One thing of note, you should not pull Rage Winterchill to Jaina, because if you do, it is very likely she will die to the death and decay, which will make the boss despawn and make you have to do all the trash waves again.
@@jakobbrun6535 You have to not have Jaina even aggro to the boss, because otherwise she runs to melee him (as any mage would!) and will get hit by any d&d that is cast on the melee.
Really? I mean we got him like 3rd or 4th try on PTR after 1-shotting all the prior bosses. The whole run took like 1.5 hours. Kind of disappointing tbh.
@@CarnifaxMachine Ok, and what exactly are you trying to tell me? Back in the days of vanilla tbc Archimonde was considered a guildbreaker. I guess people were not so ambiciously oganized than these days.
@@dontcare9005 Back in vanilla tbc, people were bad lol. so many bosses were called guild breakers but didn't do shit to people who have access to all this info.
That's called a lynchpin boss and it sucks. It's just bad design, as it makes all effort but the effort of the weakest link meaningless. If this was later expensions with more support abilities to offset weak performance... It would be ok i guess.
Are you sure you’re suppose to pull the boss to Jania? Pretty sure you’re actually not supposed to do this. This is going to cause groups issues if she dies and they won’t know why. This needs to be fixed.
As always, you shouldn't be just thinking about yourself. You should be thinking about the other 24 members of your raid. If you are in hardcore guild then you have no reason to even be posting this, because it's a waste of your time. Yet for some reason, here you are.
It's Jaina and Thrall for both factions. Jaina is the first camp, Thrall is the second. Edit: I realize this is what you meant but your wording is unclear
I absolutely HATE this raid more than any other that I've done in classic or tbc. I'm an unlucky melee who gets targetted by sleeps, stuns, cripples, doom more than anyone else in my raid (by a wide margin, confirmed by logs) and always at the worst times (during CD/lust phases).
@d0k0night wtf do those two have to do with each other? I mean I'd be mad too if my guild hasn't cleared everything yet too but....eventually they will nerf it for you
I really like the quality of editing you do. Good stuff!
One thing of note, you should not pull Rage Winterchill to Jaina, because if you do, it is very likely she will die to the death and decay, which will make the boss despawn and make you have to do all the trash waves again.
Cant you "just" not stand any players close to Jaina? D&D targets players, as I understand it.
@@jakobbrun6535 You have to not have Jaina even aggro to the boss, because otherwise she runs to melee him (as any mage would!) and will get hit by any d&d that is cast on the melee.
@@Klaital1 I'm a mage and I approve this melee attack.
I stopped watching the video when he said stuff about the pvp trinket :D Even on buffed servers in pug groups you dont do that.
@@dontowelie1302 People still use it, why you looking up guides if you think you know everything.
the title of the video is not a lie, THIS is really the only MH guide u will need. Thx
We had a guild meeting about it yesterday for like an hour. This was easier way to learn what to do. Great job
Great video! This will definitely be on my second screen during these raids :)
Clean, to the point, no hot air. /thumbsup
To me Archimonde is one of the hardest and also one of the best bosses ever made. Like you are as strong as your weakest link.
Really? I mean we got him like 3rd or 4th try on PTR after 1-shotting all the prior bosses. The whole run took like 1.5 hours. Kind of disappointing tbh.
Oh boy. My guild is in trouble lol
@@CarnifaxMachine Ok, and what exactly are you trying to tell me? Back in the days of vanilla tbc Archimonde was considered a guildbreaker. I guess people were not so ambiciously oganized than these days.
@@dontcare9005 Back in vanilla tbc, people were bad lol. so many bosses were called guild breakers but didn't do shit to people who have access to all this info.
That's called a lynchpin boss and it sucks.
It's just bad design, as it makes all effort but the effort of the weakest link meaningless. If this was later expensions with more support abilities to offset weak performance... It would be ok i guess.
THANKS NOW I KNOW HOW TO DO MT HYJAL :)
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This is a great guide well done
You cannot remove sleep on anetheron.
can i use my undead racial on it?
@@Connor-gz4jv nope
Tremor totem doesn't remove it either?
@Klaital1 no we couldn't find anything that would remove it
Someone tried ice block?
Isn't it a bad idea to get jaina aggro'd onto the KT clone boss? She stands in death and decay and dies which is a wipe
just soloed this thx for all the info
Dude, you rule. Thanks a bunch.
nice guide. thumps up!
Can you use Grounding Totem on Winterchill's Icebolt?
Doesn't death and decay also hit Jaina and wipe the raid then?
It does
Does Living Action Potion work on Rage Winterchill ?
In the horde camp bosses seems easier than the trash :D :D
Amazing I'll be sending guildies you way ty
Hi what is it for wa out of range totem ?
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What are those addons you're using? I like the one that shows your character and the target
At 9:09 the priest gets knocked down. What is that mechanic? I don't see it mentioned anywhere.
And what happens if boss casts fear right after the airburst? Can those mechanics even overlap? That's just a wipe, isn't it?
That's cause someone in the raid died and archimonde used a soul charge.
Nice video! Any chance you can share that plater profile btw?! :D
Whats that Spriest UI? looks sick
There is no timeline on the video as you showed
wont death and decay kill jaina?
Horde and Allianz have the same people to talk to. First two Bosses are Jaina, followed up by Thrall with Boss 3 and 4...
Where is the WA for the tear?
Is it true, that the Mark of Kaz"rogal may be removed by Ice Block or Bubble? Thanks folks!
No its not
Is the trash farmable for reputation until the first boss? Seems to be conflicting information available.
Idk if you found your answer but yes.
make something about dark moon card plz
Can you remove Ice Block from Rage with Living Action Potion?
I've been stocking up on those. Would love to know this as well!
Also wonder if you can pre pop free action potions to avoid it.
does shifting phase as a druid break the freeze?
no
@@SneazingWalrus okay i didn’t know about this, trinket ready regardless
will free action potions prevent the need of needing a pvp trinket for first boss?
There is no need for trinket lol
Gotta wait on lust anyways I guess...
Are you sure you’re suppose to pull the boss to Jania? Pretty sure you’re actually not supposed to do this. This is going to cause groups issues if she dies and they won’t know why. This needs to be fixed.
let me get that elv ui profile :0
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As a BM hunter I won't be using the pvp trinket. I can get out with bestial wrath and living action potion.
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Holy shit i forgot how dumb that raid was.
I hope we can just outperform it.
if u need a weakaura for when to use tear of the godess good luck in life
As always, you shouldn't be just thinking about yourself. You should be thinking about the other 24 members of your raid. If you are in hardcore guild then you have no reason to even be posting this, because it's a waste of your time. Yet for some reason, here you are.
I hate this place. Still hate it after my guild got this place on farm.
EZ CLAP BOIS
It's Jaina and Thrall for both factions. Jaina is the first camp, Thrall is the second.
Edit: I realize this is what you meant but your wording is unclear
I absolutely HATE this raid more than any other that I've done in classic or tbc. I'm an unlucky melee who gets targetted by sleeps, stuns, cripples, doom more than anyone else in my raid (by a wide margin, confirmed by logs) and always at the worst times (during CD/lust phases).
First
THIS IS THE SHIT
Archimonde only needs one tank and is not a DPS race so the offtanks can get the attention of the flames and run them straight out of the raid.
And how do they "get the attention" of the flames?
they aren't tauntable dude 🤣
JUST TAUNT THE FLAMES DUDE ....
Archimonde is an absolute joke. His health pool is way too low. That weak aura that is "clickable" doesn't work so don't grief your raid.
So first you complain that Archie's too easy, then you compain that the WA isn't clickable and thus easysauce? Make up your mind.
@d0k0night wtf do those two have to do with each other? I mean I'd be mad too if my guild hasn't cleared everything yet too but....eventually they will nerf it for you
Everyone ready for the second worst raid ever? (toc forever will be the worst).
@@zStC1 it was bad because you did 4 lock outs a week lol
ToC is the best raid. Zero trash. Just in, kill, and you're done. Also it was very easy.
@@akira3871 Agreed. TOC was enjoyable and a change of pace. For once the bosses come to you, you don't go to them. Good to mix things up.