Very helpful review. I went straight to Trak after reading numerous reviews about the Pakayak's heavier weight, its comparatively poor secondary stability compared to the Trak, and the Pakayak's wider cockpit. Have been playing with the Trak ever since I finally received it a few weeks ago, and it is both a dream to assemble and kayak. Have fun paddling out there!
Happy to hear you’re enjoying the whole package of the Trak including assembly. Not everyone appreciates. Been wanting to kayak for the past few weekends but it’s been raining 🥲
Recreational kayaks are generally 9 to 12 long. The pakayak is 14 feet, so it is considered a touring kayak. It has been used on rough conditions by Ken Whiting who is a champion paddler, instructor and member of the ACA American canoe association, checked it out and said it feels like any other touring kayak he's tried. The ACA teach about kayaks and water safety etc. He's not impressed with it's ability to roll though. He said the rolling was ok but you do lose some performance due to the portability.
Thanks for this comparison! It does get me close to regretting grabbing the Pakayak because compared to true sea kayaks, I find that the Pakayak seriously suffers due to how much water it seems to 'smash' rather than 'slice'. It feels like I need to work twice as hard as I would in a sea kayak because of it, and even just going 5kmph on gentle water starts to make it spray the deck. On the other hand, it only takes a few minutes to set up, and being able to get into and out of the water easily is THE major selling point of the Pakayak for me.
Hi.. Thanks for watching! I think there's pro's and con's for all types of kayaks out there. I loved the Pakayak because it was comfortable and super easy to assembly and pack. It was the first "real" kayak I owned and it took me to so many wonderful locations.
I was sold on the Trak until you got to the pricing. For almost 4k I would just purchase a non-portable sea kayak and pay to store it. Thanks for the fantastic review!
If you have the storage space, definitely get a one piece! For these kayaks, you’re really paying for the convenience of storage. Happy you enjoyed the comparison!
Hey you two 🤗 - that's not the only reason. A very significant reason for me is the fact that I will own TWO Kayaks in ONE - a straight line speed cruiser for Touring and long Expeditions, as well as a very maneuverable Kayak for Sea going / White water kayaking (Well, for say Class I - III anyways). Not having to own TWO Kayaks is HUGE in my book... not to mention adjusting it on the Fly! Plus stowing a Kayack either ON or BEHIND your vechile unattended can leave oneself open to theft..., whereas either IN the vechile or with you IN your hotel is more to my liking. So yeah, some other reasons to opt for the Trak 2.0 and for me totally justifies the asking PRICE 😊
Ok then buddy what the hell happened I watched this earlier then I went to leave a comment and then the video was gone and now it's back again you just trying to confuse me lol Great video mate, and by the way you gave me an idea, when you said put both halves of the PakAyaK together then carry them down to the water before joining them, this has not crossed my mind before nice one mate.
Haha UA-cam is messing with you! Joking joking. I had to delete the video because I realized I made a mistake and uploaded the video again. Carrying half the Pakayak is much easier than the full thing for sure.. I’m happy this idea helped!
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Would you recommend the trak for someone without a car? I had an Oru (broke it) and carrying it around was very annoying.
I think that if you found it annoying with the Oru, you will have similar issues with the Trak. However I would say that the Trak is much more versatile and it’s the closest to a 1 piece.. it’s a great kayak but again, if you don’t have patience for the setup and dismantling, then it might not be the best for you. Oru set up and dismantling is quite quick!
Going by some of the comments I've seen here, it seems the Pakayak is not suitable for rougher waters or long journeys, more of a recreational boat. Are any of these portable kayaks good for other than flat waters?
Hi.. The Trak works very well in rough conditions. The Pakayak is also good but depends on personal experience but I do feel it's more of a recreational kayak more than anything.
Question please: I'm athletic and in good shape, but new to Kayaking (did it twice in the past 20 years)... so do I purchase something else first to Learn on -OR- do I simply start right off the bat with the Trak 2.0 ? Thanks so much!
Hi! Very happy to hear you’re getting into kayaking. Do you have access to any kayaking a schools around you? I suggest to do a course first.. there’s lots to learn and a lot of fun if done right. If you enjoy it even more after the course, then if you can try different types of kayaks (either through friends, clubs, or shops with demo), it would be the most ideal. What I found is that my skills progressed quickly and I always wanted to upgrade (an excuse haha). The Trak can be quite difficult for a beginner but I believe can adjust very quickly after a few sessions but learning to remount is important. Thus I suggest again, try and do a course and you’ll get to meet great people with similar interests!
Agree, I do plan on taking some courses/training, however I would just assume do so on the Kayak that I plan to own... unless of course you have reason for me not to do so? I'm a quick study... and I just happen to flip and then was able to get rightside up again my first time out (granted 20 years ago).
Maybe I buy the Trak 2.0 and give it a try and only IF it is initially too difficult, I can then Rent 2-3 times to hone my skills before going back to the Trak. Hmmm, I believe that sounds like a good plan 🤔.
@@johndaddabbo9383 that sounds like a good idea! Another option is for you to contact Trak to see if there are any Trak Pilots around your area to give the Trak a test run to see if you like it!
I would have bought the Trak 2, but my butt didn't fit on the seat. I have been sitting on the plastic left and right of the seat. Eventually I have bought the Pakayak Bluefin 142. I have no problems paddling long distances and my butt fits on the seat. Always test a kayak before you buy it. And don't buy it if it doesn't fit. For example I would not have bought the first Pakayak, the Bluefin 14, as the cockpit has not supported persons taller than 1,7 m.
Does Pakayak have better customer service than Trak? Trak customer service is terrible. I'm sure many people have heard about the long wait times for delivery, but the company is also unable/unwilling to deliver on its warranty.
Hi! I haven’t contacted their CS before so I can’t say. From my experience, my Pakayak shipped within a week while I waited 1.5 years for the Trak. From what I have heard, the delivery times of the Trak has improved immensely but still waiting time required.
Very helpful review. I went straight to Trak after reading numerous reviews about the Pakayak's heavier weight, its comparatively poor secondary stability compared to the Trak, and the Pakayak's wider cockpit. Have been playing with the Trak ever since I finally received it a few weeks ago, and it is both a dream to assemble and kayak. Have fun paddling out there!
Happy to hear you’re enjoying the whole package of the Trak including assembly. Not everyone appreciates. Been wanting to kayak for the past few weekends but it’s been raining 🥲
Recreational kayaks are generally 9 to 12 long. The pakayak is 14 feet, so it is considered a touring kayak.
It has been used on rough conditions by Ken Whiting who is a champion paddler, instructor and member of the ACA American canoe association, checked it out and said it feels like any other touring kayak he's tried. The ACA teach about kayaks and water safety etc.
He's not impressed with it's ability to roll though. He said the rolling was ok but you do lose some performance due to the portability.
Thanks for this comparison! It does get me close to regretting grabbing the Pakayak because compared to true sea kayaks, I find that the Pakayak seriously suffers due to how much water it seems to 'smash' rather than 'slice'. It feels like I need to work twice as hard as I would in a sea kayak because of it, and even just going 5kmph on gentle water starts to make it spray the deck.
On the other hand, it only takes a few minutes to set up, and being able to get into and out of the water easily is THE major selling point of the Pakayak for me.
Hi.. Thanks for watching! I think there's pro's and con's for all types of kayaks out there. I loved the Pakayak because it was comfortable and super easy to assembly and pack. It was the first "real" kayak I owned and it took me to so many wonderful locations.
I would love to try both one day.
I hope you get the chance too!
I was sold on the Trak until you got to the pricing. For almost 4k I would just purchase a non-portable sea kayak and pay to store it. Thanks for the fantastic review!
If you have the storage space, definitely get a one piece! For these kayaks, you’re really paying for the convenience of storage. Happy you enjoyed the comparison!
Hey you two 🤗 - that's not the only reason. A very significant reason for me is the fact that I will own TWO Kayaks in ONE - a straight line speed cruiser for Touring and long Expeditions, as well as a very maneuverable Kayak for Sea going / White water kayaking (Well, for say Class I - III anyways). Not having to own TWO Kayaks is HUGE in my book... not to mention adjusting it on the Fly! Plus stowing a Kayack either ON or BEHIND your vechile unattended can leave oneself open to theft..., whereas either IN the vechile or with you IN your hotel is more to my liking. So yeah, some other reasons to opt for the Trak 2.0 and for me totally justifies the asking PRICE 😊
Really interesting comparison and a well put together video as always!
Thank you! Was fun putting it together
I would love a trak 2.0, but unfortunately the price difference is what made the pakayak right for me 😂 still love it tho!
The price of the Trak is quite hefty to be honest but don’t worry, you have a great kayak.
excellent review ! Thanks for the effort. I'm going to get a Pakayak and based on your comments I'll likely get Trak later as well.
I’m sure you’ll enjoy the Pakayak! It’s given me so much more freedom to tour to many places
just order one trak2.0 after seeing this review ... and keep my pakayak ❤
Wow! I really hope you enjoy the Trak… I know I am!
Ok then buddy what the hell happened I watched this earlier then I went to leave a comment and then the video was gone and now it's back again you just trying to confuse me lol
Great video mate, and by the way you gave me an idea, when you said put both halves of the PakAyaK together then carry them down to the water before joining them, this has not crossed my mind before nice one mate.
Haha UA-cam is messing with you! Joking joking. I had to delete the video because I realized I made a mistake and uploaded the video again.
Carrying half the Pakayak is much easier than the full thing for sure.. I’m happy this idea helped!
Would you recommend the trak for someone without a car? I had an Oru (broke it) and carrying it around was very annoying.
I think that if you found it annoying with the Oru, you will have similar issues with the Trak. However I would say that the Trak is much more versatile and it’s the closest to a 1 piece.. it’s a great kayak but again, if you don’t have patience for the setup and dismantling, then it might not be the best for you. Oru set up and dismantling is quite quick!
Going by some of the comments I've seen here, it seems the Pakayak is not suitable for rougher waters or long journeys, more of a recreational boat. Are any of these portable kayaks good for other than flat waters?
Hi.. The Trak works very well in rough conditions. The Pakayak is also good but depends on personal experience but I do feel it's more of a recreational kayak more than anything.
@@Fishaholicboy Thank you!
do you trust the trak 2.0 on the water as much as a non-portable kayak?
Good question.. yes I do. I think being prepared is the key!
@@Fishaholicboy Awesome! Love your videos, by the way! :)
Question please: I'm athletic and in good shape, but new to Kayaking (did it twice in the past 20 years)... so do I purchase something else first to Learn on -OR- do I simply start right off the bat with the Trak 2.0 ? Thanks so much!
Hi! Very happy to hear you’re getting into kayaking. Do you have access to any kayaking a schools around you? I suggest to do a course first.. there’s lots to learn and a lot of fun if done right. If you enjoy it even more after the course, then if you can try different types of kayaks (either through friends, clubs, or shops with demo), it would be the most ideal.
What I found is that my skills progressed quickly and I always wanted to upgrade (an excuse haha).
The Trak can be quite difficult for a beginner but I believe can adjust very quickly after a few sessions but learning to remount is important. Thus I suggest again, try and do a course and you’ll get to meet great people with similar interests!
Agree, I do plan on taking some courses/training, however I would just assume do so on the Kayak that I plan to own... unless of course you have reason for me not to do so? I'm a quick study... and I just happen to flip and then was able to get rightside up again my first time out (granted 20 years ago).
Maybe I buy the Trak 2.0 and give it a try and only IF it is initially too difficult, I can then Rent 2-3 times to hone my skills before going back to the Trak. Hmmm, I believe that sounds like a good plan 🤔.
@@johndaddabbo9383 that sounds like a good idea! Another option is for you to contact Trak to see if there are any Trak Pilots around your area to give the Trak a test run to see if you like it!
I would have bought the Trak 2, but my butt didn't fit on the seat. I have been sitting on the plastic left and right of the seat.
Eventually I have bought the Pakayak Bluefin 142. I have no problems paddling long distances and my butt fits on the seat.
Always test a kayak before you buy it. And don't buy it if it doesn't fit. For example I would not have bought the first Pakayak, the Bluefin 14, as the cockpit has not supported persons taller than 1,7 m.
Oh I didn’t realise the first Pakayak had a shorter cockpit. Definitely should try all kayaks before buying if possible!
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Thanks Bill! Hope you’re well!
Does Pakayak have better customer service than Trak? Trak customer service is terrible. I'm sure many people have heard about the long wait times for delivery, but the company is also unable/unwilling to deliver on its warranty.
Hi! I haven’t contacted their CS before so I can’t say. From my experience, my Pakayak shipped within a week while I waited 1.5 years for the Trak. From what I have heard, the delivery times of the Trak has improved immensely but still waiting time required.