Some other videos which you may be interested: TUCKTEC vs PAKAYAK - Speed Test - ua-cam.com/video/HLDohHoaMs4/v-deo.html TUCKTEC FOLDING KAYAK - How much STORAGE? - ua-cam.com/video/SsGriAsiah8/v-deo.html EUROBLADE vs GREENLAND Paddle - Speed Test using PAKAYAK - ua-cam.com/video/3szlwt-zcd4/v-deo.html
I agree with getting both. At 65, I basically do group tours and rent the boat. Way easier and very reasonable. I am purchasing a Tuktech as I want to do nature photography and I go on shallow rivers and streams. I want to compare the Trak and Pakayak for down the road. You gave me a great idea to purchase the Pakayak used. Hong Kong looks lovely. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for putting together this video. I have paddled both models presented and believe that you have done an excellent job in pointing out the merits of each boat.
I have no car so I cant use a normal Kayak. Inflatables are risky to mold and stink when not cleaned after each use, Foldables are nice to take with you, but I fear being far from shore and having a leak and it will be unfun to go with a Tucktec in winter so it is the Pakayak for me!
Both are great choices but depends on the purpose. I don’t have much space for storage and that’s how I got into these. Really hope the video helped in deciding the Pakayak is for you! Btw, the Pakayak Facebook group is quite active but you gotta own a Pakayak before joining. Hope that helps!
Excellent and very comprehensive channel. Thanks to your multiple videos, I decided to purchase both TuckTec & Pakayak as well. I feel they are complimentary. Most importantly, they both break down into a manageable package and can be stored easily, which was a MUST for me as well. Now, I am looking at Greenland paddles :) Do you use the Greenland paddle for the TuckTec as well or did you go back to Euro style paddle ?
We are Tucktec and Pakayak buddies!! I completely agree with you that they complement each other. Definitely for different purposes. For the Tucktec, I find it easier with the euro blade because of the width of the Tucktec.. also, I sometimes scraped my hand on the edge which wasn’t the best. I use the GP religiously on the Pakayak! Is your next investment the Trak? 😉
Wow, I have just checked Tucktec in US sold for US$350 (HK$2730) + shipping, or two for US $650 (HK$5070). Piscateus is selling for HK$3980 + shipping, quit a bit of markup. Thanks for sharing your opinion. Please also note I live in Oregon and we don't have sales tax.
Yeah what you gotta realise is that Tucktec USA charged approx USD120 to ship to HK per unit before they got the distributors. A lot of people don’t realise this when they see the prices.
@@stann1980 Tucktec's USA support is good also. A user posted on Facebook "I realized that the left side wall (between the two side folds) was more of an "S" shape than a straight line and it looked like the plastic buckled, at which point water poured in and I sank. " She lost that boat, and Tucktec immediately sent her a replacement boat for free. No questions asked.
Great video! Love the Hornet paddle as well. I really wanted to get one but they stopped carrying it on Amazon and I missed out. Went with a Werner Camano instead.
Thanks Cyril! When I ordered on Amazon, there were only 5 left and fortunately got 1! I haven’t used the Werner but I see it used everywhere.. definitely a reputable brand. How are you liking the Werner Camano?
SUGGESTION: Can you do a "If I were buying a pakayak new" video. Based on all your experience to date. What for a first-time buyer who wants to get the best accessories right-away.
That's a good idea though I think it could be very subjective. I feel everyone likes different things when kayaking and it's a great process to discover what you like and need for kayaking. BUT I do recommend having knee/thigh pads if getting the Pakayak as it allows you to have more contact (control) of the kayak however I would probably buy some generic ones and cut it to shapre rather than through Pakayak. I also really like using the spray skirt but other's dont.. it's all personal preference. Hope it helps!
We are kayak buddies! Did you get the Tucktec first? For me, the Tucktec really got me started with kayaking as I enjoyed it so much. I still use the Tucktec for short trips or with friends also with the Tucktec. Other times, I’ll use the Pakayak :)
Hi! I have fished on the Tucktec. There's a small fishing section in this video: ua-cam.com/video/100qBON3M5Y/v-deo.html around the 9:00 mark. There's alot of space in the Tucktec for you to put your gear.. at both the front and the back. The Tucktec is wide so it's stable but again, it depends on where you are kayaking but it's very comfortable to fish with. However, I decided to fish or kayak separately.. it's too much multitasking for me :) Hope it helps!
Excellent review, I’m looking for a pakaya after bought a tucket, I agree pakaya can get me to explore other new challenge place. Any idea who’s a new dealer in Hong kong? Thx
Hi! Thank you for the support! I’m not sure if there are any dealers in Hk anymore. I am actually looking to sell mine as I don’t have the time to go out anymore. If you’re keen, you can message me on my Instagram page instagram.com/fishaholicboy
Thank you for the video comparison. I was concerned about the tucktec fishtailing back and forth when paddling hard since it has a flat bottom. And also how fast it will go. The other kayak looks like it would go faster and fishtail less. Can you quantify the performance? We have a twin seater hobie mirage rigid kayak (peddle drive) which has zero fishtail, very stable (never flip) and fairly fast. I contrast we have some cheap rigid 8.5 ft kayaks that are much less stable and super fishtaily and hence can't go fast.
Hi David! Thanks for watching! The Tucktec actually has a rudder and fishtails less than the Pakayak. It also depends on the wind and current on that day. I usually manage it with my paddling but it can get tiresome sometimes. I won't be able to compare it to your twin seater hobie unfortunately. It terms of speed, I made another video on it here: ua-cam.com/video/HLDohHoaMs4/v-deo.html I'm not an expert paddler but it's just a comparison of the speed between these two kayaks with my paddling style. You can see the results at the end of the video. The main advantage of these are purely for storage and the packability. Both takes me about 3-5 minutes to assemble! Hope it helps!
Great comparison video @Fishaholicboy! This helped me decide on the Pakayak! I have taken it out a few times now and love it! I have noticed some water accumulation in the rear hatch/hull compartment when I am done paddling. Has anyone else noticed water accumulation in their Pakayak hatches?
Happy to hear this video helped with your decision! For the hatch.. I also sometimes get water in but I noticed I did not fasten the lid properly. I always double check this :)
That was another excellent video. New subscriber enjoying all your helpful work. Wondering if you have ever tried a TRAK kayak and would compare that to a Pakayak ?
Thank you! Much appreciated. Funny enough I ordered the Trak in Jan this year but it won't arrive until the end of the year. I believe they are only producing 800 units this year. It's a very long wait but I am ok with waiting :)
TRAVEL: I am thinking if I did air travel I would break the pakayak down in to at least two bags for weight restriction reasons. Wondered if you have flown with it yet ?
That's a great idea. I haven't traveled with the Pakayak yet and honestly, I don't think I will purely because of the size and weight but if the opportunity arises, I will definitely consider taking it overseas. Are you planning to get a Pakayak and travel with it? I would love to hear the experience flying with the Pakayak!
@@hntrains2 I still have the Tucktec but I usually use it in group sessions with my other Tucktec mates. I sold my Pakayak as I needed the storage.. I miss it though
Not sure why you would compare the Tucktec to a boat that costs 4 times the amount, the Tucktec is a $500 boat, the Pakayak is basically $2000, the same people are not shopping for these 2 kayaks.
Hi.. definitely a different price point to compare. I think alot of people are looking for portable kayaks so want to know the different types out there. Quite a few people I know invested in the Tucktec first to start and then went on to the Pakayak. So I’m just sharing my experience with them both and suggested to start with the Tucktec first (if they are new kayaker) to see if they really like it. The Pakayak is just another portable option if they want a hard shell and want to spend :)
The Tucktec is definitely a great one to have! For the Pakayak, you’re really paying for a kayak closest to a touring kayak with the convenience of storage. If I had the space, I’d get a normal kayak ☺️
@@Fishaholicboy yeah I dont have anywhere currently to store anything like that either, thats why i was looking for a more portable option until i move and get a truck. But for a lake i think the tucktec will do great, as long as people in boats don't decide to blast directly beside me.
@@sinisterace5272 the Tucktec will definitely do well on a lake! Will you fish also?? When there’s high boat traffic, I try to stay closer to the shore. But sometimes I see some boats intentionally try and get as close as they can..
@@Fishaholicboy yes, that's the only reason that I want to kayak haha. There is definitely High boat traffic near the main launches, but there are definitely lots of other places i could put in with a tucktec that would allow me to get to where i want to go. Only issue i could see is that there are hybrid? Bass in my lake that like the same tackle as largemouth.... I could see myself getting pulled across the lake.
Hi, Fishaholicboy, thank you for yr sharing. I decided to purchase a Pakayak 142. There was no agent in H.K. I lives in H.K., can you tell me what is the procedure to order it & how to arrange the shipping? Someone told me to use PayPal for the payment. Is there any protection for the customer? looking forward to your reply.
Hi! I just purchased it directly from their website pakayak.com I used my credit card. The shipping cost is a burden as the shipping fee is by size rather than weight. It came by FedEx and was reliable. PayPal has customer protection so you could use that too! I think overall it took about 3 weeks total. Hope this helps!
@@Fishaholicboy I dont have a Oru but I have an Aircanoe foldable K2 kayak which is basically the chinese copy. Imho tucktec is uglier but sturdier. After around 20 times I used it I almost sank it becaus of a hole and from what I gather on the many Oru vids on the Tube it can happen with Oru as well. After 20 times I dont want to sink again (still have to repair that hole...! ) and I dont care about design... I just want sturdy stuff to carry on my bike!
Hi! Thank you for watching. Unfortunately I don't speak Cantonese.. but I believe you can watch the video with subtitles although I am not so sure how accurate it is.. 😅
Definitely is cheaper but it’s really for a different purpose. I still love my Tucktec as it got me introduced to kayaking and it has taken me to many new places
The Pakayak hands down. Foldable are flimsy, except Oru, but those take forever to properly dry. Drop stitch inflatables are great, and light, but do not last as long as a solid. The Pakayak is absolutely brilliant.
Hi! There's definitely benefits for both but it just depends on what people want it for. I haven't tried the Oru yet but would love to one day! I heard great things about it and seen alot of videos too.
The statement here was: a kayak meant for open water is naturally tippy. I doubt that. I've found some kayaks, such as the Pygmy boats, totally stable and not tippy. UNLESS you're not riding the water safely
@@Sowabob Hi! Thanks.. and I agree with you. I suppose what I meant is that sea kayaks are narrower compared to a recreational kayak which makes it "tippier". That "tippiness" is actually what gives stability when you're out in the open water for the more experienced paddler. Thanks for watching!
Some other videos which you may be interested:
TUCKTEC vs PAKAYAK - Speed Test - ua-cam.com/video/HLDohHoaMs4/v-deo.html
TUCKTEC FOLDING KAYAK - How much STORAGE? - ua-cam.com/video/SsGriAsiah8/v-deo.html
EUROBLADE vs GREENLAND Paddle - Speed Test using PAKAYAK - ua-cam.com/video/3szlwt-zcd4/v-deo.html
I agree with getting both. At 65, I basically do group tours and rent the boat. Way easier and very reasonable. I am purchasing a Tuktech as I want to do nature photography and I go on shallow rivers and streams. I want to compare the Trak and Pakayak for down the road. You gave me a great idea to purchase the Pakayak used. Hong Kong looks lovely. Keep up the good work!
Appreciate it! The Trak is a great kayak if you can get your hands on one. I have quite a few videos of the Trak on my channel if you missed it.
I got a TuckTec in 2022 for fishing and it has been great.
I should use it more for fishing too!
Thanks for putting together this video. I have paddled both models presented and believe that you have done an excellent job in pointing out the merits of each boat.
Thank you so much for your comment! Happy to hear you agree with the points I made :)
I'm in love with your pfp.
@@Joehtosis hi! Sorry, what do you mean PFP?
@@Fishaholicboy
Profile picture. I like that it's a hot air balloon from below.
@@Joehtosis hahha I see! Thank you!
This amazing video should have millions of views. Thanks for your incredible work on reviewing them 😎😎👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Thank you so much. It's really humbling to receive such a comment. Much appreciated!
I have no car so I cant use a normal Kayak. Inflatables are risky to mold and stink when not cleaned after each use, Foldables are nice to take with you, but I fear being far from shore and having a leak and it will be unfun to go with a Tucktec in winter so it is the Pakayak for me!
Both are great choices but depends on the purpose. I don’t have much space for storage and that’s how I got into these. Really hope the video helped in deciding the Pakayak is for you! Btw, the Pakayak Facebook group is quite active but you gotta own a Pakayak before joining. Hope that helps!
My same situation. I go for kayak camping expeditions, and inflatables just aren't rugged enough.. paddle on amigo!,😁👊
From what Ive read that plastic on the Tucktek is pretty strong and resilient, as long as it's not abused I think its pretty solid
Many thanks. I'm glad the algorithm added this to my feed. Great information. Also in HK.
Hi! Hope the video was useful :) Great to see someone else in Hong Kong!
300$ vs 2000$ is crazy! i enjoyed the video.
It is quite a hefty difference for sure.. just depends on what is right for you. Thank you for the support!
Excellent and very comprehensive channel.
Thanks to your multiple videos, I decided to purchase both TuckTec & Pakayak as well. I feel they are complimentary.
Most importantly, they both break down into a manageable package and can be stored easily, which was a MUST for me as well. Now, I am looking at Greenland paddles :)
Do you use the Greenland paddle for the TuckTec as well or did you go back to Euro style paddle ?
We are Tucktec and Pakayak buddies!! I completely agree with you that they complement each other. Definitely for different purposes. For the Tucktec, I find it easier with the euro blade because of the width of the Tucktec.. also, I sometimes scraped my hand on the edge which wasn’t the best. I use the GP religiously on the Pakayak!
Is your next investment the Trak? 😉
Great video. Thanks for posting.
Thanks David! I hope it helped if you were considering any one of these kayaks!
Have you tried the K-Pak? I enjoy it pretty much. It is not a performance kayak but rather a convenient portable and stable kayak. Good fun.
I haven't tried the K-Pak before.. I need to check it out on UA-cam!
Wow, I have just checked Tucktec in US sold for US$350 (HK$2730) + shipping, or two for US $650 (HK$5070). Piscateus is selling for HK$3980 + shipping, quit a bit of markup. Thanks for sharing your opinion. Please also note I live in Oregon and we don't have sales tax.
Yeah what you gotta realise is that Tucktec USA charged approx USD120 to ship to HK per unit before they got the distributors. A lot of people don’t realise this when they see the prices.
Shipping costs to Hong Kong is very expensive and also Piscateus is very helpful and has very good after sales service, which is very important.
@@stann1980 Tucktec's USA support is good also. A user posted on Facebook "I realized that the left side wall (between the two side folds) was more of an "S" shape than a straight line and it looked like the plastic buckled, at which point water poured in and I sank. " She lost that boat, and Tucktec immediately sent her a replacement boat for free. No questions asked.
Yeah their customer service is top notch!! Always great to see this
Brilliant stuff mate 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks Yakoob!
Great video! Love the Hornet paddle as well. I really wanted to get one but they stopped carrying it on Amazon and I missed out. Went with a Werner Camano instead.
Thanks Cyril! When I ordered on Amazon, there were only 5 left and fortunately got 1! I haven’t used the Werner but I see it used everywhere.. definitely a reputable brand. How are you liking the Werner Camano?
Really good sharing 💪🏻
Thanks for watching!
SUGGESTION: Can you do a "If I were buying a pakayak new" video. Based on all your experience to date. What for a first-time buyer who wants to get the best accessories right-away.
That's a good idea though I think it could be very subjective. I feel everyone likes different things when kayaking and it's a great process to discover what you like and need for kayaking. BUT I do recommend having knee/thigh pads if getting the Pakayak as it allows you to have more contact (control) of the kayak however I would probably buy some generic ones and cut it to shapre rather than through Pakayak. I also really like using the spray skirt but other's dont.. it's all personal preference. Hope it helps!
@@Fishaholicboy Thank you SO much. But I do think people and may viewers would love your subjective opinion too -- so dont rule it out yet. 😊
haah thanks for the video idea!
I have both and always take out the Pakayak. It's just so much better and faster.
We are kayak buddies! Did you get the Tucktec first? For me, the Tucktec really got me started with kayaking as I enjoyed it so much. I still use the Tucktec for short trips or with friends also with the Tucktec. Other times, I’ll use the Pakayak :)
@@Fishaholicboy
Tucktec was my first ever kayak. I loved it right away. So the next year, I upgraded.
@@ianashmore9910 very similar to me! I got mine around 8 months afterwards :)
Have you fished with the Tucktec? and how had you liked it?
Hi! I have fished on the Tucktec. There's a small fishing section in this video: ua-cam.com/video/100qBON3M5Y/v-deo.html around the 9:00 mark.
There's alot of space in the Tucktec for you to put your gear.. at both the front and the back. The Tucktec is wide so it's stable but again, it depends on where you are kayaking but it's very comfortable to fish with. However, I decided to fish or kayak separately.. it's too much multitasking for me :)
Hope it helps!
Excellent review, I’m looking for a pakaya after bought a tucket, I agree pakaya can get me to explore other new challenge place. Any idea who’s a new dealer in Hong kong? Thx
Hi! Thank you for the support! I’m not sure if there are any dealers in Hk anymore. I am actually looking to sell mine as I don’t have the time to go out anymore. If you’re keen, you can message me on my Instagram page instagram.com/fishaholicboy
Thank you for the video comparison. I was concerned about the tucktec fishtailing back and forth when paddling hard since it has a flat bottom. And also how fast it will go. The other kayak looks like it would go faster and fishtail less. Can you quantify the performance?
We have a twin seater hobie mirage rigid kayak (peddle drive) which has zero fishtail, very stable (never flip) and fairly fast. I contrast we have some cheap rigid 8.5 ft kayaks that are much less stable and super fishtaily and hence can't go fast.
Hi David! Thanks for watching! The Tucktec actually has a rudder and fishtails less than the Pakayak. It also depends on the wind and current on that day. I usually manage it with my paddling but it can get tiresome sometimes. I won't be able to compare it to your twin seater hobie unfortunately.
It terms of speed, I made another video on it here: ua-cam.com/video/HLDohHoaMs4/v-deo.html
I'm not an expert paddler but it's just a comparison of the speed between these two kayaks with my paddling style. You can see the results at the end of the video. The main advantage of these are purely for storage and the packability. Both takes me about 3-5 minutes to assemble!
Hope it helps!
Great comparison video @Fishaholicboy! This helped me decide on the Pakayak! I have taken it out a few times now and love it! I have noticed some water accumulation in the rear hatch/hull compartment when I am done paddling. Has anyone else noticed water accumulation in their Pakayak hatches?
Happy to hear this video helped with your decision! For the hatch.. I also sometimes get water in but I noticed I did not fasten the lid properly. I always double check this :)
That was another excellent video. New subscriber enjoying all your helpful work. Wondering if you have ever tried a TRAK kayak and would compare that to a Pakayak ?
Thank you! Much appreciated. Funny enough I ordered the Trak in Jan this year but it won't arrive until the end of the year. I believe they are only producing 800 units this year. It's a very long wait but I am ok with waiting :)
@@Fishaholicboy AWESOME 🧨 Cant wait to get your opinion comparing the two. So excited to hear that. You made my day ! ❤️
I already have a comparison video prepared haha.. also the speed videos too. Hopefully I will receive it earlier than later but let's see!
TRAVEL: I am thinking if I did air travel I would break the pakayak down in to at least two bags for weight restriction reasons. Wondered if you have flown with it yet ?
That's a great idea. I haven't traveled with the Pakayak yet and honestly, I don't think I will purely because of the size and weight but if the opportunity arises, I will definitely consider taking it overseas. Are you planning to get a Pakayak and travel with it? I would love to hear the experience flying with the Pakayak!
@@Fishaholicboy Yes, will let you know after. Apparently Alaska air will let you take it for FREE.
Now that's what I call good service! If only all airlines were like that..
Good video!
Thank you!
@@Fishaholicboy, are you still using any of the two?
@@hntrains2 I still have the Tucktec but I usually use it in group sessions with my other Tucktec mates. I sold my Pakayak as I needed the storage.. I miss it though
Not sure why you would compare the Tucktec to a boat that costs 4 times the amount, the Tucktec is a $500 boat, the Pakayak is basically $2000, the same people are not shopping for these 2 kayaks.
Hi.. definitely a different price point to compare. I think alot of people are looking for portable kayaks so want to know the different types out there. Quite a few people I know invested in the Tucktec first to start and then went on to the Pakayak. So I’m just sharing my experience with them both and suggested to start with the Tucktec first (if they are new kayaker) to see if they really like it. The Pakayak is just another portable option if they want a hard shell and want to spend :)
looking at that pakayak price im thinking tucktec ftw. For 2 grand i can buy a second hand john boat with a little outboard.
The Tucktec is definitely a great one to have! For the Pakayak, you’re really paying for a kayak closest to a touring kayak with the convenience of storage. If I had the space, I’d get a normal kayak ☺️
@@Fishaholicboy yeah I dont have anywhere currently to store anything like that either, thats why i was looking for a more portable option until i move and get a truck. But for a lake i think the tucktec will do great, as long as people in boats don't decide to blast directly beside me.
@@sinisterace5272 the Tucktec will definitely do well on a lake! Will you fish also?? When there’s high boat traffic, I try to stay closer to the shore. But sometimes I see some boats intentionally try and get as close as they can..
@@Fishaholicboy yes, that's the only reason that I want to kayak haha. There is definitely High boat traffic near the main launches, but there are definitely lots of other places i could put in with a tucktec that would allow me to get to where i want to go. Only issue i could see is that there are hybrid? Bass in my lake that like the same tackle as largemouth.... I could see myself getting pulled across the lake.
Hi, Fishaholicboy,
thank you for yr sharing.
I decided to purchase a Pakayak 142. There was no agent in H.K.
I lives in H.K., can you tell me what is the procedure to order it & how to arrange the shipping?
Someone told me to use PayPal for the payment. Is there any protection for the customer?
looking forward to your reply.
Hi! I just purchased it directly from their website
pakayak.com
I used my credit card. The shipping cost is a burden as the shipping fee is by size rather than weight. It came by FedEx and was reliable. PayPal has customer protection so you could use that too! I think overall it took about 3 weeks total. Hope this helps!
Hi! Did you order the Pakayak?
There is such a thing as a professional kayaker? Who'd have thought?
Hehe I should’ve said advanced kayaker 😅
Oru is better than both, though pricier.
Thanks for sharing your opinion
@@Fishaholicboy I dont have a Oru but I have an Aircanoe foldable K2 kayak which is basically the chinese copy. Imho tucktec is uglier but sturdier. After around 20 times I used it I almost sank it becaus of a hole and from what I gather on the many Oru vids on the Tube it can happen with Oru as well. After 20 times I dont want to sink again (still have to repair that hole...! ) and I dont care about design... I just want sturdy stuff to carry on my bike!
Do you have Cantonese speak video clips
Hi! Thank you for watching. Unfortunately I don't speak Cantonese.. but I believe you can watch the video with subtitles although I am not so sure how accurate it is.. 😅
why not both
For sure! I’m loving both of it :)
I have both. But use the Pakayak almost exclusively.
Pakayak is $2000 while tucktec is $350.
Thanks for watching.. yes, the prices have changed which is nice!
A profession...dosmt make an exspert..lol...just meens they get paid......
No worries brother
Ha! Expert would’ve been a better choice 😅
@@Fishaholicboy straight vid ether way
@@beowulf4100 appreciate it!!
Tucktec is by far cheaper, but it's because it looks like something a 6 yr old kid made out of paper mache.
Definitely is cheaper but it’s really for a different purpose. I still love my Tucktec as it got me introduced to kayaking and it has taken me to many new places
👍🏾🙏🏾 🏴🇸🇪🇹🇹
Thanks for watching!
The Pakayak hands down.
Foldable are flimsy, except Oru, but those take forever to properly dry.
Drop stitch inflatables are great, and light, but do not last as long as a solid.
The Pakayak is absolutely brilliant.
Hi! There's definitely benefits for both but it just depends on what people want it for. I haven't tried the Oru yet but would love to one day! I heard great things about it and seen alot of videos too.
The statement here was: a kayak meant for open water is naturally tippy. I doubt that. I've found some kayaks, such as the Pygmy boats, totally stable and not tippy. UNLESS you're not riding the water safely
@@Sowabob Hi! Thanks.. and I agree with you. I suppose what I meant is that sea kayaks are narrower compared to a recreational kayak which makes it "tippier". That "tippiness" is actually what gives stability when you're out in the open water for the more experienced paddler. Thanks for watching!
@@Sowabob BTW, I just checked out the Pygmy website.. WOW! Definitely something I want to look into.
you repeated yourself about 10x saying which kayak is for who. I don't think that's an exaggeration.
watch your videos before you post them.
Thanks for watching!