MK7.5 Golf R back for upgrades Garrett PMax S2 and EQT.
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2022
- This MK7.5 is back for some upgrades. We removed the DBV2 and installed the new Garrett Pmax S2 turbo. We did a custom tune with EQT and even on our trashy 91oct it didn't disappoint.
This one will be back no doubt when we turn it up with some good fuel (Ethanol).
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cheers to the weekend boys! been feening for some of yalls content today, just in time.
Awesome content to watch - Just got inside from oil change, rotor and pad swap (fronts) on my TDI Jetta and saw you posted a video!
Just installed a k04 kit on my 2009 mk5 Jetta TSI and luckily I ran into your page !! So much great info and great comparisons ! Really helped a lot with my “build” keep up the great content !!!
Glad we could help.
I have this same turbo and I’m over 500hp on ethanol. I absolutely love my R with this turbo on it.
How is this for reliability I have a Audi s3 2020 stage 2
Looking at the pms2 turbo next!
@@UhJbob reliability is the same as the stock turbo. No issues with the turbo over the first year of the install.
@@kylew3643 this is good to hear thanks
Very calming channel, love it here
We appreciate the comments.
Nice that I found this video. Getting ready to have the Garrett PMax S1 installed on my 2019 GLI. good to see these turbos working well though.
Enjoy
had them on my GTI loved them, just brought home my R last night and purchased one of their OTS tunes this morning. Since my 16vt wont be ready for the track this year I had to do something....thanks again, your channel made me finish the 16vt rebuild and restoring the 83 jetta coupe for it...only a decade in the making.
Glad we could motivate someone to get stuff done. Enjoy!. Now if I could just get my 16vt back together.
@@COMotorsports well since mine has been at the machine shop since feb....2200c injectors and a new fuel system was added...probably should upgrade the stock g60 trans haha among other goodies
Golf R stage 3 currently running Garrett powermax 1, 454bhp and 442lbft, max torque @ 2750rpm turbo, right up to 7200rpm 👍💪
How much boost are you running bruh
Watched you guys work on that white R like 40 minutes ago lmao perfect timing
Dope set up
I have this exact car and i am looking to do the same thing love the input
I feel that handicap of fuel. Pump 93 is the best I can get at the pump. I know the mk7s can be tuned and make great power on ethanol…. I just can’t commit to 55 gallons of straight e85… don’t have the time to send logs back and forth with my tuner as well
Good to see a new vid 👍👍👍🇦🇺
Our show got us off our regular schedule, first time in a few years. We're getting back into the regular YT stuff. More coming.
If you guys get this car out on the road again sometime, I would love to see a VCDS log of throttle position and boost pressure over time. Same goes for the APR DTR TLA. There are lots of options for this power level on the R and boost response is the only differentiator. Albeit it's not a video that would make you UA-cam famous but probably one that would get linked a lot on Vortex.
I AGREE!
Both have a fair amount of lag.
i wanna know how the dbv2 ful frame turbo work on these cars keep seeing it and wonder the install process and how well the car handles it'
EQT is killing it! Love my big turbo E85 tune with them
I also have their xl turbo, i just cant wait to install it🤭
I truly prefer the OG rendering for the new shirts 👌🏻😂
I had to get it out of my brain. It worked. Lol
Once again great content. I’ve shelved the 1.8t for now to work on my daughters B7 2.0t tfsi. Any chance you have some 2.0t tfsi or tsi content?
Definitely do. ua-cam.com/video/Vr4L3FOJlpc/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/90jX6-mbvcg/v-deo.html
I have a question I own a 2021 Porsche macan it is a 2.0 l tfsi engine with the is20 similar to the gti mk 7.5 stock it is making around 252 hp do you think the engine can hold without changing internal 450bhp?
My mk8 turbo sounds the same with that wild scream it does 😂
Haha sounds like a pissed off chimpanzee
7:34 my MK6 DSG is on IE Stage 1, the car is way faster as it should have been from factory and get better fuel economy.
** great videos **
I'm still undecided on what turbo to run on my 7.5 R. I've heard a lot of great things about the Vortex XL but my only concern is going to be turbo lag in between gearshifts as I have a stick shift MK7.5 R.
If that's your concern, then it isn't a concern. if you rev to 7k and shift the RPM won't fall lower than where either of them come in. Even if you were slow to shift and it dropped to 5k, that's still much later then where they come in.
I wish i could bring my car to you guys, as i have a few parts to install, IE Intercooler and Garrett GT2260s turbo! But, damn Canadian boarders still not letting in everyone! :(
Borders are back to normal.
Nice work, liking the alternative shown here. Is that level of surge bad for the Garrett?
It's minor at this level. Part of the problem of running relatively small turbos (for good spool) to make big power.
If the owner reads this, just get the brushless RS3 pump. My 535 is already out of fuel on a smaller turbo on ethanol at 85% duty. Adding a PM4 is like halfway to a better pump. Sell the one in there, add the RS3, you can thank me later.
This was filmed weeks ago. New brushless already waiting to go in. 😉
@@COMotorsports Nice.
There was nothing wrong with reliability on the DBV2 turbos. I have ran mine problem free for 2.5yrs and still going. I have the DBV2 V1 with FBO / Autotech HPFP/ EQT stage 3 DSG Tune / EQT Custom 94 octane plus Boostane running 10.9@126mph with a 1.678 60ft on 235/35/19 Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 street tires. I have seen guys in USA running mid 10sec on the V1 turbos. I think it's all on the regular maintenance record.
That's you. This has had actuator problems and the wheel already looks like it's been swapped out. So new owner didn't want to deal with it any longer.
@@COMotorsportswell that's understandable why he swapped turbos. But all aftermarket companies have had issues with there hybrid turbos even EQT. You get your good and bad batches. Love your channel by the way. Very informative. I'm from Ontario Canada.
@@colinmcdonell5034 yeah that's why we went with a Garrett on this one. Reliability is so good with them, you get what you pay for as they say.
@@COMotorsports "This has had actuator problems and the wheel already looks like it's been swapped out. So new owner didn't want to deal with it any longer." Must have happened after I sold it, car was running great when I had it.
all of theses pmax2 surge like this ?
Hi can you say how many whp can we have with pmax stage 2 with lpfp hpfp and everything but stock internal ? I really want to know i have the same turbo
Does this turbo bolt on? Or special parts required?
At what hp level does reliability come into play on a R? Planning my mods for next year for the highest hp possible with it being reliable. We have E85 in my area.
500whp is pretty easy on E
How's the lag compared to a vortex XL? I love the dyno and install videos!
You can compare to one of our last videos.
Love a sleeper 👍
How are these compared to g25 550?
Hi! Nice video! Could you please recomend me best TURBO choice for stock mk7.5 gti 2019. I use car for quarter mille drag races. I would like to have the more power and reliability ass possible. We have 98oct fuel here.
We have a few options, hit us up when you're ready to pull the trigger.
I would like to know what about this g25 spooling time? Is it too laggy conpared to an stock is38? Have you some 60-130mph dragy numbers?
Comparing big turbos to stock turbos isn't the answer.
Jeez, and I thought I was content with stage two on my MK7.5 R
It's too easy to make reliable power in these. :)
I have a question….We had a recall on our ECM on our 2020 vw golf gti. We took it to get it done. We did not know our car had a tune on it. We purchased it used in june. VW tried updating the ecm a couple times i think. Found out that it was tuned and they couldnt get the update to work. Would that and could that mess up the tune on the car and cause it to run bad?
No but it's more likely the tune is gone... Erased over.
What plugs you guy's using I have EQT Tune Also... Keep kicking Ass 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
I just bought the eqt recommended ngk non protruded racing plugs, they have a slanted ground strap and it doesn't protrude, u just need a special tool that's like 10-20 bucks but it ensures even pressure so Ur plugs are properly gapped.
Could you run this turbo without the MPI kit? I really wanna do a build like this in the future but if I need the MPI to run it is there any alternative that would get me in the ballpark of what this setup can do?
What's the problem with doing MPI?
How much boost are you guys running? I am over spinning mine a bit, but overall its held up to years worth of abuse pretty dang good on E85
It all comes down the the sensors, and turbo that's in the car. This one we did upgraded sensors so 32-33psi.
@@COMotorsports Awesome. Thats what Iam running on mine as well.
How did you do a run like that when it’s awd? Aren’t all R awd?
Like this. ua-cam.com/video/IzCt58E_Wjc/v-deo.html
Hello. When will the APR DTR6054-equipped Audi S3 be uploaded?
Unsure, waiting for more data.
Do you think the Stage 1 powermax can hit 430ish on better fuel and similar mods. (ex. Petro94 in Ontario ;) ) spool will be a bit better also on the smaller guy. For someone like me, I don't think I will be using E85 and chasing bigger numbers.
Petro 94 is E10. However doubt it can do 430 on the Pmax stage1. Thinking 400.
It'd say ~400whp also. But I have no experience with it so just a guess.
@@COMotorsportswith an E40 mix I made 395 on a Mustang Dyno. That was getting close to the 185k RPM limit of the turbo. Spool was 29Lbs by 2900.
What is the cause of that smoke when the acceleration ends on the Dyno?
On MK7's generally PCV's.
Whats that whistling / surging noise on hard acceleration?
Surging
bit of comp surge there, still great turbo for that car.
Yep on both accounts. Our fuel requires lots of boost to make power.
I heard it too, obviously knock limited at that load point. I'm assuming this bolt-on version doesn't use a ported shroud compressor housing.
Can you put these cars on a front wheel drive dyno or do you disconnect driveshaft
You're seeing it on a 2wd dyno so yes. All we do is unplug the Haldex controller.
What are the Knock readings? -2.00 -2.75?
No not even.
What do you mean kill mode by brushless pump ?
Huh?
How easy do you think it would be to switch from an APR Stage 3+ EFR7163 kit to something like this? Sticking with APR means I have to go to an APR dealer to change files, and there aren't any ethanol options either. United motorsport efr7163 tube would necessitate replacing the wastegate I think.
Why would you change the kit? If you're set on being able to change the software yourself just get different software. However those kits work amazing.
@@COMotorsports is there anyone who does different software for the APR kit? As far as I'm aware, united motorsport are the only ones that tune EFR7163s, and they insist on replacing the factory pneumatic wastegate with a modified electronic wastegate from an is38.
@@jackwicker let me ask this. What is your end goal here? What are trying to accomplish?
@@COMotorsports I'd like to be able to road trip to places where there is only 93 octane available without having to worry about stopping by an APR dealer that is ~2 hours out of the way. The ability to use E85, particularly with true flex fuel would be nice as well.
@@jackwicker Only one company offers a true flex tune and that's IE. What tune are you running if you're not running a 93oct file?
Is this a gti? I know everything says R but why is it only fwd on the dyno?
It's clearly an R. Haldex is disconnected... we have a video describing it on our channel.
Are you going to post the E Dyno? 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
When it comes back for the E dyno.
5 bar map sensor? surely not needed, no 4 bar available in the us?
5 bar is the common upgrade.
This that a carbon fiber emblem or vinyl?
It looked to be actual carbon.
Wouldn't the stock catback choke it up
I think we're still good here, but maybe when we get it back for an E tune we'll do something with the exhaust to test.
I think 400 whp would be the goal for my mk7 gti. There’s too many mustangs around town.
It's a pretty easy task
agreed. looking forward to my is38 upgrade on my mk7.5 In the future.
👍🤙
Why did he remove the dbv2?
Pretty sure it's in the video
Are you guys running 91’ 😆😉
Some just don't get it.
Would love you to do a fuel comparison, like contents in your 89-91octane against euro 99/102. Watched your videos for ages especially when it came to my 1.8t mk1 tt 225 and then my mk5 golf gti with K04. But every video always stumps me on your fuel giving the low numbers, it’s crazy bad compared to the uk fuel which is pretty shit even the highest octane.
If the fuel has any E content than it really helps with knock. Since ours does not they want to knock their faces off...so to keep them happy we have to run very little timing, which means less power.
@@COMotorsports currently we have 95ron, 97ron with e10 and 97ron,98ron,99ron at e5. Why do we seem to put less ethanol content in the lower octane fuels. Would surely make sense for the performance fuel to also be a higher octane with also a e10. E5 upto 5%, E10 upto 10%.
@@COMotorsports our 95ron is your 91octane and our 98ron would be like your 94octane and our 99ron highest mass sold fuel would be your 94.5/95octane.
How bad does your fuel really get out there? Or is it purely a state by state thing. Pretty standard for the uk pumps to be min 95ron uk / 91octane USA numbers, more so a lot of fuel stations now have 97ron / 93octane usa numbers.
@@BlaxJakx in the fuel world adding E is like cutting it. Meaning you're getting less fuel mileage for your dollar. So as a regular Joe consumer the more E mixed into your fuel the more you're getting ripped off on the mileage. However for us HP junkies we'd prefer that due to the performance gain.
Stock HPFP or Autotech?
Stock hpfp. Sorry mods list will be added. On the road so mobile makes it tough.
Is It possibile with same hardware and software new big turbo less Power? what Is It wrong?
What are you referring too?
@@COMotorsportsgeneral questions according to your experience..needs custom ECU tuning?
@@lucatronconi3558 yes, boost, timing, fuel all play a factor.
Is the motor stock on this car? If not, what is done to it?
I'm sure it's mentioned in the video but stock.
@@COMotorsports Oh okay must've missed it. Very cool bro thanks for the awesome video!
@@COMotorsports In your opinion, what do you think is the max hp and torque these gen 3 motors can make with stock internals? I'm considering upgrading to the 660 turbo but not sure if I should at least throw better valves on first...
@@Im8oh8 Watch our MK7 big turbo video's and will get a good idea.
@@Im8oh8 Watch our MK7 R videos, you will get an idea based on the mods and different turbos.
So the compressor surge is real. You can clearly hear a bit
Yep, it's there for about 1k. This is around 32-33psi. We need the boost as timing has to be very conservative on this fuel.
@@COMotorsports If you would want to get rid of the surge, would have to drop the boost a bit in that rpm range?
@@Zharsergey yes, but the boost is only fluctuating like .5 psi during that range so it's not noticeable in the power delivery or driveability. Higher boost in that range and it would be more noticeable for sure.
@@COMotorsports in what gear you are doing pulls?
@@lamazver 4th on 6spd manuals. 5th on 7spd DSG.
Cuantos caballos soporta este motor
550whp
Thank you for taking the time to answer me in Spanish.
Thank you for taking the time to answer me in Spanish.
I just recently did IS20 APR Tune on my 2015 GSW FWD Auto. I'm having a high RPM misfire issue that I am trying to figure out. Very Annoying.
Gap plugs tighter
@@COMotorsports gapped to 0.26 I was thinking maybe fuel pump or injectors. Coils seem good to.
@@mhaas281 gap plugs tighter.
@@COMotorsports I'll try 0.24 thanks
@@mhaas281 go smaller. You're not going to hurt anything. You're just trying to prove if it's the issue or not.
and sooon turbo change because die.. turbo Surging actually this is noot good
Have you seen a tuned K04.. lol
Topo golf GTi
You should go to your local airport and buy some 100 octane
Or maybe the drag strip?
Where are they based . They are complaining about the fuel
East coast Canada
always thought these turds were awd
They are
How olddddd are you?
25?!
ARE YOU MAKING CONTENT?!
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Anyone try the apr dtr kit with mpi/high and low pumps? Im on a full apr/Ei stage 2 build, ohlins and a ton of other goodies. Next step would be turbo and fuel. Going e85, was hoping for 450whp but i dunno if thats to high of an expectation?
The turbos good for about 450ishwhp. APR just posted one that made 45xwhp. Expect fueling mods etc to get there.
@@COMotorsports thanks for the reply, i got all the usual stage 2 stuff intercooler, intake, turbo back exhaust, hi flow boost hoses, throttle pipe, tubo inlet and outlet pipe, coil backs blah blah. So when APR says 495 crank power without those other supporting mods i figured something in the 550 crank / 450whp would be achievable. Hopefully.... im gonna rock the full DTR/MPI/HI/LOW fuel pumps. Ill post a video when its done
Dope set up