It's a fantastic solution to a very real problem guys, but $300? This is a $50 part st best. How much does production cost for these, $10? Come on. $300 isn't unreasonable; it's insane.
tops for that maybe $150 and thats pushing it. 40cent piece of hose, a breather filter 6 bucks and a quick release 6 bucks and a modified HD oil dipstick $60 if you are good with tools modify your own for probably under $20 bucks
those idiots selling them are dicksticks! thats real smart tie the breather right under the bike in front of the rear wheel. wtf ever. just drain the engine and you never have to worry about oil leaks. duh. sure we got the money to buy an engine every time it starts and locks up. sure beats a 300 frickin dollar dickstick.
@Just J GO BACK IN TIME. IM 61 AND CAN REMEMBER FOLLOWING CARS UP THE ROAD AND SEE A BREATHER HOSE HANGING DOWN UNDER THE CARE PUFFIN CRANCASE SMOKE. I COULD ALWAYS KNOW THE DIFFERENCE WITH A CAR WITH BLOW BY. MY OLD MAN HAD A OLD FORD PANEL TRUCK AND IT HAD BLOW BY. IT WAS AN UPSIDE DOWN LOCOMOTIVE. ALL HE SAID WAS AS LONG AS THERE WAS OIL THE ENGINE HAD GOOD LUBRICATION. AND IF IT WASN'T PUFFIN SMOKE THE ENGINE WAS EITHER COOKED OR HE NEEDED TO ADD A FEW MORE QUARTS. AND IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GO FOR ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO. I HAVE A ROAD KING WITH HIGH FLOW AIR CLEANER. THE PREATHER HOSES NEVER GAVE ME A PROBLEM. UNTIL I TRIED TO QUIET DOEN THE EXHAUST. I REALIZED I HAD APPLIED TOO MUCH BACK PRESSURE AND NOTICED OIL DRIPPING FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE AIR CLEANER. I WENT AND CHANGED BAFFLES TO LESS RESTRICTION AND THE OIL PROBLEM WENT AWAY. IT SEEMS TO BE A BALANCE PROBLEM BETWEEN THE HIGH FLOW K&N INTAKE FILTER AND EXHAUST BACK PRESSURE ALSO THERE WAS A SPACER WITH THE FILTER KIT THAT MOVED THE BREATHER HOSES FURTHER AWAY FROM THE INTAKE. OBVIOUSLY THERES A CERTAIN POINT WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY CREATE A PROBLEM TRYING TO MONKEY AROUND FROM THE FACTORY SETUP. I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF SUCKING CRANKCASE OIL INTO THE INTAKE. ITS LIKE RUNNING A TWO STROKE. WHEN ITS NOT. I AGREE. REROUTE THE BREATHER GAS SOMEWHERE SOMEHOW. THE OIL CAP SETUP IS A GOOD IDEA. IM IN THE PROCESS OF ADDING A 1.8 ECOBOOST TURBO BREATHER BYPASS KIT ON THE DAMN CAR. AND MY EQUINOX HAS A REAL SCREWED UP PCV SYSTEM AS WELL WHICH I FOUND OUT THEY ARE USING OIL FILL BREATHER CAPS. BUT THEY MADE SOME KIND OF FUNKY INTAKE THAT CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH BLOCKAGE. IF I DIDN'T KNOW BETTER THEY KEEP TRYING TO INVENT CRAP THAT JUST DON'T WORK. EVEN USING AFTERMARKET CATCH CAN ADD ON KITS. ITS TOTALLY CRAP. NOW CHEVY BOLTS ARE BEING TOLD TO CHARGE THE CARS OUTSIDE DUE TO OVERCHARGING. THERE IS A COUNTRY THAT IS STOCK PILING ELECTRIC CARS BECAUSE THE BATTERIES ONLY LAST 3-5 YEARS AND ITS LIKE 9 GRAND TO REPLACE THE BATTERIES, A CHARGER AND SOME OTHER PARTS I THINK A MODULE JUST TO GET IT FIXED AND THE PEOPLE THERE I THINK IN INDIA DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY CRAPPER PAPER. TESLA IS A DAMN JOKE COFFIN, CREMATION ON WHEELS. YET NOBODY SHOWS WHAT HAPPENES WHEN LITHIUM PAPER GETS WET OR BURNS. ITS LIKE A ROAD FLARE BURNING. WHAT A JOKE. NOW FORD HAS A F-150 ELECTRIC PICKUP. MAN I CAN;T IMAGINE WHAT THATS GONNA BE LIKE. IT EVEN POWERS A HOUSE. I RESEARCHED DIESEL ELECTRIC CARS WITH A SINGLE GENEREATOR WITH AN ELECTRIC DRIVE MOTOR COUPLED TO CV JOINTS AS A POWER SOLUTION. LOCOMOTIVES HAVE USED THEM FOR YEARS AND CUMMINS HAS A SYSTEM THAT CAN GET 100 MPG. THE ANSWERS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. YET THE KEEP BUILDING CLAMORE MINE CARS.
Can gauze pad be used as filter element during service to moto or do you all supply a filter element for sale. Will this stop the oil misting out of the air cleaner on the 2012 TC 103 or just relive the idea of oil going into the primary?
No, it will not. To prevent hot, oily, oxygen depleted air from going into your throttle body and combustion chambers you will need and External Breather System (EBS) like what's seen here- www.dkcustomproducts.com/breather-systems-c21.htm
@@DKCustomProducts Good thing DK is here answering questions for these guys. What’s up with that? They need to realize this is a great opportunity to clarify questions. Maybe they would get less phone calls with basic questions tying them up all day.
@@johnnyturbo8460 We have many EBS options to fit the M8 Baggers, which include the Ultra Limited 114. Which one to use depends on what air cleaner you are running. You can contact us with that info or a photo and we will let you know which ones will fit.
A guy at Stugis wanted to sell a $250.00 oil filter. And I thought that was funny. It is a great idea and looks like it should work, at $300 a pop. I will clean my filter every year and be happy. Come on Bro at $150.00 you will still make money and sell a whole lot of these.
I purchased one of these dip sticks. It is well made but, after using it for a few months, I removed it from my bike. It made no discernible difference on my bike. I ended up with a DK custom set up, now my air cleaner is dry with no more oil laden vapors getting sucked into the throttle body.
Hard to believe such an expensive bike has such a problem with oiling and crankcase pressure that requires such elaborate and costly aftermarket solutions. How long has Harley been making bikes? This seems like a simple engineering problem that should not be an issue coming from the factory.
Well it's an imaginary problem. Believe it or not the motorcycle has breathers that vent excess pressure already on the motorcycle. The 'issue' is that the EPA does not let Harley, or any other manufacturer, vent to atmosphere. That means the breathers vent into the intake. This ensures that all gasses are going to end up going through exhaust. What people dislike is the fact that when these breathers are working there is the possibility of atomized oil entering the intake. If all of this oil is not sucked in by the intake you get what is called blow by and oil actually escapes the intake and gets stuck in the air filter or flies out of the air filter and onto the bike. All of these 'fixes' are unnecessary and to my knowledge there are no data driven analysis that support the need for something like this. If blow by is such a huge problem a really easy fix is to ensure that your oil is not filled to maximum capacity or higher.
@@batglide5484 blow by is from bad rings. Oil from the crank case being pushed into the cylinder. The M8 and TC can push too much oil through the breathers and it introduces more than just air into the cylinder. Most guys will never notice it but anyone that actually runs their bike hard will end up with excess carbon build up on the piston and valves. This ends up being a problem way down the road assuming normal conditions. HD allows problems to happen so they can sell the solution via screamin eagle. Can you fix it cheaper? Yes but the part of that question thats more important than cost is the fix. $10 spent vs $400 is great until the motor locks up from oil starvation. Most parts cost stupid amounts for 3 reasons: name, R&D, materials. Buy it or don't, no difference to me
@@kjknuth9127 the blow by pushes excess vapors and oil into the intake through the breather bolts. That's the exact purpose of the breather bolts. When people complain about blow by on their Harleys they are complaining about the oil exiting the air filter and hitting their bike or pants, or they are complaining about excess carbon buildup. Firstly, oil vapor in the air fuel mixture does not contribute meaningfully to carbon buildup. Engines vented to atmosphere still get the same amount of carbon buildup. Secondly, excess crank case pressure is already being vented out of the breather bolts. That is their purpose. Every motor company uses some form of breather bolt setup to relive excess crank case pressure, cars usually use PCV. To solve the issue of excess oil entering the intake and possibly not entering the combustion chamber as designed would be to integrate a catch can of some type between the breather bolt and the intake. If you can show me quantitative data that proves that the breather bolts are not venting enough crank case pressure and that this aftermarket product does, I'll eat my words. But I've looked it up and I can't find any evidence if either.
@@batglide5484 then don't buy the product it's basic economics. There's a reason that companies have went this route and a reason motors are blowing up from the factory. I don't know either and I suspect neither do you but I can about guarantee it's the same reason
@@kjknuth9127 uhm motors aren't blowing up from the factory. Even when they had sumping issues, that only affected a small minority of all M8s being produced at the time and that problem has been fixed for years now. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about, but if you want to spend hundreds of dollars on a modification that won't increase performance, reliability or even look cool then that's up to you little buddy. 🤡🤡🤡
This is, without a doubt, the best quality part on the market to simply relieve pressure from your Crankcase. We initially only ran these on our Performance Builds. We now run them on every bike we own, 5 M8's, and they have a noticeable impact on all of them, from Stock CVO Streetglide to a 135HP Stage IV Bagger with a 550 Cam. You immediately notice a better sounding engine, mechanically. It helped us realize just how much pressure is being produced and the stress it must be causing. There are cheaper parts, but nothing is better, more well thought out, or close to this quality.
That's what gets me...people buy these 20K PLUS priced bikes and then proceed to bolt on the cheapest aftermarket parts they can find. I agree this is pricey, but how it is designed and reportedly performs, seems very worth it if you plan on keeping your ride for a long time. Seems like cheap insurance to me in the long run...certainly less than a single typical oil change service at the dealership!
@@zonktified1247 that is exactly how we feel. Harley deals with the EPA and builds the best machine within the confines of their bullshit. It is up to Dealers and owners to decide how those regulations impact our bikes.
materials, labor, testing, marketing and design is what drives the price. if you have a fusion 360 software, a mini mill and lathe. you could make your own. just sayin.. larry
I have a '22 low rider st and after my 1000 mile service my dipstick has been puking oil out of the filter - why would it do that ? I installed it when the bike was new and it hadn't leaked until after the first service. When I took it apart the pads that were in it were soaked with oil. And I'm wondering if the valve opens up too easily once they get two pads saturated with oil?
if you don't apply too much exhaust backpressure you're engine won't blow oil. neither will over filling it. just hook a copper tube right at the head pipe from the head breathers. it will burn the oil and puke it out the exhaust. like Indian Larry preached add a gizmo and fix the dam thing! so who cares if its puffin smoke. that way everyone will know where you're at. even the Navajo during smoke signal exercises!
I paid the 301$ for the kit delivered from Dennis Kirk. Came with a scratched cap and has a chip where the connector screws in for the hose. Not sure how that can pass the QC ... Trying to get a replacement cap from either Feuling or DK right now. Frustrating that I have to deal with this and cannot install the part as I cannot break the shipping bags . Not sure what to think about all of this .. .
Great Product. Could of drilled a hole in the original dipstick used a brake bleeder fitting. This fueling vented dipstick is super classy and custom. I Love it!
One of the first things I did to my 2001 Fatboy when it was new, was install a Gear Drive and a fueling oil pump. I then put over 50,000 miles on it before I upgraded to the fueling cam plate and lifters.
“Wow! That price though”. My Crossbones stick pops out on start up( it’s not threaded). It was chance that I seen this vidga and thought “problem solved! “ But Not for $279.95. I’ll keep holding it.
Harley Davidson gave us a better and more powerful engine without solving the same oil pressure flow problem they’ve had for all their motors. Government EPA regulations is why they can’t fix it. I’ll be adding Fueling’s dipstick with line filter to my Harley this year, BUT I still have one big question? Should you run ventilating dipstick during a DYNO tune?
I don’t have access to a CNC but I’ve got my hobbyist lathes, mills and a shaper. With a bit of stainless and a few odds and ends, I’m pretty sure I could produce my own custom version.
Great quality product for my Lowrider FXLR but the design of the cap is very difficult to have a good grasp of the dipstick to unscrew, with a stock exhaust, it would have been great if you have considered this, not all harleys own a 2 into 1 exhaust.
@@1862anthony that why there telling people with 17 18 19 to up grade there oil pumps to 2020 oil pump that when Harley put in a lot better oil pump so you have the better oil pump in your 22 ihave a 18 ultra limited want 1500 to 1800 put new pump in I think I keep driving it and hope I don't have problems with it have 30 thousand miles on it
@@garyposthuma9607 Nice, good to know your ride going good, good news. And thanks for info, one less headache I need, dealing with NY traffic is bad enough.
I’m noticing on your softail m8 dipstick you have a single o ring. i was sent one third party that has 2 o rings for my heritage classic and have been problems with the cap leaking all down my bike since i got it. did they sent me one for a touring m8 ? the oil level is good and line routing correct. do i just have the wrong model ?
Don't understand how mounting under the frame does not compromise the filter with rain water or mud without plugging up the filter. Does Feuling sell replacement filters now?
High quality part. BUT, the Feuling instructions (including this video) are not appropriate for an M8 Softail. Routing the hose was a big challenge; took me 3+ hours to install. Calling tech help line was not too helpful. You will need at least 6 more locking zip ties than the 2 included in kit in order to route the hose and secure it so it won't wander or chafe or interfere operation of other parts, including the side stand.
I bought one of these for my 2020 softail and it works great....I rode about 50 miles and engine seemed to run better and I used just the filter on top of the cap and didn't have any seepage or misting.
@@MadMexism also reduces octane rating making knock more prevalent on a hot engine, dirties up valves, and adds a coat of oil buildup on top of pistons which increases compression… making knock even more possible.
Unfortunately we do not offer any Twin Cam softail fitment for our Vented Dipsticks due to variance in seating positions and potential for rider leg contact. We would love to help you combat any excessive crankcase pressure issues you may be having, give us a call and we'll get you dialed in! (866) 966-9767
On my 2005 Heritage classic, I just drilled a small hole straight into the top of the stock Oil Tank Cap/dip stick. After an engine rebuild, going (from 88 up to 104 CI), my cap literally blew off the tank while riding. So far this is working good, for a shade tree fixer. Is there a required amount of oil pressure that should be in the Oil Tank? Anyone?
That would or will be stolen so fast…I would highly recommend keeping with you at all times cause you will be screwed when you get back to your bike and find no oil dipstick…
I just bought a 2020 fatboy, and was having inconsistent oil readings on the dip stick. I finally started doing some research and found this video in which you mention the oil pump being on the right hand side and running the engine while on the jiffy will cause oil to be kicked into the crankcase. My question is how do I get that oil back? I know I'm not short oil but the dipstik says I am, so how do I get that oil back? I've tried and can seem to get it back, what I did was run my bike into normal operating temperature remove the crankcase sensor let out all the oil and the refill to correct level! There's something absolutely wrong with having to do this tho! I'm taking the bike into the shop! Any recommendations as to what to mention to the techs?
I think I know why, but I'd rather hear from someone like yourselves who are more knowledgeable. You obviously went through the trouble of utilizing a one-way flap valve in your design for a reason. why is that valve required because I've seen another similar cap that doesn't have one? thanks.
I have a 95ci twin cam. Will this eliminate the need for the head bolts? I was thinking of doing a catch can. can I just do this instead and replace the head breather bolts with solid. Object is no oil in the intake.
i recently installed one on my 2017 M8 and I'm still getting a little oil in the air cleaner. I've read that other guys are removing half a quart of oil after installing the dip stick to help with the issue. Do you guys recommend doing that? * i mean removing half a quart of oil from what the factory recommends
Nah, I had two. One on my softail, and one on my road glide. Been to all types of places. No problem. The whole bike would get stolen before the dipstick. That did cross my mind at one point though. So I feel you.
By routing the breather hose up under the seat before going back down under the frame you are only venting vapor with very minimal oil content. You are riding across more oil residue when you ride 10 ft on the pavement.
What did you do? I have a 2013 Streetglide. For the crank breathers i just ran hoses into a small bottle in the air cleaner. They had expensive options but that seemed silly.
@@nobodysreview6137 it's a nipple,hose and filter shown in the kit here. Only you can buy that stuff at auto zone for like 10$ . Tip put the filter up high and you dont need the valve. But if you think you do you can buy that for next to nothing. I dont believe in letting someone extort me for Harley parts. I could show you a really cool oil cooler for 60$ too ,fan assist. Also auto parts. They want 500$ for. Back in the day we built all our own shit.you didn't get a (kit) for anything.
I already have the polished cap and complete dipstick. Is there anyway I can buy just the black cap ? Blacked out the bike and the polished doesn’t match.
Ditch the dipstick Buy a Honda.... Better bike Buy Japanese not Chinese.. Harley made in China.. Look it up By the time you plug the hole back up with all that restriction... The vent isn't worth a damn.
It's a fantastic solution to a very real problem guys, but $300? This is a $50 part st best. How much does production cost for these, $10? Come on. $300 isn't unreasonable; it's insane.
tops for that maybe $150 and thats pushing it. 40cent piece of hose, a breather filter 6 bucks and a quick release 6 bucks and a modified HD oil dipstick $60 if you are good with tools modify your own for probably under $20 bucks
I was interested in this until I looked up the price. A $300.00 dipstick? Come on man!
HARLEY DAVIDSON SHOULD PAY FOR THIS .......MAKES ME MAD THAT HD WOULDN'T HAVE FIXED THIS PROBLEM.....
237,95 ss custom cycle
Meeep. Pass
those idiots selling them are dicksticks! thats real smart tie the breather right under the bike in front of the rear wheel. wtf ever. just drain the engine and you never have to worry about oil leaks. duh. sure we got the money to buy an engine every time it starts and locks up. sure beats a 300 frickin dollar dickstick.
@Just J GO BACK IN TIME. IM 61 AND CAN REMEMBER FOLLOWING CARS UP THE ROAD AND SEE A BREATHER HOSE HANGING DOWN UNDER THE CARE PUFFIN CRANCASE SMOKE. I COULD ALWAYS KNOW THE DIFFERENCE WITH A CAR WITH BLOW BY. MY OLD MAN HAD A OLD FORD PANEL TRUCK AND IT HAD BLOW BY. IT WAS AN UPSIDE DOWN LOCOMOTIVE. ALL HE SAID WAS AS LONG AS THERE WAS OIL THE ENGINE HAD GOOD LUBRICATION. AND IF IT WASN'T PUFFIN SMOKE THE ENGINE WAS EITHER COOKED OR HE NEEDED TO ADD A FEW MORE QUARTS. AND IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GO FOR ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO. I HAVE A ROAD KING WITH HIGH FLOW AIR CLEANER. THE PREATHER HOSES NEVER GAVE ME A PROBLEM. UNTIL I TRIED TO QUIET DOEN THE EXHAUST. I REALIZED I HAD APPLIED TOO MUCH BACK PRESSURE AND NOTICED OIL DRIPPING FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE AIR CLEANER. I WENT AND CHANGED BAFFLES TO LESS RESTRICTION AND THE OIL PROBLEM WENT AWAY. IT SEEMS TO BE A BALANCE PROBLEM BETWEEN THE HIGH FLOW K&N INTAKE FILTER AND EXHAUST BACK PRESSURE ALSO THERE WAS A SPACER WITH THE FILTER KIT THAT MOVED THE BREATHER HOSES FURTHER AWAY FROM THE INTAKE. OBVIOUSLY THERES A CERTAIN POINT WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY CREATE A PROBLEM TRYING TO MONKEY AROUND FROM THE FACTORY SETUP. I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF SUCKING CRANKCASE OIL INTO THE INTAKE. ITS LIKE RUNNING A TWO STROKE. WHEN ITS NOT. I AGREE. REROUTE THE BREATHER GAS SOMEWHERE SOMEHOW. THE OIL CAP SETUP IS A GOOD IDEA. IM IN THE PROCESS OF ADDING A 1.8 ECOBOOST TURBO BREATHER BYPASS KIT ON THE DAMN CAR. AND MY EQUINOX HAS A REAL SCREWED UP PCV SYSTEM AS WELL WHICH I FOUND OUT THEY ARE USING OIL FILL BREATHER CAPS. BUT THEY MADE SOME KIND OF FUNKY INTAKE THAT CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH BLOCKAGE. IF I DIDN'T KNOW BETTER THEY KEEP TRYING TO INVENT CRAP THAT JUST DON'T WORK. EVEN USING AFTERMARKET CATCH CAN ADD ON KITS. ITS TOTALLY CRAP. NOW CHEVY BOLTS ARE BEING TOLD TO CHARGE THE CARS OUTSIDE DUE TO OVERCHARGING. THERE IS A COUNTRY THAT IS STOCK PILING ELECTRIC CARS BECAUSE THE BATTERIES ONLY LAST 3-5 YEARS AND ITS LIKE 9 GRAND TO REPLACE THE BATTERIES, A CHARGER AND SOME OTHER PARTS I THINK A MODULE JUST TO GET IT FIXED AND THE PEOPLE THERE I THINK IN INDIA DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY CRAPPER PAPER. TESLA IS A DAMN JOKE COFFIN, CREMATION ON WHEELS. YET NOBODY SHOWS WHAT HAPPENES WHEN LITHIUM PAPER GETS WET OR BURNS. ITS LIKE A ROAD FLARE BURNING. WHAT A JOKE. NOW FORD HAS A F-150 ELECTRIC PICKUP. MAN I CAN;T IMAGINE WHAT THATS GONNA BE LIKE. IT EVEN POWERS A HOUSE. I RESEARCHED DIESEL ELECTRIC CARS WITH A SINGLE GENEREATOR WITH AN ELECTRIC DRIVE MOTOR COUPLED TO CV JOINTS AS A POWER SOLUTION. LOCOMOTIVES HAVE USED THEM FOR YEARS AND CUMMINS HAS A SYSTEM THAT CAN GET 100 MPG. THE ANSWERS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. YET THE KEEP BUILDING CLAMORE MINE CARS.
Can gauze pad be used as filter element during service to moto or do you all supply a filter element for sale. Will this stop the oil misting out of the air cleaner on the 2012 TC 103 or just relive the idea of oil going into the primary?
A genius idea and a true problem solver.
Will this prevent blow by getting into the air cleaner? You should have included an oil temp gauge!
No, it will not. To prevent hot, oily, oxygen depleted air from going into your throttle body and combustion chambers you will need and External Breather System (EBS) like what's seen here- www.dkcustomproducts.com/breather-systems-c21.htm
@@DKCustomProducts I was wondering the same thing. Thanks for the link
@@DKCustomProducts I assume the unit labeled "m8 bagger" will fit the Ultra Limited 114cc?
@@DKCustomProducts Good thing DK is here answering questions for these guys. What’s up with that? They need to realize this is a great opportunity to clarify questions. Maybe they would get less phone calls with basic questions tying them up all day.
@@johnnyturbo8460 We have many EBS options to fit the M8 Baggers, which include the Ultra Limited 114. Which one to use depends on what air cleaner you are running. You can contact us with that info or a photo and we will let you know which ones will fit.
A guy at Stugis wanted to sell a $250.00 oil filter. And I thought that was funny. It is a great idea and looks like it should work, at $300 a pop. I will clean my filter every year and be happy. Come on Bro at $150.00 you will still make money and sell a whole lot of these.
I purchased one of these dip sticks. It is well made but, after using it for a few months, I removed it from my bike. It made no discernible difference on my bike. I ended up with a DK custom set up, now my air cleaner is dry with no more oil laden vapors getting sucked into the throttle body.
Only a dip stick would pay $300 for a dip stick, when one can reroute the breather for about $7.00, and avoid being a dip stick.
Hard to believe such an expensive bike has such a problem with oiling and crankcase pressure that requires such elaborate and costly aftermarket solutions. How long has Harley been making bikes? This seems like a simple engineering problem that should not be an issue coming from the factory.
Well it's an imaginary problem. Believe it or not the motorcycle has breathers that vent excess pressure already on the motorcycle. The 'issue' is that the EPA does not let Harley, or any other manufacturer, vent to atmosphere. That means the breathers vent into the intake. This ensures that all gasses are going to end up going through exhaust. What people dislike is the fact that when these breathers are working there is the possibility of atomized oil entering the intake. If all of this oil is not sucked in by the intake you get what is called blow by and oil actually escapes the intake and gets stuck in the air filter or flies out of the air filter and onto the bike. All of these 'fixes' are unnecessary and to my knowledge there are no data driven analysis that support the need for something like this. If blow by is such a huge problem a really easy fix is to ensure that your oil is not filled to maximum capacity or higher.
@@batglide5484 blow by is from bad rings. Oil from the crank case being pushed into the cylinder.
The M8 and TC can push too much oil through the breathers and it introduces more than just air into the cylinder. Most guys will never notice it but anyone that actually runs their bike hard will end up with excess carbon build up on the piston and valves. This ends up being a problem way down the road assuming normal conditions. HD allows problems to happen so they can sell the solution via screamin eagle.
Can you fix it cheaper? Yes but the part of that question thats more important than cost is the fix. $10 spent vs $400 is great until the motor locks up from oil starvation.
Most parts cost stupid amounts for 3 reasons: name, R&D, materials. Buy it or don't, no difference to me
@@kjknuth9127 the blow by pushes excess vapors and oil into the intake through the breather bolts. That's the exact purpose of the breather bolts. When people complain about blow by on their Harleys they are complaining about the oil exiting the air filter and hitting their bike or pants, or they are complaining about excess carbon buildup. Firstly, oil vapor in the air fuel mixture does not contribute meaningfully to carbon buildup. Engines vented to atmosphere still get the same amount of carbon buildup. Secondly, excess crank case pressure is already being vented out of the breather bolts. That is their purpose. Every motor company uses some form of breather bolt setup to relive excess crank case pressure, cars usually use PCV. To solve the issue of excess oil entering the intake and possibly not entering the combustion chamber as designed would be to integrate a catch can of some type between the breather bolt and the intake. If you can show me quantitative data that proves that the breather bolts are not venting enough crank case pressure and that this aftermarket product does, I'll eat my words. But I've looked it up and I can't find any evidence if either.
@@batglide5484 then don't buy the product it's basic economics. There's a reason that companies have went this route and a reason motors are blowing up from the factory. I don't know either and I suspect neither do you but I can about guarantee it's the same reason
@@kjknuth9127 uhm motors aren't blowing up from the factory. Even when they had sumping issues, that only affected a small minority of all M8s being produced at the time and that problem has been fixed for years now. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about, but if you want to spend hundreds of dollars on a modification that won't increase performance, reliability or even look cool then that's up to you little buddy. 🤡🤡🤡
Sounds like this is what my Dyna needs. Have way to much pressure causing oil blow back and mist while riding. I’ll be back with an update
Nice hardware, but at $280 that's a little steep.
This is, without a doubt, the best quality part on the market to simply relieve pressure from your Crankcase. We initially only ran these on our Performance Builds. We now run them on every bike we own, 5 M8's, and they have a noticeable impact on all of them, from Stock CVO Streetglide to a 135HP Stage IV Bagger with a 550 Cam.
You immediately notice a better sounding engine, mechanically. It helped us realize just how much pressure is being produced and the stress it must be causing. There are cheaper parts, but nothing is better, more well thought out, or close to this quality.
That's what gets me...people buy these 20K PLUS priced bikes and then proceed to bolt on the cheapest aftermarket parts they can find. I agree this is pricey, but how it is designed and reportedly performs, seems very worth it if you plan on keeping your ride for a long time. Seems like cheap insurance to me in the long run...certainly less than a single typical oil change service at the dealership!
@@zonktified1247 that is exactly how we feel. Harley deals with the EPA and builds the best machine within the confines of their bullshit. It is up to Dealers and owners to decide how those regulations impact our bikes.
You gotta be a dip stick to pay $300 for that!
What do you suggest
Stupidly over priced !!
materials, labor, testing, marketing and design is what drives the price. if you have a fusion 360 software, a mini mill and lathe. you could make your own. just sayin..
larry
Look at the A1 if you can’t afford this one right now.
Do I really need to show you other items that are designed, machined, tested and marketed in the same price point ??? Don’t be stupid !
Do these come with a lock? At this price we don't worry about our bikes getting stolen, Just the dipsticks.
I have a '22 low rider st and after my 1000 mile service my dipstick has been puking oil out of the filter - why would it do that ? I installed it when the bike was new and it hadn't leaked until after the first service. When I took it apart the pads that were in it were soaked with oil. And I'm wondering if the valve opens up too easily once they get two pads saturated with oil?
Great Idea to fix a built-in problem.........Hmmmmm What ? Sorry but I don't buy products that need fixes on day one.
How TF do you justify 300 for these? 7 dollars tops. Raping customers = no sales.
To expensive for me
There's a guy here somewhere, he just drilled a hole in stock cap and threaded a brake fitting in it..stuck a hose on it..3$
Look at the A1 if you can’t afford this.
I put one on my 2018 road glide. Big difference
if you don't apply too much exhaust backpressure you're engine won't blow oil. neither will over filling it. just hook a copper tube right at the head pipe from the head breathers. it will burn the oil and puke it out the exhaust. like Indian Larry preached add a gizmo and fix the dam thing! so who cares if its puffin smoke. that way everyone will know where you're at. even the Navajo during smoke signal exercises!
I paid the 301$ for the kit delivered from Dennis Kirk. Came with a scratched cap and has a chip where the connector screws in for the hose. Not sure how that can pass the QC ... Trying to get a replacement cap from either Feuling or DK right now. Frustrating that I have to deal with this and cannot install the part as I cannot break the shipping bags . Not sure what to think about all of this .. .
It’s called life. I hope you got it resolved.
Great Product. Could of drilled a hole in the original dipstick used a brake bleeder fitting. This fueling vented dipstick is super classy and custom. I Love it!
Have mine on for about three weeks, and love it. Best price is on Fuel moto.
One of the first things I did to my 2001 Fatboy when it was new, was install a Gear Drive and a fueling oil pump. I then put over 50,000 miles on it before I upgraded to the fueling cam plate and lifters.
“Wow! That price though”. My Crossbones stick pops out on start up( it’s not threaded). It was chance that I seen this vidga and thought “problem solved! “ But Not for $279.95. I’ll keep holding it.
If you can’t afford this nice one now, A1 has one that is less money but different design. I’m using it. But this fueling is sweet!
Its a sales pitch….they make this thing more complicated then it needs to be so you think you need it
I’m sure it’s a great thing but ridiculously overpriced. It’s for americans buying everything with a credit card.
It’s over priced! Those are sucker prices!
4:02 jokes aside, thee most satisfying sound putting that dipstick in. You can just hear the solid quality.
That dip stick suck! Consumer's are better off with the trask check m8 for the same price and its 100% better.
So, we are asked to buy a part to try to solve the manufacturer’s poor design, and lax tolerances?
I know right? Why no recall notice to have this installed?
@@thecommander2616 You must be a first time Harley owner. 😂
@@joshrandall5297 right? Hahahaha... since 1903 , same same.
Harley Davidson gave us a better and more powerful engine without solving the same oil pressure flow problem they’ve had for all their motors. Government EPA regulations is why they can’t fix it.
I’ll be adding Fueling’s dipstick with line filter to my Harley this year, BUT I still have one big question?
Should you run ventilating dipstick during a DYNO tune?
@@thecommander2616 EPA
I like Fueling products and went to order this…. $300? Holy…
I may just be using my CNC etc and trying to do it myself for like $29.
I don’t have access to a CNC but I’ve got my hobbyist lathes, mills and a shaper. With a bit of stainless and a few odds and ends, I’m pretty sure I could produce my own custom version.
First thing I did when I bought my street glide
Jesus wept! Must be trying to pay for a new CNC machine
Nice product, but why are they so expensive?
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If harley has so much problems with this motor why don't they fix the issue
Thats what we're here for
You right all the money we pay for the motorcycle they should do a recall and fix the problem
How is this legal from an emission requirements
Great quality product for my Lowrider FXLR but the design of the cap is very difficult to have a good grasp of the dipstick to unscrew, with a stock exhaust, it would have been great if you have considered this, not all harleys own a 2 into 1 exhaust.
Sorry but I am not going to fund your CVO with that price.
What's the price without filter with filter?
Do I need to do this on a 2022 Heritage?
No Harley started putting in a better oil pump in 2020 you should be fine it was 17. 18 19
@@garyposthuma9607 Much appreciation for the response,
right here now was the only place i’ve heard that, others weren’t sure. Thanks.
@@1862anthony that why there telling people with 17 18 19 to up grade there oil pumps to 2020 oil pump that when Harley put in a lot better oil pump so you have the better oil pump in your 22 ihave a 18 ultra limited want 1500 to 1800 put new pump in I think I keep driving it and hope I don't have problems with it have 30 thousand miles on it
@@garyposthuma9607 Nice, good to know your ride going good, good news. And thanks for info, one less headache I need, dealing with NY traffic is bad enough.
I’m noticing on your softail m8 dipstick you have a single o ring. i was sent one third party that has 2 o rings for my heritage classic and have been problems with the cap leaking all down my bike since i got it. did they sent me one for a touring m8 ? the oil level is good and line routing correct. do i just have the wrong model ?
give us a call and one of our techs can help you out (866)966-9767
Don't understand how mounting under the frame does not compromise the filter with rain water or mud without plugging up the filter. Does Feuling sell replacement filters now?
Use a catch can
i am grateful for the video.... you guys are clutch!
Get them back in stock.
What’s the name of the air cleaner on the blue bike ?
Its our new "BA" Air Cleaner... coming soon. Stay tuned!
Feuling Parts
Nice 👍
What these run fer?
$279.95
Ouch.... Yeah ill just mod the stock cap thanks though yal 👍
Just ordered one for my 114
High quality part. BUT, the Feuling instructions (including this video) are not appropriate for an M8 Softail. Routing the hose was a big challenge; took me 3+ hours to install. Calling tech help line was not too helpful. You will need at least 6 more locking zip ties than the 2 included in kit in order to route the hose and secure it so it won't wander or chafe or interfere operation of other parts, including the side stand.
I bought one of these for my 2020 softail and it works great....I rode about 50 miles and engine seemed to run better and I used just the filter on top of the cap and didn't have any seepage or misting.
You guys are funny. He crankcase already has a bleeder.
@@mahealanihawaii9830 yup. Bleeds everything back into your engine, and that is not good for your piston tops.
@@MadMexism also reduces octane rating making knock more prevalent on a hot engine, dirties up valves, and adds a coat of oil buildup on top of pistons which increases compression… making knock even more possible.
Anything for a twin cam softail
Unfortunately we do not offer any Twin Cam softail fitment for our Vented Dipsticks due to variance in seating positions and potential for rider leg contact. We would love to help you combat any excessive crankcase pressure issues you may be having, give us a call and we'll get you dialed in!
(866) 966-9767
On my 2005 Heritage classic, I just drilled a small hole straight into the top of the stock Oil Tank Cap/dip stick. After an engine rebuild, going (from 88 up to 104 CI), my cap literally blew off the tank while riding. So far this is working good, for a shade tree fixer. Is there a required amount of oil pressure that should be in the Oil Tank? Anyone?
That would or will be stolen so fast…I would highly recommend keeping with you at all times cause you will be screwed when you get back to your bike and find no oil dipstick…
I just bought a 2020 fatboy, and was having inconsistent oil readings on the dip stick. I finally started doing some research and found this video in which you mention the oil pump being on the right hand side and running the engine while on the jiffy will cause oil to be kicked into the crankcase. My question is how do I get that oil back? I know I'm not short oil but the dipstik says I am, so how do I get that oil back? I've tried and can seem to get it back, what I did was run my bike into normal operating temperature remove the crankcase sensor let out all the oil and the refill to correct level! There's something absolutely wrong with having to do this tho! I'm taking the bike into the shop! Any recommendations as to what to mention to the techs?
I think I know why, but I'd rather hear from someone like yourselves who are more knowledgeable. You obviously went through the trouble of utilizing a one-way flap valve in your design for a reason. why is that valve required because I've seen another similar cap that doesn't have one? thanks.
I have a 95ci twin cam. Will this eliminate the need for the head bolts? I was thinking of doing a catch can. can I just do this instead and replace the head breather bolts with solid. Object is no oil in the intake.
When and where can I buy it here in Germany?
I believe Parts Europe!
Over engineered only to be overly expensive DIPstick!! Not a good idea, sorry.
Attaching shit to the frame with cable ties causes corrosion, harley do it all the time I spend hours re routing cables and lines to prevent this
thx
Only late model Twin Cams . Companies are not supporting early model Twin Cams.
Nice
i went to your website, didnt see anything for an 09 heritage, do you have a part number for this to fit that bike?
Fuelling
With this it should keep oil of the air filter correct? I thinking of running it to a catch can though
Random question. What air cleaner is on that bike. It's nice a think with a tunnel ram and clear cover. Looks sweet
Mine is 2017 SG and need this, do you ship to UAE?
Do you guys recommend synthetic oil or conventional for Harley m8.
Is this an alternative to a external breather system or is best to do both..??
Just get the Harley updated oil pump , not a band-aid for a broke bone
So have you put a pressure guage on a standard dipstick an then yours? What differances is there?
How does this effect the warranty on the power train?
Which direction should the line filter be facing, rear tire or front tire?
Do you make anything for a 93 FLHS ?
What size is the allen wrench for set screw in side ?
i recently installed one on my 2017 M8 and I'm still getting a little oil in the air cleaner. I've read that other guys are removing half a quart of oil after installing the dip stick to help with the issue. Do you guys recommend doing that? * i mean removing half a quart of oil from what the factory recommends
I also have a 2017 M8 with significant blowby. Just went ahead and spent the $700 for an upgrade to the Feuling oil pump.
Does this fix the issue with the oil going into my intake
Will this fit my 1998 Electra Glide classic
wish this came for softails with push in dipsticks
Very nice but the crooks are going to be swiping them right off of our bikes. Feuling needs to make a locking model or an exploding one.
Nah, I had two. One on my softail, and one on my road glide. Been to all types of places. No problem. The whole bike would get stolen before the dipstick. That did cross my mind at one point though. So I feel you.
Will that drop oil in front of my rear tire
By routing the breather hose up under the seat before going back down under the frame you are only venting vapor with very minimal oil content. You are riding across more oil residue when you ride 10 ft on the pavement.
Will this void the warranty?
what about the negative pressure issue?
Are you kidding me $279
Will the fueling dip stick erase the need for a external breathers,stop the blow by from the vents on the heads
I've been told this helps enough that you don't need an external breather. But I've seen people do both. I went with just this!
Well if this is a problem shouldn’t H-D do a recall and install them on all there M8s???
Technically not a problem, but if you put on a lot of miles this can help your motor.
300$ I did this for 12$.
What did you do? I have a 2013 Streetglide. For the crank breathers i just ran hoses into a small bottle in the air cleaner. They had expensive options but that seemed silly.
@@nobodysreview6137 it's a nipple,hose and filter shown in the kit here. Only you can buy that stuff at auto zone for like 10$ . Tip put the filter up high and you dont need the valve. But if you think you do you can buy that for next to nothing. I dont believe in letting someone extort me for Harley parts. I could show you a really cool oil cooler for 60$ too ,fan assist. Also auto parts. They want 500$ for. Back in the day we built all our own shit.you didn't get a (kit) for anything.
Will this cut down on oil accumulation in the throttle body?
Yes. Definitely will. That in turn keeps your piston tops clean.
What about vented dipsticks for the push in style sticks?
we are working on it!
$247 jesus fuck
I order one of these for my M8 but unfortunately I received mine missing the quick disconnect fitting 😔 so I cant install mine until I get that part.
Do you cap off the vents at the air cleaner after you install this?
great question!! id like to know a well....
@@GUENILLA I left mine as is it's not gonna hurt it. As long as it is vented at crankcase, for sure check with your mechanic.
I already have the polished cap and complete dipstick. Is there anyway I can buy just the black cap ? Blacked out the bike and the polished doesn’t match.
Give us a call at the shop and Im sure we will be able to hook you up! (866)966-9767
So does this void the HD factory warranty? I mean, I would like to buy it but not if it's going to void my warranty.
not really! I mean it is very easy to take out and put your stock Harley one back in if needed...
@@FeulingParts( not really ) lol wtf
oh man.. you left us 06 TC out in the cold.
larry
Ditch the dipstick
Buy a Honda.... Better bike
Buy Japanese not Chinese..
Harley made in China.. Look it up
By the time you plug the hole back up with all that restriction... The vent isn't worth a damn.
Or , and I know Youl be blown away by this, buy a decent bike instead. Blowby and venting issues solved in an instant. 🖕🏻
LOL