The hell are you doing posting this documentary as an ad? XD If I'd want to watch it, I'd click a trailer, you're only pissing off all the non-premium YT users who want to cut their favourite creators some slack and don't skip their ads.
Eureka! J'ai réussi à obtenir les sous-titres en Français en activant "CC" en haut à droite sur la vidéo. Suite à ça il ne vous reste plus qu'à choisir une langue 😛🤩😉🇨🇵
Wonderful documentary showing the "power" of cooperation. I've had the pleasure of meeting Dirk Vansintjan and visiting the mill in Rostselaar. He's such a great guy. I also love how the advertising agencies helped the co-op in Germany raise money to buy the power plant.
Super Film! Ich bin so motiviert weiterzumachen, die Energiewende zu rocken. "Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise lösen, durch die sie entstanden sind." (Albert Einstein)
Klasse!!! So gelingt die EnergieWende. Mit vielen einzelnen Menschen, die sich zusammentun und bei sich selbst beginnen, konkretes zu erschaffen. Gegen alle Widerstände hin zum Erfolg. Nur so kommen wir zu 100% unendlich verfügbarer Energie in unserem System.
This is amazing to see the de centralisation of energy and into the hands of the community. I need to look into this more, the energy system in the uk at the moment as well as other parts of the world I’m sure is completely screwed…..we need to de centralise energy and food production as a high priority, these things are both a huge problem when it comes to logistics of a leviathan system breaking down. Bring it back to the people!
Nationalize!...Not to be rude...but energy was made into a public-(province-owned) corporation here in Quebec way back in the 50's and it's been providing amazing blue and white collar jobs as well as plenty of money for our schools and we still have some of the cheapest power in the world...
I completely agree ! We need a mix of centralized state-owned and decentralised citizen owned power production. We cannot power the transportation and industries without centralised solutions. And if ut is state owned and well managed, it will not be in competition with community energy, it will cooperate with it.
Questions not asked or answered but left to the viewer to assume 100% of the electricity is from solar, wind, or hydro. What percent of their total electrical needs are being supplied by the coop's renewables? Where does the remainder of their electricity come from? Who built the wind generators? Are the Siemens or imported? Where do the solar panels come from? Where will they go when their useful life span is over? Germany counts "biofuels" as renewable. That means they cut down forests to turn trees into wood pellets to burn. They consider this carbon neutral. According to the book "Bright Green Lies" some of the trees are being harvested in the United States. Ask questions, dig deep, follow the money. There is no free lunch when it comes to energy, specifically electricity. Know the difference: Electricity, energy, power all have different meanings but are used interchangeably.
Good points. I would think that more democratic communities that own their energy systems would be more transparent than other kinds of communities. More transparency, more communication, more recognition of the problems and thus more motivation to fix them. They mentioned it in the doc: once the playing field is more fair, that grids are given open season to carry electrons from whatever source to whatever sink, then alternative technologies have the potential to perform and earn their stay. Not so much when renewables are either outlawed, in the case of utilities blocking bidirectional power flow at the meter, or more expensive than the original state of affairs. However, the problems you describe are global. Every grid operator is tasked today with trying to figure out how to better deal with more and more intermittent renewables on the grid because they are coming regardless. Storage + renewables seems to be the best combination for maximizing for a renewable mix without compromising some of the more base load users. Also, these companies installing solar PV and wind turbines are global at worst, regional at best. It's a whole economic puzzle to sort through how local communities would be able to pay for the low energy dense power sources shown on the doc. I admit that having a "leftover community fund" kinda falls on deaf ears when compared to the costs of maintaining and replacing solar at least (I'm sure the same the same is true for wind and geothermal, gen 4 biomass (algae), etc.). You are spot on with the gen 1/2 biomass thing in the EU. It's quite a conundrum. What I don't get also is why they didn't mention some of the other forms of distributed, renewable energy. There are communities in the US for example that have set up large vertical geothermal heat systems to supply residential heating and cooling. Then again this doc was focused primarily on electricity, so the other energy use pathways wouldn't have been mentioned. Utilities in at least the US own both electricity and heating networks, and so similar cooperatives could be set up. You've asked all the right questions, even the ones about device decommission and material recycling. I wish you were the leader going after energy cooperatives in my area!
As a South African currently living in a rural part of the country. This would be a huge W. Our huge energy supplier in the country is useless and implements electricity shut downs because of their inefficiency and corruption. This is a game-changer.
small town, few people, no energy intensive industry at all and a lot of space; perfect to install photovoltaic panels and create an energy community. Let's try to do the same thing in Lombardy (Italy) with only 10 million inhabitants in about 24k km^2 of territory plus a lot of industries.
I usually find these films inspiring and informative, but felt the representation of nuclear energy in this film was misguided, ignorant, and counterproductive to the end goal of fighting climate change and creating climate justice. I understand the point of the film was to highlight decentralized energy co ops, but watching a company that carries so much influence in environmentally-concerned circles use Chernobyl footage as a scare tactic to get a point across is disheartening, especially when the majority of evidenced-based literature points to the use of nuclear power as a key in decarbonizing the power grid. @Patagonia, I'd love to see some content that portrays more of the nuances of nuclear power and is clearer about vilifying the political powers that created dangerous situations like Chernobyl instead of vilifying a perfectly useful and necessary source of energy that we need to achieve energy justice, especially if you are to talk about global energy justice outside the relatively malleable political systems of Western Europe.
I'm confused. Who is producing the value with which the work required to be done is renemurated? How is the capital equipment replaced when it ages if it produces less value than it consumes. Who is paying valuable money into the scheme initially on the hope of the later return? What happens in terms of brand if one or two if these projects fail? Who insures production or food if the supply fails and the central grid does not keep the fridge or the factories wheels turning?
i guess this will somehow help patagonia sell more goretex jackets, which i love to buy and they so happily keep pumping out every year, a couple of things 1. my understanding is nuclear industry is highly regulated just about everywhere these days, just look at the amount of time it takes to build a plant 2. can this cute video kindly show how these solar panels and windmills are made, where they are manufactured, how materials for them are mined, how are they installed, what is their life span, how much upfront cost
Helping you start out, please read in full my comment in response to David Lazar. Then do your own research, with honesty, integrity and objectivity. Surprise yourself with the quality of your own researches.
@@alextchhailo8762 "Planet of the Humans" is a disgrace for Michael Moore as a documentary producer as it does not contain recent footage and is totally misrepresenting a whole bunch of things. It's a disgrace for any serious documentary film maker.
Yes, and those big companies include the absurdly expensive nuclear generation industry, beloved by our military guardians, and which after 70 years, has failed to control its perpetually soaring costs. Plenty of posters on this thread appear to be engineers deaf to this film's inspiring message on how cheaper, more reliable technologies of decentralised low-carbon generation liberate consumers. Only the more intelligent engineers begin to appreciate the necessary, inevitable social & economic context of their work. None of that type seem to be commenting here.
Without nuclear it's almost impossible to transition from burning stuff. Even producing solar panels requires a lot of energy - currently because they're mostly made in China - this energy comes from coal.
But it doesn't have to, and the Chinese are moving out of coal. Re your "a lot of energy": A study in 2004 by the US Academy of Sciences found that solar PV panels re-paid their 'carbon debt of manufacture' on average as early as four years into the panels' operating life; operating life at that time was guaranteed for 20 years - i.e. you've always got at least 16 years of entirely carbon-free electricity production. That was nearly two decades ago. Since then, manufacturing efficiencies of PV panels have leapt forward, driving the staggering price drops of PV panels in wholesale prices which the IEA says have achieved 18 per cent EACH YEAR for the PAST DECADE. Your favoured nuclear electricity, in stark contrast to clean solar and wind, just keeps getting more and more expensive every year; e.g. here in the UK, the £192 per MWh which EDF wants to panhandle from consumers and our grandchildren until the 2050s. Absurd, mendacious parasitism by your favoured industry. Of a piece with nuclear's lie of 'energy too cheap to meter' , first paraded by the Rand Corporation before the US Congress in the early 1950s. Facts and costs are against you. Before you spread your misinformation devoid of current costs & numbers, why don't you improve the quality & good faith of your contribution to public debate, by injecting some honesty and rigour into your evident practical ignorance? Or is scaring the public with articles of outdated faith & vacuous assertion, bereft of fact and current intelligence, now the only tactic which the deceitful nuclear industry can bring to public debate?
@@TVdocsClimateScience Not sure what you meant by 192£ /MWh it certainly doesn't present the typical cost of electricity produced by even's todays nuclear power plants. For instance in Finland the production cost (including capital cost) is 55,4€ /MWh on nuclear. Windmills are on 42€ without taking in account energy storage and backup powerplants, and at 56€ with. The capital cost is major cost factor for modern nuclear and the next generation reactors seem to on the path to bring that down remarkably.
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Clearly they do not know how the grid works. Three phase 50hz system. Supply and demand have to be synchronised at all times, just the inertia of generators and turbines dampens spikes in demand. Okay, you can try and run so called island systems, which are totally independent from the grid. And do not forget to install some energy storage for long winter nights. Anyway, the earth is warming up, we should act fast and efficient, and I mean it. In this moment we should be already converting existing coal fired power plants to 4th gen nuclear - preferably molten salt.
If you think we don't know how the grid works when my coop supplies 1,6% of households in Flanders with green electricity, I think you are ignorant about what we do in reality.
@@Primoz.r your latest comment exactly proves @Dirk Vansintjan 's point. Please educate yourself, there is a REScoop.eu member in Slovenia too: www.zses.si/
What I hear here is pretty much the same I hear from Friends of the Earth Europe. However, they don't seem to be referenced at all during the document. Suspicious.
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The film is made together with REScoop.eu, the main partner of FOEE regarding community energy. So you here the same information through different channels, wich is great. No need to be suspicious I think.
Referring to Girona, were some of the Som Energia sections filmed in your fine city in Catalonia? From a superlative EU energy conference on the outskirts of Girona in 2017 or 2018, I seemed to recognise Girona's riverside houses and the pedestrian bridge over which Nuri rode her bicycle. Beautiful city!
nuclear power is actually by far the safest energy source, the most efficient and also has 0 carbon emissions. I don’t understand why it’s being villanized in this film.
I would guess that they are anti nuclear since its a centralised power source. But yeah, its one of the safest energy sources we have, kinda wierd that they feel like its unsafe because of 1 incident, meanwhile people die from wind and solar every year.
Actually nuclear power is not safe at all, you just need to search which nuclear power plant have an accident insurance ?! None of them ... because there is no insurance company who can cover the cost of an accident.
Abandoning Nuclear power was Germany's biggest mistake since invading Russia. We can have clean energy communities while maintaining our fleets of carbon neutral nuclear plants. Chernobyl and Fukushima were certainly disasters but Europe is not 1986 Soviet Russia - or prone to earthquakes.
Everyone puts solar energy in their roof and the big electricity companies goes out of business. So they are not going to let it happen not easily at least.
agreed but you are talking to a brick wall. The makers of this film have absolutely zero technical knowledge in atmospheric science or the energy industry - they specialize in outsourcing high end clothing to mark up 1000% to dumbfucks who think theyre "helping the environment". This video is an dramatic advertisement for a false lifestyle and nothing more.
Read the evidence-driven reply I give above to your fellow pro-nuke delusionist Primoz Resman above. Then reply with your own evidence; not with the evidence-free simplistic assertion which you blurt here for public consumption.
in our shrinking world all enterprises need to be morally, ethically and legally correct, however if 1/10 of 1% are making the laws and corrupting the lawmakers then what kind of world are we leaving for our children?
@@carolalpert8296 well, is the plan that community will own everything they need? Home appliance factory, circuit factory, drug factory, farms, hospitals, grocery stores, all the research organizations needed to develop the technology and so on? If not what makes energy so special that community needs to own the powerplant/windmill/.. and supporting infrastructure and maintain it? Where are the proofs that this would make any sense economically or environmentally?
@@juspetful J Lund The problems this movie portrays is that communities are empowered when their individual resources stay within their communities rather than outsourced. Whole undeveloped countries living in poverty, while Uranium, gold, gems and oil are outsourced is proof that economically and environmentally, the present system is utterly untenable. Do not underestimate your community . Networks between them and others can create webs of suppliers to satisfy all needs And most important is the Individual power and abuliries gained by building and maintaining it. maintaining communty to dignity and ability
@@carolalpert8296 Sure I can see the value of a proud and empowered community but trying to be energy self-sufficient to reach that sounds pretty far fetched and not the easiest path. I can certainly see also the that there is a place for locally produced energy (solar panel type) in undeveloped countries in remote locations for small scale needs. However this film promoted the approach specifically for developed countries as far as I understood. Networks between communities creating web of suppliers... This sounds like a standard capitalism.
If that's not the true meaning of "woke" then I obviously dont know the meaning. You want to wake one of your friends up to understand why we need clean energy then you must not be talking to a human!
Well, it's actually said in this video: "This is not an energy issue." So you are trying to fight capitalism and you want to implement communism into our society. It's funny that the countries represented by individuals in this video have no experience with communist regimes, so they promote community-owned everything - "leveling the playing field". Trust me if you level the playing field, be careful not to level it too much, it's not fun. Also, nuclear power is portrayed as some sort of devil in this video although it is actually really clean, safe, and reliable.
Hi Everyone! You can turn subtitles or closed captions on by clicking 'CC' on the bottom right hand corner of the player. Enjoy the film!
The hell are you doing posting this documentary as an ad? XD If I'd want to watch it, I'd click a trailer, you're only pissing off all the non-premium YT users who want to cut their favourite creators some slack and don't skip their ads.
Hi, would be possible to add czech subtitules if I prepare them?
HI PATAGONIA, WHY ARE YOU SO GREEDY THAT YOU HAVE YOUR CLOTHING MADE OVERSEAS?
Than you for telling me to turn on 'CC' I feel like I can speak new languages with you guys!
Eureka! J'ai réussi à obtenir les sous-titres en Français en activant "CC" en haut à droite sur la vidéo. Suite à ça il ne vous reste plus qu'à choisir une langue 😛🤩😉🇨🇵
"Money is abundant, good ideas are scarce"
So grateful 🙏🏼♥️. Haw’aa. Miigwetch. Gracias. Merci. 🇨🇦
Really enjoyed this. Thank you Patagonia for your involvement. Man what leaders these people are and for the common good not for themselves.
Wonderful documentary showing the "power" of cooperation. I've had the pleasure of meeting Dirk Vansintjan and visiting the mill in Rostselaar. He's such a great guy. I also love how the advertising agencies helped the co-op in Germany raise money to buy the power plant.
Super Film! Ich bin so motiviert weiterzumachen, die Energiewende zu rocken. "Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise lösen, durch die sie entstanden sind." (Albert Einstein)
Klasse!!! So gelingt die EnergieWende. Mit vielen einzelnen Menschen, die sich zusammentun und bei sich selbst beginnen, konkretes zu erschaffen. Gegen alle Widerstände hin zum Erfolg. Nur so kommen wir zu 100% unendlich verfügbarer Energie in unserem System.
A truly great this concept that makes perfect sense anywhere, but especially in the EU.
Hi from Uruguay we want to say Congratulations on your achievements. we are very proud of you!! looking forward to see you again
This is amazing to see the de centralisation of energy and into the hands of the community. I need to look into this more, the energy system in the uk at the moment as well as other parts of the world I’m sure is completely screwed…..we need to de centralise energy and food production as a high priority, these things are both a huge problem when it comes to logistics of a leviathan system breaking down. Bring it back to the people!
Beautiful and hopeful story. Thanks from Korea!
Wonderfully produced and wildly inspiring. Thank you for sharing this.
einfach gut, klar, "der Weg",. Klasse und das beste EE sind copy right frei.
The time of action has come, Som Energia, here we go!
Fantastic achievements and a great film. India needs such 'energy' cooperatives, opportunities are huge!
Great film with a strong message - Amazing to learn about new tools that will help us avert the climate crisis and bring people out of energy poverty!
Beautiful and wonderfully inspiring. Thank you
Amazing achievements here that I had no idea about. Thank you for this!
This is wonderful and inspiring - I have been hearing whispers of this for years, but didn’t realize how far it has come.
excellent work all round. what a bunch of champs!
I'm love it. People of the power, you know
Outstanding!!!!!!!
#givethegridarest #distributedgeneration
Inspirational! And motivational.
That's fantastic! Great film and achievements very inspiring for my Brazil.
Nationalize!...Not to be rude...but energy was made into a public-(province-owned) corporation here in Quebec way back in the 50's and it's been providing amazing blue and white collar jobs as well as plenty of money for our schools and we still have some of the cheapest power in the world...
I completely agree ! We need a mix of centralized state-owned and decentralised citizen owned power production. We cannot power the transportation and industries without centralised solutions. And if ut is state owned and well managed, it will not be in competition with community energy, it will cooperate with it.
Sensacional!!! Parabens!!! Tamo junto!!!
Questions not asked or answered but left to the viewer to assume 100% of the electricity is from solar, wind, or hydro. What percent of their total electrical needs are being supplied by the coop's renewables? Where does the remainder of their electricity come from? Who built the wind generators? Are the Siemens or imported? Where do the solar panels come from? Where will they go when their useful life span is over? Germany counts "biofuels" as renewable. That means they cut down forests to turn trees into wood pellets to burn. They consider this carbon neutral. According to the book "Bright Green Lies" some of the trees are being harvested in the United States. Ask questions, dig deep, follow the money. There is no free lunch when it comes to energy, specifically electricity. Know the difference: Electricity, energy, power all have different meanings but are used interchangeably.
Good points. I would think that more democratic communities that own their energy systems would be more transparent than other kinds of communities. More transparency, more communication, more recognition of the problems and thus more motivation to fix them.
They mentioned it in the doc: once the playing field is more fair, that grids are given open season to carry electrons from whatever source to whatever sink, then alternative technologies have the potential to perform and earn their stay. Not so much when renewables are either outlawed, in the case of utilities blocking bidirectional power flow at the meter, or more expensive than the original state of affairs.
However, the problems you describe are global.
Every grid operator is tasked today with trying to figure out how to better deal with more and more intermittent renewables on the grid because they are coming regardless. Storage + renewables seems to be the best combination for maximizing for a renewable mix without compromising some of the more base load users.
Also, these companies installing solar PV and wind turbines are global at worst, regional at best. It's a whole economic puzzle to sort through how local communities would be able to pay for the low energy dense power sources shown on the doc. I admit that having a "leftover community fund" kinda falls on deaf ears when compared to the costs of maintaining and replacing solar at least (I'm sure the same the same is true for wind and geothermal, gen 4 biomass (algae), etc.).
You are spot on with the gen 1/2 biomass thing in the EU. It's quite a conundrum.
What I don't get also is why they didn't mention some of the other forms of distributed, renewable energy. There are communities in the US for example that have set up large vertical geothermal heat systems to supply residential heating and cooling. Then again this doc was focused primarily on electricity, so the other energy use pathways wouldn't have been mentioned. Utilities in at least the US own both electricity and heating networks, and so similar cooperatives could be set up.
You've asked all the right questions, even the ones about device decommission and material recycling. I wish you were the leader going after energy cooperatives in my area!
South Africa - are you ready, and you listening ?
As a South African currently living in a rural part of the country. This would be a huge W. Our huge energy supplier in the country is useless and implements electricity shut downs because of their inefficiency and corruption. This is a game-changer.
Love this - really enjoyed it. We are on a similar mission doing this on one London street - and Agamemnon from the film has been advising us!
No mans land was pretty good...good work good sir
Superb make feel like we human race can build some wonderfull
NOTE: TURN ON CLOSED CAPTIONING. Else, you will be listening to motivational german without knowing what is happening ;)
Thanks!
Tyah aber ich mag Motivationsduetsch
totally humbled!! Totally ...
we believe in
small town, few people, no energy intensive industry at all and a lot of space; perfect to install photovoltaic panels and create an energy community. Let's try to do the same thing in Lombardy (Italy) with only 10 million inhabitants in about 24k km^2 of territory plus a lot of industries.
I usually find these films inspiring and informative, but felt the representation of nuclear energy in this film was misguided, ignorant, and counterproductive to the end goal of fighting climate change and creating climate justice. I understand the point of the film was to highlight decentralized energy co ops, but watching a company that carries so much influence in environmentally-concerned circles use Chernobyl footage as a scare tactic to get a point across is disheartening, especially when the majority of evidenced-based literature points to the use of nuclear power as a key in decarbonizing the power grid. @Patagonia, I'd love to see some content that portrays more of the nuances of nuclear power and is clearer about vilifying the political powers that created dangerous situations like Chernobyl instead of vilifying a perfectly useful and necessary source of energy that we need to achieve energy justice, especially if you are to talk about global energy justice outside the relatively malleable political systems of Western Europe.
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Spot on. I have had higher hopes for Patagonia.
Formidabel !!
Lovin the rock music
I'm confused. Who is producing the value with which the work required to be done is renemurated? How is the capital equipment replaced when it ages if it produces less value than it consumes. Who is paying valuable money into the scheme initially on the hope of the later return? What happens in terms of brand if one or two if these projects fail? Who insures production or food if the supply fails and the central grid does not keep the fridge or the factories wheels turning?
i guess this will somehow help patagonia sell more goretex jackets, which i love to buy and they so happily keep pumping out every year, a couple of things
1. my understanding is nuclear industry is highly regulated just about everywhere these days, just look at the amount of time it takes to build a plant
2. can this cute video kindly show how these solar panels and windmills are made, where they are manufactured, how materials for them are mined, how are they installed, what is their life span, how much upfront cost
Helping you start out, please read in full my comment in response to David Lazar. Then do your own research, with honesty, integrity and objectivity. Surprise yourself with the quality of your own researches.
@@TVdocsClimateScience ua-cam.com/video/Zk11vI-7czE/v-deo.html
i'm also helping you start out, plant of the humans!
@@alextchhailo8762 "Planet of the Humans" is a disgrace for Michael Moore as a documentary producer as it does not contain recent footage and is totally misrepresenting a whole bunch of things. It's a disgrace for any serious documentary film maker.
epic
are subtitles in Italian available? Thanks
Yes, they will be available when the film launches today.
Teslas dream!!! As in Nikola Tesla!!!
Are subtitels in French available?
14 people like to pay big companies for their electricity
Yes, and those big companies include the absurdly expensive nuclear generation industry, beloved by our military guardians, and which after 70 years, has failed to control its perpetually soaring costs. Plenty of posters on this thread appear to be engineers deaf to this film's inspiring message on how cheaper, more reliable technologies of decentralised low-carbon generation liberate consumers. Only the more intelligent engineers begin to appreciate the necessary, inevitable social & economic context of their work. None of that type seem to be commenting here.
Without nuclear it's almost impossible to transition from burning stuff. Even producing solar panels requires a lot of energy - currently because they're mostly made in China - this energy comes from coal.
But it doesn't have to, and the Chinese are moving out of coal. Re your "a lot of energy": A study in 2004 by the US Academy of Sciences found that solar PV panels re-paid their 'carbon debt of manufacture' on average as early as four years into the panels' operating life; operating life at that time was guaranteed for 20 years - i.e. you've always got at least 16 years of entirely carbon-free electricity production. That was nearly two decades ago. Since then, manufacturing efficiencies of PV panels have leapt forward, driving the staggering price drops of PV panels in wholesale prices which the IEA says have achieved 18 per cent EACH YEAR for the PAST DECADE. Your favoured nuclear electricity, in stark contrast to clean solar and wind, just keeps getting more and more expensive every year; e.g. here in the UK, the £192 per MWh which EDF wants to panhandle from consumers and our grandchildren until the 2050s. Absurd, mendacious parasitism by your favoured industry. Of a piece with nuclear's lie of 'energy too cheap to meter' , first paraded by the Rand Corporation before the US Congress in the early 1950s.
Facts and costs are against you. Before you spread your misinformation devoid of current costs & numbers, why don't you improve the quality & good faith of your contribution to public debate, by injecting some honesty and rigour into your evident practical ignorance? Or is scaring the public with articles of outdated faith & vacuous assertion, bereft of fact and current intelligence, now the only tactic which the deceitful nuclear industry can bring to public debate?
@@TVdocsClimateScience Not sure what you meant by 192£ /MWh it certainly doesn't present the typical cost of electricity produced by even's todays nuclear power plants. For instance in Finland the production cost (including capital cost) is 55,4€ /MWh on nuclear. Windmills are on 42€ without taking in account energy storage and backup powerplants, and at 56€ with. The capital cost is major cost factor for modern nuclear and the next generation reactors seem to on the path to bring that down remarkably.
Clearly they do not know how the grid works. Three phase 50hz system. Supply and demand have to be synchronised at all times, just the inertia of generators and turbines dampens spikes in demand. Okay, you can try and run so called island systems, which are totally independent from the grid. And do not forget to install some energy storage for long winter nights.
Anyway, the earth is warming up, we should act fast and efficient, and I mean it. In this moment we should be already converting existing coal fired power plants to 4th gen nuclear - preferably molten salt.
If you think we don't know how the grid works when my coop supplies 1,6% of households in Flanders with green electricity, I think you are ignorant about what we do in reality.
@@dirkvansintjan8150 destabilising it and messing with it, mostly. Which means it's ironic who calls whom ignorant.
@@Primoz.r your latest comment exactly proves @Dirk Vansintjan 's point. Please educate yourself, there is a REScoop.eu member in Slovenia too: www.zses.si/
Can bicycle generators make a difference? Imagine all of those pelotons actually contributing to the electric grid...
What I hear here is pretty much the same I hear from Friends of the Earth Europe. However, they don't seem to be referenced at all during the document. Suspicious.
The film is made together with REScoop.eu, the main partner of FOEE regarding community energy. So you here the same information through different channels, wich is great. No need to be suspicious I think.
Referring to Girona, were some of the Som Energia sections filmed in your fine city in Catalonia? From a superlative EU energy conference on the outskirts of Girona in 2017 or 2018, I seemed to recognise Girona's riverside houses and the pedestrian bridge over which Nuri rode her bicycle. Beautiful city!
nuclear power is actually by far the safest energy source, the most efficient and also has 0 carbon emissions. I don’t understand why it’s being villanized in this film.
I would guess that they are anti nuclear since its a centralised power source. But yeah, its one of the safest energy sources we have, kinda wierd that they feel like its unsafe because of 1 incident, meanwhile people die from wind and solar every year.
Actually nuclear power is not safe at all, you just need to search which nuclear power plant have an accident insurance ?! None of them ... because there is no insurance company who can cover the cost of an accident.
@@farshadshafiei5892 maybe you should look the deaths per produced MWh instead.
It is sad to see such a low quality stuff from Patagonia.
@@farshadshafiei5892 lol literally look it up. it’s by far the safest energy source and it’s not even close
Abandoning Nuclear power was Germany's biggest mistake since invading Russia. We can have clean energy communities while maintaining our fleets of carbon neutral nuclear plants. Chernobyl and Fukushima were certainly disasters but Europe is not 1986 Soviet Russia - or prone to earthquakes.
Everyone puts solar energy in their roof and the big electricity companies goes out of business. So they are not going to let it happen not easily at least.
Ironic part is nuclear is safer and cleaner than renewables
agreed but you are talking to a brick wall. The makers of this film have absolutely zero technical knowledge in atmospheric science or the energy industry - they specialize in outsourcing high end clothing to mark up 1000% to dumbfucks who think theyre "helping the environment". This video is an dramatic advertisement for a false lifestyle and nothing more.
Ok, nice.
What about industrial needs of energy? What about transport?
This is not enough. We need nuclear.
We should use more nuclear energy
Read the evidence-driven reply I give above to your fellow pro-nuke delusionist Primoz Resman above. Then reply with your own evidence; not with the evidence-free simplistic assertion which you blurt here for public consumption.
the 5 stars in Italy have abdicated! They have have lost all wheels, can you delete them from the video?🤣! Grait Yvon Chouinard !
in our shrinking world all enterprises need to be morally, ethically and legally correct, however if 1/10 of 1% are making the laws and corrupting the lawmakers then what kind of world are we leaving for our children?
Wait... Patagonia is a big business...
How set a reminder?
you have to sub then find the video to set a reminder.
@@honeymonster135 thanks
This is a reminder :)
🤔👌👍
What about the waste from the windturbine? they can be used for maybe 30 years and it takes 10000 years before the waist will be gone.
exactly there are many problems with the energy sources they are promoting as well.
There are problems, yes, but the question is about Who has the power to supply it. You, and your local community or Other.
@@carolalpert8296 well, is the plan that community will own everything they need? Home appliance factory, circuit factory, drug factory, farms, hospitals, grocery stores, all the research organizations needed to develop the technology and so on? If not what makes energy so special that community needs to own the powerplant/windmill/.. and supporting infrastructure and maintain it? Where are the proofs that this would make any sense economically or environmentally?
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The problems this movie portrays is that communities are empowered when their individual resources stay within their communities rather than outsourced. Whole undeveloped countries living in poverty, while Uranium, gold, gems and oil are outsourced is proof that economically and environmentally, the present system is utterly untenable. Do not underestimate your community . Networks between them and others can create webs of suppliers to satisfy all needs And most important is the Individual power and abuliries gained by building and maintaining it. maintaining communty to dignity and ability
@@carolalpert8296 Sure I can see the value of a proud and empowered community but trying to be energy self-sufficient to reach that sounds pretty far fetched and not the easiest path. I can certainly see also the that there is a place for locally produced energy (solar panel type) in undeveloped countries in remote locations for small scale needs. However this film promoted the approach specifically for developed countries as far as I understood. Networks between communities creating web of suppliers... This sounds like a standard capitalism.
If that's not the true meaning of "woke" then I obviously dont know the meaning. You want to wake one of your friends up to understand why we need clean energy then you must not be talking to a human!
Well, it's actually said in this video: "This is not an energy issue." So you are trying to fight capitalism and you want to implement communism into our society. It's funny that the countries represented by individuals in this video have no experience with communist regimes, so they promote community-owned everything - "leveling the playing field". Trust me if you level the playing field, be careful not to level it too much, it's not fun.
Also, nuclear power is portrayed as some sort of devil in this video although it is actually really clean, safe, and reliable.
Silly... one day you may learn not look at things so completely black and white. There is grey... and many other colours.
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