I mean like when I watched the 1st stream you played bone lab or bone labs rather rather I was extremely embarrassed for you considering the fact that you chose the female avatar with the big rockn tits so you couldn't see to grab your ammunition if I remember correctly that was your problem And don't take this wrong I really do mean you figured it out later but like the 1st moment where you were really going on about it really just rubbed me the wrong way And I really do agree with everything you're saying it's just that 1 part of the beginning really just got me edit. Jeez I really just wrote an essay
I may be just misunderstanding but radio buddy (if you mean the guy on the radio) is the big guy and the taxi driver. which talks to you throughout the game. if it is a particular song then please lmk.
@@jeremyhearne Most of the work went into the engine. And Marrow. And mod support. So I'm more... Lenient. Plus I didn't have expectations that this game was the second coming of Jesus Christ
Honestly, I bought it on release, and cba to refund it- but I don't think it's worth the $40. Boneworks is $30 without mods, so I feel like SLZ wanted to add on top of that game with an extra $10 for mod support, but even then I don't like the idea. Should lower Boneworks to $20, given it's not as polished looking as BL, and BL to $30 permanently. This is not to say BL beats BW in every way- the campaign was definitely shorter, but I do still like the majority of it. It's just the launch bugs I see pissing everyone off during things like the pillar climb and Motorway level. The feature where you can swap between standing and sitting play has gotten me killed a bunch in fights because I want to crouch manually behind cover, but the game takes it as taking a seat. Needs a toggle option. I'll be honest, I love BW in its entirety and will play it again and again for sure, but I feel like people loved the campaign for its freedom with player choice and some asset detail. BL does good in Descent with a similar design, but then it kinda falls off on the avatar levels. The bridge level was near empty and I deadass thought it was incomplete at first run. Valve did this better 18 years ago. BW's level design was very open and impressive and that's where BL really fails. They focused so much on the quest 2 (I could go on about that fucking headset forever) that the rest just felt "meh". It's good to have that optimization, but when it's your big selling point next to "oooo mods!" you're sacrificing quality elsewhere losing focus.
This is a dumb stance, they are trying to make it have integrated mod support and be on multiple platforms, you can’t just port boneworks to quest and be done with it Apparently they are doing big overhauls of the avatar maps to make them more bearable like adding jump pads to moonbase and making the boids in climb not change ur avatar I assume the biggest issues right now are launch day bugs that will all be fuckups that will be fixed by the end of the month. Beyond that they might do overhauls of the in game systems
@@pold111 To an extent. The graphics were barebones unity and bonelab is more optimized to run on the quest 2. Do not take this as "boneworks le bad" but comparing the two is weird considering two big differences.
The fact that you actually picked up on the character not being human and instead an NPC or a highly intelligent nullbody that got too smart... Is great, it means you were paying far more attention than most others.
@@3lectr0nix one of the clipboards states that everyone in fantasyland is controlled by an AI that has gone ultraconservative, formulating a cult-like following. They attack anyone that thinks outside of the reality bubble they have fabricated for themselves. After the introduction of weapons they begin killing those with stray thoughts. The supervisor thinks it's funny because they're not people. Monogon is aware of complaints but have chosen to do nothing but monitor the developments in the AI. The AI controls the NPCs (semi-self-sufficient nullbodies given personalities and set parameters on how to act). The NPCs will attack any among their rank that have thoughts that go against the AI guidelines. There's notes that employees do nothing but observe and fulfill the requests made by the NPCs at the wishing well. The NPCs are made by the in-universe SLZ, so when the NPCs ask for more people, Monogon would dress up Nullbodies. These nullbodies eventually merged into society and gained some intelligence, using tools and later hoarding weapons as detailed by the NPCs themselves. The heretic, i.e. you, is an NPC that spoke against the ultra conservative positions of the cultist omniturrets enforcing the AI's doctrine. You are one of several dozen they began killing.
would honestly have made sense that way anyway, considering you're supposed to be like a "godzilla" climbing the pillar would have made more sense that you could stay as tall and swat them out of the air.
I had literally the exact same issue where my right hand was bugged to grab whatever was in my buttpack slot. It was beyond infuriating and I had to restart the game for it to work, at which point it was a breeze. Until then, I was beyond frustrated. Seems I'm much in the same boat as you, Frustrated and disappointed and wishing for more boneworks but appreciating the experimentation and ideas (however poorly executed they were)
Same here i some how beat it with just the one hand. i died and fucking bolted as the tall before the birds spawned, getting up before i got transformed
This very much feels like someone at meta pushed them to drop the game early. They said it would release by the end of the year, but didn't commit to a release date until 5 days in advance. They could have had an extra 3 months to at least polish the basic stuff. I really hope they're able to fix this game up into what we know it can be.
It's like a FNAF: Security Breach or No Man's Sky type situation. Those games seemed unfinished, clunky, buggy, and pretty rushed when they first came out, but overtime they started getting updates and DLC that started making them better and more polished. Hopefully something like that would happen to Bonelab because right now 40 american shmuckaroos for this game in it's current state is not good. It pains me to see what's happened to this game because SL0 usually puts in a ton of effort and really care about what they create, so I bet there's a pretty huge chance that Meta has something to do with this. I don't want this game to be forgotten in a couple more weeks and overshadowed by the game that it apperently was supposed to be more optimized and enhanced at.
@@maxxz365 Its funny, I see people criticising Bethesda for relying on their modders to make an actually engaging experience, yet its apparently okay for this game to not only do _exactly_ that, but literally fucking say it in the players faces. I don't get it.
Seeing as he referred to needing mods in a "war" maybe they are intentionally holding off (or making as we speak) the "rest of the campaign" to be playable with full mod access? That would be a pretty wild move, and they are known for doing risky stuff like that. I cant say if all the decisions they have made are good (and some of the ones like the extreme lack of direction are blatantly bad), but they seem to know what they are shooting for, and its interesting to see a game company (any company in general really) do exactly what THEY want to do. Too many companies let go of their souls to appease the "average consumer" in my opinion. We will have to wait and see I guess, but I know they have big plans in the future, and I am glad they are shooting for something greater, even if they have hiccups along the way.
BoneLab feels very, very much like they’re going the VRChat route where the value of the game is going to be what players make for it. The single player has a strong “look what you can make with our toolset!” kind of demo feel to it and it’ll live or die by the mods and levels people make for it
FINALLY, a sane Bonelab review that isn't blindly calling it a masterpiece! So I'm a huge Boneworks fan and I REALLY wanted to like this game. Though after beating the game I had this 'oh' realization that the game was a pretty noticeable downgrade from its previous iteration. The guns feel off, the climbing feels a lot more awkward than in Boneworks, the driving (while an interesting addition) feels awful, and the level design is pretty frustrating (*cough*Pillar*cough*). Not to mention that the campaign is only 6 hours, 3 of which you spend playing glorified tutorials that teach you the mechanics of each of the characters, and add no significance to the underlying narrative. I was REALLY hoping for this game to have the top notch world-building that Boneworks had, but it just wasn't there. As soon as the real story began to pick up again, the game was already over. People are hyping this game up as revolutionary because of the work that has been put into the complex and innovative engine that was rebuilt from the ground up for Bonelab. But here's the thing: I don't care. Now yes, I do get that it's super impressive what they have managed to do from a game development perspective (I'm a programmer, I really do get it). But as a consumer and player, I honestly don't care about the abstracted backend that makes the game work; I respect it, but I'm only here for the game's content first and foremost, and the game's lacklustre content has unfortunately disappointed. Another argument I keep hearing is that the game is ALL about the modding, and not necessarily the campaign experience. Now this is a point that frustrates me because the game was definitely not marketed exclusively as a modding tool, it was marketed as a 'successor' to Boneworks with higher modding capabilities. And even when you entertain the idea that this game is purely built for modding, the experience doesn't feel any less disappointing, because so far the majority of mods I have seen are maps and avatars. I did not pay $40 so I could have VRChat with beefed up physics. Overall, Bonelab is a marginally okay game. It does definitely have its moments and it can be fun at times. But it's pretty obvious that the game lacks direction and is a very clear downgrade from Boneworks, making it a disappointing experience.
Couldn't of said it better myself, sadly there are too many people that probably don't even play the game that just slams it on the table and goes "VR MASTERPIECE"
that's one thing I noticed playing. The guns felt like they weren't nearly as accurate as they were in boneworks. The shotguns and other new weapons were pretty fun, though.
I don’t understand any of those issues. In my experience, the controls and physics were far less janky than in Boneworks, and the vehicle sections were great, and the campaign felt just as good. I’m genuinely starting to feel like I didn’t play the same game as y’all.
not saying bonelab is objectively good, but its kinda like war thunder; it isnt exactly fun by itself but i can have fun moments. It also seems like a pretty big stepping stone in standalone vr because they had to optimize this entire game for quest (which uses a phone chip) and they were actually able to pull it off. I agree that it was completely shit but I hope they will add in more content because the campaign was really underwhelming and kinda dry. Yes we have avatar changing but that only means that you can do a few more challenges to make the experience different. Im just trying to look ahead where SLZ can make a better, less glitchy, and longer game.
I feel like it's not an inherently bad idea to make a "Boneworks but with mod support" game, but for being more expensive and far shorter than Boneworks, and relying so heavy on mods made with an SDK that isn't fully released yet, Bonelab just isn't worth it. Also you hit the nail on the head. If Pillar was in the Ascent chapter I think people would have hated it less. Having a hectic level in the middle of the ""climax"" (and after you're allowed to swap at will) would be better than having it right after you bumble around on the moon for however long doing nothing in particular.
I love how people say "oh but mods" Mods don't fix anything, they allow others to fix what others were supposed to do while being completely unpaid. I dont want a campaign made by random people, I want a campaign made by the same people that gave me Boneworks campaign
I think the reason I liked Bonelab so much, was that I didn't play BoneWorks. This was my first time playing a Bone game, so it's more impressive. To me, I didnt have an expectation, thus was all fresh to me, so I enjoyed it for what it was. Sorry you couldn't enjoy it like I did, but I'm just going to be happy with my little baby game.
Well now it means you should go play the superior bone game(if you can that is I understand if you don’t have a gaming pc being the reason you started with bonelab)
Give boneworks a shot when you have the extra cash. If the video is any indication, you'll probably love what the original has to offer. I love both near equally and I cannot wait for the inevitable influx of mods or potential updates to bonelab.
this was all part of their insidious plan. they knew babbies like you would go out and gargle their balls to defend the game without knowing any better.
When the credits started rolling in the cab, I genuinely thought it was one of those "fake endings" that games do sometimes, in which credits roll and then you just keep on playing until the real ending of the game. I just couldn't imagine the game would end in such an underwhelming and short notice, so I even explored the void main menu map in hopes to find a secret way to continue the campaign, but it seems this is all we get. I like and appreciate the mod support, but I'd say it's a bit expensive for what it offers as a base game, and some mechanics feel worse than in boneworks, such as the shooting and the climbing, which are both crucial for the gameplay core of the game. I can only hope that SLZ will continue to update the game with new content/features to make our money worth it.
I wouldn't hold my breath on an update of any kind. SLZ is prolly gonna do what they always do. Release a game out of nowhere (Bonelabs) then go radio silent for like 2 years before releasing some new game again.
@@hoxtonlover The game is fun as it is, as Boneworks was, I just think the price should have been lowered, or the campaign made longer, or the mod support completely integrated within the game to build levels/other stuff within the headset rather than on the PC. As it is it feels more like a DLC/Expansion, still fun, but too highly priced.
I'm gonna be honest, big boy Micheal Wyckoff and his music gang mostly carried this game for me, they knew that if they didn't use multiple music genres and made lots of banging tracks for the OST than this game would've been dead in the water
When I was playing bonelabs on quest I thought I was able to play mods without my computer but the problem is that there are none you have to do it manually which ruins the point of an integrated mods if you have to do it out of bonelabs In conclusion, stress level 0 I love you but why Edit: I totally forgot to add this but collecting stuff is a pain in the anus
They haven't integrated the built in mod system yet so right now most mods are Avatars and sandbox maps as adventure maps and such are absolute garbage as you can't modify anything until they properly release the dev kit along with the proper mod support
DRG Is the universal game palette cleanser. One of the few times where I played a game where every mechanic and design choice made perfect sense and made me wish more games were designed like DRG
6:42 I had that exact same bug, but it happened to me on the racing minigame. I think that having to use my left hand to drive when I'm right handed is the sole reason as to why I had some of the worst motion sickness after I got through with it. I'm also sort of bummed out that you only get the avatar watch at the end of the game, when it was heavily advertised throughout the trailers and previews.
Happened to me too but it was during the street fight mode and it was in the shape of my pistol. I managed to fix it but don't remember how, pretty sure it was with my inventory.
I had to Google how to finish the trash ball puzzle because mine was just straight up falling short for no reason. I spent 25 minutes on it before getting tired and pulling the headset off, only to fond out I was doing nothing wrong and that the physics were just acting weird for no reason :)
the pillar climb took me less than 10 minutes, but looking at your footage, I think the quest 2 version has a LOT less void birds, and there weren't ANY for me at the floating sphere
I get your criticism HOWEVER I really enjoyed the whole game EXCEPT THE PILLARS! and it took me a while to figure out the crane in the lab too. I think and hope they will support this game for a long time with more mod support and more official levels etc. Boneworks got a bunch of extra content after launch and im sure this will too.
Both Boneworks and Bonelab are sandbox games at their core. Biggest difference is that Boneworks has a sandbox type campaign where you can just fuck around while Bonelab is just move from 1 door to another
this is THE BEST EXPLANATION of all videos. i have the exact same feeling about the game, AND THE PILLAR LEVEL i felt you. i got the same big and small avatars over and over again....
I actually got bugged during the Pillar Climb too, but it was my left hand. I tried to force my way through the level but I was getting too frustrated from falling over and over again and not being able to grip with both hands, and in the end I had to quit. Trying the level again the following day, the bug was gone. I liked Bonelabs but man, I can't help but think of what could have been.
Pillar climb was definitely the worst even during testing for the game and when it originally came to my company it was very different, no boids (official void bird name then), no body log (omnitrix) and the boid ball (yes official name of that ball then) didn’t move so you could easily stab. When the body log was integrated they also added the boid switching mechanic making that level 10 times more painful. If anyone wants to ask more questions about this game 8 weeks before release feel free to ask them.
@@doctoradventure413 it may have been in the works at some point later in development but only to my experience with the game pre launch on quest 2, it wasn’t implemented in the first week of testing. I believe it was week 2/3 that it was as well as half of the changes made to pilar climb
I had fun playing my game but I agree about the story, I really wanted to learn more about fantasy land and such but almost nothing was explained. This game felt like a $40 DLC more than an actual new game.
@@robertwyatt3912 yeah i read everything and did everything but still felt under whelmed, its like they made a filler episode for their game i think the next one is gonna be 10x better than bonelab and boneworks combined
i had the same right hand glitch in my playthrough as well, and it took me having to look up how to finish the level to even get through it because i didn't realize you had to shoot the void ball till it dies since it doesn't really give you much feedback if you shoot it.
Its not just you who had an issue with the right hand not working, i had it with my left on the moon level leaving me unable to grip the capsule, this made me tediously have to repeat the level over 4 times until i gave up and reset the game. I feel your pain dude.
I am saddened to say that, Yeah I agree. I do still find it very fun personally but all the points in the video were very fair and I think that bonelabs is definitely the most hyped up and underwhelming game I’ve ever played. Again, not to say I hate it because I really like it.
This is the most valid review I've seen of Bonelab I did expect the campaign to be longer and for the game to be like 25 bucks but on the other hand they had Quest 2 in mind so it's not like they could've made a massive campaign or stuff like that. The game still gas updates in store so we'll just have to wait and see what happens at this point
this is the best critique i've seen of the game But unfortunately vr fans will ofcourse just shrug it off as blind hate, like they've done with every other critique
I thought it was pretty clear that the "void birds" only forcibly change your avatar when they hit your ben 10 arm. I hated that section too. Huge slog. Once i figured out that I could hold my arm out and force a random avatar it got easier. Fuck trying to do parkour as short
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every complaint is valid, it's as if they designed the game to be modded and that's the whole game, which really sucks for the price, especially when the SDK to even mod cool shit isn't even in the game yet.
I didn't really have an issue with pillar climb, but I can see how people would have a problem. The collision of the pillars felt a little shody, making them a bit hard to get a grip on them. Also, there's those midevil turrets that are almost impossible to kill unless your playing as tall or you're willing to waste all your ammo.
Hey,just as a note:SLZ is already taking these problems into account and theres a beta branch on steam that fixes nost of the issues that people have(not the story but the level design a bit and some other stuff i think) I do think that SLZ will fix most of the issues with time,they seem like a studio that cares from what i"ve seen.
Now,i'm not saying that"you people can't complain now",the game should have had most of these problems fixed from the start,this was just to say"at least they dont plan on abandoning it anytime soon"
Yeah, I’ve talked with three of the SLZ team working on the issues, and they are really diving into the issues and trying to fix the problems they are going to be able to, I also think it’s poss that they are planning to add a dlc to this game which might help
I got caught once in pillar. I turned into Heavy and fell into a small gap, effectively *softlocking* me. There were no fish around, I killed them all around that area, or they wouldn’t target me.
I agree with some of the stuff. But I do have to say that the mods for the game was the most hyped up part of the game by far. But the fact that the mods that were made by the community are still not in the game 23 days after the games release is actually kind of sad. I’m sure in the future we will see native mod support on the game, and all the creativity from the community blasting from that idle arcade machine in the corner of the BoneLab hub.
I think the biggest problem is that boneworks was a really good format and if they made something that doubled down on the gunplay and more varied enemies, it would have been the perfect VR game. Thats the problem, this COULD have been really fucking good. But it isnt and they have the gall to rely on mods.
Every glitch u got on the Pillars I got with the gun spawning in ur hand when u grip to right hand being completely useless but the gun glitch is fixed by going into the inventory system the the hand u glitch u have to reset ur game :/
I learned that to reload guns with heavy, you have to hold the gun by the barrel instead of the trigger. Making a cool reloads for pistols, but takes more time.
It sucks because I think BoneLab is rad as hell, definitely a gateway into a next level of VR games with being able to share Marrow with the public. But it is very obvious that the campaign is a fraction of what it could be, which honestly I suspect is a consequence of being able to fit this damn thing on a Quest 2. Seeing the patch note wall in game makes me hopeful that there will be more campaign and mini game updates, but even if there isn't I still thought it was neat. Probably should cost the same as Boneworks though until they add more stuff.
The cart is way easier to drive with other avatars, and a way to get around pvp is pick up the enemies and throw them, or head butt them… or you can go psycho and ram them into the wall And for avatars… pretend you are REMTOELY CONTROLLING a big ass robot with your hands Edit: pillar climb is WAY easier if you go through it fast enough, just pretend you are a speed runner when it loads up
If the game was 10, maybe 15 (at most) dollars than I'd be happy. Since bonelabS was disappointing, I revisited boneworks and realized that bonelabs actually has a superior physics engine (barring the jumping mechanics, which I doubt were intentional and I assume they will be fixed in a later patch) and that climbing and throwing things felt nicer actually in comparison. When ford climbed things, his model would push off of the surface you were trying to climb (almost making it feel unintentional that you were doing this.) In bonelabs, your player character does this thing where the model is suspended away from the surface by its feet, making your hands more like anchor points on a surface and making it much easier to climb. Throwing things has always been weird in vr games, at least in my experience with the oculus controller mechanics, but in bonelabs it felt relatively more consistent than its predecessor. It felt less janky, and I can appreciate it for that. For me, boneworks made up for its weak story because what you were doing was really fun and the environments you were in were pretty cool. The game had this sense of wonder to it. It made you curious as to what you were even doing, but that mysterious aspect made it feel like one of the most authentic gaming experiences I've ever had in a *long* while. The soundtrack made it so much better too, trying to fit into that "virtual" aesthetic. Bonelabs has a wonderful soundtrack, don't get me wrong, but it feels it would be more at place in a different atmosphere, one that bonelabs wasn't going for. Some of the tracks felt more like something I'd see in beat saber, and while they were cool and all they just didn't match the experience. I expect, with time, this game will be really good, but until they decide to implement an actual campaign/storyline (not before fixing its terrible level design already present,) it's not worth my $40. The avatar system was... off-putting. It doesn't make sense to me that the devs would implement a feature that conflicts so heavily with other key mechanics in the game. Little Big Planet 3, if you remember that game, had a similar system, but it was actually good because that mechanic was that installment's focus. The avatar system in bonelabs feels like it was just slapped in, and they designed the entire latter half of the game to teach people about it so they can play around with it using mods. This feels much more like an overexaggerated DLC than it does a proper sequel. All of these new features could be implemented in an update/DLC to boneworks, but now I'm sitting here writing this with a 40$ hole in my steam wallet.
I personally felt it really offputting some of the avatar models too. If not for cute fanservicey anime women and wack ass character design, it'd be better. I get the game in-story is like "in the virtual world, you can make yourself into anything" and all, but looking down as a dude and seeing a pair of tits is wild.
I feel the omnitrix comment a lot Like how much cooler could it have been to twist a dial showing the silhouettes of the avatars and slapping it down to change
I knew somethin was up with Bonelabs when everyone praising the game was just posting their modded avatars and everyone critiquing it was actually playing it.
My left hand stopped working multiple times in the story, making it physically impossible to reload and unlock capsules, it happened the most unlocking the avatars, the one part where I NEED to open capsules 😢
It’s so weird how to progress the story they have you play all the activities like sandbox and parkour…only to make you do them again for the avatars. It should’ve just been 1 avatar mission that had you switching between them for sections
No Radiobuddy? No play.
You searched for radio buddy and only found disappointment
I mean like when I watched the 1st stream you played bone lab or bone labs rather rather I was extremely embarrassed for you considering the fact that you chose the female avatar with the big rockn tits so you couldn't see to grab your ammunition if I remember correctly that was your problem And don't take this wrong I really do mean you figured it out later but like the 1st moment where you were really going on about it really just rubbed me the wrong way And I really do agree with everything you're saying it's just that 1 part of the beginning really just got me edit. Jeez I really just wrote an essay
I’m so pissed that I didn’t get radiobuddy again. 2/10 game
If only i could "Pick it up" more often
I may be just misunderstanding but radio buddy (if you mean the guy on the radio) is the big guy and the taxi driver. which talks to you throughout the game. if it is a particular song then please lmk.
You know J really hates a game when he posts 2 videos about it in less then a week
Tis a given mate. When a game causes this many problems, for being this overpriced for 40 bucks? Nah mate
For most UA-camrs it’s the opposite, J is just built different
Whilst also commenting that he wouldn’t make another video on this piece of shit
@@wiredmetalplant6125 and most other youtubers are nothing more than snivering shills
@@jeremyhearne Most of the work went into the engine. And Marrow. And mod support. So I'm more... Lenient. Plus I didn't have expectations that this game was the second coming of Jesus Christ
Bonelabs has a very "This should have been DLC/ Major update" vibe
Honestly, I bought it on release, and cba to refund it- but I don't think it's worth the $40.
Boneworks is $30 without mods, so I feel like SLZ wanted to add on top of that game with an extra $10 for mod support, but even then I don't like the idea. Should lower Boneworks to $20, given it's not as polished looking as BL, and BL to $30 permanently. This is not to say BL beats BW in every way- the campaign was definitely shorter, but I do still like the majority of it. It's just the launch bugs I see pissing everyone off during things like the pillar climb and Motorway level.
The feature where you can swap between standing and sitting play has gotten me killed a bunch in fights because I want to crouch manually behind cover, but the game takes it as taking a seat. Needs a toggle option.
I'll be honest, I love BW in its entirety and will play it again and again for sure, but I feel like people loved the campaign for its freedom with player choice and some asset detail. BL does good in Descent with a similar design, but then it kinda falls off on the avatar levels. The bridge level was near empty and I deadass thought it was incomplete at first run. Valve did this better 18 years ago.
BW's level design was very open and impressive and that's where BL really fails. They focused so much on the quest 2 (I could go on about that fucking headset forever) that the rest just felt "meh". It's good to have that optimization, but when it's your big selling point next to "oooo mods!" you're sacrificing quality elsewhere losing focus.
@@bosnia_gaming boneworks isn't as polished looking as bonelab?
This is a dumb stance, they are trying to make it have integrated mod support and be on multiple platforms, you can’t just port boneworks to quest and be done with it
Apparently they are doing big overhauls of the avatar maps to make them more bearable like adding jump pads to moonbase and making the boids in climb not change ur avatar
I assume the biggest issues right now are launch day bugs that will all be fuckups that will be fixed by the end of the month. Beyond that they might do overhauls of the in game systems
@@pold111 To an extent. The graphics were barebones unity and bonelab is more optimized to run on the quest 2. Do not take this as "boneworks le bad" but comparing the two is weird considering two big differences.
Bonelab
The fact that you actually picked up on the character not being human and instead an NPC or a highly intelligent nullbody that got too smart... Is great, it means you were paying far more attention than most others.
I played through the intro and looked at all the clipboards and haven't picked up on that lmao
@@3lectr0nix one of the clipboards states that everyone in fantasyland is controlled by an AI that has gone ultraconservative, formulating a cult-like following. They attack anyone that thinks outside of the reality bubble they have fabricated for themselves. After the introduction of weapons they begin killing those with stray thoughts. The supervisor thinks it's funny because they're not people. Monogon is aware of complaints but have chosen to do nothing but monitor the developments in the AI.
The AI controls the NPCs (semi-self-sufficient nullbodies given personalities and set parameters on how to act). The NPCs will attack any among their rank that have thoughts that go against the AI guidelines. There's notes that employees do nothing but observe and fulfill the requests made by the NPCs at the wishing well. The NPCs are made by the in-universe SLZ, so when the NPCs ask for more people, Monogon would dress up Nullbodies. These nullbodies eventually merged into society and gained some intelligence, using tools and later hoarding weapons as detailed by the NPCs themselves.
The heretic, i.e. you, is an NPC that spoke against the ultra conservative positions of the cultist omniturrets enforcing the AI's doctrine. You are one of several dozen they began killing.
Idk if I'm an outlier but I had assumed that before I was past the lab. Not trying to brag of course.
i picked up on that also which and i think its really cool as a story concept, there arent enough games that do that imo
3:43 the guy on the right saying “THE SLIMMEST AMERICAN” could not be more appropriate for what J is talking about at that moment in time
Note: the tower has been patched, so now the birds can't change your avatar anymore, and there is a checkpoint in the middle of the climb.
Really wish they had an open playtest to get these QOL bits into the game sooner tho
They also updated the moon level, adding a ton of signs and jump pads.
would honestly have made sense that way anyway, considering you're supposed to be like a "godzilla" climbing the pillar would have made more sense that you could stay as tall and swat them out of the air.
Wait, you mean the fucking birds _weren't_ supposed to be able to forcibly change your avatar!?
@@matt2centerback no they were, but they patched it because it was so obnoxious.
I had literally the exact same issue where my right hand was bugged to grab whatever was in my buttpack slot. It was beyond infuriating and I had to restart the game for it to work, at which point it was a breeze. Until then, I was beyond frustrated. Seems I'm much in the same boat as you, Frustrated and disappointed and wishing for more boneworks but appreciating the experimentation and ideas (however poorly executed they were)
I too had the same issue and I almost threw my index, but in the end we made it out
@@Joshrouss I was straight up paranoid my index was busted. I had to take it off and have a breather before coming back to the game
Same here, I just gave up and said "Welp, guess I'm fucked until they patch it."
I had the same issue, but it turns out it was caused by my shirt size in the settings being wrong.
Same here i some how beat it with just the one hand. i died and fucking bolted as the tall before the birds spawned, getting up before i got transformed
I love J's always critical with his review videos. Not afraid of saying what he doesn't like.
This very much feels like someone at meta pushed them to drop the game early. They said it would release by the end of the year, but didn't commit to a release date until 5 days in advance. They could have had an extra 3 months to at least polish the basic stuff. I really hope they're able to fix this game up into what we know it can be.
Yeah, everything just feels less polished compared to Boneworks. Just gotta hope updates will come.
@@averagejoe5241 SLZ has committed to releasing updates to fix the bugs
@@notlNSIGHT thanks for letting me know, would really suck if they didn’t
It's like a FNAF: Security Breach or No Man's Sky type situation. Those games seemed unfinished, clunky, buggy, and pretty rushed when they first came out, but overtime they started getting updates and DLC that started making them better and more polished. Hopefully something like that would happen to Bonelab because right now 40 american shmuckaroos for this game in it's current state is not good. It pains me to see what's happened to this game because SL0 usually puts in a ton of effort and really care about what they create, so I bet there's a pretty huge chance that Meta has something to do with this. I don't want this game to be forgotten in a couple more weeks and overshadowed by the game that it apperently was supposed to be more optimized and enhanced at.
@@renhaker a new update for Bone,an came out recently, so I guess it is going down that path
Most of the campaign felt like an advert for the SDK, like the devs want modders to make half the game your paying for.
"We dont need players, we need creators"
Well, fucking pay me then.
the Bethesda mindset
And the SDK is not complete, only allowing us to import avatars and maps, that's it.
@@maxxz365 Its funny, I see people criticising Bethesda for relying on their modders to make an actually engaging experience, yet its apparently okay for this game to not only do _exactly_ that, but literally fucking say it in the players faces. I don't get it.
Seeing as he referred to needing mods in a "war" maybe they are intentionally holding off (or making as we speak) the "rest of the campaign" to be playable with full mod access? That would be a pretty wild move, and they are known for doing risky stuff like that.
I cant say if all the decisions they have made are good (and some of the ones like the extreme lack of direction are blatantly bad), but they seem to know what they are shooting for, and its interesting to see a game company (any company in general really) do exactly what THEY want to do. Too many companies let go of their souls to appease the "average consumer" in my opinion. We will have to wait and see I guess, but I know they have big plans in the future, and I am glad they are shooting for something greater, even if they have hiccups along the way.
BoneLab feels very, very much like they’re going the VRChat route where the value of the game is going to be what players make for it. The single player has a strong “look what you can make with our toolset!” kind of demo feel to it and it’ll live or die by the mods and levels people make for it
For me it was very underwhelming but had some fun moments
J saying 'Knock off Omnitrix' just made me realize the fucking potential that could have had, holy shit.
FINALLY, a sane Bonelab review that isn't blindly calling it a masterpiece!
So I'm a huge Boneworks fan and I REALLY wanted to like this game. Though after beating the game I had this 'oh' realization that the game was a pretty noticeable downgrade from its previous iteration. The guns feel off, the climbing feels a lot more awkward than in Boneworks, the driving (while an interesting addition) feels awful, and the level design is pretty frustrating (*cough*Pillar*cough*). Not to mention that the campaign is only 6 hours, 3 of which you spend playing glorified tutorials that teach you the mechanics of each of the characters, and add no significance to the underlying narrative. I was REALLY hoping for this game to have the top notch world-building that Boneworks had, but it just wasn't there. As soon as the real story began to pick up again, the game was already over.
People are hyping this game up as revolutionary because of the work that has been put into the complex and innovative engine that was rebuilt from the ground up for Bonelab. But here's the thing: I don't care. Now yes, I do get that it's super impressive what they have managed to do from a game development perspective (I'm a programmer, I really do get it). But as a consumer and player, I honestly don't care about the abstracted backend that makes the game work; I respect it, but I'm only here for the game's content first and foremost, and the game's lacklustre content has unfortunately disappointed.
Another argument I keep hearing is that the game is ALL about the modding, and not necessarily the campaign experience. Now this is a point that frustrates me because the game was definitely not marketed exclusively as a modding tool, it was marketed as a 'successor' to Boneworks with higher modding capabilities. And even when you entertain the idea that this game is purely built for modding, the experience doesn't feel any less disappointing, because so far the majority of mods I have seen are maps and avatars. I did not pay $40 so I could have VRChat with beefed up physics.
Overall, Bonelab is a marginally okay game. It does definitely have its moments and it can be fun at times. But it's pretty obvious that the game lacks direction and is a very clear downgrade from Boneworks, making it a disappointing experience.
Couldn't of said it better myself, sadly there are too many people that probably don't even play the game that just slams it on the table and goes "VR MASTERPIECE"
that's one thing I noticed playing. The guns felt like they weren't nearly as accurate as they were in boneworks. The shotguns and other new weapons were pretty fun, though.
I don’t understand any of those issues. In my experience, the controls and physics were far less janky than in Boneworks, and the vehicle sections were great, and the campaign felt just as good. I’m genuinely starting to feel like I didn’t play the same game as y’all.
not saying bonelab is objectively good, but its kinda like war thunder; it isnt exactly fun by itself but i can have fun moments. It also seems like a pretty big stepping stone in standalone vr because they had to optimize this entire game for quest (which uses a phone chip) and they were actually able to pull it off. I agree that it was completely shit but I hope they will add in more content because the campaign was really underwhelming and kinda dry. Yes we have avatar changing but that only means that you can do a few more challenges to make the experience different. Im just trying to look ahead where SLZ can make a better, less glitchy, and longer game.
i don't think people are insane for having a good experience...
I feel like it's not an inherently bad idea to make a "Boneworks but with mod support" game, but for being more expensive and far shorter than Boneworks, and relying so heavy on mods made with an SDK that isn't fully released yet, Bonelab just isn't worth it.
Also you hit the nail on the head. If Pillar was in the Ascent chapter I think people would have hated it less. Having a hectic level in the middle of the ""climax"" (and after you're allowed to swap at will) would be better than having it right after you bumble around on the moon for however long doing nothing in particular.
I love how people say "oh but mods"
Mods don't fix anything, they allow others to fix what others were supposed to do while being completely unpaid. I dont want a campaign made by random people, I want a campaign made by the same people that gave me Boneworks campaign
I think the reason I liked Bonelab so much, was that I didn't play BoneWorks. This was my first time playing a Bone game, so it's more impressive. To me, I didnt have an expectation, thus was all fresh to me, so I enjoyed it for what it was. Sorry you couldn't enjoy it like I did, but I'm just going to be happy with my little baby game.
Well now it means you should go play the superior bone game(if you can that is I understand if you don’t have a gaming pc being the reason you started with bonelab)
Give boneworks a shot when you have the extra cash. If the video is any indication, you'll probably love what the original has to offer. I love both near equally and I cannot wait for the inevitable influx of mods or potential updates to bonelab.
this was all part of their insidious plan. they knew babbies like you would go out and gargle their balls to defend the game without knowing any better.
Play boneworks and realise "holy shit, bonelabs IS a little baby game. Theres like 300% more content here!"
I like bonelab more, and yet I played Boneworks.
When the credits started rolling in the cab, I genuinely thought it was one of those "fake endings" that games do sometimes, in which credits roll and then you just keep on playing until the real ending of the game. I just couldn't imagine the game would end in such an underwhelming and short notice, so I even explored the void main menu map in hopes to find a secret way to continue the campaign, but it seems this is all we get.
I like and appreciate the mod support, but I'd say it's a bit expensive for what it offers as a base game, and some mechanics feel worse than in boneworks, such as the shooting and the climbing, which are both crucial for the gameplay core of the game.
I can only hope that SLZ will continue to update the game with new content/features to make our money worth it.
I wouldn't hold my breath on an update of any kind. SLZ is prolly gonna do what they always do. Release a game out of nowhere (Bonelabs) then go radio silent for like 2 years before releasing some new game again.
@@hoxtonlover The game is fun as it is, as Boneworks was, I just think the price should have been lowered, or the campaign made longer, or the mod support completely integrated within the game to build levels/other stuff within the headset rather than on the PC. As it is it feels more like a DLC/Expansion, still fun, but too highly priced.
I hope the guy trying to mod boneworks into bonelab can manage to do it
At least they didn't simply reuse the old radio buddy song, but actually made a second banger for this game.
they made an ost worth of bangers for this game
I'm gonna be honest, big boy Micheal Wyckoff and his music gang mostly carried this game for me, they knew that if they didn't use multiple music genres and made lots of banging tracks for the OST than this game would've been dead in the water
"I just learned that word and I wanted to use it."
Understandable.
When I was playing bonelabs on quest I thought I was able to play mods without my computer but the problem is that there are none you have to do it manually which ruins the point of an integrated mods if you have to do it out of bonelabs
In conclusion, stress level 0 I love you but why
Edit: I totally forgot to add this but collecting stuff is a pain in the anus
They haven't integrated the built in mod system yet so right now most mods are Avatars and sandbox maps as adventure maps and such are absolute garbage as you can't modify anything until they properly release the dev kit along with the proper mod support
SL0 will definitely be adding integrated mods, they jsut need to choose the ones they want
@@SixCylinder9111 the dev kit is already released, actually. Mapping just takes time.
bonelab*:(
If you ever want to feel fun after having a bad game experience then deep rock galactic is the game for you
Edit: holy crap 7 likes I’m popping off
DRG Is the universal game palette cleanser. One of the few times where I played a game where every mechanic and design choice made perfect sense and made me wish more games were designed like DRG
@@artuno1207 DRG is the hidden giant that AAA games used to be
ROCK AND STONE BROTHA
@@arrow1764 Rock And Stone YEAH
6:42 I had that exact same bug, but it happened to me on the racing minigame. I think that having to use my left hand to drive when I'm right handed is the sole reason as to why I had some of the worst motion sickness after I got through with it. I'm also sort of bummed out that you only get the avatar watch at the end of the game, when it was heavily advertised throughout the trailers and previews.
Happened to me too but it was during the street fight mode and it was in the shape of my pistol. I managed to fix it but don't remember how, pretty sure it was with my inventory.
I had to Google how to finish the trash ball puzzle because mine was just straight up falling short for no reason. I spent 25 minutes on it before getting tired and pulling the headset off, only to fond out I was doing nothing wrong and that the physics were just acting weird for no reason :)
the pillar climb took me less than 10 minutes, but looking at your footage, I think the quest 2 version has a LOT less void birds, and there weren't ANY for me at the floating sphere
I beat pillar climb pcvr second try lmao, i don’t know why people are complaining
I'm glad you mentioned Ben 10, it's eas one of the first things I thought of and loved the concept at least.
I feel you a lot in the pillar climb, I also called the void birds "Void Gulls" cause they're like seagulls, annoying.
The ongoing joke in that extra emphasis on the S on Bonelab is funny. Twitter is a funny place with weird people
I can not agree more with you.
It just feels not finished.
YES SOMEONE ELSE FINALLY SAID THAT RADIO BUDDY ONLY APPEARS TWICE!
Thank you for making another video explaining your thoughts and feelings in depth!
This review hit me in my soul. So very correct with everything you say. I hope StressLevelZero finds their way again
I get your criticism HOWEVER I really enjoyed the whole game EXCEPT THE PILLARS! and it took me a while to figure out the crane in the lab too. I think and hope they will support this game for a long time with more mod support and more official levels etc. Boneworks got a bunch of extra content after launch and im sure this will too.
@Corporal Adrian Shepard of course you beat it fast, you're corporal Shepherd! The master of rope climbing!
@@jug0572 CANON
Both Boneworks and Bonelab are sandbox games at their core. Biggest difference is that Boneworks has a sandbox type campaign where you can just fuck around while Bonelab is just move from 1 door to another
this is THE BEST EXPLANATION of all videos. i have the exact same feeling about the game, AND THE PILLAR LEVEL i felt you. i got the same big and small avatars over and over again....
boneworks ran so bonelabs could be put in a wheelchair
The Heavy avatar is just a American version of a 40k space marine
I think a big reason for the price hike probably has to do with the fact that they had to make this entire game playable on thr Quest 2
I actually got bugged during the Pillar Climb too, but it was my left hand. I tried to force my way through the level but I was getting too frustrated from falling over and over again and not being able to grip with both hands, and in the end I had to quit. Trying the level again the following day, the bug was gone. I liked Bonelabs but man, I can't help but think of what could have been.
This is the most frustrated and infuriated I've seen JfJ with a game. That says something.
Watching him flail about during commentary on the pillar section was absolutely hilarious. I think i gained back a year of life from that.
So basically wait until it's like 10 dollars at most, got it
Go back to sleep and keep dreaming lol
10 dollars??? You have to be smoking
10 dollars is absolutely crazy but this game will definitely need a permanent price discount later down the line
I’m still holding out hope that someone can make a really cool ben 10 VR game down the line that puts bonelabs avatar thing to shame
HAH, I knew it reminded me of Ben 10. Now I’m just imaging what that would’ve been like. Probably a better concept.
Its still a good concept just not used yet to its fullest
Pillar climb was definitely the worst even during testing for the game and when it originally came to my company it was very different, no boids (official void bird name then), no body log (omnitrix) and the boid ball (yes official name of that ball then) didn’t move so you could easily stab. When the body log was integrated they also added the boid switching mechanic making that level 10 times more painful.
If anyone wants to ask more questions about this game 8 weeks before release feel free to ask them.
I feel like a major mechanic like body log should've been in the game more than 8 weeks from release.
@@doctoradventure413 it may have been in the works at some point later in development but only to my experience with the game pre launch on quest 2, it wasn’t implemented in the first week of testing. I believe it was week 2/3 that it was as well as half of the changes made to pilar climb
God the music in both games do be really good tho
Guys you don’t understand there’s no radio buddy because he knows what JFJ stands for and the devs couldn’t allow him to reveal it to everyone.
Holy shit J fuckin wiped his hands of this game. Played it, reviewed it, done.
They could've released this 2 years ago as a spinoff without the campaign and then made a dedicated sequel to Boneworks with an actual campaign
I had fun playing my game but I agree about the story, I really wanted to learn more about fantasy land and such but almost nothing was explained. This game felt like a $40 DLC more than an actual new game.
A lot was explained. Did you maybe miss some of the clipboards?
@@robertwyatt3912 yeah i read everything and did everything but still felt under whelmed, its like they made a filler episode for their game i think the next one is gonna be 10x better than bonelab and boneworks combined
@@robertwyatt3912 I probably did, not sure.
@@robertwyatt3912 you shouldn’t have the main story explained in CLIPBOARDS
@@jokey1348 why not?
i had the same right hand glitch in my playthrough as well, and it took me having to look up how to finish the level to even get through it because i didn't realize you had to shoot the void ball till it dies since it doesn't really give you much feedback if you shoot it.
Its not just you who had an issue with the right hand not working, i had it with my left on the moon level leaving me unable to grip the capsule, this made me tediously have to repeat the level over 4 times until i gave up and reset the game. I feel your pain dude.
I am saddened to say that, Yeah I agree. I do still find it very fun personally but all the points in the video were very fair and I think that bonelabs is definitely the most hyped up and underwhelming game I’ve ever played. Again, not to say I hate it because I really like it.
This is the most valid review I've seen of Bonelab
I did expect the campaign to be longer and for the game to be like 25 bucks but on the other hand they had Quest 2 in mind so it's not like they could've made a massive campaign or stuff like that. The game still gas updates in store so we'll just have to wait and see what happens at this point
That's the only time I'm sounding like a game journalist
well articulated, fair review. Typical top tier quality from the sock boy.
I actually grabbed and carried a void bird with me to smack my self with just to swap avatars on command
this is the best critique i've seen of the game
But unfortunately vr fans will ofcourse just shrug it off as blind hate, like they've done with every other critique
to quote a great philosopher of days gone by:"WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?"
I thought it was pretty clear that the "void birds" only forcibly change your avatar when they hit your ben 10 arm. I hated that section too. Huge slog. Once i figured out that I could hold my arm out and force a random avatar it got easier. Fuck trying to do parkour as short
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every complaint is valid, it's as if they designed the game to be modded and that's the whole game, which really sucks for the price, especially when the SDK to even mod cool shit isn't even in the game yet.
Thank god he didn't leave in his unhinged screaming during the Pillar
OMG J IS A BEN 10 FAN MY RESPECT HAS GONE HIGHER THAN I EVER THOUGHT POSSIBLE
Pillars would have been a perfectly fine tutorial if there was no random switching and if there was an ending that made sense
Bonelab feels like it’s more like a mod heaven not a main campaign
That hand always picking up gun thing happened to me too on my first go. I was beyond upset, closest I’ve come to putting a hole in my wall
I didn't really have an issue with pillar climb, but I can see how people would have a problem. The collision of the pillars felt a little shody, making them a bit hard to get a grip on them. Also, there's those midevil turrets that are almost impossible to kill unless your playing as tall or you're willing to waste all your ammo.
Hey,just as a note:SLZ is already taking these problems into account and theres a beta branch on steam that fixes nost of the issues that people have(not the story but the level design a bit and some other stuff i think)
I do think that SLZ will fix most of the issues with time,they seem like a studio that cares from what i"ve seen.
Now,i'm not saying that"you people can't complain now",the game should have had most of these problems fixed from the start,this was just to say"at least they dont plan on abandoning it anytime soon"
Yeah, I’ve talked with three of the SLZ team working on the issues, and they are really diving into the issues and trying to fix the problems they are going to be able to, I also think it’s poss that they are planning to add a dlc to this game which might help
@@weedsterdaweed2725 putting lipstick on a pig will not make me want to replay the campaign and it will not make it worth $40
@@natgarret Yea DLC is totally what the already overpriced sandbox needs lol
@@rawhide_kobayashi To be fair, they could add a long ass dlc due to how little space it takes up, just look at twd s&s
Gotta respect that he's just saying bonelabs instead of bonelab just to make those people that were going "Bonelab*" angry
Pillars made me so upset I had to give it up for a night.
Worst part is having the WHOLE LEVEL RELOAD if you die.
I think the new beta is removing the void birds changing avatars. (thank god)
i didn't experience a single one of these issues.
I got caught once in pillar. I turned into Heavy and fell into a small gap, effectively *softlocking* me. There were no fish around, I killed them all around that area, or they wouldn’t target me.
I agree with some of the stuff. But I do have to say that the mods for the game was the most hyped up part of the game by far. But the fact that the mods that were made by the community are still not in the game 23 days after the games release is actually kind of sad. I’m sure in the future we will see native mod support on the game, and all the creativity from the community blasting from that idle arcade machine in the corner of the BoneLab hub.
i forgive him now i am sorry socky man
I think the biggest problem is that boneworks was a really good format and if they made something that doubled down on the gunplay and more varied enemies, it would have been the perfect VR game.
Thats the problem, this COULD have been really fucking good. But it isnt and they have the gall to rely on mods.
the world would've been a happier place if pillar didn't have the goddamn void birds
Every glitch u got on the Pillars I got with the gun spawning in ur hand when u grip to right hand being completely useless but the gun glitch is fixed by going into the inventory system the the hand u glitch u have to reset ur game :/
I learned that to reload guns with heavy, you have to hold the gun by the barrel instead of the trigger. Making a cool reloads for pistols, but takes more time.
This new chivalry update is cool
I’d like to believe that this game is a continuation of boneworks but just a placeholder for the projects we saw in the original
It sucks because I think BoneLab is rad as hell, definitely a gateway into a next level of VR games with being able to share Marrow with the public. But it is very obvious that the campaign is a fraction of what it could be, which honestly I suspect is a consequence of being able to fit this damn thing on a Quest 2. Seeing the patch note wall in game makes me hopeful that there will be more campaign and mini game updates, but even if there isn't I still thought it was neat. Probably should cost the same as Boneworks though until they add more stuff.
WAIT! J IS A BEN 10 FAN!? LETS GOOOOOOO
the racing level song and new radio buddy were my favourite parts of bonelab
The cart is way easier to drive with other avatars, and a way to get around pvp is pick up the enemies and throw them, or head butt them… or you can go psycho and ram them into the wall
And for avatars… pretend you are REMTOELY CONTROLLING a big ass robot with your hands
Edit: pillar climb is WAY easier if you go through it fast enough, just pretend you are a speed runner when it loads up
HOW IS THE RADIO JAMS SO GOOOOOOOOOOOOD
bruhhhh not being able to use one hand on the pillar level happened to me and I was straight fuming hahaha, I feel your pain 100%
The mine cart ride kinda broke on me so hard that I kept teleporting outside the cart….or for any vehicle for that matter
If the game was 10, maybe 15 (at most) dollars than I'd be happy. Since bonelabS was disappointing, I revisited boneworks and realized that bonelabs actually has a superior physics engine (barring the jumping mechanics, which I doubt were intentional and I assume they will be fixed in a later patch) and that climbing and throwing things felt nicer actually in comparison. When ford climbed things, his model would push off of the surface you were trying to climb (almost making it feel unintentional that you were doing this.) In bonelabs, your player character does this thing where the model is suspended away from the surface by its feet, making your hands more like anchor points on a surface and making it much easier to climb. Throwing things has always been weird in vr games, at least in my experience with the oculus controller mechanics, but in bonelabs it felt relatively more consistent than its predecessor. It felt less janky, and I can appreciate it for that. For me, boneworks made up for its weak story because what you were doing was really fun and the environments you were in were pretty cool. The game had this sense of wonder to it. It made you curious as to what you were even doing, but that mysterious aspect made it feel like one of the most authentic gaming experiences I've ever had in a *long* while. The soundtrack made it so much better too, trying to fit into that "virtual" aesthetic. Bonelabs has a wonderful soundtrack, don't get me wrong, but it feels it would be more at place in a different atmosphere, one that bonelabs wasn't going for. Some of the tracks felt more like something I'd see in beat saber, and while they were cool and all they just didn't match the experience. I expect, with time, this game will be really good, but until they decide to implement an actual campaign/storyline (not before fixing its terrible level design already present,) it's not worth my $40. The avatar system was... off-putting. It doesn't make sense to me that the devs would implement a feature that conflicts so heavily with other key mechanics in the game. Little Big Planet 3, if you remember that game, had a similar system, but it was actually good because that mechanic was that installment's focus. The avatar system in bonelabs feels like it was just slapped in, and they designed the entire latter half of the game to teach people about it so they can play around with it using mods. This feels much more like an overexaggerated DLC than it does a proper sequel. All of these new features could be implemented in an update/DLC to boneworks, but now I'm sitting here writing this with a 40$ hole in my steam wallet.
I personally felt it really offputting some of the avatar models too. If not for cute fanservicey anime women and wack ass character design, it'd be better. I get the game in-story is like "in the virtual world, you can make yourself into anything" and all, but looking down as a dude and seeing a pair of tits is wild.
I feel the omnitrix comment a lot
Like how much cooler could it have been to twist a dial showing the silhouettes of the avatars and slapping it down to change
I knew somethin was up with Bonelabs when everyone praising the game was just posting their modded avatars and everyone critiquing it was actually playing it.
I got to the top of the pillar and I couldn't pull the ball apart. So you def weren't the only one who's grip just stopped working.
Yeah, Bonelab does a lot of experimenting and while it does many things right, it all so doubles down on everything that SHOULDN'T be done in VR.
These bones they don't work as good but it's good for labbing
Also is the video music from the moon stage?
You can do the campaign from the boars next to the avatar hub thing as soon as you get to the hub
Bro said it was rushed but was an underground projects for years, and still just a physics demo
My left hand stopped working multiple times in the story, making it physically impossible to reload and unlock capsules, it happened the most unlocking the avatars, the one part where I NEED to open capsules 😢
It’s so weird how to progress the story they have you play all the activities like sandbox and parkour…only to make you do them again for the avatars. It should’ve just been 1 avatar mission that had you switching between them for sections
i really like this format of video i just wanted to say