13 Nissan KA24E Options to Control Start Up Rattle

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  • @Hymnalysis
    @Hymnalysis 5 років тому +5

    I wanted to add my voice to the chorus of people who approve of and want people to get the self-ratcheting tensioner. It's fantastic. Thank you, Jim, for making these, making these videos, and making yourself available to answer questions during the installation.

    • @Mr1jim
      @Mr1jim  5 років тому +3

      Thank you for taking the time to add a comment.
      I replaced an aging 1986 Nissan pickup that had the Z24 engine in it, with my current 1997 Nissan D21 with the KA24E.
      I noticed right away the Z24 engine had much more low end power than the KA24E.
      Was disappointed with the KA24E, always seemed slow on take off up to about 2000rpms then engine would kick in with power.
      I asked Nissan mechanics about this, was told it was normal, that I would never get low rpm power out the KA24E that matched the Z24.
      Since I installed the ratchet tensioner the sluggish low end power is gone, I disproved what the Nissan mechanics had told me.
      Its now got strong even power through all rpms.
      Its got spunk like my old Z24 had.
      On another issue:
      A lot of KA24Es that have had head and or block milled are experiencing low power due the problem that milling causes.
      Milling these engines lowers the head by amount of material that was removed during milling process.
      This lowers the camshaft which ends up retarding the valve timing.
      Only way to bring the valve timing back in sync with crank shaft timing is to advance camshaft a couple of degrees.
      I am working on an adjustable camshaft sprocket to help these milled engines get their power back, so far it looks promising.
      Will be making a video on this if all works out to plan..

  • @jamesgunn402
    @jamesgunn402 21 день тому +1

    I took mine apart and actually changed the spring inside of the tensioner and it stopped the rattle in mine so far..

    • @jamesmartin5370
      @jamesmartin5370 21 день тому

      Good Deal, hope it continues to be rattle free for many more miles.

  • @chaseambrose4677
    @chaseambrose4677 4 роки тому +1

    Man your video is extremely helpful. Not sure who the gentleman is behind the camera, but your voice reminds me so much of James Taylor.

  • @nathanialhoppens8489
    @nathanialhoppens8489 2 роки тому +1

    I don't have noise on start up but getting something on deceleration I've checked the chain and it's got a lot of slack in it thinking of going this route you've videos help a lot

    • @jamesmartin5370
      @jamesmartin5370 2 роки тому

      Several years ago I was having a rattle/ping noise at down shift deceleration.
      Sound was high pitched, almost like drive line noise, checked U-joints, couldn't figure it out for months.
      Finally I was able to get it make the noise while sitting in driveway.
      Ended up coming from the inside of exhaust pipe just in front of catalytic converter, something loose bouncing around in there at deceleration, I left it and it went away.
      There is a heat shield on exhaust manifold, check the fasteners to it, they seem to work themselves loose sometimes, if its loose it will rattle at deceleration.

  • @jessilooney2444
    @jessilooney2444 6 років тому +6

    hey were can i get the adjustable tensioner not the racheting one but the one with shims

  • @ElGalleroluchon
    @ElGalleroluchon 11 місяців тому

    Where do you find the self adjust tensioner?

  • @RRan-dk7ct
    @RRan-dk7ct 7 років тому +3

    my 1992 d21 is a loud truck when i first crank it...sure could use the racket version
    thanks for your time.

    • @Mr1jim
      @Mr1jim  7 років тому +1

      Contact me at jamesmart55@hotmail and I will send you some information to look at.

  • @СергейМасленников-и8в

    Здравствуйте благодарю вас за ваши видео, очень понятно !!
    Хотелось бы узнать номер детали с механическим храповиком, который последний в видео?! Подскажите пожалуйста

  • @Logjam5
    @Logjam5 7 років тому +6

    Excellent! New videos. Just sent you an email regarding one of your kits. Like to see you do series of a complete rebuild of on one of these motors! That would be great.

    • @teamhotpasta
      @teamhotpasta 6 років тому +2

      I recently purchased and installed the ratchet tensioner. Engine is sounding healthy again. Thanks for the videos

  • @cesarcolombani9500
    @cesarcolombani9500 2 роки тому +1

    Where do I buy the tensioner spacer and adjusting piston spacer for 1997 Nissan hardbody?

    • @jamesmartin5370
      @jamesmartin5370 2 роки тому

      To purchase parts see www.martin-industries.net/

  • @tnamen1307
    @tnamen1307 5 років тому +3

    Sir, I heard similar sounds on starting, and the frequency of the knocking sounds is high as I revs the rpm high. It's directly proportional to the rpm. Also, still at idle the knocking sound still exists. How can I confirm without opening the engine cover? Thanks.

    • @jamesmartin5370
      @jamesmartin5370 5 років тому +2

      Thang,
      Several options you can trouble shoot before opening the engine cover.
      To eliminate possibilities of the noise being on outside of engine.
      Remove all fan belts and start engine and see if noise is gone, or you could also use a hose up to one ear or a mechanics stethoscope and probe around the outside of engine.
      Air trapped in power steering pump can cause cavitation noise, alternator bearing, powersterring pump bearing, idler bearing, water pump bearing can all make similar sounds so first eliminate these then move forward from there.

    • @tnamen1307
      @tnamen1307 5 років тому

      @@jamesmartin5370 Also, the rpm drops to 650 recently as against the normal 850 to 900, and with All TB unit, iscv cleaned, coil pack etc all ok, the rpm still at 650 and little engine vibration too. However, when I revs to 850, no vibration at all. And, lastly, the engine heats up very soon but no warning signals from instrument cluster. Visit service centre, and scanned, but no codes at all. All ok. Actually, I am trying to fix this low rpm however, still not get fixed. Please kindly help. Thanks.

    • @hehunches
      @hehunches 3 роки тому +1

      @@tnamen1307 low rpm shudder is common on these my opinion is the emissions systems is dragging the idle down too low for smooth operation, good luck getting your rpm up, try slight timing adjustment

  • @hehunches
    @hehunches 3 роки тому +1

    (1:32) shim piston kit solution

  • @badger_actual8249
    @badger_actual8249 2 роки тому +1

    We're can I get a tensioner spacer?

    • @jamesmartin5370
      @jamesmartin5370 2 роки тому +1

      Those were superseded with the adjustable piston which can be found at: www.martin-industries.net/
      Adjustable piston is a manual adjustment of excess chain slack, given time future adjustments may be needed by adding another shim to it.
      For self adjustment of excess chain slack use the self adjusting ratchet tensioner.

    • @badger_actual8249
      @badger_actual8249 2 роки тому +1

      @@jamesmartin5370 ok I can order right from the sight?

    • @jamesmartin5370
      @jamesmartin5370 2 роки тому

      @@badger_actual8249 Yes, if order is received early in the day, usually can ship same day as ordered.

  • @corolfo
    @corolfo 6 років тому +3

    Will the ratchet tensioner work for the ka24de?

    • @Mr1jim
      @Mr1jim  6 років тому +3

      No, KA24E and KA24DE tensioners have different configurations and bolt holes are spaced differently.
      I am no longer fabricating the above self adjusting ratchet tensioners, so at the moment only options to manually adjust the excess chain slack is the tensioner spacer and adjustable piston.

    • @corolfo
      @corolfo 6 років тому +1

      Mr1jim oh ok thanks for the reply

    • @Mr1jim
      @Mr1jim  6 років тому +1

      Just keep in mind when trouble shooting chain noise in a KA24DE, there are two chains so there are two possible sources of chain rattle.

  • @PawnshopmikeATL
    @PawnshopmikeATL 4 роки тому +2

    Seems like the spacer is the way to go!!!!! ..... I still feel like a spring loaded tensioner would be the way to go!!!

    • @jamesmartin5370
      @jamesmartin5370 4 роки тому

      Best item has been the self adjusting ratchet tensioner, it self adjusts as needed

    • @proudamerican6763
      @proudamerican6763 3 роки тому

      @@jamesmartin5370 works great in my 96 nissan xe clubcab. ratchet tensioner purchased over a year ago.
      no more rattle,,
      also replaced plastic guides, and removed oil pan to get broken plastic guides out.
      new chain and gears also installed at the same time.
      truck runs, and sounds new. thanks mr jim!!!

    • @jamesmartin5370
      @jamesmartin5370 3 роки тому

      @@proudamerican6763 Thanks,
      Everyone who has installed these self-adjusting ratchet tensioners are experiencing an increase of engine performance just as you describe.

    • @proudamerican6763
      @proudamerican6763 3 роки тому

      @@jamesmartin5370 I have a problem with my air conditioning belt squealing I think the belts are listed wrong in the book, the alternator belt and the AC belt are reversed oh, do you have any insight on that?, because the air conditioning belt keeps squealing no matter how much they tighten it, and it only happened after it was replaced with a new belt, before that it never squeal

    • @jamesmartin5370
      @jamesmartin5370 3 роки тому

      @@proudamerican6763 1st check pulley alignment.
      I have seen belts squeal only to find one of the pulleys is off-set from all the others.
      Depending on what they removed to replace the belt, could be something as simple as leaving out a spacer or shim in one of the assembles that also is connected to the belt.

  • @gabrielgil6430
    @gabrielgil6430 7 років тому +1

    hi I have a 2011 1.6 nissan versa with start up problem.
    the parts the you show on the video work on this car.?

    • @jamesmartin5370
      @jamesmartin5370 7 років тому

      If it uses the BECK/ARNLEY 024-1892 and the piston diameter of the tensioner piston is .570", Then Yes the Tensioner Spacer will fit your tensioner.
      But I would caution if your engine has a Variable Timing Sprocket mounted on it because a chain that is too snug will not let the Variable Timing Sprocket operate correctly.
      If you engine has a Variable Timing Sprocket, your problem may be the Variable Sprocket malfunctioning or
      The BECK/ARNLEY 024-1892 tensioner uses a ratchet style piston and its possible the teeth are damaged on the ratchet system. You can email me at jamesmart55@hotmail.com to further discuss the possibility of using this part on your engine.

  • @fernandocortes7832
    @fernandocortes7832 4 роки тому +1

    How can I purchase one of these items? Help please

    • @jamesmartin5370
      @jamesmartin5370 4 роки тому

      The can be found at: www.martin-industries.net/

  • @ogudao.fredrick8738
    @ogudao.fredrick8738 7 років тому +1

    I have same problem of first crank in the morning.I replaced a new tensioner but the problem still there,now i bought a spring tensioner it started well and I come to realize after one week it started again.What could be the problem.now in the morning it has a rattling sound after a few seconds it goes silent.imediatly when you switched it off and start, it's okay running smoothly.please help

    • @Mr1jim
      @Mr1jim  7 років тому

      Email me at jamesmart55@hotmail.com and I will send you some information to look over.

    • @luiscortez1624
      @luiscortez1624 7 років тому

      Mr1jim hello jim i got the same problem i got a nissan frontier 04 2.4l manual transmision and i got the same rattle noise can you help me out

    • @luiscortez1624
      @luiscortez1624 7 років тому

      how i can get this part from you mail me at pancho.lc48@gmail.com please help me

    • @Mr1jim
      @Mr1jim  7 років тому +1

      Yes,
      The KA24DE can have upper and lower chain noise, you will need to trouble shoot and find out which chain is making the noise , the primary hydraulic tensioner is of the same design as the KA24E, I have the Tensioner Spacer and the adjustable piston that can be used to adjust any excess slack out of the lower chain. For the upper chains new plastic shoes can be installed if the old ones are worn. The shoes on these wear fast from the chain so you should inspect the shoes and go from there.
      Send me an email at jamesmart55@hotmail.com and I will send you some information you can look at.

  • @skezus
    @skezus 7 років тому +1

    this is brillant!

    • @Mr1jim
      @Mr1jim  7 років тому

      Thanks,
      If you have excess chain slack and or start up rattle, these will allow you to adjust the chain.
      Jim

  • @danielhogan5607
    @danielhogan5607 7 років тому +1

    So I need to email you?

    • @Mr1jim
      @Mr1jim  7 років тому

      Yes that works ok, I can send you some information to look over. my email is jamesmart55@hotmail.com

  • @jairoherrera5487
    @jairoherrera5487 7 років тому +1

    en español plis!

    • @Mr1jim
      @Mr1jim  7 років тому +2

      Lo siento.
      Uso el traductor en línea de inglés a español.
      Pero yo no hablo español.
      Si tiene preguntas, haré lo que pueda con el traductor en línea.

    • @randylahey5005
      @randylahey5005 5 років тому

      Yo puedo hablo español si necesitas ayuda hasmelo saber