10 in the r2 🤞🏼 Until then the L5p will get it done. Forgot to mention the look of the L5p cracked me up in your video 😂. I have to agree it’s not exactly styling. Sadly it looks better on the outside but then again that also factors in to many peoples decision (looking at anyone who’s ever got an Alienware lol).
@@5abivt Lol, nice!! Good call on the 230w power brick. Yeah the x17 is an absolute monster of a machine. Wish I had one to review, it’s probably my favorite thing Alienware has put out in a while, but I agree, I’m also waiting to see what we get with 12th gen.
I think the Legion 5Pro is a great machine, i personally love the 16:10 aspect ratio, but i could not stand that off center trackpad and the sheer weight of this machine and power brick. I recently just purchased the g15 with the 3070 from best buy during the sale for $300 bucks off the tag and i couldn't be happier. Been waiting to get my hands on this machine for over 6 months and its an absolute delight. Great work on your comparison I feel like it shed a lot of light for many of us looking for a proper machine for work and play. - 3D Arist and Game Programmer
Thank you so much for putting this much effort into making this video; super helpful. I'm sure that your channel will grow soon. And please make a video about M16.
The temps in the video are with turbo boost still enabled on both machines. I just wanted to show them at full power, but yes you can further lower temps by disabling boost!
Wow man! Very good review! I have been searching for a good review for quite a long time but all of them missed the mux switch point so there was no comparison with the mux. Now my doubts have been cleared. I think I'll go for the g15 (If I can find one that is). And just one more thing, is the g15 made fully out of metal(lid and body) or is it just the lid that is made out of metal?
Thank you!! The entire body is a magnesium alloy, it doesn’t feel quite as heavy duty as the aluminum on the L5P’s lid but it feels much sturdier than the L5P’s plastic keyboard deck. It’s like a nice plastic/metal hybrid.
I noticed that your legion 5 pro RTX 3070 clocks at 1500Mhz+ despite drawing 130W plus. That is not normal as the clocks should have been around 1600Mhz-1700Mhz+. That would have explained why the performance of both legion & G15 are almost identical. Maybe driver issues?
I think it’s because I was standing still in those spots? Look at 27:50. That’s more in line with how my Legion 5 Pro actually ran during benchmarks and when I was collecting averages from gameplay. It ran around 1600-1700 majority of the time sometimes 1800Mhz. Sometimes it did dip into that 1500 range but maybe that’s just because there weren’t a ton of different frames to process and it was giving room to the CPU to clock higher. Wattage was still high though and if you compare my fps to Jarrod’s Tech it still outperforms his Legion 5 Pro even after he replaced the ram, so it should be in line with how the average L5P performs. I also compared my results to benchmarks from others on Reddit and Discord just to make sure my unit wasn’t messed up or anything.
Great video man. I am nowhere near a pro vid creator but if only you have a settle background music playing so that whenever you hit meme points you can stop the music making the meme more appealing. Good job man
The Legion 5 Pro is almost the perfect laptop. All it has to do is have the same centered keyboard, better keys, glass trackpad, SMALLER POWER BRICK FFS and chic design that’s in the Asus. I’m gonna be using it a bunch for coding on the go, so I need nice keys. I HATE that only the Asus offers these features. Cringe. Also, I like your style of videos Josh. Funny and informative.
After using lenovo y520 legion .. I can truly say that usage of cheap materials & lower battery standby without charger plugged in . . seriously have made me look into other alternatives. Personally lenovo has come into limelight after ThinkPad and gaming legion series but I feel there may be superior brands out there who can give them a good competition ..
@@Havanu81 that’s crazy. In the US at Best Buy, the G15 is cheaper than what the Legion 5 Pro usually goes for and the G15 will go on sale sometimes for even cheaper. Is it all Asus gaming laptops there? How about the Strix G15?
I had both and returned G15 because of the build quality, fan whistle and horrible backlight bleeding. The only thing that bothers me on L5P is the fan noise, but thankfully it's not that annoying as on G15. Everything else is great.
Build quality is phenomenal on the G15. It's as close to MacBook tier as you'll get on a gaming laptop. Either you got a bad unit or the Legion police are out in force stronggg.
@@Later_Nerd Well, it felt like cheap plastic, made creaking sounds when picked up, had a very big gap between the screen and the keyboard on one side when closed and the bottom of the display frame wasn't even glued properly. Too many issues for one bad unit. I was ready to look past all that if not for the fan whistle. In general, yes, it looks great, but it's still a Windows laptop so the quality is meh.
@@benjaminabel I wonder if you were using a previous generation unit or something. Just did a once over and there's very very little flex. No squeaks or anything that says low quality. I deal with MacBooks all the time for work and they are nicer but it's marginal. Not trying to be a fanboy or whatever I'm just surprised the build quality was brought into question because that's one of it's stand out features in my eyes.
@@polobear7282 There are few posts on Reddit and ASUS forum about it. The problem is that it usually gets into the "coil while" category. And I believe it's the same on every unit. Some people just can't hear it. You can just search for any video where you can hear the fan noise (usually some benchmark videos), put your volume all the way up and you'll hear it for sure.
I would have completely got the g15 if I was using an external monitor I just really hate the vent design on the back all the heat literally vents right onto the screen and that is my biggest complaint they should have elevated the screen like Acer did with the Triton 500 SE. In the end I wound up getting the legion 5 pro with an rtx 3070 on sale for 1,298. The legion also has an on-site repair process to where they send a tech to your house to fix any issues you may have and it does cover accidental damage. Kind of a biggy
Yeah, I don’t mind the vents there cause I love the low profile design and I haven’t personally seen any issues caused by it or with other laptops that have that same vent design. At least not without some other qc issue that caused it. But that’s a GREAT deal on the Legion 5 Pro, nice purchase! And yes their support options are super affordable and nice!
@@JoshCravesTech My buddy had the M16 which is a similar design to the g15. He always used the laptop screen. Gamed on it daily. The vents venting heat onto the screen heated up the screen and caused HORRIBLE backlight bleed. He got best buy to make an exception and let him return it anyway. He got the MSI GS76 Stealth instead. Sadly unlike the g15 the screen is not elevated onto the m16. There is no screen chin on the m16. So the heat vents right onto the screen. Pretty big design flaw IMO
@@CWWJR I’ve never actually seen any laptops with that design (many other manufacturers do that by the way) such as the M16 have that happen. It may have been another underlying issue for your friend, although I can’t say for sure. People on Reddit have even tested it by straight up mining crypto at max power and fans for weeks straight without turning it off (on the M16) and no issues occurred with the screen or anything. I’ve definitely seen more data backing up that it doesn’t affect the screen than I have any that it damages it. That’s just from what I’ve seen though when I was researching for the G15 vs M16.
I don't mind the extra weight, and size of the legion 5 pro and its power supply, I don't mind the worse colors on it. I do mind the reduced screen brightness after a couple of years on the G15, and I love the mux switch and extra gpu power on the legion. Yes, the CPU on the other hand on the g15 is better... but not that big of a difference if I'm not using CPU intensive software and games. The problem is availability of the legion 5 pro because for the WHOLE (yes, whole) country i reside in, each batch is 9 legion 5 pros... 9 pieces once every couple of months! which is unreal and... extremely stupid, even though I understand the reasons why it is like that.
Yeah honestly if you don’t mind that weight and power brick, then it is nice to have the mux switch and extra brightness! That availability is kinda ridiculous though. Is the G15’s availability any better there?
@@Dane3412 Aw man, I mean if I were you I’d just get the G15 as it’s still an insanely good laptop. You can’t go wrong with either one. Or just wait for the next generation of CPUs/GPUs to hit in 2022
@@JoshCravesTech tell you what, if the price of the legion from the next batch (in a week or two they said) won't be much higher than it currently is and if I'll be lucky to be one of the people who puts it in the cart and checks out, I'll buy it. But if no, I'll wait for the 2022 lineup. I'll only have to upgrade the ram on it and gg.
No, I prefer Armoury Crate. It has fan control, excellent silent mode, wattage control, and useful battery-saving features. But yes, the Legion 5 Pro has a mux switch and a webcam. The only way to bypass optimus in G15 is using an external screen. But for the webcam, the Asus Link software allows the computer to recognize your phone as a webcam and it works great
Really good and informative video but now I'm not really sure which one I should get. In my country, the L5P is ~1300€ and the G15 is ~2200€ so I just cant decide between the two
I mean you can’t really go wrong with either one. It just depends on the extra features that are important to you. Personally I would spend a little bit more to have the premium features of the G15, but if it was WAY more expensive I’d probably go with the Legion.
Hey I don't know you, but I love the review, such as a great detail, you answer my curiosity perfectly about these hyped laptops. I got my decision which one to buy based on my needs, thanks man
This video def helped me feel better about skipping out on the L5Pro and getting the omen 17. I think there is more to gain with the higher wattage with intel amd is better for midrange and compact IMO... Def agree with you in saying that the L5Pro is way overhyped. Yes it is a good computer but it isn't endgame in opitons...
Omen 17 performance, screen and battery life are lower than L5P same spec, and price is higher in omen. But life is a chocolate box right? Get what you like the most
There isn’t much data out there on the new Omen 17 (Intel model) yet but from what I’ve seen… sorry y’all but yes it does outperform both of these laptops by a decent amount. It’s more in line with the Legion 7i as far as performance.
Is there a risk that if I am using the G15 consistently with the screen closed, the exhaust could damage the screen because it's blowing directly on it? Also, some people say that it automatically locks down after 5 minutes if the screen is closed and it gets above a certain heat level. For example, one commenter on Reddit said "When gaming with an external monitor I’m forced to keep the laptop open or else it will shut down by itself after a little while." Thoughts?
I was about to pull the trigger on the G15 for $2100 on Amazon but was hesitating because I hate scalpers/mark up. Literally the day I was about to cave best buy restocked and I got it for $1800. Coming in 2 days and excited to leave behind my 970 chonker lol. My only dislike is I really wanted the white model but that has been sold out since launch it feels like
Comparing the design (from my point of view), the performance of the laptops and the price, further strengthens my opinion that Legion 5Pro is the better choice.
Pretty much what I've been looking for, thank you! Two questions though: here in Germany I couldn't find the G15 with those specs cheaper that 2100€ - Legion on the other hand is 1800€ which is, you know, tempting. Would you say it still worths ia to go with the G15 despite the price difference? Also, I'm not a heavy gamer but I do occasional 3D modeling and animating, will 16 GB RAM be sufficient? Thanks :3
For me, yes. I’d gladly pay a little more to have the portability, better silent mode, better keyboard and trackpad, and better CPU in the G15. As for RAM, 16GB has been great and has worked really well. I think it will continue to be a great amount of RAM for some more years. You can always upgrade one RAM stick to get 24gb or 40gb and the first 16gb will still run in dual channel.
So i have a question like one last question, can the g15 run genshin impact smoothly? Bc my parents gog a break from work so we are plannjng on traveling but i have an addiction to genshin impact so can it run smoothly?
calm down, he's just stating his opinion. We can agree or not. Since he has 2 laptop on his own, many of people will agree or disagree with him, but doesn't matter. I'd choose the L5 Pro over the G15 in any days, simply because of gaming performance, and with being Intel Core i7 are out you can even undervolt the CPU and get slightly better temperature and better performance (maybe?).
@@OnlinePez The hinge is an acquired taste. I have a Legion 5 (similar chassis) and I have to say, it makes the laptop look bulky. But hey, the vents work really well and I'm sure the higher TDP needs those.
Nice vid bro ! I want to ask, which one is more capable with heavy workload such as game development (programming,3d modeling, like blender ue4 unity etc) and other high content creation stuff like video editing etc
Both are very capable! You’ll get amazing performance from either one. The G15 does have a better CPU, so CPU-intensive programs might run a little better on the G15, but on the other hand some people love that tiny extra bit of height on the Legion 5 Pro. I prefer the portability of the G15 though, and video editing on it is a breeze! Even in silent mode it can handle whatever you throw at it, which is nice if I’m editing video near other people I’m not worried about my fans going full blast out of nowhere
Thank you! Yeah m16 with the 3070 isn’t available in the US but from what I’ve heard, it runs a bit louder in fans and a bit hotter temps, but seems to be a beast in games that benefit from Intel.
@@JoshCravesTech M16 is arriving soon to BestBuy, in the same time G15 with 3070 sold out. And I'm lost, as I want to replace my GS65 with 2060 and as I understand there is no sense to switch 2060 for 3060. And there are only 2 good options for me: 3070 or 3080. But M16 with 3080 is way too expansive.
@@JoshCravesTech unfortunately not. G15 amd + 3070 is equal to M16 intel + 3060. Or better screen or better gpu. I think I go with g15. But here is again issue: g15 3070 or more expensive 3080? :)
This video only appeared after I purchased the laptop. So I'm glad I make the right choice. The Legion was 500usd cheaper than the G15, but the specs were also less than G15. 3060 compared to 3070 and amd 7 vs 9. I thought overall G15 looks more decent than Legion
There must be an issue somewhere, the RTX3070 in that G15 is limited to 95watts and should perform in warzone very close to a 90watt limited RTX3060. (Available in the same design) The Lenovo should perform way better, did Lenovo hide a full fan speed mode at some stupid place ore something?
Yeah the G15 can boost up to 100 watts. You would think that the Legion 5 Pro would perform a lot better with 140 watts, but that is not the case unfortunately. Lenovo doesn’t allow manual fan control so who knows if it’s a thermal limitation or what it could be.
Nice!! I’m going to put out a video here soon on upgrading the ram. My recommendation is to add 16gb for a total of 24GB. This is the ram I went with after a good bit of research: www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q8TNXKP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_FNYHHC316JVZZ49VA28Q?psc=1
The dislikes are telling me that people must obviously be upset that I like the G15 more… Like I said in the video, I really wanted to hop aboard the Lenovo train but there is just simply not enough (or much of any at all) gains in performance to justify purchasing it over the lighter and more premium G15. Especially with current prices. However at the end of the day both of these machines are BEASTS and if I found a good deal, I’d definitely take either one. Now stop hating, lol
like an msi and legion 5 pro owner i can tell you, that legion 5 pro is really rubbish. Built quality just okay, but not compared to msi. But what is really awfull and no one on youtube saying about it is random freezes and shutdowns because of faily Lenovo software or even hardware. The whole Lenovo forum is writing about this issues, but Lenovo dont fuck about it, just continue to selling a failed laptops and then repair it lol. So if you wanna good and wellmade laptop pick asus or msi one
"The dislikes are telling me that people must obviously be upset that I like the G15 more" It's not they upset about your review, because basically they do their research and stating the fact that L5 Pro is better than G15 overall. (at least most of them are). You can do your research. I'm not going to do a favor for you, since you can do it yourself. And if you found similar results after your research, then just stick with it. You can have your own preference based on your research and testing, but people will agree or disagree it's s up to them, because many people did their research and they're stick with it. It's just you who can't accept the dislikes, and expect everyone will give like in your videos.
@@macsandre2818 ummm this is my research. I spent hours upon hours with both of these machines side by side. I did this because there isn’t much data out there on either of these in their native resolution and hardly any data out there on the Legion in hybrid mode and G15 in dGPU mode. So here I am, probably one of the few with this data and no one wants to accept it, lol. The Legion 5 Pro is not better “because it is”. It depends a lot on use-case. To me, the G15 is insanely better, but to someone else, the Legion 5 Pro might be the better choice. But the thing is, for performance I have actual data and benchmarks, and yes I’ve researched both a ton on my own.
@@macsandre2818 yep, if talking about performance it is really better, but quality of made is sucks, i don't think you wanna buy and use a faily laptop, even if he is a faster one, just go and take a look on lenovo forum- a lot of ppl saying that their laptops failed and freezing all the time. I spend a week to setup mine, and still not sure if it gonna work properly, and Lenovo's return policy is looks like a scam- "we won't replace your new faily laptop, but we gonna repair it and make it refurbished." A lot of youtubers been bought by Lenovo and not saying about build and soft\hardware issues. If you wanna performance and ready to fc with lenovos faily soft for atleast a week, or even more(if u gonna repair your new one, lol) - then yeah go with it, but not everyone have a time to do it. I was excited by legion 5 pro performance too, an was upset when i got it. I have an MSI dominator before this one and have a zero issues fo 3 years of using, but Lenovo's laptop have it everyday
Very nice, I appreciate ur efforts on this. Video is but very good by covering all aspects. I afraid to buy g15 due to hot air to screen. But now its clear. 👍
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I'm really struggling to decide which laptop I'll go for next. Help me decide! Legion 5 Pro or Strix G15 G513QR? Legion = R7 5800H/RTX 3070/WQHD 165 Hz, 80 Wh battery Strix = R9 5900HX, RTX 3070/FHD 300 Hz, 90 Wh battery Legion has MUX switch, webcamera, higher quality screen, higher brightness, 10W higher TDP on GPU and more ports. Strix has better battery life, higher screen refresh rate, better portability, better keyboard and trackpad, slightly faster processor, better speakers. I'm traveling to work quite a lot, and the portability and battery life means a bit, but the webcamera also does. I do both editing and gaming, so the Strix will be better for rendering, and the Legion will be better for gaming. Legion has slightly larger screen and higher resolution, which is nice when editing (and gaming, but will impact performance). Strix has 300 Hz refresh rate which is nice when I play CS:GO! These two laptops are so good at countering eachother 😅 Which one would YOU go for, and why?
Is the QHD Strix available where you live? I’d go for that if so. But the FHD one is still really nice. Honestly you can’t go wrong with either one. Do you plan to use the laptop’s own keyboard and trackpad often? If so definitely go for the Strix. The Legion’s trackpad is so frustrating to me, lol. Also if you plan on hooking up to an external monitor often then the Strix is a good choice too. But if you plan on mostly just using the laptop screen itself with an external mouse then the Legion is probably the better choice because of the extra height and brighter, higher res screen.
@@JoshCravesTech Can only get the QHD for the Advantage edition here it seems. I plan to use the Laptop's keyboard only, and maybe 50/50 between trackpad and mouse. Such a difficult choice lol, but the WQHD display on the Legion 5 Pro seems to be very nice looking. Thanks a lot for the reply!
It just could be a point of perspective, but the port on the G15 are kind of in the way compared to the Legion. Which has most of them tucked away on the back. The same for fan noise. If you lead the heat away to the back, your noise will be considerable less than lead over the screen. Seems to me that the bias you've got against the Lenovo is quite big. And if compared, both laptops will actually perform quite the same. They are both good build laptops and the issues you've mentioned did not appear with my laptop (L5P). Complaining that charging with the big powerbrick is just less portable, seems to me a bit off, the cables are just fine, not less flexible than the ones of my other laptops and when you charge, of course your portability will be less, the machine is hooked on the powergrid. I just keep mine laying around, no need to pick it up. The RAM issue you've dismissed quite easily is just a thing. My L5P was delivered with 32 GB and is still upgradeable when needed. SOmething you just can't do with the G15. If you need more RAM, well that would suck. About the scaling of the native resolutions, I haven't got any game which did not scale right to this resolutions. It could be that we're not playing the same games but nevertheless this issue is just not that big of a deal and certainly no reason to compare results of different resolutions and performance levels. The L5P needs to drive more pixels, so a drop of FPS is to be expected, You showing that these are still in each other ballpark is a plus for the L5P. The thermal issue and not being to explain why the 5800 gets hotter that the 5900 is just wattage, there is a 10 watt difference, and it still keeps the cpu at a higher clockrate. And actually the difference between the cpu's in performance is just not that big. In the SOTTR benchmark the blue led in the powerbutton is visible of the L5P, this is the quiet mode, the low wattage/performance mode. (34m27s). I hope you used the right powersetting for all benchmarks. To my conclusion, both are good laptops, this review/benchmark leaves some questions to be asked and is probably biased by your own preference. And during typing and looking at your review my L5P never once ramped up with fan noise. The G15 will probably perform the same, considering the lower power usage.
The ports on the back of the Legion, as I said, is cool for some people, but personally I’m not a fan. I’m on the move a good bit (hence why most people buy a laptop in the first place) and plugging things into the side is more convenient. Fan noise, is exactly as I observed. For the Legion, it’s louder for people behind the laptop (or if it’s up against a wall). For the G15, it’s louder for the person in front of the screen, as the fans bounce off the screen. Overall, I’ve found the G15 quieter while gaming, and the silent mode is WAY better at staying quiet, which is a HUGE deal for me. I don’t have any bias against Lenovo. I had my G15 already and I bought the Legion 5 Pro fully expecting to sell my G15, sacrificing a little portability for performance, and was disappointed to find that it pretty much performs the same. So I’m over here like “Why would I sacrifice all this portability, awesome trackpad, keyboard, etc. for something that’s way chunkier and performs basically the same?” That’s just my opinion. That doesn’t mean the Legion 5 Pro sucks. It’s an awesome laptop still. For the right price, I’d take either one. It’s no argument though that the Legion 5 Pro is less portable. It simply is. I’ve spent weeks using both. The cable is thick and not flexible. The charging brick is massive. There’s no arguing that, lol. The Legion 5 Pro with 32Gb doesn’t usually have the slow ram timings. The G15 having one stick soldered is a dealbreaker for some people, but I’ve never had an issue with 16GB. I edit all my videos and it works fine with no lag or ram bottleneck. I can always upgrade to 24gb or 40gb if needed and still get dual channel performance from the first 16gb. As for resolution, not every game supports 16:10, especially older titles. Some games just zoom in, some stretch it vertically, and others have black bars. This isn’t the majority of games, but it’s definitely a thing. As for comparing at native res, I’d have to disagree with you. Watch my most recent video. I have more tests in 1440p on the Legion 5 Pro. Although most people won’t play in that resolution, it gains very little from dropping to 1440p and sometimes even loses fps by doing so. The Legion runs hotter in temps, yeah. The G15 has liquid metal and a more efficient CPU so yes that’s no surprise. Even when the G15 reaches higher clocks the CPU stays relatively cooler than the Legion at similar clock speeds. I did use the right settings in Shadow of the Tomb Raider. The footage you’re talking about is just b-roll of when I ran it in quiet mode, not what was used for that actual test. I’m glad your Legion’s fans aren’t randomly ramping up. Mine and several others I’ve asked have had the same issue though, even in quiet mode. It doesn’t happen in 5 or 10 minutes, usually every 15-30 minutes of normal use. Maybe staying in hybrid mode helps, but a lot of people don’t like to be in hybrid mode on the L5P.
@@JoshCravesTech yooo my guy you just got 100 subs damnn according to the quality of your video yuo deserve frikin alots of subs man ,,,here is mine I'll share your video to get you more subs. Anyways I did'nt even watch the entire video but I only commented because you were more focusing about the keyboard and mousepad design like that isn't a big issue for me like we are already used to keyboards like legion is its not too bad and I have heard alot about legion from my friends man they get a pretty good battery backup too unlike what you described in battery backup section anyways man I wish you best of luck with your channel.
@@miw879 appreciate it man! Yeah these are all just my preferences. I’m going to upload a video soon with only gaming benchmarks for those who don’t care about design and all that. Cause honestly we all have our own preferences and everyone just gets mad when it doesn’t fit their own opinion lol 😂
3:30 RGB on the Asus G15? I thought it only had white backlit keys? According to other reviews I saw like from Dave2D and LTT they said it only had white lit keys. I am confused, does the black g15 come with RGB but not the white version?
I have L5P Fan noise common problem with windows laptop. So, that never a factor in my decision. Why I chose L5P: Build quality, nice and solid. Combination of aluminum and good plastic. Ports arrangement, none come close to this. One type C on the left, one type A at the right, the rest are behind. Cursor keys are normal size and well separated from adjacent keys, again rare to see this. Keypad is a must for me. It helps a lot with my daily use and work. Well thought fn keys combo, easy to change kb light profile, change framerate, change power profile, and the usual combos. I never realise 16:10 can be a pleasure to look and work with, that small extra space makes a lot of difference Compared to Asus, Lenovo still priced reasonably within my budget for similar spec. Design and look wise, it is sleek, clean and express sturdiness without being too "loud" This laptop does not attract fingerprints and smudges easily! Trust me! I hate those dirty looks ---- What might put you off from this: It is heavy especially with that extra 300w brick Default so-dimm is slow, will affect performance. If you want to maximise L5P potential, have to buy new so-dimm 720p front cam... but it is hard to find windows laptop that can match apple camera Speaker n mic, again same reason as above --- In the end, I'm happy and satisfied with my purchase. Never look back.
Fan noise is common in gaming laptops but it's nice that the G15 is able to run on silent in a classroom or cafe if need be. I agree with you though on the those pros and cons for the L5P. Obviously subjectively I wasn't too crazy about some of them and some of the cons annoyed me more, but I wouldn't regret it honestly with either of these machines. They're both amazing laptops and it really just comes down to your personal preferences on which is better suited for you
@@warlord135 I’m not talking about gaming in a classroom, lol 😂 I’m talking about just basic stuff, internet browsing, etc. the fans randomly ramped up quite a bit on Lenovo when I was doing stuff like that which would be kind of embarrassing in a classroom setting. I don’t have anything against Lenovo, it’s an awesome laptop! Either one is a great choice, but people should understand that they’re not for everyone, they’re a bit overhyped but that’s not Lenovo’s fault.
@@JoshCravesTech idk my laptop's fan won't ramp up randomly. I tried . You can also use the Quite mode. I never faced that prb thats why I thought that :)
@@warlord135 yeah I tested it in quiet mode and it would just be random that it would ramp up oddly loud whereas the fans in the G15 might occasionally turn on but extremely quietly. But yeah could just be my units but I’ve heard the same from other owners to make sure. It’s good that yours doesn’t though!
for me, 1500 Eur for the Legion 5, 2500 Eur for the G15. I'd prefer the G15, but the quality of life improvements over the lenovo aint worth the extra 1000 Euros
I don't really use track pad when mouse exist. So i just deactivated it and that exhaust below screen in g15 is a nightmare for me since i live in SEA with no AC
Yeah if you’re not using the trackpad then you’re better off. People have mined crypto for weeks straight on the G15 on max power and have had no issues with the exhaust. If someone had something happen to the bezel it’s pretty much because there was already underlying issues
@@JoshCravesTech Yea. For really heavy stuff g15 is better but if really tight in budget and just casual use and game l5p is a good choice compare to others
Yeah wattage has been way overhyped. It’s not a huge difference. Bypassing Nvidia Optimus usually makes more of a difference. And at 1080p, better ram also helps.
Thank you for calling out all those people that just praise the lenovo legion and shit on the Zephyrus for no reason. G15 all the way... It just looks and keyboard and trackpad are way better. Only thing is if it had a 16:10 display..
Does hp omen 15 3070 compare to the L5pro 3070? Or performance wise is it better to get the non pro legion 5 3070? Would really like the qhd and both l5pro and omen15 have it but it legion 5 performance is better I’m tempted to just get that… thoughts? It’s nice that those laptops also have a webcam, removing the need to buy an additional webcam/carrying that around). I do a lot of cad, 3D modelling, rendering, photoshop and also some animation(ue4, premiere, etc). I do have a powerful 3080 pc build at home but need something good to work on when going to uni (budget £ 1500-1700). Really want a l5pro but still no stock and not sure when they’re releasing).
Yeah, I have benchmarks in this video of the Omen 15! It’s the FHD one, but the QHD one should perform very similar to the G15. I loved the Omen. It is much more portable than the Legion 5 Pro, but it is more plastic though so keep that in mind. As long as you’re careful with it, it’s a great choice. I do a ton of Photoshop and Premiere Pro on my G15 and I love it. If you already have a desktop at home, I’d recommend a more portable laptop like the G15 or Omen, especially since you can use your PC’s monitor to get more performance.
I just came across this video while searching for help with my G15. I think maybe I got one of those outlyers that Asus QC missed. Mine has a RTX3080 in it however I cannot get more than 30FPS consistently in Halo Infinite or Warzone. I've done tons of troubleshooting too, cleaned old drivers, tried current driver from Nvidia 497.09 at time of writing this as well as removing and trying older driver from back in Sept. And when I say running at 30fps that's lowering to 1080p while also turning all settings to low. I think its time for an RMA on this one. I really have been loving the laptop for work (3D art creation) but after I started gaming with it just a couple months ago I began to get really worried, now I just think its got a serious problem with the GPU.
So I have to be prepared to spend 99usd on Ram for the legion 5 but the soldered low capacity RAM magically makes any uneven RAM addition free? This ain't a "neutral" review.. is it?
@@JoshCravesTech Sure ..but you do have to add at least 8GB to the more expensive Zephyrus (2200usd for the 3060 8GB 1TB)..yet for some reason that's ok but spending 99 on the 1350usd Legion 5 with a 3070 and 1TB+1TB is an issue? You can even sell the included Samsung ram for 60usd.. What it seems is you are trying really hard to disqualify one of the best devices on the market.
@@absolutium I mean I got the G15 for $300 less than the Legion here in the US. I spent like $60 on a good 16gb DDR4 stick of ram for 24gb and it works great. Not sure what you’re on about, but I’d probably take the Legion given the two prices you just gave. Just depends on what you want in a laptop. They’re both great.
Thanks for the review, still not sure what laptop to buy. Will buy a 2021 because you get so much more for you money. BUT the big but here is the price. Please compare a Asus laptop in the same price range as the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro and show ous the results. Is there even an Asus with 3070 in that price range?
I’m in the US so these are usually about the same price here depending on the sale. If you find one significantly cheaper than the other then I’d just say go for it. Both are still great laptops.
I’m in the US so these are usually about the same price here depending on the sale. If you find one significantly cheaper than the other then I’d just say go for it. Both are still great laptops.
In many reviews (like the LTT one) it is recommended to get the 3070 g15 because of the lower power limit. When you used the external display, the results were identical to the full power rtx 3070m legion. Can you get identical results (vs full power model) from the g15 with the rtx 3080m using the external display? I'm debating getting the 3070 G15 vs 3080 G15
I would personally stick with the 3070 as that gets you the most bang for your buck. I have seen the 3080 G15 get over 11k in Timespy though on an external monitor so take that as you will. Maybe not a huge improvement, but there is an improvement.
Yeah, I wish they did too. The cool thing though is Asus Link software lets the laptop treat your phone as it’s webcam, and it works well. The Zephyrus M16 has a webcam, but it’s more expensive :/
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Looking for a laptop for college and the g15 definitely looks like the way to go with the better portability, better battery life, and better silent mode
yeah, but when it comes to reliability, lenovo is better nowadays.
Thanks for the hard word in putting this together. It was a tough call and I was more inclined to purchase G15. However, didn't want to spend more on a gaming monitor as I already have a 24" old monitor for office stuff. Will not be carrying it everyday and mux was important. Hence went for L5 Pro.
very correct choice
I was actually buying one of those two, hated how look the lenovo and felt but considered because of the Wattage and the mux switch, this video really helped me. Went fot the g15 of course.
Nice! Exactly, focusing on wattage too much isn’t worth it. Thanks for watching!
Love Legion ❤, placed order on Legion 7, waiting for delivery now 🥺
@@KOT-ANGRY are you waiting +2 months?
@@cballoss12 Got it! Changed RAM and - i like it! Its loud.........yes, LOUD, but handle games +/- okey! I better prefer 1080p screen than 2K, because you got worst FPS and verrrry small letters when 100% resolution scale is set. 🥺 That 2K screen is waste or power for gamers..but for work its excellent screen!
@@KOT-ANGRY where did you get it?
because I paid electricity now, I think I'm okay with missing some FPS while using like 30-40% less watt. thank you for this comparison, I believe Legion 5 Pro have more potential, but at least even the lower watt still decent for my use case.
Wow, just the review I was looking for. I have been on the fence between these both models and I almost went with the Legion Pro because of the RAM upgrade to run in dual channel. But after seeing this video and how much detail you go into every key aspect of a gaming laptop, you helped me pull the trigger on the Asus G15 3070. I went with the 24GB RAM option as I don't do much development and I'm a casual gamer. I really like the aesthetics of it as well. My only gripe is the lack of webcam, but if needed I can throw one on top of my 34" monitor. An awesome review and subscribed!
Great choice! Especially for those who need it for more than purely gaming. Thanks for watching and hope you enjoy your new G15!!
You're gonna get worse performance with 24gb because you're not running dual channel.
@@rawevoli this is incorrect. It will run in dual channel up until 16gb is utilized then everything after that will run in single. Check Jarrod’s Tech channel, his new ram video even shows how 24gb can perform very well. Since making this video my G15 now has 24gb of ram and it has only increased performance.
@@JoshCravesTech damn I guess a lot of false info is out there lol
@@rawevoli No kidding! That’s kinda the goal with my channel is to help clear up some of the misinformation out there on stuff like wattage, ram, etc. I have a few good videos in the works on stuff like that.
just bought the asus g15 3060 version from best buy. got it on sale 620$ off. looking up videos for the laptop, and came across your videos. great content and info. Thanks man. def subbing
Much appreciated!
Great video, I can see you put lots of effort on the editing for a first try. I agree with most of what you said but a few things I disagree.
I think both laptops are neck and neck and if you can get one for even $200 less it should be enough. There are big wins for each device so I think its not that one is better, its about personal preference.
Legion 5 pro Pros:
Bigger, brighter, higher res, overall BETTER display
140w 3070, more performance potential with updates & tweaks
Both ram sticks user upgradeable
HDMI 2.1 & MUX switch
Biggest cons: Device not refined liker Asus, Razer. Poor battery optimisation. No face login or fingerprint.
Asus Zephyrus G15 Pros:
More compact/ refined build
Better keyboard and trackpad
Better battery life
Biggest cons: NO webcam, no HDMi 2.1, no MUX.
Yeah, honestly I’d pay $200 more for the more premium features of the Zephyrus but that’s just me. But yes beyond that, I’d take either one for the right price, as they’re both amazing. Honestly the biggest disappointment for me with the Legion was the 140W 3070. It just didn’t give that much of a performance boost (but who knows if it gets tweaked in the future?). But the mux switch is awesome! I really wish the G15 had one. If I only planned to keep my laptop in one spot the majority of the time then the Legion is a great choice.
@@JoshCravesTech the design alone worth the 200 extra bucks. Not counting the brand "wow" factor
tbh i am a very light gamer, so many times i don't need mux, but it sure gives the slight fps boost in games
I'm loving this g15. Best sounding speakers I've ever heard on a laptop. Best screen I've seen. Most quite I've experienced. Can run AAA titles no problem. Great build quality and looks so much better in person. To me it seems like the most bang for your buck. Amazing machine
Agreed! Glad to hear you’re enjoying yours
same. especially after a few registry changes for power settings
Do you have the settings to run quiet? Mine is so loud
@@bruin098 When gaming, every gaming laptop is a bit loud, this one is just quieter than most. Switching over to Performance mode instead of Turbo in Armoury Crate will lower the fans a bit when gaming. Disabling turbo boost (registry edit) will lower fans even more when gaming with very little sacrifice to performance.
When idle or doing basic tasks, make sure you’re on silent mode, turbo boost is disabled, and preferably iGPU mode is on so the dGPU isn’t trying to run everything. This will keep the laptop virtually silent. If you need to, you can set a fan curve and power limits in manual mode to fine tune things even more.
@@JoshCravesTech Did you check if Legion 5 Pro had Single Rank x16 or x8 memory? That's the main issue causing lower performance.
I love how you stayed true to your believes and knowledge instead of misleading some viewers like myself who doesn’t know too much about all the terminology of a computer. I ordered a Z15 yesterday so I can’t wait to play on it soon!
Thanks so much! Congrats on your new machine!
Props for the editing skills!
I own a g15 2021 and my room mate has the 2020 macbook pro 16. I would rate speakers on the macbook are a 10/10 and g15 a 7.5/10 . Macbook is so much louder and clearer!
Thank you! Also you’re right, I forget about the 16” ones. I was comparing to the new M1 MacBooks (13”)
Interesting comparison. My L5Pro performs slightly better than yours, with 88fps in SOTTR at 1600p and 94fps at 1440p, but mine came with 32GB of the faster RAM. With faster RAM the CPU score of the L5Pro in Timespy should be closer to 10.000 instead of 9.000. It is fascinating that the Zephyrus g15 performs so well with a lower Watt 3070. If priced similarly the G15 could be the one to get, that power brick of the L5Pro really is chunky. I do like the bright 16:10 screen though, and the soldered RAM of the G15 is a big turnoff. I think you are mainly lucky that you can get the Zephyrus G15 for a good price. As stated by others, a Zephyrus G15 with the same specs as my l5Pro costs about €400,- more.
Your L5 pro will be kicked by helios 300 11th gen.
@@hungout007shinobi9 show me
@@hungout007shinobi9 u must be kidding. one of the worst laptops of the year, not even in the same ballpark of these 2 laptops
@@tanjl6683 try and experienced it, I had Lenovo Legion pro but I gaved to my little bro because it was outperformed by predator 2021 model, Legion L5 pro is good only in definition but the performance is not performing as what the specs should be.
@@hungout007shinobi9 it has been proven by many reviewers like jarrods tech that the legion is one of the best performing, if not the best performing 3070 that he has tested. and the predator was one of the worst, even behind the hp omen 3070
That zephyrus is beautiful! I think I would spend more for it. The Legion just looks good too, but not as premium as the Zephyrus. I opted for a cheaper gaming laptop last time and regretted it shortly. I would rather sacrifice a bit of power for a nicer build.
the lenovo is literally better built lmoa wtf are you even talking about?? nothing "cheaper" about the 5 pro
@@Taylormade2350Lenovo L5P literally screams "gamer" on your face, while g15 is low profile, which is hell of a lot better.
Thanks for the in-depth review. Coming from PS5/ Series X. Want to get into PC but will try the G15 first
may I know why? I thought the crowd is moving away from pc to console since last gen. surprised you are going in reverse
First review/comparison video I've actually enjoyed watching. Thanks for the resolution, good stuff 👍
Wow you uploaded this recently and ive been saving to get the Rog Zephyrus g15 lately.
Nice and very helpful review (some parts a little too detailed, but I could see how some people could like that). Certainly can’t understand how this video got 300+ dislikes. If I had to give one reason that I will probably wind up getting the G15, it would be this video.
Yeah a lot of reviewers skip out on the little details but that’s what I care about most lol 😂 Thank you so much for watching, glad you enjoyed it! Hope you enjoy the G15 if you end up getting it!
i'm a dekstop gamer but if i were to choose between g15 and 5 pro i'll go for g15 5-10 frames just doesn't matter battery life and form factor is a huge factor for a laptop
Exactly!
Great & Detailed Work Josh 👍🏼
Many takeaways from your hours together of putting in the content 👍🏼
How oftem do u shower
Great review ! Helped me pull the trigger on the L5pro. The power connector on the side in the middle is just awful. I like the 16:10 for the non gaming stuff I do. Trackpad i don’t care been using Bluetooth mice since they’ve existed. Not too sure how anyone buys a gaming laptop and cares about a trackpad but that’s just the reality of how we all have different needs and tastes. The fans blowing on the screen eek But I will say that other one has a clean look with rounded corners. Personally there isn’t much besides the rounded corners that appeals to me about that other one. Good to know I can ignore anything else I see about them in the future ! 👍🏼
Glad it helped! Yeah, if you never use the trackpad then I totally get it. And you're exactly right. It's our different preferences that make the decision, not that one laptop is significantly better than the other.
@@JoshCravesTech 💯 just personal preference. I’m an Alienware guy through and through (had about 30 of them over the past 15 years or so) just sold my 18 r3 that I lugged into work every day for the past 2 years so as you could imagine a big power brick isn’t going to faze me 😅. But, I did order a slim Lenovo 230w charger for the L5p and I’ll leave the 300w brick at home. It was going to be an x17 but I’m holding out for the 12th gen cpus and possibly 3070 supers that might still have the slim adapters and then I’ll order that up with the 4k 120 screen. Fingers crossed for 16:10 in the r2 🤞🏼 Until then the L5p will get it done. Forgot to mention the look of the L5p cracked me up in your video 😂. I have to agree it’s not exactly styling. Sadly it looks better on the outside but then again that also factors in to many peoples decision (looking at anyone who’s ever got an Alienware lol).
@@5abivt Lol, nice!! Good call on the 230w power brick. Yeah the x17 is an absolute monster of a machine. Wish I had one to review, it’s probably my favorite thing Alienware has put out in a while, but I agree, I’m also waiting to see what we get with 12th gen.
Seriously...Agreat and engaging videoo... keep it up broo wish you success
Wow. This is the best comparison video. Thank you man! 👍
No problem, thanks for watching!
I think the Legion 5Pro is a great machine, i personally love the 16:10 aspect ratio, but i could not stand that off center trackpad and the sheer weight of this machine and power brick. I recently just purchased the g15 with the 3070 from best buy during the sale for $300 bucks off the tag and i couldn't be happier. Been waiting to get my hands on this machine for over 6 months and its an absolute delight. Great work on your comparison I feel like it shed a lot of light for many of us looking for a proper machine for work and play. - 3D Arist and Game Programmer
Same here, definitely agree! Thank you and glad you’re happy with your G15! 🙏
What is the TGP of your GPU ?
How much did you get the g15 for?
@@artefact2162 $1549 - got it 300 off like the week or 2 before black friday from best buy
@@arieltheartist3161 Damn nice deal
Thank you so much for putting this much effort into making this video; super helpful. I'm sure that your channel will grow soon. And please make a video about M16.
Did you disable turbo mode after editing registry for the G15? those temps look nice. Great video, hope you make more of these.
The temps in the video are with turbo boost still enabled on both machines. I just wanted to show them at full power, but yes you can further lower temps by disabling boost!
The G15 using Ryzen 7 5800hs or 5900hs version which consumes less power. That’s the reason why it’s cooler
@@JoshCravesTech I disabled mine, pretty much while gaming the temps are around middle 70’s. What dows the turbo does? Higher fps?
Wow man! Very good review! I have been searching for a good review for quite a long time but all of them missed the mux switch point so there was no comparison with the mux. Now my doubts have been cleared. I think I'll go for the g15 (If I can find one that is). And just one more thing, is the g15 made fully out of metal(lid and body) or is it just the lid that is made out of metal?
Thank you!! The entire body is a magnesium alloy, it doesn’t feel quite as heavy duty as the aluminum on the L5P’s lid but it feels much sturdier than the L5P’s plastic keyboard deck. It’s like a nice plastic/metal hybrid.
Thanks, appreciate it...
I noticed that your legion 5 pro RTX 3070 clocks at 1500Mhz+ despite drawing 130W plus. That is not normal as the clocks should have been around 1600Mhz-1700Mhz+. That would have explained why the performance of both legion & G15 are almost identical. Maybe driver issues?
I think it’s because I was standing still in those spots? Look at 27:50. That’s more in line with how my Legion 5 Pro actually ran during benchmarks and when I was collecting averages from gameplay. It ran around 1600-1700 majority of the time sometimes 1800Mhz. Sometimes it did dip into that 1500 range but maybe that’s just because there weren’t a ton of different frames to process and it was giving room to the CPU to clock higher.
Wattage was still high though and if you compare my fps to Jarrod’s Tech it still outperforms his Legion 5 Pro even after he replaced the ram, so it should be in line with how the average L5P performs. I also compared my results to benchmarks from others on Reddit and Discord just to make sure my unit wasn’t messed up or anything.
Informative and super funny! I have been looking for this. Without a doubt subbed!
Thanks!
I just got my G15 and I cant wait to play with it
Congrats!!
Great comparison review, exactly what I was looking for.
Great video man. I am nowhere near a pro vid creator but if only you have a settle background music playing so that whenever you hit meme points you can stop the music making the meme more appealing. Good job man
Haha true, I’m a musician but I never even thought about adding music to my own video 😂
The Legion 5 Pro is almost the perfect laptop. All it has to do is have the same centered keyboard, better keys, glass trackpad, SMALLER POWER BRICK FFS and chic design that’s in the Asus. I’m gonna be using it a bunch for coding on the go, so I need nice keys. I HATE that only the Asus offers these features. Cringe.
Also, I like your style of videos Josh. Funny and informative.
Thank you! And I completely agree with you. Hopefully Lenovo takes notes and makes something in that more portable/powerful category next year.
Now I want to see your review of the m16. Great review
Thanks! Hoping for an M16/3070 release soon in the US
After using lenovo y520 legion .. I can truly say that usage of cheap materials & lower battery standby without charger plugged in . .
seriously have made me look into other alternatives.
Personally lenovo has come into limelight after ThinkPad and gaming legion series but I feel there may be superior brands out there who can give them a good competition ..
Great content man! Do the g15 and m16!
In the EU Legion with 32gb RAM is 1799€ and the Asus 2399€
Jeez, idk why Asus charges so much more there! Is the Legion discounted or is that the normal price for both?
@@JoshCravesTech thats the normal price for both
@@JoshCravesTech All Zephyrus models are priced that way in Europe. This is why the Legion is so popular over here.
@@Havanu81 that’s crazy. In the US at Best Buy, the G15 is cheaper than what the Legion 5 Pro usually goes for and the G15 will go on sale sometimes for even cheaper. Is it all Asus gaming laptops there? How about the Strix G15?
@@JoshCravesTechI’m sorry but situation has always been like that. Besides Lenovo offers really good prices on Europe
Whenever you stutter or say "Umm" try to cut that out in a editing software as that improves the quality of the video.
But still though. Great video!
Yeah, something I've definitely paid more attention to in recent videos!
I had both and returned G15 because of the build quality, fan whistle and horrible backlight bleeding. The only thing that bothers me on L5P is the fan noise, but thankfully it's not that annoying as on G15. Everything else is great.
Build quality is phenomenal on the G15. It's as close to MacBook tier as you'll get on a gaming laptop. Either you got a bad unit or the Legion police are out in force stronggg.
@@Later_Nerd Well, it felt like cheap plastic, made creaking sounds when picked up, had a very big gap between the screen and the keyboard on one side when closed and the bottom of the display frame wasn't even glued properly. Too many issues for one bad unit. I was ready to look past all that if not for the fan whistle.
In general, yes, it looks great, but it's still a Windows laptop so the quality is meh.
@@benjaminabel I wonder if you were using a previous generation unit or something. Just did a once over and there's very very little flex. No squeaks or anything that says low quality.
I deal with MacBooks all the time for work and they are nicer but it's marginal. Not trying to be a fanboy or whatever I'm just surprised the build quality was brought into question because that's one of it's stand out features in my eyes.
I had the G15 as well. couldn't stand the high pitch fan. no idea why nobody talks about it, it was instantly noticeable to me.
@@polobear7282 There are few posts on Reddit and ASUS forum about it. The problem is that it usually gets into the "coil while" category. And I believe it's the same on every unit. Some people just can't hear it. You can just search for any video where you can hear the fan noise (usually some benchmark videos), put your volume all the way up and you'll hear it for sure.
Very Underrated channel u need more view !
I would have completely got the g15 if I was using an external monitor I just really hate the vent design on the back all the heat literally vents right onto the screen and that is my biggest complaint they should have elevated the screen like Acer did with the Triton 500 SE. In the end I wound up getting the legion 5 pro with an rtx 3070 on sale for 1,298. The legion also has an on-site repair process to where they send a tech to your house to fix any issues you may have and it does cover accidental damage. Kind of a biggy
Yeah, I don’t mind the vents there cause I love the low profile design and I haven’t personally seen any issues caused by it or with other laptops that have that same vent design. At least not without some other qc issue that caused it. But that’s a GREAT deal on the Legion 5 Pro, nice purchase! And yes their support options are super affordable and nice!
@@JoshCravesTech My buddy had the M16 which is a similar design to the g15. He always used the laptop screen. Gamed on it daily. The vents venting heat onto the screen heated up the screen and caused HORRIBLE backlight bleed. He got best buy to make an exception and let him return it anyway. He got the MSI GS76 Stealth instead. Sadly unlike the g15 the screen is not elevated onto the m16. There is no screen chin on the m16. So the heat vents right onto the screen. Pretty big design flaw IMO
@@CWWJR I’ve never actually seen any laptops with that design (many other manufacturers do that by the way) such as the M16 have that happen. It may have been another underlying issue for your friend, although I can’t say for sure. People on Reddit have even tested it by straight up mining crypto at max power and fans for weeks straight without turning it off (on the M16) and no issues occurred with the screen or anything. I’ve definitely seen more data backing up that it doesn’t affect the screen than I have any that it damages it. That’s just from what I’ve seen though when I was researching for the G15 vs M16.
Hey, where'd you get that deal?
Just got myself a 1080p , rtx 3060 model today, loving it.
What software were you using for the CPU/GPU temperature overlay?
MSI Afterburner!
I don't mind the extra weight, and size of the legion 5 pro and its power supply, I don't mind the worse colors on it. I do mind the reduced screen brightness after a couple of years on the G15, and I love the mux switch and extra gpu power on the legion. Yes, the CPU on the other hand on the g15 is better... but not that big of a difference if I'm not using CPU intensive software and games. The problem is availability of the legion 5 pro because for the WHOLE (yes, whole) country i reside in, each batch is 9 legion 5 pros... 9 pieces once every couple of months! which is unreal and... extremely stupid, even though I understand the reasons why it is like that.
Yeah honestly if you don’t mind that weight and power brick, then it is nice to have the mux switch and extra brightness! That availability is kinda ridiculous though. Is the G15’s availability any better there?
@@JoshCravesTech yes it is... which almost made me buy it.
@@Dane3412 Aw man, I mean if I were you I’d just get the G15 as it’s still an insanely good laptop. You can’t go wrong with either one. Or just wait for the next generation of CPUs/GPUs to hit in 2022
@@JoshCravesTech tell you what, if the price of the legion from the next batch (in a week or two they said) won't be much higher than it currently is and if I'll be lucky to be one of the people who puts it in the cart and checks out, I'll buy it. But if no, I'll wait for the 2022 lineup. I'll only have to upgrade the ram on it and gg.
Those edits are amazing!!!
Thank you so much!
Lenovo Vantage is better, no? Also, Mux switch. And webcam.
No, I prefer Armoury Crate. It has fan control, excellent silent mode, wattage control, and useful battery-saving features. But yes, the Legion 5 Pro has a mux switch and a webcam.
The only way to bypass optimus in G15 is using an external screen. But for the webcam, the Asus Link software allows the computer to recognize your phone as a webcam and it works great
Really good and informative video but now I'm not really sure which one I should get. In my country, the L5P is ~1300€ and the G15 is ~2200€ so I just cant decide between the two
I mean you can’t really go wrong with either one. It just depends on the extra features that are important to you. Personally I would spend a little bit more to have the premium features of the G15, but if it was WAY more expensive I’d probably go with the Legion.
i like your straightup style of reviewing
Hey I don't know you, but I love the review, such as a great detail, you answer my curiosity perfectly about these hyped laptops. I got my decision which one to buy based on my needs, thanks man
Thanks so much for watching! Glad it helped 🙂
This video def helped me feel better about skipping out on the L5Pro and getting the omen 17. I think there is more to gain with the higher wattage with intel amd is better for midrange and compact IMO... Def agree with you in saying that the L5Pro is way overhyped. Yes it is a good computer but it isn't endgame in opitons...
Omen 17 performance, screen and battery life are lower than L5P same spec, and price is higher in omen.
But life is a chocolate box right? Get what you like the most
You should go check other vids on L5P because this vid does not compare both laptops very well, he needs to read more info before doing this videos
What? That is the most stupid thing you can do.
There isn’t much data out there on the new Omen 17 (Intel model) yet but from what I’ve seen… sorry y’all but yes it does outperform both of these laptops by a decent amount. It’s more in line with the Legion 7i as far as performance.
@@JoshCravesTech lol. Buying hp for gaming is the finest decision one can make
Is there a risk that if I am using the G15 consistently with the screen closed, the exhaust could damage the screen because it's blowing directly on it? Also, some people say that it automatically locks down after 5 minutes if the screen is closed and it gets above a certain heat level. For example, one commenter on Reddit said "When gaming with an external monitor I’m forced to keep the laptop open or else it will shut down by itself after a little while." Thoughts?
I’m on my way to the store do you think the m16 with the 3060 or the legion 5 pro with 3070 for gaming
The Legion 5 Pro with a 3070 will have quite a bit better gaming performance than the M16 with a 3060.
Thanks!
I was about to pull the trigger on the G15 for $2100 on Amazon but was hesitating because I hate scalpers/mark up. Literally the day I was about to cave best buy restocked and I got it for $1800. Coming in 2 days and excited to leave behind my 970 chonker lol. My only dislike is I really wanted the white model but that has been sold out since launch it feels like
Yeah the white one is beautiful! These scalpers are wild, glad to hear you got it for a decent price though
Better check if you can return or pricematch to get the bestbuy currently on sale for $1550 for 3070 version G15
@@grapegh0stx lol already done last night. Even better deal!
Comparing the design (from my point of view), the performance of the laptops and the price, further strengthens my opinion that Legion 5Pro is the better choice.
Honestly depending on the price, either one is a great choice! Outside of price, it really just comes down to personal preferences between these two.
In Switzerland the asus is about 1000 CHF more expensive, which is about 1100 USD
Hi!
I apreciate the onest review!
Pretty much what I've been looking for, thank you! Two questions though: here in Germany I couldn't find the G15 with those specs cheaper that 2100€ - Legion on the other hand is 1800€ which is, you know, tempting. Would you say it still worths ia to go with the G15 despite the price difference? Also, I'm not a heavy gamer but I do occasional 3D modeling and animating, will 16 GB RAM be sufficient?
Thanks :3
For me, yes. I’d gladly pay a little more to have the portability, better silent mode, better keyboard and trackpad, and better CPU in the G15.
As for RAM, 16GB has been great and has worked really well. I think it will continue to be a great amount of RAM for some more years. You can always upgrade one RAM stick to get 24gb or 40gb and the first 16gb will still run in dual channel.
hey, don’t get my G15 from Otto, we are fighting for the same piece 🤣
I have bought y Lenovo Legion 5 for 1.270€. There was a sale at Media Markt. And it was the 3070 version. A very good deal, i am realy happy
considering the price the legion is the deal. but it is less portable than the g15 especially with the 300w adapter.
So i have a question like one last question, can the g15 run genshin impact smoothly? Bc my parents gog a break from work so we are plannjng on traveling but i have an addiction to genshin impact so can it run smoothly?
From what I’ve seen, it definitely does!
@@JoshCravesTech Ooo, Ok thank you for responding im going to get the g15 then
The legion looks outdated? The g15 looks more like a normal laptop to me. Legion looks different to most laptops.
calm down, he's just stating his opinion. We can agree or not. Since he has 2 laptop on his own, many of people will agree or disagree with him, but doesn't matter.
I'd choose the L5 Pro over the G15 in any days, simply because of gaming performance, and with being Intel Core i7 are out you can even undervolt the CPU and get slightly better temperature and better performance (maybe?).
@@macsandre2818 I wasn't angry or anything. Just stating my opinion. Just thought it was weird that he thought it looked outdated.
@@OnlinePez The hinge is an acquired taste. I have a Legion 5 (similar chassis) and I have to say, it makes the laptop look bulky. But hey, the vents work really well and I'm sure the higher TDP needs those.
Nice vid bro ! I want to ask, which one is more capable with heavy workload such as game development (programming,3d modeling, like blender ue4 unity etc) and other high content creation stuff like video editing etc
Both are very capable! You’ll get amazing performance from either one. The G15 does have a better CPU, so CPU-intensive programs might run a little better on the G15, but on the other hand some people love that tiny extra bit of height on the Legion 5 Pro. I prefer the portability of the G15 though, and video editing on it is a breeze!
Even in silent mode it can handle whatever you throw at it, which is nice if I’m editing video near other people I’m not worried about my fans going full blast out of nowhere
Great work!! Thank you!
Thanks for the video! Helping a lot to make a right decision. Would like to see comparison g15/m16 3070/3080 - choosing between these 2
Thank you! Yeah m16 with the 3070 isn’t available in the US but from what I’ve heard, it runs a bit louder in fans and a bit hotter temps, but seems to be a beast in games that benefit from Intel.
@@JoshCravesTech M16 is arriving soon to BestBuy, in the same time G15 with 3070 sold out. And I'm lost, as I want to replace my GS65 with 2060 and as I understand there is no sense to switch 2060 for 3060. And there are only 2 good options for me: 3070 or 3080. But M16 with 3080 is way too expansive.
@@anjeymartyn9027 Have they announced what the price will be for the M16/3070? If it’s the same as the G15 then I’d go for that
@@JoshCravesTech unfortunately not. G15 amd + 3070 is equal to M16 intel + 3060. Or better screen or better gpu. I think I go with g15. But here is again issue: g15 3070 or more expensive 3080? :)
@@anjeymartyn9027 I have heard the 3080 G15 doesn’t offer enough improvement to justify the higher price, but if money isn’t an issue, go for it!
This video only appeared after I purchased the laptop. So I'm glad I make the right choice. The Legion was 500usd cheaper than the G15, but the specs were also less than G15. 3060 compared to 3070 and amd 7 vs 9. I thought overall G15 looks more decent than Legion
Yeah the 3070 is a nice upgrade, definitely worth it!
@@JoshCravesTech But for playing D2r, might be overkill. Still likes the looks of G15, Maybe a M16 will be better. or x17. or S17 😉
@@cottonuke I love the M16. If the 3070 version comes to the US I might get it!
There must be an issue somewhere, the RTX3070 in that G15 is limited to 95watts and should perform in warzone very close to a 90watt limited RTX3060. (Available in the same design)
The Lenovo should perform way better, did Lenovo hide a full fan speed mode at some stupid place ore something?
Yeah the G15 can boost up to 100 watts. You would think that the Legion 5 Pro would perform a lot better with 140 watts, but that is not the case unfortunately. Lenovo doesn’t allow manual fan control so who knows if it’s a thermal limitation or what it could be.
considering how the legion 5 pro is a couple hundred dollars more its no question really
what a content bro, very amazing and detailed.
Thank you!!
great video ! I just snagged a g15, with the 3080, any thoughts on upgrading the ram ?
Nice!! I’m going to put out a video here soon on upgrading the ram. My recommendation is to add 16gb for a total of 24GB. This is the ram I went with after a good bit of research: www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q8TNXKP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_FNYHHC316JVZZ49VA28Q?psc=1
@@JoshCravesTech awesome looking forward to the video thanks !
Looking to buy a gaming laptop for 1440p. Great video thank you!
The dislikes are telling me that people must obviously be upset that I like the G15 more… Like I said in the video, I really wanted to hop aboard the Lenovo train but there is just simply not enough (or much of any at all) gains in performance to justify purchasing it over the lighter and more premium G15. Especially with current prices. However at the end of the day both of these machines are BEASTS and if I found a good deal, I’d definitely take either one. Now stop hating, lol
Its from the legion fanboys lol
like an msi and legion 5 pro owner i can tell you, that legion 5 pro is really rubbish. Built quality just okay, but not compared to msi. But what is really awfull and no one on youtube saying about it is random freezes and shutdowns because of faily Lenovo software or even hardware. The whole Lenovo forum is writing about this issues, but Lenovo dont fuck about it, just continue to selling a failed laptops and then repair it lol. So if you wanna good and wellmade laptop pick asus or msi one
"The dislikes are telling me that people must obviously be upset that I like the G15 more"
It's not they upset about your review, because basically they do their research and stating the fact that L5 Pro is better than G15 overall. (at least most of them are). You can do your research. I'm not going to do a favor for you, since you can do it yourself.
And if you found similar results after your research, then just stick with it.
You can have your own preference based on your research and testing, but people will agree or disagree it's s up to them, because many people did their research and they're stick with it.
It's just you who can't accept the dislikes, and expect everyone will give like in your videos.
@@macsandre2818 ummm this is my research. I spent hours upon hours with both of these machines side by side. I did this because there isn’t much data out there on either of these in their native resolution and hardly any data out there on the Legion in hybrid mode and G15 in dGPU mode. So here I am, probably one of the few with this data and no one wants to accept it, lol.
The Legion 5 Pro is not better “because it is”. It depends a lot on use-case. To me, the G15 is insanely better, but to someone else, the Legion 5 Pro might be the better choice. But the thing is, for performance I have actual data and benchmarks, and yes I’ve researched both a ton on my own.
@@macsandre2818 yep, if talking about performance it is really better, but quality of made is sucks, i don't think you wanna buy and use a faily laptop, even if he is a faster one, just go and take a look on lenovo forum- a lot of ppl saying that their laptops failed and freezing all the time. I spend a week to setup mine, and still not sure if it gonna work properly, and Lenovo's return policy is looks like a scam- "we won't replace your new faily laptop, but we gonna repair it and make it refurbished." A lot of youtubers been bought by Lenovo and not saying about build and soft\hardware issues. If you wanna performance and ready to fc with lenovos faily soft for atleast a week, or even more(if u gonna repair your new one, lol) - then yeah go with it, but not everyone have a time to do it. I was excited by legion 5 pro performance too, an was upset when i got it. I have an MSI dominator before this one and have a zero issues fo 3 years of using, but Lenovo's laptop have it everyday
Very nice, I appreciate ur efforts on this. Video is but very good by covering all aspects.
I afraid to buy g15 due to hot air to screen. But now its clear. 👍
dude ur clearly biased..
Thanks dude, great review, very honest! The people need it@
Hey Dude, great video , just subbed awsome content , just throwing this out there, if you work out of adobe premier , throw warp stabalizer in on your video and itll get rid of that shake, but honestly just a tip, love the content.
Thank you! Yeah I use warp stabilizer all the time now, lol
You're the Asus fan I believe that bro
Yeah, I like any brand that makes a good product
Nice comparation video. My question is : between these two laptops , which one is best for video editing and graphic design?
The G15 is more color accurate so it would probably be a better choice but both are great still
@@JoshCravesTech my friend owns Legion 5 its too bulky for me, I think g15 suits me for the portability... Thanks you for your recommendation
@@ZaldyZain Yeah the Legion is great but it’s not for everyone! I definitely prefer the better portability
Best review for both the laptops so far..👍
Putting on hybrid mode enables the optimus man
Yes
I had to subscribe after watching this
I'm really struggling to decide which laptop I'll go for next. Help me decide!
Legion 5 Pro or Strix G15 G513QR?
Legion = R7 5800H/RTX 3070/WQHD 165 Hz, 80 Wh battery
Strix = R9 5900HX, RTX 3070/FHD 300 Hz, 90 Wh battery
Legion has MUX switch, webcamera, higher quality screen, higher brightness, 10W higher TDP on GPU and more ports.
Strix has better battery life, higher screen refresh rate, better portability, better keyboard and trackpad, slightly faster processor, better speakers.
I'm traveling to work quite a lot, and the portability and battery life means a bit, but the webcamera also does. I do both editing and gaming, so the Strix will be better for rendering, and the Legion will be better for gaming. Legion has slightly larger screen and higher resolution, which is nice when editing (and gaming, but will impact performance). Strix has 300 Hz refresh rate which is nice when I play CS:GO!
These two laptops are so good at countering eachother 😅 Which one would YOU go for, and why?
Is the QHD Strix available where you live? I’d go for that if so. But the FHD one is still really nice. Honestly you can’t go wrong with either one.
Do you plan to use the laptop’s own keyboard and trackpad often? If so definitely go for the Strix. The Legion’s trackpad is so frustrating to me, lol. Also if you plan on hooking up to an external monitor often then the Strix is a good choice too.
But if you plan on mostly just using the laptop screen itself with an external mouse then the Legion is probably the better choice because of the extra height and brighter, higher res screen.
@@JoshCravesTech Can only get the QHD for the Advantage edition here it seems.
I plan to use the Laptop's keyboard only, and maybe 50/50 between trackpad and mouse.
Such a difficult choice lol, but the WQHD display on the Legion 5 Pro seems to be very nice looking.
Thanks a lot for the reply!
Great vid. The legion boys seem salty though 😂
It just could be a point of perspective, but the port on the G15 are kind of in the way compared to the Legion. Which has most of them tucked away on the back. The same for fan noise. If you lead the heat away to the back, your noise will be considerable less than lead over the screen.
Seems to me that the bias you've got against the Lenovo is quite big. And if compared, both laptops will actually perform quite the same. They are both good build laptops and the issues you've mentioned did not appear with my laptop (L5P).
Complaining that charging with the big powerbrick is just less portable, seems to me a bit off, the cables are just fine, not less flexible than the ones of my other laptops and when you charge, of course your portability will be less, the machine is hooked on the powergrid. I just keep mine laying around, no need to pick it up.
The RAM issue you've dismissed quite easily is just a thing. My L5P was delivered with 32 GB and is still upgradeable when needed. SOmething you just can't do with the G15. If you need more RAM, well that would suck.
About the scaling of the native resolutions, I haven't got any game which did not scale right to this resolutions. It could be that we're not playing the same games but nevertheless this issue is just not that big of a deal and certainly no reason to compare results of different resolutions and performance levels. The L5P needs to drive more pixels, so a drop of FPS is to be expected, You showing that these are still in each other ballpark is a plus for the L5P.
The thermal issue and not being to explain why the 5800 gets hotter that the 5900 is just wattage, there is a 10 watt difference, and it still keeps the cpu at a higher clockrate. And actually the difference between the cpu's in performance is just not that big.
In the SOTTR benchmark the blue led in the powerbutton is visible of the L5P, this is the quiet mode, the low wattage/performance mode. (34m27s). I hope you used the right powersetting for all benchmarks.
To my conclusion, both are good laptops, this review/benchmark leaves some questions to be asked and is probably biased by your own preference. And during typing and looking at your review my L5P never once ramped up with fan noise. The G15 will probably perform the same, considering the lower power usage.
The ports on the back of the Legion, as I said, is cool for some people, but personally I’m not a fan. I’m on the move a good bit (hence why most people buy a laptop in the first place) and plugging things into the side is more convenient. Fan noise, is exactly as I observed. For the Legion, it’s louder for people behind the laptop (or if it’s up against a wall). For the G15, it’s louder for the person in front of the screen, as the fans bounce off the screen. Overall, I’ve found the G15 quieter while gaming, and the silent mode is WAY better at staying quiet, which is a HUGE deal for me.
I don’t have any bias against Lenovo. I had my G15 already and I bought the Legion 5 Pro fully expecting to sell my G15, sacrificing a little portability for performance, and was disappointed to find that it pretty much performs the same. So I’m over here like “Why would I sacrifice all this portability, awesome trackpad, keyboard, etc. for something that’s way chunkier and performs basically the same?” That’s just my opinion. That doesn’t mean the Legion 5 Pro sucks. It’s an awesome laptop still. For the right price, I’d take either one.
It’s no argument though that the Legion 5 Pro is less portable. It simply is. I’ve spent weeks using both. The cable is thick and not flexible. The charging brick is massive. There’s no arguing that, lol.
The Legion 5 Pro with 32Gb doesn’t usually have the slow ram timings. The G15 having one stick soldered is a dealbreaker for some people, but I’ve never had an issue with 16GB. I edit all my videos and it works fine with no lag or ram bottleneck. I can always upgrade to 24gb or 40gb if needed and still get dual channel performance from the first 16gb.
As for resolution, not every game supports 16:10, especially older titles. Some games just zoom in, some stretch it vertically, and others have black bars. This isn’t the majority of games, but it’s definitely a thing. As for comparing at native res, I’d have to disagree with you. Watch my most recent video. I have more tests in 1440p on the Legion 5 Pro. Although most people won’t play in that resolution, it gains very little from dropping to 1440p and sometimes even loses fps by doing so.
The Legion runs hotter in temps, yeah. The G15 has liquid metal and a more efficient CPU so yes that’s no surprise. Even when the G15 reaches higher clocks the CPU stays relatively cooler than the Legion at similar clock speeds.
I did use the right settings in Shadow of the Tomb Raider. The footage you’re talking about is just b-roll of when I ran it in quiet mode, not what was used for that actual test.
I’m glad your Legion’s fans aren’t randomly ramping up. Mine and several others I’ve asked have had the same issue though, even in quiet mode. It doesn’t happen in 5 or 10 minutes, usually every 15-30 minutes of normal use. Maybe staying in hybrid mode helps, but a lot of people don’t like to be in hybrid mode on the L5P.
You were just paid to let g15 win this lmao g15 is complete trash compared to legion 5 pro
Yeah man Asus totally paid me with my 100 subscribers 😂 I can’t believe people are actually saying this, lol
@@JoshCravesTech yooo my guy you just got 100 subs damnn according to the quality of your video yuo deserve frikin alots of subs man ,,,here is mine I'll share your video to get you more subs. Anyways I did'nt even watch the entire video but I only commented because you were more focusing about the keyboard and mousepad design like that isn't a big issue for me like we are already used to keyboards like legion is its not too bad and I have heard alot about legion from my friends man they get a pretty good battery backup too unlike what you described in battery backup section anyways man I wish you best of luck with your channel.
@@miw879 appreciate it man! Yeah these are all just my preferences. I’m going to upload a video soon with only gaming benchmarks for those who don’t care about design and all that. Cause honestly we all have our own preferences and everyone just gets mad when it doesn’t fit their own opinion lol 😂
@@JoshCravesTech lmao exactly hahah
3:30 RGB on the Asus G15? I thought it only had white backlit keys? According to other reviews I saw like from Dave2D and LTT they said it only had white lit keys. I am confused, does the black g15 come with RGB but not the white version?
Depends on the country and model. In the US it has RGB! And the white model only has white lit keys.
@@JoshCravesTech cool! I didn't know that, thanks for the info :)
great, down to the ground review...
I have L5P
Fan noise common problem with windows laptop. So, that never a factor in my decision.
Why I chose L5P:
Build quality, nice and solid. Combination of aluminum and good plastic.
Ports arrangement, none come close to this. One type C on the left, one type A at the right, the rest are behind.
Cursor keys are normal size and well separated from adjacent keys, again rare to see this.
Keypad is a must for me. It helps a lot with my daily use and work.
Well thought fn keys combo, easy to change kb light profile, change framerate, change power profile, and the usual combos.
I never realise 16:10 can be a pleasure to look and work with, that small extra space makes a lot of difference
Compared to Asus, Lenovo still priced reasonably within my budget for similar spec.
Design and look wise, it is sleek, clean and express sturdiness without being too "loud"
This laptop does not attract fingerprints and smudges easily! Trust me! I hate those dirty looks
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What might put you off from this:
It is heavy especially with that extra 300w brick
Default so-dimm is slow, will affect performance. If you want to maximise L5P potential, have to buy new so-dimm
720p front cam... but it is hard to find windows laptop that can match apple camera
Speaker n mic, again same reason as above
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In the end, I'm happy and satisfied with my purchase. Never look back.
Fan noise is common in gaming laptops but it's nice that the G15 is able to run on silent in a classroom or cafe if need be. I agree with you though on the those pros and cons for the L5P. Obviously subjectively I wasn't too crazy about some of them and some of the cons annoyed me more, but I wouldn't regret it honestly with either of these machines. They're both amazing laptops and it really just comes down to your personal preferences on which is better suited for you
@@JoshCravesTech lol you will never game in classroom. Why are you disliking lenovo ? Lol.
@@warlord135 I’m not talking about gaming in a classroom, lol 😂 I’m talking about just basic stuff, internet browsing, etc. the fans randomly ramped up quite a bit on Lenovo when I was doing stuff like that which would be kind of embarrassing in a classroom setting. I don’t have anything against Lenovo, it’s an awesome laptop! Either one is a great choice, but people should understand that they’re not for everyone, they’re a bit overhyped but that’s not Lenovo’s fault.
@@JoshCravesTech idk my laptop's fan won't ramp up randomly. I tried . You can also use the Quite mode. I never faced that prb thats why I thought that
:)
@@warlord135 yeah I tested it in quiet mode and it would just be random that it would ramp up oddly loud whereas the fans in the G15 might occasionally turn on but extremely quietly. But yeah could just be my units but I’ve heard the same from other owners to make sure. It’s good that yours doesn’t though!
for me, 1500 Eur for the Legion 5, 2500 Eur for the G15.
I'd prefer the G15, but the quality of life improvements over the lenovo aint worth the extra 1000 Euros
I wish the g15 had the aspect ratio of Lenovo it would have been perfect...
You should check out the Zephyrus M16 and the ROG Flow x16. The x16 is expensive but the specs and design are just amazing.
@@JoshCravesTech got my hands on the m16 its full hd but damn that thing look’s gorgeous!
I don't really use track pad when mouse exist. So i just deactivated it and that exhaust below screen in g15 is a nightmare for me since i live in SEA with no AC
Yeah if you’re not using the trackpad then you’re better off. People have mined crypto for weeks straight on the G15 on max power and have had no issues with the exhaust. If someone had something happen to the bezel it’s pretty much because there was already underlying issues
@@JoshCravesTech Yea. For really heavy stuff g15 is better but if really tight in budget and just casual use and game l5p is a good choice compare to others
Hi, do you think a cooling pad will help even more the g15?. Because there are no holes, just for the fans. Do you think it would make it worse?
I’ve heard some people say it helps a little bit, but I don’t think it’s that worth it personally since the back already lifts up
@@JoshCravesTech wow you answered fast, thank you :p
People talk about the wattage but seeing the comparison seems almost no difference
Yeah wattage has been way overhyped. It’s not a huge difference. Bypassing Nvidia Optimus usually makes more of a difference. And at 1080p, better ram also helps.
Thank you for calling out all those people that just praise the lenovo legion and shit on the Zephyrus for no reason. G15 all the way... It just looks and keyboard and trackpad are way better. Only thing is if it had a 16:10 display..
i love the edits
I actually got a G15 with a 3080 for only 2199 euros. I love Black friday!
A steal!! Nice 👍
Does hp omen 15 3070 compare to the L5pro 3070? Or performance wise is it better to get the non pro legion 5 3070? Would really like the qhd and both l5pro and omen15 have it but it legion 5 performance is better I’m tempted to just get that… thoughts? It’s nice that those laptops also have a webcam, removing the need to buy an additional webcam/carrying that around). I do a lot of cad, 3D modelling, rendering, photoshop and also some animation(ue4, premiere, etc). I do have a powerful 3080 pc build at home but need something good to work on when going to uni (budget £ 1500-1700). Really want a l5pro but still no stock and not sure when they’re releasing).
Yeah, I have benchmarks in this video of the Omen 15! It’s the FHD one, but the QHD one should perform very similar to the G15. I loved the Omen. It is much more portable than the Legion 5 Pro, but it is more plastic though so keep that in mind. As long as you’re careful with it, it’s a great choice. I do a ton of Photoshop and Premiere Pro on my G15 and I love it. If you already have a desktop at home, I’d recommend a more portable laptop like the G15 or Omen, especially since you can use your PC’s monitor to get more performance.
I just came across this video while searching for help with my G15. I think maybe I got one of those outlyers that Asus QC missed. Mine has a RTX3080 in it however I cannot get more than 30FPS consistently in Halo Infinite or Warzone. I've done tons of troubleshooting too, cleaned old drivers, tried current driver from Nvidia 497.09 at time of writing this as well as removing and trying older driver from back in Sept. And when I say running at 30fps that's lowering to 1080p while also turning all settings to low. I think its time for an RMA on this one. I really have been loving the laptop for work (3D art creation) but after I started gaming with it just a couple months ago I began to get really worried, now I just think its got a serious problem with the GPU.
Sounds like you’re running on the iGPU. Does it show the RTX 3070 in Armoury crate and device manager?
I bought a 3060 Aero. Ill just wait a few years. When the Standard is 4k Screens with i guess Nivida 6000 series whenever that comes out. 🤷🏻♂️
So I have to be prepared to spend 99usd on Ram for the legion 5 but the soldered low capacity RAM magically makes any uneven RAM addition free?
This ain't a "neutral" review.. is it?
No one said you had to upgrade your ram on the G15. 16gb is fine for most people. 24gb runs great as well, I made a whole video on that.
@@JoshCravesTech Sure ..but you do have to add at least 8GB to the more expensive Zephyrus (2200usd for the 3060 8GB 1TB)..yet for some reason that's ok but spending 99 on the 1350usd Legion 5 with a 3070 and 1TB+1TB is an issue? You can even sell the included Samsung ram for 60usd..
What it seems is you are trying really hard to disqualify one of the best devices on the market.
@@absolutium I mean I got the G15 for $300 less than the Legion here in the US. I spent like $60 on a good 16gb DDR4 stick of ram for 24gb and it works great. Not sure what you’re on about, but I’d probably take the Legion given the two prices you just gave. Just depends on what you want in a laptop. They’re both great.
what did you use to show the gpu and cpu temps?
MSI Afterburner
Thanks for the review, still not sure what laptop to buy. Will buy a 2021 because you get so much more for you money.
BUT the big but here is the price. Please compare a Asus laptop in the same price range as the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro and show ous the results. Is there even an Asus with 3070 in that price range?
I’m in the US so these are usually about the same price here depending on the sale.
If you find one significantly cheaper than the other then I’d just say go for it. Both are still great laptops.
I’m in the US so these are usually about the same price here depending on the sale.
If you find one significantly cheaper than the other then I’d just say go for it. Both are still great laptops.
Wonderful review.
I own the 2022 g15 with the 3060 and can tell you guys it’s amazing.
8:34 no Patrick, the legion 5 pro's trackpad is not an instrument
In many reviews (like the LTT one) it is recommended to get the 3070 g15 because of the lower power limit.
When you used the external display, the results were identical to the full power rtx 3070m legion.
Can you get identical results (vs full power model) from the g15 with the rtx 3080m using the external display?
I'm debating getting the 3070 G15 vs 3080 G15
I would personally stick with the 3070 as that gets you the most bang for your buck. I have seen the 3080 G15 get over 11k in Timespy though on an external monitor so take that as you will. Maybe not a huge improvement, but there is an improvement.
@@JoshCravesTech thanks Josh!
Do you know the technical reason behind why using an external display, the G15 becomes full power?
@@lynch7 because of g15 doesn't have mux switch
I just hope it had a webcam
Yeah, I wish they did too. The cool thing though is Asus Link software lets the laptop treat your phone as it’s webcam, and it works well. The Zephyrus M16 has a webcam, but it’s more expensive :/