Drill Press Review BOSCH PBD40 / UNBOXING
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- In this video Tim Unboxes, builds and shows off the Bosch PBD40 Drill Press.
Features, Pro's and Con's.
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I've seen a lot of negative comments about the wheel, but I rather like it.
The machine is absolutely perfect for my tiny to non-existent workshop.
Size is precisely the reason I got got it too. But I absolutely love it. Wood, steel, stone, tile, glass, I've drilled everything with it.
You can buy an after market handle for the wheel. Just search for (handle for bosch drill press). Around £20
For me the main con about the wheel is not being able to apply pressure. But there is a good reason for that, it easily bogs down, especially in the lower RPM ranges. This is not a drill press for when you drill a lot of metal. It just feels flimsy and small.
@@patrickd9551 I drilled a lot of metal with it. What you need, when you drill metal, is a properly sharpened drill and a little oil, not a lot of pressure. Even with a larger, more powerful and more rigid machine, if you need to apply a lot of pressure precision is gone.
Does your drill have any play at the chuck? I've seen couple of reviews mentioning it. Mine has it also and it is considerable. I had it repaired by bosch under warranty, they replaced the bearings, shaft and the chuck but the play is still there. It's quite annoying. The drill tends to drift when drilling into mild steel for example. Whats your experience?
I had my doubts but in the end i did buy it, no regrets at all, for that price it does his job nicely.
A tip for the users: when you're going to drill bigger holes in steel or wood clamp or secure the drillpress believe me it's needed.
Thanks for the comment and advice.
Tim
Re the wheel I found it awkward to use,but I fitted a car steering wheel "knob" from Amazon cheap fix and makes it a lot easier to use.
Good idea 👍
I would have made one😎
great video timmy! keep up the amazing work, great advice will definitely take this into consideration.
Theres far too much play in the chuck and mechanism for any accurate drilling , i used a demo machine and it was instantly noticeable. All bosch have done is install a 750w corded diy drill motor and chuch into a housing . The lack of a cut out in the table/foot for a sacrificial insert is another major flaw when it doesn't have a separate table . You really can get a far superior drill press for less money , when looking for a drill I'd place accuracy over power. I'd much rather have an accurate 350-500w drill than a 750w drill with excessive play . I'd recommend looking at the Axminster AW315PD 550w its similar money and accurate beyond measurement
Thanks for the advice! I will look into that drill press for the future.
Cheers
It's funny you should say that. I used to have an Axminster AT340PD (Which given that it's from their "Pro" range, should be better than the one you mentioned) and the runout was appalling - But they said it was "in spec". I ended up returning that (Axminster were really good about that, even though years had passed with me avoiding using it because I hated it) and purchased a Bosch PBD40 to replace it. (With no runout.)
I think that the takeaway is that all of the drill presses at this price point are hit-and-miss, so make sure you test the one you receive and return it if it doesn't meet your expectations.
At 40% more, at least in the Netherlands I would not say it's in the same price class.
@yngndrw. I think your right , getting hands on before you buy is definitely the most important thing as everyone has different requirements for a drill press . I was purely looking for accurate vertical drilling in timber and very occasionally aluminium. I can second what you said about the Axminster pro range , when I wanted to upgrade from my aw315 which is bench top to a floor freestanding model I didn't feel like any of the Axminster range were a significant upgrade. I ended up going for the SIP 01717 which is twice the machine I will ever need at 1100w but over the moon with it and expect it to be the last one I ever buy , fingers crossed
As long as you use an awl or center punch, the slop is negligible assuming you've got high quality bits. If it really is an issue, you can buy an aftermarket chuck (not that I think you should, only if you own the machine, enjoy it, but need greater accuracy).
The vertical travel is actually very good but if you still can't get a sacrificial insert under it, you can swivel the thing on it's column, you just have to loosen a grub screw in the back and lift it slightly. It would be very easy to build a base for it if you had a bit of scrap laying around.
For woodworking, it's pretty much all you could ever want or need, the only negative is the lack of depth and the shite wheel.
For most cases the clamp is great. When I need to drill holes that don't fit between the two prongs of the clamp, I turn it sideways and clamp the piece down on just one side. If that doesn't work properly, I turn it completely sideways and use a regular vise or regular hold down clamps. But it's less than one in ten holes, maybe even less than one in twenty, where I can't use the built-in clamp.
That’s interesting! Thanks for the advice 👍🏼
The clamp sucks big time. It's the worst feature on the machine, followed by the moronic decision to put a wheel on it.
After modding both, it's usable and OK for the price.
@@andreas5384 To each his own, but I find the clamp extremely useful.
I also love this drill press, I agree that the wheel on the side is it's weak point, to overcome the problem I installed a car steering wheel knob to it and it works great. I found that any play in the chuck is removed when I lock the drill in position, I make small parts and a 3.5mm drill bit is the largest bit I use, and I find that my Bosch drill press is accurate, maybe I was lucky and got a good one.
I use a cars steering wheel turning aid used by people with a disability. Mostly they only have one usable hand. I havecalso seen these on forklift steering wheels.
They allow to turn over and over 360° with one hand and you don't have to take the hand off and reposition it.
Thanks, will be trying this
I had to replace the chuck on mine, as the runout was absolutely abysmal. I replaced it with one of much better quality. That helped quite a bit.
The electronics is slow to react to changes in force applied, so the revs drop considerably.
Over time, the handle for the depth stop wears out around the nut in it so that it doesn't tighten properly.
And yes, the capacity quickly becomes an issue, so I bought a UJK drill guide for holes in places the Bosch can't reach. I WILL be using a Bosch drill with the guide though... :)
Interesting it even tries to maintain speed. You wouldn't want it to to react quickly. It'd take a massive torque increase that would break things
One strange thing about this machine is that it comes fitted with a RÖHM Supra SK E chuck, which Röhm states is not suitable for drillpresses, only handheld drills. I have found it work fine, although it's not super exact. That and the fact that the laser is not 100% exact either (very fiddly to align IMO). But I've used mine a lot and it is very good for this price point.
The Rohm Supra-S chuck is a good replacement available from a number of suppliers (80 euro but about AU$250). A knob for the wheel or turnstile handle are readily available from Amazon or eBay. I like it as it is a perfect fit for my small DIY workshop.
Thanks for the comment Mark, I am looking into the Ball.
Cheers
Unless the original chuck is damaged, I have not found any reason to replace it. I have used many chucks over the last sixty years, and this is one of the best. The price of the chuck you mentioned is more then half the price of this complete drillpress. Afterall, it is a lightweight machine, not an industrial monster.
Clamps similar to the sort sold by Microjig and Festool fit into the grooves on the base. Very handy for clamping things in whatever position you need.
Great tip! Cheers
The first red lever that’s referred to will undoubtedly strip itself as mine did, rendering the whole press useless. I sent it back to Screwfix where I bought it - who sent it to Bosch.. who sent me a brand new one. It won’t be long until it strips itself again though.
Other than that, I like it 👍
I agree. Had it over a year and it’s done everything I ask it to in metal and wood. I changed out the chuck which was a major pain, but a worthwhile upgrade.
Will be looking into this upgrade as some stage
We bought one of these at work as a back up for smaller jobs to our big Serrmac pillar drill. I agree with the pros and cons in this video (especially the speed control and the price), but the wheel handle is quite ok after a while, especially for small jobs. However, the biggest con is the cheap plastic handles on the column: it broke after a weeks use. But then again, this is a *Green* Bosch machine and what can you expect?
Cheers for the comment, I haven’t found that to be the case yet.
For a diy home workshop where you need maybe a few times a month its actualy great value for money. Yes it needs some small improvements to be top spec. But for the money and what you get its actualy great.
You should upgrade it..... Many user complains about accuracy and theres too much play. PBD 40 is not available here in my country but I almost bought it from international seller.
Im glad i didnt follow through that purchase. I bought a rusty, dilapidated, not functioning Elliot Progress Junior no12 instead.... Lmao.
Its lot of work to get it running but its worth it. The whole thing still cost me almost the same as buying the PBD40 plus the shipment....
Im happy
Thanks for the comment
Rather than having a "chuckless head" 4:08, I think it's a keyless chuck.
Yes! Mouth full of wrong words there 😂
I've had this Bosch pillar drill for five years and I love it.
Great comment
I bought the Bosch Drill Press year because it was so compact & easy to move out of the way if I needed more bench space.
I completely agree about that the clamp, it's awkward & was swiftly removed. The wheel feels coarse, it would be great if reduction gear could be swapped in, but other than those 2 minor points, it's a beauty.
Thanks for the comment, I agree with your 2 points!.. good press for a small shop
Adjust the height with the bottom left red handle before you start drilling. Then you don't have to worry about long travel and the wheel.
Yes correct! Unless your drilling different height materials all the time
Knobs on the steering wheel should be possible to find in places they sell parts for tractors. They are really common place.
Cheers for the ides
Could you reverse-mount the drill head on the post and attach the base to a shelf above your workbench? That would allow you to use big material pieces under the drill (and make for a clean workbench).
I've had a Scheppach "version" of this drill for years, just superb - no more belt changing for speed - yehhhhh. Main modification was to add a box for it to sit on my bench - keeps the work base at the same height (also gives you a place to keep drills and stuff underneath) - unlike the stupid design of 'regular' pillar drills that have the bed changing height all the time /rant 😁😁
I had the Scheppach near identical version kept it less than 24 hrs first time tried drilling Chuck and shaft assembly wandered all over the place un-able to drill a precise round hole after several attempts. Kept the receipts got full refund. Great shame concept was good but build quality absolute junk 👎
I like the idea of the box for the bench! Is on the list
for the wheel you could add a knob like what truck drivers use on the truck's driving wheel (or of course you can 3d print something similar).
You can 3D print a handle that can be added one of the wheel spokes to allow easy clamp on and off the handle to use.
Allowing you to have the 3D printed handle or the regular wheel of the drill press as you please.
Yes, this is what I will be looking into making soon. Cheers
Steering wheel knob from Ali Ex is cheaper, easier and better. And you don’t have to spend thousands on a great big space gobbling 3D printing machine.
@@johnpipping3848 He already has a 3D Printer on hand.
This is much better than many would have you believe. There is some chuck wobble but this has never stopped me drilling precise holes in for example classical guitar bridges. I did try a recommended chuck upgrade but it made no difference so I assume the runout is down to another part.
The digital depth readout, laser and light are all very useful.
I find this Bosch model to be much easier to use than all of the inexpensive pillar drills offered by Axminster and similar.
Excellent review
Great tutorial and spot on. I have had this on for 5 years and love it. Agree with pros and cons.
Thanks for the comment,
Good work Tim
If it can be power by battery, will be great
That would be a cool Mod!!
As for the wheel issue, get a steering wheel knob, probably will help if it fits
Great thinking!
For a fraction of that rice you could get a 2nd hand fobco.
Your probably right, I like the size of this for my small area
@@Tim.the.Tool.Man. You might be right, when I got the Fobco, it took me two days to move it into position, very heavy indeed!
I bought a steering wheel knob and fitted it to the drills wheel. It works great.
Interesting! I might look into this! I think I know the knobs your talking about
I've got the Aldi (Ferrex) version of this. Love it!
Excellent, I wonder how similar they are
I wonder if you could make a handle and fit it by drilling a hole in the wheel to fit the handle. The handle would have a threaded bolt in the end which goes through the hole in the wheel and also is able to spin on the thread so that as you turn the wheel using the handle, the handle rotates so that it is stationary in your hand. Does this make sense?
Thanks for the comment, yes I do know what you’re referring to!.. I am looking at manufacturing something similar up
Nice review and looks like a nice tool. I'd say that wheel would be less of an issue if the drill press was screwed down.
@@CrucialHerm4n I don't have mine screwed down as I need to move it around. The machine is heavy enough not to move at all when using the wheel, but light enough to move around the workspace.
That's a very clear video, well done. It also addresses a couple of points that I did not find in the other videos I've watched. Another point I would mention (as has come up on other videos) is the drift from centre, certainly with Forstner bits - I would prefer that I could rely on exactly where the bit will penetrate.
Thanks… I might make a future video addressing this, cheers for the comment
this looks incredible and revolutionary, but at what price. it looks supremely expensive. if the price ever comes down to the ~ $ 2,000 to 3,000 line, i just might get one, even used. VFD with lazer -- cant go wrong
Hi, not sure what country you are from, although it didn’t cost me anywhere near that price.
Tim
Which type of dollars are those? I bought mine for €180.
I've had this drill-press for over 10 years. I find the laser and LED to be a bit of a gimick, but the digital readout is sweet. The construction is quite light, but it comes at the cost of rigidity. If you need very accurate depth you need to be mindful of how much pressure you put on the wheel. That said it's plenty powerful, and the chuck has a great hold on the bit. I can not recall having it slip so far. I have not made any changes to the macine. I find the wheel quite convenient, though I do feel a bit like a contortionist sometimes. The clamp is convenient and still lives on the machine, but it is a bit weak for some work and too small for large bits. The speed adjustment isn't so important for woodworking. For the most part you can go as fast as you dare in wood, just make sure to feed fast enough to keep up. For metalworking, however, the speed is much more important, and the drillpress comes with a hand sticker on the side which tells you what speed you need. I have used that a fair bit, and it works great.
Thanks for the comments and great advice
Tim
I have one. It's pretty good. Bearing slop is terrible but apparently can be sorted by replacing the bearings (I've not yet done it on mine). Chuck seems ok but lots of people seem to have problems with theirs. Easy to fit a nice(er) one though
suggest you pay attention to the background - it may seem trivial, but it's part of your presentaion and influence
Hey mate, thanks for the comment, I’m interested in what it is your referring to? Would be keen on improving my vids any way I can. Tim
@@Tim.the.Tool.Man. A couple of guesses, I'm no expert, and didn't really notice until their comment made me curious:
1. Really white wall, feels a bit instituional
2. The bench behind is a bit messy
Cheers, great review!
Can’t wait for my purchase to arrive now, thanks to this video I now have the confidence I need to buy this machine.
Thanks mate, you will enjoy it
Replacing the chuck with Supra one will decrease play on it.
Cheers for the advice
For a small place they should create something like a Drill press and table saw in one tool.
What's the cost and where can you get one? I searched google and every link either shows a different drill press or it says SOLD OUT. What the????
I got it on Prime days in July!
I bought one a couple of years back. It’s not perfect. I like the adjustable speed and it’s mini DRO for depth.
But, the chuck is rubbish and is not the correct chuck for a drill press and the bearings are not appropriate so I get a ton of run out that’s visible to the naked eye. It’s like a bad hand drill which is where the chuck is from.
There are videos on replacing the chuck and the bearings which make a world of difference. Lucky I have access to my dad’s old drill press which is an old English made drill press that’s concentric with no run out.
Cheep but usable for basic non accurate work.
Interesting, I have put my hands on demo drill press several times at different shops, and I have found consistently there is a lot of play in the chuck.
Thanks for the comment!.. I will look into the new chuck and bearings for the future.
Cheers
@@Tim.the.Tool.Man.is it possible to fix the play? I mine has gone out of warranty before I really tried it the movement in the chuck is appalling.
SIR YOUR FAMOUS!!!
Dropping the bits on their end is fun. I'm not going to knock it, but hopefully its cheap. Its a neat modern take. It would not last more than a few years in normal use, but its good for a small shop.
Kind of hot Chinese garbage otherwise.
Great for a small shop 👍🏼
I was stupid enough to buy one of these, it is CRAP! The spindle wobbles making drilling an accurate hole impossible. It is a well known problem. I contacted Bosch regarding the issue. Were they issuing a recall etc and was amazed and disgusted by their response. They told me that as long as I followed good drilling practice, centre punch etc, the spindle wobble wouldn't be an issue!!!
Sorry to hear this!
This thing is just so perfect for a small shop. I avoided my previous one because i had to move it (everything needs to be moved in a small shop) and it was a complete pain.
It’s so compact it can fit in a cupboard
I 3Dprinted 3 wheel knobs for mine (model can be found on printable website) and bought the Bosch vice and I’m happy with it for small quick jobs in the shops (wood / metal). My only regret is the excessive play that makes it not so accurate. Otherwise a good little tool to have
Just as an idea I wonder if the knob that you put on a car steering wheel would fit that wheel on the drill
Great idea, will try one
Take clamp off and you can drill straight through the base. I use this to drill perfectly spaced holes in my mft.
Cheers for the comment. I will probably do the same eventually
We have this one at work. It"s a good, cost effective machine. But the chuck is by far the worst part.
Sorry to hear that
Nice video pressy
That safety cover is hilarious
And a new edition, mine is 2 years old and doesn't have it.
Some people might still have their fingers when it was existent ;)
I got this for 2 years. Really nice one
I have it, it is ok. It is better than no drill press, and it is compact. It has its flaws.
Please measure the play in your main bearing, the side to side movement in the chuck is aweful on mine
It's a ok drill press for the price. Better than the cheaper ones. But after some research i found someone that replaced the bearings, upgraded the chuck and replaced the wheel with handles.
I have mine almost a year and i am ok with this drill press. But i will upgrade the bearings and chuck in the future.
One thing i noticed is you have the gard on the press. Mine came without one. I do6mind because I would have removed it anyways. 😅
So the outcome is "an ok drill press for a keen DIYer"?
Correct! I think most woodworkers would benefit from this machine
The Fence does not have to be straight since the Drills are round 😉
You will need the perpendicular distance to put the holes where you want them.
Been thinking about buying that machine for a while now, this video might push me over the edge 🙂
Do it!!!!!
4:13: ''chuckless head'' ......... do you mean keyless chuck ??
Does anyone know for sure where I can buy the speed control unit? In Bosch it is not available!
I've had one for roughly a year. It's not perfect, but there simply isn't a better drill press available at the same price point.
I agree mate. Cheers
Hey, nice video. About the Wheel (your "biggest con")... Ottertools is selling a "Drehkreuz" compatible for Bosch PBD-40 on Amazon.
Thank you for the review as I am planning to get one. But I am worrying about the max height of the drill press I have limited room on the rack to sit this drill press.
Hi,
I am sure you could find that out with a quick google search, let me know if you can’t and I will go measure it for you.
Tim
Add a steering wheel Ball 👍
I’m looking forward to trying this.
Cheers
Because gears are plastic, pillar of drill does not allow for much room to put stuff below in height and width …
I will never buy another Bosch tool.
Their standards have nosedived.
These are marketed with many different badges - I have a Scheppach exactly the same and also the parkside is same. A few others also seen in the past. i like mine and use it a lot.
Seen some reviews of both the Parkside and Scheppach versions of this machine. Reviewers concluded that they are "budget copies of the Bosch machine, and does not match the quality" (e.g. Bisch Basch Bosch, review here on YT).
Not in a thousand years will Scheppach or Parkside machines come anywhere near Bosch in terms of quality and precision.
A good review mate. It may be something I need for fine work. Will check one out. You are obviously an Aussie!!
Great video
Hey, nice video. About the wheel (your "biggest con")... Ottertools is selling a "Drehkreuz" compatible for Bosch PBD-40.(at least in EU)
Like how portable and flexible features it has😀
How did you get 30% off?
Have the same drill. When used to the wheel, its nice bit id like a handle attached too.
Subscribed even though no new info for me. Just supporting :)
is the transparent guard thing a sign of a new model or is it due to tool safety regulations in your market?
Mine doesn't have it & I'm wondering if Bosch fixed the bearing play in your unit (though I doubt it, since it's Bosch)... 🤔
Why is it called a drill PRESS?
As far as I can see it's just a bench drill with a few frills - what's the pressing function?
"Drill press" is just another term for a bench drill - also known as a pedestal drill or pillar drill. I've always thought of "drill press" as a primarily North American term, but I might be wrong. There's nothing more to it than that.
I’m guessing it’s because you are ‘pressing’ the bit into the timber. Vertically or perpendicular to the material
You can put the clamp next to the piece.. no need it will go around the drill like it wouldnt do on other machines with a classic downholder. :)
Good advice, cheers
Auxiliary handle on Etsy
I bought this drill like 5 years ago, how is this a new thing? Did bosch just release it in the US?
Interesting, I saw one at our local hardware store and thought it looked ridiculous, I instantly didn't like the handle however your review has given a better perspective on the unit. I like that it has a Z DRO and it does seem to have enough power at low revs so maybe I wont be so quick to rubbish it. Anyway not for me its obviously wood orientated and Im more metal
Thanks for the comment! Yes the DRO is a game changer!.. def not aimed towards metal use.
Main bearing has massive slop impossible to drill an accurate hole
@@paulmeynell8866 I used it to drill a 0.5 mm hole through a 1 mm round metal shaft. Came out centered within 0.05 mm. I wouldn't call that rubbish.
@@a0flj0 you must have gotten a good one , seems like they have a lot with cheap Chinese bearings
@@paulmeynell8866 I got mine already a few years back. Play in the axle was my biggest concern. It is there, but somehow the machine still manages to work rather well.
I have one. Its' brilliant!
Good looking tool
That wheel needs a "love knob".......:) easy fix. My guess is this is a light duty, model builder for soft materials.
8:48 just get a steering wheel ball spinner/knob
Great idea!!
Just buy a steering wheel knob that most tractors have
Great idea!!
Hah, mine didn't have the acrylic protection screen. I've absolutely abused the crap out of mine, to the point that it was literally dancing accross the table with a wonky piece of wood that I completely lost control of 😂 think I still have a recording
Alloy base plate ? Would not bother after seeing that ! cheap construction!
Dropping that forsner bit out of the chuck made me cringe.
Yes, it sure did! I would of edited it out, but wanted to be authentic, so show now I have a blunt bit 😂
This drill press has very wobbly chuck mount. A nightmare. There are some videos about replacing internal bushing in pilar to a better quality one (a lot of work to do that).
Is that an aluminum base?
Correct
How much the price of kyats
You almost got the obligatory thumbs down for a 2010 style unboxing video, but you only wasted like 3 seconds unpacking it. Thank you 😂
Don't like the aluminium bed, very easy to scratch and score. Promised myself along time ago that would be a deal breaker for me.
Yeah! The only benefit is that it’s light as a feather, good for a small workshop
It's not very accurate, there's a lot of chuck/spindle wobble, and the handwheel is inconvenient and clumsy to use. That being said, it's not bad at all for woodworking, when you need to drill big components on a flat surface, and 0.1 mm accuracy isn't so important.
Thanks for the comment, that’s basically what I need it for 0.1 doesn’t affect my needs.
😂 it is not chuckless. It has a chuck to hold the bit. It is however, keyless. Suggest owners swop out the chuck to a keyed chuck for more secured fastening.