@@sammalla5238 I think mostly everyone knows that if you pay attention to the movie I'm personally giving him props on his acting. Its one of the best monolugues ive seen in a while.
IKR!? I legitimately turned in the theater to my friend when they showed it at the end of part 1 and said “yea…that’s cool, but like how the hell do you get down!?”🤷♀️ I still don’t know 😅
@@sandrakiefler4649: Going by the books, the worm is ridden to exhaustion, at which point it slows down, or even stops completely, and sinks down a bit more into the sand (this slowing down and partial submersion is described as "sulking"), and then the rider typically jumps or rappels down the side, or alternatively runs down along the back and jumps off near the tail (but this is considered much more dangerous, due to the worm venting a ton of extremely hot gas there). It's also possible to jump off the side while it's still moving regularly, but that's more risky; it's less risky for other people than the rider in case there are multiple people riding on it, so that's done more frequently, but for the rider it can be very dangerous due to how the worm will start following its own will as soon as the rider removes the controlling hooks ("maker hooks"), so in those cases they'd at least want some nearby shelter they can book it to.
29:30, I agree with you on that. Sometimes their romance seems real and then at others it doesn't. There are scenes from the book that drive home just how much she loves Paul and her dedication to him. For example, Chani works hand in hand with Jessica to help support Paul's journey to leadership. She truly believes he is the Lisan Al Giab. Another example, is that Chani ends other Fremen who would threaten for Paul's claim to leadership. There was a scene in the book, where Paul is working on something and hears a scream from outside his tent or quarters. When he walks out he finds Chani standing there bloodied and cleaning her knife over a dead guy. When Paul would ask what's up Chani would reply like "He came to challenge you for leadership. But he was not worth your time." Paul would get mad and tell her it wasn't her place to accept the challenge. But Chani's reply would be "If he can't outfight Muad'Dib's woman then how could he defeat Muad'Dib himself. So he wasn't worth your time". It's hilarious and sweet in a way due to Fremen custom. If you defeat a man in Amtal combat you inherit his material goods, his wife and his children. I guess due to time constraints David Lynch and Denis Villeneuve left that out. In the book, after Paul defeated Jamis he had to take on the responsibility for Jamis's wife, his son and his step son. Because of Paul's crush and later love for Chani he never exercised his marital privileges with Jami's widow. He let her be his sisters nanny and treated the boys like his wards. So if some Fremen guy had defeated Paul in Amtal, Chani would have become that guy's woman. In the books and the SyFy channel adaptation, it is very clear that Chani does not wish to be anyone's woman but Paul. Hence, she takes out his inter tribal challengers herself...just to be sure. 😉
The thing is it's not realistic for a woman to kill and stand against her own people for a man, no matter how much she truly loves him. It may have been written that way in the book, but bear in mind the book was very much written by a man for a predominantly male audience. It has a very outdated and male centric view on how women should be subservient to men and would gladly give up everything for him. That idea is rightly being challenged in the modern age. Chani is more realistic in this movie as a woman because she has her own ideas and beliefs and loyalties separate from Paul, although it's clear she does love him. Modern audiences would appreciate that more than the blind loyalty of the book version of Chani.
@@sen.m7832This! I'm a female Dune fan who has read the book series 3x. The Chani from the book written in the 1960s does not work in 2024. At all. Changes were necessary to her character whether certain male Dune fans want to acknowledge how poorly Herbert wrote the women in his series or not...
Saw this in IMAX and it was just the best thing I've seen on the big screen. Also, they knocked it out of the park with the score and sound design. My favorite was just them simply choosing not to play any background music during the fight scene with Feyd and Paul. It just made it more suspenseful and visceral and adding music to it would have taken away from it, I think.
"How do they get off? (the worms). Note how by pulling open scales, Paul induces the worm to rotate so that his position is on top (worms are sensitive beneath their protective scales and don't like getting sand underneath). To get off, you find a suitable spot (side of a high dune, for example) and rotate the worm the other way. At the appropriate moment and angle, you jump off. Biggest change from the book: Chani is supportive of Paul throughout the novel. Essentially, she becomes Paul's concubine when he marries (for political reasons) Princess Irulan. No shame here. Remember, Paul's mother Jessica was the Duke's concubine; not an official wife. I haven't seen any relevant interviews, but I'm assuming that Denis made the change to assuage contemporary feelings. I find it unnecessary, but it may help with the plot for Dune Messiah, in which book Chani dies in childbirth.
Denis said that when the book first came out people treated Paul as a hero and missed the message Frank Herbert was trying to send so he made Dune Messiah to show Paul's fall from grace more clearly. Denis said he used Chani as a point of view character for the audience so he had her be more skeptical of Paul in order to better deliver the message that Paul is not a hero and is ultimately desperate for power. That's also why Paul never tells Chani he plans on marrying the princess ahead of time in the film whereas in the book he tells Chani ahead of time and she agrees with the logic of the plan.
23:29 i didnt expect you to know this movie haha Opinions on it are quite negatuve because of Its questionable production and its male gaze on lesbians but its still one of my favorite movies of all time, i stayed depressed for like a week after watching it Years after I watched it I still think about it time to time, I can't bring myself to watch it again fearing I'll be depressed for another week.. so if it had that strong effect on me (Its not very easy to make me emotional or reach my petrified heart) i assume the movie had to do some things right lol That's why I never blindly listen to others opinions on movies before watching them myself, most movies that aren't that well acclaimed by people I end up enjoying Even tho the movie definitely has the male gaze from the director, as a gay woman, many things on the movie were done perfectly and were done right, very relatable to me and many girls I know. The director must've had the right people and women on set because I doubt he would know such intricate things and details being who he his
"Is that a thing in the first one?" Yes, and it was a thing in this one too, a minute or two earlier, when we saw the Harkonnen troopers descend from their ship... 🙂
As a book reader there were many things I didn't like about it. But apart from that it was really good. I have never been so happy that I got to see a movie in a theater, it was such an amazing experience.
Great reaction. Just have one disagreement. The first movie had the harder story to tell. You are right. It had to set this Masterpiece up. Not an easy task when the bulk of the story was in the second movie. It had to succeed in order to get to tell the rest of the story. So "better" is relative.
What a great reaction! Very clever and you are really observing. A new subscriber here. -Poor Chani. BUT, at the end of the book, lady Jessica pulls Chani aside and tells her “history will remember us as wives” she explains princess Irulan who is technically Paul’s wife, will never feel tenderness or love from Paul, and she will live as “less than a concubine”. Meanwhile the ones who the great leaders, Leto I and Paul, loved in reality were the unofficial wives. -In Paul's holy war casualties were 61 billion lives, the sterilization of ninety planets, and the "demoralization" of five hundred additional worlds. Furthermore, 40 different religions were wiped out, along with their followers. -Baron Harkonnen is afflicted with a degenerative disease that caused his obesity. As a young man he enjoyed the male physic and kept himself in prime physical shape. -The un-drugged man that Feyd kills in the arena is Roger Yuan, the fight coordinator for both movies.
I think he wasn’t referring to their characters but the actors. While Austin Butler has done training for movies Dave Bautista has done Jiu-Jitsu training.
Duncan Idaho use it while fighting in part one. When duncan was killing those guys looking for paul after someone throws a slow dart at him he deflects it with his knife then he hits in n is why hes able to jump that distance to kill the other guy after he threw his knife at the guy remember Duncan Idaho Jason Moana in Dune Part One.
Not unrealistic. Feyd is olympic skilled It’s the most skilled fighter not the biggest and Rabbin is a brute with a whip and gets beat up or loses easy.
@@WatchMitchWatch Meant excluding. Stopped watching when HW division started to suck. But everyone always talks about pound for pound best fighters with lower classes dismissing the advantage HWs do have. Butler put in the work with his body to make Feyd formidable enough to make it believable w/the skills at least imo
@@WatchMitchWatch: In combat sports there are tons of rules, including a prohibition against kicks to the groin and the use of protective cups to guard that area; in that short sequence you can see Feyd kicking Rabban straight in the nuts, which can easily incapacitate even a larger guy. If Rabban had managed to close the distance I agree that Feyd would likely have struggled, although he'd definitely go for whatever dirty tricks possible in that situation, like eye gouging and other moves that are illegal in all combat sports. But once Rabban is on the floor after having been kicked in the groin, he probably realizes the predicament he's in anyway, and that he's been replaced by Feyd in the hierarchy, so he accepts his fate.
"the voice" is such a convenient plot device! lol its bascially the voice of the writer, when he cant work out how to make a thing come about just order it "BECAUSE I SAY SO!"
The water there saving is to some day use it to terraform the planet they waiting for Messiah to come so they can dump the water all over dune with those water to eventually terraform the planet make it a paradise again.
After the attack on house atredies gurney halleck become a smuggler so when we see him again in part two gurney is smuggling spice illegally. Paul n chani relationship feels off cuz Denis Villeneuve completely change her character n their relationship so its weird cuz modern directors don't understand romance or love just feminism n anti traditional worldviews.
Or because he needed a good character to make it blatent that paul isnt the good guy anymore because too many traditional douchbags completely missed the point of the original book and the author had to write another book to make it crystal clear
Man I don’t care I was ready to fight for Paul after that speech
Yeah bro, man gave me chills!
Yeah I’d be in his Jihad that’s for sure
And thats what the book/movie is warning us about.
and that's exactly a lesson...NEVER blindly follow a charismatic leader
@@sammalla5238 I think mostly everyone knows that if you pay attention to the movie I'm personally giving him props on his acting. Its one of the best monolugues ive seen in a while.
10/10 movie. Denis is easily my favorite director at the moment
So so good. Have you seen Incendies?
Denis is a great director, check out prisoners if you haven’t!
@@dess234 I have, great movie! Have you seen Incendies? That’s a good one too
@@WatchMitchWatch I Denis would make an english language remake of that.
@@kellymoses8566 I really hope he doesn’t. That would be a disgrace
Best Picture of 2024
It's only the start of the year but at the moment I definitely agree!
without a doubt
This was an amazing experience in IMAX. At one point the theater was shaking so much I thought the roof tiles were gonna come crashing down.
I'm actually going to see it in IMAX next week. So keen!!
Bro im glad im not the only one who questioned how the hell they get off those worms.
Hahaha yeah legit, surely it's not a fun exit
@WatchMitchWatch especially the women who are pregnant. Like what are the logistics
IKR!? I legitimately turned in the theater to my friend when they showed it at the end of part 1 and said “yea…that’s cool, but like how the hell do you get down!?”🤷♀️
I still don’t know 😅
@@sandrakiefler4649:
Going by the books, the worm is ridden to exhaustion, at which point it slows down, or even stops completely, and sinks down a bit more into the sand (this slowing down and partial submersion is described as "sulking"), and then the rider typically jumps or rappels down the side, or alternatively runs down along the back and jumps off near the tail (but this is considered much more dangerous, due to the worm venting a ton of extremely hot gas there).
It's also possible to jump off the side while it's still moving regularly, but that's more risky; it's less risky for other people than the rider in case there are multiple people riding on it, so that's done more frequently, but for the rider it can be very dangerous due to how the worm will start following its own will as soon as the rider removes the controlling hooks ("maker hooks"), so in those cases they'd at least want some nearby shelter they can book it to.
This was an awesome reaction my dude, subbed
29:30, I agree with you on that. Sometimes their romance seems real and then at others it doesn't. There are scenes from the book that drive home just how much she loves Paul and her dedication to him. For example, Chani works hand in hand with Jessica to help support Paul's journey to leadership. She truly believes he is the Lisan Al Giab.
Another example, is that Chani ends other Fremen who would threaten for Paul's claim to leadership. There was a scene in the book, where Paul is working on something and hears a scream from outside his tent or quarters. When he walks out he finds Chani standing there bloodied and cleaning her knife over a dead guy.
When Paul would ask what's up Chani would reply like "He came to challenge you for leadership. But he was not worth your time." Paul would get mad and tell her it wasn't her place to accept the challenge. But Chani's reply would be "If he can't outfight Muad'Dib's woman then how could he defeat Muad'Dib himself. So he wasn't worth your time".
It's hilarious and sweet in a way due to Fremen custom. If you defeat a man in Amtal combat you inherit his material goods, his wife and his children. I guess due to time constraints David Lynch and Denis Villeneuve left that out. In the book, after Paul defeated Jamis he had to take on the responsibility for Jamis's wife, his son and his step son. Because of Paul's crush and later love for Chani he never exercised his marital privileges with Jami's widow. He let her be his sisters nanny and treated the boys like his wards.
So if some Fremen guy had defeated Paul in Amtal, Chani would have become that guy's woman. In the books and the SyFy channel adaptation, it is very clear that Chani does not wish to be anyone's woman but Paul. Hence, she takes out his inter tribal challengers herself...just to be sure. 😉
The thing is it's not realistic for a woman to kill and stand against her own people for a man, no matter how much she truly loves him. It may have been written that way in the book, but bear in mind the book was very much written by a man for a predominantly male audience. It has a very outdated and male centric view on how women should be subservient to men and would gladly give up everything for him. That idea is rightly being challenged in the modern age. Chani is more realistic in this movie as a woman because she has her own ideas and beliefs and loyalties separate from Paul, although it's clear she does love him. Modern audiences would appreciate that more than the blind loyalty of the book version of Chani.
@@sen.m7832This! I'm a female Dune fan who has read the book series 3x. The Chani from the book written in the 1960s does not work in 2024. At all. Changes were necessary to her character whether certain male Dune fans want to acknowledge how poorly Herbert wrote the women in his series or not...
@@sen.m7832 LOL. Love makes us all do crazy stuff. Thanks for your perspective.
@@pamelajohnson9214 The necessity for changes to canon is merely a matter of opinion. But thanks for your perspective.
@@pamelajohnson9214She does work, she just doesn't work for "modern audience's" with their "message".
24:25, the shield deflects fast attacks but a slow push inward with a blade it will let enter.
Ahh interesting! Makes sense
Bros looks like Thor ong 😂😂, nice reaction bruv 👌
Hahaha thanks bro, I actually doubled for him on the most recent Thor movie. No bs
@@WatchMitchWatch OMG that is such a cool thing to be able to say
Oh shit ☠️🔥🔥
thor rocking the default Mii eyebrows
Saw this in IMAX and it was just the best thing I've seen on the big screen. Also, they knocked it out of the park with the score and sound design. My favorite was just them simply choosing not to play any background music during the fight scene with Feyd and Paul. It just made it more suspenseful and visceral and adding music to it would have taken away from it, I think.
"How do they get off? (the worms).
Note how by pulling open scales, Paul induces the worm to rotate so that his position is on top (worms are sensitive beneath their protective scales and don't like getting sand underneath). To get off, you find a suitable spot (side of a high dune, for example) and rotate the worm the other way. At the appropriate moment and angle, you jump off.
Biggest change from the book: Chani is supportive of Paul throughout the novel. Essentially, she becomes Paul's concubine when he marries (for political reasons) Princess Irulan. No shame here. Remember, Paul's mother Jessica was the Duke's concubine; not an official wife. I haven't seen any relevant interviews, but I'm assuming that Denis made the change to assuage contemporary feelings. I find it unnecessary, but it may help with the plot for Dune Messiah, in which book Chani dies in childbirth.
Denis said that when the book first came out people treated Paul as a hero and missed the message Frank Herbert was trying to send so he made Dune Messiah to show Paul's fall from grace more clearly. Denis said he used Chani as a point of view character for the audience so he had her be more skeptical of Paul in order to better deliver the message that Paul is not a hero and is ultimately desperate for power. That's also why Paul never tells Chani he plans on marrying the princess ahead of time in the film whereas in the book he tells Chani ahead of time and she agrees with the logic of the plan.
I'm pretty sure in the books the way you get off is by riding the worm until it's exhausted.
Damnn you just spoiled it for me
Some folks aren't reading the books, so SPOILER tag this, please.
(44:03) … Thank you so much, man 😍😂💪🏼
Hahaha cheeky flex
23:29 i didnt expect you to know this movie haha
Opinions on it are quite negatuve because of Its questionable production and its male gaze on lesbians but its still one of my favorite movies of all time, i stayed depressed for like a week after watching it
Years after I watched it I still think about it time to time, I can't bring myself to watch it again fearing I'll be depressed for another week.. so if it had that strong effect on me (Its not very easy to make me emotional or reach my petrified heart) i assume the movie had to do some things right lol
That's why I never blindly listen to others opinions on movies before watching them myself, most movies that aren't that well acclaimed by people I end up enjoying
Even tho the movie definitely has the male gaze from the director, as a gay woman, many things on the movie were done perfectly and were done right, very relatable to me and many girls I know. The director must've had the right people and women on set because I doubt he would know such intricate things and details being who he his
Man 10 hours in a chair everyday to see someone else's vision is nuts!
"Is that a thing in the first one?" Yes, and it was a thing in this one too, a minute or two earlier, when we saw the Harkonnen troopers descend from their ship... 🙂
To be fair that was a descent, not an ascent.
@@danielplainview2584 it works both ways. The tecnology is the same...
I was getting depressed that Americans were the stupidest people in the world. I feel better now that I watched this reaction until I couldn't .
True, definitely seems different when it’s an ascent vs a descent
@@WatchMitchWatch not at all, but OK.
As a book reader there were many things I didn't like about it. But apart from that it was really good. I have never been so happy that I got to see a movie in a theater, it was such an amazing experience.
Do you recommend reading the book? I'm actually going to go and see it in IMAX next week
Him calling it “June” is sending me 😂
Haha that’s the Aussie accent for you
Better than Doon...
@@fordcorsair that’s my buoy
18:34 HANS ZIMMER CAN'T MISS!!
He's such a weapon! No one else comes close
@@WatchMitchWatch Even taking out the movie, Hans Zimmer's music tells an entire story by itself.
Great reaction. Just have one disagreement. The first movie had the harder story to tell. You are right. It had to set this Masterpiece up. Not an easy task when the bulk of the story was in the second movie. It had to succeed in order to get to tell the rest of the story. So "better" is relative.
Oh absolutely, but if you’re just going to sit down and watch one, or even recommend one, 99% of the time it would be the 2nd one
fight over the new age of hollywood that was hilarious
Hahaha glad you liked it
What a great reaction! Very clever and you are really observing. A new subscriber here.
-Poor Chani. BUT, at the end of the book, lady Jessica pulls Chani aside and tells her “history will remember us as wives” she explains princess Irulan who is technically Paul’s wife, will never feel tenderness or love from Paul, and she will live as “less than a concubine”. Meanwhile the ones who the great leaders, Leto I and Paul, loved in reality were the unofficial wives.
-In Paul's holy war casualties were 61 billion lives, the sterilization of ninety planets, and the "demoralization" of five hundred additional worlds. Furthermore, 40 different religions were wiped out, along with their followers.
-Baron Harkonnen is afflicted with a degenerative disease that caused his obesity. As a young man he enjoyed the male physic and kept himself in prime physical shape.
-The un-drugged man that Feyd kills in the arena is Roger Yuan, the fight coordinator for both movies.
what a funny end to the reaction lol
Is there a discussion portion at the end that's missing? My player cuts off at "3 weeks after it's release" as if it's leading towards something
Nah that is it, that was the end of the fun fact
exactly! i found the romance kind of awkward as well! some people like it tho, strangely enough
Bigger people get dropped in fights by smaller people all the time. The internet is filled with video's of it😂how is it unrealistic?
I think he wasn’t referring to their characters but the actors. While Austin Butler has done training for movies Dave Bautista has done Jiu-Jitsu training.
Duncan Idaho use it while fighting in part one. When duncan was killing those guys looking for paul after someone throws a slow dart at him he deflects it with his knife then he hits in n is why hes able to jump that distance to kill the other guy after he threw his knife at the guy remember Duncan Idaho Jason Moana in Dune Part One.
Watching this on IMAX was an amazing experience. Waiting for the next movie will be torture
I’m going to see it on imax this week! Very keen
Not unrealistic. Feyd is olympic skilled It’s the most skilled fighter not the biggest and Rabbin is a brute with a whip and gets beat up or loses easy.
Not into combat sports? Weight class matters a lot
@@WatchMitchWatch Meant excluding. Stopped watching when HW division started to suck. But everyone always talks about pound for pound best fighters with lower classes dismissing the advantage HWs do have. Butler put in the work with his body to make Feyd formidable enough to make it believable w/the skills at least imo
@@WatchMitchWatch:
In combat sports there are tons of rules, including a prohibition against kicks to the groin and the use of protective cups to guard that area; in that short sequence you can see Feyd kicking Rabban straight in the nuts, which can easily incapacitate even a larger guy.
If Rabban had managed to close the distance I agree that Feyd would likely have struggled, although he'd definitely go for whatever dirty tricks possible in that situation, like eye gouging and other moves that are illegal in all combat sports. But once Rabban is on the floor after having been kicked in the groin, he probably realizes the predicament he's in anyway, and that he's been replaced by Feyd in the hierarchy, so he accepts his fate.
"Good luck to him" you may not wish him luck if you knew what it meant
Great reaction!
Thanks! What kind of reactions do you like to watch?
"the voice" is such a convenient plot device! lol its bascially the voice of the writer, when he cant work out how to make a thing come about just order it "BECAUSE I SAY SO!"
Anya tailor johnson 💀💀
Hahaha my bad, got it mixed with Aaron Taylor Johnson
@WatchMitchWatch you said it so confidently I started doubting myself too 😭😭❤️
@@thomasluke-wp8or hahaha there was 0 hesitation!
Is this a re-upload? Or did I develop prescience
Reupload. Probably got striked
The water there saving is to some day use it to terraform the planet they waiting for Messiah to come so they can dump the water all over dune with those water to eventually terraform the planet make it a paradise again.
Game of thrones? House of the dragon?
Qualitywise those two would be pretty same level as Dune
I truly believe that dune would have made an all time great series
Bro is Jiri Proacha
After the attack on house atredies gurney halleck become a smuggler so when we see him again in part two gurney is smuggling spice illegally. Paul n chani relationship feels off cuz Denis Villeneuve completely change her character n their relationship so its weird cuz modern directors don't understand romance or love just feminism n anti traditional worldviews.
Or because he needed a good character to make it blatent that paul isnt the good guy anymore because too many traditional douchbags completely missed the point of the original book and the author had to write another book to make it crystal clear
Sorry, Bed reaction
You watched it in bed?
Who cares of your reaction
The 11k people that have watched it already probably