It’s a shame that TH is not invited to more car press launches. My guess is that their honest, unbiased reviews may seem threatening to many manufacturers. Keep up the high integrity, guys!
They get invited to everything. Producing videos at their scale is long and requires a full logistic plan that doesn't work with the tight timeframe of product launches. I personally started turning some down simply because it's very time consuming. Carmakers also tend to control the environment at those events.
I love them but long story short: they don’t do it because they can’t get the access to do what they want. That’s because they don’t do the numbers of other people. What that says about the general populous is for you to decide.
'Make a 9111 Carrera with a manual transmission and naturally aspirated engine at around $100K ... to make it "available" to the masses' - Thomas Holland 2024
I love these guys of course, but yeah that is huge proof that they live in a very different world, and a very different tax bracket from many of their viewers. I might be able to afford a 25 year old Porsche lol
There's room for another person in it, they can have a guest. I wonder if I can interview to be a guest? So you think they can try casting me on that couch to see if there's good chemistry between us all? ;)
@@tlevans62 every upper-middle class wannabe 4WD Explorer buys one. There are literally thousands on Aussie roads. Toyota is definitely making a killing
It was just confirmed that the new Dodge Charger Daytona will also come with the 3.0 liter Hurricane 6-cylinder that's in the Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer L. That's a very powerful engine considering it makes 510 horsepower in the two Wagoneer L models. It may not be a V8, but it's better than having no form of internal combustion engine. I'm also excited about the Mustang GTD, and whatever the next C8 variant is.
My wife saw the M5 wagon render and said if that makes it to our shores we are selling both our Jeep Rubis and getting one of them. Happy wife, happy life right 😂
Occasionally I have to comment and say “THANK YOU”! You are a great duo, providing a humorous and articulate presentation with a production quality that is top notch. I subscribe to many channels, but TH and TH Extra are two of three on my notification list. I look forward to your next show!
It feels like fewer and fewer cars are going to be interesting to car enthusiasts every year. There’s nothing on this list that’s affordable to the average income.
😂 I have actually resigned myself from drooling over expensive cars and I think that driving something more sensible is actually better. I mean just look around yourself and see what kind of people drive around in these beast type of cars and how they behave in traffic. I ain’t want to be part of that anymore. At least where I live if someone drives something expensive it’s almost surely a jerk or narcissist behind the wheel cutting me off.
That kind of easy, spontaneous banter is often tried and rarely achieved by mediocre breakfast DJs but it comes so naturally to these two. Two mates, just plopped on the couch with a laptop, wagon off together.
As someone who works first hand on the Multimatic vehicles you mentioned. I am excited to see the recognition of the hard work we put into our work. Thank you,
Simulated gears on an EV could be useful, and basically determine how sensitive the throttle response is, and that might affect energy output in a way that is more economical to drive in a lower response, and less in a more powerful one.
That Ioniq 5 N looks surprisingly cool even though I’m not a fan of EVs. Kind of wish they make a gas or hybrid version of it. Would be an epic hot hatch.
Unfortunately it's not really a hot hatch in dimensions. The proportions are so good that it's impossible to tell on pictures but it's really big in real life. It's more a compact SUV than a hatchback really, the seating position for instance is surprisingly high.
It's bigger than it looks and a lot of the things about it wouldn't likely work in a non-EV. I love it, but it's just too expensive and seems built for the track, not a normal commute or driving long distance. I think EVs are great for some people and terrible for others based on their driving needs.
With motorcar prices continuing their current trajectory… I’m excited to see what’s going to happen with the ultra-luxury sedans. Thanks for the video.
good news on the Emira, USA CARB is now finished. it should be sellable in the next few weeks, month tops. if you are in a non-carb state your emira might already be sitting at the Lotus dealer you ordered from
1. Tesla Cyber Truck 2. Mercedes-AMG GT Coupe 3. Hyundai IONIC 5 N 4. Multimatic Ford Mustang 5. Porsche 911 992.2 6. Porsche 911 Carrera Naturally Aspirated 7. Porsche Boxter & Cayman EV 8. Toyota Land Cruiser 9. Aston Martin Valhalla 10. Chevy Corvette Zora 11. Doge Daytona SRT Charger 12. BMW M5
The two of you are fantastic. Love your way of doing these videos. Keep it up, and by the way, the car manufacturers should see and appreciate your super fun and exciting way of doing car reviews, and invite you to these premieres/presentations of their new models. Thank YOU 👍👍👍
This is why I'm a huge fan of miata. None of the cars on this list is affordable. Miata on the other hand? Super affordable, and tons of aftermarket parts. Thanks for the great video by the way! :)
@4:56 a big heavy electric Eevee? That’s a Jolteon Also I wonder if, because it’s an EV, you can bypass the issue via software and get the rear wheel drive mode with the paddles
first of all, the comment about the Atlantis, doing drug test, was hilarious! Secondly, us Dodge guys have been screaming that this is not a very good idea for the past two years now! There’s no such thing as an electric muscle car, we don’t want electric cars, but Stellantis is trying to force it on us anyway. They’re just gonna have to learn the hard way.🤷🏾♂️
If you guys don't make a TH podcast, at the very least you should do an episode on The Carmudgeon Show with Cammisa and Tam-Scott if you're ever in the bay area
I'm half convinced that dodge's backup plan for the new charger is to just have people buy it as an upgraded car to the old challenger and make it super easy to engine swap from the V6 variant, since they know everyone is gonna do it anyways
I'm personally very excited to see what you both think of the Ioniq 5N. I won't be getting it as it will be too expensive and not very practical for my needs, but would love to get to drive it on a track if it lives up to Hyundai's expectations.
I haven't done a ton of research in the cases regarding the battery replacement for the Ioniq 5s, but I would hope if the damage was really not that significant that they can do a recall to stop that from happening as that feels like a major defect. I also wouldn't be surprised if there was some propaganda going on with these stories, but time will tell. I will admit that Teslas, and likely other EVs that don't know anything to prevent this, do seem to be getting totalled from rear fender benders due to the damage to the battery where in nearly all cases the driver, nor the self driving software, couldn't do anything about it. They need to treat that battery like the passengers in the car where everything imaginable should be done to protect it in collisions and raise the price of them if that's expensive to do. I'd rather pay more once then gamble on the cost of my insurance premiums every year.
@@lanceareadbhar the Ioniq 60K battery replacements was due to the terrible dealerships in the US, apparently the company intervened and now they have to be contacted for battery issues.
I SAW THE CYBERTRUCK on the road a couple of weeks back. I live in Texas and I was getting some In-and-Out(GASP) and I was driving on the service road and saw the Cybertruck drive on the Highway. I had to take a double-take because I couldn't believe my eyes of what I saw. It's definitely getting close to production.
Base 911 with NA boxer 6, spot on. You guys are really great with valuable opinions but not in script. Same with Jason and cost a lot energy to dig it out, avoiding too much controversy I guess, but Jeremy is still my favorite just like Amg black series.
I feel like it’s the episode of the office when they gave creed identical pictures and ask him to mark the 11 differences 😂. Cybertruck prototype and release are pretty much identical
Hey Thomas. The ioniq5 N can’t do manual mode while also in drift mode because you can’t “simulate” gear ratios to multiply the power at lower speeds. Such as one would need to - drop 2 gears and power out the corner and up shift on the straight. Because the Ioniq 5 only has one gear. It can only simulate shifts by simply cutting power.
Imo Stelantis/chrisler/Dodge should come out with a version of the new electric Charger by keeping the exact same body but putting a hellcat in it. That would sell like hotcakes. And if they don’t do it someone like Rich Rebuilds will do it.
All will be interesting as I'm curious about them. It would be great if for a "throwback" episode, you got a hold of a Porsche 928 or 935. Or if ever possible a Ferrari 288 GTO
Ik its only me but i enjoy the extra channel more than the main because i just like to hear you guys talk about cars and the long videos here are the best.
You guys should have a Podcast! You guys are so interesting! And I agree with - you guys really need to get invited to more press launches, you are defiantly up there when it comes to reviewing cars!
And hard pass for an EV Boxster.... the Boxster is brilliant because it's LIGHT! Has anyone ever heard a Boxster (or Cayman) owner say that they love their car but would love it more if it weighed 4000lbs? Me neither....
Cable and Satellite wasn't that common in the UK. Plenty of people's parents didn't pay for it but DBZ was huge and on Toonami on Cartoon Network. I remember some people would record it on VHS if they still had it to share with friends.
Looking forward to a good old fashioned TH super wagon-off. Speed and grip are critical elements but ultimately if it crescendos to a satisfying finish then everyone can sleep well.
It’s a shame that TH is not invited to more car press launches. My guess is that their honest, unbiased reviews may seem threatening to many manufacturers. Keep up the high integrity, guys!
On the smoking tire podcast they said they turn down a lot of them because it doesn’t work with their format
They get invited to everything. Producing videos at their scale is long and requires a full logistic plan that doesn't work with the tight timeframe of product launches. I personally started turning some down simply because it's very time consuming. Carmakers also tend to control the environment at those events.
Doug DeMuro has an interesting perspective on that as well.
I love them but long story short: they don’t do it because they can’t get the access to do what they want. That’s because they don’t do the numbers of other people. What that says about the general populous is for you to decide.
U need ppl like that in life tho. That’ll keep it real and ultimately help you improve.
'Make a 9111 Carrera with a manual transmission and naturally aspirated engine at around $100K ... to make it "available" to the masses' - Thomas Holland 2024
"Hahahaha....no." -Porsche
Isn’t that the cayman gts 4.0?
the channel must be doing good
Also, go back to manual 6-speed short geared box and loose the current unusable abomination. Just sayin'...
I love these guys of course, but yeah that is huge proof that they live in a very different world, and a very different tax bracket from many of their viewers. I might be able to afford a 25 year old Porsche lol
ETH should just be called Throttle Couch
There's room for another person in it, they can have a guest. I wonder if I can interview to be a guest? So you think they can try casting me on that couch to see if there's good chemistry between us all? ;)
Throttle Shed*
Carston. @@deansmits006
yes.
Throttle Home
The 70 series Land Cruiser started in 1984 and has continued in production ever since and can still be bought in Australia.
In the Middle East as well
Same is South Africa
And it's ridiculously expensive for what it is.. Toyota makes a killing on those things.
You mean the rolling house deposits
@@tlevans62 every upper-middle class wannabe 4WD Explorer buys one. There are literally thousands on Aussie roads. Toyota is definitely making a killing
Throttle House's 2023 was fantastic, looking forward to a phenomenal 2024. You guys know how to deliver!
It was just confirmed that the new Dodge Charger Daytona will also come with the 3.0 liter Hurricane 6-cylinder that's in the Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer L. That's a very powerful engine considering it makes 510 horsepower in the two Wagoneer L models. It may not be a V8, but it's better than having no form of internal combustion engine. I'm also excited about the Mustang GTD, and whatever the next C8 variant is.
Yeah , hopefully the interior is as nice as the exterior. Sweet looking vehicle!
@@locotekyeah but it’s going to be expensive..
except that engine is ass, and horrible in any application they have tried to use it to build hype
@@Lookin4WhoAsked They're clearly gonna modify it for the Charger Daytona.
@@Lookin4WhoAskedare you joking? The Hurricane engine is one of the best engines out right now.
My wife saw the M5 wagon render and said if that makes it to our shores we are selling both our Jeep Rubis and getting one of them.
Happy wife, happy life right 😂
"If Owen Wilson was a car" I guess Lightning McQueen doesnt exist 😂😂
Ka-Chow!
I said out loud, "he was a car!"
Occasionally I have to comment and say “THANK YOU”! You are a great duo, providing a humorous and articulate presentation with a production quality that is top notch. I subscribe to many channels, but TH and TH Extra are two of three on my notification list. I look forward to your next show!
It feels like fewer and fewer cars are going to be interesting to car enthusiasts every year. There’s nothing on this list that’s affordable to the average income.
😂 I have actually resigned myself from drooling over expensive cars and I think that driving something more sensible is actually better. I mean just look around yourself and see what kind of people drive around in these beast type of cars and how they behave in traffic. I ain’t want to be part of that anymore. At least where I live if someone drives something expensive it’s almost surely a jerk or narcissist behind the wheel cutting me off.
That's cars in general now, not just high performance cars
Prius won an award from throttle house, so I think there will still be interesting cars, but they will be very different from what we expect.
I completely agree.
Inexpensive. Fun. Lightweight. Manual cars that are engaging to drive???
Only 2 are left. Gr86 and Miata.
Sub 50k
Because of agenda 2030
I love these videos so much it’s nice to hear Thomas and James just talk
That kind of easy, spontaneous banter is often tried and rarely achieved by mediocre breakfast DJs but it comes so naturally to these two. Two mates, just plopped on the couch with a laptop, wagon off together.
Just sounds like two friends talking shit because thats what it is.
Yep @@Fijilost
As someone who works first hand on the Multimatic vehicles you mentioned. I am excited to see the recognition of the hard work we put into our work.
Thank you,
Excited for more Throttle house content with all the new cars. Keep it up.❤
The only CyberTruck I'm excited about is the Lego one I'm building that I got for Christmas. 🤪
Kind of a boring build isn’t it? Just one block?
@@thomasholland8436 Hahaha nice. You'd think so, but no. Over 3,000 pieces 😁
Knowing how good Lego is in adding detail and realistic touches, I’m curious how they’ll engineer panel gaps in.
Simulated gears on an EV could be useful, and basically determine how sensitive the throttle response is, and that might affect energy output in a way that is more economical to drive in a lower response, and less in a more powerful one.
That Ioniq 5 N looks surprisingly cool even though I’m not a fan of EVs. Kind of wish they make a gas or hybrid version of it. Would be an epic hot hatch.
Unfortunately it's not really a hot hatch in dimensions. The proportions are so good that it's impossible to tell on pictures but it's really big in real life. It's more a compact SUV than a hatchback really, the seating position for instance is surprisingly high.
It's bigger than it looks and a lot of the things about it wouldn't likely work in a non-EV. I love it, but it's just too expensive and seems built for the track, not a normal commute or driving long distance. I think EVs are great for some people and terrible for others based on their driving needs.
I have no idea how you two met if it was some kind of 1-900 thing, maybe eharmony, a seedy bar somewhere but the chemistry is just pure gold.
The “that’s not cool, is it” to the Dragon Ball Z story made me spit out my morning coffee. Thank you sir 🫡
As an Aussie, the Ioniq 5 N and GR Yaris 8AT are the hype cars for me. Also, anything that comes out from Genesis these days is a banger.
Genesis is so cool! I just wish they were more reliable they are bottoming out the lists lol
I’ve never LOL’ed at an ad placement like I did here 🤣🤣🤣
With motorcar prices continuing their current trajectory… I’m excited to see what’s going to happen with the ultra-luxury sedans. Thanks for the video.
The Valhalla looks incredible!
Aston Martin doesn't do wrong, regarding style
"didn't think there was gonna be an ad there"
"Was there?"
**ad plays**
5 channels and we were bloody happy with it!
Did anyone else get an ad right when Thomas wanted around the 7 minute mark? It was perfect.
good news on the Emira,
USA CARB is now finished. it should be sellable in the next few weeks, month tops. if you are in a non-carb state your emira might already be sitting at the Lotus dealer you ordered from
1. Tesla Cyber Truck
2. Mercedes-AMG GT Coupe
3. Hyundai IONIC 5 N
4. Multimatic Ford Mustang
5. Porsche 911 992.2
6. Porsche 911 Carrera Naturally Aspirated
7. Porsche Boxter & Cayman EV
8. Toyota Land Cruiser
9. Aston Martin Valhalla
10. Chevy Corvette Zora
11. Doge Daytona SRT Charger
12. BMW M5
Need to get as many wagons in a Wagon-Off, invite some guests! Jason Cammisa and Jason from Engineering Explained come to mind
The two of you are fantastic. Love your way of doing these videos. Keep it up, and by the way, the car manufacturers should see and appreciate your super fun and exciting way of doing car reviews, and invite you to these premieres/presentations of their new models. Thank YOU 👍👍👍
as an italian, hearing the "rockies" (whatever _that_ is), getting mixed up with the alps... ah, man...
Love your videos!
I’m interested in the Ioniq 5N’s simulated shifts/gears for possibly giving a better sense of speed because I feel like that’s lost in EVs.
Props to Tom for the freiza reference
Holy cow. That GT Coupe is absolutely stunning
I wish you had more of a focus on regular cars for regular people. You know most people aren't getting $100,000 cars and $200,000 cars.
lol, go by a civic soy boy.
@@rickybobby7549 so, what do you drive … when your parents let you …..
This is why I'm a huge fan of miata. None of the cars on this list is affordable. Miata on the other hand? Super affordable, and tons of aftermarket parts.
Thanks for the great video by the way! :)
“Unsafe at any speed”, good Ralph Nader reference!!
So about the Land Cruiser lc70 is huge in Saudi Arabia and the light blue one is called prado which between the lc70 and the lc300
@4:56 a big heavy electric Eevee?
That’s a Jolteon
Also I wonder if, because it’s an EV, you can bypass the issue via software and get the rear wheel drive mode with the paddles
you missed out the MG Cyberster!
Get the AMG GT C coupe in for the comparison with the new GT! The sweet spot of the prior range
Actually got an ad when James called it
Cmon James, FRIEZA!
first of all, the comment about the Atlantis, doing drug test, was hilarious! Secondly, us Dodge guys have been screaming that this is not a very good idea for the past two years now! There’s no such thing as an electric muscle car, we don’t want electric cars, but Stellantis is trying to force it on us anyway. They’re just gonna have to learn the hard way.🤷🏾♂️
Throttle House over here havin a wagon-off like a couple loonigans.
Zora is for Zora Arkus-Duntov the man who is known as the father of the corvette
The Aston color you are thinking of is called Casino Royale like the movie. Its perfect.
How does this channel only have 272K subscribers? It's just as good, if not better in some aspects, than the original TH.
I’m excited about the GX550👍. I wish Porsche would listen to y’all and do a stripped down 911 with a stick. That would be awesome. Happy new year 🎉
If you guys don't make a TH podcast, at the very least you should do an episode on The Carmudgeon Show with Cammisa and Tam-Scott if you're ever in the bay area
You got me with the ad at 7:04. You evil geniuses.
I'm half convinced that dodge's backup plan for the new charger is to just have people buy it as an upgraded car to the old challenger and make it super easy to engine swap from the V6 variant, since they know everyone is gonna do it anyways
It will sell like hot cakes.
Hellephant swaps, anyone?
16:03 as a 90's baby...
That was a pivotal turning point in my reality
I love seeing the dualshock casually charging in the background. shows me it's not just a display or for show. my guys actually play jam!
I'm personally very excited to see what you both think of the Ioniq 5N. I won't be getting it as it will be too expensive and not very practical for my needs, but would love to get to drive it on a track if it lives up to Hyundai's expectations.
I haven't done a ton of research in the cases regarding the battery replacement for the Ioniq 5s, but I would hope if the damage was really not that significant that they can do a recall to stop that from happening as that feels like a major defect. I also wouldn't be surprised if there was some propaganda going on with these stories, but time will tell.
I will admit that Teslas, and likely other EVs that don't know anything to prevent this, do seem to be getting totalled from rear fender benders due to the damage to the battery where in nearly all cases the driver, nor the self driving software, couldn't do anything about it. They need to treat that battery like the passengers in the car where everything imaginable should be done to protect it in collisions and raise the price of them if that's expensive to do. I'd rather pay more once then gamble on the cost of my insurance premiums every year.
I won't be getting it because it butt ugly. Its hard to take anything Hyundai make seriously with their goofy designs.
@@krane15Hey don’t be so hard on your wife’s looks.
@@lanceareadbhar the Ioniq 60K battery replacements was due to the terrible dealerships in the US, apparently the company intervened and now they have to be contacted for battery issues.
I daily drive a Honda Element: this boxy trend ABSOLUTELY has me holding my breath waiting for a comeback haha
2:40 bless u editor
I SAW THE CYBERTRUCK on the road a couple of weeks back. I live in Texas and I was getting some In-and-Out(GASP) and I was driving on the service road and saw the Cybertruck drive on the Highway. I had to take a double-take because I couldn't believe my eyes of what I saw. It's definitely getting close to production.
"so Stellantis have started drug testing" James is so damn funny lmao
Tagging the wagon review shortcut at the end is absolutely hilarious given the circumstances 🤣🤣
Cyber Truck: The Sport Futility Vehicle.
Base 911 with NA boxer 6, spot on. You guys are really great with valuable opinions but not in script. Same with Jason and cost a lot energy to dig it out, avoiding too much controversy I guess, but Jeremy is still my favorite just like Amg black series.
This ad at 7:02 was perfectly placed
the ad timing was impeccable LOLLL
I feel like it’s the episode of the office when they gave creed identical pictures and ask him to mark the 11 differences 😂. Cybertruck prototype and release are pretty much identical
The blue light gives it an Eyes Wide Shut feel.
YT was on point with the ad
I don't know if you guys can place ads at specific times or if it's at youtubes discretion, but the moment you mentioned an ad popping up, one did.
Hey Thomas. The ioniq5 N can’t do manual mode while also in drift mode because you can’t “simulate” gear ratios to multiply the power at lower speeds. Such as one would need to - drop 2 gears and power out the corner and up shift on the straight.
Because the Ioniq 5 only has one gear. It can only simulate shifts by simply cutting power.
Imo Stelantis/chrisler/Dodge should come out with a version of the new electric Charger by keeping the exact same body but putting a hellcat in it. That would sell like hotcakes. And if they don’t do it someone like Rich Rebuilds will do it.
I can't wait to watch your guys wagon off video!
All will be interesting as I'm curious about them. It would be great if for a "throwback" episode, you got a hold of a Porsche 928 or 935. Or if ever possible a Ferrari 288 GTO
1. The Emira is never coming. It's vaporware.
2. If they put the '69 flying buttress roof on the new EV Charger ... I'll buy it.
15:40 whaaaat didn't expect that hahahah
16:10 Actually James that WAS cool! Everybody loves Goku!
Ik its only me but i enjoy the extra channel more than the main because i just like to hear you guys talk about cars and the long videos here are the best.
Driving east from Vancouver you actually pass through 3 mountain ranges: the Coastal Mountains, Columbia Moutains, and the Rockies.
I think they mixed the Rockies with the Cascades, honest mistake tbf.
I’m just learning Throttle House has never tested the AMG GT (my favorite car).
Really hope they do a comparison test now
3:40 buddy almost got cancelled loool
Great video! Do you have another blooper reel coming out this year?
The electric Charger sound makes me think of the film The Wraith with Charlie Sheen, and the Dodge M4S Turbo Interceptor. 😆
Badass
Jeez,that Charger 'wow' is awesome.
You guys should have a Podcast! You guys are so interesting! And I agree with - you guys really need to get invited to more press launches, you are defiantly up there when it comes to reviewing cars!
To the Wayne and Garth of car reviews, thank you! Please keep them coming.
I like these couch talks
And hard pass for an EV Boxster.... the Boxster is brilliant because it's LIGHT! Has anyone ever heard a Boxster (or Cayman) owner say that they love their car but would love it more if it weighed 4000lbs? Me neither....
I thumbs up'd for the blue light.
Cable and Satellite wasn't that common in the UK. Plenty of people's parents didn't pay for it but DBZ was huge and on Toonami on Cartoon Network. I remember some people would record it on VHS if they still had it to share with friends.
it's like religion in south America
My Emira is scheduled to be here in late April, early May. You can borrow it if you ask really nicely🙂
This was a great video. I’ve never watched anything but y’all’s racing vids and driving reviews. This is seriously great content
I can't wait to see you guys Wagonoff!
“Wagonoff.” Classic!
Laughed so hard at the DBZ reference...😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wagonoff & Loonagin gotta love TH Extra for new sayings I submit you petition Webster to add these words.
It’s the way james timed that ad 😂😂 7:15
Looking forward to a good old fashioned TH super wagon-off. Speed and grip are critical elements but ultimately if it crescendos to a satisfying finish then everyone can sleep well.
Are you kidding me?! Goku going SSJ for the 1st time was epic and VERY cool I tell you!
3:05 I got excited to see... a rear window wiper!
My add came right when Thomas pointed.
15:40 I literally face palmed at the same time.
I'm so excited for the ID Buzz!!