ATTENTION: Some updates from the Blizzard team. There will be some changes in Classic Fresh like Debuff/Buff limits being removed. This means we going to be able to use our dots like Siphon Life, Corruption, Immolate freely in raids making affliction specs viable and possibly better than our traditional spec DS/RUIN. This should make us better in PvE. There are also other changes, but less impactful. You can read the blue-post by Blizzard linked below. Source: www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/2007834-wow-classic-20th-anniversary-realms-information-updated-nov-18/
Any idea how big an impact this will have on DPS potential in raids? I typically play Rogue/Warrior - not because of the meta but because I enjoy the rage/energy mechanics more than mana, but I've been thinking of going a different direction this time around... and Warlocks have pets, plus they have cannibalize, so they are the most interesting of the other options.
Best 1v1 PvP class in Classic Era provided that you're good. And believe me, good warlocks are few and far inbetween. But when the best warlock is pitted against the best of other classes, the warlock always comes out on top. All the duel tournaments are an attestation to this reality, Soul Link or not
Have you got a warlock guide? Or are you planning on making one for classic fresh? Including things like gear progression, talents, keybinds and macros for pets would awesome!
I am about to embark on playing Warlock for the first time in a serious capacity. Been playing since 2004 and i can't wait to grow into the toolkit. Will follow for updates and tips along the way for sure.
idk about loosing to all the rogue and honestly fear is the least of a warlock problem if rogue is the hardest lock counter just go ORC the racial counter all the stun . but yeah UNDEAD look good other then that ORC is superior in classic for lock atleast that my opinion . and good video like always ! and love the pvp montage that u did last time .
Thanks! Unfortunately a good dagger rogue does not even need to rely so much on his stuns to beat a non SL warlock. A rogue should never lose this matchup unless Living Action Potion is involved, yet the rogue should still win. The stun resistance from being an orc helps a lot, especially against the rogues who comes unprepared. A good rogue will sap into cheap shot with auto attack disabled. This ensures the rogue that if he resists, the sap is still applied. A good shadow reflector into damage spam can really be enough to kill us and yes, while Orc is helpful... it is not enough to beat a top end rogue, you also rely on a 30% chance to possibly win. In terms of superiority, Orc and Undead excel in different parts of PvP. I would not say one is better than the other in the bigger picture. I myself will be going Orc, its nice to have that stun resistance until Living Action Potions become available through Zul Gurub reputation in phase 4.
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I was playing SL demo build on my lock in the later stages of the original wow and the only time I lost to a rouge was when they used 10 min cd preparation and cloak of shadows twice. I still could have won that if I sacrificed my vw for a shield with a quick re summon. vw passively gives u 10% physical dmg resistance which adds up to 40% with SL so no melee should be able to kill u. this build suck for dps but u are basically unkillable in 1 on 1 situations and duels against any class if u have decent gear@@Soulboundx1
With the debuff cap removed, i'm rly looking forward trying out some SM nightfall multi dot spec. If its not higher dps then SB spam, atleast its aloooot more fun
would love to play warlock but theres one thing they have i just cant get over it with my weird perfectionist ass, pet names xD it bothers me so much its insane.. specially if the pet name is bad lol
Haha i feel you. I once saw a warlock on retail recreating his character until he ended up with the same name as his imp. I suppose he had a list of imp names that were possible to get and kept recreating his character with that name until it lined up with the imp name. True dedication xD
In retail you can pay 50g to the demon trainer and they will give you another random name for your pet, so you can just reroll the names over and over until you find decent ones for all demons. In classic you just gotta try to ignore it
Im stuck between rogue/warlock. I wanna do 50/50 pve pvp and im mostly looking to do solo stuff. I havent played lock before and a bit scared about the soul shard thing. How annoying is it? Should i just go rogue and deal with a lot of competition for raid spots and gear? What are your thoughts. Loved the video, most informing one ive seen so far :)
I never played warlock at all in wow classic. Now I want to play one on the new fresh servers, do you recommend it for someone who is completly new in this class? I want to play it on the pvp server. Do you think Iam able to survive pvp? I always played rogue and hunter and hat a win ratio of 70% against other players in open world pvp. I also want to start with a friend which is main warlock.
so im caught up between running holy/shadow priest or lock. i originally played rogue for many years but it is too time consuming to both level and to grind money for. i love 1v1s and wpvp, even hosted tournaments on retro wow and henhouse. what do you think now that there is dual spec permitted in fresh? should i go shadow or lock, or just stick with what i know?
The thing that infuriates me the most is that i like dueling alot outside capitals but i cant do that cause after a few duels i run out of shards and have to make the guy stop our fun and wait for me to go get more
@Soulboundx1 do you stop dueling and go farm shards or you keep doing it without shards?😅 seriously man having to farm shards even for dueling is a big letdown for me
Really enjoyed the video. I have a question: in 2019, I started leveling a warlock and a sweatlord friend of mine suggested me to play hunter because, at 60, there were already a lot of locks. What you can say about it? And thanks again for the content.
Is going gnome warlock gonna be a complete pain in the ass PvP wise? I've played horde in Era, but I wanna go alliance this time - But I purely play pvp
Gnome is fantastic, my warlock main is a gnome. Since we struggle with mobility, having an escape to roots and slows is perfect. You also have paladins on Alliance, probably your strongest duo and the best class to keep you alive, better than anything a shaman could ever do for you.
I found your channel a few days ago, as I’m playing warlock for Fresh. I joined your disc but I can’t seem to find your beautiful UI settings. Where should I look?
Nice video like the Others. Do you have any information, if the debuff limit is removed on fresh normal servers? For hardcore fresh it is removed. Thx mate
If the debuff limits are removed, immolate and corruption will most likely be incorporated into our rotation in the fights that allow the full duration of those dots. I dont necessarily think our talent points will change much--if at all.
I really can"t wait for Fresh, will you play EU or NA? i'm still not sure if i would go Hunter or Warlock, both seem to be a lot of fun in open world encounters, pvp wise. What is your take on hunter compared to lock?
I will be starting on EU. Im considering NA later on to play with my friends in Wooddepartment. Hunter is incredible, my first classic main. Its one of the strongest pvp classes, does incredibly well in solo and group pvp. The class kit itself might be simple, but It has a high mechanical skillcap. Hunter is one of those classes i have seen the highest skill difference in terms of bad and good ones. I specifically think Night Elf Hunter is extremely fun abusing Shadowmeld, watch Steelshots or Captains Hunter PvP and you will be amazed. Its not as strong as warlock in 1v1, their playstyle is very different and hard to compare. Id say watch some of my pvp videos and some of Steelshot/Captains hunter videos.
I will roll alliance... My problem is I despise how gnome looks...... Human female ? Man I've always played horde... Which tips as alliance warlock? I'll roll on pvp server too ! Maximum challenge ! BUt I feel like it's worth it. I've lurked on your channel for a long time. You're one of the best warlocks I've seen. You remind me of Goth, Seuche and Elenoire.
Thanks! Gnome is for sure better than Human. But gnome is not what it used to be, there was a change to the gnome racial escape artist, it can now resist, this make it somewhat weaker than it used to be, but still better than Human. I don't think Human is a bad choice anymore. Human is also what you will want to be in TBC arena, so if you are planning ahead for TBC, human is another bonus choice.
I say go with what you want. For PvP Orc is probably better because of their stun resist racial. It could sometimes be a win factor to have. Undead may have a slight edge in PvE but it's very niche. Their devour ability is good to use on cooldown to limit downtime and their extended underwater breathing can help kill time on certain quests that require you to take a dive but other than that, Orc aren't terribly far behind in PvE environment.
Do not worry, the population of warlocks most definitely increase, but it doesn't make it that much harder to find raid spots if that's what you are worried about.
Gnome: Best choice. Escape Artist (1-min CD) lets you escape slows/roots, which is game-changing in PvP. it can resist, which makes it not as good as it used to be. Human: Weak choice. Perception (stealth detection) is niche and has limited use for Warlocks. Good choice if planning ahead to TBC PvP.
What you see on the screen is mainly: Dominos for the action bars. Rougeui for the player frames. Kui Nameplates for the nameplates. Full Custom UI available for twitch subs on my discord channel.
If that is the case, immolate and corruption will most likely be incorporated into our rotation in the fights that allow the full duration of those dots. I dont necessarily think our talent points will change much.
GuideMMO made a vid yesterday called “5 BIG changes to classic fresh servers”. At 3:29 he mentions dual spec, but I didn’t hear him say these are changes he’d “like to see” when I watched the video 😅
Thats fair, we all have different tastes! Scarlet Raid sounds fun, i might level just to experience that, although im not a fan of the current and past state of SoD. It feels abit too retail-like and the community seems quiet dead for my personal taste.
ATTENTION:
Some updates from the Blizzard team. There will be some changes in Classic Fresh like Debuff/Buff limits being removed. This means we going to be able to use our dots like Siphon Life, Corruption, Immolate freely in raids making affliction specs viable and possibly better than our traditional spec DS/RUIN. This should make us better in PvE.
There are also other changes, but less impactful. You can read the blue-post by Blizzard linked below.
Source: www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/2007834-wow-classic-20th-anniversary-realms-information-updated-nov-18/
what would our raid spec look like and will it change over time to naxx comapred to mc
Dunno if it really makes a difference, as the main issue for WL is aggro.
So out of lock shadow and mage which would you choose for mostly PvP with maybe some pve in there with debuff limit gone
i wish they would have give us drain soul that give shards when damaging just like they did in SOD .
Any idea how big an impact this will have on DPS potential in raids?
I typically play Rogue/Warrior - not because of the meta but because I enjoy the rage/energy mechanics more than mana, but I've been thinking of going a different direction this time around... and Warlocks have pets, plus they have cannibalize, so they are the most interesting of the other options.
Best 1v1 PvP class in Classic Era provided that you're good. And believe me, good warlocks are few and far inbetween. But when the best warlock is pitted against the best of other classes, the warlock always comes out on top. All the duel tournaments are an attestation to this reality, Soul Link or not
Thanks mate. I decided to play this class because of your videos. Easy to learn, hard to master.
Keep us updated plz :) waiting for the new one’s❤
perfect intro to warlocks. see you in Fresh! looking forward to more videos from @Soulbound!
Thanks! 💜
Here we go again I suppose
So weird I was binging your videos just before this to see what lock is like. Thanks!
Have you got a warlock guide? Or are you planning on making one for classic fresh? Including things like gear progression, talents, keybinds and macros for pets would awesome!
I am about to embark on playing Warlock for the first time in a serious capacity. Been playing since 2004 and i can't wait to grow into the toolkit. Will follow for updates and tips along the way for sure.
2004 OG :o
idk about loosing to all the rogue and honestly fear is the least of a warlock problem if rogue is the hardest lock counter just go ORC the racial counter all the stun . but yeah UNDEAD look good other then that ORC is superior in classic for lock atleast that my opinion . and good video like always ! and love the pvp montage that u did last time .
Thanks!
Unfortunately a good dagger rogue does not even need to rely so much on his stuns to beat a non SL warlock. A rogue should never lose this matchup unless Living Action Potion is involved, yet the rogue should still win.
The stun resistance from being an orc helps a lot, especially against the rogues who comes unprepared. A good rogue will sap into cheap shot with auto attack disabled. This ensures the rogue that if he resists, the sap is still applied. A good shadow reflector into damage spam can really be enough to kill us and yes, while Orc is helpful... it is not enough to beat a top end rogue, you also rely on a 30% chance to possibly win. In terms of superiority, Orc and Undead excel in different parts of PvP. I would not say one is better than the other in the bigger picture.
I myself will be going Orc, its nice to have that stun resistance until Living Action Potions become available through Zul Gurub reputation in phase 4.
I was playing SL demo build on my lock in the later stages of the original wow and the only time I lost to a rouge was when they used 10 min cd preparation and cloak of shadows twice. I still could have won that if I sacrificed my vw for a shield with a quick re summon. vw passively gives u 10% physical dmg resistance which adds up to 40% with SL so no melee should be able to kill u. this build suck for dps but u are basically unkillable in 1 on 1 situations and duels against any class if u have decent gear@@Soulboundx1
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Was thinkin the same but not decided male or female.
Mind set is look good pvp good:)
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I hope they raise the health of raid bosses to compensate for the debuff limit
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@@Soulboundx1 I'm tanking this time around we will get you set immediately. Just say the word. Looking forward to the streams/vids!
With the debuff cap removed, i'm rly looking forward trying out some SM nightfall multi dot spec. If its not higher dps then SB spam, atleast its aloooot more fun
It should be the new go to spec.
Hey dude did you play the game with unlimited debuff table? Can warlocks uses Curses now and Corruption and Immolation?
would love to play warlock but theres one thing they have i just cant get over it with my weird perfectionist ass, pet names xD it bothers me so much its insane.. specially if the pet name is bad lol
Haha i feel you. I once saw a warlock on retail recreating his character until he ended up with the same name as his imp. I suppose he had a list of imp names that were possible to get and kept recreating his character with that name until it lined up with the imp name. True dedication xD
@@Soulboundx1 thats true dedication indeed :D only to end up with a name like Pizpanz
In retail you can pay 50g to the demon trainer and they will give you another random name for your pet, so you can just reroll the names over and over until you find decent ones for all demons. In classic you just gotta try to ignore it
Hey mate, awesome video! Sorry to bother you, but how's Shaman Ele/Resto in PvP (bg) lvl 60? Is it any good withou BIS gear?
Im stuck between rogue/warlock. I wanna do 50/50 pve pvp and im mostly looking to do solo stuff. I havent played lock before and a bit scared about the soul shard thing. How annoying is it? Should i just go rogue and deal with a lot of competition for raid spots and gear? What are your thoughts. Loved the video, most informing one ive seen so far :)
Do you have a video or document regarding your UI?
Great video man! Can you also list down what addons you use to get your UI looking so crisp?,
Along with addons to see enemy cds?
Good video. Subbed
holy moly batman soulbound speaking video? BOING
I never played warlock at all in wow classic. Now I want to play one on the new fresh servers, do you recommend it for someone who is completly new in this class? I want to play it on the pvp server. Do you think Iam able to survive pvp?
I always played rogue and hunter and hat a win ratio of 70% against other players in open world pvp.
I also want to start with a friend which is main warlock.
so im caught up between running holy/shadow priest or lock. i originally played rogue for many years but it is too time consuming to both level and to grind money for. i love 1v1s and wpvp, even hosted tournaments on retro wow and henhouse. what do you think now that there is dual spec permitted in fresh? should i go shadow or lock, or just stick with what i know?
Its a decision you--yourself only can make. Everyone is different in their own ways, enjoy different things.
Ty brother for the video
You are welcome!
The thing that infuriates me the most is that i like dueling alot outside capitals but i cant do that cause after a few duels i run out of shards and have to make the guy stop our fun and wait for me to go get more
That is truly one of the most annoying parts as a dueler warlock...
@Soulboundx1 do you stop dueling and go farm shards or you keep doing it without shards?😅 seriously man having to farm shards even for dueling is a big letdown for me
Really enjoyed the video. I have a question: in 2019, I started leveling a warlock and a sweatlord friend of mine suggested me to play hunter because, at 60, there were already a lot of locks. What you can say about it? And thanks again for the content.
Are you going to play on the PvP server? I want to but I can't no life leveling so I'm afraid. What's your plan? I need a guild no buiddies playing.
Yes i will play pvp server. Warlocks are always in demand, a raid spot should not be hard to find as long as you can raid consistently on raid nights.
Won't the warlock rotation change drastically if they remove the debut cap? Their dps should be way higher too as result
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Is going gnome warlock gonna be a complete pain in the ass PvP wise? I've played horde in Era, but I wanna go alliance this time - But I purely play pvp
Gnome is fantastic, my warlock main is a gnome. Since we struggle with mobility, having an escape to roots and slows is perfect. You also have paladins on Alliance, probably your strongest duo and the best class to keep you alive, better than anything a shaman could ever do for you.
@@Soulboundx1 Cool! Gnome it is then.
Which faction are you gonna main?
Don’t plan on playing lock or wow but watched the video nonetheless :)
I found your channel a few days ago, as I’m playing warlock for Fresh. I joined your disc but I can’t seem to find your beautiful UI settings. Where should I look?
Message me on discord or ask in general!
@@Soulboundx1will do, thanks.
Nice video like the Others.
Do you have any information, if the debuff limit is removed on fresh normal servers? For hardcore fresh it is removed.
Thx mate
If the debuff limits are removed, immolate and corruption will most likely be incorporated into our rotation in the fights that allow the full duration of those dots. I dont necessarily think our talent points will change much--if at all.
I really can"t wait for Fresh, will you play EU or NA? i'm still not sure if i would go Hunter or Warlock, both seem to be a lot of fun in open world encounters, pvp wise. What is your take on hunter compared to lock?
I will be starting on EU. Im considering NA later on to play with my friends in Wooddepartment.
Hunter is incredible, my first classic main. Its one of the strongest pvp classes, does incredibly well in solo and group pvp. The class kit itself might be simple, but It has a high mechanical skillcap. Hunter is one of those classes i have seen the highest skill difference in terms of bad and good ones. I specifically think Night Elf Hunter is extremely fun abusing Shadowmeld, watch Steelshots or Captains Hunter PvP and you will be amazed. Its not as strong as warlock in 1v1, their playstyle is very different and hard to compare. Id say watch some of my pvp videos and some of Steelshot/Captains hunter videos.
I will roll alliance... My problem is I despise how gnome looks...... Human female ? Man I've always played horde... Which tips as alliance warlock? I'll roll on pvp server too ! Maximum challenge ! BUt I feel like it's worth it. I've lurked on your channel for a long time. You're one of the best warlocks I've seen. You remind me of Goth, Seuche and Elenoire.
Thanks! Gnome is for sure better than Human. But gnome is not what it used to be, there was a change to the gnome racial escape artist, it can now resist, this make it somewhat weaker than it used to be, but still better than Human. I don't think Human is a bad choice anymore.
Human is also what you will want to be in TBC arena, so if you are planning ahead for TBC, human is another bonus choice.
Can you make a vid like this for hunter and mage?
Orc or undead? Which is better? I'm planning to do 50/50 pve/pvp
I say go with what you want.
For PvP Orc is probably better because of their stun resist racial. It could sometimes be a win factor to have.
Undead may have a slight edge in PvE but it's very niche. Their devour ability is good to use on cooldown to limit downtime and their extended underwater breathing can help kill time on certain quests that require you to take a dive but other than that, Orc aren't terribly far behind in PvE environment.
@@xsteelfeverx8004unending breath, only thing undead beings is fear break, cannibalism, and looking cooler than orc
I want to play lock but worried about TBC where they become extremely popular
Do not worry, the population of warlocks most definitely increase, but it doesn't make it that much harder to find raid spots if that's what you are worried about.
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shards shards shards. No no no
Warlock is top tier DPS in TBC though....
That is true!
For Ali human or gnome ?
Gnome:
Best choice. Escape Artist (1-min CD) lets you escape slows/roots, which is game-changing in PvP. it can resist, which makes it not as good as it used to be.
Human:
Weak choice. Perception (stealth detection) is niche and has limited use for Warlocks. Good choice if planning ahead to TBC PvP.
wha UI addons are those? very clean
What you see on the screen is mainly:
Dominos for the action bars.
Rougeui for the player frames.
Kui Nameplates for the nameplates.
Full Custom UI available for twitch subs on my discord channel.
I think they are getting rid of the debuff cap like they did in SoD. Does this mean dot spec will now be viable in raid.
If that is the case, immolate and corruption will most likely be incorporated into our rotation in the fights that allow the full duration of those dots. I dont necessarily think our talent points will change much.
Orc or undead sir?
Both have their advantages. If you are like me and hate rogues with a passion... go Orc. if you are a tryhard Warsong Gulch player, i would go Undead.
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amazing video brother, maybe I will make a warlock after all
Why not! Its also a great class you can use for TBC next year :D
Thank you for me deciding to NOT roll warlock. Lmao
I heard we are getting dual spec in fresh
I doubt that, any links/source to this?
@ hang tight.
GuideMMO made a vid yesterday called “5 BIG changes to classic fresh servers”. At 3:29 he mentions dual spec, but I didn’t hear him say these are changes he’d “like to see” when I watched the video 😅
@@Bouldefeu2 I see. Well you never know what blizzard will do. They often do very random things. :D
@ blue post is up! Dual spec and no buff/debuff limits!
only a hand full of classes viable,constantly oom and zero rotation. classic classic is terrible no ty. sod all day.
Thats fair, we all have different tastes! Scarlet Raid sounds fun, i might level just to experience that, although im not a fan of the current and past state of SoD. It feels abit too retail-like and the community seems quiet dead for my personal taste.