Thank you Sir for saying that it's a BANDAID fix, I respect that. I have a small Dyna performance shop and use FUELING components on occasion, first class. Nice to hear that someone as PROFESSIONAL as myself, isn't afraid to say how H-D really dropped the ball on the M8. I build, race, ride, eat, and sleep the Twin Cam, and have ZERO interest in the M8. You folks are first class in my book, thank you. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Why spend that when you can just buy the correct fix which is a 2019 stock m8 oil pump backing plate with oring I have installed them on bikes with sumping issues and fixes the issue. Harley knows this and has put this kit on every 2019 and up m8 and they recommend it when ever upping the cc or a cam
In our testing we see inconsistent results with the oring on the back of the oil pump. The crankcase is marginal at best for the 107ci engines. Now with customers adding on a larger displacement big bore kits you will naturally see more leak down through the pistons and cylinders. The dipstick allows the pressure to be vented. This is more or less a band-aid for a poorly designed engine.
Wrench Tech My17 RG was fine at stage 1, uses a little more oil than any of my twin cams. I do the RS 468, HD upgraded oil pump and some S&S goodies, this bike runs great! If I am really giving it the beans and getting up in the rpm’s it will seep oil out around the dip stick. OK I guess it’s getting the vented dip stick, and some day a top end to fix all the blow by?
@Joseph Marton It's not a stipulation, it's a tech tip. You can use synthetic and it will not affect the operation of the vent. TECH TIP: Feuling highly recommends staying off the rev limiter and running conventional oil in the M8 engines to help maintain ring seal and minimize blow by. Besides that, there are other professionals that recommend only running JASO certified synthetic oil in your M8. Have you ever watched Kevin Baxter videos?
I notice FuelingParts doesnt respond/ answer any technical questions in these comments box but they do seem to respond to "How can I buy it?" However your question is similar to mine..on the M8, if you vent this lower, is it also the exact pressure being would also be pushed into the air intake (if you didnt vent the lower).. If its the same, then the answer to your question is yes, drop both lines into one catch can.. But if the answer is the same pressure, the maybe you won't need both venting mods.
Does the kit have the 90 degree fitting like in the video thumbnail and other advertisements so the line can be ran perpendicular to the cap instead of inline ?
Question , what would be an indication I have an oil problem and need this dipstick vent, the reason I am asking is, because it was a 114 in the beginning I upgraded to a 117 stage 4 set up,
No because this doesnt replace a part you can't just go and slap back on. If you need to take the bike in for service, you just grab your old dipstick and put it back in. This isn't like replacing an exhaust or something in the power train. It's just a dipstick.
@Joseph Marton And you let them get away with that? Really? What if the road is stickier than normal, would that void warranty as well? What if you had head wind instead of tail wind? Better not ride the bike then, cause it may cause the valve spring to break. I'd fight them tooth and nail if they tried that BS with me. The M8 engine is a great engine, but it's also a relatively new engine, and some teething problems are to be expected. Crankcase sumping has been resolved with the 2020 oil pump. Transmission oil dumping into the primary has been resolved with a venting hole. Clutch slave cylinder malfunction has been resolved with a new model in 2018. On the whole though, the engine performs remarkably well. I ran my Stage I M8 for almost 35,000 miles without any issue. Unfortunately, my bike got stolen a few months back. I've ordered a new one which will be delivered early next year, and I've decided to go big on this one. Literally. A Stage III 128" from Fuel Moto Wood 22X-E cam and Alpha lifters Dynojet PV2 and Target Tune Feuling cam plate, RS oil pump, vented dipstick and valve springs S&S tappet cuffs, head bolts, rockers and rocker studs Dark Horse compensator Barnett clutch Ward ported manifold SE A/C and throttle body ThunderMax oil cooler fan and Jackpot pipes. That means pretty much the entire drivetrain is getting a makeover. Expecting 130~140 hp and 140~150 ft lbs, with the reliability I need for the miles I ride.
What is the warranty on these. I purchased one in Sept 2020. I just did a service on my bike (harley heritage 114 2020) as I was attempting to unscrew the head to this product the dipstick snapped in half where I a wrench in the wrench flat. I had to put my stock dipstick back in.
Follow up to anyone reading this thread. Fueling customer service was excellent regarding this issue I had. They sent me out a new unit in a timely manner. I was advised by both Fueling and Fuel Moto that they have never had an issue like this before. It is a quality product.
Bought one of these for my 2021 Heritage Softail. Spewed half a quart of oil before the first tank of gas. Waste of nearly $300.00 and no one will reply to my complaints. Avoid this scam.
Thank you Sir for saying that it's a BANDAID fix, I respect that. I have a small Dyna performance shop and use FUELING components on occasion, first class. Nice to hear that someone as PROFESSIONAL as myself, isn't afraid to say how H-D really dropped the ball on the M8. I build, race, ride, eat, and sleep the Twin Cam, and have ZERO interest in the M8. You folks are first class in my book, thank you. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
This guy looks like George Clooney. Feuling makes great products.
Why spend that when you can just buy the correct fix which is a 2019 stock m8 oil pump backing plate with oring I have installed them on bikes with sumping issues and fixes the issue. Harley knows this and has put this kit on every 2019 and up m8 and they recommend it when ever upping the cc or a cam
In our testing we see inconsistent results with the oring on the back of the oil pump. The crankcase is marginal at best for the 107ci engines. Now with customers adding on a larger displacement big bore kits you will naturally see more leak down through the pistons and cylinders. The dipstick allows the pressure to be vented. This is more or less a band-aid for a poorly designed engine.
@Roadking65 get the Greg Williams pushrod for less than $100. It totally fixes the transfer issues.
@@jimkoch1040 this is not for the oil transfer problem,,oil transfer is transmission oil migrating to primary
Wrench Tech My17 RG was fine at stage 1, uses a little more oil than any of my twin cams. I do the RS 468, HD upgraded oil pump and some S&S goodies, this bike runs great! If I am really giving it the beans and getting up in the rpm’s it will seep oil out around the dip stick. OK I guess it’s getting the vented dip stick, and some day a top end to fix all the blow by?
Poorly designed engine I don’t believe that and you’re probably making a killing selling parts for it
So this should help minimise oil blow by out of air filter?
@Joseph Marton It's not a stipulation, it's a tech tip. You can use synthetic and it will not affect the operation of the vent.
TECH TIP: Feuling highly recommends staying off the rev limiter and running conventional oil in the M8 engines to help maintain ring seal and minimize blow by.
Besides that, there are other professionals that recommend only running JASO certified synthetic oil in your M8. Have you ever watched Kevin Baxter videos?
@Joseph Marton ua-cam.com/video/fkk90droAbQ/v-deo.html&lc=z22qxb2jnyr0ej3m3acdp43bbeds2onny35jpepvbf1w03c010c
@@DONALD-MAGA RIght and he uses Amsoil as do I.
@Joseph Marton you probably have bad umbrella sponge
What is the difference between this set up vs external intake air cleaner breather?
Wonder if it work to have a catch can and route both this vent and the head breathers into said catch can...
I notice FuelingParts doesnt respond/ answer any technical questions in these comments box but they do seem to respond to "How can I buy it?" However your question is similar to mine..on the M8, if you vent this lower, is it also the exact pressure being would also be pushed into the air intake (if you didnt vent the lower).. If its the same, then the answer to your question is yes, drop both lines into one catch can.. But if the answer is the same pressure, the maybe you won't need both venting mods.
If I decide to use just the gold nipple, will moisture enter the crankcase when its rainy, or just really humid?
Does the kit have the 90 degree fitting like in the video thumbnail and other advertisements so the line can be ran perpendicular to the cap instead of inline ?
Question , what would be an indication I have an oil problem and need this dipstick vent, the reason I am asking is, because it was a 114 in the beginning I upgraded to a 117 stage 4 set up,
Does the filter drip on the floor at all?
How do I order one of these is there a number I can call to order one
you can on our website www.feulingparts.com or call (866)966-9767
Will this void HD infamous warranty?
Hassan Jenkins sneezing on the bike will cause the warranty to void
No because this doesnt replace a part you can't just go and slap back on. If you need to take the bike in for service, you just grab your old dipstick and put it back in.
This isn't like replacing an exhaust or something in the power train. It's just a dipstick.
@Joseph Marton And you let them get away with that? Really? What if the road is stickier than normal, would that void warranty as well? What if you had head wind instead of tail wind? Better not ride the bike then, cause it may cause the valve spring to break.
I'd fight them tooth and nail if they tried that BS with me.
The M8 engine is a great engine, but it's also a relatively new engine, and some teething problems are to be expected. Crankcase sumping has been resolved with the 2020 oil pump. Transmission oil dumping into the primary has been resolved with a venting hole. Clutch slave cylinder malfunction has been resolved with a new model in 2018. On the whole though, the engine performs remarkably well.
I ran my Stage I M8 for almost 35,000 miles without any issue. Unfortunately, my bike got stolen a few months back. I've ordered a new one which will be delivered early next year, and I've decided to go big on this one. Literally.
A Stage III 128" from Fuel Moto
Wood 22X-E cam and Alpha lifters
Dynojet PV2 and Target Tune
Feuling cam plate, RS oil pump, vented dipstick and valve springs
S&S tappet cuffs, head bolts, rockers and rocker studs
Dark Horse compensator
Barnett clutch
Ward ported manifold
SE A/C and throttle body
ThunderMax oil cooler fan
and Jackpot pipes.
That means pretty much the entire drivetrain is getting a makeover.
Expecting 130~140 hp and 140~150 ft lbs, with the reliability I need for the miles I ride.
What is the warranty on these. I purchased one in Sept 2020. I just did a service on my bike (harley heritage 114 2020) as I was attempting to unscrew the head to this product the dipstick snapped in half where I a wrench in the wrench flat. I had to put my stock dipstick back in.
Give us a call (866)966-9767
Follow up to anyone reading this thread. Fueling customer service was excellent regarding this issue I had. They sent me out a new unit in a timely manner. I was advised by both Fueling and Fuel Moto that they have never had an issue like this before. It is a quality product.
@@BaronvonOldenbiker Yes
Bought one of these for my 2021 Heritage Softail. Spewed half a quart of oil before the first tank of gas. Waste of nearly $300.00 and no one will reply to my complaints. Avoid this scam.
Nothing for a 06 twin cam?
Would this modification typically show an increase in torque or HP on M8 stage IV motor?
1.36%
My bike doesnt have a diptick?
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It's on the seat
I cant find a diptick on my bike
Good thing too, its bite is vicious.
It's only on it when your riding it
Waste of money.
Why is it a waste if money? Does it leak oil ?