What's The Best Ford Bronco: Raptor Vs. Everglades?
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In this week's podcast, Roman and Tommy discuss the new Ford Bronco Everglades and whether or not it's better than the seriously capable off-road beast, the Bronco Raptor.
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#Ford #BroncoRaptor #BroncoEverglades
For all their back-and-forth, they clearly love and respect each other, and more power to them and their relationship that they can let the disagreement be heated at times but still move on and be constructive. I am sure of one thing - they'll keep making great videos and podcasts, and I'll be keeping my Bronco Everglades order and checking with the dealer... =-D
Tommy does come off smug at times. It was entertaining watching the family dynamic.
Tommy and Andre! Tommy crushing it!
hmmmm Roman is in a mood . . .
@@WW-wf8tu Hmmmmm there is that.
SO Tommy, clearly I owe you a huge Thank you for the excellent coverage! 🙏
One of the better podcasts from TFL! Just a note on plug in hybrids. I am definitely interested, as you can use electric for 80% of the time commuting, short trips and to extend rage, but you don't have to have a second vehicle to give you unlimited range, particularly in rural areas or off road. If you look at the net emissions, the "bad" times for emissions are multiple short trips and cold start. It just doesn't fit neatly into the narrative of climate change and the end to fossil fuels (which car electrification is a small part of that complete transition).
I agree with Roman he makes a lot of good points in this video! Bring back affordable vehicles I can live with a base model
😂😂 It just felt like me talking to my son... hahahahahahaha that exchange was funny.
How is Tommy more grown up and mature than his dad?
Right, that was rough. Having to apologize to your thin skinned dad. Roman is such and EGO nut.
Great show boys
why is it when you two have a broadcast you get off topic.the other guys dont seem to.
I’m with Roman on this one Tommy. I hybrid Raptor would totally be killer. The hybrid has more power and is faster than the Raptor. Plus you would get a Raptor with a 7kw on board power for your off road/overload/camping adventures.
Holy crap! Roman sounds just like my Dad! Drove me nuts. Stand your ground Tommy!
I LOVE the father/son arguing!
I don’t understand why the Everglades Edition is sold without the selectable sway bar disconnect.
I think it's more of an overlander rig than a rock crawler.
Man I LOVE YOU GUYS! This feels like a real father son dialog! it just feels real! too much fakery on the internet!
"do i got to seperate you two?" lol
People in the comments are talking like they don't know these guys. If you been around TFL for a while you know all that banter is normal . It's all fun and games people in comments need to lighten up
Love the father son arguing....but Tommy was right on both his points! Hybrids are the best of both worlds since you can get great gas mileage and not have to charge or worry about range. Electrics are too expensive and have no range so they are interesting because they are new but not practical for anything other than tooling around town to show off.
Loved the podcast and the true differing opinions. Plus I laughed when Tommy was worried about people driving the new Hummer fast when he backed the Tesla into the garage door. Overall I wish I could drive as good as him though but that just made me laugh
You should go fist fight and get it over with! 🤣. Just for what it’s worth Roman was being the aggressor. Hey we all have bad days. Good debates guys.
A key issue with the fording depth is hydrostatic pressure on seals and gaskets on various components. It may not seem like much but those components are designed to hold oil IN components, not keep water out - sure they do that for rain and puddles - but submerging them in 30" of water is a whole other story.
Regarding gas prices and "rich folks" - I drive a vehicle that isn't the most fuel efficient (and diesel so... yay!) and usually I don't care about gas prices, but the current levels are painful - so much so that the budget I had set aside for things like upgraded steering gears, regearing and offroad trailer improvements are getting reallocated into fuel.
FYI Roman, we've had crabwalk in our H1's for... 30 years. It's not pushing new technology in any way.
Tommy's got this one
Guys this was the best interview the to of you have ever done.....hahahahah... Both of you were informative and happy..... hahahahah Nice job son and dad 👨👩👧 The Banks Family
Tommy WAS giving Roman the stank eye 😄
You'll fry the alternator before you fry any PCM'S or other electronics when water fording. The alternator is generally the limiting factor when water fording. I wonder if the 2.3L has the alternator located up higher than on the 2.7L and that's why you can only get it in a 2.3L. I understand the 100LB weight difference but I bet it's either the alternator location or a profit margin thing.
The weight allows for the same springs to be used, if they added 100 lbs, they may have needed a heavier spring rate. So money savings? Maybe?
@@DannyO0917 right on! You know FORD is keeping profit margins in mind...best in their business at it!
Fight off camera please...Notice my 4XE with 35x12.50s 2 in Mopar lift and ARB airlocker (rear). I love it and it works PERFECT for me! The 20+ works for me and lots of people. I can go to work, lunch, and home all on Electric! I've done some 4x4 trips and using 2/3 of a tank offroad, electric would never make it. "Sheep's Bridge" in AZ. Not an easy trail.
Came for the Everglades and EVs
TOMMY, I ENJOYED so much ypur Everglades videos thst I put a deposit on one. Now time to see if I get any dirty dealer tricks as this is not ussual local dealer thst regularly feeds me my Ford's.
Snorkels are originally desert air intakes designed for dusty Australian excursions. What they are intended to do is take in cleaner air up high and not from the inner front fender where tons of dust is thrown up in those conditions. They weren't originally intended for water.
What about the raptor r vs the jeep
Love you guys and debating often helps get to the real meat of the topic, but there is some frustrating tension going on here, so much more than normal. Roman always brings years of experience that has a lot of relevance and Tommy brings the younger eager well researched view point, together it often balances well, but not so much this time. Deep breath, regroup and carry on. Maybe I'm overstepping, far be it for me to tell you how to do your job, you guys are very successful and I'm a fan, but this episode was kind of rough.
You two need a vacation...
...from each other. You can't sit and argue with your arms crossed for an hour and not aggravate your audience. Good information, too much conflict.
Hope they read these comments, it’s a new video so maybe? Damn parts of this were uncomfortable. I’m not here for drama!
I think Tommy might be spot on with the equation of perceived offroad capability vs. perceived range limitations. I also think that the hummer EV and the Rivian R1T are sold out is because their production capacity is nowhere near what a normal vehicle would have been at pre-covid at maybe 100k+ vehicles per year. For a manufacturer that's probably the sweet spot though to be able to stay sold out and sell every single one. Inventory costs money.
Out of my 10 vehicles most are V8s and V6 and a 4 banger and a 4 banger turbo.
One v8 has 1500hp
Another v8 has 800hp
One v6 have 600hp
One 4 bang turbo have 500hp and all the other ones are pretty thirsty Also.
And I agree with Tommy which I rarely do I don't care about gas prices.
Roman is right about gas prices. I have money and I don't like the prices right now. Also, wish they put a powerboost option on the Raptor.
Lmao dad and son epic I get same looks from my boy and he says same thing that it's his face lol 🤣 😂 😆
WC Fields always said "Never work with animals or children".....🤣🤣, So I've heard....
Put the F150 hybrid powersystem in the Bronco, 35" tires.. roof rack yadda yadda...
Where is John the new manager person haha
Telsa doesn't make money buy selling cars they make money from a lot of people don't know carbon credit. If you want to keep operating and avoiding government fines you need to accumulate a certain amount of carbon credit (aka being green). Companies that make extra carbon credits can sell theirs to other companies that have a hard time making it. Telsa has the most carbon credit and that is how they make money and it also explains why car companies and different companies are looking into alternative energy.
You really need to watch some AUS guys going off-road.
Over there it's practically standard to have a snorkel for water fording.
It's easier to extend breathing tubes (front, rear axle + trans case) then mounting a water tight snorkel.
But I agree, having a snorkel from factory without extended breathers is dumb.
No, electronics on modern 4x4s doesn't go boom when water fording.
Does Roman listen to himself,
Also Nathan mentioning Excursion maybe running on 9 out of 10 cylinders might of affected selling it.
Starting to feel like TFL has become “The Ford Lane”
Give Roman a break LOL I like Roman he doesn’t have to try so hard because he’s already such a unique character and tommy could be hard to read sometimes.
Have a beautiful day Everyone
Love the Everglades!!!
looks like top of wheel well...
I bet the impetus to the everglade.
Toss in a ton of low cost options (for manufacture) with the eco engine to entice more purchases of the engine.
that gets enough CAFE credits for the Raptor...
Everglade with the Maverick powertrain? ... all the torque, + MPG's...
next year?
It's cool... want more power.
I agree with Roman here on the gas comment. I ordered and accepted delivery of a TRX and although it’s expensive and I make good money, I absolutely care about the amount of money I spend on gas. I borrowed money to be able to afford this truck and although I can afford the gas to keep it going as my daily driver with a 50-mile round trip commute, it’s certainly not something I just bat off. I choose not to concentrate on the amount of gas I use and choose to concentrate on how happy I am with my new truck. I believe there is definitely an automotive cliche about if you can afford it, you don’t care about gas. We are not at that level of cost in most cases. At the end of the day you can get a TRX cheaper than a heavy duty nicely equipped diesel truck.
...you drive more than I do now (being retired) and, my truck (Jeep Gladiator Rubicon, V6 gas) gets better MPG than a TRX does (and slightly better MPG than the Chevy Colorado ZR2 I was GOING to get), but if I had to drive 50miles/day commuting like you I'd likely consider getting a different (and more gas-friendly) vehicle. For now though, I'm keeping it and I certainly DO expect gas prices to drop -- eventually. Have lived through at least one "gas crisis" before (1973/OPEC-induced) so I'm in NO hurry to get rid of the Jeep.
"Jeep Wave" -- even if there are only Bronco People here. ;-)
-- BR
@@billredding2000 I’m fine with spending the money on gas. Sure it’s not where I want to put all my hard earned dollars but it’s worth it to me. There’s no other truck like the TRX.
@@RMC2021 I was limited to the mid-size truck segment, so no TRX, Raptor or Power Wagon for me. And like it or not, I also have to be "fine" with my Gladiator's MPG numbers...although I DO get pretty decent MPG on the HWY if I drive slower (of course!).
Enjoy your TRX...I know I do my Gladiator.
"Jeep Wave"
-- BR
You lost me at “available only to current reservation holders.” Ford: how irritating.
I wish theyd put the 2.7 in this. Yes I know there was problems but those were only on a few engines. 2.7 been a good one in the f150 for years now
Fight! Fight! Fight!
Yep I think everyone wants cheaper gas rich or poor everyone feels good when they arnt getting ripped.
Really love your TFL channels and content but sadly this podcast fell short of the standard that attracts many fans and automotive enthusiasts like myself. It is not my intention to be disrespectful,but I think the time has come for Roman to reconsider his involvement and participation in much of the TFL programming- I am not convinced he adds value and more significantly realizes how his moods and posturing really creates a rather negative ,unproductive and sometimes antagonistic overbearing persona, which just throws off the programme. I really respect what he has done with TFL and the drive to grow the brand and concept to what it is today. But in life we all need to know when it’s time to graciously reset and or bow out . Food for thought. Continue the good work TFL team and I am locked on!
Hey Ford how about making Tommy dad a quality control personnel he is very precise
Their interactions in the beginning is not just generational difference, it's almost cultural differences. It's a norm in todays work places.
It’s an Elitest Boomer attitude, striking down a dumb ass kid and it’s gross and abusive.
Haha..Tommy riffing his old man..
In the span of like 60 seconds, Roman got pissed at Tommy for both assuming that Roman DIDN'T know something (breather tubes on diffs) and then assuming that he DID know something (metric system).
Poor Tommy, damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.
I just don’t understand how one journalist, like say Johnny Lieberman can say the raptor is 10x better and u guys say its marginally better. Just odd to say the least. Who’s right?!
Love the channel, love the podcast. Been a fan for years, and I make sure to tune in to the podcast every week on my way to work.
Now I know you guys have acknowledged this, as have the fans, but this episode had a very odd, unproductive, and ultimately unprofessional amount of arguing.
Arguing is not debating. In this format you need to be concise and informative, while also giving your own personal takes with correct demeanor. This made me feel like a fly on the wall, forced to listen to two family members angrily bickering. To put it frankly, why would I want to listen to that?
I think you should actually address this problem and not brush it off as “it is what it is”, I don’t think it’s a sustainable model for your podcast, and you will lose viewers.
100% agree, also , did they address it? If so where ?
@@jameshalbirt5807 I’m paraphrasing but they usually acknowledge that people complain about them arguing and justify it as it being “natural conversation between son and father”. Which to me, isn’t exactly the best response to the criticism lol
@@pattymanz5776 Roman also basically invited anyone who can’t tolerate listening to their bickering to perhaps listen to other automotive podcasts. Which I can kind of respect.
Roman you look a little wawawaaa
Vehicle dealers are just gouging in the market. GM, FORD and Ram truck MSRP prices are up 10-20% in 2 years.
WHY WOULD YOU COMPARE A RAPTOR TO AN EVERGLADE? THEY ARE DESIGNED FOR DIFFERENT THINGS
Roman, you’re being a total jerk. I didn’t see what he did that way, but I’m sure captured and displayed is not the way to handle it.
As this video evolves you can see the drain on Tommy’s face, it’s sad to see the toll. Just can’t get a word in edgewise. Painful
Stopped watching at 9:15 that argument was super uncomfortable to watch Roman was acting like a child
As soon as I learned all the electronics that are in the floor of the Tacoma, I lost all interest in a snorkel.
For the Tesla they had a higher count however, they had a million cars, and only one minor crash was releated to FSD, all the others were the standard anti-collision settings, where the market is all cars, and Tesla's numbers were for 6 months the others for less, and Tesla's numbers should be measured against all accidents, e.g. 300 or so against over a million, on a mile per accident basis Tesla was 5X safer than any other car. One has to be careful, the numbers you cite are meaningless
One thing you can't say Tommy that your dad is hard on everybody
Hell yah Roman haha - thats exactly how i read that. The whole arguing thing has empowered you to take shit back.
Roman - you are totally wrong and you, you need to start seeing your son as an adult. Tommy looked at you like he totally disagreed with you and you got your feeling hurt. I will admit, it is difficult when your children reach that point when they have there own opinions - and they are different… been there done that. Instead of getting so defensive, just ask Tommy to expand on he disagrees.
Someone give Roman a snickers bar!
Wow that was making me cringe, Roman can be such a baby when he gets tired. I prefer the pod casts when its just Andre and Tommy
Roman is super sensitive.
ZERO F*CKS ABOUT THE CARBON MY TRUCK PUTS OUT!
Carbon? Hey Roman GOD IS GOING TO INCINERATE THE PLANET IN THE END! So enjoy your cars and trucks and praise GOD! DONT become one of these goddess greeny tree huggers,please and lay off Tommy bro you were really. Being grumpy😠😡 and your son was just being tommy. Love you guys been following from the start keep up the good work and GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
What did I just watch?
This father and son team does not work for me. Too stressful to listen to.
Unprofessional
I’d just pull the video down at this point. If I’m Ford I don’t want this nonsense on a product review of my Everglades Bronco.
If this is the intolerance shown to your own son and work partner what kind of person are you off camera?
I’d not invite TFL back.
This really needs rectified and fast.
I at 39 felt like I did as a child when my drunk dad would attack me, super uncomfortable to watch.
So many soft people in these comments
Do you think a Scrooge would buy suck an expensive vehicle to begin with?
fight fight fight fight
Is Roman a democrat?
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