My sister worked with Dale’s wife. His wife looked for him on vacation time every year. She even saw a shaman/medicine man who told her he suffered something to his head (head injury or stroke) and that he would be found off the regular trail. He has been found but no cause of death could be determined. Im glad she found him for her closure.
Sometimes I wonder, and if Dale went down that path, why did he physically feel bad and didn't tell his family? Did you walk too much and at some distant point you felt worse and fell dead? Uwu
I just wrote that on another comment, although it doesn't definitively explain what happened, I also said at the very least it hopefully provides her & the rest of his family some closure. That's very interesting too about what the shaman said, thanks for sharing that.
*Update.* Sadly, not too long after you posted this video, Dave Stehling’s remains were found 4.2 miles from where he was last seen. The police got an anonymous tip that a body was found in a remote, off-limits section of park. Due to the state of the remains, they couldn’t determine a cause of death. A bizarre ending to a bizarre disappearance.
Idk I’m starting to wonder about parallel universe’s, there’s been other stories where people can hear someone yelling for help but they never can find the lost person…
@@jennifervolden4611 I prefer to use Occam's razor and not seek paranormal or far-fetched explanations where regular one can be found. 1. Everybody lies 2. People mishear things
The parallel universe theory is commonly accepted in the upper echelons of the science community. "Paranormal" is seeing a puddle in an abandoned house and blaming it on the spirit that continues to haunt it even though there's water damage on the ceiling above it.
Hearing screams of help and being like we checked already is like losing your phone and having someone call it. Hearing it ring and going no I checked already
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. He was obviously in that area... that's bizarre. I can't believe the issue wasn't pushed further until he was found - especially since he was calling for help. Get some dogs out there, their smelling and hearing is way better than ours. 🤦♀️
you might think so, but the human brain is very good at hearing what it expects to hear. wind and water can make all sorts of human like sounds that your brain will interpret as whatever you are listening out for. They could well have combed every corner of that cave and found nothing. it is also possible they didn't look hard enough (and for some reason he stopped calling out while they looked for him down there?), but no reason to assume negligence. In all honesty I legitimately can't imagine any grown adult getting lost at Mesa Verde or deciding not to carry a bottle of water with them at all times in that kind of environment. Everyone in this story except the girl who decided not to go looking for him by herself is at fault.
Yea the fact that he retells all these stories is fantastic. I love the missing 411 genre but personally I can't take listening to David Paulides tell these stories. He drones on and gets sidetracked nonstop. Very hard to follow. Mr. Ballen gives a very concise version with little to no fat.
@@darrylmarshall3301 dave paulides was years of research and books into all strange disappearances b4 any one . to not give dave credit on one of daves investigation would be deceitful is why i respect it . and your comment is fuked up in general . if you followed the topic you might know why
@@my11badkids78 Dave tells the story like a detective would and does . mr ballen is a very good story teller . all depends how deep and how much time you want to get into the subject .
Thank you for giving Dave the credit for all his hard work. He has never had a problem with anyone sharing his info, but a lot of people just use it with no credit for him. You are a standup guy, which is why I enjoy your vids so much.
I believe this girl had a mental break. And needs medicine. We have someone like that in our family. They do stuff like that and will keep doing stuff like that until the mental illness is diagnosed by a doctor. If they dont take their medicine they will have another mental break. Sometimes it's hard to get them back to normal. It's not unusual for someone like that to just jump in their car and just drive off somewhere without any thought of where their going. Or why. We deal with that kind of stuff all the time.
About a year ago my husband introduced me to this channel and we started watching it together when new stories come out. We’re adventurous people, we like hiking and exploring, building and fixing things, trying something new etc. But ever since we started watching this channel before we do something that seems a little dangerous we ask ourselves if this will make us into an episode. We’re much safer people thanks to this channel! 😂
Recently I ventured onto an overgrown 6 by I foot patch of my lot, which is in a residential area in clear view of the house, the sky, and neighbors' houses. Yet I was thinking "I must be crazy, walking into this tangle of weeds! One wrong step here, one twist of fate and I'll be a MrBallen story!"
Don't let this channel stop you from being adventurous. I'm an avid outdoors person as well, and I've had some of the best experiences outdoors. Granted most of my hiking experiences have been outside the United States. I don't really hike in America, actually.😂
Yeah. Especially that last case about Dale and how they heard him calling for help but couldn't find anyone. I really wonder if he fell into sinkhole. It reminds me of that one case where that guy was walking in his field (I think it was in like the early 1900s) and his wife is on the porch and his wife literally saw him disappear before her eyes. And she went out to where he was and she could barely hear him yelling for help and it sounded like it was underground. And so she called his brothers. And they could hear him calling for help too so they called in the police and volunteers and everyone started digging in that whole area where they heard him and after like 10 ft they hit bedrock. And he kept calling for help for days until he stopped.
I would haunt someone if it was foul play. Then again I do believe in Jesus and am not 100% sure that the saved walk among us and I think if they do it isn't for long. Jmo
Honestly, from the moment I found John’s channel, that’s all I can watch! I am constantly walking my dog at night on edge, but I just can’t stop. I can’t be the only one terrified and engulfed at the same time. He’s just so incredibly talented at bringing these stories to life! Respect and appreciation! Thank you 🙏🏻
I met a woman recently who suffers from some type of dissociative disorder and regularly runs miles ending up with no idea how she got to where she's found. She and her dog have to wear a tracking device so she can be found. She had suffered trauma whilst working in the military as a dog handler.
@@bonzo6826 god, thats a terrible thing to know after all these years. Im so sorry he ended up in Vietnam and I know how close troops become close to their dogs. The war they did not ask for
How sad for dale. He was RIGHT THERE, and they knew his voice had been coming from there from multiple reports, and they just gave up. Imagine your last moments being relieved you’d been found, only to be overlooked several times after which you die where you lay. I understand conditions were brutally hot, but it feels like if they had just kept looking where they knew the voice was coming from they would have found him.
Well it wasn't him, He also said that the rangers were receiving reports about the voice hours before Dale's situation. In an update, His body was found about 4-5 miles away from that place as well. It wouldn't make sense that he'd be hurt asking for help "Right there" & then suddenly be okay enough to walk 4 miles away from the area.
Unfortunately I've recently heard search and rescue professionals don't consider this man credible. The type of cases and the entire facts aren't presented. Like molding the stories into the crazy stories that people love to hear. Works for him, he sells the books!
@baltimorefan5642 When there's actual facts in police reports that aren't included in the book, then how is it someone dismissing things? The only one doing that is Missing 411.
The first story reminds me of a story I had read in college about this young 22yr old girl who had recently lost her mother and one night she randomly went to a near by lake and walked for 2days and found her mothers body she had no clue how she got there and called the cops she went missing for 3 days and people say she got “possessed “ by her own mother who guided her to the body for closure 🤷🏻♀️
It’s, “(the guys) all of whom are in excellent physical shape….” (Annnnd cue his buddies with ridicule and appropriate quotes such as: “look at the butt on that one!” “He must workout”)
Many years ago my very close friend and I hiked and camped on this very same area on the same creek. This was years before this young lady had gone missing. As we hiked in we kind of marveled at the fact there was ZERO wildlife. In the dense woods of N.W. Washington state its not uncommon to get into patches of woods where this is true, but this was for miles. The entire hike in we were both creeped out, speaking to one another often about it. Finally we came to a nice wide, flat spot along the creek and set up camp. My Buddy had a fire going and was in pretty good spirits, I how ever was still uneasy. That night we were both sleeping very fitful. I woke up to what sounded like a large animal running down the trail next to our tent, what was especially creepy was the breathing of the animal, it sounded like it was breathing very heavily, like I could hear panic in its breath. I have spent TONS of time deep in the woods of Washington around elk, deer and black bear, I’ve never heard an animal sound like that. The next morning we quickly packed up and headed back to the car, both of us looking over our shoulders. To this day we still talk about how weird that experience was.
Animals hunt one another in the night. They run away sometimes, that's probably what you heard and you should be happy they got away from the predator. If you factor in the effects of the permanent drought going on, you will realize native wildlife isn't finding enough food--they are literally starving in the forest. Invasive plants and insects don't help, they kill a lot of their trusted plant/animal sources as well.
Wow! I live in England & love going to parks & woods but they're not on your scale. First there's no predators like bears or wolves. They were hunted to extinction long ago. Then there's the false widow spider ( i'm so glad we don't have the real ones), which bite but survivable. Same with snakes, there are a few native to us but only one is venemous, the adder, which hasn't killed anyone since the 70s. I can't imagine putting the tent up & listening to breathing & movement all night. I would just 💩. Even with my husband & 2 big dogs beside me! Safe travels 🇬🇧🇺🇸
I've said this on another video and people are just laughing, ua-cam.com/video/0hH0YBMngHY/v-deo.html&lc=UgwD0T-FDS2BeO5F4Il4AaABAg.9Jl49zqJIWs9KTAepuTusV , but its very true what you're saying.
The reason why people are running away into the forest and not knowing why they did it, can I explain. The humans are a species that has started to become more affected by there instincts and are will become monkey in 300 years. LONG LIVE THE БЛИН 🥞
One of the commonalities in the Missing 411 series is search parties coming across the missing person's shoes and/or clothing, as though the person suddenly removed them, choosing to wander lost in the woods barefoot/naked. I find that so strange, even if one is disoriented/dazed it seems so odd that this would seem like a necessary thing to do. Anyone else find this really odd?
Maybe the shoes are starting to e uncomfortable after much walking and they slip them off but intending to put them on again, but something intervenes.
@@nalciel6577 The "paradoxical undressing" BS needs to end under the missing 411 posts. It's not a common occuring, it only happens in the very late stages of hypothermia, right before someone is dying and so people won't just take off their boots to walk a few miles barefoot while being moments away from dying
You most certainly do this unintentionally, but when you describe the huge manhunts that are launched all over the place… you restore my faith in humanity
Someone else commented this and a response said they advise against it because the brain makes them forget for a reason and hypnosis can almost re traumatise them
@@Thegreenpig22 actually think that's really stupid either way you're traumatized you have a whole part of your life that you don't remember and you don't think that's traumatizing
Came here from Corpse Husband's reading of search and rescue stories, and I feel so fortunate to have found Mr. Ballen to cover more of these in finer detail. Thanks John
Respect isn't given its earned. The fact you shouted out David Paulides and linked his channel is way more than other youtubers do. I respect that and I'm a big fan. You're an inspiration to my channel and im growing bc of that. Thank you for all you do. Keep these up
He’s brilliant this guy, only found his channel on Friday and have watched everything. Love Paulides from the first time a saw his talk at Mufon. Bob Gymlan is great too but it’s pure Bigfoot/Cryptid, his Dennis Martin video is beautifully done with the artwork.
This stuff needs to be National news this stuff is extremely bizarre nothing about this is normal there’s literally no explanation for an avid hunter to vanish without a trace
These missing 411 cases definitely needs more attention. Always baffled me. Hats off to David Paulides for his fine work. Thanks to this channel for re sharing his stories.
Literally just discovered this: Dale Stehling, the man from the last video, was found. His remains were found on September 17th, 2020, just a month after this video was released. He was found 4.2 miles away from where he was last seen. Along with his remains were personal items that contained identification. What is odd is how far he was found, the anonymous tip that led to the discovery, and that there was no indication of foul play.
The weird thing is the multiple reports of people hearing a male calling for help and the rangers not being able to locate him...? It's sad that he may have been pleading for help and people heard but failed to find him.... until 7 years later
Got nothing but sincere respect for you sir. Not only going thru the shit for your country. But then to have the integrity and character to admit, at no fault of your own, that your experiences scrambled a few of your eggs and using your epic storytelling abilities as a form of therapy is Galaxy Class assess and conquer instinct..... Truly Inspiring Sir!!! Thank you,,,,,for everything.
@@peachykellz yeah brother. ...he's the real deal!! He's been in situations for this country that movie producers couldn't come up with. You want to listen and learn from a man that has something to say??? Fuk top ten , he's the ONE mutha____r!!!!
Most if the time I listen at 5am on the treadmill in the basement. When I come back up stairs it's dark because my husband left for work and turned all the lights out on his way out the door. I has to ask him to leave a light on for me. 🤣
Based on some of the other stories MrBallen tells, my guess is that there was an old well, sink hole, or partially exposed cave somewhere right under everyone's feet, and Dale just happened to step on the hole just right, so as to fall right in. If it's a small opening, maybe along the side of a boulder with brush covering it, then it's understandable how they could hear but not actually find him. He's probably still down in that hole, and he's probably not the only one. That hole is probably awaiting more victims. Scarier than getting hit by lightning.
I've watched David Paulides do his missing 411 show and you can tell he cares deeply about missing people. Thank you John for putting these stories into such a compelling format so that more people are discovering the Missing 411 stories.
If he cared he wouldn't make up stories about how they went missing that imply supernatural events, nor bend the information to present it in a misleading tabloid fashion. He profits off these people by turning their disappearances into campfire tales riddled with deliberate inaccuracies that make them better 'stories'.
@@missm1548 how do you suppose these people ended up missing and their bodies found in strange circumstances ? Since you've done the research please shed some light
He takes time out of his videos to give his condolences to the family .. not only that.. he goes and personally meets the family. Mrballen literally has taken David's work and profited and not only that "if you're a fan of the strange dark and mysterious". But you're claiming David is the one twisting the stories and making it seem supernatural. Not sure what David has done for people to bad mouth him.
@@mariobtron5907 Just a quick read of the Wikipedia page about the Missing 411 makes it really clear how David Paulides intentionally changes normal stories into something paranormal. The guy's a freaking Bigfoot hunter too.
A friend of mine was having seizures where she could still function (driving, walking, eating, etc) but was super confused about what was going on around her and couldn't verbalize anything. They finally diagnosed the seizures and put her on a medication and she's ok now. I wonder if that (or similar conditions) explain some of these disappearances.
I wonder if there's some electromagnetic activity in certain places causing people to have atypical seizures. Hmmmm. Could be natural or human sourced, not saying it's supernatural or extraterrestrial. The likelihood of multiple people reaching travel or altitude fatigue in the same area is something else that could trigger seizures.
I randomly stumbled upon this channel and it’s been really helping me with my anxiety lately. I’m so glad there’s so many videos, Mr. Ballen’s voice is so soothing.
Lol. Hearing about people going missing & dying in the most horrible ways is helping you with your anxiety??? I guess as long as none of these things happen to you, you can feel less anxious about life because really, normal life is pretty boring
@@allisonjames2923 by comparison you think to your self: "my life is pretty good! I'm so thankful for my current situation. It could be worse like these stories". The feeling of gratitude can relieve anxiety I guess 😁 plus having someone telling you these stories seems like he is talking to you in person and can relief loneliness and seem like socializing in a way.
Whatever works I suppose lol. I mean years ago I used to watch The Real Housewives of whatever County to make myself feel better about MY life so you know there is that. I didn't have anxiety, Its just man you can't watch those chicks N NOT feel better about your OWN life that's all I'm saying. LOL
I suffer bad anxiety to v think mrballens calming voice and the passion drive for telling peoples true life storys hes like an angel sent from god to help us peeps with high anxiety s to chill out v stay calm v greeting s to you from rachel uk devon bideford v
He has shown photos of the wrong Missing 411 victims twice in 2 weeks. His research sucks and he adds a lot of his own twists. He is not loyal to the facts and it pisses me off.
Love the fact you show respect for the original content creator that man has literally dedicated his life to finding these people and giving people guidance while hiking or camping and/or just general guidance while in national parks. Truly a hero.
Love what you’re doing here! Thank you for bringing more light to David Paulides and Missing 411, I would want the entire world to know if my loved ones went missing in such circumstances.
Man, 600+ likes already and no dislikes. I can’t think of another youtuber who deserves that more than you bro, keep up the good work! Thank you for your service too btw 🇺🇸🇺🇸
He has shown photos of the wrong Missing 411 victims twice in 2 weeks. His research sucks and he adds a lot of his own twists. He is not loyal to the facts and it pisses me off.
Ok, so that sound that was heard has to be related to this somehow. Only bit that confuses me is that a whooshing sound and a snapping sound are 2 different sounds. Going into conspiracy mode, whooshing sounds make me think of aliens, snapping makes me think bigfoot or dogman. FBI supposedly know of all 3. But combined with lack of wildlife, that leans more toward dogman...
I use to go camping around Index, WA all the time when I was a kid. To say the least, that area is very unsettling. The woods were always very quiet. And it always felt like someone was watching. You'd see abandoned vehicles in the middle of the woods too.
There was a missing dead guy parked in a truck for a few years before someone noticed there was a dead guy in the truck. I’ve seen abandoned vehicle all over here in AZ .
I've grown up in Washington since middle school and can confirm that some of the woods here is odd. There was a woodsy area I hiked in when I was in high school just to walk around by myself. It wasn't too big of a wood area. Suddenly the noise just cuts out. There were no animal sounds at all. When I realized it, I stopped and looked around. I didn't think much of it until I took a couple steps and suddenly had an overwhelming feeling that I needed to get out of there and I was being watched. I was NOT welcome. So I left as quickly as I could and never went that deep in there again.
Predators make the prey animals go silent. And I've recently heard that some predators emit a sound too low for humans to hear -- infrasound or something? -- which can cause anxiety or dread in humans. So it's very likely that you were in range of a powerful predator and only following your gut saved your life.
I have a lot of respect for how you gave Dave Paulides credit for the Missing 411 efforts he has made.👍🏼 I've heard other people do similar content without giving him credit for the research he has done. Thank you for doing that in yours.🌟❤️
I think its really cool too. With that being said it’s the right thing to do and to be honest it would be nice if he even did a little more. For example, he could direct people to his UA-cam channel. I’ve also notices he doesn’t give the same amount of credit on every vid--kinda varies from vid to vid. Maybe I’m getting carried away and nit picking, but David deserves much more credit than he gets and should have a much bigger following.
I love David Paulides! I’ve been following him for several years and he does a great job portraying these strange and missing people cases that take place in our National forests.
In the last story about Dale going for a hike, I really can't believe that the park Rangers wouldn't continue a search. Especially after a couple of people were reporting that someone was calling for help! If he didn't take water with him, he probably was getting dehydrated quickly from the hot weather.
That's what I was thinking. They are so close .To have people that actually heard him they are just not seeing him for some reason . his clothing matches his surroundings or he's in a crack, hole ,tree etc something. To have clues like that and not find him is messed up.
And when she told them again they should have searched again. It's sad. They really don't care. What about those that search for weeks. They should have definitely since they heard from two witnesses, a definite yell. They can't dismiss that so quickly.
It’s literally like something takes over their brains and draws them into the deep woods and makes them walk and strip down to nothing until their bodies just give out! These Missing 411’s are very Bizarre
Nah it goes way deeper then that, you are just at the entrance of the rabbit hole with that thinking, follow Dave Paulides the author of the book he is using.
People getting hypothermia think they're hot and often try to take off their clothes, so in some of the winter disappearances I suspect that might be the cause.
I found you on UA-cam and I’ve never really liked Tik Toc so I just wanted to say I’m glad you decided to expand to here. I love the videos and the ways you give us to deal with the like button.
I work by myself overnight as a baker. The place I work at as odd noises and little weird occurrences. I listen to this channel while I work to keep my mind off of the creepy stuff at work.
Uh yeah, I guess whatever works for u. But for me, that would just add to my creeped out state of mind and make me focus even more on the creepy stuff after i eventually run out of Mr Ballen's stuff to listen to.
Dale’s remains were found not too far from where he went missing. 😞 The Tom Messick story is pretty much always on the outer edges of my consciousness. Its one of the more bizarre disappearances i’ve read about, especially the whooshing sound and the FBI involvement… totally weird.
Toms disappearance is definitely one of the weirdest cases I’ve heard of because he was only 100m away and I’m pretty sure he was in a tree so I don’t know what could’ve grabbed him with such speed that he didn’t make a single noise and that swoosh probably was whatever grabbed him
@@tbdingle I wonder or he could have fallen into some hole in the ground and the swoosh sound was the collapsing ground and vegetation around it. And the collapsed ground filled up the hole, and prevent any sound he could make being heard and thus being found. That, or big foot or aliens.
@@NexuJin it's gotta be a cougar. With how quiet the forest went... forests go quiet like that only when big predators are around, and if you see a cougar it's usually too late for you by that time (because that means they've already been stalking ya). My vote is 100% cougar attack.
@@tbdingleTom was sitting on a tree stump (in the documentary) but he was a very experienced outdoorsman yet armed with a radio for communication and guns (I believe a shot gun and hand gun) but nothing was found , NOTHING , no supplies no hat no torn clothing and no body or bones even after a few years and in the documentary another older gentleman also completely disappeared from his home not too far from where Tom disappeared- this case still gets to me. The documentary is “Missing 411” the Hunted
It aggravates the crap outta me when I hear that they told the lady, "Yeah, we've been getting that report but we already looked there and couldn't find anything." What the heck would make you NOT look again somewhere where more than one person heard someone calling for help?!!! I would've asked the lady to go back out with me and find the EXACT location where she heard it coming from. She may have been afraid to lean out over where she was hearing it, but if they had taken some equipment out that would allow them to anchor themselves and look more safely, they might have saved his life. My gosh!
They really didn’t show much effort nor compassion towards him nor his family and it’s just so frustrating because had they gone about it accordingly he may have possibly still be alive today…Such unprofessional idiots
I think it's so strange how people seem to wake up one day and do something so completely out of the norm for themselves. Then, if they are found alive they don't remember anything. I wonder why these cases haven't been researched more intensely by anyone in the psychology field. There has to be a reason why this continues to happen to people.
The first story, from the news article I read, sounded like she intended to go out for the day, ran out of gas, then tried to make a shortcut through the woods to a gas station in the next town over, but got lost.
Mr Ballen, In the period of a week you have somehow flooded my recommended videos and I couldn't be happier lol. You are my new favorite content creator, just the way you present your videos and the format that you use to explain things is so casual and personal that it's legitimately like having a conversation with a buddy. Cheers man, keep up the great content :D
I feel like the girl went into a trance at some point when she was driving down the road. Because it's like she didn't even realize she was going to run out of gas, and had no awareness to even pull off the road completely. So it makes me think at this point she was in some kind of trance. And she gets out and immediately walks uphill. Very strange story.
Walking uphill makes sense if you have no cell reception and you just ran out of gas, and eating some berries and river water full of who know what for 5 days might put your brain into "alt mode". Why she didn't notice her low gas tank? I did it once, trying to push the limits. Once.
The trance angle needs to be researched. My 13 year old son almost disappeared on a trip we made to Mexico. We were staying in a hotel on the ground floor. My wife and I both woke up at the same moment in the middle of the night, that was strange in itself, and we were both noticing our two sons in the next bed. My eldest was sitting up. My wife called his name. He acted as if he didn't hear her. Then he stood up, walked to the sliding door, opened it, climbed over the railing on the patio and walked out onto the lawn alongside the pool. We called his name again and no response. He walked about 50 yards to the edge of the pool, stopped and stood for a full minute, then turned, walked back to the room, shut the door and laid back down. His movements throughout were robotic and trance-like, and his eyes were wide-open. The next morning we all woke up and asked him what he was doing. He had no recollection of the event whatsoever. We still have no explanation. This was beyond sleep-walking. And even if it wasn't, maybe what we call sleep walking is connected to some strange force that is trying to manipulate minds when they are in a low-alert, sleep-state. So many of these stories make me think of my son. I think, had we not awakened and seen the whole thing, with the ability to catch him before he could have gotten much further, I fear we would have lost him that night.
@@andrewbecker9062 I agree with you. But my point is, we really don't know "the why" behind sleepwalking. Your examples only confirm my point, that it is possible something can use this human weakness to lead people away... or if it's a brain issue like schizophrenia (which is caused by a chemical imbalance), then perhaps it explains why things like this happen to certain people. I have heard of people who "came to their senses" someplace after a long hike when not thinking about their surroundings or paying attention and suddenly realizing they were lost. Same concept.
@@andrewbecker9062 I saw a great youtube video of Navajo policemen telling stories of the strange and supernatural on the Reservation. One officer described a personal experience of making a two hour drive to another city in AZ for training -- I know what those roads in Northern AZ and New Mexico can be like -- mind-numbing. Anyway, he remembers making a turn on a bend in the road and then his mind went blank and when he "woke up" he was at his destination. The weird part wasn't just the "zoning out" but the fact that he also arrived 45 mins early. He says to this day he still can't account for the time difference or remember what happened at the moment he "zoned out." I had a similar experience when I lived in Hawaii. I clearly remember a strange man, a short Pacific Islander, walking up to me and saying something at the moment it happened. I lost 10 mins of time after that. Hahaha, I remember because I was sure I had been hypnotized and robbed because I was standing in front of a bank machine. But no, I still had all my money and credit cards. But what transpired in those ten minutes when I went blank? Who knows...
I absolutely love this channel! MrBallen tells these stories so well that I'll watch them even if I've heard that particular story. Keep doing what you're doing, because it works!
Every single time i click on another video, your subscriber number goes up! A testament of how truly great you deliver these stories! Keep it up my brother, 4 million people and more are very much enjoying listening to them!
Ok, the story about the man, Dale, at Mesa Verde was told as a cautionary tale to us as teens (I grew up at the base of Mesa Verde). My family is 7th generation to the area and they have lots of stories about things that have happened locally, and I remember when my parents talked about Dale. Don't go off the trail, they always said that. And don't go onto the rez alone. Just so many dangerous places that people can get injured.
I’ve literally watched/listened to ALL OF YOUR CONTENT across all platforms. Keep it up my dude, you’re really onto something here, and thank you for taking the time to do this!
Absolutely, I know another gentleman on UA-cam that has an unreal memory and is a good storyteller but MR.Ballen is hands down the best, just has a way of laying these stories out that draws the audience in...crazy good. One of my favorite channels, I wish that he had time to do 3-4 stories per day🙂
I wonder if the "weak male voice crying for help" wasn't Dale but rather he also heard it and went investigating, leading to his own doom. It was also reported and investigated the day previous to his disappearance. Possibly it was just a trick of the wind, a mischief maker or someone/thing more sinister.
@Makko Senpai people over 40 or so were taught foul language displays no class by their parents. It actually takes away from the story for them. Parents were more conservative back then and taught their kids manners. Whether you like it or not it’s written in their DNA and can’t be easily changed in their minds. Not to mention these stories are appropriate for some of the younger audience and we as parents appreciate a clean story.
So basically they got multiple reports of someone calling for help, knowing there was a man missing, and they didn't think to look harder?? Why did they just dismiss it when they got multiple reports he was obviously there.
About the first case, people tend to forget that sometimes humans just... snap. I've heard so many stories of regular people who just became erratic suddenly, doing weird things and going weird places. When these situations happen and there's people around they can usually get help, but if the person is alone there's a huge probability that they will get lost and/or hurt. People are fascinating.
For the story with Dale -- I have heard of natural places where sound gets funnelled strangely, and echoes can seem to be coming from a different direction than the source. I wonder if folks were hearing an echo of Dale calling for help and he was actually somewhere else.
Check out "The Disappearance of Charles Ashmore" by Ambrose Bierce. It deals with that very idea. (It's fictional, but other people believed it was real, and versions of the myth still turn up in books on paranormal phenomena from time to time.)
Good call. Our house does this. Sounds as if a neighbour is to one side of the house but it's just sound bouncing around. It's a really weird effect as we have no neighbour on the side where the voices seem to be coming from.
I've just started watching your channel like a few hours ago, I've discovered it by chance and let me tell you I cannot stop watching, you are hands down the best story teller. ❤❤
I used to live and work off of Highway 2 in Washington. And solo backpacked a lot out there. The geography out there is some of the most dense I've experienced and it's a miracle that she even had the wherewithal to sustain herself with Huckleberry and stream water. Even more impressive she didn't succumb to hypothermia. Stoked to hear of a good ending.
The fbi does actually have a group of cases we'd call their "x-files" they call them something else. It would amaze you how much of these things the fbi takes note of even if they don't get involved.
Avid outdoorsmen with years of survival training gets lost in woods he’s hunted for decades? Yeah, I th ink that’s worthy of FBI attention. The whooshing sound is the only thing that’s spooky though, gotta admit.
I can’t be the only one who scares myself watching his videos but just can’t stop watching them
Me lol
me too
Same!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to leave the lights on.
@@Mo0may its disturbing for sure
At this point David Polidis should just hire you to narrate his audiobooks.
Yes please 😊
He should!
I wouldnt be able to listen to audiobook narrated by mrballen. I would miss the hand gestures
I mean…you know David has his *own* channel, right
@@Weird_but_neat I did not. Thank you
"He was an avid outdoorsman" oh dear, that never bodes well
The words, "they launch this massive search" Usually doesn't bode well either.
You are so cute!😂
@@tanyat1896 thanks I’m 16 tho
That's the same kiss of death as 'she lit up a room' in these stories.
@@Talletc people have given me that same, unusual description over the course of 50 years & I'm still kickin!😜 lol but you do have a point
My sister worked with Dale’s wife. His wife looked for him on vacation time every year. She even saw a shaman/medicine man who told her he suffered something to his head (head injury or stroke) and that he would be found off the regular trail. He has been found but no cause of death could be determined. Im glad she found him for her closure.
So unbelievable that they couldn’t find him SMDH
Sometimes I wonder, and if Dale went down that path, why did he physically feel bad and didn't tell his family? Did you walk too much and at some distant point you felt worse and fell dead? Uwu
I just wrote that on another comment, although it doesn't definitively explain what happened, I also said at the very least it hopefully provides her & the rest of his family some closure. That's very interesting too about what the shaman said, thanks for sharing that.
*Update.* Sadly, not too long after you posted this video, Dave Stehling’s remains were found 4.2 miles from where he was last seen. The police got an anonymous tip that a body was found in a remote, off-limits section of park. Due to the state of the remains, they couldn’t determine a cause of death. A bizarre ending to a bizarre disappearance.
Thanks for the closure on this one, so sad that he was calling for help & no one could find him!
@@joybarker7906 "a body was found in a remote, off-limits section of park". So it was not him calling for help.
Idk I’m starting to wonder about parallel universe’s, there’s been other stories where people can hear someone yelling for help but they never can find the lost person…
@@jennifervolden4611 I prefer to use Occam's razor and not seek paranormal or far-fetched explanations where regular one can be found.
1. Everybody lies
2. People mishear things
The parallel universe theory is commonly accepted in the upper echelons of the science community. "Paranormal" is seeing a puddle in an abandoned house and blaming it on the spirit that continues to haunt it even though there's water damage on the ceiling above it.
Hearing screams of help and being like we checked already is like losing your phone and having someone call it. Hearing it ring and going no I checked already
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. He was obviously in that area... that's bizarre. I can't believe the issue wasn't pushed further until he was found - especially since he was calling for help. Get some dogs out there, their smelling and hearing is way better than ours. 🤦♀️
Yes! Get your ass back out there again and SEARCH.
That story bothered me the most. If I believe he could have been found.
you might think so, but the human brain is very good at hearing what it expects to hear. wind and water can make all sorts of human like sounds that your brain will interpret as whatever you are listening out for. They could well have combed every corner of that cave and found nothing. it is also possible they didn't look hard enough (and for some reason he stopped calling out while they looked for him down there?), but no reason to assume negligence. In all honesty I legitimately can't imagine any grown adult getting lost at Mesa Verde or deciding not to carry a bottle of water with them at all times in that kind of environment. Everyone in this story except the girl who decided not to go looking for him by herself is at fault.
@@dot620 this lady wasn't looking for that man. They should have taken her more seriously.
I like how mr ballen gives David 411 his credit multiple times every show .
He literally uses his books for his whole tiktok/YT "career." He better.
Yea the fact that he retells all these stories is fantastic. I love the missing 411 genre but personally I can't take listening to David Paulides tell these stories. He drones on and gets sidetracked nonstop. Very hard to follow. Mr. Ballen gives a very concise version with little to no fat.
David is probably his dad...
@@darrylmarshall3301 dave paulides was years of research and books into all strange disappearances b4 any one . to not give dave credit on one of daves investigation would be deceitful is why i respect it . and your comment is fuked up in general . if you followed the topic you might know why
@@my11badkids78 Dave tells the story like a detective would and does . mr ballen is a very good story teller . all depends how deep and how much time you want to get into the subject .
Thank you for giving Dave the credit for all his hard work. He has never had a problem with anyone sharing his info, but a lot of people just use it with no credit for him. You are a standup guy, which is why I enjoy your vids so much.
why do i read dave everywhere i thought his name was dale
I hear he visits Dave in his free time to give him a massage, with a happy ending. Hes so awesome.
@@octeval3890 Guy that got lost in number three story was Dale. (RIP)
Dave is the guy with the Missing 411 series.
@@HELLRZR-nm3vv thank you for explaining!
I agree Dave P. is awesome and works hard for what he does.
I was not expecting the girl that walked up a mountain and was gone for 9 days to be found alive.
She was rejected by her captor.
Me either. I came here to say this girl commited suicide, or ran off and started a new life
True dat
It sounds like she was abducted, harmed in some way and released and blocked it out...
I believe this girl had a mental break. And needs medicine. We have someone like that in our family. They do stuff like that and will keep doing stuff like that until the mental illness is diagnosed by a doctor. If they dont take their medicine they will have another mental break. Sometimes it's hard to get them back to normal. It's not unusual for someone like that to just jump in their car and just drive off somewhere without any thought of where their going. Or why. We deal with that kind of stuff all the time.
Any time it starts with “He was an avid…,” you know it’s not going to end well.
Right?
And an “avid outdoorsman” with NO water on a hot day, is insane.
So sorry his story didn’t end well. 😔
It won’t end well for the poor bloody animals these tossers ‘hunters’ are shooting at.
@Darkfarfetch:?????
@@jrooksable I don’t think they meant to make that a reply. They’re referring to the last story.
Ikr. "was" = key word.
I'm a fan of the strange, dark and mysterious delivered in story format.
Then empty the Like Buttons shampoo bottle and refill it with mayonaise.
@@AndyDaClimber 😂😂😂
As am I 👻💀👽
Then take the like buttons mother out for a nice sea food dinner and never call her again
@@AndyDaClimber]
About a year ago my husband introduced me to this channel and we started watching it together when new stories come out. We’re adventurous people, we like hiking and exploring, building and fixing things, trying something new etc. But ever since we started watching this channel before we do something that seems a little dangerous we ask ourselves if this will make us into an episode. We’re much safer people thanks to this channel! 😂
Recently I ventured onto an overgrown 6 by I foot patch of my lot, which is in a residential area in clear view of the house, the sky, and neighbors' houses.
Yet I was thinking "I must be crazy, walking into this tangle of weeds! One wrong step here, one twist of fate and I'll be a MrBallen story!"
Don't let this channel stop you from being adventurous. I'm an avid outdoors person as well, and I've had some of the best experiences outdoors. Granted most of my hiking experiences have been outside the United States. I don't really hike in America, actually.😂
Imagine you being the only one ever knowing what happened to yourself.
This got me right in the feels.
Yeah. Especially that last case about Dale and how they heard him calling for help but couldn't find anyone. I really wonder if he fell into sinkhole. It reminds me of that one case where that guy was walking in his field (I think it was in like the early 1900s) and his wife is on the porch and his wife literally saw him disappear before her eyes. And she went out to where he was and she could barely hear him yelling for help and it sounded like it was underground. And so she called his brothers. And they could hear him calling for help too so they called in the police and volunteers and everyone started digging in that whole area where they heard him and after like 10 ft they hit bedrock. And he kept calling for help for days until he stopped.
@@WhitneyDahlin wow that's crazy I've never heard of that one
@@WhitneyDahlin what is this man's name ? I would love to read about this story ??
I would haunt someone if it was foul play. Then again I do believe in Jesus and am not 100% sure that the saved walk among us and I think if they do it isn't for long. Jmo
Honestly, from the moment I found John’s channel, that’s all I can watch! I am constantly walking my dog at night on edge, but I just can’t stop. I can’t be the only one terrified and engulfed at the same time. He’s just so incredibly talented at bringing these stories to life! Respect and appreciation! Thank you 🙏🏻
Thankful for the dog, right?
Same! He’s got lots of cool stuff on TikTok too!
This makes me feel normal af🤣 I listen alone and vulnerable at night too but can't stop.
Same girl, freaking same. Always on edge... can't stop won't stop
Lmao!!!
I’m a grown man who now needs a night light
LMBO! Same here brother. I usually watch these late at night.
If it makes you feel better I don't see any problem with it
Now you can see in the middle of the night!!! It’s great
I use one every night 😂🤷
😁😁😁🌺
I met a woman recently who suffers from some type of dissociative disorder and regularly runs miles ending up with no idea how she got to where she's found. She and her dog have to wear a tracking device so she can be found. She had suffered trauma whilst working in the military as a dog handler.
My Das was a dog handler in Vietnam 1967 1968 . He lived the Vietnam ate his dogs. He was not allowed to bring them home
@@bonzo6826 god, thats a terrible thing to know after all these years. Im so sorry he ended up in Vietnam and I know how close troops become close to their dogs. The war they did not ask for
During Covid 19, lots of folks gone schizophrenic due to isolation
I feel like a lot of these cases might be a similar thing.
@@rileypresley5605 you might be right. Happy new year to you.
How sad for dale. He was RIGHT THERE, and they knew his voice had been coming from there from multiple reports, and they just gave up. Imagine your last moments being relieved you’d been found, only to be overlooked several times after which you die where you lay. I understand conditions were brutally hot, but it feels like if they had just kept looking where they knew the voice was coming from they would have found him.
yep
@@leonardodavid4670 no
Well it wasn't him, He also said that the rangers were receiving reports about the voice hours before Dale's situation. In an update, His body was found about 4-5 miles away from that place as well. It wouldn't make sense that he'd be hurt asking for help "Right there" & then suddenly be okay enough to walk 4 miles away from the area.
@@anthonygarcia3922 He may have recovered from a fall.
Well, they didn't feel like doing their jobs that day, what can you do?
I appreciate your giving credit to Mr. Paulides for the efforts he has put forth with missing people.
Unfortunately I've recently heard search and rescue professionals don't consider this man credible. The type of cases and the entire facts aren't presented. Like molding the stories into the crazy stories that people love to hear. Works for him, he sells the books!
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 you really believe that?
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 you realize there's people who go out of their way to cover things up or just dismiss things
@baltimorefan5642 When there's actual facts in police reports that aren't included in the book, then how is it someone dismissing things? The only one doing that is Missing 411.
Fantastic story teller, thank you for the content.
Bilal ikr I thought I was the only one who thought that 🤣
The first story reminds me of a story I had read in college about this young 22yr old girl who had recently lost her mother and one night she randomly went to a near by lake and walked for 2days and found her mothers body she had no clue how she got there and called the cops she went missing for 3 days and people say she got “possessed “ by her own mother who guided her to the body for closure 🤷🏻♀️
Do you remember the case name? That's fascinating!
Hmm that sounds sus
I am addicted to his story telling. And I can't wait to see which flannel shirt he will wear next
I love it that he gets the kind where the patterns match!
Ikr ❤💛💙
...and hubba hubba
Mr. Ballen’s most used phrase - “ a massive search is launched “
Lol 😂 iykyk
It’s, “(the guys) all of whom are in excellent physical shape….” (Annnnd cue his buddies with ridicule and appropriate quotes such as: “look at the butt on that one!” “He must workout”)
yeah .. that indicates your watching all of his series
Take a shot! :P
Super easy barely an inconvenience.
Dale’s ghost is really pissed that nobody looked harder for him.
Many years ago my very close friend and I hiked and camped on this very same area on the same creek. This was years before this young lady had gone missing. As we hiked in we kind of marveled at the fact there was ZERO wildlife. In the dense woods of N.W. Washington state its not uncommon to get into patches of woods where this is true, but this was for miles. The entire hike in we were both creeped out, speaking to one another often about it. Finally we came to a nice wide, flat spot along the creek and set up camp. My Buddy had a fire going and was in pretty good spirits, I how ever was still uneasy. That night we were both sleeping very fitful. I woke up to what sounded like a large animal running down the trail next to our tent, what was especially creepy was the breathing of the animal, it sounded like it was breathing very heavily, like I could hear panic in its breath. I have spent TONS of time deep in the woods of Washington around elk, deer and black bear, I’ve never heard an animal sound like that. The next morning we quickly packed up and headed back to the car, both of us looking over our shoulders. To this day we still talk about how weird that experience was.
You should read Monster by Frank Peretti.
Animals hunt one another in the night. They run away sometimes, that's probably what you heard and you should be happy they got away from the predator. If you factor in the effects of the permanent drought going on, you will realize native wildlife isn't finding enough food--they are literally starving in the forest. Invasive plants and insects don't help, they kill a lot of their trusted plant/animal sources as well.
@@brennanarmacost1762That is sad, we are destroying them.
Wow! I live in England & love going to parks & woods but they're not on your scale. First there's no predators like bears or wolves. They were hunted to extinction long ago. Then there's the false widow spider ( i'm so glad we don't have the real ones), which bite but survivable. Same with snakes, there are a few native to us but only one is venemous, the adder, which hasn't killed anyone since the 70s. I can't imagine putting the tent up & listening to breathing & movement all night. I would just 💩. Even with my husband & 2 big dogs beside me! Safe travels 🇬🇧🇺🇸
@@gothdogs6300wait until you learn about what Australians have to deal with 😅
Wilderness Rule 1, the most important rule above all in the wild: If you don't hear a single sound even far out, abort.
Yeah this needs some work bro.
when a predator is on the prowel is about the only time it gets quite . Most of the time we're that predator/hunter .
@@bobbymorris9513 Makes one wonder what predator could cause such a silence like that in the story and be the result of a missing hunter...
I've said this on another video and people are just laughing, ua-cam.com/video/0hH0YBMngHY/v-deo.html&lc=UgwD0T-FDS2BeO5F4Il4AaABAg.9Jl49zqJIWs9KTAepuTusV , but its very true what you're saying.
What if you’re pro-life?
Who else watches this while in bed. And then listens for all noises in the house😂😂😂
The reason why people are running away into the forest and not knowing why they did it, can I explain. The humans are a species that has started to become more affected by there instincts and are will become monkey in 300 years. LONG LIVE THE БЛИН 🥞
Totally. I haven’t gone into the basement since I discovered this channel 3 days ago
I'm now terrified of my washing machine and the eerie bangs it makes.
I was watching these videos on my back porch at night and almost jumped 5 feet when a deer or racoon walked by our house. Lol
Me and I now know that my house makes soooo many strange noises 😅
“She had a sip of seltzer water”
The details that really matter😂
Its is thirst Quenching...lol
Sometimes I wonder if those details really are true or he’s just painting the picture for us more vividly lol
It adds to the pizzazz
@@deliateresita2773 Pafizz? Pafazz?
😂😂
One of the commonalities in the Missing 411 series is search parties coming across the missing person's shoes and/or clothing, as though the person suddenly removed them, choosing to wander lost in the woods barefoot/naked. I find that so strange, even if one is disoriented/dazed it seems so odd that this would seem like a necessary thing to do. Anyone else find this really odd?
Your comment is from 4 months ago so you might not see this, but if you’re still curious look up “paradoxical undressing”
Maybe the shoes are starting to e uncomfortable after much walking and they slip them off but intending to put them on again, but something intervenes.
@@nalciel6577 The "paradoxical undressing" BS needs to end under the missing 411 posts. It's not a common occuring, it only happens in the very late stages of hypothermia, right before someone is dying and so people won't just take off their boots to walk a few miles barefoot while being moments away from dying
@@mrniceguy3660 I didn't ask for your opinion, nor are you an expert on the topic. Shush
@@nalciel6577 You left a public comment on a public video, so shut tf up bozo
My kids are rolling their eyes at me, as I binge watch your videos. My son literally said to me 'your still watching his videos?!'
lmfaoo
Probably concerned about your mental health… bit like the look my partner gave me when I described the last one I watched 😅
My husband says the same. 😂
You most certainly do this unintentionally, but when you describe the huge manhunts that are launched all over the place… you restore my faith in humanity
I wonder if the people who are actually found alive were ever put under hypnosis to find out what had actually happened to them. I would like to know.
Someone else commented this and a response said they advise against it because the brain makes them forget for a reason and hypnosis can almost re traumatise them
Still think it would be quite interesting tho......
Interstng but unethical.
That would be so interesting.
@@Thegreenpig22 actually think that's really stupid either way you're traumatized you have a whole part of your life that you don't remember and you don't think that's traumatizing
Came here from Corpse Husband's reading of search and rescue stories, and I feel so fortunate to have found Mr. Ballen to cover more of these in finer detail. Thanks John
Respect isn't given its earned. The fact you shouted out David Paulides and linked his channel is way more than other youtubers do. I respect that and I'm a big fan. You're an inspiration to my channel and im growing bc of that. Thank you for all you do. Keep these up
He’s brilliant this guy, only found his channel on Friday and have watched everything. Love Paulides from the first time a saw his talk at Mufon. Bob Gymlan is great too but it’s pure Bigfoot/Cryptid, his Dennis Martin video is beautifully done with the artwork.
Thank you your channel good and it's give you alot to think about
Shape. What’s ur channel about ? I’m interested
This stuff needs to be National news this stuff is extremely bizarre nothing about this is normal there’s literally no explanation for an avid hunter to vanish without a trace
The Shape respect is given for being human, it is taken away when you are proven unworthy of respect. Understand that.
Mr Ballen,
You keep me sane.
I suffer from chronic depression and anxiety and your channel has been a life saver
Thankyou
Me too!
Me too!
Me too!
I suggest getting your B, magnesium, D and potassium levels checked.
@@Nabsolute_ perfectly stated!
These missing 411 cases definitely needs more attention. Always baffled me. Hats off to David Paulides for his fine work. Thanks to this channel for re sharing his stories.
Please. More stories where folks are found alive. It’s fulfilling
Thank you for mentioning David Paulides Missing 411. Much respect and now I will subscribe to you as well.
If you ever went missing I think we all know that the like button is the prime suspect
Facts😂😂
rashane adams 😂
The like button stands his ground.
🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant and of course you are right, it's that dam# like button.
Literally just discovered this: Dale Stehling, the man from the last video, was found. His remains were found on September 17th, 2020, just a month after this video was released. He was found 4.2 miles away from where he was last seen. Along with his remains were personal items that contained identification. What is odd is how far he was found, the anonymous tip that led to the discovery, and that there was no indication of foul play.
Thanks for the additional information.
wow!!
Yes Thank you. That one definitely left off on a cliffhanger. But the whole story is very odd given his experience.
The weird thing is the multiple reports of people hearing a male calling for help and the rangers not being able to locate him...? It's sad that he may have been pleading for help and people heard but failed to find him.... until 7 years later
@@kristenc8967 think the rangers were too laid back in starting the search.
Got nothing but sincere respect for you sir. Not only going thru the shit for your country. But then to have the integrity and character to admit, at no fault of your own, that your experiences scrambled a few of your eggs and using your epic storytelling abilities as a form of therapy is Galaxy Class assess and conquer instinct..... Truly Inspiring Sir!!! Thank you,,,,,for everything.
Wait whàaat? Is this really true about Mr B?!
@@peachykellz yeah brother. ...he's the real deal!! He's been in situations for this country that movie producers couldn't come up with. You want to listen and learn from a man that has something to say??? Fuk top ten , he's the ONE mutha____r!!!!
Am I the only one who after listening to his videos turn on the light before walking into a room.....asking for a friend.
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I do the same thing 😊 No worries
With my flashlight on😂
Most if the time I listen at 5am on the treadmill in the basement. When I come back up stairs it's dark because my husband left for work and turned all the lights out on his way out the door. I has to ask him to leave a light on for me. 🤣
I always keep my lights on even when sleeping.
For a "friend" hmm 🤔 🤣😂
Woman: "I heard a man screaming for help over there!"
Rangers: "Well we were over there earlier and didn't find anything, so..."
I am certain something was lost in the retelling haha. I imagine they checked again.
@@hannahswheelieawesome I can imagine that as well. I'm just not sure that it happened.
".....so it must be a man over THERE, who can throw his voice."
Based on some of the other stories MrBallen tells, my guess is that there was an old well, sink hole, or partially exposed cave somewhere right under everyone's feet, and Dale just happened to step on the hole just right, so as to fall right in. If it's a small opening, maybe along the side of a boulder with brush covering it, then it's understandable how they could hear but not actually find him. He's probably still down in that hole, and he's probably not the only one. That hole is probably awaiting more victims. Scarier than getting hit by lightning.
@@orionthehunter217 was thinkin exactly this same theory
I've watched David Paulides do his missing 411 show and you can tell he cares deeply about missing people. Thank you John for putting these stories into such a compelling format so that more people are discovering the Missing 411 stories.
If he cared he wouldn't make up stories about how they went missing that imply supernatural events, nor bend the information to present it in a misleading tabloid fashion. He profits off these people by turning their disappearances into campfire tales riddled with deliberate inaccuracies that make them better 'stories'.
@@missm1548 how do you suppose these people ended up missing and their bodies found in strange circumstances ? Since you've done the research please shed some light
He takes time out of his videos to give his condolences to the family .. not only that.. he goes and personally meets the family. Mrballen literally has taken David's work and profited and not only that "if you're a fan of the strange dark and mysterious". But you're claiming David is the one twisting the stories and making it seem supernatural. Not sure what David has done for people to bad mouth him.
@@mariobtron5907 Just a quick read of the Wikipedia page about the Missing 411 makes it really clear how David Paulides intentionally changes normal stories into something paranormal. The guy's a freaking Bigfoot hunter too.
@@AdaptorLive well you gotta admit , some of those cases are somewhat paranormal. They aren't normal
A friend of mine was having seizures where she could still function (driving, walking, eating, etc) but was super confused about what was going on around her and couldn't verbalize anything. They finally diagnosed the seizures and put her on a medication and she's ok now. I wonder if that (or similar conditions) explain some of these disappearances.
Probably at least some of them
I wonder if there's some electromagnetic activity in certain places causing people to have atypical seizures. Hmmmm. Could be natural or human sourced, not saying it's supernatural or extraterrestrial. The likelihood of multiple people reaching travel or altitude fatigue in the same area is something else that could trigger seizures.
I randomly stumbled upon this channel and it’s been really helping me with my anxiety lately. I’m so glad there’s so many videos, Mr. Ballen’s voice is so soothing.
Lol. Hearing about people going missing & dying in the most horrible ways is helping you with your anxiety??? I guess as long as none of these things happen to you, you can feel less anxious about life because really, normal life is pretty boring
@@allisonjames2923 by comparison you think to your self: "my life is pretty good! I'm so thankful for my current situation. It could be worse like these stories". The feeling of gratitude can relieve anxiety I guess 😁 plus having someone telling you these stories seems like he is talking to you in person and can relief loneliness and seem like socializing in a way.
Whatever works I suppose lol. I mean years ago I used to watch The Real Housewives of whatever County to make myself feel better about MY life so you know there is that. I didn't have anxiety, Its just man you can't watch those chicks N NOT feel better about your OWN life that's all I'm saying. LOL
@@sannoua5686 guess you don't know how anxiety works 🤷🏼♀️
I suffer bad anxiety to v think mrballens calming voice and the passion drive for telling peoples true life storys hes like an angel sent from god to help us peeps with high anxiety s to chill out v stay calm v greeting s to you from rachel uk devon bideford v
Mr.Ballen
Talks to the camera as if you were standing next to him
Tells us the story as if we were sitting down by the camp fire
Making it the best for listening
Special Forces dudes 👍
Like Mr Roger's. Ha
Sorry I’m late, I couldn’t find the like button. It showed up late cuz I turned off its alarm yesterday
True fan right here 🤜🤛
🤣
Hahaha me too!
He has shown photos of the wrong Missing 411 victims twice in 2 weeks. His research sucks and he adds a lot of his own twists. He is not loyal to the facts and it pisses me off.
@@cuttheknot4781 Perhaps you should just 'cut the knot' and go elsewhere if you don't like it here. Free choice.
Just subscribed to "Canam Missing Project". great stuff, thanks MR. B
Love the fact you show respect for the original content creator that man has literally dedicated his life to finding these people and giving people guidance while hiking or camping and/or just general guidance while in national parks. Truly a hero.
Love what you’re doing here! Thank you for bringing more light to David Paulides and Missing 411, I would want the entire world to know if my loved ones went missing in such circumstances.
Man, 600+ likes already and no dislikes. I can’t think of another youtuber who deserves that more than you bro, keep up the good work! Thank you for your service too btw 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you so much! I really just love doing these videos... even if people disliked the content I’d still be psyched about it haha
@@MrBallen haters gonna hate bro.. they just peanut butter and jealous
He has shown photos of the wrong Missing 411 victims twice in 2 weeks. His research sucks and he adds a lot of his own twists. He is not loyal to the facts and it pisses me off.
@@MrBallen" Those who tell the stories rule society." ~Plato
I think you're amazing! Keep' Em coming😂
Ok, so that sound that was heard has to be related to this somehow. Only bit that confuses me is that a whooshing sound and a snapping sound are 2 different sounds. Going into conspiracy mode, whooshing sounds make me think of aliens, snapping makes me think bigfoot or dogman. FBI supposedly know of all 3. But combined with lack of wildlife, that leans more toward dogman...
Mr Ballen You Rock!
Can't get enough. What a top notch speaker and story teller. Proud to be a fan.
I use to go camping around Index, WA all the time when I was a kid. To say the least, that area is very unsettling. The woods were always very quiet. And it always felt like someone was watching.
You'd see abandoned vehicles in the middle of the woods too.
There was a missing dead guy parked in a truck for a few years before someone noticed there was a dead guy in the truck. I’ve seen abandoned vehicle all over here in AZ .
I've grown up in Washington since middle school and can confirm that some of the woods here is odd. There was a woodsy area I hiked in when I was in high school just to walk around by myself. It wasn't too big of a wood area. Suddenly the noise just cuts out. There were no animal sounds at all. When I realized it, I stopped and looked around. I didn't think much of it until I took a couple steps and suddenly had an overwhelming feeling that I needed to get out of there and I was being watched. I was NOT welcome. So I left as quickly as I could and never went that deep in there again.
Good decision!
Bigfoot
Predators make the prey animals go silent. And I've recently heard that some predators emit a sound too low for humans to hear -- infrasound or something? -- which can cause anxiety or dread in humans. So it's very likely that you were in range of a powerful predator and only following your gut saved your life.
Smart cookie
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I have a lot of respect for how you gave Dave Paulides credit for the Missing 411 efforts he has made.👍🏼
I've heard other people do similar content without giving him credit for the research he has done.
Thank you for doing that in yours.🌟❤️
I appreciate him doing that as well. We have similar names, you and I, Susan Coulter.
He knew he had to, in order to be seen as credible.
@@1w598 - Well it's not like David Paulides is exactly seen as the most credible person on the planet.
I think its really cool too. With that being said it’s the right thing to do and to be honest it would be nice if he even did a little more. For example, he could direct people to his UA-cam channel. I’ve also notices he doesn’t give the same amount of credit on every vid--kinda varies from vid to vid. Maybe I’m getting carried away and nit picking, but David deserves much more credit than he gets and should have a much bigger following.
@@mayhem2288, I can hear the respect in Mr. Ballens voice when He speaks about him.
IM GOOD WITH THAT.
Does anybody else ever imagine him narrating whatever your doing with extreme detail?
I like to imagine how he would narrate my bad decisions 😂
I love David Paulides! I’ve been following him for several years and he does a great job portraying these strange and missing people cases that take place in our National forests.
In the last story about Dale going for a hike, I really can't believe that the park Rangers wouldn't continue a search. Especially after a couple of people were reporting that someone was calling for help! If he didn't take water with him, he probably was getting dehydrated quickly from the hot weather.
That's what I was thinking. They are so close .To have people that actually heard him they are just not seeing him for some reason . his clothing matches his surroundings or he's in a crack, hole ,tree etc something. To have clues like that and not find him is messed up.
The last story upsets me bc he was most likely stuck somewhere like a deep hole yelling for help.
And when she told them again they should have searched again. It's sad. They really don't care. What about those that search for weeks. They should have definitely since they heard from two witnesses, a definite yell. They can't dismiss that so quickly.
And when the family first alerted them, they said to give it a couple hours. 🤦
His remainings were found in a strange place
It’s literally like something takes over their brains and draws them into the deep woods and makes them walk and strip down to nothing until their bodies just give out! These Missing 411’s are very Bizarre
No shoes but socks are always clean. I think someone else removed the clothing.
Nah it goes way deeper then that, you are just at the entrance of the rabbit hole with that thinking, follow Dave Paulides the author of the book he is using.
Vampires seem to have this ability real well.
Yes I would definitely like to know what you think as well @Joshua
People getting hypothermia think they're hot and often try to take off their clothes, so in some of the winter disappearances I suspect that might be the cause.
I’m so happy I listen too Mr. Ballen ,I’ve purchased all the 411 Books Amazing reading books 📚.
I just discovered this channel yesterday and have been non stop binge watching for the last 24 hours! I'm so hooked!! Love this channel ❤️
Yh that hurts.
MrBallen Chanel totally addictive!
Mr.Ballen is the only guy on UA-cam that had 5million subs before any person had ever heard of him.
@@axe2grind244 I'm into true crime and somehow totally missed MrBallen. Can't understand how.
Amen to that 🙌🏼😄 I'm hooked 🕵🏼🌟
I found you on UA-cam and I’ve never really liked Tik Toc so I just wanted to say I’m glad you decided to expand to here. I love the videos and the ways you give us to deal with the like button.
In that case you'll be pleased to learn that President Trump has just outlawed TIKTOK and US companies have 45 days to rid themselves of it.MAGA
ANTON RUDENHAM unless Microsoft purchases it
ANTON RUDENHAM trump is the worst president...
Levi H. they did already
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Yes,of course he is, now go back to sleep sonny.
I work by myself overnight as a baker. The place I work at as odd noises and little weird occurrences. I listen to this channel while I work to keep my mind off of the creepy stuff at work.
Ironic
Sometimes you gotta fight fire with Fire 😂
Uh yeah, I guess whatever works for u. But for me, that would just add to my creeped out state of mind and make me focus even more on the creepy stuff after i eventually run out of Mr Ballen's stuff to listen to.
Hahaha that will make it worse😂
Thats brave but I would be freakin at every sound
I started watching your videos when I cut the grass and have been hooked. I’m slowly making my way to the top.
So glad you're covering Missing 411 - I hope this series continues!
He does a great job story telling and conveying anxiety/fear. Easy to binge watch 20 in an afternoon lol. Thx John
I like listening to you tell these stories--awesome to give David Pallides a great plug--makes me like your channel even more !
Dale’s remains were found not too far from where he went missing. 😞 The Tom Messick story is pretty much always on the outer edges of my consciousness. Its one of the more bizarre disappearances i’ve read about, especially the whooshing sound and the FBI involvement… totally weird.
Toms disappearance is definitely one of the weirdest cases I’ve heard of because he was only 100m away and I’m pretty sure he was in a tree so I don’t know what could’ve grabbed him with such speed that he didn’t make a single noise and that swoosh probably was whatever grabbed him
@@tbdingle I wonder or he could have fallen into some hole in the ground and the swoosh sound was the collapsing ground and vegetation around it. And the collapsed ground filled up the hole, and prevent any sound he could make being heard and thus being found.
That, or big foot or aliens.
@@NexuJin it's gotta be a cougar. With how quiet the forest went... forests go quiet like that only when big predators are around, and if you see a cougar it's usually too late for you by that time (because that means they've already been stalking ya). My vote is 100% cougar attack.
@@tbdingleTom was sitting on a tree stump (in the documentary) but he was a very experienced outdoorsman yet armed with a radio for communication and guns (I believe a shot gun and hand gun) but nothing was found , NOTHING , no supplies no hat no torn clothing and no body or bones even after a few years and in the documentary another older gentleman also completely disappeared from his home not too far from where Tom disappeared- this case still gets to me. The documentary is “Missing 411” the Hunted
I grew up with the legendary Mr. Stack narrating Unsolved Mysteries.
You're the dude now.
Mr ballen : He was an Avid outdoorsman or competent outdoorsman
Me: shit is about to go down
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mrballen: "He was a competent outdoorsman"
Me: "clearly he wasn't doll, or you wouldn't be talking about it"
Also never have a bright future in front of you or be liked by all.
SAME!!
I like the ones that are like "now for an experienced diver/hiker/caver, this would be no big deal. X, however, was not experienced." Whompwhompppp
It aggravates the crap outta me when I hear that they told the lady, "Yeah, we've been getting that report but we already looked there and couldn't find anything." What the heck would make you NOT look again somewhere where more than one person heard someone calling for help?!!! I would've asked the lady to go back out with me and find the EXACT location where she heard it coming from. She may have been afraid to lean out over where she was hearing it, but if they had taken some equipment out that would allow them to anchor themselves and look more safely, they might have saved his life. My gosh!
@@Couplescience yea I think hes gotta be there. Maybe an optical illusion in the rock is comaflaging a crack or crevice.
They found his body around 5km off the trail under a tree in September 2020
They really didn’t show much effort nor compassion towards him nor his family and it’s just so frustrating because had they gone about it accordingly he may have possibly still be alive today…Such unprofessional idiots
They found his remains in 2020 over 4 miles away from the trail, but you’re right about him falling.
@susan ivy oh man that story about the girl at Disney so horrible.
I'm a huge Missing 411 fan. Glad you support David's hard work!
It’s a good day when mrballen uploads
I think it's so strange how people seem to wake up one day and do something so completely out of the norm for themselves. Then, if they are found alive they don't remember anything. I wonder why these cases haven't been researched more intensely by anyone in the psychology field. There has to be a reason why this continues to happen to people.
Aliens
I mean psychosis does make people act strangely, but I’m assuming in these cases that was ruled out
Psychotic break. It does happen especially when an individual is stressed. Covid stressed a lot of people immensely
The first story, from the news article I read, sounded like she intended to go out for the day, ran out of gas, then tried to make a shortcut through the woods to a gas station in the next town over, but got lost.
It has been extensively researched It’s called Dissociative Fugue
Story time with Mr. Ballen has turned into a family tradition 3-4, sometimes even 5 times a week...
😂😂😂
Lmao
Haha my dad and I watch one of his videos together every other day
I’ve grown to not like hearing stories told by anyone else. Only this man!
same here and I've now heard them all and have to wait Sundays story...
Mrballens voice is very listenable. I can listen for hours and not be uncomfortable with his tone at all.
Mr Ballen, In the period of a week you have somehow flooded my recommended videos and I couldn't be happier lol. You are my new favorite content creator, just the way you present your videos and the format that you use to explain things is so casual and personal that it's legitimately like having a conversation with a buddy. Cheers man, keep up the great content :D
I feel like the girl went into a trance at some point when she was driving down the road. Because it's like she didn't even realize she was going to run out of gas, and had no awareness to even pull off the road completely. So it makes me think at this point she was in some kind of trance. And she gets out and immediately walks uphill. Very strange story.
@@andrewbecker9062 it could be so many things,but something more powerful than her was at play!!
Walking uphill makes sense if you have no cell reception and you just ran out of gas, and eating some berries and river water full of who know what for 5 days might put your brain into "alt mode". Why she didn't notice her low gas tank? I did it once, trying to push the limits. Once.
The trance angle needs to be researched. My 13 year old son almost disappeared on a trip we made to Mexico. We were staying in a hotel on the ground floor. My wife and I both woke up at the same moment in the middle of the night, that was strange in itself, and we were both noticing our two sons in the next bed. My eldest was sitting up. My wife called his name. He acted as if he didn't hear her. Then he stood up, walked to the sliding door, opened it, climbed over the railing on the patio and walked out onto the lawn alongside the pool. We called his name again and no response. He walked about 50 yards to the edge of the pool, stopped and stood for a full minute, then turned, walked back to the room, shut the door and laid back down. His movements throughout were robotic and trance-like, and his eyes were wide-open. The next morning we all woke up and asked him what he was doing. He had no recollection of the event whatsoever. We still have no explanation. This was beyond sleep-walking. And even if it wasn't, maybe what we call sleep walking is connected to some strange force that is trying to manipulate minds when they are in a low-alert, sleep-state. So many of these stories make me think of my son. I think, had we not awakened and seen the whole thing, with the ability to catch him before he could have gotten much further, I fear we would have lost him that night.
@@andrewbecker9062 I agree with you. But my point is, we really don't know "the why" behind sleepwalking. Your examples only confirm my point, that it is possible something can use this human weakness to lead people away... or if it's a brain issue like schizophrenia (which is caused by a chemical imbalance), then perhaps it explains why things like this happen to certain people. I have heard of people who "came to their senses" someplace after a long hike when not thinking about their surroundings or paying attention and suddenly realizing they were lost. Same concept.
@@andrewbecker9062 I saw a great youtube video of Navajo policemen telling stories of the strange and supernatural on the Reservation. One officer described a personal experience of making a two hour drive to another city in AZ for training -- I know what those roads in Northern AZ and New Mexico can be like -- mind-numbing. Anyway, he remembers making a turn on a bend in the road and then his mind went blank and when he "woke up" he was at his destination. The weird part wasn't just the "zoning out" but the fact that he also arrived 45 mins early. He says to this day he still can't account for the time difference or remember what happened at the moment he "zoned out." I had a similar experience when I lived in Hawaii. I clearly remember a strange man, a short Pacific Islander, walking up to me and saying something at the moment it happened. I lost 10 mins of time after that. Hahaha, I remember because I was sure I had been hypnotized and robbed because I was standing in front of a bank machine. But no, I still had all my money and credit cards. But what transpired in those ten minutes when I went blank? Who knows...
I'm hooked! I can't stop watching. I've stopped watching my other stories.
Me and my wife can't get enough of his amazing skills on storytelling on these stories!!
Yes! I brag on him to everyone like he is family.... So entertaining without having to resort to cussing and carrying on!
My wife and I*
He's about a three-trick pony when it comes to hand gestures. His gesturing seems very focus-grouped.
I absolutely love this channel! MrBallen tells these stories so well that I'll watch them even if I've heard that particular story. Keep doing what you're doing, because it works!
Every single time i click on another video, your subscriber number goes up! A testament of how truly great you deliver these stories! Keep it up my brother, 4 million people and more are very much enjoying listening to them!
Ok, the story about the man, Dale, at Mesa Verde was told as a cautionary tale to us as teens (I grew up at the base of Mesa Verde). My family is 7th generation to the area and they have lots of stories about things that have happened locally, and I remember when my parents talked about Dale. Don't go off the trail, they always said that. And don't go onto the rez alone. Just so many dangerous places that people can get injured.
I’ve literally watched/listened to ALL OF YOUR CONTENT across all platforms.
Keep it up my dude, you’re really onto something here, and thank you for taking the time to do this!
The way you present these make them the most interesting stories EVER
Thank you!
Absolutely, I know another gentleman on UA-cam that has an unreal memory and is a good storyteller but MR.Ballen is hands down the best, just has a way of laying these stories out that draws the audience in...crazy good. One of my favorite channels, I wish that he had time to do 3-4 stories per day🙂
Thank you for giving Dave a shout-out! He's going through a lot right now. You ARE THE BEST story teller I've watched on UA-cam! Take Care!
This day has been strange, dark, mysterious and delivered in story format
I wonder if the "weak male voice crying for help" wasn't Dale but rather he also heard it and went investigating, leading to his own doom. It was also reported and investigated the day previous to his disappearance. Possibly it was just a trick of the wind, a mischief maker or someone/thing more sinister.
I came to the exact same assumption. Someone was luring him away from the public into a private area to harm him.
interesting theory
@@cassieandrews8392 a paranormal malevolent intelligence
@@ansc6472 Malevolent yes, paranormal not likely. I would say the "Good Samaritan" happened to him.
@@cassieandrews8392 explain why blood hounds chasing a person's scent just suddenly stop, walk in circles sit down and whimper on the trail??
I like Mr Ballen. He’s an excellent story teller and he doesn’t use bad language 😁
@Makko Senpai that's what I was fucking thinking. Smh
@Makko Senpai ik, but some people *(children)* can't watch vids with bad words so more can watch.
@Makko Senpai people over 40 or so were taught foul language displays no class by their parents. It actually takes away from the story for them. Parents were more conservative back then and taught their kids manners. Whether you like it or not it’s written in their DNA and can’t be easily changed in their minds. Not to mention these stories are appropriate for some of the younger audience and we as parents appreciate a clean story.
@@edwarddavis3436 lol bad language makes you low class? Get off your high horse you fuckin yuppie
Fuck no you don't need that shit to tell a good fucking story 👍
So basically they got multiple reports of someone calling for help, knowing there was a man missing, and they didn't think to look harder?? Why did they just dismiss it when they got multiple reports he was obviously there.
Exactly. That’s when you bring out the search dogs
That’s what I kept thinking and expecting SOME ONE to take responsibility to get him the aid he needed so desperately.
Rangers: "Yeah we heard about that guy calling for help. Hmm. Bummer. Hey, who wants to play uno?"
Dogs, ground penetrating radar, loud speakers and sensitive hearing equipment, something, anything.
They need to be fired!!
About the first case, people tend to forget that sometimes humans just... snap. I've heard so many stories of regular people who just became erratic suddenly, doing weird things and going weird places. When these situations happen and there's people around they can usually get help, but if the person is alone there's a huge probability that they will get lost and/or hurt. People are fascinating.
Imagine crying out for help, people hear you, but you are still never found. :(
i really think the search squad was pretty negligent in that case. his body was found 4.2 miles away from the spot he originally wanted to hike to
For the story with Dale -- I have heard of natural places where sound gets funnelled strangely, and echoes can seem to be coming from a different direction than the source. I wonder if folks were hearing an echo of Dale calling for help and he was actually somewhere else.
It’s possible but I know people that get lost driving with gps 🤣 point being maybe they pointed out the wrong place to the rangers
I was thinking he was on another plane. Not sure I believe in those things but I've heard other stories where it seems plausible 🤷♀️
Check out "The Disappearance of Charles Ashmore" by Ambrose Bierce. It deals with that very idea. (It's fictional, but other people believed it was real, and versions of the myth still turn up in books on paranormal phenomena from time to time.)
Good call. Our house does this. Sounds as if a neighbour is to one side of the house but it's just sound bouncing around. It's a really weird effect as we have no neighbour on the side where the voices seem to be coming from.
That sounds like the most logical explanation, echos can travel for a very far distance.
I've just started watching your channel like a few hours ago, I've discovered it by chance and let me tell you I cannot stop watching, you are hands down the best story teller. ❤❤
I love missing 411. I first heard David Paulides on Coast to Coast radio about 8-9 years ago and I’ve been hooked every since
Thank you so much for talking about David's mission!!!!!! You're an awesome human being
I used to live and work off of Highway 2 in Washington. And solo backpacked a lot out there. The geography out there is some of the most dense I've experienced and it's a miracle that she even had the wherewithal to sustain herself with Huckleberry and stream water. Even more impressive she didn't succumb to hypothermia. Stoked to hear of a good ending.
You know something is way off when Mulder and Scully showed up for a simple missing person case.
The fbi does actually have a group of cases we'd call their "x-files" they call them something else. It would amaze you how much of these things the fbi takes note of even if they don't get involved.
Definitely.
Mulder and Scully 😂
Avid outdoorsmen with years of survival training gets lost in woods he’s hunted for decades? Yeah, I th ink that’s worthy of FBI attention. The whooshing sound is the only thing that’s spooky though, gotta admit.
Super suspish
Wish you could do more videos like this!
I loved your 411 coverage