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Window Pull for Real Estate Photography using Darken Mode #2
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- Опубліковано 1 кві 2016
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I know we all struggle to help shorten the time it takes to shoot and edit Real Estate Photography and one of the best tools / techniques I have found is what I like to call "Window Pull using Darken Mode.. This can really help save the time it takes to select things such as shutters, pillows, plants or basically anything that is in front of the view you are trying to mask in.
So sit back and enjoy this tutorial, please remember to post comments and a thumbs up is always nice..
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Disclaimer: as always there are many ways to do everything I do. And for this video there are certainly quality issues but as I always say, these tutorials are for the day to day real estate photographer and the focus is getting the information across.
Thanks Rich because of me watching some of your videos which you explain very well and easy to follow I finally took the plunge and got cc PS and am now using it in my RE instead of PS Elements.
Happy I can help Gene, thanks for the nice comment
I am blown away by how easy and smart this trick is! No more lasso tool for windows ever again! Thank you sooooooooo much!!
Fabulous stuff Rich! thanks
YOU ARE A GENIOUS!!!! I struggle all the time with windows, and in a few minutes you solved hours of frustration! Thank you!!
Thanks Rich. Have been struggling with this for years. I have two on bracket flashes. First efforts could not get frame overexposed enough from the bracket position. Then I took the slave flash and walked over to the window just off line with the "wide panel" in place. I set the timer on the camera to 10 sec and boom. Worked great. I had to auto align the frames though in the post processing. thanks again.
I've been shooting for about 2 years now and i love my work, Thanks so much Rich for this great video you have helped me so much today.
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So helpful Rich! Windows are my nemesis. Now I understand to flash to make the frames light. Makes perfect sense. Thank you!
Still the most valuable video on RE photography I have seen yet!! Thank you SO much for sharing this! You are my hero!!
Great technique! Shoot photography on the Gulf Coast of Florida. The window shots, showing the ocean are what we call the money shots! Both vacation rentals as well as sales. Great work!
Great video! I've struggled with window pulls but now I know this quick easy way to do it.
If I'm understanding this correctly, the real trick is in getting a shot that's exposed for the window, but also brightens the interior MORE than the properly exposed interior shot - otherwise the darken mask won't work. This seems extremely difficult to do, especially when taking very wide (and somewhat distant) shots. You either need a very powerful flash - or I guess you could set it up in the middle of the frame since it will be masked out in the final image.
I was skeptical but I just practiced this method in my home this morning and it indeed does work. Not perfectly, but close to it.
Give it time and you will get it 100%
Thanks Rich - love your videos and yes they are helping me to continue improving.
Really helpful, thanks for posting Rich!
Awesome tutorial, very helpful. Thanks Rich
Wow thats awesome
Thank you I agree it is pretty cool
Great tip Rich. I see the same problem that others are seeing. I'm going to guess that using Elements could be the main reason why it doesn't work well. First thing I noticed with LR6 is that it wont allow you to edit as layers in PS when Elements is your main laying application. So, I just exported two of the same images (with varied exposures) to PS Elements then recreated your layer scenario manually. Adobe must have left out some smarts in Elements because I'm able to darken the windows, but it also darkens everything else I touch. I guess it's time to buy the full PS version.
Great video. Nice way to work. Perfect. Thanks a lot 😀
Finally, Someone who can explain this process in plain english. Excellent tutorial. Thanks
Thank you.. Yes I try to make my videos so real people can understand and learn..
Doing something wrong, when I paint in the windows it does come in however outside the windows it paints black, why is it bleeding over onto everything else I paint?
Luv the room...great work
Great stuff. You could have brought some of the ceiling light back from being slightly blown out.
Invaluable information! Thank you!
Looks good, Thanks for the tutorial!
Super helpful thanks mate greatly appreciated
Freakin awesome mate , thanks heaps from th esunny Goldie in Australia ;)
Very helpful tutorial.
Easy to understand & very helpful, Thank you Rich Baum (:
Thank you Rich!
Thank you for your great tutorials Rich Baum, they help me a lot. Can you give me a quick advice on how I can avoid reflections of my flash in the windows when doing a window pull shot?
I would take a shot and move the flash to move your reflection than mask out the reflection you don't want. I would also take a window exposure with no lights on and than you can mask out any reflections.
Thank you for your reply Rich Baum! Totally makes sence.
I normally hold the flash as low as possible, beneath the window and flash up.
Great technique!
Hi Rich. As always thank you for all the amazing tips and tricks you provide here to the UA-cam community, I have learned so much from your channel. Here's my question on a window pull. What do you do when the correct exterior exposure exceeds your flash sync speed? i.e. 1/500th sec on a Canon camera makes the outside look great but obviously you can no longer overexpose the interior window frame with the flash. Do you change ISO & aperture settings? I am concerned that would cause image problems and not allow the layers to align properly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Take care.
Hopefully you see this comment. I followed your instructions step by step, everything works except for when I am painting over the windows and go past the area I want to show, it bleeds over into the inside of the room. I have tried everything but cannot figure it out. I have tried this probably 4 or 5 times now and keep getting the same thing. Hope you can enlighten me on what I am doing wrong. In the video when you painted over window it did not bleed past the outside. There is a distinct difference in my two shots too. Dark vs light. Thanks Nick
I can suggest one on one private coaching where we go over this technique.. if your interested just send me an e mail with Coaching in the subject line rich@richbaum.com
Thanks for sharing. Curious if it impacts the blinds too or just pulling the view from the window
Remember, dark and mode, only exposes what’s darker, and not what’s lighter so as long as the shades are brighter than the frame below it, which would be your flash exposure it won’t mask in if you’re in dark mode it’s a tricky concept to get at the beginning, but once you get, it totally makes sense, I’d be happy to help you in more depth, if you’d like to set up a private coaching session, if this interests you send me an email to richardrichbaum.com or you can text me at 916-296-5778. I’m in California and happy to talk to you to see if Coaching is a good step for you and helping your progression
Rich, thanks again for sharing your helpful ideas and tips. Just a question on composition on this photo, it looks like you had a pretty nice view out the big window, yet you left the blinds down and chose to shoot "through" them, was there a reason? I normally try to have blinds up if possible, especially if there's a good view to be captured. Thoughts?
Hi Lake Geneva Real Estate, Im not sure of what the go is in the USA, but in Australia, i prefer to have the blinds down but fully open. The reason for this is that the blinds tend to leave an unsightly band at the top of the window when drawn up. The blinds are more tidy left down but open, the views are still visible so it doesnt detract from the views beyond.....
@@jamestom2510 The clear view through the window far outweighs the unsightly band at the top. Also, having the blinds down and open actually makes the windows look brighter, due to light reflecting off each individual slat. With the blinds pulled up, it's much easier to pull in a well-exposed exterior.
I've tried and tried to make this work by following you on the video, but it just wont work for me. But I already have my own process it's not a fast and what you show but it works and I get good results, I'll keep trying I guess.
I do offer one on one coaching if this is something you might be
interested in. We are also putting on 3 day intensive workshops so there
are options for learning. Feel free to send me an e mail to rich@richbaum.com and check out this link to the workshops
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I'm having the same problems as several people - I do exactly what the video shows, yet everything I brush is darkened, not just the windows. Sure, I get the great view through the window, but the window frames, etc. darken along with the view. The ambient layer is gone. I've stopped the videos and followed along step-by-step to make sure I'm not missing a step yet it won't work for me! What is the issue?
You have to take the picture of the windows with the flash. Look at his video on this #1
Thanks for sharing!!
It's not working for me. I can't get darken mode to mask at all. It's just brushing over everything. How do I fix this?
You need to follow steps exactly or it won't work.. I can't help you here but if you send me an e mail we can possibly Send e mail to rich@richbaum.com set up some one on one coaching..
When I saw this method I was blown away but I followed your steps exactly and the Darken has absolutely ZERO effect like you demonstrated. No difference between DARKEN and NORMAL for me. The brush burns through to the darker layer with 100%. :(
Brian Davis this method needs to be done correctly of it doesn't work.
You have to put the correct picture on top before you hit mask. worked to me and Im a total beginner.
On another side note, can you do a quick vid on what size/ s you save these files to?? I am doing both large and small (270& 72dpi), it takes so much time.... Do you do both sizes for realtors, or just 72 for web use? Thanks!!
I give agents 72 for the mls and 300 for print. use actions in ps. record one for 300 or 72 then after the action is recorded, one click runs all the images you open individually. Takes a minute or two. if you shrink (drag) the ps window to its smallest size- l to r- the pics process faster but the output is full size.
Hi Rich, This looks awesome but for some reason it is not working. I have followed all the steps that you have shown. Help please? :) I took bracketed photos and chose the overlay one with no flash (to see the windows) and then one that I took with my speedlite on camera and pointed at the window to overexpose the frame like you did. I then bring the 2 shots into photoshop, put the windows I want to mask in on the top row, make a layer mask, change to darken mode and tried brushing in windows like you did but it doesnt work! Just darkens everything. What am i missing??
Lita Loncich send me an e mail rich@richbaum.com
It's a small thing... But it would be helpful if you added the camera settings in the Lightroom Loupe overlay. Thanks again for making these!
+Christopher O'Grady will remember next time.
+Rich Baum exposure info is under the histogram :-)
Awesome video thank you. I have been using Photoshop Elements 13 and taking the Lasso Tool and select the window and then choose darken but this takes forever to outline the window in Real Estate especially if you are going around pillows etc. Is it time to upgrade to the Real Photoshop PS and will this make my windows easier ? Also I think you can only get it through the cloud as a download now is this ok ?
Thank you very much
Christopher, i have a question, with this technique, does one have to flash the windows in order for the layering to work? I tend to shoot 3 bracketed shots. im getting mixed results with this technique........and other techniques take far too long for this to be a cost effective way to shoot interiors. Twilight photography has no problems, its just the daylight shoots which tend to get difficult.
stay away from HDR for interiors. It usually doesn't look very good. Use multiple lights if and when possible, it will make you stand out from the rest.
Hi Rich when i select layer mask my layer mask comes up white instead of black. How come?
As I say in all my videos, as you select "Add a layer mask" you need to hold down Alt on a PC or Option on a Mac
Helps if you explain what holding down option is actually doing. Cheers@@RichBaum
Is there a blending technique that works with dark wooden window frames? It's very hard to overexpose dark wood against the exterior.
I agree, dark wood can be hard.. I find that trying to pulling the shadows in Lightroom helps, my "Special Sauce" video shows you what I use and that tends to work well for darker wood..
like al those tutorials out there it didnt work . Nothing changed whan i do the masking .
You need to do it correctly. I’m confident it’s something simple your missing
Hi Rich, I am following every step perfectly, and for some reason the darken brush has no effect on anything, even though I see the mask in the thumbnail image on the layer to the right, then if I disable the mask I see where the black brush strokes appear. What in the world am I doing wrong?!
It sounds like you are brushing in on the image itself instead of brushing on the mask. Make sure that the mask is highlighted when you paint in WHITE on the black mask. Easy to accidentally hit on that image thumbnail for some reason...happens to all of us! :)
+TastyCritters thank you. what i was doing is while i was on the mask, i was still painting with the black lolol instead of white! i am learning so much each day, processing time is getting faster!
It doesn't work :(
It does work but you need to follow the steps exactly. I offer One on One coaching is that interests you and I can surely help you to understand this concept.. send me an e mail rich@richbaum.com
I wish you could of done from the beginning to know where exactly you started clicking .
I have several videos for you on this subject
I photograph mostly in locations that have nasty views out of the window. Oftentimes it is brick walls, a neighbor's house, or just construction sites. What is your philosophy in rendering such scenes? I find that allowing them to be overexposed de-emphasizes the eye sores. Thanks.
A clear view is not always the thing..
Rich, how do you avoid the flash's reflection in the windows when doing your window pull?
have you found a way to avoid flash's reflection in the windows? Sometimes it works, sometimes the reflexion makes the window pull unusable.
Hi, there is no difference between the darken or normal mode. Where is the mistake?
Followed to the letter. Does not work. Even had Adobe on the phone with me trying to get it to work.
I just took 4 new shots, ambient, 1 flash, 2 window pulls with a flash. I'm not sure how to send a screen cast ? I can send all RAW files to you ?? If you help me with this I can move forward but having so many issues with the windows. Please tell me the next step I should do for you.
THANK YOU TONS.
Bob
Yes, put your RAW files with your name on them and share a dropbox folder with rich@richbaum.com
But what’s exactly happening?
If you follow you should be able to see what’s going on.
If you need more help I offer private coaching.
rich@richbaum.com
Can this be done in Elements? I tried it on darken mode but nothing actually happened, more likely I'm doing it wrong
Sorry but I don't know about Elements.. and if you follow the instructions Darken mode can be very strait forward and easy.. I do offer one on one coaching so if you would like to know more about that just send me an e mail to rich@richbaum.com Also we are putting on 3 day workshops and have openings for the 2018 workshops..
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What am I doing wrong ?I have the brush and everything set like you and my windows are not getting dark at all ?
I would need more info to help.. If you want to do a screencast showing me what you are doing I can help you.. just send the screen cast link to rich@richbaum.com
Just tried again I don't know what I'm doing wrong. How can I send you the few photos for help ?
Put your files in a Dropbox folder and share with rich@richbaum.com
OK will do thanks
hi rich. after this worked once, the brush had no affect on the layer mask...tried several other times and no go. any ideas?
Sorry, hard for me to tell without more info..
make sure you are not painting white on white or black on black.
You can tell me why a real estate photographer can work with you and how and how we will work
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