It would be so cool if, when the dirty city was complete, you tried to eliminate all the pollution, go completely solar, put trees everywhere and make-over everything to be super pretty and clean!
James really has a great aesthetic style and eye for detail. It's something he's worked on over the years, and you can really see it in his sims builds if you compare today to a few years ago. I really appreciate it because I'm trying to learn as well
@@GrijzePilion, he is a seasoned entertainer. I sense that he has a keen eye for his product (just like in the games), and tries very hard to find a good balance of gameplay versus skipping the boring parts. I feel like he's always trying to post a polished chunk of entertainment.
James, industry demand really is broken. Sam Bur made a video about it. He thought it's an actual issue in the game but it's not. Watch his video or, rather read the comments below. You may run into the same issues again when you build some more industry from the new pack.
Removed a lot of mods, but used the fixed version of TMPE that someone other than the orginal guy did. Then the demand issue was solved. But today when i resubbed the official TMPE, since it was now updated, i ran in to the same old demand issue. For me it is completely clear that TMPE is the culprit, even in its newly updated state. But as i said, the fixed version of TMPE that another guy did, works. If it is a setting in TMPE that messes up everything or what the difference is between the fixed version some guy made, and the official updated version of TMPE, i dont know, but .... well, there you go! Contrary to what i thought before, the loading screen mod was working as well along the fixed version of TMPE.
TL;DR: Thanks for playing this mostly in real time without infinite funds. I tried your friend two dollar twnety's videos on your recommendation, and while I can see that he puts in an amazing amount of time and effort to create beautiful and varied cities, really showing off what can be achieved in C:S, I just find myself unable to get into a series that treats it as a piece of art, running (not playing) with infinite money and everything unlocked. What I like watching is the growth of a city with real constraints and trade-offs, some sense of drama over whether it will survive or go hopelessly bankrupt, what problems will be encountered along the way and how will they be overcome. I like it running for the most part in real time, maybe a few edits or fast motion sections, but not the entire video. With commentary along the way with what the creator was thinking as they were doing it. The other experience is like watching a fast motion 30 minute video of 6 months of an excellent artist's work, which is impressive but a completely different experience - one which isn't for me!
That’s the issue with highlighting a new dlc. They expect you to build a city as normal, not just building a ton of industry right off the bat. I love the city! Something seems to be running weird in the back ground.
@@morganseppy5180 Most youtuber just make loops one clockwise other anti-clockwise but in the game as well as in the real world the way James made the bus line is perfect. start at one single point, stops almost every other block or two blocks do small end of line loop and return back on the same alignment, try to crisscross lines with each other so that people can transfer from one line to another. Same goes for Trams and Metro/Subway. if roads have a higher number of buses use bus lanes. or bus-only roads.
I did notice that he purposely leaves room for train(/bus?) lines, just like city planners and developers do. I love that he strives for things that make sense.
@@morganseppy5180 he is the only one who genuinely plays the game rest of them make this a showpiece, and he has improved so much I learned to make complicated road systems from him all of the cities are very generic they don't feel like they are purpose built or designed the specific way and he doesn't diss his viewers who suggest him ways to improve.
Prabhanjan Kulkarni tbf Conflictnerd Dylan also plays the game to the same level of modding/assets and doesnt create showcases. Only difference is that dylan simply isnt as good at the game. Also on the topic of people only making showcase cities, two dollars twenty who normally does that is doing a series where he is actually playing the game. Its worth watching
1:48 i also recently had that problem, i think it’s because of traffic manager not being updated yet, but i’m not sure Also: 2:16 you made these cul-de-sacs way back in your first or second city, but didnt like the idea so you abandoned it
Traffic manager does brake some game mechanism, like tolls and cargo airport, but like a day ago the mod had an update, I'm playing with traffic manager on and for me demand is fine.
Crashes can happen because of any combination of mods. The only thing I heard about Traffic Manager and this DLC was that toll booths weren't generating money, but that was fixed quickly. The reddit community is always there if you want more details about mods and their possible issues :)
i really like this city so far, it’s a really good & realistic imitation of industrial Canadian & American cities that were built around freight train lines. it’s nice to see a change from the usual luxury/tourist city that people often build in this game. for the sewage pipe, put one in that other river that isn’t polluted yet and just have one where you have them now so that it doesn’t flood all the time.
If you want to make a lot more money enable the "small business enthusiast" and "big business benefactor" policies citywide, you can find them at the top of the "City Planning" tab :-)
There are a few rail car props in the workshop that you can add to those little rail yards which really improve the look, especially as a dirty industrial area, there are always random rail cars sitting in different places.
Any kind of demand in this game is caused by a surplus supply in the previous step in the industrial supply chain. For example, if you have a heap of specialised industry, no matter the amount of commercial to sell the goods, the industry is being demanded as specialised industrial goods have to pass through regular industry before distributing to commercial retailers. I believe your "Industry Demand" works in correlation to the Specialised industry supply, and when Specialised supply>Regular Industry Demand, Regular industry Demand will have a need to grow until it meets the specialised industry supply. When given industrial supply and demand is at equilibrium, you will find quite the domino effect, meaning that as a result commercial industry will then uncontrollably skyrocket like you are experiencing now for industry.
*NAME SUGGESTIONS* Areas of the City name Ideas: Sagewick Northwheat Southweat Redmere (Red-Myre) Dravendale East Violet West Violet Bryvlyn Mt. Collanik Ft. Ashway Bridge Name Ideas: Sagewick Central Bridge Ashton Bridge Severine Bridge Wentwell Bridge Allowick Bridge Highway Name Ideas: Salisbury Highway Cumberland Highway Ashton Highway Liverton Underpass Bryvlyn Highway Tarple Highway Broadsen Highway Neighborhood Name Ideas: Plymouth Manor Blyspruce Glen Kinsbridge Park East Gardens
Hey James! Oscar Street doesn’t connect to your main road right before the bridge! It happens at 8:24 in Part One and you can see it at 8:46 in this episode 🤗
Is it an idea to maybe add the occasional cornershop to residential areas? You always zone massive commercial areas but realistically there'd be little cornershops peppering the suburbs n stuff. Just an idea i'm curious to see :) Loving the dirty gritty aspect of this city, i actually enjoy imperfect stuff like this so much xD keep up the awesome content!
You should excessively put concrete surface paint everywhere! That's the grossest thing I can imagine in a city :P Also I think that the bus stops are too close, you could just look at the green smiley faces when you place a bus stop and that indicates the diameter of that stop so you could put another stop where the previous stop wouldn't reach...
I've heard from Conflictnerd that the demand is broken and that when you have a specialized zone like mining and farms that it doesn't add to the actual industry tab so you will always have a large amount of industry demand; just balance it better.
>INDUSTRIAL DEMAND KEEPS GOING UP BUT MY CURRENT POPULATION ISN'T FILLING THE JOBS THAT ALREADY EXIST >WELP BETTER MAKE MORE INDUSTRIAL Is flab okay? He is showing the same symptoms my uncle showed before he had a stroke.
You should make tiny park areas for all your sidewalk connections that charge the citizens to use it. You will be flooded with income from all the citizens that use it!!
You should make it a tiered city so in the middle where the industry is, the city is filthy and it gradually gets cleaner until it’s a green city at the edge of the city
Random prisons in residential areas are the best, in my city the prison is close to the university and behind the central station, it looks weird but it's quite amusing.
A succinct encapsulation of present-day ideology: "... so that's going to go right in the middle of the residential area and that's going to educate quite a decent amount of people, hopefully not too many tee hee.... we dont want that. We dont want some sort of uprising here." [edit]: Also perfectly aligned with Two Dollar Twenty's continual narrative justification for poverty in his Springwood series.
This city is more and more looking like where I live if most of the industry was replaced with farms. But factories in the middle of the city with housing really close and the prison right in the middle of a neighborhood just like home
does anyone know what the maintenance cost actually does on the transportation mod. If you put it at 1.00 or 10000.00 it does not affect the profitability of the service.
about money: set your warehouses on "empty", as i've noticed that on "balanced" mode they usually tend to import goods spending a lot of money about industry demands: i dont' really think it's a broken mod, as i've got that issue both in vanilla and modded game
Heres an idea for you, make 2 different areas one more industrial and one more built up like upper class type. With schools good looking houses etc etc. Working class vs upper class
*James choosing colours for bus lines* Me: he's gonna forget to copy the colour code James: i should just copy the colour code Me: every.single.time We've been here for 6 cities after all, dear Semaj 🤣
Not sure if anyone mentioned yet. But I had mad not industry enough buyers yet stacks of commercial with not enough products. I figured out that plopped industry is just like normal specialized but in park mode and you still need Generic Industry to buy from it, convert to goods and send to commercial. Factories are essentially small production high value Generic Industry converting specialized to buyables. Not to mention scattered specialized district withing industry zoned district. So.... factories can't fulfill demand for buying and reselling so you need generic. However, game is 100% broken for sure. It will take from one side of map to complete other for no reason when you have made supplies next door. It will import form across the world while you have a warehouse next door exporting 40 trucks. It's just screwed and I quit playing until they fix it. My city is dope, but the AI is 100% wrong. Very poor quality game.
The mine it so small :( And you shooth the area because is small. You should build more parks and more stuff. You should build more mine. And so more of poeple.
Not to be mean, but could you be a bigger snob? People who work in industries are not illiterate boobs who can't tie their shoes. It's fine to make dirtier roads in dusty industrial areas, but the people who work there can afford grass in their yards. Please lessen your condescending tone. Everyone who works to make the products that Amazon sells are not trailer trash.
It would be so cool if, when the dirty city was complete, you tried to eliminate all the pollution, go completely solar, put trees everywhere and make-over everything to be super pretty and clean!
Everything could be terrible, except transportation -- this is Flabaliki, and that is the reason why I like his series of gameplay.
I love how much attention he pays to his railways. People underestimate how important it is to have good-looking railways in a city.
James really has a great aesthetic style and eye for detail. It's something he's worked on over the years, and you can really see it in his sims builds if you compare today to a few years ago. I really appreciate it because I'm trying to learn as well
He doesn't rush his builds, nor get lost in minor details. Keeps the workflow going, while still keeping it interesting.
@@GrijzePilion, he is a seasoned entertainer. I sense that he has a keen eye for his product (just like in the games), and tries very hard to find a good balance of gameplay versus skipping the boring parts. I feel like he's always trying to post a polished chunk of entertainment.
James, industry demand really is broken. Sam Bur made a video about it. He thought it's an actual issue in the game but it's not. Watch his video or, rather read the comments below.
You may run into the same issues again when you build some more industry from the new pack.
Removed a lot of mods, but used the fixed version of TMPE that someone other than the orginal guy did. Then the demand issue was solved. But today when i resubbed the official TMPE, since it was now updated, i ran in to the same old demand issue. For me it is completely clear that TMPE is the culprit, even in its newly updated state. But as i said, the fixed version of TMPE that another guy did, works. If it is a setting in TMPE that messes up everything or what the difference is between the fixed version some guy made, and the official updated version of TMPE, i dont know, but .... well, there you go! Contrary to what i thought before, the loading screen mod was working as well along the fixed version of TMPE.
Would be rather strange that TMPE causes this behaviour because it does not touch the demand code...
I know, but thats what i got.
Adam Mane yeah industries definitely has some major bugs that colossal needs to fix
i played with regular housing, blue commercial and all new stuff for industries and everything worked for me, demand is not broken
This city is so horrible to life, dirty, low educating, NOT beautiful, and thats the reason why i like this series.
its so dirty and rough
This city looks like every small to medium sized town in Midwestern America. +1 for capturing that aesthetic.
It's so funny to me that your skylines series' went from one all about clean energy and parks to one about killing the world as much as possible
You can use the school out thing for every district. I believe it makes it that less people continue in school.
TL;DR: Thanks for playing this mostly in real time without infinite funds.
I tried your friend two dollar twnety's videos on your recommendation, and while I can see that he puts in an amazing amount of time and effort to create beautiful and varied cities, really showing off what can be achieved in C:S, I just find myself unable to get into a series that treats it as a piece of art, running (not playing) with infinite money and everything unlocked. What I like watching is the growth of a city with real constraints and trade-offs, some sense of drama over whether it will survive or go hopelessly bankrupt, what problems will be encountered along the way and how will they be overcome. I like it running for the most part in real time, maybe a few edits or fast motion sections, but not the entire video. With commentary along the way with what the creator was thinking as they were doing it. The other experience is like watching a fast motion 30 minute video of 6 months of an excellent artist's work, which is impressive but a completely different experience - one which isn't for me!
I really like how different this city is from all your previous ones!
James, you're the one who invented the little thing on the end of streets! I remember you did that years ago but you also said you didn't like it lol
Damn, he didn't mention the Troll Toll to get into the Ore Hole.
That’s the issue with highlighting a new dlc. They expect you to build a city as normal, not just building a ton of industry right off the bat. I love the city! Something seems to be running weird in the back ground.
Dammit James you got me hooked to watching these series and I don’t even play the game lol
First time seen a CS yt do the bus lines right. thanks mate:)
I'm new to the game, so how do you mean?
@@morganseppy5180 Most youtuber just make loops one clockwise other anti-clockwise but in the game as well as in the real world the way James made the bus line is perfect. start at one single point, stops almost every other block or two blocks do small end of line loop and return back on the same alignment, try to crisscross lines with each other so that people can transfer from one line to another. Same goes for Trams and Metro/Subway.
if roads have a higher number of buses use bus lanes. or bus-only roads.
I did notice that he purposely leaves room for train(/bus?) lines, just like city planners and developers do. I love that he strives for things that make sense.
@@morganseppy5180 he is the only one who genuinely plays the game rest of them make this a showpiece, and he has improved so much I learned to make complicated road systems from him all of the cities are very generic they don't feel like they are purpose built or designed the specific way and he doesn't diss his viewers who suggest him ways to improve.
Prabhanjan Kulkarni tbf Conflictnerd Dylan also plays the game to the same level of modding/assets and doesnt create showcases. Only difference is that dylan simply isnt as good at the game. Also on the topic of people only making showcase cities, two dollars twenty who normally does that is doing a series where he is actually playing the game. Its worth watching
1:48 i also recently had that problem, i think it’s because of traffic manager not being updated yet, but i’m not sure
Also: 2:16 you made these cul-de-sacs way back in your first or second city, but didnt like the idea so you abandoned it
Traffic manager does brake some game mechanism, like tolls and cargo airport, but like a day ago the mod had an update, I'm playing with traffic manager on and for me demand is fine.
Ki. Vi. I’m talking about the crash he had, traffic manager has been updated the day before yesterday, but he probably recorded it before that
Crashes can happen because of any combination of mods. The only thing I heard about Traffic Manager and this DLC was that toll booths weren't generating money, but that was fixed quickly. The reddit community is always there if you want more details about mods and their possible issues :)
i really like this city so far, it’s a really good & realistic imitation of industrial Canadian & American cities that were built around freight train lines. it’s nice to see a change from the usual luxury/tourist city that people often build in this game.
for the sewage pipe, put one in that other river that isn’t polluted yet and just have one where you have them now so that it doesn’t flood all the time.
If you want to make a lot more money enable the "small business enthusiast" and "big business benefactor" policies citywide, you can find them at the top of the "City Planning" tab :-)
Also, turn up the price on the toll boths
Watching your videos is my morning routine ☕
I watch on my lunch break--really gets me away from work so I can go back refreshed.
Put like 1 police station so the crime is high and the city will really be like Detroit!
Make sure the Industrial has a quick way out of the city. I remember you disconnected and outside connection, make sure you connected it back.
we do actually have a prison smack bang centre in a residential area in my city! it's called 'de koepel'
Hope no one breaks out of the prison and terrorizes everyone in that residential neighborhood behind it 😂
All the residences are criminals anyway.
There are a few rail car props in the workshop that you can add to those little rail yards which really improve the look, especially as a dirty industrial area, there are always random rail cars sitting in different places.
Any kind of demand in this game is caused by a surplus supply in the previous step in the industrial supply chain. For example, if you have a heap of specialised industry, no matter the amount of commercial to sell the goods, the industry is being demanded as specialised industrial goods have to pass through regular industry before distributing to commercial retailers. I believe your "Industry Demand" works in correlation to the Specialised industry supply, and when Specialised supply>Regular Industry Demand, Regular industry Demand will have a need to grow until it meets the specialised industry supply. When given industrial supply and demand is at equilibrium, you will find quite the domino effect, meaning that as a result commercial industry will then uncontrollably skyrocket like you are experiencing now for industry.
Since the map is based off Japan with all the mountains, the tunnels work with that anyway
As a Dutch person I am really offended by the way you handle the flooding of the river
As a Dutch person, i am really offended for no clear reason at all
*NAME SUGGESTIONS*
Areas of the City name Ideas:
Sagewick
Northwheat
Southweat
Redmere (Red-Myre)
Dravendale
East Violet
West Violet
Bryvlyn
Mt. Collanik
Ft. Ashway
Bridge Name Ideas:
Sagewick Central Bridge
Ashton Bridge
Severine Bridge
Wentwell Bridge
Allowick Bridge
Highway Name Ideas:
Salisbury Highway
Cumberland Highway
Ashton Highway
Liverton Underpass
Bryvlyn Highway
Tarple Highway
Broadsen Highway
Neighborhood Name Ideas:
Plymouth Manor
Blyspruce Glen
Kinsbridge Park
East Gardens
Hey James! Oscar Street doesn’t connect to your main road right before the bridge! It happens at 8:24 in Part One and you can see it at 8:46 in this episode 🤗
Is it an idea to maybe add the occasional cornershop to residential areas? You always zone massive commercial areas but realistically there'd be little cornershops peppering the suburbs n stuff. Just an idea i'm curious to see :) Loving the dirty gritty aspect of this city, i actually enjoy imperfect stuff like this so much xD keep up the awesome content!
You should excessively put concrete surface paint everywhere! That's the grossest thing I can imagine in a city :P
Also I think that the bus stops are too close, you could just look at the green smiley faces when you place a bus stop and that indicates the diameter of that stop so you could put another stop where the previous stop wouldn't reach...
I would love to live in your city. My town is full of traffic problems.
So we have Dirtroit here and Teatroit with Biffa... it'll be so easy to tell the two apart!
I've heard from Conflictnerd that the demand is broken and that when you have a specialized zone like mining and farms that it doesn't add to the actual industry tab so you will always have a large amount of industry demand; just balance it better.
I saw the same video by $2.20 with the cool little road trick too!
I actually really like this dirty city!!!
i played with regular housing, blue commercial and all new stuff for industries and everything worked for me, demand is not broken
>INDUSTRIAL DEMAND KEEPS GOING UP BUT MY CURRENT POPULATION ISN'T FILLING THE JOBS THAT ALREADY EXIST
>WELP BETTER MAKE MORE INDUSTRIAL
Is flab okay? He is showing the same symptoms my uncle showed before he had a stroke.
I think a couple of japan city map, river front is too low, so always flooded
You should build small mountain neighborhoods
You should put the school's out policy on, so they don't get educated too fast.
Reminds me of a depressed Winnipeg
Dirtroit is a bloody amazing name.
This city reminds me a lot of some New Jersey community. Only difference is the landscape lol
Instead of an underground subway make an elevated one using the metro overhaul mod like in Chicago or Brooklyn
You should make tiny park areas for all your sidewalk connections that charge the citizens to use it. You will be flooded with income from all the citizens that use it!!
Maidstone prison in the UK is in a residential area so yours is perfectly acceptable where it is
You should make it a tiered city so in the middle where the industry is, the city is filthy and it gradually gets cleaner until it’s a green city at the edge of the city
Random prisons in residential areas are the best, in my city the prison is close to the university and behind the central station, it looks weird but it's quite amusing.
Resource zoned industry, placed off of resources will refine the raw stuff, it may help with your demand and provide more exports?
But yes industry demand is kinda broken with the new buildings
A succinct encapsulation of present-day ideology: "... so that's going to go right in the middle of the residential area and that's going to educate quite a decent amount of people, hopefully not too many tee hee.... we dont want that. We dont want some sort of uprising here."
[edit]: Also perfectly aligned with Two Dollar Twenty's continual narrative justification for poverty in his Springwood series.
Awesome James really like the map your using, are there no tunnelmod on the workshop everyone could really use one.
This city is more and more looking like where I live if most of the industry was replaced with farms. But factories in the middle of the city with housing really close and the prison right in the middle of a neighborhood just like home
aren't you supposed to work more on the individual factories? or is it just an option now?
Have you considered getting the Metro overhaul mod for your Metro? It would make the city look even more Industrial in my opinion
Your city, with its three rivers, is just like Pittsburgh, a famous industrial city.
does anyone know what the maintenance cost actually does on the transportation mod. If you put it at 1.00 or 10000.00 it does not affect the profitability of the service.
Why do you zone so much low density residential, it tends to look suburban. wouldn't high density look more industrial?
about money: set your warehouses on "empty", as i've noticed that on "balanced" mode they usually tend to import goods spending a lot of money
about industry demands: i dont' really think it's a broken mod, as i've got that issue both in vanilla and modded game
This really reminds me of my actual real life city and...yikes. Lmao. But it's amazing to watch!!
I would love to actually see some aspects of the DLC.
Love your cities skylines series!!
I could watch hours of this... stream it!!
Heres an idea for you, make 2 different areas one more industrial and one more built up like upper class type. With schools good looking houses etc etc. Working class vs upper class
Download the Metro Overhaul Mod, it would be perfect for this kind of city!
Put a wall on the river, to help with flooding
you should use these large power lines
What is the mod he uses on the left side of the screen to change elevation levels of roads? Thanks
It's called the Move-it mod. Super useful
I've always wondered this but could someone tell me what the bird at the top is?
LagSpikeAnarchist it’s a way for the citizens to give the builder feedback and requests
You need storage warehouses to keep all you goods
are u going to make a downtown in this city james
*James choosing colours for bus lines*
Me: he's gonna forget to copy the colour code
James: i should just copy the colour code
Me: every.single.time
We've been here for 6 cities after all, dear Semaj 🤣
@Flabaliki
you should make your city run on power power only.
"Dirttroit" im weak😂😂
Can you make a city with no cars? So your only link to the outside map is a train station and all your city streets are separate to the highways?
Why would the prop it up mod not work for me? Any ideas?
Maybe do a separate town for super educated workers while the rest have the schools out policy.
Not sure if anyone mentioned yet.
But I had mad not industry enough buyers yet stacks of commercial with not enough products.
I figured out that plopped industry is just like normal specialized but in park mode and you still need Generic Industry to buy from it, convert to goods and send to commercial.
Factories are essentially small production high value Generic Industry converting specialized to buyables. Not to mention scattered specialized district withing industry zoned district.
So.... factories can't fulfill demand for buying and reselling so you need generic.
However, game is 100% broken for sure. It will take from one side of map to complete other for no reason when you have made supplies next door. It will import form across the world while you have a warehouse next door exporting 40 trucks.
It's just screwed and I quit playing until they fix it. My city is dope, but the AI is 100% wrong. Very poor quality game.
Yes
When I hear how bad the citizens are treated*first time* * clutches fists in anger for the citizens*
Is the road that you're first using vanilla?
He said in the first episode it came with the industry expansion pack
Change the name to Filth-adelphia
Is there a mod list?
The problem in this city are the roads, you can’t park on them there is no easy way for people to leave their car when going to work
Wouldn't you have this oil plant's up on a hill?
HEY DETROIT!!
What happened to the bus line at 20:18 lol? Cross country bussing
Traffic Manager bugs out tollbooths. They don't work with the mod on.
I spent half an hour fixing a round about on vanilla then clicked load instead of save
Flabaliki, your a bit funny guy :)
Sounds a lot like Derptroid xD …?
Make a green area in the future. Try to use all of the DLCs it would be cool
Suttle flex about two dollars twenty? ;)
Dirtroit. I'm from Detroit 😑
James can u play hearts of iron?
The mine it so small :( And you shooth the area because is small.
You should build more parks and more stuff.
You should build more mine.
And so more of poeple.
And you should build like a mayor.
And is hard to get so money.To build some more roads.
To make the pleace good.
just place schools and turn the budget down
I'm a banana!
I AM GOD
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Not to be mean, but could you be a bigger snob? People who work in industries are not illiterate boobs who can't tie their shoes. It's fine to make dirtier roads in dusty industrial areas, but the people who work there can afford grass in their yards. Please lessen your condescending tone. Everyone who works to make the products that Amazon sells are not trailer trash.