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Eufy Cam 4K vs 2K Wireless Cameras (Eufy Cam 3 vs Eufy S40) - Is 4K really BETTER?
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- Do you think Eufy's 4K cameras (Eufy Cam 3 and the 3C) has a big difference in video quality when compared to their 2K models like their S230 or SoloCam S40? We will find out in this video.
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I found the 2k cameras to have more saturated colors compared to the 4k cameras, and much better performance at night. So, the 4k cameras are probably fine for use in areas that are always brightly lit, but I think I'd go with the 2k cameras everywhere else.
@shubinternet...Thanks for watching!
Both of them are great but I think there is no huge differences of the clarity. Great comparison and thanks for the info!
@user-rd9kb6ox1v...Thanks for watching!
Eufy is in the top 3 for best home cameras but he’s right the 2k & 4k is not a huge difference clarity wise.
@swaaavy1160...Thanks for watching!
Soooo go for 2k then?
@@SpikeTheWolfI would. And just did, actually.
The issue is eufy limit their bitrate of the cameras. 500k/b for 4k is equivalent to 480p. If eufy is serious about clarity, they would up the bitrate to 2mb-4mb.
Unfortunate really.
I understand why they do that though, to appeal to the mass/compatibility
Yes, they can bump it up if they want to.
glad someone mentioned this. They (eufy) and basically all manufacturers targeting mass consumers are throwing out 4K for marketing. They did this even with 1080P, but the bitrate was so low the footage was crap. Basically upscaling a 480p to 1080 or 4K resolution. Also the crappy frames per second. I find it hard to believe we aren't there yet in technology. They got Raspberry Pi performing more complicated tasks out there and cell phone batteries lasting days, once someone can do higher bitrate 30fps even just at 1080-2K with built in solar, then it might give POE cams a run for its money. Until then, its a nice solution with these but far from the optimal one
@@moialder252Yes we are there technology wise . . . but they don't want the average Joe to have that technology. They can count the meatballs in your soup from a sattelite camera, believe me. Problem is that people just accept what ever they get and try to make it work.
@@moialder252 what is a good analogy or metaphor of bitrate difference to resolution?
Why 4K video with lower bitrate worse quality than 2K with higher bitrate?
@@TylerDurden404 1080P with standard/avg bitrates are even way better than what they are putting with all this marketing tricks of 4K but with 480P type bitrates.
Can't find a good analogy. maybe a racetrack both are circle loops, one is a smaller loop but smoothed paved, while the other is a larger loop but the roads itself is bumpy messed up?
I'm assuming C210 means Camera 210, and S220 means Solar 220???
I'm still running my 2C setup that I bought based on your reviews. The cameras still run perfect and thank you for your hard work as always. Obviously still watching your videos years later to keep an eye on what's coming next. Take care 👍
I think it is... Thanks for watching!
Hello LifeHackster, Thanks for another great video. I'm looking forward to your review of the pending (as of 8/20/23) Eufy "Professional" cams. Since you have a direct connection to these camera companies thought I'd ask if you could pass a suggestion on to them. I'm an audio engineer and this has to do with wind noise. As you can hear on one of your videos when the wind hits the mic in the camera it makes a very loud and annoying Low-frequency RUMBLE sound. This also happen on the professional mics we us when recording outside. This noise can substantially and easily be reduced in the recording but just filtering out all frequencies from about 100Hz and down. It would very simple for these camera companies to add this filter as now-a-days it is just a simple software algorithm. Thanks again for all you do.
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll pass them along. My backyard is a test bed for audio for these cameras because 360 days a year, it is windy :) I know the Ring floodlight cam pro has good noise cancellation.
@LifeHackster Great, thanks, Keep in mind Noise Cancelation is a little different than what I'm suggesting. Essentially removing all frequencies below 100Hz will significantly reduce that harsh RUMBLE of wind. You can think of it turning down the bass on your stereo. Also, can you say if and when you will review the new Eufy (Professional) line that does 24/7 recording?
Hey there! Your videos are seriously the most awesome review videos I've ever come across. I really hope those companies are treating you well, because the dedication you pour into making these videos is simply mind-blowing! I've watched a bunch of your videos and I'm still scratching my head over which camera to go for. I'm on the hunt for three cameras, all with 360 capabilities, and I'm all about that top-notch video quality. Zoom isn't a big deal for me, and I'm not really into all the fancy AI detection stuff either. Just gimme the best video quality there is, along with pan/tilt, wired and solid night video performance. Budget-wise, I'm flexible - whether it's $200 or $300, I'm cool with it. I want to be able to use it with Alexa so can do some voice commands and see those cameras.
Can you be my guiding light in this camera quest? Thanks a million! 📷🌟
I stopped your video on S40(2k) and S330(4k) at the 10.,15.20 ft mark with spot light on, and side by side compared. The S40 seems to brighten the yard WAY better than the S330. Does the S330 not have a 600 Lumen spot light?
The built in solar panel is cool but limits you to exposing the camera past a overhang. I personally like the Reolink duo2 2k 180deg camera and mounted the solar panel on top of it. I now have a shaded and sleek camera setup. 2 of them on the rooftop covers 360 FOV
Yes..and that is probably the reason they released the C210 which has no solar panel and you can just hook it up with a separate solar panel.
@@LifeHackster my only concern with the duo is the night filter had got stuck on one lens which caused a pink half image when going from night to day. Luckily I am with a 30 day return policy and got a new one. I know this issue has been an issue on other brand cameras as well, have you encountered this with your vast collection of cameras?
Hopefully a 360 camera comes out, 30fps, quality zoom, reduced WiFi loading lag, good night vision distance and higher MP. One camera roof mounted would cover the entire house, I currently do this with 2 duo cameras on my roof mounted cooler unit.
I’ve got a C210 here, and will either run USB C power or an external panel.
Any idea if I can charge the S230 that way too? I want the spotlight, but there’s no way I’ll get enough sun throughout the year, I’ve got mixed sun at best and it’s very different seasonally.
@@thedave1771 according to the website it says you only need 2hrs of direct sunlight. The solar panel collects 600-800 mAh per day and uses 150-202 mAh day and night average usage.
Unsure about charging it with a battery pack / cable since I decided to stay with the Reolink cameras I have and have no experience with these after the security issue chatter from this brand. I suppose if you don’t get an answer, you can always buy one and see what battery pack works, might require a PD capable one if a regular pack doesn’t work. Worst case scenario you return it if it doesn’t work.
I seemed to notice the 2K night cam was clearer than the 4K-------At least that's how it looked to me 😊
1:40 You said it right! I thought I was the only one complaining about the camera model numbers! It's just so confusing. They should hire a better marketing advisor 😑
I actually thought the 2K had more details in parts - the grass for eg.
I’m hoping Eufy update their Floodlight 2K Pro with a 4K & updated features/hardware. Seeing as it’s powered, 4K won’t dent battery life.
Yes, Eufy needs to release more 4K cameras. Thanks for watching!
In the summer, the solar versions can overheat and break down. I had 2 S40's break down on me and a Eufy solar panel as well. Watch the white plastic next to the lens where the lights are housed. When you see yellow/brown-ish lines behind the glas . . . the camera is breaking down/leaking/overheating. Eufy solar units are far from "outside" proof. Don't know about the regular camera's though.
The low bitrate of these always bugged me with my Eufy 2k indoor cams. Once I switched to the Unifi 2k cameras I was really impressed at the quality of the recordings and it wasn't just the 30fps footage... it just looked much cleaner despite also being 2k...and looking at a video file I just now pulled of night time IR footage of one of my G4 Instant cams, the bitrate is 6688 kbps @ 2688x1512 resolution.
The Eufy sensors are capable of a higher bitrate so if storage is local, why limit them?
I returned "4k" cameras for the same reason. My 1080p cameras had better resolution and night sensitivity than eufy s330.
As for the compression, resolution should not suffer for still or slow moving videos.
to me the Eufy S40 2K was better color quality in daylight, better nightvision with spotlight.
in the IR nightvision the Eufy Cam3 4K had a slight better quality for facial recognition.
Yes, I agree.
On the topic of the effective bitrate (aka file sizes) keep in mind that video compression is a combination of still image compression (difference between regions of the picture vs neighbours) and also frame-by-frame.
In low light there’s a lot less detail being captured, so it’s expected the bitrate will be lower.
An image of a grey wall isn’t identical but it’s all close, so it’ll be smaller than a vibrant detailed image, even if the smallest detail you can resolve is the same).
Similarly a video of a nearly still scene will be smaller than a dynamic moving video.
And there’s just a lot more data to work with with brighter light too, a lot more potential shades/colours.
POE is the best, better quality and jam proof, you can see all cameras on your TV display at once. With the reolink doorbell using ethernet you are jam proof if using a PC connected to Ethernet. Now we just need an alarm system that is jam proof fully wired.
POE does give you higher quality and the option for 24x7 recording, but POE isn't an option for me in most of the places where I want an outdoor camera. So, here you can really only compare against other battery-powered video cameras from companies like Arlo, or the battery-powered models from Reolink.
I have 24-7 recording on a non POE camera. you can hire a pro if needed my neighbor has something like that setup since we have had some incidents in the area. kinda crazy since they have no AC but decided to invest in a wired system with NVR.@@shubinternet
I agree...but some people just can't have an option for wired and these cameras fill in the gaps.
Good for you - thanks for the effort. I have a bunch of these little cams in two locations; they're fun to play with and we like seeing the animals at night as we live in the woods. Cheers. Jim
@jimcan9914...Thanks for watching!
Very THOROUGH and extremely pleasant attention to detail in this video! Don't know your channels general content but I came for the security camera details & performance demonstration and am leaving a subscriber to your YT channel haha! I can't wait to check out your other videos, 👌 peace & much love! -from your Ukrainian brother!
Love your videos,keep up the good work.
From your fan in Australia 🇦🇺
2k vs 4k either way clarity is all that matters and return on investment.... i might go with 2k cameras just off of price alone 😅
Great comparison. Thanks for spelling out all the specs. 👍
You are welcome.
I hope Eufy see this Video and analyze this to next camera or fix the software EXCELENTE job my friend
I really enjoyed your informative video, but I have a question. Is it not the case that unless the video is watched using a 4k quality setting, then the viewer would not be able to discern the difference between the video captured on the 4k and that captured on the 2k camera - and then only if the screen is large enough to reveal the difference in quality. That is, regardless of screen size, there will be no difference between the two videos if watched on 2k, or 720p, etc, etc? I may be wrong, but if not, perhaps viewers could be warned about that. Thanks for the video.
Sure. But you can zoom/crop into a 4K image and take advantage of that detail even when your native screen resolution is much lower.
Whether that’s valuable or not depends on your use case.
I have two eufy cam 3 4k, with the home base three, now ordering three of the s220 models along with the wall cam and light. The 4k cameras are in the front of my house the three 2k will go on three sides of my house and the wall light will be installed on my deck , replacing the outside porch light. Now I’m 100 % covered around my house.
After having them both for a while, thoughts? Anywhere you’d specifically use 2K vs 4K?
@@thedave1771 actually the 2k cameras seem to pick up movement better than the 4k, I switched them to area I want coverage better. The 4K has a spot light so I placed it by my garage area. The 2k are now only in my front yard facing the road and my back yard. The 4ks are mounted on the side yards. I have a wall light cam off my deck. A doorbell cam, which is great. Next will be the s340 rotating solar cam.
@@teaglet I've got an s340 due for delivery next week for the front of my house. Unfortunately it doesn't fully cover the approach to my door, nor is it possible to position a doorbell in a sane location.
Leaning toward the 2K and from what you're saying, it sounds like this is the way to go.
Thanks!
Do these models have better resolution compared to wyze v3 or v3 pro?
Thanks for the upload ‼️
@UFOGHOSTHUNTER...Thanks for watching!
I imagine you’re cooking up the Eufy Solar Wall Light Camera video right now
:)
eufy turning into ring? selling you the same camera with very little difference? i see very little between both cameras and would go for the cheaper one .. speaking of ting.. did you know they will take down your post on neighbors if you are using another camera other than ring to post? eufy might be trying to confuse the marking to make it look like they are putting out new cameras by changing the name. reolink has out the argus ultra 4k .. do a review please.
I didn't know about that in Ring neighbors...I'm getting more notifications on lost cats and dogs recently ;) Yes, I'll be checking out the Argus soon.
Fantastic job as usual, Long live the Philippines! 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
@andresmattos7541...Thanks for watching!
If you were looking for a system with no subscription charges, would Eufy be ahead of others? If so, would the price hike to 4k be much better than the 2K?
I had 2 Eufy S40's both started to overheat. Behind the white plastic, where the lighs sit, yellow/light brown lines started to show. This is a sign that the camera is starting to fail. I also had the Eufy solar panel but after 3 months it broke down as well. I still have one s220 cam (4 months old and it's holding up till now) But when this gives . . . no more Eufy for me. Sorry
Subscribed! You just saved me hundreds of dollars
Any insight on the privacy concerns? Has that been resolved?
Thankfully they have been resolved. They owned up to what they were doing and fixed the issues
It has been resolved.
I need some help😢 I can’t figure out why my ring plug-in floodlight plus camera, has a bunch of static in the audio and playback audios live audio. Could it be my Wi-Fi? How do I know what type of Wi-Fi I need? Should I switch my Wi-Fi/router for a Comcast Internet box, does my cell phone need to be in 5G? I’m about just to give up on all these cameras altogether because it is so difficult and technical. You just want something you can buy and plug-in and have it just work😅
No, I read that if you take your plug-in from your ring camera and if it’s touching any cable say, Comcast cables, whatever or their group together with those cables, they can cause issues. I just don’t know.
Difference between 2 pro and 3c please
Too bad there's not much difference. Probably to save on battery power. I wonder what the bitrate is for the new 24/7 recording E330 cams.
Hey bro do you know if it’s possible to stream your eufy cam 3 live on a large tv with all camera feeds on the big screen? If you can could you please make a video on it? I’m on the fence wether I should spend the money on a full eufy cam 3 system for my house
No, not with the Eufy. If you want a monitor setup, go with an NVR system (search Reolink NVR in my channel)
Eufy keeps getting more and more expensive, AND no the excuse of better doesn't apply. It's not the 90s tech! Quick trip to CHYNA to get quality and inexpensive parts. Listen up if ur here EUFY... honest customer opinion
I think S40 2k is much more clear than the 4K.
Have you had water leak issues with the S40(S230) I have seen that but I know you used it for a while
Only the s40 has that issue that's why they now make the s230
Eufy fixed it
Brah you make the best videos!
Can you charge the S230/40 with an extra solar panel or only with integraded panel?
Yes, you can charge it also with a solar panel.
Another great vid TY
@mackjsm7105...Thanks for watching!
I have tons of Eufy cameras. Between these 2, the only time I prefer the S330 over the S230 is IR Night Mode. Otherwise, the S230 is jsut as good if not better, than the S330. 4k is a loose term with eufy in my mind. Doesn't look 4k to me.
Less compression and 30FPS is needed.
Once they update this, I'll try some addional 4K units from Eufy. Until then, 2K it is for me. "4k" isn't worth the money and I won't be "upgrading" anything to the new E330.
They are advertising a 24hr recording wireless. I curious to see how it operates. It launches at the end of August
Unfortunately like a lot of Eufy products it has been delayed and is planned to launch next month.
I will let others test it out. Sure to be some kinks and bugs to work out.
I can't wait to test it out...
Is there an option for continuous recording or is it only motion detection recording?
Originally i thought "s" was for solocam meaning you can install with WIFI only and not need a HomeBase.... Not sure what "c" would be though. "E" cameras are usually hardwired power like E340, and the wired doorbell camera was recently renamed to "E340 Doorbell Camera" So the.
My Guess is E, is hardwired, 3 is Gen 3,.....i would have preferred if they went 3,4 etc for 3K vs 4K. oh well!
What is the best outdoor camera. Also sometimes our power breaker shuts off for 5 minutes I am looking for one that will not shut off can you please advise
Any battery powered camera that has local recording either with a built in storage like the S40 here or microSD card, it will continue to record events but you will not be able to access it or get notifications until the power is back on.
hi sir.. does this item operates properly outside USA market.. like in the philippines.. just asking.. hoping for ur thouhts.
It works worldwide
Yes they do
I have 2 units of S40 that developed condensation and dirt over the lenses in a span of a year. Are yours having the same problem…?
Eufy fixed that with the s230 model
Any chance you will be doing the eufy S120 review?
When it comes out. I'll be reviewing it. Thanks.
Eufy released their wired 4k cams, main feature is video sticking. Please test this out.
I will when it comes out. Thanks for watching!
I got the eufy cam 3 4k its motion detection is trash. I have this set up at the front of my house people walk by no alerts car drives by no alert. You have to get real close for it to work I have the range on max settings and all motion detection on all my ring doorbell works better it picks up everything can you do a test on the motion detection I don’t know if it’s my camera or its just like this
Can't wait until the Eufy E330 system comes out. Looking forward to you reviewing that system
The E330 is going to be wireless, not PoE.
It is WIFI based but plug in for power... but we will see.
@@LifeHackster Yeah I looked at it wrong and thought it was POE at first but it's just for constant power.
Is there something I'm missing or does Reolink just have better offerings at a cheaper price all around?
When shoukd we expect the Solar Wall Light Cam S120 early review 😅
Not yet..soon..
Were the cameras able to get enough light under the eaves?
Yes.
@@LifeHacksterI try installing onto soffit but the camera is not holding and keep dropping. Not sure whether the holder is defective or a flaw design as the S330 is heavy. Could you provide some suggestions or ideas what could be wrong?
different flood light outputs?
I have eufy wireless door bell I'm happy with it
Good to hear. Thanks for watching!
@@LifeHackster yep
When are you going to review the Eufy E330?
What’s the best wireless camera buy right now new sub here
Thank you, man 👍😄
Thanks you. From Epernay France
Thanks for watching!
1:23 The letter *C* probably stands for "camera" and the letter *S* probably stands for "solar".
True...but I wish they keep the name on their products and not change it.
I have to say, I've tried several cameras from different vendors (Eufy, Reolink, Lorex, Tapo, several brands of 4k dash cams, etc.) and ALL of these so-called "4k cameras" overpromise and underdeliver. Often the difference between 2k and 4k in practical terms is negligible, as shown in this video.
Maybe in 20 years when we have "16k cameras" on the market, we will finally be able to digi-zoom in and read a friggin license plate clearly from 60 feet away in the daytime, or at all at nighttime. Correcting the severe motion blur at night from all these camera products would also be a nice bonus, lol... 😐
It is actually not the resolution... it is the field of view and shutter speed that goes hand in hand if you want a camera that can reliably read plates. This is what the LPR cameras do but..this is the only thing they do.. zoomed in to the area and fast shutter speed resulting in very dark image but it is able to read plates even at night and with no glare.
@@LifeHackster Thanks for the clarification. I'm not a tech guy when it comes to cameras, but I do like to compare end results - hence why I like all your videos.
For a surveillance camera to be practical, it needs to do ALL of the necessary surveillance functions : functional (large) field of view, proper image lighting, good detail capture... and not just be good at one of the three. Hence why I say that maybe "16k" cameras will finally be able to deliver what we need, one day.
To your point, I do have "4k" cameras with optical zoom built in, they are practically useless unless one wants to watch a small spot in front of their house, like a mail box. Surveillance is about capturing minute details and capturing it all at once, because you never know where the threat will show up. Anything less is inadequate, as in today's overhyped consumer-grade surveillance products. I'm still waiting to be "blown away" by the quality of ANY of these so-called "UHD 4k" cameras, lol! 🙃
Will it work with the 5g. phone?
Why you not reviewed the wuuk cams ❓️
Cheers brother.
@Zendukai...Thanks for watching!
S40 worst model fails often , have to power off on to try if it works
In 1 yr both failed and logs support can't fix them
Since i had warranty they gave one time s40 that also failed in next few months
Hi there, I am considering between the two and wanted to ask about the spotlight? I wanted the spotlight to be on to provide safety through illuminatoom of the parking lot. The s40 seemed to have their spotlight more powerful. Is this correct?
Also, on the Amazon page for battery of the s40, it says 3 months even though it is solar powered. Does this mean it needs to be changed it? And for the eufy cam3 if says forever powered. Does the s40 need to have a battery change despite having solarpower? For example, they anticipate battery degradation?
Thank you in advance
s40 600 lumens and s330 100 lumens. No, if you read carefully, 3 months without solar input for s40, or with enough solar input (at least few hours a day) forever power
Really disappointing in clarity. Was waiting for them to move to 4k but looks like their tech is the same but just adding 4k to advertise something better when its not. Guess we have to wait for their next lineup so it can be true 4k. I will then switch.
I'm not surprised at all. Most likely they use the same size sensor, and this way the 4k one needs more light to produce a better image. The sensor size matters, which many of these Amazon brands do not advertise. Do not hunt the megapixels!!! 4k is better during the day, but horrible at night? Thieves usually do their job at night. I personally use Dahua/Empiretech/Loryta(which are all Dahua cameras) cameras 5442 series with 1:1/8 sensor size.
We need that update for the s40 to support homebase 3.
It is now supported. You do need to redo the setup and choose HB3 connection.
@@LifeHackster I tried the other day and didn’t work . So the s40 don’t need to be updated?
Try updating the Eufy App. I was able to reconnect mine. All the on camera recordings though will not be accessible/deleted. @@tufeo92
@@LifeHackster thanks for replying will try it n let you know
@@LifeHackster updated the app and removed the camera, and still can’t added to homebase 3
Thanks. 👍🏻
No problem 👍
Yea eufy needs to fix the automation tab
come on, lets not fool ourselves here. There is no way these security cams are doing "true/real" 4k resolution. This is like when the nest iq outdoor cams were being advertised as having a "4k sensor"; the avg person would immediately think it outputs 4k on your nest app.
They have the 4K sensor but because it uses wireless transmission of data (WIFI), they have to do a lot of compression.
@@LifeHackster Correct! But you aren't going to get the 4k definition like you would see on a 4k disc or even streaming. That's where I think a lot of consumers might find these 4k security cams disappointing. I love your running man and distance tests (where you have the markers at every so many feet). I don't ever see a huge/marked difference between 2k vs 4k
C = cable , S = solar ????
All the name changes just further add to the pot that Eufy have zero idea what they are doing (and what "to do") with their products
I'm noticing a trend with Eufy and Reolink...pumping out different products and US based companies like Ring, Nest and Arlo are barely making any new ones..
@@LifeHackstercould this be a bad sign on the US companies? As they are not competitive, or just giving up?
Color night vision better s40 black and white better s330
I love my s240 and Eufycam 3 4k camera
@Frenchyk...Thanks for watching!
Now after watching the review. I think I would still say the main differences in the camera quality are noticeable when you begin to zoom in. That's more so where the 4k cameras shine.
Unrelated question but, for reolink cameras, if you plug them into the poe switch instead of directly into the nvr, does it disable the ability to link devices (IOT)?
No. It should still work.
Color better at s 40
2 k way better
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Do you have another channel? LH2 ? @LHtoo or is someone copying your channel?
That's mine...that is where I put up my Amazon videos because some people have copied my Amazon videos and post them in UA-cam... So, I decided to upload them in a separate channel so that I can monitor and file a copyright claim if needed... Thanks for the heads up though...
@@LifeHackster glad to hear, just looking out
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