Just a tip, when setting fresh wire. To make sure you don’t jam or kink the wire while you load the hose you should always take the tip off and keep the MiG gun cord as straight as possible until it exits the gun, then reinstall the tip and cone. Sometimes the wire will catch inside the tip and birds nest or slip your rollers. Just to avoid head aches, what I was taught and have always done.
I have the same Lincoln 210MP machine and love it. Bought about a year ago. One note - when I first got the 210MP I tried the 120v plugged into my 20A outdoor outlet. The power tripped immediately every time I reset it. Problem was the GFI (or GFCI) breaker on my outdoor plug. That GFI is so sensitive that it won't handle the initial arc. So if you do try running the 210MP on 120v be sure to use a 'regular' outlet, not the GFI type (Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter). I now run it on 240v all the time and it is very smooth. Great welding machine, and I recommend it also.
A number of people report the blown circuits are a function of the 20amp circuit, not as much the GFI. Hook the welder up to a 30 amp circuit and you should be fine.
I bought a 210 MP used for a very good price. I love it! the previous owner had the settings all messed up. I just went back to factory settings and it is a beast!
Thank you, Keith. This is an excellent video presentation for a beginner like me. Your video provides the "right" pace, excellent video images, and simple explanations. I'm now ready to plug my new welder in & give it a "go."
Excellent presentation and answered all my questions about the MP210. No loud music, plain spoken and very informative. Good video closeups of the digital display. A++
Over in the U.K. I have a Kemppi Minarcmig made in Finland which is now a few years old. It is an inverter machine and can have a shoulder strap to carry it anywhere as it is so light. This is particularly useful if you use fluxcore wire and no gas. It is synergic so you only need to set the material thickness manually when it is in automatic mode. The machine itself automatically adjusts to the material and conditions instantly. It only does mig welding but the weld quality is consistantly more betterer than any other machine I have used (except my larger Kemppi Kempomat). Iwould love to try the latest Kemppi machines but they are very expensive of course. With the Minarcmig you can take it anywhere and be welding about ten seconds after you plug it in and attach the earth clamp. Kemppi also make the best tig welders, in fact it was they who solved the long-standing problem with tig welding.
Thanks for the review Keith. I'm thinking of replacing my old Lincoln weld pak 140 with one of these. The 140 is pretty limited (MIG and flux core only) so having one machine that does everything (with more power to boot) would be nice. One suggestion - when feeding the wire through the gun keep the MIG hose as straight as possible and remove the tip which you can put on after the wire comes out. Doing this can help prevent the wire from getting hung up in the gun hose and you'll know immediately if you have a too small nozzle since you won't be able to feed the wire through the hole when you attempt to screw it back on.
Brilliant review. By following this video, I’m sure a complete novice could get up and welding in no time at all. Can’t wait for the tig video. Thank you.
Lincoln would probably sell 100 or more of these garage packs if they let Keith publish the coupon code along with these unboxing videos. . Lincoln - are you listening/watching?????
kieth always remove your contact tip when your feeding wire down your mig whip. if you dont you could have a birds nest of wire jammed up in your drive rollers.
Keith, love your new Lincoln toys! I bought the Lincoln Square Wave 200 last year and it's a great supplement to my 10 year old Lincoln 180 Mig Welder. I have been looking to buy the 210MP Mig do to the added control features my SP-180t does not have. I am envious of your purchase. I stay true to Lincoln brands myself. See ya at Arnfest 2018 Chicagoland.
I've had a small Lincoln for years and I love it. I also have an ancient WW2 Hobart Bros. 6 cyl. Chrysler powered unit. It also works well. Great for repairs on Battleships or Tanks. I like your new machine. Waiting for a 1 year report.
Keith- Rule of thumb on all devices, especially hydraulic and gas lines- NEVER- partially attach a line to be "tightened later"- that is a recipe for disaster- if you forget, it looks tight, but is not-
yeah, check out a book by Carroll Smith..."Nuts, Bolts and Hardware"....ALWAYS tighten any hose/line fitting like you're gonna run it....you're not likely to wear out the fitting/s.
I learned my lesson as an apprentice mechanic decades ago- My first engine rebuild- got it all together after a full teardown and it ran perfect- started on the second turn. I was a proud teenager when the customer drove out the door. The next day we got a call- customer said the engine lost oil pressure and had a rattle. Yep- when I first drained the oil during the teardown I screwed the drain plug back into the pan by hand. After the rebuild I forgot and it looked tight, so it vibrated out after the customer drove it and he lost all his oil. I had to foot the bill for the second rebuild and I never forgot that lesson. Later when we were building and racing cars, I saw so many guys who would screw on an oil line by hand, and then forget to tighten it up and lose some really expensive motors- never again happened to me though.
Excellent Reply...thanks! In the 1970's I worked on some BIG machine tools, lots of hydraulic hoses and steel lines, 2,000 PSI, sometimes the assembly mechanics would forget to tighten the hoses due to having to climb a ladder and bring the 1-1/4" wrenches...So, as the Electronics Tech, I learned to ALWAYS check that stuff, ended up buying my own combo 1-1/4 wrench! or maybe it was 1-5/16"... I often think maybe automotive oil drain plugs should be safety wired, once worked in a diesel truck shop, when you changed the oil, you kept that drain plug in your hand if it wasn't in the motor! Those are very expensive engines to fix if you even start then for 5 seconds with no oil!! There were torque specs for those plugs too.
Watching this channel so long I’d assume Keith has a long list of projects in mind but I’d assume First project for the welder, building a welding cart.
I bought a Miller-Matic 200 in 1982....ran .035" and 44# spools, Lincoln...they were about $35 at that time, I just remember 3 spools was a tad over $100...in Oregon, no sales tax.
Had mine 3 years, does a great job other than routine wire feed block problems. It seems to me that Lincoln’s customer service has been made unnecessarily difficult.
these are built in Cleveland, Ohio. i live near the local welding shops on the east side, they sell miller and lincoln. they sy lincoln is more american made
kieth on your tube where your spool of wire slides on they is a little plastic tit that fits on your spool of wire to engage the spool to the drive tube. this keeps proper tention on your spool of wire then in the center of the tube is your spool tentioner knob to set a little drag on your spool so it dosent free wheel. hope this helps.
hi kieth great welder something i've not seen any of you guys do, either tig or mig,,,, i used to be a welder and on the bench as a gun holder, find a peice of tube that the id is large enough for the gun shroud fits snug, about 2 inches long and weld it just underneath the work surface on an angle like a holster to slide the shroud into, works brilliant and stores your torch safe from accidental arc
I just bought a Lincoln 210 and getting a lot of tips from these video's; well done guys! Question if anyone knows, will this model run all day on black 1.2mm T square tubing? Another question, does the computer offer metric display rather than imperial? Yes I can Google the conversion but just asking. Thanks fella's
I was looking at the Garage Pak last week at it was a little over $3k... Did u get a better price and if so, can you point me in the direction where I can get that deal? I know they had a rebate back in 2016 where you could get the garage pak for $1999.00 after rebate, but I can’t find that deal currently.... Thanks! Appreciate your videos!!!
Hello Yiur welder should have a spec plate or sticker on it .. this will answer your question Amps are cut in half when ran at 230 voltage per Ohms law.
The Lincoln data sheet for the 210MP states max current with 230v supply as 14.7 amps. So theoretically you could run a 20 amp breaker. I'd personally run a 30 amp breaker. Note that the receptacle needed is a NEMA 6-50R which is the standard "welder outlet" and, as you might guess, it's rated at 50 amps. So if you only run a 30 amp breaker upstream of a 50 amp receptacle be sure to clearly label the receptacle "WELDER ONLY". This is doubly important as it could be that in the near future somebody may try to plug an electric car into the receptacle. The danger with that is that the wiring from the breaker to the receptacle only needs to be 10 gauge for 30 amp service, while for a 50 amp draw like an electric car charger the wire needs to be 6 gauge I believe.
I am very new to welding and in the process of getting the Lincoln MIG 210 MP model. Your video was very informative. Where do you buy your .035 welding wire? Is Lincoln wire better to use in their products than other brands? Thanks for your advice.
Hello Sir I recently got a MP210 for a gift gonna inbox on my day off Thursday Why is it that you bought a Tig machine as well? If you can weld Tig with the MP210 by purchasing a $500 Tig option Just curious you didn’t buy a nice plasma cutter or something Thanks
Thanks, Keith. Do you think this would be a good welder to start out with? I'm the type of guy if I buy a cheap one I always regret it. It sure seems simple to learn on.
I own this machine, and I am a newbie. That said I read many reviews on it, basically saying it is very good at mig and arc, and not a bad machine to start doing tig, can't tig aluminum, and that makes no difference to me at this time.
Check back with your local welding supplier and lincolnelectric.com. rebates tend to pop up every quarter for different machines. Right now we have rebates on the Ranger engine drive welder/ generators. And the 256 power Mig welder also. Been selling a lot of their tomahawk plasma cutters here in AZ a lot too. That rebate has been kicking butt lately.
I.ve had that model for about 2 years. The intereface is teriffic especially if you are a periodic welder that switches from mode to mode. Something to consider. Instead of a welding cart, reusing the bottom half of a used tool box can be a great way to go. You typically get more drawer space and often have room for plasma cutter on top a mutti mig welder has a lot off accessories to keep track of. weldingtips and tricks has excellent reviews on this model. ua-cam.com/video/T9WbwS54B-0/v-deo.html Also the welder will support .045 (see directiions)
This machine will accept the standard 2lb spools as well as Lincoln electric 12.5lb L56 wire spools. Standard 8 inch spools can be anywhere from 10lbs to 12.5lbs depending on the manufacture.
Just a tip, when setting fresh wire. To make sure you don’t jam or kink the wire while you load the hose you should always take the tip off and keep the MiG gun cord as straight as possible until it exits the gun, then reinstall the tip and cone. Sometimes the wire will catch inside the tip and birds nest or slip your rollers.
Just to avoid head aches, what I was taught and have always done.
Yes, that is correct!
I have the same Lincoln 210MP machine and love it. Bought about a year ago. One note - when I first got the 210MP I tried the 120v plugged into my 20A outdoor outlet. The power tripped immediately every time I reset it. Problem was the GFI (or GFCI) breaker on my outdoor plug. That GFI is so sensitive that it won't handle the initial arc. So if you do try running the 210MP on 120v be sure to use a 'regular' outlet, not the GFI type (Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter). I now run it on 240v all the time and it is very smooth. Great welding machine, and I recommend it also.
A number of people report the blown circuits are a function of the 20amp circuit, not as much the GFI. Hook the welder up to a 30 amp circuit and you should be fine.
What size mig wire can this machine be operated with? Thanks for the comment
Handy information for someone like me who has been confused about how MIG welding works. Now I know.
Until you said it is MIG WELDER l though this is TIG welder😇😆
I bought a 210 MP used for a very good price. I love it! the previous owner had the settings all messed up. I just went back to factory settings and it is a beast!
The 210 mp is my favorite multi process welder
Thank you, Keith. This is an excellent video presentation for a beginner like me. Your video provides the "right" pace, excellent video images, and simple explanations. I'm now ready to plug my new welder in & give it a "go."
Always fun to check out new toys, whether they are brand new or just new to you.
Excellent presentation and answered all my questions about the MP210. No loud music, plain spoken and very informative. Good video closeups of the digital display. A++
Over in the U.K. I have a Kemppi Minarcmig made in Finland which is now a few years old. It is an inverter machine and can have a shoulder strap to carry it anywhere as it is so light. This is particularly useful if you use fluxcore wire and no gas. It is synergic so you only need to set the material thickness manually when it is in automatic mode. The machine itself automatically adjusts to the material and conditions instantly. It only does mig welding but the weld quality is consistantly more betterer than any other machine I have used (except my larger Kemppi Kempomat). Iwould love to try the latest Kemppi machines but they are very expensive of course. With the Minarcmig you can take it anywhere and be welding about ten seconds after you plug it in and attach the earth clamp. Kemppi also make the best tig welders, in fact it was they who solved the long-standing problem with tig welding.
You the Man. Thank you Sir for your time..
Thanks for the review Keith. I'm thinking of replacing my old Lincoln weld pak 140 with one of these. The 140 is pretty limited (MIG and flux core only) so having one machine that does everything (with more power to boot) would be nice. One suggestion - when feeding the wire through the gun keep the MIG hose as straight as possible and remove the tip which you can put on after the wire comes out. Doing this can help prevent the wire from getting hung up in the gun hose and you'll know immediately if you have a too small nozzle since you won't be able to feed the wire through the hole when you attempt to screw it back on.
Always fun to play with a new toy, it should serve you well.
Brilliant review. By following this video, I’m sure a complete novice could get up and welding in no time at all. Can’t wait for the tig video. Thank you.
Best demo on this unit period. Thanks soo much for the video. It helped me ALOT!
thanks Mr. Rucker for the vid. I like the 210
Lincoln would probably sell 100 or more of these garage packs if they let Keith publish the coupon code along with these unboxing videos. . Lincoln - are you listening/watching?????
Thank you Kieth loved it, love the little welder.
kieth always remove your contact tip when your feeding wire down your mig whip. if you dont you could have a birds nest of wire jammed up in your drive rollers.
Keith, love your new Lincoln toys! I bought the Lincoln Square Wave 200 last year and it's a great supplement to my 10 year old Lincoln 180 Mig Welder. I have been looking to buy the 210MP Mig do to the added control features my SP-180t does not have. I am envious of your purchase. I stay true to Lincoln brands myself.
See ya at Arnfest 2018
Chicagoland.
I've had a small Lincoln for years and I love it. I also have an ancient WW2 Hobart Bros. 6 cyl. Chrysler powered unit. It also works well. Great for repairs on Battleships or Tanks. I like your new machine. Waiting for a 1 year report.
Keith- Rule of thumb on all devices, especially hydraulic and gas lines- NEVER- partially attach a line to be "tightened later"- that is a recipe for disaster- if you forget, it looks tight, but is not-
yeah, check out a book by Carroll Smith..."Nuts, Bolts and Hardware"....ALWAYS tighten any hose/line fitting like you're gonna run it....you're not likely to wear out the fitting/s.
I learned my lesson as an apprentice mechanic decades ago- My first engine rebuild- got it all together after a full teardown and it ran perfect- started on the second turn. I was a proud teenager when the customer drove out the door. The next day we got a call- customer said the engine lost oil pressure and had a rattle. Yep- when I first drained the oil during the teardown I screwed the drain plug back into the pan by hand. After the rebuild I forgot and it looked tight, so it vibrated out after the customer drove it and he lost all his oil. I had to foot the bill for the second rebuild and I never forgot that lesson. Later when we were building and racing cars, I saw so many guys who would screw on an oil line by hand, and then forget to tighten it up and lose some really expensive motors- never again happened to me though.
Excellent Reply...thanks!
In the 1970's I worked on some BIG machine tools, lots of hydraulic hoses and steel lines, 2,000 PSI, sometimes the assembly mechanics would forget to tighten the hoses due to having to climb a ladder and bring the 1-1/4" wrenches...So, as the Electronics Tech, I learned to ALWAYS check that stuff, ended up buying my own combo 1-1/4 wrench! or maybe it was 1-5/16"...
I often think maybe automotive oil drain plugs should be safety wired, once worked in a diesel truck shop, when you changed the oil, you kept that drain plug in your hand if it wasn't in the motor! Those are very expensive engines to fix if you even start then for 5 seconds with no oil!! There were torque specs for those plugs too.
Agreed,
Auto stuff can be messy and expensive, but high pressure hydraulics can be deadly.
Kills the machine too !
Love your channel Keith, and this one is whetting my appetite to try welding. Thanks for the detailed explanation on the welder.
I absolutely love my 210mp!!
Lincoln, good choice Keith, your going to like both machines.
Great video! Helped my son and I set our 210 up today 😃
Nice presentation Keith! We always get a good video from you.
Ooh...shiny new toys!
Good video.
Thanks.
i always leaves the tips an bits an bobs in the wire feed compartment you wont lose emm that way
Great review very helpful Thanks.
Enjoy your videos immensely! Makes me want to go get a couple of welders myself. Thank you.
Watching this channel so long I’d assume Keith has a long list of projects in mind but I’d assume First project for the welder, building a welding cart.
Hope he gets a ZT Fab cart.
Great Machines Keith! Let me know if you need help with a cart kit for them. I make one specifically for the Garage Pak setup.
great tutorial. Thanks
thanks for sharing
good job
Dave
That was very helpful. Thanks
Hi Keith , good video I was just looking at this same package last nite so thx for the introduction to these machines !!
Very good video very informative thank you
Next project, welding cart to hold it all.
Cheers
Was a little concerned if the Crescent Wrench you used to tighten up the flow meter / regulator was big enough.
Do you have Bigger One..?
Good video. FYI, that front face-plate folds down to reveal a little storage area
Thanks mate.
Thanks ! Love the video .
Great stuff, I love my Lincoln 180C
Congratulations!!
I use the Lincoln .035 wire in my little hobart, runs very consistent. Also cheaper per pound in the big spool. (corrected wire size)
Check decimal place...LOL that's some mighty big wire.
LOL yes you are correct... I should not make comments at 3am
I bought a Miller-Matic 200 in 1982....ran .035" and 44# spools, Lincoln...they were about $35 at that time, I just remember 3 spools was a tad over $100...in Oregon, no sales tax.
Awesome video thanks for sharing Keith.!.!.!.
THANK YOU...for sharing. Nice welder.
Had the 210 welded like garbage mig shielded traded for a 180c weld circles around it
Had mine 3 years, does a great job other than routine wire feed block problems. It seems to me that Lincoln’s customer service has been made unnecessarily difficult.
these are built in Cleveland, Ohio. i live near the local welding shops on the east side, they sell miller and lincoln. they sy lincoln is more american made
Your best video yet. I want one too. Keep up the good work.
Nice. Thanks for the video.
Next up? A ZT Fab cart for your new welders. Check out Adam Booth's cart.
kieth on your tube where your spool of wire slides on they is a little plastic tit that fits on your spool of wire to engage the spool to the drive tube. this keeps proper tention on your spool of wire then in the center of the tube is your spool tentioner knob to set a little drag on your spool so it dosent free wheel. hope this helps.
Nice machine.. It's getting on in years, was released in 2014. Any news about the next generation Lincoln multi-welders?
hi kieth great welder something i've not seen any of you guys do, either tig or mig,,,, i used to be a welder and on the bench as a gun holder, find a peice of tube that the id is large enough for the gun shroud fits snug, about 2 inches long and weld it just underneath the work surface on an angle like a holster to slide the shroud into, works brilliant and stores your torch safe from accidental arc
Thanks for this video ! I know nothing about welding and i saw people with gaz bottle, could you tell me the purpose of using it ?
Great video, thanks.
I hope you don't leave the Tig feeling left out. He's lonely and wants you to make a video of him too.
Skookum as FRIG!
AustrianAnarchy Speak English, not that nonsense.
Can't help it if you refuse to communicate with our friends from the great white north.
I love mine
I just bought a Lincoln 210 and getting a lot of tips from these video's; well done guys! Question if anyone knows, will this model run all day on black 1.2mm T square tubing? Another question, does the computer offer metric display rather than imperial? Yes I can Google the conversion but just asking. Thanks fella's
When they offer the garage deal can you please tell me how much Lincoln offers this set for.
I was looking at the Garage Pak last week at it was a little over $3k... Did u get a better price and if so, can you point me in the direction where I can get that deal? I know they had a rebate back in 2016 where you could get the garage pak for $1999.00 after rebate, but I can’t find that deal currently.... Thanks! Appreciate your videos!!!
ever though about reaching out to them and see if they can set you up with a deal may be a long shot but worth a try
Great video! Question: if running on 230 V, what size breaker on my electrical panel do I need to have? 20 AMP or 30 AMP or 50 AMP?
Hello Yiur welder should have a spec plate or sticker on it .. this will answer your question
Amps are cut in half when ran at 230 voltage per Ohms law.
The Lincoln data sheet for the 210MP states max current with 230v supply as 14.7 amps. So theoretically you could run a 20 amp breaker. I'd personally run a 30 amp breaker. Note that the receptacle needed is a NEMA 6-50R which is the standard "welder outlet" and, as you might guess, it's rated at 50 amps. So if you only run a 30 amp breaker upstream of a 50 amp receptacle be sure to clearly label the receptacle "WELDER ONLY". This is doubly important as it could be that in the near future somebody may try to plug an electric car into the receptacle. The danger with that is that the wiring from the breaker to the receptacle only needs to be 10 gauge for 30 amp service, while for a 50 amp draw like an electric car charger the wire needs to be 6 gauge I believe.
I think it will be a nice addition even if it likely won't still be working in 100 years. Can't have everything! lol
I am very new to welding and in the process of getting the Lincoln MIG 210 MP model. Your video was very informative. Where do you buy your .035 welding wire? Is Lincoln wire better to use in their products than other brands? Thanks for your advice.
Hello Sir
I recently got a MP210 for a gift gonna inbox on my day off Thursday
Why is it that you bought a Tig machine as well? If you can weld Tig with the MP210 by purchasing a $500 Tig option
Just curious you didn’t buy a nice plasma cutter or something
Thanks
Very nice.
Thanks, Keith. Do you have to switch to the negative side for mig flux core?
What was the duty cycle on the 210 mp
What was the gas volume where you using? Not a good picture of the weld but it seemed under cut.
Just getting into welding but would like to know how high do you open your regulator gauge to?
Mine came with a tig builtin
Im a rookie and I'm having problems with wire tension. I noticed this machine does not have numbers on the tensioner knob. How do you adjust yours?
Well if your wire is underfeeding, add tension. If overfeeding, less tension. Just gotta get the feel of it I guess.
I see a welding cart from ZTFab in your future!!!
Its a thumbs up from me - with some practice you will be getting as good as Abom
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Thanks, Keith. Do you think this would be a good welder to start out with? I'm the type of guy if I buy a cheap one I always regret it. It sure seems simple to learn on.
I own this machine, and I am a newbie. That said I read many reviews on it, basically saying it is very good at mig and arc, and not a bad machine to start doing tig, can't tig aluminum, and that makes no difference to me at this time.
@@Affordablebath_remodel Ok, I got it delivered Thursday. I also bought the spool gun for Aluminum.
Is machine can run in uk ?
? does the MP210 have a switch for a spool gun
Watch again!
do u need the gas
when is Building the welding car video series coming :)
Now you need a do-right welding cart, like Abom has.
what is the duty cycle. on the small machines they have a sort duty cycle
Jay Holboke At maximum power, I believe it's around 25%. Its listed on the spec sheet at Lincoln's website.
40% duty cycle on 120v. 25% duty cycle on 230V
What about its price ? Sir.
19:29 Abomb Torque!
Nah, the fitting didnt just snap in two like the everlast :P
He used a big enough wrench. :D
Anyone know if the rebate is still active?
Perhaps it was a once only Rucker-channel-promo offer.
Check back with your local welding supplier and lincolnelectric.com. rebates tend to pop up every quarter for different machines. Right now we have rebates on the Ranger engine drive welder/ generators. And the 256 power Mig welder also. Been selling a lot of their tomahawk plasma cutters here in AZ a lot too. That rebate has been kicking butt lately.
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I.ve had that model for about 2 years. The intereface is teriffic especially if you are a periodic welder that switches from mode to mode. Something to consider. Instead of a welding cart, reusing the bottom half of a used tool box can be a great way to go. You typically get more drawer space and often have room for plasma cutter on top a mutti mig welder has a lot off accessories to keep track of. weldingtips and tricks has excellent reviews on this model. ua-cam.com/video/T9WbwS54B-0/v-deo.html Also the welder will support .045 (see directiions)
Pretty well idiot proof , Sure alot better than they did when first came out .
Does it support cast iron?
Another two tablets for the iron deficiency.
Sad that the MIG just take small spools.
Baron3D It will hold a 10-pound spool won't it?
Yes, but not more. I always buy 32 pounds spools, and I am just a hobbyist.
This machine will accept the standard 2lb spools as well as Lincoln electric 12.5lb L56 wire spools. Standard 8 inch spools can be anywhere from 10lbs to 12.5lbs depending on the manufacture.
SO what is the "SPECIAL" deal? Is it available for us ordinary folks, or so you have to be special............
should've spent more money and bought the Miller welders, weld way better, hell lot smother ark and less spark skatter