Let's Make - Battlefield Craters! (Battlefield Basics Series)
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2016
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In this Let's Make, we look at making battlefield craters to add a little devastation to your table! We'll cover a few techniques and the major principles of doing craters so you can build whatever craters you want!
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"Clump foliage indicator" 😂😂😂 Brilliant!
"Clump foliage indicators". Hahah I know them well but had a different phrase for it. Brilliant!
Always thought that there'd be more that went into making these, but they look like something even I could make
to make them deeper you could put a few thin pieces of blue foam/ foamboard/ polystyrene so you can dig in to them
Great stuff, Mel. I like how you show different techniques on making them.
I've not seen the foil tray method before and I think it does have some merit actually. You could potentially use the shaped tray as a mould for casting plaster which would give you a cheap supply of quick and easy forms to put texture on that is going to withstand a decent amount of punishment and be heavy enough that it wont slide around too much.
As soon as I saw that I felt a bit silly! Time to get some pukka pies in lad!!!! Mince pie and mini mince pies tines perfect!
I wanted meteor craters but its a very good Job
All your videos are great, I don't even do this war game stuff or make anything related, but the videos are just great and i can't stop watching them.
Welcome to the hobby mate, crack on! ;-)
Mel always a pleasure watching your videos 50% of my terrain is inspired by you
Another excellent video Mel. As someone who has been viewing your stuff for well over a year now I'd like to compliment you on the improvements in your production quality on vids. Awesome job. Kudos to you sir.
I'm getting there bud, bit more tweaking to go!
Great work Mel!
Clump foliage indicator! witty! loved every minute of this video and just tried my very first impact crater. Used some old plumber's putty, got the shape right, hot glued it to mdf base, compound glue and fine grit (fine sawdust)... will combine pva and paint tomorrow and add the base coat. Will then add 100pc pva to seal, dry brushing, dabbing etc... pva and flock. I want the actual centers to look very dark... loved the techniques taught and demonstrated by the terrain tutor! will add clump foliage according to the indicators.
Cracking vid Mel,you make it look quite simple....& as others have noted,I like the way you work out your foliage markers :)
05:27 - Exploding Musician :) Wonderful mental image.
great idea on materials used,
Great video. I was like. Hmm dsn't look that good, dsn't look that good and at the end. Wow that looks really good.
A great video, and a great terrain shape. You could easily turn these into ponds, lava craters, mud pits, or, obviously, craters. Great video.
Crack on!
Thanks really enjoyed this how to. Can't wait to do it myself.
I have made a couple of craters now. Used an air drying paper clay. It shrunk some and came loose after drying so I had to glue it back on with superglue. It will look super nice with my 3D printed buildings. Great video Mel!
Superglue for the win!
You shouldnt keep your darkness inside. If you do it will consume you. ;-)
I love DAS, its fun to play with. Putting a bit of PVA down first will help it stick better. It doesnt have much adhesion by itself when it dries.
Great little video Mel, thanx.
Bill, you've just saved my sanity. My lovely clay rings slipped clean off the mdf once dry. Cheers mate.
Liked the craters Mel.
I have a bunch of old CD:s saved for this kind of thing. I really have to get my crate on ;)
very innovative.... hats off to you sir....
Those look "flocking" fantastic!
Thanks bud
The British version of Bob Ross. Happy little 3d trees.(or impact craters) great stuff, cheers!
Thank you.
I love how the sub title say "hi guys its mel the traines shooter" 😂😂
job done
Nice job, very easy to reply, thx
Tack!
Awesome, thank you!
I'm surprised the triple holes went center to side to other side. As you say, they are usually sequential so I would have thought right to left or left to right, depending on how the cannon was rotated.
Good job making these so accessible, Mel.
Probably going way to serious :). But other factors can affect trajectories of artillery shells, cannon balls and bombs. like change in wind direction (which affects long distance shots). Also manufacture quality of the gun and shell can cause variation, which can cause shots to lean side to side or fall short of the target. both could explain the pattern of craters on Mel's piece. Any how they are brilliant and simple to make craters!
Agreed. I was thinking specifically ACW cannon fire, but you are correct.
All good answer but it's kinda down to that's the most memorable layout for me
really good. I like it a lot, just one thing they look kinder old looking creators, by any chance could you show how you would do them just blown up or say years older. I think on a larger gaming bored that's has that much fighting on or little fight would look really cool.
Молодец автор. Хорошие модели.
Well done to the author. Good model.
Hi Mel, I have a request, on a similar note to this one. I want to make a crater, but in a different way.
Basically I want to make an impact crater that look like the corner of something heavy has falled onto a tiled floor, or someone has taken a hammer to a windshield of a car, the indented circular rings of impact. My plan is to have a 40k space marine in the process of landing, and like a superhero punching a hole into the floor, with all the dust kicked up around the crater.
Yeah!
Yeah?
Wonderful vid Mel! Cheap and easy!
I would LOVE to see a video showing off YOUR terrain collection set up on your gaming table. I think it would be cool to see the end result of all of the various terrain elements you are teaching us to make. Thanks!
Hey Mel. Don't know if you have a catchphrase for your channel, but I think you just made one when you said "You've seen it, you can do it." Sums up the channel I think.
Great vid again.
if I had enough money I'd be willing to spare some but as it is I'm skint ._.
10/10 craters
Great job Mel, how are you sealing them, I heard purity seal made the flock go frosty?
Watered down PVA glue, is the standard go-to Mel uses.
Ah right, thanks
Do you have a video on all the stuff you have available to make terrain? I'd love a quick guide on tools and paints.
Check the back to basics playlist bud, there's a few in there
Fantastic video series Mel. Just curious whether you would use the same technique for making foxholes? I'm considering making some scatter pieces which are foxholes for a Battle of the Bulge scenario. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
I'd use the fire trenches I did in the trenchs lets make mate
🚂 Air drying clay and PVA usually is a great mix 😸
thank you so much for these videos, ive been watching them all evening! given me so many ideas :)
where do you get your sheets of foam from? and in a previous tutorial you purchased a piece of bark. can i ask where you got that from too please?
Netpetshoponline and Jackodur KF300 High strength Extruded Polystyrene (XPS) 1250mm x 600mm - Lining Boards - Roof - Insulation
Thank you kindly good sir!
Clump foliage indicators. 😂
I have a question regarding flock. I tried to flock some bases lately but it keeps falling off, tried sticking it by spraying sprayglue all over it but now it's very sticky. That also creates a reall mess. Got any tips to stop the flock from falling off? Keep up the great work, love your channel!
Don't water down the pva too much when you glue it down and then remember to seal it with watered down pva
Very nice tutorial.
Could you provide a link which turf you used?
www.javis.co.uk
Thanx buddy.... let's check out if the deliver to Germany
HTL World, bei Karstadt haben die, meines Wissens, auch modeliermasse :D
Can I, like, fill the metal mold with hot glue? Sure it wont deform if someone sits on it.
Mel could you add your basing material to the filler before it dries? it looks wet enough that it would stick if you know what I mean. Have you tried?
@TheTerrainTutor do you have tutorial on how to build those bases? i would love to learn
They're just either 3mm mdf or a cd mate
Been watching your tutorials, and "thank you"
As I watched this one, I was wondering how you would take this concept, but instead make it look like a tree fell over and the root ball pealed away from the earth...
No reason why not mate
Why not use the underside of the tin dish crater as a mould for better and stronger material
If you're going to do have, you might as well just make it out of other material matey
Great video, thanks. Having a bit of a prob though. Left clay to dry overnight and when I came back to them they weren't stuck to mdf anymore. Loose circles of hardened clay. Any idea what I may be doing wrong? Can I just stick down the circles to the mdf now with glue? Cheers 👍
Sounds like they didn't bind, next time a little water on the base will help a lot mate, with the current piece, just glue them back on with a little pva mate ;-)
+TheTerrainTutor all sorted Mel. I am the proud new owner of 6 snowscape craters. You are a bloomin' genius mate. My son is chuffed to bits 👍
Use the foil crater as a mould
Why not reinforce the back of pie plate with a hard foam like Mono? That should make it crush resistant while still giving you decent proportions with which to start.
you'd still have the shiny cracks issue and if you're going to use foam, you might as well make it from foam mate
the background is after ever piece that we don't see other
Mel I picked up some of the older GW craters (not the new two part ones with skulls n skulls and some skulls ammo boxes and a pinch of skulls) I don't have grassy boards so what would you recommend sprucing up these with? Just rocks n gravel with perhaps a dash of building bits from the building kits? I know I know I should be making these myself and believe me I would truly love to but I am bogged down in army painting and just don't have the time. One day matey. Cheers :)
a bit of mud and grit mate, just around the bottoms
Thanks matey -appreciate it.
Would chip board be any good for this kind of thing since plywood is so expensive these days?
If you can get it thin enough mate
where did you get that Hyrule map on your wall?
Forbidden Planet, but its online here - www.allposters.co.uk/-sp/The-Legend-Of-Zelda-Hyrule-Map-Posters_i15093009_.htm
How do you seal the flocking ? new viewer love your work!
watered down pva
Thanks
Using a squirt bottle is helpful and easy for application.
could you use cracked egg shells to represent the compressed cracked earth in the center, I have used egg shells on things like dried lakes
I suppose you could but it would probably suit concrete/urban rather than field craters mate
Yeah your right it's better for that I'm still doing a siege project and owe alot of my success to your brilliant vids :-)
Have you ever tried the paper mache method?
now that's especially cheap :D
not for craters as such
Hey brother very nice job but what do you mean when you said house paint??
matt walling and ceiling paint
Doing the air dry clay but using a old cd as base. Seems like the clay will pull away or curls or cracks... anyway tricks to help prevent some of this.
Fill any gaps with a bit of filler mate but wetting the cd before applying the DAS really helps
Might be a silly question but how do you add your pre made scenery to your battlefield or diorama ? I’m very new to this and wanting all the intel I can gather. Thanks
Normally it just needs basing in a similiar style mate
TheTerrainTutor thanks mate, I’m new to this and currently working overseas. When I get home I want to start my own Diorama. I have been watching all your videos and it’s been amazing and given lots of sound advice. I’m a former royal marine and have been looking for some inspiration from your videos. Thanks for the response
You are making the Flock itself or buy in the store?
How to make a Flock?
Thanks for the answer
Javis Scenics is where I get mine
TheTerrainTutor Thank you. I was sure that you produced it himself😉
TheTerrainTutor Maybe you know how to do flock to the house? Maybe filings (sawdust), PVA and paint?
Were do you get your grit from.
sieved ballast
I know I'm probably one of the only ones that noticed it, but does anyone else notice his Water Boy reference? The water bottle says "high quality H2O."
Only the best for my terrain!
What is PVA? American equivalent?
Elmers
Well your videos I haven't made a shrine or anything..... honest
yeah?=
You ever experiment with the meltable/moldable plastic stuff? I made some myself (ua-cam.com/video/dex4sYIL-8o/v-deo.html), but I'm sure you could do a much better job. Would be interested to see what you can do with it.
Never seen the stuff before and by the looks of it, they don't ship to the UK mate
Bummer! It's fun stuff, you'd like it!
welll whas nopt say a thing but thare is a number 3 way of macking the scortch and its well tack a lighter or candel and well scortch it but that cant be dun by yunger viewers yes you burn your self and that not fun so the fist two are best just paint will see more and see on sun day ;;;;]]]]
I suppose you could dump your used paper towels or excess plaster in the tin foil and just "glue" it with some filler to use destruction as a chance for recycling,but I'm sure there's another creative way doing that without the foil as well.
I like your more compact way of presentation by leaving out repetition, by the way,but wouldn't it save even more time if you shorten your explanation of what you're going to do and just do a transition into what you have done? Like "I glue this piece on and continue..." *crossfade on circle* "...until I have a circle like this." -Just an idea to support your proactivity in this matter.
That a bit like the build overviews mate, I'm trying to keep the let's make concise but I (it's a me thing) still feel that I should show each step being done, even if only a small part. It feels more like teaching than explaining that way ;-)
I know, mate. I liked the old tutorials and I always enjoyed your rambling as well, but I also understand the appeal of professional development for your patreons and additional viewers and I'm sure you won't scare your old followers away by tightening the flow of your videos. I must admit you made big steps the last months or even weeks so I'm happy if I can help by supplying my observation. I'm not saying you should leave out things that need deeper explanation. But if you review the bit I was referring to or some of the moments in the sandbag video, these are rather easy bits you first explain and then kind of repeat it by showing. If you mix that up and bring your explanation into the part where you present the result of your repetitve action (that you left out) you'll be straightening that up for the viewer, who will receive both info and result at once in a single package. Either way, it's the content I'm interested in, so I'm watching anyway, but I think it will push your presentation foreward a tiny bit.
Completely get what you're saying mate and agree but like many things on here, they may not be the right way to produce vids but it feels right to me. Essentially, you're right, I know you're right but I don't want to offend you by saying I'm still doing it my way, I just feel so strongly (personally) that I should explain and show. That being said, I am making a mental note to move towards explaining while showing, after pointing it out, I have noticed there's a definitive theory then practical approach that runs as an undertone to my vids.
Just to give you a heads up, the original in-depth stuff hasn't stopped, just a break while I get settled into the new studio. The plan is to have an equal balance between lets make (complete pieces) and in-depth (technique/technical) vids in the future. I hoping the nature of the let's makes (actually building complete stuff) will let me off the hook on the indepth stuff, so I can go really indepth (and ramble) on very focused topics without having to produce a full finished piece with all the added instructions.
Fingers crossed, those that just want to know how to build xy and z will have complete focused tutorials with the lets makes and the true terrainiacs will have the indepth stuff to expand their skill base without the added repetition.
Feel free to give it a month and feedback again, although no too frequently, I'm a rather slow typer so can't promise such a comprehensive answer as this time but I thought you deserved the effort on this ;-)
Glad you're giving this a thought, mate and your efforts are much appreciated. I'm probably a much faster typer than I'm a thinker in English as it is still my second language. So that is what slows me down a bit.
Anyway, even if I wouldn't like you, you wouldn't offend me by having your own way. I expect people to be honest as anything else is just distracting. I know you're a reasonable person and take your time considering things, so it's all fine. :)
I also don't think there's a wrong way in doing videos, just conventions viewers are trained to receive. This can be even seen as a tool in theory, break patterns and codes to archieve a certain effect or follow them to guide recipients.
I also think the theory then practical has it's place with the in-depth sections. That's your scientific proposal of what, how and why you want to research before you start experimenting and then finish with your analysation. Of course it makes sense as basic structure for a let's make as well, but it's a question of economics in detail how you process the presentation. I'm just watching the channel for a year or so, but it's enough to have recognized you experimenting with speeding up or jump cutting so I think there's the itch in you to make it more compact compared to just letting it roll like in the beginning. And I think for the let's makes it's the perfect approach to be more compact, because average viewers neither have time nor patience.
Believe me, I've been writing music and movie reviews for two decades and I'm still on the painfull route of killing my darlings, that's how they call getting rid of your habbits, don't they? So maybe if you want to make these videos more compact, try setting up goals. That's what I learned about writing, where goals can be to analyze yourself when writing and try to use or avoid certain types of words or stay within limits. That's like learning to gain control.
A thinkpiece of my pointed out example probably would be ask yourself if you're explaining things that are going to be (self-)explained. Like "I'm going to play you music while I'm doing this" and then you play music. People will get that anyway. If I were you and wanted to play with my viewers, I'd shoot a complete video without yeahs and watchacallits, you know we love for this, so just try to tease with it and see if anything happens. If you're crazy enough look at this video and think about how much more you could speed up something in the same vein and then try doing it even two or three minutes faster. I know you're creative, so maybe to archieve this you discover overdubbing as an off-narrator in the middle section will help you tighten that part for example. You've taken so many huge steps recently I'm curiously waiting what surprise you come up with next and of course I'm looking forward to the more in-depth stuff as well.
I guess in the end we're all tinkerers loving whatever we do and trying to get better at it our pace and that's what makes us "alike". Hope you take my feedback as positive and encouraging as it's ment, because I sure wouldn't take the time watching and taking part if I wouldn't appreciate what you created with the channel, mate. So, let's make! :)
That's a lot to take in mate, baby steps hey lol
mmmhhh ....too perfectly round ...a crater created by a bomb shell should be deeper and irregular in shape ...isn't it ?
This looks nothing like Kratos