I'm a Jamaican living in the U.S. and have many friends from Trinidad, we all get along like one big family. I really don't see any rivalry between us Jamaican and Trinidadians, I only see this garbage on social media. Good commentary Brother.
Brother i totally agree with you. I live in the US and i have many Jamaican friends, some who i even call brothers. We never had a conversation about who is better. We just on ah cool vibes.
@@YohanPartapAs someone who is from Jamaica and has visited both islands ,.I think your comparison was more Western Jamaica vs Port of Spain, "Town".Jamaica may not be Trinidad but Kingston city does hold her weight and is very urban and fast paste despite her complexities.And yes we do have buildings over 10 stories.Yes I know that Trini in you couldn't avoid that back hand slap.😂😂Its all love though.
@@YohanPartapyouth don't call up Jamaica name inna u dotti mouth,u no name country a trash to Jamaica, jamaica inna class with us and england,your nation in a class with Barbados, Bahamas
I like listening to other people's opinions. I am a Trini living in Jamaica. There is no comparison. I have lived in different countries and traveled around the world. I will live in Jamaica to my dying days. My life is now a continuous holiday especially with working from home. Ironically there are more Jamaicans living in Trinidad than Trinis living in Jamaica. One Love
@@YohanPartap have you ever been to the blue mountain peak . At the peak you can truly realize Jamaica is far above the rest. You go above the clouds so incredible
I am a Jamaican And I love Trini’s Afro and Indians all the same. I’m a vegetarian and Trinidad has a great variety of meatless dishes. One love, big up Trinidad 🇯🇲 🇹🇹.
@@YohanPartapbrother jamaica don't rival any country In the Caribbean the only rival jamaica has is the united States and great Britain so don't confuse yourself
I am from Jamaica now living England. I’ve been to Trinidad four times and I love Trinidad as a Jamaican been in Trinidad. I experience a lot of things the cultural people. Yes I agree some of the people in there are lovely and the way some of them. Talk to you sometimes, they’re very sound like a very aggressive but it’s just a culture of it but I love Trinidad. I have friends live there and I’ll go back there all the time for carnival. I don’t care what people wanna say. I love Trinidad and I love Jamaica and the broth Countries should come together. I love each other because we are one to the world 🇯🇲🇹🇹
Let me just preface my response by saying that I have visited, and lived in, 16 English, Spanish and Dutch speaking Caribbean countries (including T&T and Jamaica), and I am not Jamaican. From my experience, I find that Jamaica more closely resembles the Dominican Republic or Puerto Rico in terms of landscape. Obviously DR and PR have more high rises in those countries (please don't try pointing this out to me). Furthermore, having high-rise buildings does not equate to development or wealth! Some parts of T&T also look eerily similar to Jamaica. Port of Spain isn't the only place in T&T, juts like Montego Bay and Negril are not the only places in Jamaica. I find Jamaica, Antigua, St. Lucia and DR to be the most (naturally) beautiful and less pretentious. I find that in Trinidad, the development Yohan speaks of is very concentrated (especially in Port of Spain). Some of the buildings in Port of Spain (specifically Port of Spain) are also more modern than in Jamaica. The roads in T&T are generally better/in better condition. However, Jamaica has a far superior/impressive and sophisticated road network(s) than Trinidad (like highways, overpasses, bridges and major roads that connect secondary roads), and these road networks are spread across the country. However, some of the roads are horrible and filled with potholes in some parts of the country. This may be because Jamaica is a larger country. Likewise, development in Jamaica, which is occurring rapidly as of lately, is spread across the country. It's not heavily concentrated in one city or parish or state. Jamaica's landscape is very, very, very, very (did I say "very"?) diverse. Some places feel exactly like Florida. Some places feel like Antigua. Some places feel like Hollywood, California. Some places feel like you are in Brazil or Costa Rico. Some feel like you are in Ghana or Nigeria. Or like you are in Haiti. But believe me, there are many communities and neighborhoods in Jamaica (throughout the entire country) that many of us could not afford to live. I am talking about very posh and upscale neighborhoods that rival some of the best communities in Florida and cost millions of USDs. Obviously there are posh areas in T&T, too. There are mountains, a staggering number of waterfalls, rivers, beaches, springs, trails, caves, lagoons, etc. in Jamaica. You can find these at almost every crevice and corner in the country. Jamaica has indoor shopping centers, but not on the level of Trinidad. Jamaica is more a mall or plaza country, and if I am not mistaken, the largest outdoor mall in the English speaking Caribbean is found in Montego Bay, Jamaica (someone can correct me if I am wrong). Jamaica is a country of the "haves" or "have nots"- and then some in between. I may be overthinking it, but when I was in Trinidad, I sensed some kind of segregation between the two major ethnic or "racial" groups (someone can also let me know if I'm overthinking this). This is nonexistent in Jamaica. Jamaicans accept everybody, except LGTBQ people, which is sad. As for food, music and accents, I love them all. There are foods that I prefer in Jamaica and foods I prefer in Trinidad. Sometimes I feel for Soca, Reggae, or Dancehall. He's not kidding about the "lyme" in T&T LOL. Jamaicans love roadside dance or music (don't know the right name for it). I hate this part of the Jamaican culture! To me, it's noise disturbance and it's ghetto! But it's their culture and we should respect it. To me (emphasis on "to me"), despite some of the obvious differences, when you are in T&T, you still get the Caribbean or island feel. In terms of friendliness, it depends on who you meet. I find some Jamaicans to be very direct, and they can be brutally honest. And if they don't like you, you will know. Trust me. Some ppl find this rude or off-putting. But when they love, they love! And they tend to be loyal friends and are not pretentious nor do they put up a façade. Still, it entirely depends on the person in both countries. You will find friendly ppl in both countries and not-so-friendly ppl in both. I live in the US and used to travel for a living. I love Caribbean countries. Please do not come for me. This is my opinion and your response won't change my mind.
Your assessment about Jamaica seems fair, but the one thing you have to know about Jamaica is that our culture is entrenched with loud music - it is EVERYWHERE you go. It is customary for people in a community to gather on a Friday and Saturday night at a shop/bar where music is played, some played dominoes and other board and card games, some just laugh and chat, then go home. I think it is the equivalent of Lyme. Another thing we used to do was take turns to gather at neighbors homes and tell stories, play games, laughed and chat, then go home. Jamaica is very much a community centred society where most people who were born in a district/city, would live at that one place until death. Even if they happen to move overseas they would still maintain contact with that community since that is where their family would remain. We take "Out of Many One People" very seriously and do not tolerate any type of racism. I have no empirical evidence to prove my point, but I think Jamaica has the most interracial marriages/relationships in the Caribbean. It is so very true that all 14 parishes within Jamaica are very different; we have white sand beaches, black sand beaches, and in between; we have red dirt, black dirt, and in between in the different parishes. It is really a beautiful and unique country.
Spot on with your assessment….except the LGBQT aspect…we are far more accepting than it’s being express in dancehall music and church, especially with the younger folks now. I’ve seen evidence and heard of these lifestyles through out my childhood til now…the ‘many one ppl’ adage not only relates to races.
Thnaks for you detailed response, and I agree, malls and what not is not a real sign of developement, That is why I mentioned it being a facade. Jamica has found a balance between showcasing the island and still having what is needed for a comfortable life. i did not want to get o=into ecomicis and so on in teh video, it is menat to be more light hearted. And I do see some new developements coming to Jamica and I do hope they don't over do it and lose that island vibe. Maybe that term is what some folks on teh comments misunderstands. That is a positive thing to me, I want that island vibe. And I have to disagree, the roads in jamica are in better codiction than Trinidadm maybe in the past it was it was better, but that is not teh case now. Thereis some segregration withteh races, but I have seen it is mainly promoted by the politics. Day to day, on teh streets, we get along fine. I will not "come for you? its a opened discussion and I libe to hear different perspectives, although as you can see, I agree with alot of what you are saying.
Jamacia has troll roads highways which needs money to access in comparison Trinidad especially has in my opinion a more complex road and highway system than Jamacia maybe because of its industrial status and geography east,west,north ,south and Central and has easy access to highways seen more overpassed bridges and walkovers than anywhere in the Caribbean
I'm Trini and love Jamaicans, 1st boyfriend and 1st husband both Jamaican... Well meh leave the boyfriend and divorce meh ex husband but get the important things outta it... RECIPES from them sister and moms... Priceless! 🇹🇹🇯🇲 🇹🇹🇯🇲 🇹🇹🇯🇲
I am Trinidadian and I have a lot of Jamaican friends. Jamaicans are nice and friendly people, and you are right in the States they are more competitive, and the same for Trinis who live abroad. I admire Jamaicans patriotism. Trinidadians are patriotic as well, but Jamaicans are more loud with it. Jamaicans and Trinidadians are beautiful people.
I have heard many persons describe Jamaica as "laid back" island vibe, but to hear it from another caribbean person is quite surprising to be honest, I thought we would all be in the same boat in that aspect. You insight is quite wholesome.
To most trinis jamacia would seems more laid-back to what a person will experience living at pace in Trinidad Tobago will seems a little jamacia in some aspects but Trinidad has a uniquely different perspective to most of the islands being the southernmost islands of the Caribbean seven miles of the east of Venezuela,;there are no upscale resorts ,no white sand beaches and no tourists walking about in shorts its industrial and more makeup of factories, petrochemical industrial plants ,heavy and light manufacturing estates, shopping and business districts although 44% lands forested most of the population and major towns ,Boroughs and cities lies at the western side of Trinidad and the other major population areas lives east and west of the footstool of the northern mountains range Chaguarmas, Post of spain to Arima Trinidad in particular has a more south America geographic makeups which strangely don't see very much of the sea when you are inland in most costal towns
I'm Jamaican and the food part is very true always thought Trinidad variety is so much more especially with the street food. And have to be honest Trini food is right up there with Jamaican food. And we use to Lyme but the crime has taken so much more from us, Trini feels like the 90s Jamaica grew up in before the crime spread from Spanish Town, Mo Bay and Kingston to rest of island. But excellent analysis you got it just right and I have been to Trinidad many times love it there reminds me of what we could be, and right about consumers because you are the producer of the Caribbean. And I love your accent and I always find the Caribbean wars funny because deep down know we love each other like cousins.
Like Ato Bolden who is 1/2 Trini & Jamaican there are many such matches because at the end of tge day Trinis and Jamaicans tend to be on the same page and lyme & party well together. We like their reggae dance hall etc and they like our soca. 'Out of many one people' meets 'the rainbow country'
I was in Trinidad for eleven months yes I enjoyed myself it was good made a few friends Covid came and ask me to stay for some more time I had a few bad days but mostly good that country is friendly I was treated well but this is my country Jamaica I love being home
There's no rivalry! I'm a Trinbagonian-born living in USA. Even though I've never been to Jamaica, I (and my friends and associates) love, love Jamaicans. I've met Jamaicans who will literally give you the shirts off their backs. Honestly! Of course, there may be some negative ones, but one will find negative people in every country. I find most Jamaicans to be sweet, happy, patriotic people. Yes, I admire their love for their country. I also love all Caribbean people, regardless of race, religion or language. We need to avoid comparisons and love each other unconditionally. Materialism should not matter. Island people should emphasize their love of music, dance, simple living, and project spirituality and brotherly love. Peace and love always, my beautiful, beautiful West Indian/Caribbean brothers and sisters. One Love.
Hello and thank you for your observation. I feel very similar to how you feel in regards to him comparing between Jamaica and Trinidad. I happen to love my Jamaican food because I am Jamaican but I will say that I do enjoy and love eating Trinidadian food too as well. My sister who lives in Florida , introduced me to really good Trinidadian Tobago food simply delicious, I appreciate the food from Jamaica and I also appreciate my neighboring Trinidad Tobago …yes , the bragging rights I do believe is more here in the states than it is in the Caribbean. we are all one and again I love my Jamaican food as well as the Trinidadian , those seasonings are super delicious that’s the one thing I love about Caribbean food, delicious seasoning …. again thank you for showing the comparison and the beauty of both islands. Best wishes.
Thanks for taking the time with the detailed response, I specifally mostly stayed away from comparin dishes, because taste is subjective, you like what you like.
I live in Trinidad now have lived in other islands and I can say there are lots of similarities, But!!! I have experienced racism here!!! I have been told to " go back to Jamaica!!! What you ALL doing here?" And sometimes I just want to leave my husband right in his island and go home!!! But we lived overseas together and I will Never leave him we would go together!!! But my spirit has been shattered many times because of racism! With that said I met an Indian Muslim lady she was like a mother to me and trust me she was absolutely amazing 😍 she passed away but God/ Allah rest her soul!
100% agree with everything you said. I am a Trini living in the US one of my best friends is Jamaican and his family are so surprised by my knowledge of their music, food and culture overall. I think this rivalry is something that only exist outside of Jamaica and Trinidad
I actually love this video, I can relate to some of its contents, I’m Cuban with Colombian/Jamaican roots through grandparents on either side, I lived in Jamaica for a few years and actually learnt English in Montego Bay, I live in the UK now, The food thing is on point, I visited Trinidad in 2013 for 2 weeks and was blown away by the variety of food, taste and accessibility, I really enjoyed my time, in terms of beauty Jamaica stands out, reminds me of the Dominican Republic my wife’s country and where we have a holiday home, music is close to the people of Latin America, Jamaica included maybe has something do with its location in Central America, I would definitely visit T&T again, just not on the cards.
Trinis are our besties, we just fought on the internet because us Jamaican love to be kinda extra proud and Trini like to be like "we have oil shut up" but it's all one love
I think because Trinidad is a smaller island the people are more lumped together smaller space. Jamaicans are more scattered out . Far apart . You are correct about religion . Jamaica is not accepting of other religions coming in and taking over . Predominantly protestant Christianity. Most Caribbean island are homogeneous don't forget . Not only Jamaica . Trinidad is the only Caribbean island with an Indian majority hence the diversity .
Yes in terms of islands Yes, Guyana also has a simoalr mic to Trinidad, and history is an important part, being homogenous is not a bad thing, its a refeclt of history.
You know nothing about Trinidad 🇹🇹 it's not an Indian majority country like like Guyana!! If so why is our prime minister African? If Trinidad is majority Indian we would NEVER have a black prime Minister.
Trinidad island alone is more 7times the size of Singapore with 3.5 million inhabitants less 44% land forested saying the island smaller so its better connected is a understatement just like hearing a jamacian girl on Tictok claiming everybody knows everybody in Trinidad because it's a small island is also very incorrect in reality T&T population is 1.4 million together with approximately 150.000 undocumented immigrants 96% population lives Trinidad 4% lives Tobago Geographic T&T is undoubtedly the most biodiversity islands in the Caribbean approx 30 % mountainous Jamaica 50% Two Cities, three Boroughs,nine Regions and one ward (Tobago) TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO demographic 35% east Indians 34% Africans 15% Mixed 8% Dougla , Indian /Africans 8% Chinese/European/middle eastern
Jamaica and T&T have almost the identical population densities. Some publicans have Jamaica having a higher density suggesting Jamaican's are more "lumped together" than T&T.
@@stillirise7813 Mr man, I came here because I’ve gotten a like, was gonna reply but I saw your comments all over this video talking ish. Oh you are the Trini keyboard captain? Lol, Mr sar, we do not care about big malls, there are more important things in the world to worry about, there people dying from hunger but you here comparing a well known island which consider “poor”, with the least known island considered rich. We are busy as usual trying to make ourselves and the world happy. Once again go make videos comparing other islands and leave the legendary Jamaica alone. ✌🏾
So we gonna act like Tobago don't exist..or you never been? Beaches and nature there could match up to any other island anydayyyy I love the laid back vybe off Tobago❤🇹🇹
I've waited a long time for your comparison video. I have never visited Trinidad so accept your views on your personal experience. I would agree that jamaica could do with more diversity in its cusine. At one time British food was considered bland and boring, now due to the influx of different nationalities it greatly changed. I remember my first trip to jamaica and seeing the colour of the sea, thinking the colour cant be real it was so blue. Thanks 😊 .
Thanks for the video. I’m an American looking to move abroad. My plan is to stay 6 months in Jamaica and Trinidad before I decide. I would like for you to do a Q&A video.
I have been in touch with lots of Trinidad and Tobago, St Kitts, Antiqua and we all get along and are friends. At times, we have debates and laugh about it but we get along. Barbados, Belize, Panama and even Puerto Rico.
That was an awesome commentary on the comparison between Jamaica and Trinidad. Your view was very fair. I am Jamaican but spent most of my life in Canada and the United States. I have never been to Trinidad, but one of my best friends in Canada was from Tobago. I also had an Indian girlfriend from Trinidad who was living in Jamaica when I was young, but we lost the friendship because I believe she went back to Trinidad; I am not sure if she was a permanent resident at the time. I am ashamed to say that I really do not know what doubles is because I have never been to an authentic Trinidadian restaurant. I have had roti with the channa filling in Toronto but in Washington DC I have never seen a Trinidadian restaurant. I did see your video with all those tall buildings in Trinidad but prior to that, I didn't know that you had so many high-rise there. Also, I didn't know that you had so many shopping centers. There are quite a lot in Jamaica that maybe you are not aware of because there are so many parish capitals in Ja where they are located. I must say that Jamaicans are very friendly and kind people and it has nothing to do with tourism - it is how we were raised. So you will find everyone living in Jamaica will welcome you with open arms. Jamaican people will say they are Jamaican - they will never say they are Black, or Indian, or White, or Chinese. I am Jamaican but without being biased I must admit that Jamaica is an extremely beautiful country; I didn't realize it until a few years ago. I guess because it is where I grew up it didn't dawn on me that all those rivers, beaches, falls, and mountains was that meaningful. People in Canada and America would often ask me why would I leave such a beautiful place to live abroad and I used to wonder what they were talking about! Anyway, I am glad that you are having such a good time in Ja. I can see that you know more places in Jamaica than I do. I would suggest that you encourage some of your countrymen to move to Ja and open an authentic Trinidadian restaurant which I know would do very well. I really have no idea about Trinidadian foods whatsoever and only heard of doubles. As for the rivalry between Jamaica and Trinidad (and all Caribbean countries it seems), I find it on social media a lot. Comments are often made that Jamaica acts as if it is the only country in the Caribbean and that Jamaicans act as if they are better than every other Caribbean peoples. It is shocking to me that Jamaicans are looked upon as condescending because Jamaicans love people in general and will go out of their way to make everyone feel welcomed. We especially love Calypso music and there was a segment on Radio Jamaica when I was growing up called "Calypso Corner" where only Trinidadian music was played; there were also a few Trinidadian singers living in Jamaica. I really want to visit Trinidad very soon so I have to stay in touch. My question is - are you planning to live in Jamaica forever? Is your family planning to join you?
Thanks for the detailed response! There are Trinidad resturants in kingstion where you can get roti and doubles, got some that last time I was there. Social media I have lernt is not a good place to guage anything, I jugde by my experinces, whach have been VERY positive.
You must be the first person I heard feel and believe the same as I do about having the Island remains with that island feel… Everyone is talking about high rise buildings and sky scraper…but high buildings will will block the mountains and the beautiful sunset. Some people will not understand and appreciate what they have until they don’t have it any more …until they wake up one day and feel like they’re living in the middle of Manhattan/concrete jungle…. Embracing nature and incorporate it in our life daily make ones whole been so much more meaningful.
As a Jamaican woman I've spent months in T&T and the best thing was the beauty and style of the women. Apart from that, I wouldn't say I was a fan of the food or the visuals of the country. I was surprised that Trinis make calaloo in a white soupy mixture. Why???? Calaloo doesn't need much preparation nor additional ingredients to taste amazing. And Trinis do the same thing with June plum (I forgot what they call it in Trinidad). They completely take away the natural amazing flavor of the June plum with a bitter - tasting powder mixture. I personally wasn't happy with the food nor were my family. The only really good food we had was at an upscale Cantonese restaurant. It's the opposite in jamaica, the upscale restaurants are pretty good but the best food is found in the most humble -looking buildings or food trucks. Another thing that surprised me about Trinidad was that they don't have as many modern cars as in Jamaica.
You're delusional! Mi live in Trinidad and I see nuff nuff modern cars and as far as the callaloo it is not a white powder it is green soup like same way it has been made in west Africa for hundreds of years. The jamaican way is not natural to the ancient way
Nadia, it's quite obvious you do not know what you talking about and callaloo did not originate in Jamaican. It’s origins are in West Africa and it does not look anything like what you call callaloo. It actually is similar to what Trinidadians and the rest of the English-Speaking Caribbean make. The audacity of you saying that Trinidad does not have modern cars. What the hell are you talking about? Trinidad has higher wages and therefore, a higher standard of living than most Jamaicans. Most individuals on this feed have been to both Trinidad and Jamaica and can tell you that Trinidad has more newer cars than Jamaica. For example, in Trinidad in 2021, 11,560 cars were sold, in 2020, 10,122 were sold, in 2019, 14,670 were sold, and in 2018, 13,200 were sold. The reality is, Trinidad has newer cars on the road per population than Jamaica. Specifically, there were 923 Toyota Hilux sold in 2021. Effectively, my advice is for you to stop going to the wrong places in Trinidad b/c I am not sure you believe the nonsense you are saying.
@@shani5345 Mi kno exactly what mi a seh....she say callaloo come from powder! Mi think is di cocaine she a sniff (White powder )that mek she say that....only a delusional person wud seh dat.
Love both islands! Love your analysis and can appreciate your perspective as well. I’d love to taste Doubles. Used to ask my UWI trini classmates to make it and they never did but I hope I’ll get to visit PoS to try it one day. Big up JA n TnT 🇹🇹❤🇯🇲
They say it's a bigger version to our fried dumpling. Dem make doubles ( large fried dumplings with your choice od meat and veggies) in carnation market, early in the mornings for breakfast. Check dem out.
Great take as usual Yohan... The variety of food in Trinidad will make your head spin and the preparations are so much more than Jamaican. Jamaican food is more on a simplicity format that's why it's representated heavily in other countries, becuase it's quick to prepare. But nothing beats walking on the Brian Lara Promenade in POS with sweet smells of doubles and tons of other delicacies teasing your taste bud is truly amazing. Kingston have the most variety of food on the island with Indians, Chinese, Halal Islamic, Nigerian, Syrian, American and Cuban foods are representated heavily throughout the city. As far as malls Jamaicans lack the awareness of what a mall supposed to be, so they generally called a shopping center a mall or vice versa. The Sovereign Center in Liguanea is the only air conditioned enclosure mall in Jamaica and that's tiny in comparison to malls in Trinidad. They're over fifty ongoing constructions in Kingston where apartments and office buildings are currently being built. Also they're several skyscrapers on deck to break ground in the city too. Also four 28 storey buildings set to break ground in Reading, Saint James in the coming new year. The logistics hub are currently being worked on, where Jamaica with be the center of shipping in the caribbean. Also oil exploration, as it was recently found to have up to three billion barrels of oil off the south coast in the Walton Basin, United Oil is awaiting a production partner to start production. Yohan I think doing a weekly Live show would be a great way to further interact with Trinis and Yardys while expounding on culture similarities and current news affecting both islands, what you say about that...🤔
Never heard about the oil in Walton Basin but know about all the other developments, and mostly about the logistics hub with Kingston Harbour being the 7th largest Natural harbours in the world.
My friend Jamaica is a very complex island .. Western Jamaica was made for tourism and that's why it keeps that authentic Caribbean feel Kingston is WAAAAY different from the rest of Jamaica
Jamaica does not have a lot of indoor malls. They do have a lot of shopping centers and outdoor malls. The largest outdoor mall in the English speaking Caribbean is actually in Montego Bay, Jamaica
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I was shocked when I first came back to Kingston, Jamaica after visiting the DR that I realized that downtown JA seems kinda of bare but now hearing what he said about Trinidad confirmed my thoughts. Good video
Your presentation was very balanced. I left out Tobago which has beautiful beaches and is a beautiful island which is part of the twin island State of Trinidad and Tobago. There is a reason why Tobago has the distinction of being the most fought over island in the Caribbean by the colonial powers, and changed hands more than any other island. I have never visited Jamaica, but based on what friends have told me, believe Jamaica more beautiful than Trinidad with it's beautiful white sand beaches etc, but Tobago makes up for that if you include it in the discussion. It is one nation so you must include Tobago.
There is a synogue in Kingston. You are correct, it is mostly Christian with the different sects. Catholic, Adventist, Jehovah Witness, Baptist, Anglican, etc.
I hope it does not go full into skyscaper mode, I look at Port-of-Spain sometimes and thing how much if it is "real". By over developing I feel we lose something.
The uptown mall in Kingston is Sovereign Centre in Liguanea. Most Jamaicans are now buying directly online from big name American stores and have their stuff shipped to them. The Jamaican retailers mark ups are too high so customers are cutting out the middle man. Even in America, big box stores like Walmart are closing in some locations in some cities such as Chicago. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
@@misterlexx2721 Jamaicans tend to jump from having no access or very little access to going full fledged ahead of the curve. I remember not having a house phone when i was a kid. to everyone having a cell phone or smart phone over night.
I agree that it is definitely a cultural pride thing here in the US versus it being something on the actual islands. I had the same experience you did going to Jamaica as a Trini! Jamaica is actually one of my favorite places to visit and it is a beautiful island. One take away that you mentioned though is that here in NY we aren’t separated by Brooklyn and Queens alone. There are plenty of Trinis in Brooklyn along with Jamaicans as well, it just depends on what part of Brooklyn you are in. Liberty ave (south richmond area) isnt known specifically for Trini, it is a mixture of Trini and Guyanese Indians (mire guyanese than anything else). Otherwise great video!
Fairly good and accurate review thanks. Next one touch on education, rate of pregnancy, economics, cleansiness, variety of fruits, transportation etc...
Nice hearing you talk about this❤! Trinidad as you say, is indeed consumer based as our main resource are natural extracts like gas and oil instead of Tourism. I'd say that Tobago our sister isle is more toursim and laid back compared to Trinidad.
I know, I hear the accent. Smiling! We really are supportive because I live in North America and I love the Caribbean and I want a Caribbean fellow. Not American. LOL!
Just like how most of his comparisons focused mostly on the tourist side of Jamaica and not places like Kingston and St. Andrew and Mandeville, for example.
Yes, I did leave that out, I don't have that much expreince with Tobago, I actually have more expeince with different parts of Jamaica. Tobago does feel more liek a small islandand that is great, I like the relaxed feel it has. It has alot of the cultural mix of Trinidad but generally it is more hommogenous than Trinidad. Tobago's Tourim product is better developed than Trinidad and they treat everyone very well. although pushy Trinis have been known to annoy them from time to time.
I hope you saw my response to your comment aboive and other replies i made to otehr people, I have been to all those areas you mentioned many times. Developement is a 2 side blade, and I do think we went to far in one dicrection (and contune to go in that direction) in Trinidad. HAve to seen the recent floods in Trinidad? But yet a new mall opens up.
Home is where the heart is. Mine jamaica yours Trinidad. Holidays in Trinidad is way more.I hear trinis don’t like Jamaicans but I embrace all people except 😬. ❤️👍. Meaning the criminals 😮
I am not sure i mentioend this before, but when i visit Trinidad, i nteh begining at leat, I feel like a foriegner in my own country, takes some time to adjust. Jamaica is hoem to me, Trinidad is home to me, I love them both.
One more thing . Jamaica as a mega store similar to pricesmart called megamart. Jamaica will have more pricesmarts soon. But they don't need another one as of yet.
Jamaica has 2 Pricesmarts, Kingston and Portmore. Mega Mart is like the Jamaican Walmart. Pricesmart is really the Costco company in the Caribbean that's rebranded as Pricesmart.
You need to tour uptown Kingston. Kingston Is several times the size of port of spain . And the Kingston Metropolis as a pop of over 1.1 millions almost the same pop as t,&t entire pop. So it's not easy to get to uncover all the diversity in races across Jamaica as you can in Trinidad Jamaica is more than twice the size of Trinidad and tobago combined
Jamaica is larger than T&T but when considering Caribbean Islands which Guyana isn't T&T is almost seven (7) times the size of the next largest English speaking country Dominica. So T&T is a pretty large country for the English speaking Caribbean. Also if you looking at "Caricom" Guyana is almost twenty (20) times the size of Jamaica. So Jamaica is very small compared to Guyana. I'm "Trini" but just giving some context. Also Kingston takes up a much larger share of Jamaica's population of just under 3 million it takes more than a third of Jamaica's population while Port of Spain takes up a much smaller portion of T&T's 1.4 million with about 100k it takes up 1/14th so it's just that we haven't taken much effort or pride in trying to make Port of Spain "BIG" as you have so much pride in.
Jamaicans are very protective of the natural environment. It's like most of us we don't want to spoil the natural beauty of the island so most of the countryside is untouched
This guy literally compared rural Jamaica to Port of Spain. Western Jamaica is for tourism, so of course they'll keep that picture perfect Caribbean look.But in Kingston it's different...New Kingston alone has 2 malls.He don't really understand the contrast between urban and rural in Jamaica
There are lots of malls in Jamaica, have you been to uptown Kingston?! And Jamaican food is unmatched no matter what! Jamaica is just beautiful through and through with all our natural resources. I'm glad you said the music in Trinidad is seasonal, in Jamaica, reggae and dancehall is everyday, everywhere worldwide! And Jamaica is a very mixed countries, we have large numbers of Asians, East Indians, and whites. Some Syrians and Latinos.Trinidad has a large East Indian population, but not a lot of other mixes. Jamaican accent is number 1! Love it❤ Like you said it's worldwide and every other Islands try to mimic jamaicans🇯🇲 You got Europeans and and different races of people trying to copy Jamaicans. There is no comparison, a lot of the hate is from jealousy. We need to accept our differences and just move on with our lives🇯🇲
Thanks for watching and you insight, you would notice I called out my own bias when talking about things that are subjective, food, music etc. Also, I have been to uptown Kingston and yes there are some smaller mall like places but Trinidad has many large indoor shopping centers that I have not seen a comparison to.. BUT! That is not a bad thing! Malls, large modern buildings are not a real indicater of progress, especially on a trocpial island.
As some one who born and grow uptown and has visited Trinidad, I can indeed say they have way better malls, their worst mall makes sovereign or pavilion look like a joke .
Obviously, you are Jamaican and what most individuals don’t like about Jamaicans. This boostful outputting and annoying ways about Jamaica is the best in everything, please get a grip. The truth is, Trinidad is more mixed by percent and by the raw numbers. I am not sure what the hell you are talking about but just read your census……Jamaica is 91% African/black and 0.8% mixed while Trinidad and Tobago is 40% African/black and 18% mixed.
I like some of the comparisons. I like that you state that it's your experience. I agree that the religious diversity is more pronounced too. In Jamaica there is the dictatorship of Christianity. In terms of food as a vegetarian I will always find a vegetarian meal readily available there. I like it . I want to go back to Haripitah(sp?)
One difference that you pointed out that I also noticed was the lack of large modern shopping malls in Jamaica. I heard that this was the case from a Jamaican co worker of mine in T&T but saw it for myself when I went there. I don't understand why this is because Jamaica has a big enough population to sustain them.
You didn't mention the living conditions in both countries. One of the things that surprises me about Jamaica vs the Caribbean countries are the mansions that are present all over Jamaica.
I live in Miami Florida and have a lot of Jamaicans friends and there's absolutely no rivalry period..i would say since we are guys we do shit talk about each other culture sometimes (jokes of course)..but at the end of the day is all love between us...yes we might be from different Caribbean islands.. but being from the same region technically makes us one ppl and im fine with that 😊
In terms of food, from what you say, only Japanese food and creole food and certain types of Indian food, other that, Jamaica has Syrian and Chinese food and Jamaican indigenous food. Roti was common in Jamaica in the 70s as was curry goat feed parties. Things change.
Thanks for your feedback, I said in teh video Trinidad also has Syrain and Chinese food. There are Chinese resturants in most vallages in Trinidad. I know that there is a variety of food in Jamaica, but it seems to be more accessible in Trinidad.
@@YohanPartap I hear you. Things must have changed, as there were tons of Chinese restaurants in the major towns. Downtown Kingston alone had a few on Princess Street, plus the famous ones like Wong Kei, Cathay, Fah Mee, Mee Mee, Golden Bowl, Golden Dragon, Joong Wong, Jade Gardens, etc, etc.
@@YohanPartap Syrian was less but there were a few and Pita Bread aka Syrian Bread was common. What TnT undoubtedly had more of would be Indian restaurants. I recall the Turban on Hagley Pk road, but curry meals were served in Jamaican restaurants.
The Jamaica black culture is extremely African centric and very dominantly so. It's hard for any other culture to rise up in Jamaica. Maybe the Chinese could . In Kingston they have Chinese cultural facilities . In st Catherine and Manchester they have a few Muslim mosques. There are a few Indian restaurants in the uptown Kingston areas . Kingston as middle eastern restaurants in the uptown areas. They have one called Beirut. Kingston as Thai restaurants and Chinese restaurants all over its just that the other races in Jamaica do not try to establish themselves as a separate culture they all adopt to yhr Jamaican black culture . But you will have to travel Jamaica extensively for like 10 years or more to truly get to truly understand and know the ins and outs of Jamaica.
Chinese and Indians are represented in ALL aspects of Jamaican life - our Deputy Prime Minister is Chinese and several members of government. Indians are represented in government and all aspects of Jamaican life. Sorry that you were called Coolie growing up but I do not believe it was with malice as Chinese were called Mr. Chin and Miss Chin" but they know it is not with malice. There is absolutely no racism in Jamaica and no one is excluded in any way. I grew up around Indians and the entire community went to all their functions; we did NOT see the race of anyone - we were ALL Jamaicans. When you say "rise up' what exactly are you talking about?
@@boynton20 Many of our Miss Jamaica and Miss World were Indian background. We have Jamaican singers who are Indians; you should know that a Jamaican is lauded and backed by their Jamaican people no matter their race.
That relaxed feeling is unemployment.... With these customs duties jamaica is shopping hell... Ive been to trinidad as a child on a cub scout trip.. one of your older kids stepped on my shoe and said "stupid jamaican" and he pushed me... I think he learned that from his parents.. I think there is a section of trinidadians that dont like jamaicans.. You dont meet agressive jamaicans cuz u deh somewhere up town
We have a couple of mosques in Jamaica...I knew of 2 small ones but was surprised last year when I came across a fairly large....keep up the videos...like your opinions
There is no rival it’s just patriarchy towards one’s island I can say that because here in New York the people from the island and from Africa mostly chill together in high school and if you mess with one you mostly likely will have to talk to another island person.
There is no comparison of mountains in Jam and TnT. Highest point in TnT is 940m, while in Jam, Blue Mtn Peak is 2,256m, so 3084ft compared to 7,402ft. Not even Cuba have a higher peak than Jamaica. In the Caribbean, only Hispaniola have higher peaks than the blue Mountain peak.
I also think you commentary on the verses is fair and balanced yet I was expecting a ripping of Jamaica. I am a patty lover to the core, nothing of that nature can supersede Jamaican patties but I told my Jamaican friend living in Trinidad that I wish to be picked up at Piarco and taken directly to a Doubles stand to have my first taste. I now see through your thought that the rivalry is in the diaspora and not on the island. We are not rivals in music or athletics these are the domain of Jamaica. T&Tis T&T, JA is JA t here's no position to jockey about, you are you and wi a wi.
Yes, I am baised I tried to call it out. My point is, for smaller country, Trinidad has a more commercialised shopping culture, which is not always a good thing.
So I’ve noticed in my travels….the language and tonality of “patwa” adds to aggressive nature of our speech. Creole, Spanish and french has those ‘s’, ‘ou’ “ie’ while patwa being very expressive adjectives and nouns. From add H to orange and taking it outta ‘three” . Being blunt and matter of fact loud ass ppl as well doesn’t help. We love our culture and expresses it every chance we get but yes aren’t a monolith… we are many types of ppl….but make up happy or mad….then you tend to see we are the same.
Man ust talk about trini music like it comparable or on the same level as Jamaican music. With the greatest of respect and with no animosity whatsoever, they are not on the same level even remotely. Reggae/dancehall is like literally the most powerful music on the planet. Literally all genres were influenced by it. And it the same thing culturally. Jamaican culture has consistently been recognized as among the most influential on the planet. Jamaica gave the world so many iconic things in that regard. Sports with Usain, music with Bob, culture and panafricanism with Marcus Garvey, not even mention number 1 destination like literally forever and I can go on and on. Respectfully, not saying Jamaica is better but I think you kinda downplayed Jamaica a WHOLE lot.
@@jamdawgutube two things can't be true at the same time in this scenario. And I'm sure the things I listed are facts. T&T nowhere has the same footprint that Jamaica has in no area.
@@mefirst902 I usually try to stay away from the petty arguments but here goes. I see u mentioned influence I would advise u to learn ur history. I swear Google is free, reggae is basically a baby compared to calypso. I know yall are proud n push others down to lift urself up but don't be ignorant to the truth and history....without calypso and Lynn taitt there would be no reggea... I said what I said! 🤐
Thanks for your response and if I did not get what i really meant to say out properply. I have been to Kingstoin many times, and other partso f Jamaica, I don't see Jamaica as being rural, not at all. And the comparsion of develeopment is not saying Jamaica is behind, I actually think the opposite. I like that Jamaica has found a way to hold on to the island life and feel that I have grown to love. Yes Trinidad has alot of big malls and such, but to me, that is not a real sign of develpomet and can be a facade, hiding other very serious issues. I did not want to get to political in the video. So having malls and such and trying to look more like US etc, to me is not the way to go all the time, we should try to hold on to what makes us great as Caribbean islands. Hope this help clear up my thoughts.
You are right in alot of what are saying of a surety Trinidad is more development because Trinidad has oil and natural gas , Jamaica just only mostly depends on Tourism, and is also a bigger island by landscape ,and so it will take more revenue for better infrastructure, and is slowly getting there, as it was in the old days, but as a jamaican I love all the caribean countries, because we are similar in somethings but yet unuiqe in the other , also jamaican do not see race as jamaican if you are other than black, whatever ethnic group you are from as long as you a jamaican we see you as just that , but I have friend from Trinidad and love Trinidad ,especially Tobago, which remind me of one particular Parish in Jamaica Portland.
@@christophernelson4824 well if can permit me to say one important differences between both countries 1# both are mixed economies Jamaica has a middle income economy T&T has a high income economy;Gdp 37 Billion Jamaica ,Gdp 45 Billion T&T That to say consumerism in Trinidad is very large were once labeled having the most garbage disposal waste in the world per capita ;as result of stable economy for decades mainly because of its petrochemical industry and manufacturing industries but still lack development in certain areas because of mismanagement and corruption Unfortunately Jamaica doesn't have those luxuries and the IMF death trap didn't make decades of sustainability growth possible until recently Understanding these main differences doesn't mean one country is better than another its just depends on how one managed their daily life
@@jasonphillips8754 Would be interested to hear your comparison of the current state of both economies and their development trajectory. Jamaica also has a huge underground economy. Some of the biggest mansions in the rural parts of Jamaica are owned by taxi drivers and vendors.
We see Venezuala from teh south coast of Trinidad, I have a video on my channel called Jouney to teh edge of Trinidad or something like that where you actually see it. and Yes, we do have have cuktral connections with our neighbours, Parang Music at Chistmas time and also in our food.
@@YohanPartap There's also a large population of Trinidadians in Venezuela, in fact, Calipso is also a typical musical genre in Venezuela with local adaptations. Now with the Venezuelan crisis there are also many Venezuelans living in Trinidad. I don't really live that close to the border between the two countries because I'm from Paraguaná, a peninsula located in the northwest of Venezuela, surrounded by the Caribbean Sea and right next to Aruba (Dutch Kingdom). Interestingly, here we have a very famous local dish, the curry goat that was brought from Trinidad to Paraguaná (Venezuela) a long time ago.
I have never had a problem shopping in our plaza, i can buy everything that we want, i guess we like the plaza feeling , the mall Vybz you mention there is on in portmore call portmore mall, as for food, we have so many variety, it maybe not at one spot like you mentioned but if you drive around it's there, Jamaican are too stubborn in most instances to accept probably many many cuisines but i have had japanese, Chinese , indians there, i think it would be nice to have a Trini restaurant there as well
Check to see the number of Miss Worlds Jamaica has had. Can't speak to the food because there was no Trinidadian restaurant in Jamaica when I was living there, so I have never eaten Trinidadian food. Anyway, I am looking forward to trying the food because I understand that there are a few Trinidadian restaurants now. But maybe I should visit TT for the authentic experience.
@@mdl9096 coming with the facts…I like that. Your rebuttal seems sound. I’ll take your word for it. JA gotta learn to leave some attributes on the plate for others.Ball hogging them blessings 😅
@@deeqahmed2291Don't forget that Trinidad has Calypso carnival locked. OK. I will tell the new crop of sprinters to slow down a bit. That is the best that I can do for you 😃
Well, I’ve seen time and time again on the internet, things to do with Jamaica - negative or (desirable) comments from Trinidadians. ‘JA oxoxo is zzzzz.’ ‘In T&T ours is %%%%.’ The recent carnival in JA is one of several examples, What do I mean by desirable: if a certain Famous Person visitJamaica, you can guarantee... a... ‘you must come to T&T.’ ‘we got xxxxx in T&T, it’s like xxxxx in T&T.’ Rarely, do you get such response from other Islands. So rare that such response from another Island is highly appreciative when it happens. Just saying. 🌞🇯🇲😍🇹🇹
I'm a Jamaican living in the U.S. and have many friends from Trinidad, we all get along like one big family. I really don't see any rivalry between us Jamaican and Trinidadians, I only see this garbage on social media. Good commentary Brother.
I too, I am Trinidadian/Tobagonian and nobody with their pettiness would put me against Jamaicans or any other country-men. One love 😍
United WE stand Divided We Fall .where is the Brother Hood
Probably cause you are in the us😂
Brother i totally agree with you. I live in the US and i have many Jamaican friends, some who i even call brothers. We never had a conversation about who is better. We just on ah cool vibes.
Very true
Big up
Trinidad and Jamaica One love 🇹🇹🇯🇲👍👍
Fell for what exactly?
@@YohanPartapAs someone who is from Jamaica and has visited both islands ,.I think your comparison was more Western Jamaica vs Port of Spain, "Town".Jamaica may not be Trinidad but Kingston city does hold her weight and is very urban and fast paste despite her complexities.And yes we do have buildings over 10 stories.Yes I know that Trini in you couldn't avoid that back hand slap.😂😂Its all love though.
@@YohanPartapyouth don't call up Jamaica name inna u dotti mouth,u no name country a trash to Jamaica, jamaica inna class with us and england,your nation in a class with Barbados, Bahamas
I like listening to other people's opinions. I am a Trini living in Jamaica. There is no comparison. I have lived in different countries and traveled around the world.
I will live in Jamaica to my dying days. My life is now a continuous holiday especially with working from home. Ironically there are more Jamaicans living in Trinidad than Trinis living in Jamaica.
One Love
I love this island also!
Yes Jamaica Is on its own level when it comes to natural beauty
I just love the natural beauty of Jamaica, its hard to beat.
@@YohanPartap have you ever been to the blue mountain peak . At the peak you can truly realize Jamaica is far above the rest. You go above the clouds so incredible
@@boynton20 Man I really want to!
I am a Jamaican And I love Trini’s Afro and Indians all the same. I’m a vegetarian and Trinidad has a great variety of meatless dishes. One love, big up Trinidad 🇯🇲 🇹🇹.
Thanks for sharing!!
Im a Jamaican who's been to Trinidad, and I agree with 99% of what you said. Needless to say, Trinidad could easily be a second home 🇯🇲 ❤ 🇹🇹
Thanks and Jamaica is my home!
@@YohanPartapbrother jamaica don't rival any country In the Caribbean the only rival jamaica has is the united States and great Britain so don't confuse yourself
I am from Jamaica now living England. I’ve been to Trinidad four times and I love Trinidad as a Jamaican been in Trinidad. I experience a lot of things the cultural people. Yes I agree some of the people in there are lovely and the way some of them. Talk to you sometimes, they’re very sound like a very aggressive but it’s just a culture of it but I love Trinidad. I have friends live there and I’ll go back there all the time for carnival. I don’t care what people wanna say. I love Trinidad and I love Jamaica and the broth Countries should come together. I love each other because we are one to the world 🇯🇲🇹🇹
Yes, we are Caribbean cousiin all of us.
Let me just preface my response by saying that I have visited, and lived in, 16 English, Spanish and Dutch speaking Caribbean countries (including T&T and Jamaica), and I am not Jamaican. From my experience, I find that Jamaica more closely resembles the Dominican Republic or Puerto Rico in terms of landscape. Obviously DR and PR have more high rises in those countries (please don't try pointing this out to me). Furthermore, having high-rise buildings does not equate to development or wealth! Some parts of T&T also look eerily similar to Jamaica. Port of Spain isn't the only place in T&T, juts like Montego Bay and Negril are not the only places in Jamaica. I find Jamaica, Antigua, St. Lucia and DR to be the most (naturally) beautiful and less pretentious. I find that in Trinidad, the development Yohan speaks of is very concentrated (especially in Port of Spain). Some of the buildings in Port of Spain (specifically Port of Spain) are also more modern than in Jamaica. The roads in T&T are generally better/in better condition. However, Jamaica has a far superior/impressive and sophisticated road network(s) than Trinidad (like highways, overpasses, bridges and major roads that connect secondary roads), and these road networks are spread across the country. However, some of the roads are horrible and filled with potholes in some parts of the country. This may be because Jamaica is a larger country. Likewise, development in Jamaica, which is occurring rapidly as of lately, is spread across the country. It's not heavily concentrated in one city or parish or state. Jamaica's landscape is very, very, very, very (did I say "very"?) diverse. Some places feel exactly like Florida. Some places feel like Antigua. Some places feel like Hollywood, California. Some places feel like you are in Brazil or Costa Rico. Some feel like you are in Ghana or Nigeria. Or like you are in Haiti. But believe me, there are many communities and neighborhoods in Jamaica (throughout the entire country) that many of us could not afford to live. I am talking about very posh and upscale neighborhoods that rival some of the best communities in Florida and cost millions of USDs. Obviously there are posh areas in T&T, too. There are mountains, a staggering number of waterfalls, rivers, beaches, springs, trails, caves, lagoons, etc. in Jamaica. You can find these at almost every crevice and corner in the country. Jamaica has indoor shopping centers, but not on the level of Trinidad. Jamaica is more a mall or plaza country, and if I am not mistaken, the largest outdoor mall in the English speaking Caribbean is found in Montego Bay, Jamaica (someone can correct me if I am wrong). Jamaica is a country of the "haves" or "have nots"- and then some in between. I may be overthinking it, but when I was in Trinidad, I sensed some kind of segregation between the two major ethnic or "racial" groups (someone can also let me know if I'm overthinking this). This is nonexistent in Jamaica. Jamaicans accept everybody, except LGTBQ people, which is sad. As for food, music and accents, I love them all. There are foods that I prefer in Jamaica and foods I prefer in Trinidad. Sometimes I feel for Soca, Reggae, or Dancehall. He's not kidding about the "lyme" in T&T LOL. Jamaicans love roadside dance or music (don't know the right name for it). I hate this part of the Jamaican culture! To me, it's noise disturbance and it's ghetto! But it's their culture and we should respect it. To me (emphasis on "to me"), despite some of the obvious differences, when you are in T&T, you still get the Caribbean or island feel. In terms of friendliness, it depends on who you meet. I find some Jamaicans to be very direct, and they can be brutally honest. And if they don't like you, you will know. Trust me. Some ppl find this rude or off-putting. But when they love, they love! And they tend to be loyal friends and are not pretentious nor do they put up a façade. Still, it entirely depends on the person in both countries. You will find friendly ppl in both countries and not-so-friendly ppl in both. I live in the US and used to travel for a living. I love Caribbean countries. Please do not come for me. This is my opinion and your response won't change my mind.
Your assessment about Jamaica seems fair, but the one thing you have to know about Jamaica is that our culture is entrenched with loud music - it is EVERYWHERE you go. It is customary for people in a community to gather on a Friday and Saturday night at a shop/bar where music is played, some played dominoes and other board and card games, some just laugh and chat, then go home. I think it is the equivalent of Lyme. Another thing we used to do was take turns to gather at neighbors homes and tell stories, play games, laughed and chat, then go home. Jamaica is very much a community centred society where most people who were born in a district/city, would live at that one place until death. Even if they happen to move overseas they would still maintain contact with that community since that is where their family would remain. We take "Out of Many One People" very seriously and do not tolerate any type of racism. I have no empirical evidence to prove my point, but I think Jamaica has the most interracial marriages/relationships in the Caribbean. It is so very true that all 14 parishes within Jamaica are very different; we have white sand beaches, black sand beaches, and in between; we have red dirt, black dirt, and in between in the different parishes. It is really a beautiful and unique country.
Spot on with your assessment….except the LGBQT aspect…we are far more accepting than it’s being express in dancehall music and church, especially with the younger folks now. I’ve seen evidence and heard of these lifestyles through out my childhood til now…the ‘many one ppl’ adage not only relates to races.
Thnaks for you detailed response, and I agree, malls and what not is not a real sign of developement, That is why I mentioned it being a facade. Jamica has found a balance between showcasing the island and still having what is needed for a comfortable life. i did not want to get o=into ecomicis and so on in teh video, it is menat to be more light hearted. And I do see some new developements coming to Jamica and I do hope they don't over do it and lose that island vibe. Maybe that term is what some folks on teh comments misunderstands. That is a positive thing to me, I want that island vibe. And I have to disagree, the roads in jamica are in better codiction than Trinidadm maybe in the past it was it was better, but that is not teh case now. Thereis some segregration withteh races, but I have seen it is mainly promoted by the politics. Day to day, on teh streets, we get along fine. I will not "come for you? its a opened discussion and I libe to hear different perspectives, although as you can see, I agree with alot of what you are saying.
@@mdl9096 Are jamaicans still allowed access to those beaches?
Jamacia has troll roads highways which needs money to access in comparison Trinidad especially has in my opinion a more complex road and highway system than Jamacia maybe because of its industrial status and geography east,west,north ,south and Central and has easy access to highways seen more overpassed bridges and walkovers than anywhere in the Caribbean
I'm Trini and love Jamaicans, 1st boyfriend and 1st husband both Jamaican... Well meh leave the boyfriend and divorce meh ex husband but get the important things outta it... RECIPES from them sister and moms... Priceless! 🇹🇹🇯🇲 🇹🇹🇯🇲 🇹🇹🇯🇲
Thanks for sharing!
I am Trinidadian and I have a lot of Jamaican friends. Jamaicans are nice and friendly people, and you are right in the States they are more competitive, and the same for Trinis who live abroad. I admire Jamaicans patriotism. Trinidadians are patriotic as well, but Jamaicans are more loud with it. Jamaicans and Trinidadians are beautiful people.
Thanks for sharing!
I have heard many persons describe Jamaica as "laid back" island vibe, but to hear it from another caribbean person is quite surprising to be honest, I thought we would all be in the same boat in that aspect. You insight is quite wholesome.
To most trinis jamacia would seems more laid-back to what a person will experience living at pace in Trinidad
Tobago will seems a little jamacia in some aspects but Trinidad has a uniquely different perspective to most of the islands being the southernmost islands of the Caribbean seven miles of the east of Venezuela,;there are no upscale resorts ,no white sand beaches and no tourists walking about in shorts its industrial and more makeup of factories, petrochemical industrial plants ,heavy and light manufacturing estates, shopping and business districts
although 44% lands forested most of the population and major towns ,Boroughs and cities lies at the western side of Trinidad and the other major population areas lives east and west of the footstool of the northern mountains range Chaguarmas, Post of spain to Arima
Trinidad in particular has a more south America geographic makeups which strangely don't see very much of the sea when you are inland in most costal towns
I'm Jamaican and the food part is very true always thought Trinidad variety is so much more especially with the street food. And have to be honest Trini food is right up there with Jamaican food. And we use to Lyme but the crime has taken so much more from us, Trini feels like the 90s Jamaica grew up in before the crime spread from Spanish Town, Mo Bay and Kingston to rest of island. But excellent analysis you got it just right and I have been to Trinidad many times love it there reminds me of what we could be, and right about consumers because you are the producer of the Caribbean. And I love your accent and I always find the Caribbean wars funny because deep down know we love each other like cousins.
Thanks for your perspective!
Like Ato Bolden who is 1/2 Trini & Jamaican there are many such matches because at the end of tge day Trinis and Jamaicans tend to be on the same page and lyme & party well together. We like their reggae dance hall etc and they like our soca. 'Out of many one people' meets 'the rainbow country'
You have no clue about Jamaican food.
Producer? Be specific dawlin. Producer what? Snacks?
I was in Trinidad for eleven months yes I enjoyed myself it was good made a few friends Covid came and ask me to stay for some more time I had a few bad days but mostly good that country is friendly I was treated well but this is my country Jamaica I love being home
There's no rivalry! I'm a Trinbagonian-born living in USA. Even though I've never been to Jamaica, I (and my friends and associates) love, love Jamaicans. I've met Jamaicans who will literally give you the shirts off their backs. Honestly! Of course, there may be some negative ones, but one will find negative people in every country. I find most Jamaicans to be sweet, happy, patriotic people. Yes, I admire their love for their country. I also love all Caribbean people, regardless of race, religion or language. We need to avoid comparisons and love each other unconditionally. Materialism should not matter. Island people should emphasize their love of music, dance, simple living, and project spirituality and brotherly love. Peace and love always, my beautiful, beautiful West Indian/Caribbean brothers and sisters. One Love.
Yet dem doh live we so
As mentioned, to me its more a friendly rivalry, I live in Jamaica and I love it and my Jamaica brotehr and sisters.
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Last time I checked the name of my country is TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO!
Like he doh know nutten about Tobago.. he ain't mention we ah tall!
Trinidad is the dominant island
Hello and thank you for your observation. I feel very similar to how you feel in regards to him comparing between Jamaica and Trinidad. I happen to love my Jamaican food because I am Jamaican but I will say that I do enjoy and love eating Trinidadian food too as well. My sister who lives in Florida , introduced me to really good Trinidadian Tobago food simply delicious, I appreciate the food from Jamaica and I also appreciate my neighboring Trinidad Tobago …yes , the bragging rights I do believe is more here in the states than it is in the Caribbean. we are all one and again I love my Jamaican food as well as the Trinidadian , those seasonings are super delicious that’s the one thing I love about Caribbean food, delicious seasoning …. again thank you for showing the comparison and the beauty of both islands. Best wishes.
Thanks for taking the time with the detailed response, I specifally mostly stayed away from comparin dishes, because taste is subjective, you like what you like.
@@YohanPartap AND I LOVE WHAT I LOVE
I live in Trinidad now have lived in other islands and I can say there are lots of similarities, But!!! I have experienced racism here!!! I have been told to " go back to Jamaica!!! What you ALL doing here?" And sometimes I just want to leave my husband right in his island and go home!!! But we lived overseas together and I will Never leave him we would go together!!! But my spirit has been shattered many times because of racism! With that said I met an Indian Muslim lady she was like a mother to me and trust me she was absolutely amazing 😍 she passed away but God/ Allah rest her soul!
@@meghanffieffer I am soo sorry for your experience in my homeland I hope things get better for you ❤
100% agree with everything you said. I am a Trini living in the US one of my best friends is Jamaican and his family are so surprised by my knowledge of their music, food and culture overall. I think this rivalry is something that only exist outside of Jamaica and Trinidad
I actually love this video, I can relate to some of its contents, I’m Cuban with Colombian/Jamaican roots through grandparents on either side, I lived in Jamaica for a few years and actually learnt English in Montego Bay, I live in the UK now, The food thing is on point, I visited Trinidad in 2013 for 2 weeks and was blown away by the variety of food, taste and accessibility, I really enjoyed my time, in terms of beauty Jamaica stands out, reminds me of the Dominican Republic my wife’s country and where we have a holiday home, music is close to the people of Latin America, Jamaica included maybe has something do with its location in Central America, I would definitely visit T&T again, just not on the cards.
Thanks for your insight!
Trinis are our besties, we just fought on the internet because us Jamaican love to be kinda extra proud and Trini like to be like "we have oil shut up" but it's all one love
All one love, its freindly, like siblings.
Jamaicans are like the Nigerians of the Caribbeans, is what I’ve been told.
My mom is Jamaican, I wonder if she’d agree?
You're fair and balance in your descriptions of both countries.You have just gotten a new subscriber.One Caribbean,one people.
I think because Trinidad is a smaller island the people are more lumped together smaller space. Jamaicans are more scattered out . Far apart . You are correct about religion . Jamaica is not accepting of other religions coming in and taking over . Predominantly protestant Christianity. Most Caribbean island are homogeneous don't forget . Not only Jamaica . Trinidad is the only Caribbean island with an Indian majority hence the diversity .
Yes in terms of islands Yes, Guyana also has a simoalr mic to Trinidad, and history is an important part, being homogenous is not a bad thing, its a refeclt of history.
You know nothing about Trinidad 🇹🇹 it's not an Indian majority country like like Guyana!! If so why is our prime minister African? If Trinidad is majority Indian we would NEVER have a black prime Minister.
Trinidad island alone is more 7times the size of Singapore with 3.5 million inhabitants less
44% land forested saying the island smaller so its better connected is a understatement just like hearing a jamacian girl on Tictok claiming everybody knows everybody in Trinidad because it's a small island is also very incorrect in reality
T&T population is 1.4 million together with approximately 150.000 undocumented immigrants 96% population lives Trinidad 4% lives Tobago
Geographic T&T is undoubtedly the most biodiversity islands in the Caribbean approx 30 % mountainous Jamaica 50%
Two Cities, three Boroughs,nine Regions and one ward (Tobago)
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO demographic
35% east Indians
34% Africans
15% Mixed
8% Dougla , Indian /Africans
8% Chinese/European/middle eastern
Jamaica and T&T have almost the identical population densities. Some publicans have Jamaica having a higher density suggesting Jamaican's are more "lumped together" than T&T.
@@stillirise7813 Mr man, I came here because I’ve gotten a like, was gonna reply but I saw your comments all over this video talking ish. Oh you are the Trini keyboard captain? Lol, Mr sar, we do not care about big malls, there are more important things in the world to worry about, there people dying from hunger but you here comparing a well known island which consider “poor”, with the least known island considered rich. We are busy as usual trying to make ourselves and the world happy. Once again go make videos comparing other islands and leave the legendary Jamaica alone. ✌🏾
I am a born trini,an love my twin island,Trinidad and Tobago.
And its much more beautiful than i show
I am Dominican and I am set and clear that trinidad and Tobago has rhe best food ever!!!! Better then Dominican.
So we gonna act like Tobago don't exist..or you never been? Beaches and nature there could match up to any other island anydayyyy I love the laid back vybe off Tobago❤🇹🇹
Yes!!!! Tobago is a real beauty to behold.....nature untouched by man. It's so relaxing, peaceful....and don't talk about their food....just amazing!
If u knew Jamaica, you'd understand.
Trini here born and raised ❤❤❤
Thanks for watching!
Love my island, very well developed 🇹🇹🇺🇸
Thank you for loving our country and you always welcome
Thank you! 😃
I've waited a long time for your comparison video. I have never visited Trinidad so accept your views on your personal experience. I would agree that jamaica could do with more diversity in its cusine. At one time British food was considered bland and boring, now due to the influx of different nationalities it greatly changed. I remember my first trip to jamaica and seeing the colour of the sea, thinking the colour cant be real it was so blue. Thanks 😊
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Thanks for the video. I’m an American looking to move abroad. My plan is to stay 6 months in Jamaica and Trinidad before I decide. I would like for you to do a Q&A video.
I have been in touch with lots of Trinidad and Tobago, St Kitts, Antiqua and we all get along and are friends. At times, we have debates and laugh about it but we get along. Barbados, Belize, Panama and even Puerto Rico.
That is great to hear!
That was an awesome commentary on the comparison between Jamaica and Trinidad. Your view was very fair. I am Jamaican but spent most of my life in Canada and the United States. I have never been to Trinidad, but one of my best friends in Canada was from Tobago. I also had an Indian girlfriend from Trinidad who was living in Jamaica when I was young, but we lost the friendship because I believe she went back to Trinidad; I am not sure if she was a permanent resident at the time. I am ashamed to say that I really do not know what doubles is because I have never been to an authentic Trinidadian restaurant. I have had roti with the channa filling in Toronto but in Washington DC I have never seen a Trinidadian restaurant. I did see your video with all those tall buildings in Trinidad but prior to that, I didn't know that you had so many high-rise there. Also, I didn't know that you had so many shopping centers. There are quite a lot in Jamaica that maybe you are not aware of because there are so many parish capitals in Ja where they are located. I must say that Jamaicans are very friendly and kind people and it has nothing to do with tourism - it is how we were raised. So you will find everyone living in Jamaica will welcome you with open arms. Jamaican people will say they are Jamaican - they will never say they are Black, or Indian, or White, or Chinese. I am Jamaican but without being biased I must admit that Jamaica is an extremely beautiful country; I didn't realize it until a few years ago. I guess because it is where I grew up it didn't dawn on me that all those rivers, beaches, falls, and mountains was that meaningful. People in Canada and America would often ask me why would I leave such a beautiful place to live abroad and I used to wonder what they were talking about! Anyway, I am glad that you are having such a good time in Ja. I can see that you know more places in Jamaica than I do. I would suggest that you encourage some of your countrymen to move to Ja and open an authentic Trinidadian restaurant which I know would do very well. I really have no idea about Trinidadian foods whatsoever and only heard of doubles.
As for the rivalry between Jamaica and Trinidad (and all Caribbean countries it seems), I find it on social media a lot. Comments are often made that Jamaica acts as if it is the only country in the Caribbean and that Jamaicans act as if they are better than every other Caribbean peoples. It is shocking to me that Jamaicans are looked upon as condescending because Jamaicans love people in general and will go out of their way to make everyone feel welcomed. We especially love Calypso music and there was a segment on Radio Jamaica when I was growing up called "Calypso Corner" where only Trinidadian music was played; there were also a few Trinidadian singers living in Jamaica.
I really want to visit Trinidad very soon so I have to stay in touch.
My question is - are you planning to live in Jamaica forever? Is your family planning to join you?
I think his views were more Montego Bay western Jamaica vs Trinidad.
Thanks for the detailed response! There are Trinidad resturants in kingstion where you can get roti and doubles, got some that last time I was there. Social media I have lernt is not a good place to guage anything, I jugde by my experinces, whach have been VERY positive.
I have been to most part sof Jamaica and it is based on that.
You must be the first person I heard feel and believe the same as I do about having the Island remains with that island feel… Everyone is talking about high rise buildings and sky scraper…but high buildings will will block the mountains and the beautiful sunset. Some people will not understand and appreciate what they have until they don’t have it any more …until they wake up one day and feel like they’re living in the middle of Manhattan/concrete jungle…. Embracing nature and incorporate it in our life daily make ones whole been so much more meaningful.
Thanks for sharing
As a Jamaican woman I've spent months in T&T and the best thing was the beauty and style of the women. Apart from that, I wouldn't say I was a fan of the food or the visuals of the country. I was surprised that Trinis make calaloo in a white soupy mixture. Why???? Calaloo doesn't need much preparation nor additional ingredients to taste amazing. And Trinis do the same thing with June plum (I forgot what they call it in Trinidad). They completely take away the natural amazing flavor of the June plum with a bitter - tasting powder mixture. I personally wasn't happy with the food nor were my family. The only really good food we had was at an upscale Cantonese restaurant. It's the opposite in jamaica, the upscale restaurants are pretty good but the best food is found in the most humble -looking buildings or food trucks. Another thing that surprised me about Trinidad was that they don't have as many modern cars as in Jamaica.
Thanks for watching!
You're delusional! Mi live in Trinidad and I see nuff nuff modern cars and as far as the callaloo it is not a white powder it is green soup like same way it has been made in west Africa for hundreds of years. The jamaican way is not natural to the ancient way
Nadia, it's quite obvious you do not know what you talking about and callaloo did not originate in Jamaican. It’s origins are in West Africa and it does not look anything like what you call callaloo. It actually is similar to what Trinidadians and the rest of the English-Speaking Caribbean make. The audacity of you saying that Trinidad does not have modern cars. What the hell are you talking about? Trinidad has higher wages and therefore, a higher standard of living than most Jamaicans. Most individuals on this feed have been to both Trinidad and Jamaica and can tell you that Trinidad has more newer cars than Jamaica. For example, in Trinidad in 2021, 11,560 cars were sold, in 2020, 10,122 were sold, in 2019, 14,670 were sold, and in 2018, 13,200 were sold. The reality is, Trinidad has newer cars on the road per population than Jamaica. Specifically, there were 923 Toyota Hilux sold in 2021. Effectively, my advice is for you to stop going to the wrong places in Trinidad b/c I am not sure you believe the nonsense you are saying.
@@yaadmangeneral8326 You obviously don’t know the definition of delusional. That’s someone else’s personal experience not a delusion.
@@shani5345 Mi kno exactly what mi a seh....she say callaloo come from powder! Mi think is di cocaine she a sniff (White powder )that mek she say that....only a delusional person wud seh dat.
Love both islands! Love your analysis and can appreciate your perspective as well. I’d love to taste Doubles. Used to ask my UWI trini classmates to make it and they never did but I hope I’ll get to visit PoS to try it one day. Big up JA n TnT 🇹🇹❤🇯🇲
They say it's a bigger version to our fried dumpling. Dem make doubles ( large fried dumplings with your choice od meat and veggies) in carnation market, early in the mornings for breakfast. Check dem out.
Yohan: We are not in a competition, both islands have their good and bad. I have had this conversation with every Trini I know..
I agree!
Did he say there was a competition?
@@curtd5153 Why is this incessant conversation about which island is better? WTF!
@@johndepass3833 I would direct you to those who thinks that your question is valid and please watch the video again to gather some context. WTF!!!
Ask the students at UWI about how Trinis & Jamaicans get along.
We get along with no problems at all
I'm from Trinidad but I love my Jamaican brothers and sisters
Yeah, it's trini like you that let them diss us for years and never clapped back.
Great take as usual Yohan... The variety of food in Trinidad will make your head spin and the preparations are so much more than Jamaican. Jamaican food is more on a simplicity format that's why it's representated heavily in other countries, becuase it's quick to prepare.
But nothing beats walking on the Brian Lara Promenade in POS with sweet smells of doubles and tons of other delicacies teasing your taste bud is truly amazing.
Kingston have the most variety of food on the island with Indians, Chinese, Halal Islamic, Nigerian, Syrian, American and Cuban foods are representated heavily throughout the city. As far as malls Jamaicans lack the awareness of what a mall supposed to be, so they generally called a shopping center a mall or vice versa.
The Sovereign Center in Liguanea is the only air conditioned enclosure mall in Jamaica and that's tiny in comparison to malls in Trinidad.
They're over fifty ongoing constructions in Kingston where apartments and office buildings are currently being built. Also they're several skyscrapers on deck to break ground in the city too. Also four 28 storey buildings set to break ground in Reading, Saint James in the coming new year.
The logistics hub are currently being worked on, where Jamaica with be the center of shipping in the caribbean. Also oil exploration, as it was recently found to have up to three billion barrels of oil off the south coast in the Walton Basin, United Oil is awaiting a production partner to start production.
Yohan I think doing a weekly Live show would be a great way to further interact with Trinis and Yardys while expounding on culture similarities and current news affecting both islands, what you say about that...🤔
Never heard about the oil in Walton Basin but know about all the other developments, and mostly about the logistics hub with Kingston Harbour being the 7th largest Natural harbours in the world.
My friend Jamaica is a very complex island .. Western Jamaica was made for tourism and that's why it keeps that authentic Caribbean feel Kingston is WAAAAY different from the rest of Jamaica
Jamaica does not have a lot of indoor malls. They do have a lot of shopping centers and outdoor malls. The largest outdoor mall in the English speaking Caribbean is actually in Montego Bay, Jamaica
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I agree with you. Kingston is more developed than the tourist towns. Plus Montego Bay is very very small.
@@mdl9096 Yes sir Jamaica has the third largest oil find in the Caribbean Basin after Venezuela and Guyana.
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I was shocked when I first came back to Kingston, Jamaica after visiting the DR that I realized that downtown JA seems kinda of bare but now hearing what he said about Trinidad confirmed my thoughts. Good video
This man only know about Trinidad I know about my country 🇯🇲👊🏼
I have a cousin married to a Muslim in Trinidad 🇹🇹 and his mother moved there recently living there with them great place 🇯🇲🇹🇹
Nice!
@@YohanPartap Dat Is It 🗣
I am Jamaican and love my patois but I also love the Trinidadian accent. Never tire of listening to it❤❤
🇹🇹🇯🇲🇹🇹🇯🇲🇹🇹🇯🇲🇹🇹🇯🇲🇹🇹🇯🇲🇹🇹🇯🇲🇹🇹❤❤❤❤❤❤❤JAMAICA & trinadad NO PROBLEM MAN
Your presentation was very balanced. I left out Tobago which has beautiful beaches and is a beautiful island which is part of the twin island State of Trinidad and Tobago. There is a reason why Tobago has the distinction of being the most fought over island in the Caribbean by the colonial powers, and changed hands more than any other island. I have never visited Jamaica, but based on what friends have told me, believe Jamaica more beautiful than Trinidad with it's beautiful white sand beaches etc, but Tobago makes up for that if you include it in the discussion. It is one nation so you must include Tobago.
No "welcome back" when you're back home in Trinidad is so true😅! We just go about our day lmao
The two islands are going to work together for development for the whole caribean
There is a synogue in Kingston. You are correct, it is mostly Christian with the different sects. Catholic, Adventist, Jehovah Witness, Baptist, Anglican, etc.
Ai work and lived in trinedad before move to bardos the people are nice have so much to do love it
Thanks for watching!
Food for sure. Trini variety is the best. For breakfast one day then can have a good salt fish buljol with bake the other!
Kingston is rapidly changing give it a few more years might surpass port of Spain. In uptown Kingston its different
I hope it does not go full into skyscaper mode, I look at Port-of-Spain sometimes and thing how much if it is "real". By over developing I feel we lose something.
Never! You guys got to work on your economy first. Paying $ 1000 for a loaf of bread 🍞 won't cut it.
@@YohanPartap living in Toronto can atlest to this
The uptown mall in Kingston is Sovereign Centre in Liguanea. Most Jamaicans are now buying directly online from big name American stores and have their stuff shipped to them. The Jamaican retailers mark ups are too high so customers are cutting out the middle man. Even in America, big box stores like Walmart are closing in some locations in some cities such as Chicago. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
@@misterlexx2721 Jamaicans tend to jump from having no access or very little access to going full fledged ahead of the curve. I remember not having a house phone when i was a kid. to everyone having a cell phone or smart phone over night.
I agree that it is definitely a cultural pride thing here in the US versus it being something on the actual islands. I had the same experience you did going to Jamaica as a Trini! Jamaica is actually one of my favorite places to visit and it is a beautiful island. One take away that you mentioned though is that here in NY we aren’t separated by Brooklyn and Queens alone. There are plenty of Trinis in Brooklyn along with Jamaicans as well, it just depends on what part of Brooklyn you are in. Liberty ave (south richmond area) isnt known specifically for Trini, it is a mixture of Trini and Guyanese Indians (mire guyanese than anything else). Otherwise great video!
Thanks for teh extra context!
As a Jamaican - Canadian Ex-Pat, I'm on my way back to Tobago an Island that I fell in love with. I would love to hear more about it it this channel?
You forgot to mention Tobago it’s more tropical and has beautiful beaches . Both has the best of both worlds
Fairly good and accurate review thanks. Next one touch on education, rate of pregnancy, economics, cleansiness, variety of fruits, transportation etc...
INteresting topics
Your experience in Mobay would be waay different than the corporate area.Kingston is way different from Montego Bay,.Mobay is more relaxed.
Yes, I have been to Kingston and it is faster and corporate, but It does still feel like an island. and that is great, not a bad thing at all.
Nice hearing you talk about this❤! Trinidad as you say, is indeed consumer based as our main resource are natural extracts like gas and oil instead of Tourism. I'd say that Tobago our sister isle is more toursim and laid back compared to Trinidad.
So true!
A new mall called east gates mall just opened right down the road from trincity mall.....it just dont make sense
Tell me about it! Some will point at this and say yes development, but with all what trinidad needs, A new mall is not it.
Agreed literally a stone throw away from trincity 😅
I know, I hear the accent. Smiling! We really are supportive because I live in North America and I love the Caribbean and I want a Caribbean fellow. Not American. LOL!
Great comparison agreed
But how you can leave out Tobago when Trinidad is a twin island state T&T?
Just like how most of his comparisons focused mostly on the tourist side of Jamaica and not places like Kingston and St. Andrew and Mandeville, for example.
Yes, I did leave that out, I don't have that much expreince with Tobago, I actually have more expeince with different parts of Jamaica. Tobago does feel more liek a small islandand that is great, I like the relaxed feel it has. It has alot of the cultural mix of Trinidad but generally it is more hommogenous than Trinidad. Tobago's Tourim product is better developed than Trinidad and they treat everyone very well. although pushy Trinis have been known to annoy them from time to time.
I hope you saw my response to your comment aboive and other replies i made to otehr people, I have been to all those areas you mentioned many times. Developement is a 2 side blade, and I do think we went to far in one dicrection (and contune to go in that direction) in Trinidad. HAve to seen the recent floods in Trinidad? But yet a new mall opens up.
@@YohanPartap it's always so sad when I hear Trinis say they don't know much about Tobago.
Yes it is sad@@ckurzable
Home is where the heart is. Mine jamaica yours Trinidad. Holidays in Trinidad is way more.I hear trinis don’t like Jamaicans but I embrace all people except 😬. ❤️👍. Meaning the criminals 😮
I am not sure i mentioend this before, but when i visit Trinidad, i nteh begining at leat, I feel like a foriegner in my own country, takes some time to adjust. Jamaica is hoem to me, Trinidad is home to me, I love them both.
I'm fr St.Vincent I have alot of friends from Jamaica, Trinidad, Barbados, Guyana and all over and we all get along
Yes!
One more thing . Jamaica as a mega store similar to pricesmart called megamart. Jamaica will have more pricesmarts soon. But they don't need another one as of yet.
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Jamaica has 2 Pricesmarts, Kingston and Portmore. Mega Mart is like the Jamaican Walmart. Pricesmart is really the Costco company in the Caribbean that's rebranded as Pricesmart.
Let me just say that Trinidad and Tobago people love Jamaican culture bad I know because I used to live there and am Jamaican...
Yes, Jamica music espcailly is very popular in Trinidad.
You need to tour uptown Kingston. Kingston Is several times the size of port of spain . And the Kingston Metropolis as a pop of over 1.1 millions almost the same pop as t,&t entire pop. So it's not easy to get to uncover all the diversity in races across Jamaica as you can in Trinidad Jamaica is more than twice the size of Trinidad and tobago combined
Damn! Dude you have the most comments on this video repeating the same talking points 🙄 Trinidad small jamaica large. You seem obsessed.
@@magicmike6129 cry more🤡
Jamaica is larger than T&T but when considering Caribbean Islands which Guyana isn't T&T is almost seven (7) times the size of the next largest English speaking country Dominica. So T&T is a pretty large country for the English speaking Caribbean. Also if you looking at "Caricom" Guyana is almost twenty (20) times the size of Jamaica. So Jamaica is very small compared to Guyana. I'm "Trini" but just giving some context.
Also Kingston takes up a much larger share of Jamaica's population of just under 3 million it takes more than a third of Jamaica's population while Port of Spain takes up a much smaller portion of T&T's 1.4 million with about 100k it takes up 1/14th so it's just that we haven't taken much effort or pride in trying to make Port of Spain "BIG" as you have so much pride in.
@PimpThe478 Yeah, this guy seems to be obsessed with the size of Trinidad 🇹🇹 🙄 that is all he talks about in other videos also.
@@brobro6783 No crying! Kicking
Pure unadulterated facts.
Jamaicans are very protective of the natural environment. It's like most of us we don't want to spoil the natural beauty of the island so most of the countryside is untouched
This guy literally compared rural Jamaica to Port of Spain. Western Jamaica is for tourism, so of course they'll keep that picture perfect Caribbean look.But in Kingston it's different...New Kingston alone has 2 malls.He don't really understand the contrast between urban and rural in Jamaica
I commend you for being brave enough to do this comparison... Lol
Thanks!
lol. i know!
There are lots of malls in Jamaica, have you been to uptown Kingston?! And Jamaican food is unmatched no matter what! Jamaica is just beautiful through and through with all our natural resources. I'm glad you said the music in Trinidad is seasonal, in Jamaica, reggae and dancehall is everyday, everywhere worldwide! And Jamaica is a very mixed countries, we have large numbers of Asians, East Indians, and whites. Some Syrians and Latinos.Trinidad has a large East Indian population, but not a lot of other mixes. Jamaican accent is number 1! Love it❤ Like you said it's worldwide and every other Islands try to mimic jamaicans🇯🇲 You got Europeans and and different races of people trying to copy Jamaicans. There is no comparison, a lot of the hate is from jealousy. We need to accept our differences and just move on with our lives🇯🇲
Thanks for watching and you insight, you would notice I called out my own bias when talking about things that are subjective, food, music etc. Also, I have been to uptown Kingston and yes there are some smaller mall like places but Trinidad has many large indoor shopping centers that I have not seen a comparison to.. BUT! That is not a bad thing! Malls, large modern buildings are not a real indicater of progress, especially on a trocpial island.
As some one who born and grow uptown and has visited Trinidad, I can indeed say they have way better malls, their worst mall makes sovereign or pavilion look like a joke .
Obviously, you are Jamaican and what most individuals don’t like about Jamaicans. This boostful outputting and annoying ways about Jamaica is the best in everything, please get a grip. The truth is, Trinidad is more mixed by percent and by the raw numbers. I am not sure what the hell you are talking about but just read your census……Jamaica is 91% African/black and 0.8% mixed while Trinidad and Tobago is 40% African/black and 18% mixed.
Trinidad is way more diverse! You dead wrong.
@@stillirise7813 Exactly! Obviously, he has never been to Trinidad but we have been to Jamaica and can provide the right context.
I like some of the comparisons. I like that you state that it's your experience.
I agree that the religious diversity is more pronounced too. In Jamaica there is the dictatorship of Christianity.
In terms of food as a vegetarian I will always find a vegetarian meal readily available there.
I like it . I want to go back to Haripitah(sp?)
Hi Yohan thanks for sharing. Love all my caribbean countries.
Love them also!
One difference that you pointed out that I also noticed was the lack of large modern shopping malls in Jamaica. I heard that this was the case from a Jamaican co worker of mine in T&T but saw it for myself when I went there. I don't understand why this is because Jamaica has a big enough population to sustain them.
Triniboy, Jamaica doesn't have money to support large shopping malls, maybe on a small scale. So it has nothing to do with population.
I think Jamaica doesn't have the disposable income to support large malls. The small malls are struggling here. Salaries are not high enough here.
@@kuyahkudey3217 , are you currently living in Jamaica? I just want to know. If so, That would give your comment validity.
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Yes, I live here. Salaries are very low here.
@@kuyahkudey3217, oh, sad to hear. What's the minimum wages like. If you don't mind.
Thank you :) very interesting! :)
🦜🌺🏵 have a good Easter 🌻🌼
Thank you too
I’ma bit disappointed to hear about the consumerism in Trinidad, my great grandmother’s native country. :(
You didn't mention the living conditions in both countries. One of the things that surprises me about Jamaica vs the Caribbean countries are the mansions that are present all over Jamaica.
That’s true what you said about caribbean ppl living abroad they rep hard 🇹🇹🇯🇲🇬🇾🇬🇩🇩🇲🇧🇧🇦🇬🇧🇸🇰🇳🇱🇨
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I live in Miami Florida and have a lot of Jamaicans friends and there's absolutely no rivalry period..i would say since we are guys we do shit talk about each other culture sometimes (jokes of course)..but at the end of the day is all love between us...yes we might be from different Caribbean islands.. but being from the same region technically makes us one ppl and im fine with that 😊
Its a friendly rivalry, I love my Caribbean breathen.
@@YohanPartap same here my brotha 🤜🏾🤛🏿
Very intelligent argument.
Useful information based on your experience 👍 beautiful
Great vid. Respect!
Appreciate it!
Honest and interesting perspective, but I get on real well with other Caribbean Natives here in CT. USA. from a Yardie
Am always watching you please am from Ghana l love Trinidad and Tobago please can you help me information about Trinidad please
Google it
One people.One Caribbean.One love.❤️❤️🇯🇲🇯🇲🇹🇹🇹🇹
One love!
Hail up our brothers and sisters from trinibad , one love 💪🏿✌🏿
Thanks for watching, one love!
In terms of food, from what you say, only Japanese food and creole food and certain types of Indian food, other that, Jamaica has Syrian and Chinese food and Jamaican indigenous food. Roti was common in Jamaica in the 70s as was curry goat feed parties. Things change.
Thanks for your feedback, I said in teh video Trinidad also has Syrain and Chinese food. There are Chinese resturants in most vallages in Trinidad. I know that there is a variety of food in Jamaica, but it seems to be more accessible in Trinidad.
@@YohanPartap I hear you. Things must have changed, as there were tons of Chinese restaurants in the major towns. Downtown Kingston alone had a few on Princess Street, plus the famous ones like Wong Kei, Cathay, Fah Mee, Mee Mee, Golden Bowl, Golden Dragon, Joong Wong, Jade Gardens, etc, etc.
@@YohanPartap Syrian was less but there were a few and Pita Bread aka Syrian Bread was common. What TnT undoubtedly had more of would be Indian restaurants. I recall the Turban on Hagley Pk road, but curry meals were served in Jamaican restaurants.
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The Jamaica black culture is extremely African centric and very dominantly so. It's hard for any other culture to rise up in Jamaica. Maybe the Chinese could . In Kingston they have Chinese cultural facilities . In st Catherine and Manchester they have a few Muslim mosques. There are a few Indian restaurants in the uptown Kingston areas . Kingston as middle eastern restaurants in the uptown areas. They have one called Beirut. Kingston as Thai restaurants and Chinese restaurants all over its just that the other races in Jamaica do not try to establish themselves as a separate culture they all adopt to yhr Jamaican black culture . But you will have to travel Jamaica extensively for like 10 years or more to truly get to truly understand and know the ins and outs of Jamaica.
Chinese and Indians are represented in ALL aspects of Jamaican life - our Deputy Prime Minister is Chinese and several members of government. Indians are represented in government and all aspects of Jamaican life. Sorry that you were called Coolie growing up but I do not believe it was with malice as Chinese were called Mr. Chin and Miss Chin" but they know it is not with malice. There is absolutely no racism in Jamaica and no one is excluded in any way. I grew up around Indians and the entire community went to all their functions; we did NOT see the race of anyone - we were ALL Jamaicans. When you say "rise up' what exactly are you talking about?
@@mdl9096 I'm talking about on the global stage
@@boynton20 Many of our Miss Jamaica and Miss World were Indian background. We have Jamaican singers who are Indians; you should know that a Jamaican is lauded and backed by their Jamaican people no matter their race.
@@mdl9096 not indian you mean black with some Indian mix
@@boynton20 We have another Indian Miss Jamaica 2022.
That relaxed feeling is unemployment.... With these customs duties jamaica is shopping hell... Ive been to trinidad as a child on a cub scout trip.. one of your older kids stepped on my shoe and said "stupid jamaican" and he pushed me... I think he learned that from his parents.. I think there is a section of trinidadians that dont like jamaicans.. You dont meet agressive jamaicans cuz u deh somewhere up town
We have a couple of mosques in Jamaica...I knew of 2 small ones but was surprised last year when I came across a fairly large....keep up the videos...like your opinions
Thanks for sharing
Link me the next time you come back to Kingston so I can show you Jamaica
There is no rival it’s just patriarchy towards one’s island I can say that because here in New York the people from the island and from Africa mostly chill together in high school and if you mess with one you mostly likely will have to talk to another island person.
There is no comparison of mountains in Jam and TnT. Highest point in TnT is 940m, while in Jam, Blue Mtn Peak is 2,256m, so 3084ft compared to 7,402ft. Not even Cuba have a higher peak than Jamaica. In the Caribbean, only Hispaniola have higher peaks than the blue Mountain peak.
I also think you commentary on the verses is fair and balanced yet I was expecting a ripping of Jamaica. I am a patty lover to the core, nothing of that nature can supersede Jamaican patties but I told my Jamaican friend living in Trinidad that I wish to be picked up at Piarco and taken directly to a Doubles stand to have my first taste. I now see through your thought that the rivalry is in the diaspora and not on the island. We are not rivals in music or athletics these are the domain of Jamaica. T&Tis T&T, JA is JA t here's no position to jockey about, you are you and wi a wi.
Love the comparison.I am jam and the comparison just raised my mental clarification for both islands. I think Yohan you have done a great job.
These videos comparing the islands?
Even tho there's only 2 price mart there abt 4 or 4 mega mart and too much chain supermarket to count. Solo bias 🇯🇲🇯🇲 still big up Trini
Yes, I am baised I tried to call it out. My point is, for smaller country, Trinidad has a more commercialised shopping culture, which is not always a good thing.
@@YohanPartap I respect Ur basis
So I’ve noticed in my travels….the language and tonality of “patwa” adds to aggressive nature of our speech. Creole, Spanish and french has those ‘s’, ‘ou’ “ie’ while patwa being very expressive adjectives and nouns. From add H to orange and taking it outta ‘three” . Being blunt and matter of fact loud ass ppl as well doesn’t help. We love our culture and expresses it every chance we get but yes aren’t a monolith… we are many types of ppl….but make up happy or mad….then you tend to see we are the same.
Thnaks for this perspective Dre, We are teh same more than we might even know.
Man ust talk about trini music like it comparable or on the same level as Jamaican music. With the greatest of respect and with no animosity whatsoever, they are not on the same level even remotely. Reggae/dancehall is like literally the most powerful music on the planet. Literally all genres were influenced by it. And it the same thing culturally. Jamaican culture has consistently been recognized as among the most influential on the planet. Jamaica gave the world so many iconic things in that regard. Sports with Usain, music with Bob, culture and panafricanism with Marcus Garvey, not even mention number 1 destination like literally forever and I can go on and on. Respectfully, not saying Jamaica is better but I think you kinda downplayed Jamaica a WHOLE lot.
In the video, you would see that I actually did not compare the music, that is subjective, but i talk but how each island interacts with their music.
I don't think he downplayed the comparison to be honest.
@@jamdawgutube two things can't be true at the same time in this scenario. And I'm sure the things I listed are facts. T&T nowhere has the same footprint that Jamaica has in no area.
@@mefirst902 I usually try to stay away from the petty arguments but here goes. I see u mentioned influence I would advise u to learn ur history. I swear Google is free, reggae is basically a baby compared to calypso. I know yall are proud n push others down to lift urself up but don't be ignorant to the truth and history....without calypso and Lynn taitt there would be no reggea... I said what I said! 🤐
@@lordpain6000 lol
THIS WAS AN UNFAIR COMPARISON.
YOU ACTUALLY COMPARED THE NORTH COAST OF JAMAICA,WHICH IS; BASICALLY RURAL TO THE ENTIRE TNT.
Thanks for your response and if I did not get what i really meant to say out properply. I have been to Kingstoin many times, and other partso f Jamaica, I don't see Jamaica as being rural, not at all. And the comparsion of develeopment is not saying Jamaica is behind, I actually think the opposite. I like that Jamaica has found a way to hold on to the island life and feel that I have grown to love. Yes Trinidad has alot of big malls and such, but to me, that is not a real sign of develpomet and can be a facade, hiding other very serious issues. I did not want to get to political in the video. So having malls and such and trying to look more like US etc, to me is not the way to go all the time, we should try to hold on to what makes us great as Caribbean islands. Hope this help clear up my thoughts.
You are right in alot of what are saying of a surety Trinidad is more development because Trinidad has oil and natural gas , Jamaica just only mostly depends on Tourism, and is also a bigger island by landscape ,and so it will take more revenue for better infrastructure, and is slowly getting there, as it was in the old days, but as a jamaican I love all the caribean countries, because we are similar in somethings but yet unuiqe in the other , also jamaican do not see race as jamaican if you are other than black, whatever ethnic group you are from as long as you a jamaican we see you as just that , but I have friend from Trinidad and love Trinidad ,especially Tobago, which remind me of one particular Parish in Jamaica Portland.
@@christophernelson4824 well if can permit me to say one important differences between both countries
1# both are mixed economies Jamaica has a middle income economy
T&T has a high income economy;Gdp 37 Billion Jamaica ,Gdp 45 Billion T&T
That to say consumerism in Trinidad is very large were once labeled having the most garbage disposal waste in the world per capita ;as result of stable economy for decades mainly because of its petrochemical industry and manufacturing industries but still lack development in certain areas because of mismanagement and corruption
Unfortunately Jamaica doesn't have those luxuries and the IMF death trap didn't make decades of sustainability growth possible until recently
Understanding these main differences doesn't mean one country is better than another its just depends on how one managed their daily life
@@jasonphillips8754 Would be interested to hear your comparison of the current state of both economies and their development trajectory. Jamaica also has a huge underground economy. Some of the biggest mansions in the rural parts of Jamaica are owned by taxi drivers and vendors.
Very well made video. Like and subbed
Much appreciated!
Which food is more popular jamaica R Trinidad
In the UK and USA and Canada it’s definitely Jamaican mainly because of the size of the Jamaican diaspora there.
How do Trinidadians see Venezuela? Do you feel any connection to your neighboring country?
We see Venezuala from teh south coast of Trinidad, I have a video on my channel called Jouney to teh edge of Trinidad or something like that where you actually see it. and Yes, we do have have cuktral connections with our neighbours, Parang Music at Chistmas time and also in our food.
@@YohanPartap There's also a large population of Trinidadians in Venezuela, in fact, Calipso is also a typical musical genre in Venezuela with local adaptations. Now with the Venezuelan crisis there are also many Venezuelans living in Trinidad.
I don't really live that close to the border between the two countries because I'm from Paraguaná, a peninsula located in the northwest of Venezuela, surrounded by the Caribbean Sea and right next to Aruba (Dutch Kingdom). Interestingly, here we have a very famous local dish, the curry goat that was brought from Trinidad to Paraguaná (Venezuela) a long time ago.
Trinidadians feel a close connection to Venezuelans food culture etc. At the same time a connection with other Caribbean countries do exist.
I have never had a problem shopping in our plaza, i can buy everything that we want, i guess we like the plaza feeling , the mall Vybz you mention there is on in portmore call portmore mall, as for food, we have so many variety, it maybe not at one spot like you mentioned but if you drive around it's there, Jamaican are too stubborn in most instances to accept probably many many cuisines but i have had japanese, Chinese , indians there, i think it would be nice to have a Trini restaurant there as well
Jamaica has evrything I need, and food wish, it has verify, just more accessible in Trinidad. There is a Trinidad resturant in kingston
T&T has prettier women and better food. JA has better music and more iconic citizens imo as an East African.
Check to see the number of Miss Worlds Jamaica has had. Can't speak to the food because there was no Trinidadian restaurant in Jamaica when I was living there, so I have never eaten Trinidadian food. Anyway, I am looking forward to trying the food because I understand that there are a few Trinidadian restaurants now. But maybe I should visit TT for the authentic experience.
@@mdl9096 coming with the facts…I like that. Your rebuttal seems sound. I’ll take your word for it. JA gotta learn to leave some attributes on the plate for others.Ball hogging them blessings 😅
@@deeqahmed2291Don't forget that Trinidad has Calypso carnival locked. OK. I will tell the new crop of sprinters to slow down a bit. That is the best that I can do for you 😃
@@mdl9096 thanks my brotha 👊🏾. Much appreciated 😂
@@mdl9096 lol
Well, I’ve seen time and time again on the internet, things to do with Jamaica - negative or (desirable) comments from Trinidadians. ‘JA oxoxo is zzzzz.’
‘In T&T ours is %%%%.’
The recent carnival in JA is one of several examples,
What do I mean by desirable:
if a certain Famous Person visitJamaica, you can guarantee... a... ‘you must come to T&T.’ ‘we got xxxxx in T&T, it’s like xxxxx in T&T.’
Rarely, do you get such response from other Islands. So rare that such response from another Island is highly appreciative when it happens. Just saying. 🌞🇯🇲😍🇹🇹