I appreciate the sub24 it really is a popular niche in dark and darker that no other content creator bothers to explore. New player like me in this wipe are constantly looks for guides for beginner lobbies but all I see is 200+ gear builds occasionally very rarely 124+. I'm a new player trying to improve my mechanical skills how would i even be able get there, I understanding saving and buying the kits but i'm trying not to donate my gear to better players alright i wanna git good before I hit those lobbies and there are simply no sub content 24.
I’ve been doing this build with hide mastery instead of jokester in under 124 and over. Been very good as u can get the burst dmg faster with hide mastery over and over while u widow then down with poison. Such a fun build
I have been cooking druids on duos with Cutthroat... prock their dream walk with a handcrossy or dagger and push with cutthroat to silence as soon as they come out of dream walk usually gets the job done.
Great video its cool to see another rogue player come to similar conclusions, i play rogue this way as well so it was awesome to get some confirmation of sorts. Of course you should just go ahead and make under 24 videos for all classes, but I personally would like to see an expansion on this rogue video for high lobbies.
if you dont have/dont want to be the ugly lizard skin you could also use the shadow mask and go shirtless with blue darkleaf boots, idk how much worse it really is but you get some strength at least and female human rogue has pretty hair :)
I’m also interested in your take on bard under 24 gs. I prioritize dex but I’m not strong enough it feels, I go strength and playing music is too slow. Rapier with rapier mastery never never actually feels right for me. I’ve seen some people mention using a rondel, but I’ve been using an arming sword and it’s been okay. I’d love to see a video on that. Obviously higher gear I do way better, but when I wanna mess around under 24 it’s pretty tough
one class that would really benefit of a vid like this is druid as without scalling you lose to a bard or cleric even in bear form and all you can is do is run away
Bear Druid is additionally painful for Rogues in the sense that any sensible Druid will run Thorn Coat, meaning every stab means 5 true damage to you, which adds up quickly. Even if the Bear Druid is terrible and gives you ample opportunity to stab him, he will have high PDR while you are taking tons of damage by stabbing him. Means the only real option you got is to poison, kite, run, poison, get him low enough for him to panic and then either opportunity kill him or wait out his inevitable rat transform into poison death.
@@trozers actually not really. Any damage bear takes is basically 50-60% reduction of both physical and magical damage, so even rupture will deliver very small amount of damage. You can try to kite bear with a rapier, but its unless you aren't cornered, because it will mean a death sentence, and if you do not have rapier, then you are pretty much screwed. So, the only actual way to deal with druids is mosquito playstyle, but even then, its very much of a stalemate. You can't go melee with druid because you will get obliterated, and druid cannot reach you to be honest, if you punish their panther form by dagger, and their heal will always be better than your damage, so, it will last until someone gives up and just leaves.
I've been spamming rogue and barb for a long while and I always love min maxing the low level kits :P, gonna try out the hybrid build but replace ambush with hide as that is feeling kinda dope for me atm!
Where are you getting the extra Will point? Rogue is 10 base Will. Darkleaf will put you to 12 Will. Where did you get the extra Will point? I found the err. In the "What to build" part you say wear strength gloves but in game you are wearing leather gloves which would be the only way you are hitting 15 Will. ;) Also Common Loose Trousers will not lower your MS so you could wear those for the little extra PDR :)
Good tip with the loose trousers. Without finding gear in raid, you will likely have below 15 will and 15 strength, but the goal is to get as close as possible. I think the strength is more importance, hence the str gloves. But leather gloves are a viable alternative.
the intro alone got you a sub lol (also what is it with dark and darker content creators and runescape music? Are we all fellow runescape addicts?! also also, the guy at 9:12 saw the last few particles of your invis smoke)
The exact video I've been looking for forever. Can't wait to see if my build is any similar. I legit take tumble loool Ok, so like I assumed the dagger perks were just too good not to take. Perhaps I'm wrong. This is the exact build I wanted to try but thought daggers were too OP not to use. Or rapier not doing enough damage when ambushing. Cant wait to try. Also you're the first person I've seen who said to use darkleaf boots. Are they new to the game or something? They're so good
Dagger master becomes better at high gear. Low gear, I think jokester is better. Stiletto is good. Hide mastery is also a decent option, as discussed in the video.
i know sometimes you gotta play ball, but i pray for the day a UA-camr doesn’t tell me to subscribe at the start of the video. (im being pedantic) >:) edit. I subbed.
End match up list: everything counters rogue unless rogue gets the jump on them. Good video. I love rogue even if they nerfed him into the ground. I'll just have fun playing the weakest class. Thanks for the video
I came here for the build. Stayed for the matrix scene. Subbed for the amazing Hotline Miami soundtrack on gameplay.
Glad to see a man of culture.
yo that under 24 guide for bard would be fire. Great video bro.
+1 to this, I am garbage at Bard and need that guide
+1
I agree please release the u24 Bard guide
I appreciate the sub24 it really is a popular niche in dark and darker that no other content creator bothers to explore. New player like me in this wipe are constantly looks for guides for beginner lobbies but all I see is 200+ gear builds occasionally very rarely 124+. I'm a new player trying to improve my mechanical skills how would i even be able get there, I understanding saving and buying the kits but i'm trying not to donate my gear to better players alright i wanna git good before I hit those lobbies and there are simply no sub content 24.
I’ve been doing this build with hide mastery instead of jokester in under 124 and over. Been very good as u can get the burst dmg faster with hide mastery over and over while u widow then down with poison. Such a fun build
ngl I had already been doing this but the darkleaf boots and the lizard skin recommendations were a huge plus! TY for the inspo
Yes Bard guide please!! Im loving Bard but struggling
I have been cooking druids on duos with Cutthroat... prock their dream walk with a handcrossy or dagger and push with cutthroat to silence as soon as they come out of dream walk usually gets the job done.
Great video its cool to see another rogue player come to similar conclusions, i play rogue this way as well so it was awesome to get some confirmation of sorts. Of course you should just go ahead and make under 24 videos for all classes, but I personally would like to see an expansion on this rogue video for high lobbies.
if you dont have/dont want to be the ugly lizard skin you could also use the shadow mask and go shirtless with blue darkleaf boots, idk how much worse it really is but you get some strength at least and female human rogue has pretty hair :)
The main issue is you'll need to make up for the lost armor by wearing pants and a shirt which will slow you down by about 6ms.
under 24 help. thank you for making this video. you are the man! keep it up!
Great video holy shhh, I am impressed W content my guy
got my sub with the matrix scene... lfg
I’m also interested in your take on bard under 24 gs. I prioritize dex but I’m not strong enough it feels, I go strength and playing music is too slow. Rapier with rapier mastery never never actually feels right for me. I’ve seen some people mention using a rondel, but I’ve been using an arming sword and it’s been okay. I’d love to see a video on that. Obviously higher gear I do way better, but when I wanna mess around under 24 it’s pretty tough
100% the fighter at 9:12 came around the corner as your hide mirage particles were just disappearing
one class that would really benefit of a vid like this is druid as without scalling you lose to a bard or cleric even in bear form and all you can is do is run away
I don't think you can make druid "OP" in under 24, lol. But I could definitely make an OP 124 build for Druid.
@@trozers go for it as most druid builds are over that line
@@trozers you can hit 23-24 strength if you buy ox pendant or copperlight pants
The intro itself was worth a sub
give me the red pill so I can show it down my duo's gullet
Bear Druid is additionally painful for Rogues in the sense that any sensible Druid will run Thorn Coat, meaning every stab means 5 true damage to you, which adds up quickly. Even if the Bear Druid is terrible and gives you ample opportunity to stab him, he will have high PDR while you are taking tons of damage by stabbing him. Means the only real option you got is to poison, kite, run, poison, get him low enough for him to panic and then either opportunity kill him or wait out his inevitable rat transform into poison death.
Yeah, bleeding the bear out with throwing knifes and hand crossbow bolts is the way to beat it.
@@trozers actually not really. Any damage bear takes is basically 50-60% reduction of both physical and magical damage, so even rupture will deliver very small amount of damage. You can try to kite bear with a rapier, but its unless you aren't cornered, because it will mean a death sentence, and if you do not have rapier, then you are pretty much screwed. So, the only actual way to deal with druids is mosquito playstyle, but even then, its very much of a stalemate. You can't go melee with druid because you will get obliterated, and druid cannot reach you to be honest, if you punish their panther form by dagger, and their heal will always be better than your damage, so, it will last until someone gives up and just leaves.
Trozers single handedly increasing the darkleaf boots stock
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@@trozers been running this for the last few hours chillin in
@@MrGodPowered Awesome, I'm glad to hear it!
I've been spamming rogue and barb for a long while and I always love min maxing the low level kits :P, gonna try out the hybrid build but replace ambush with hide as that is feeling kinda dope for me atm!
thx for the vid, we need the under 124 rogue now plz
Yay barbarian runs as fast as rogue. Give us back 30 agi
Where are you getting the extra Will point? Rogue is 10 base Will. Darkleaf will put you to 12 Will. Where did you get the extra Will point? I found the err. In the "What to build" part you say wear strength gloves but in game you are wearing leather gloves which would be the only way you are hitting 15 Will. ;) Also Common Loose Trousers will not lower your MS so you could wear those for the little extra PDR :)
Good tip with the loose trousers. Without finding gear in raid, you will likely have below 15 will and 15 strength, but the goal is to get as close as possible. I think the strength is more importance, hence the str gloves. But leather gloves are a viable alternative.
Good video, maybe exchange the dubstep for something more relaxing?
double jump on ruins imo
Definitely a good option if you know how to abuse the vertical aspects of the map.
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the intro alone got you a sub lol (also what is it with dark and darker content creators and runescape music? Are we all fellow runescape addicts?! also also, the guy at 9:12 saw the last few particles of your invis smoke)
I think most of us are young adults who grew up playing Runescape. It's also so fitting as they are both medieval fantasy games.
The exact video I've been looking for forever. Can't wait to see if my build is any similar. I legit take tumble loool
Ok, so like I assumed the dagger perks were just too good not to take. Perhaps I'm wrong. This is the exact build I wanted to try but thought daggers were too OP not to use. Or rapier not doing enough damage when ambushing. Cant wait to try.
Also you're the first person I've seen who said to use darkleaf boots. Are they new to the game or something? They're so good
Is jokester better than dagger mastery? Also what are your thoughts on the stiletto dagger? And thoughts on hide mastery? Is it troll
Dagger master becomes better at high gear. Low gear, I think jokester is better. Stiletto is good. Hide mastery is also a decent option, as discussed in the video.
what perks and skills would u do on higher gear or does this work?
This does work in higher gear, but there are a few changes. I may make a video discussing that in the future :)
What about wearing shadow mask for head piece?
Grey shadow mask is lackluster. Lizard is better imo because it gives enough armor to no longer need pants or a chest. +6 movespeed saved there.
i know sometimes you gotta play ball, but i pray for the day a UA-camr doesn’t tell me to subscribe at the start of the video. (im being pedantic) >:)
edit. I subbed.
Same I'm more likely to sub when people don't do that. However, pretty sure he gets more subs BY doing that unfortunately.
9:16 esp for sure
Do 124 rogues
End match up list: everything counters rogue unless rogue gets the jump on them.
Good video. I love rogue even if they nerfed him into the ground. I'll just have fun playing the weakest class. Thanks for the video
Nerf rogue
I wish I could do this. All I see are magic spammers.