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Window Pull in Darken Mode for Beginners
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2019
- This is a basic tutorial for those of you new to Real Estate Photography and struggling to achieve Clear Crisp and Well Exposed Window Views.
It's about understanding the concept of Darken Mode so follow along and I am confident you will learn this fantastic technique.
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I learned this from you awhile back and it has changed my real estate photography life. It may very well be one of the most valuable things that I've ever learned in terms of RE photography. Thanks Rich and I enjoy your podcast.
Thanks David, your comment has made my day
Incredible Rick...Thanks so much!!!!! HUGE help to me
Awesome Rich.. 👌
Thanks ✌️
Great technique, Rich. I just walked through this with you using test shots from my office and it worked like a charm. Canon R6, Flashpoint 200
I’m happy I can be of help.
Rich Baum - I love you, I just did my first darken mode and it was magical! Thank you so much for all of the support and information you put out into the world. The facebook site, shooting spaces - it's great. Using your Adorama link when I can! Thanks so much.
You are my hero.. thank you.
I'll be trying my first one soon thanks to Rich.
I'm new to real estate photography, your videos has been incredibly helpful. Thanks so much Rick!
My pleasure.
that was a great video for me as a starter in photography editing. thanks.
Happy I can be of help to your progression, I also offer private one on one coaching if you feel that might help you and help to get your skills up to speed quickly. If this interests you please send me an e mail to rich@richbaum.com
Best video ever!! Thank you so much Rich, you are a star!
Well thanks for the nice comment. It made my day.
Rich Baum if you would write a book , I would buy it. I am not a photoshop guru. I slowed down the youtube video speed to 50% to try and take everything in and slow down for me to take notes. This seperates us from the amateurs. Thanks for all that you do. I am in the process of starting my own realestate photography business and this is crucial to sucess.
Thanks Eric... if it would help I offer one on one coaching which can really help with your progression.. if interested just send me an e mail with coaching in the subject line rich@richbaum.com
Great video Rich. Always good to get back to the basics for a bit. Thanks!
Thanks Sal.. appreciate your comment
You da best...thank you
Thank you 😊
Thank you so much, Rich! This tutorial was incredibly helpful!
My pleasure. Happy to help.
Thanks Rich. I was having an issue with flash glare from the pull, but I started using a repair layer a while ago much like you showed, it works well for that little touch up. Bought some gear with your link as I very much appreciate these videos. Thanks again.
Thanks Steve so very much.. I appreciate using my link..
Thanks Rich, between you and Nathan Cool I think I’ve found my tutors. Good work sir!
Happy to be of help to your progression. Best of luck.
Transitioning into flambient. Will use your window pulls tips as a stepping stone. Great artistic touch to your photos. 👌
Thanks Rich. Great video.
Your very welcome
Thanks
You are the best trainer my friend. Come to MD for a workshop. Or why not do a zoom or go to meeting training.
Talk to you Monday
Hi Rich. Thank you for making this video as it’s exactly what I was searching for. I’ve been using Photomatix and I wasn’t getting the results I was looking for on the windows. Next shoot I’ll take my flash with me and will follow your instructions🤩. Subscribed👍🏼
Good luck and if you find you need more help I offer one on one coaching, just send me an e mail if your interested to rich@richbaum.com
@@RichBaum Thanks for the reply. I had an idea of using an HDR image combined with a properly exposed window image without flash and then one with flash and following your darken mode method.....email sent.
Wow, Rich, this time, I think I have understood...
I'm not English spoken native but I slowed the speed of the video, reading the subtitles and now, I think it's ok...
Thank very much. Let's have some exercises at home and it will be fine.
Happy to help!!
Thanks so much for this excellent video, Rick. Does the amount (i.e. power) of flash you need to blast at the area surrounding the window vary according to a) how much light is coming in from the outside; and b) whether the exterior is made up of, say, foliage within a couple of meters from the window or, alternatively, distant hills?
Thank you so much Rich!
Thank you Rick.
My pleasure
Nice! thank you!
Awesome tutorial! Thank you!
You are welcome
Good as always! I have very little experience, but I've walked through a video or two using layer masks and brushes so it wasn't all completely new. Rich, thanks for keeping it simple and on point. I can do this! The hardest part for me, actually, will be learning how to control the intensity of my flash since all my work so far has been HDR, ambient light only.
Remember, sometimes too much power actually hurts.. Give it some time and play around moving flash around to get best results.. and if you still need help send me an e mail and we can set up a coaching session rich@richbaum.com
@@RichBaum Wow, you are too kind! Yes, I need to give it more time and do much more playing around.
Excellent tips love the podcast and this channel awesome stuff and thank you so much for all of the great videos and cheers
Thank you so much for your kind words
Thanks Rich!
your welcome
Thanks Rich...
You are very welcome.
Hey Rich. I notice your ambient looked like it said the shutter speed was 1/20 and the flash shot was 1/125. What is your rule of thumb for shutter speeds?
Loose rule, ambient maybe 1/10sec and flash at least 1/20sec to control ambient color cast but often flash is 1/80 or higher. These settings change
Rich I found your channel 3 days ago and I've been watching your one after the other, absolutely love them! You explain every well and I think any photographer is learning something in your videos! I was having a hard time with windows doing HDR and then I found your flambiant technique, it was a game changer for me. I noticed you are rarely using window pulls, could you explain when do you have to use them? Is it only if you want to have a real clear view of the exterior? Thanks a lot and keep up the excellent work!
The goal is to get it in one shot.. and also for your flash exposure you expose for the brightest thing in the room and that is usually the window view.. so if I can't capture the exposure I want because its too bright I do a window pull which is basically a separate exposure just for the window and Darken mode method helps you from needing to select the window frame and masking in..
If you find you need more help you can contact me about a coaching session where we can work on any techniques you need help with. send me an e mail to rich@richbaum.com
Rich, this method is awesome and I can see using it on occasion, but almost every room I shoot has a window and the customer is seldom paying more than $150-$200 for the whole shoot. It takes too much time to take all the pics and then go into photoshop and go through this process on every room. Thoughts/suggestions ?
My suggestion is to try and expose for the window do you don’t need to do a window pull. With that said I suggest you do more than your current jobs pay. Look forward to getting better higher paying clients in the near future and those clients will be looking at your past work as examples why they will choose to pay more for better photos.
The ambient shot's color balance is way off and de-saturated, when you brush it in over the flash with the yellow wall the whole photo looks splotchy, hence why you eventually notice the flow is too high. But still, they don't match, so it just looks like you de-saturated parts of the wall randomly
Thank you for sharing. I have been following you. The main challenge of windows pull is the flash glare at the window. You finally explained how to fix it with the repair layer.
Perfect Luis
Hi Rich, thank you for all the great information. I have some trouble when the windows have dark brown window blinds. Any tips for over exposing dark color window dressings? Thanks again, Rich!
Maybe more power but something it just doesn't work
@@RichBaum Thanks Rich!
Anytime
Hi Rich! I am trying to move to using a monolight/flash vs straight HDR to get the window pulls. I came across this video and had one question...I went to your gear page and I see a lot of monolights there. I see you do weddings and other stuff besides real estate. I only do architecture and real estate so I was wondering if I have to buy one of those moonlights - the 300, 400 or 600 - that you list for a good range of property types which one would you choose? TTL or non TTL? HSS? I do anywhere from 2bed/2 bath condos to oceanfront homes with high ceilings. Most have nice views of the beach or waterways so I have to really up my window pulls. If you could recommend a good, all purpose light I will be most grateful! Thanks so much for your help!
At least for me I can get most every window pull with a single Speedlight but you might want a stronger light like the new XPLOR 300
Rich Baum So the 600 or 400 would be overkill in your opinion? I have tried over and over with the Speedlight and can’t get the windows overexposed. Can you just point a monolight at the window, turn it on and shoot without a trigger or do you have to flash it? I don’t want to spend $500 and buy the wrong thing. Thanks so much.
Rich this is amazing. I use affinity photo and it is very similar to photoshop just a little different layout. I’m having issues with doing this technique in the program. The darken mode paints as normal mode does, paints right over the window frame or anywhere else I drag the brush. Any idea what I can do to make this as easy as you’re showing?
Sorry can’t help you as I don’t know thAt program. Best of luck.
Thank you 😊
My pleasure
I’m new to the Real Estate photography, just wondering how much can this industry make per week? An average ?
Rich, I've done some searching on your youtube channel but didn't find the answers I was looking for. Can you do a short video on your "in camera" setting? How do you set your WB....automatic, WB card/filter, Kelvin, etc. How do you set your sharpness, contrast, saturation, etc. Thanks! Really enjoying your videos!
I could do that video but it would be really short..
Auto WB
No sharpening, no profiles
Always RAW
Hope that helps..
@@RichBaum Thanks!
I feel silly but for some reason it is not working for me. I even re-shot a super over exposed layer but the darkening mode still paints over the brighter areas surrounding the window. Followed step y step several times. Anyone have any idea what I might be missing? Thanks
Your just probably just missing a step.
Rich, I have been watching many of your videos since the beginning and you are a great instructor. I understand that everything is a business and we are all trying to make money but I notice in this video you direct us to another site for current presets. I recall in an earlier video you did on presets giving the information at the time saying that no one should ever have to pay for that information. Now when I go to that other site there is a charge for the presets. Thoughts?
I thought the same thing.. ??
Bill, The presets are still available for free if you watch my Preset Videos, that has never changed, but over the past 2 years I have received hundred's of messages asking where people can "Buy" these presets and I finally mad them available for sale on our Shooting Spaces Blog.. So I am confident you understand, you can still find them for free or you can buy them, and please believe me when I say many people would rather just buy presets than watch a video and try to understand what they are and take the few minutes to actually make your own preset for free,,
Rich Baum fair enough. I appreciate your response explaining it. Again I was not meaning anything negative or to call you out at all. I love your videos and will certainly continue to follow your channel. Keep up the great work and again thank you.
Bill, it’s very important that you understand as it would go against everything I believe if incame off as a poser. But I will say, after making free videos for almost 3 years I think I deserve to make a little profit. 😉
Hi Rich, I've learned so many things from your video, and window pull is one of those things. You are so precious for beginners like myself! I have a question : how do you deal when making the flash shot for window pull when you have direct light coming through the window ? It's okay to over expose the frame when there's shade over the view, but I struggle when the sun in coming directly in front of me, it just gets the whole image way overexposed ! Do I need more power from my light source in order to contrast and win direct light ? Please help !! And thanx again mate!
Best way for me to help you would be to set up a Coaching Session where I work together with you to teach you step by step how to do everything. If this interests you just send me an e mail with "One on One Coaching" in the subject line. rich@richbaum.com
Another great tutorial Rich! Really useful for realtors who need to get their listings photographed.
Keep it up. 👍🏽
Thank you
Hi, thank you for all the great information. I try it one more time ;-)
Trust me, this concept will change your life.. and if you still need help send me an e mail and let's set up a coaching session as I can totally help you get it.. rich@richbaum.com
@@RichBaum thank you for your reply, most appreciated. I take contact with you if i run into some other questions.
Anytime
I've used your window pull technique at almost every shoot but recently I upgraded to a Canon 5d and I use a Godox XPro trigger. For some reason, I'll expose for the windows to be dark, and when I trigger my lights, my camera is auto compensating or something and brings the exposure back up!!! I have no idea why this happens and the weird thing is its like it only happens in big rooms I really have no idea how to control it, but it's bumming me out that I can't deliver these window pulls as well, and have resorted now to selecting out windows sometimes (AHHH!)
I feel your pain but unfortunately I have no idea what's going on and I am not a Canon.
Hello.
Tnx for all the great tutorials. I have a question about Photoshop! When i press ALT + that button at the bottom! 😉
I get no result! But when i press CTRL and the same button! I get that little screen next to the picture, is this the right way? Or is there something Off with the configuration of my Photoshop?
Best Regards
Urban Eriksson
I would need to get more info to really know what your doing.. If you watch, I do this command several times and say exactly what I am doing each time, that is part of why people watch my videos as I try to be very clear.. I can say if you need further help and step by step guidance I offer private coaching so you can send me an e mail to get more info to rich@richbaum.com
If you are on a PC, the CTRL button with the "Add Layer Mask" icon at the bottom will display the black mask on that layer. I think ALT is the key instead of CTRL when you are on a Mac.
Informative, thanks. Was the video of you shot with a slow shutter though? Seems stuttery, unlessmy eyes?
Maybe.. I will watch out for my SS,
Yah, I notice that also, kind of choppy.. I will find out the issue .
Rick, your video is very informative. i have followed your procedure. however while using brush i am getting the window frame altered too, which is not obviously I aimed for? while in your video, you are getting fine, nice, sharp edge getting altered without affecting window frame...any idea
appreciate your help
Just remember anything you don't want to mask in needs to be over exposed.. if it's not brighter it doesn't work. If you need more help I can offer Private coaching
Coaching is $100 an hr and can really help you get up to speed with all the techniques on my UA-cam Channel.
We can also work on anything you like so that’s totally open to you.
I suggest you send me an e mail to rich@richbaum.com to see if coaching is. Good fit for you.
Rich, just to let you know, I followed the link to your podcast site on my iPad and it brought up all kinds of security warmings. It said it was public and had Certificate issues.
I will check it out... that's the first time I have ever heard that..
Seems logical but why is this better than a normal window pull, unless its poor weather and not producing much natural light?
It's a huge time saver.. no need to select the window to mask in.. and it's really helpful when there are things in front of the window view like furniture or plants..
Rich - Many thanks for your fantastic tutorials. One question please- I'm following this tutorial and everything's fine until I select the 'darken' mode. At that point, the entire photograph in front of me is darkening rather than just the area I brush in the layer mask. I can't see what I'm doing wrong?
Sorry Linda, I would really need to get more info and unfortunately I don't have the time to help. One option would be private coaching where I can go over every step as I share my screen with you and you can see how I do everything.. If your interested just send me an E Mail with "Coaching Info" in the subject to rich@richbaum.com
Thank you Rich, I'll do that!@@RichBaum
Let me see if I understand the flash layer correctly. You are exposing for the view, and adding flash to lighten everything surrounding the window. Is that correct?
Bingo Bingo "Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner" YOU GET IT!!!
Hope that helps Kate.. not go and try it out even at home, it's just a concept..
How can you say that Luminosity and Normal are "about the same"? Enormous difference!
It’s very involved and hard for me to explain.
Thanks for breaking this down. Flash is key!
Yes it is... but when it works it's magic.. honestly..
I subscribed. Great simple video!
One question, how do you change shutter speed without moving the camera. Because I use Genesis Tripod (cheap 100$ version), and sometimes when i just touch my camera to change the settings, camera moves a bit and its a problem... Is there a way to change shutter speed withour touching the camera ? Sorry for "noob" question. Thanks !
A good quality tripod and head is the most important piece of gear for this kind of photography. If your don't have it you are missing out.
My dilemma is this.. the entire room reflects in the window whenever I try to attempt this!! How is this not a problem for anyone else, I don't understand it!
Jason,
I can suggest private coaching and I can go over everything with you VIA SKYPE>.. if your interested send me an e mail with "Coaching Info" in the subject line. rich@richbaum.com
What does it mean when the darken mode still paints across bright window frame?
MAsterTroll to make this work you need to flash the window to over expose everything you don’t want masked in then you need to be sure your in darken mode and black brush needs to be selected.
I also offer coaching to help people get this concept. If your interested just send me an e mail to rich@richbaum.com
I've watched your videos and Nathan Cool's and can't get any thing to work.
I’m sorry you’re not having any luck with these techniques, usually it’s something simple that the photographer is not doing the proper way. I can suggest private coaching where we can go over any technique and I guarantee you will learn it very quickly, so if you’re interested just send me an email to rich@richbaum.com and I’ll reply and we can set up a coaching session
Honestly, this technique takes so long and consumes so many computer resources that I just don't see it being feasible in RE use (for my market). I cannot even imagine having to do this 20 times a day for one property, let alone sometimes 5 that I shoot per day.
It's actually fast and easy.. well worth it for my market
Rich Baum how long do you spend per house, including shooting time? For an average house doing 3 frame HDR I am done in 15-20 minutes, taking about 20 images. If I had to shoot and edit this way I’d probably quadruple the time required. No extra money in that for me, unfortunately.
The "Extra Money" comes from higher paying clients that will not accept HDR images.. It's well worth the extra time and effort to make far more $$$
@@RichBaum sure, but out here in my market that is not an option, so the technique is not suitable for RE. For commercial accommodation like holiday resorts and hotels, yes it would be essential, but that is an entirely different type of client with entirely different expectations. HDR is the perfect solution for RE work and done right it will save the photographer a lot of time and the realtor a lot of money.
Same here! Where can I check out some of your work ?
Wow. Love your videos.
Thank you so much
It took too long to get started. The title tells what it's about. Start with "A window pull is..." Keep it concise. This is youtube. The viewer is surrounded by distractions. They're looking for a reason to click away. The content started at 3:30, way too late.
Thanks for your feedback.