I don't think Eve Arden was ever under rated. She was always in demand. She acted in over 65 films and starred in three television series including the Eve Arden Show. She also acted in various episodes of 50 or so other TV shows.
@@jackanthony976 No doubt. She had a great long career. I just meant, she's not remembered as much as the leading ladies of the day......but boy she made a difference in every film she was in..... we love her in our household. If she's in the movie, we are watching.
I saw Eve Arden in a play in Sullivan, Illinois. Circa 1975. Absolutely dazzling & even though the venue was far beneath her, she gave a Broadway performance.
@@pinkdolly I'm sorry I misunderstood. I don't know how a mother could not love and care about her kids. But not all people are good. So I guess I do know.
The cigarette companies paid movie studios to feature their products. The stronger your star power, the better it was for cigarette companies. Young people seeing actors like Joan Crawford and Bette Davis smoking on screen were more inclined to take up the habit themselves and this drove up massive sales for cigarette brands. Even TV actors would endorse certain cigarette brands during commercial breaks.
EVE looked great in that cool vintage.jacket.....in COVER GIRL she wore the most spectacular clothes/hats......somehow a movie is THAT MUCH better when shes in it...HUZZAHS FOR SUPPORTING ACTORS....they make the film🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌠
Crawford was so damn gorgeous at this time, it's frankly distracting at times. I just find myself just staring at her. Now imagine seeing that gorgeous face on a giant movie screen back in the 40s. Wow, you'd be practically hypnotized. Needless to say, her face was made for the big screen. 😍😍😍
Veda & Monte were both HORRIBLE for the terrible way that they.betrayed Mildred, yet she still tried her best to save atrocious & rotten Veda!! Veda got what she deserved in the end-PRISON!! 🔫 👗
@@p994able Hattie McDaniel played the maid in Gone with the Wind and many other similar roles. Believe me, the blatant racism and low wages of those times were not lost on her. She was a very intelligent woman. She was once quoted as saying "I'd rather make $700 a week playing a maid in movies, than making $7 a week being a maid". She won an Oscar for that role, but wasn't even allowed to sit at the same table as her co-stars, much to the dismay of Clark Gable, Vivien Leigh, and Olivia de Haviland. If it weren't for producer David O. Selznick, she wouldn't have even been allowed to attend the ceremony at all because the venue where it was being held had a strict "no blacks" policy. Selznick and many of the other cast members refused to attend the ceremony unless their beloved co-star was also allowed to attend. Considering Gone with the Wind was one of the highest grossing films of that year (1939) and Hattie McDaniel was one of the recipients of the award, this would have been a huge loss for the venue, so the manager decided to make an exception for Hattie -- albeit, he was very reluctant about it. She was a gracious, elegant, and very talented woman. I just wish Hollywood gave her and other black actors like her the respect they all deserved.
@@tinagiordanella3212 I'm aware that Hattie played the SLAVE. And won an Oscar even though they wouldn't let her come in until Clark Gable insisted that they do so. The girl right here in this movie was also another slave. While Melanie was in labor, she was the younger slave girl panicking until Scarlett slapped her. I like that movie, but even in that, they had this girl acting as if something was wrong with her brain and she didn't know better.
@@tinagiordanella3212 And yes. That was nice what they did. But I agree with you too that black stars never fully got the credit they deserved. They drained an entire pool because Dorothy Dandridge put her toe in it. Marilyn Monroe insisted that Ella Fitzgerald be let into the nightclub she wasn't allowed in, and thanks to Marilyn, they made an "exception" for her. Yes these were accomplishments for the times. And I stand for the white people who stood for these black stars. But it doesn't take away from the fact that these black stars were just that to most of society: An "exception". "Okay, we'll let them in for you. But this ONE time and after that, they can go where they belong." That's what an exception is.
@@p994able Yes, she was also in "Gone With The Wind." Butterfly McQueen, the maid with that sweet, distinct voice. She played Prissy, the maid that Scarlett O'Hara slapped for "knowing nothing 'bout birthin' babies." Fun fact: She also played alongside Joan Crawford in "The Women" as a sales assistant.
The maid in the beginning looks like the little slaved girl in gone with the wind. Is it possible that's the same actress? She also sounds the same voice...
+Ms you do realise we are talking about a movie right? Maid and slave are the rôles this actress did play in MOVIES. Please take your pills because you are writting crazy!
@@zaza_9424 How about you stop delfecting & realize that Black actresses have names??? You got caught & instead of apologizing & correcting it, you did what you people usually do and made excuses. So not only is your grammar atrocious, but it seems you were raised by wolves. The actress has a name...and the name is NOT "slaved girl or maid." And if your uncIe wasn't also your father, you'd be able to understand that.
In my opinion, Joan Crawford is the greatest movie star in history. Unfortunately, she did not age well - and this scene with its smokes and drinks - shows one of the reasons why.
Lot of old Hollywood types didn't. Be it plastic surgery or limited knowledge of just how bad all those vices can do to a person. But nowadays we seem to be going in the other direction. Actors/actresses trying too hard to look and act 21 instead of aging gracefully and maturely.
I really think Mildred made a correct decision on disowning Veda because she’s spoiled rotten and if I was her I won’t put up with a bratty teenaged woman.
I marvel at all the comments concerned about the smoking habits of the 1940’s, but not a mention about any of the ol’ fashion racism abundant in this clip.
Yup Lotti's been working with her for years in her own home and looked after her children but she gets to sweep the front stoop, later she gets to be the house servant for the mansion... so Mildred pats her on the shoulder and speaks with her for 30 seconds ignoring the fact that she'd know what Vida has been up to...
Mildred Pierce was tough as nails. She may have believed she wanted a different daughter but she made Vida exactly in her image. Haughty and demanding, but without the talent and hard drive of her mother. So in the end when Vida could not have what she wanted, she snapped and destroyed Monty. Tale of all time. Jealousy and greed. With catastrophic consequences. A movie for the ages. Joan Crawford made that happen. Along with a stellar cast and crew. Lotti was a bit piece in Mildred’s blazing trail to the top. She was sweet and showed the kinder side of humanity. Great part and a great actor.
I wouldn't have recognized Eve Arden's face (I'm used to seeing her much older), but her voice is unmistakeable.
Love Joan the Actress. But in this scene, EVE ARDEN shines! Eve was so under rated. One the best ever!
@ , she is probably only known as Principal McGee in Grease.
I don't think Eve Arden was ever under rated. She was always in demand. She acted in over 65 films and starred in three television series including the Eve Arden Show. She also acted in various episodes of 50 or so other TV shows.
@@jackanthony976 No doubt. She had a great long career. I just meant, she's not remembered as much as the leading ladies of the day......but boy she made a difference in every film she was in..... we love her in our household. If she's in the movie, we are watching.
I saw Eve Arden in a play in Sullivan, Illinois. Circa 1975. Absolutely dazzling & even though the venue was far beneath her, she gave a Broadway performance.
@@ericwalters5382 Wow! What was the play?
I wish I had a mother that cared this much.
diva1675 I’m sure you do, but you probably don’t realize that you really would end up like Veda, even if you weren’t a brat about it
@@pinkdolly Not everyone has a mother who cares.
Susan Ryan I meant that I’m sure she does wish she had a mother like this
@@pinkdolly I'm sorry I misunderstood. I don't know how a mother could not love and care about her kids. But not all people are good. So I guess I do know.
Eve Arden always played the wise cracking friend
Years later Ida would become principal of Rydell High
I ADORE Ida. Eve Arden steals this scene without very much effort at all.
"They eat their young" LOL.
This is what makes Mildred Pierce great.
She protec
she attac
But most importantly...
She want her daughter bac
Joan Crawford also known as shoulder pad queen
"Personally, Veda's convinced me that alligators have the right idea...they eat their young."
And so do meter maids.
RaymondHng Huh? Reference?
RaymondHng I love that line.
You'll understand after your car has been ticketed many times by meter maids.
what does she mean by the alligator line?
They smoked like chimneys in Old Hollywood.
Jasmine Crawford , that's probably why they died at a younger age.
@@4nlover635 And stayed SO thin. That and all the pills they were given to suppress their appetite.
The cigarette companies paid movie studios to feature their products. The stronger your star power, the better it was for cigarette companies. Young people seeing actors like Joan Crawford and Bette Davis smoking on screen were more inclined to take up the habit themselves and this drove up massive sales for cigarette brands. Even TV actors would endorse certain cigarette brands during commercial breaks.
@@tinagiordanella3212 Lucy and Desi
@@tinagiordanella3212 Lucy and Desi-Phillip Morris.
Mildred, listen to Ida - forget about cheap, horrible Veda.
Great supporting cast for Joan makes this movie a classic.
EVE looked great in that cool vintage.jacket.....in COVER GIRL she wore the most spectacular clothes/hats......somehow a movie is THAT MUCH better when shes in it...HUZZAHS FOR SUPPORTING ACTORS....they make the film🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌠
Joan was so good looking!
She was BEAUTIFUL.
She didn't age well at all though. As she got older she looked more and more demonic.
@@cashdarealmoney1128ridiculous
They smoke with class
I like Eves blouse.
And I am sure it was silk.
1:21: "Drink"? " Yeah! Bourbon."
"Do you still like it straight up?"
Crawford was so damn gorgeous at this time, it's frankly distracting at times. I just find myself just staring at her. Now imagine seeing that gorgeous face on a giant movie screen back in the 40s. Wow, you'd be practically hypnotized. Needless to say, her face was made for the big screen. 😍😍😍
Joan Crawford was so beautiful in this movie
Their friendship was awesome
Veda & Monte were both HORRIBLE for the terrible way that they.betrayed Mildred, yet she still tried her best to save atrocious & rotten Veda!! Veda got what she deserved in the end-PRISON!! 🔫 👗
The clip should've been played to the end of the scene where they toast men.
"To the men we have loved!!"
Then Ida says, "Stinkers"!! Ha ha!
Is that the black girl from Gone With the Wind?
Yup she played the troubled slave. Wish she would've gotten different roles but you know how Hollywood treated African Americans smh.
@@p994able Hattie McDaniel played the maid in Gone with the Wind and many other similar roles. Believe me, the blatant racism and low wages of those times were not lost on her. She was a very intelligent woman. She was once quoted as saying "I'd rather make $700 a week playing a maid in movies, than making $7 a week being a maid". She won an Oscar for that role, but wasn't even allowed to sit at the same table as her co-stars, much to the dismay of Clark Gable, Vivien Leigh, and Olivia de Haviland. If it weren't for producer David O. Selznick, she wouldn't have even been allowed to attend the ceremony at all because the venue where it was being held had a strict "no blacks" policy. Selznick and many of the other cast members refused to attend the ceremony unless their beloved co-star was also allowed to attend. Considering Gone with the Wind was one of the highest grossing films of that year (1939) and Hattie McDaniel was one of the recipients of the award, this would have been a huge loss for the venue, so the manager decided to make an exception for Hattie -- albeit, he was very reluctant about it. She was a gracious, elegant, and very talented woman. I just wish Hollywood gave her and other black actors like her the respect they all deserved.
@@tinagiordanella3212 I'm aware that Hattie played the SLAVE. And won an Oscar even though they wouldn't let her come in until Clark Gable insisted that they do so. The girl right here in this movie was also another slave. While Melanie was in labor, she was the younger slave girl panicking until Scarlett slapped her. I like that movie, but even in that, they had this girl acting as if something was wrong with her brain and she didn't know better.
@@tinagiordanella3212 And yes. That was nice what they did. But I agree with you too that black stars never fully got the credit they deserved. They drained an entire pool because Dorothy Dandridge put her toe in it. Marilyn Monroe insisted that Ella Fitzgerald be let into the nightclub she wasn't allowed in, and thanks to Marilyn, they made an "exception" for her. Yes these were accomplishments for the times. And I stand for the white people who stood for these black stars. But it doesn't take away from the fact that these black stars were just that to most of society: An "exception". "Okay, we'll let them in for you. But this ONE time and after that, they can go where they belong." That's what an exception is.
@@p994able Yes, she was also in "Gone With The Wind." Butterfly McQueen, the maid with that sweet, distinct voice. She played Prissy, the maid that Scarlett O'Hara slapped for "knowing nothing 'bout birthin' babies." Fun fact: She also played alongside Joan Crawford in "The Women" as a sales assistant.
Love the smoking, drinking and shoulder pads! 😂
The maid in the beginning looks like the little slaved girl in gone with the wind. Is it possible that's the same actress? She also sounds the same voice...
butterfly mcqueen :)
How about calling her a woman & not a maid or "slaved" girl??? Show some respect to Black women.
+Ms you do realise we are talking about a movie right? Maid and slave are the rôles this actress did play in MOVIES. Please take your pills because you are writting crazy!
@@zaza_9424 How about you stop delfecting & realize that Black actresses have names??? You got caught & instead of apologizing & correcting it, you did what you people usually do and made excuses. So not only is your grammar atrocious, but it seems you were raised by wolves. The actress has a name...and the name is NOT "slaved girl or maid." And if your uncIe wasn't also your father, you'd be able to understand that.
@@zaza_9424 Also, there is no such thing as a "slaved girl." Please learn proper English before you make RAClST statements. Cow
In my opinion, Joan Crawford is the greatest movie star in history. Unfortunately, she did not age well - and this scene with its smokes and drinks - shows one of the reasons why.
True
Lot of old Hollywood types didn't. Be it plastic surgery or limited knowledge of just how bad all those vices can do to a person. But nowadays we seem to be going in the other direction. Actors/actresses trying too hard to look and act 21 instead of aging gracefully and maturely.
Joan was definitely a heavy smoker and drinker, both of which aged her looks. Nobody knew better back then
Mrs Beidermeier killed Monty.
I wanna make a gif out of this,.... I tried searching for an app to convert video links to gif, but no luck. 😔
I really think Mildred made a correct decision on disowning Veda because she’s spoiled rotten and if I was her I won’t put up with a bratty teenaged woman.
Smoking is gross 😝
yes, vape away
I marvel at all the comments concerned about the smoking habits of the 1940’s, but not a mention about any of the ol’ fashion racism abundant in this clip.
Yup Lotti's been working with her for years in her own home and looked after her children but she gets to sweep the front stoop, later she gets to be the house servant for the mansion... so Mildred pats her on the shoulder and speaks with her for 30 seconds ignoring the fact that she'd know what Vida has been up to...
So glad you mentioned that I was thinking the exact same thing.
Mildred Pierce was tough as nails. She may have believed she wanted a different daughter but she made Vida exactly in her image. Haughty and demanding, but without the talent and hard drive of her mother. So in the end when Vida could not have what she wanted, she snapped and destroyed Monty. Tale of all time. Jealousy and greed. With catastrophic consequences. A movie for the ages. Joan Crawford made that happen. Along with a stellar cast and crew. Lotti was a bit piece in Mildred’s blazing trail to the top. She was sweet and showed the kinder side of humanity. Great part and a great actor.
biggest mistake...she shouldve abandoned heR
TERRIFFIC MOVIE, TERRIFFIC ACTRESSES.
It’s so Mexican!!! WTF
Haha, not sure why but I chuckled at that line!