"Do. Or do not. There is no try" - Yoda. ||| "There are no accidents" - Master Oogway ||| "Action is eloquence." - William Shakespeare "If you use your head, you won’t get fat even if you eat sweets." - L Lawliet
I'm stuck in an unhealthy mindset where if I'm not doing a study then I'm not learning anything (and therefore no point in doing it), and it would absolutely suck all the fun out of art. So thank you so much for this! Practice is practice no matter if it's a study or something you're just creating for fun.
Exactly! I’ve been the same way, and as a result I have not nearly learned as much as I could have. I know people want to pursue art professionally and be the best they can, but I think one of the main aspects of art is that you have fun. You have fun, you draw a lot and I guarantee you’ll improve. 😅
I think there is a mindset where if you're not making masterpieces every single day then you're not doing the work. I had to allow myself to make bad drawings and not try and perform. But just fall in love with drawing again. I ended up making some of my best paintings out of this. Because I wasn't concerned with it needing to be my art heroes. I was just doing my best to make art that meant something to me. Still using the skills and training that I had to best convey those images but remembering that art is in fact about the artist trying to communicate something in their soul. I know we have a tendency in the commercial art world to denigrate self expression and focus on craft. Which is good. But I think in our discipline and mastery I do think we forget that art really at its heart is about communicating the heart.
Congrats 🎉🍾🎊 I’m planning to start getting me a iPad to start drawing and be using procreate and photoshop I’m super excited keep on going day 270 heading up and up. Cant wait what us artist has stored for us.
Never have I ever.. though about practice this way. I've been learning art for the past 4 years and I that time I've become a big learner of things in general, looking into the philosophy of what makes art good and what makes good practice to get to that level. Unfortunately I've also found out what has led to my hindrance all this time.... MY INABILITY TO FORGIVE MYSELF FOR FAILURE. This I noticed when I decided to start learning Japanese for real. I've let myself fail to read and write words countless times but I never doubt the progress and I never try to rush myself doing it. I simply trust that at some point I'll be able to read and write to a level where others can understand me. Being able to let go of the desire to become good RIGHT NOW is what I'm going to have to struggle with but it's one I believe (like all things) I CAN LEARN TO OVERCOME
Literally everything is practice, that's what life is about haha. To turn yourself into the most magnificent human being. This extends the borders of art as well of course. We're here in time to live, not to perfect.
When talking about visual art like drawing, painting, photography, etc, I think the performance and the actuualy ART in it is on the proccess of doing. Not the final product. It's not called "art piece" if it wasn't just a piece from the art. That's why I don't use the therm "AI ART" but "AI images". because the ART is within the process, the artistic expression and design decisions the artist use on every stroke from the piece is where the real artistic sense lay. That's why I love so much watching people drawing on youtube more than just art profiles with finished works. Watching the decision that the artist make on every situation, the solutions they find to solve the problems of ilustrating some diferent pose, a dynamic scene, contrast, composition and colors, that's fulfilling. btw love your chanel, Josh! Hope you're happy and thanks for always sharing your vision here! You a really great artist and seem to be a realy kind person. Thanks for taking hours of your day to bring such a nice content for uus. Wish you the best! Huugs from a brazilian fan and admirer!
I genuinely believe everyone CAN become an artist. But not everyone WILL become an artist, because like you said, not everyone will find the world and its inhabitants and its stories as captivating as we artist do. Not everyone has the innate desire to explore and learn that we do, nor the resilience to make mistakes, learn from them and try again over and over and over again. That's the advantage I believe people call "talent". While the skill itself can be acquired and even mastered by anyone that invests the years it take into learning and practice, only a handful get to that level and it's usually the ones with that innate desire.
I sat at my desk honestly contemplating why I'm practicing art to begin with when it takes me 10 hours just to make the right sketch I want to paint when I decided to watch this video. The message was necessary, and I'm in a much better headspace now because of it. Thank you.
This is the best explaining of studying-training-practise I've ever heard! Now I understand that I am stuck in training stage and almost never practising. And the drawing is absolutely stunning!! ❤️
I’ve been practicing every day since February. Started by just drawing characters I like, now I’m focused on learning individual parts of anatomy. Specifically the face, but I feel like I haven’t made much progress at all. Any ideas?
Sometimes you may feel like you aren't making any progress at all...but you are. Many artists including myself have experienced profound "growth spurts" where it feels like we leveled up overnight, but it's really because of all the hard work we put in prior. Sometimes it just takes awhile for it all to click. You don't need to search for it, it will come.
It's kinda reassuring, I always agonized over not doing studying and never understanding how to do so "properly". It's nice to feel like... drawing the way I do *is* studying, just not so traditional way others perceive. I guess.
other people: "omg u can draw so well, u are so talented!" me: it's not a talent to know how to draw. the only talent i have is loving to draw and not giving up no matter how hard it gets. love that quote from 15:41
I definitely think that performance for me is making the artwork from start to finish, before I post it. that's where the enjoyment comes from for me. its also the practice part, even when I do fully completed artwork I take it sometimes as valuable, or more valuable even, then doing a study per se. it helps me be more comitted to finishing things and having a good body of work. studying and practicing is important but I never forget that even if I'm not doing that, that does not mean I'm not improving. always great to hear you thoughts Josh! they're very comforting and hopeful. keep up the good work!
The performance for me as someone who does art and has performed in choir, guitar, and piano. Is seeing the encore after, and the engagement and discussions I get after more then the actual thing I had just done. Its what has kept me the most motivated when practicing and training.
I'm currently working on a graphic novel; a historical fiction based in an over looked time in history. When people ask me how long I've been working on it, its difficult to answer. There were the years of playing around with the idea, the years of (study) research, (practice) and refining the designs, and then the (very recent) decision to commit to finishing this project as a graphic novel. The performance has really been taking an audience along with me on this journey towards completion, not the final product.
Call me weird, but I have more success drawing “full” pieces than I have with individual studies . I just don’t have the motivation or time to just draw sketches all the time. Opinions?
15:32 I agree with you here Josh. And I do think that this is one of the performances that both digital and traditional art can do. For someone to find that captivating Beauty in the artwork and then Express that discovery in what ever way they know how to (ei "Ooo" "Ah" "Oh that's cool" or even a nice comment on the socials) even if it's not the "most desired discovery" if that makes sense.
If it is all practice, then none of it is meant to be perfect. Knowing that there is meant to be a flaw, that it is all just part of growing, at least for me, has lifted some of the weight that chasing perfection has put on my shoulders. It's still difficult, and there are days, weeks and months where I can't bring myself to draw, let alone deem a drawing as 'finished'. I don't finish things anymore, and even on the rare occasions that I do, more often than not I hate the end product because it was so much better at the incomplete stage where I deemed its imperfections as allowable than it is now in the finished stage where all faults are glaring and no longer permissible in my eyes. It's all practice to me, because if it wasn't then I'd never be able to pick up the pen again.
The performance imo can be: 1) the act of expressing your concept or emotion that’s in your head 2) performance in public: display, explain the process and meaning of a piece A good question
I took a second to get the various aspects of practice down after the video but I love it. I've always found that studying is better when you aren't working on something at the same time as you're studying. A good example for me is watching Pixar movies as I am learning 3D animation but I'm not trying to replicate certain scenes or frames as I'm watching them if that makes sense. Doing that after watching the movie might be practice. Taking the lighting, layout, and maybe even some props and creating the scene, not as exact to thr frame, but close. That's been one of my approaches to practice this year for me. The next practice for me here would be recreating a scene in Across the spiderverse to see how I can do.
I honestly feel like everything is practice and everything is performance when it comes to drawing. Even if it doesn’t seem that way, everytime you draw is a performance of your growth of skill to yourself and I know many others, myself included will continue to criticize our art as a “performance”
3 reasons for which artist suck and are stuck in the "I'm not good enough" state, always struggling to get better and chasing that artist that is their epitome of awesome. (1) low self-esteem in general. If they would raise their confidence in other areas of life, it would also affect their performance in their drawing / craft. (2) comparison and always being distracted by what others are doing. This is also a distorted view of how awesome someone is because of that low self-esteem from point (1) making you easily idolize others. It is impossible for you to tap into your own Genius (yes, everyone has that) as long as you are mesmerized by others' and trying to replicate this or that skill, instead of reaching within and being able to Express in a way ONLY You can do. (3) doing artwork that is "good enough" while excusing themselves that "they need more practice". The benchmark that they have in their mind is to reach a certain 'quality' that they have read about in forums or social media comments or wherever, instead of them being completely in love with what they create. It's technical and mechanical instead of enjoyable. This makes one not fully partake in the process, which obviously affects the performance, and constantly finishing a piece with a taste of dissatisfaction (which obviously fuels the whole cycle of low self-esteem at (1), comparison at (2) and so on). . To finish on a quick tip: if you don't like a project you're working on, it's not necessarily the project that is the problem, but your approach to it. Change something, What about it would make you excited? How are you forcing yourself into a process you dislike ....what about it do you dislike? There is a reason why you find yourself on that project, so find that thing within it that speaks to You. ;)
Love the video. I felt like I was stuck in a rut with practicing. But this provided me great inspiration to keep drawing! Ps, can I buy that elf girl artwork. I love the pose and character you designed!
Funny, I would give the exact opposite advice. This is quite the confusingly paradoxical topic (uh, juicy), yet here's what I have to say about it. . It's quite interesting that, people would prioritize practice because of the freedom of drawing without the attachment to a goal, as when drawing on a specific project. HOWEVER, when you study, train and practice it is in fact when you are attached to the goal of "getting better". The Performance is THE act of Expressing Self, which in a way does include all of the previous 3 steps, as you named them, but as a natural part of the process, not as a filler act in a mechanical preparation for the "real deal". Is practice what you really want? No, it's the pressure free drawing, but with the quality of the "real deal" - ha ha. And THAT is the Performance. One reason for which the performance part is limiting and stressing and pressure inducing for most is because You. Take. On. Projects. You. Don't. Actually. Enjoy. (for whichever reasons of obligation or perceived need). The other reason for which artists think they prefer practice is because they have NO ownership over the mastery of their skill and aptitude (at their current level, whichever that is), so they can't hold the Tension of a complete Creation piece, and it's easier to excuse one's lack of confidence with "it's just practice". . Performance is the beautifully Free act of showcasing one's Self, the epitome of Creating within that moment in time, the Expressing of the current You. Approaching everything that you do with the grace and honoring of it BEing a Performance of Self, not with the limitations of a goal, but rather the pure intrigue for discovery of this new You that emerges from your interaction with the current Creation, will unlock skills you never thought you had - without training them, will open you up to challenges you didn't even know you wanted - without the study time, will make you accomplish results that go beyond what you could have initially foreseen - without the separate practice efforts.
Yo, just out of curiosity can u try draw a girl that’s mad at you or sad or smth, cuz your poses are amazing, but all the personality is erased by the smile
"Do. Or do not. There is no try" - Yoda. ||| "There are no accidents" - Master Oogway ||| "Action is eloquence." - William Shakespeare
"If you use your head, you won’t get fat even if you eat sweets." - L Lawliet
i love how most of these are from fictional characters written by authors and then theres shakespeare
Please tell me, where your twitch channel is??? So wanna follow and get advice
I'm stuck in an unhealthy mindset where if I'm not doing a study then I'm not learning anything (and therefore no point in doing it), and it would absolutely suck all the fun out of art. So thank you so much for this! Practice is practice no matter if it's a study or something you're just creating for fun.
Exactly! I’ve been the same way, and as a result I have not nearly learned as much as I could have. I know people want to pursue art professionally and be the best they can, but I think one of the main aspects of art is that you have fun. You have fun, you draw a lot and I guarantee you’ll improve. 😅
I think there is a mindset where if you're not making masterpieces every single day then you're not doing the work. I had to allow myself to make bad drawings and not try and perform. But just fall in love with drawing again. I ended up making some of my best paintings out of this. Because I wasn't concerned with it needing to be my art heroes. I was just doing my best to make art that meant something to me. Still using the skills and training that I had to best convey those images but remembering that art is in fact about the artist trying to communicate something in their soul. I know we have a tendency in the commercial art world to denigrate self expression and focus on craft. Which is good. But I think in our discipline and mastery I do think we forget that art really at its heart is about communicating the heart.
Been drawing everyday in Procreate since October 5th. Currently on Day 270. 😎
I've seen the light and I'm not planning on stopping.
VICTORY SCREECH!! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
How did you find the motivation, my friend¿
My broda on the grind
drawing since 2023 September. Not planning to stop.
Congrats 🎉🍾🎊 I’m planning to start getting me a iPad to start drawing and be using procreate and photoshop I’m super excited keep on going day 270 heading up and up. Cant wait what us artist has stored for us.
Never have I ever..
though about practice this way. I've been learning art for the past 4 years and I that time I've become a big learner of things in general, looking into the philosophy of what makes art good and what makes good practice to get to that level.
Unfortunately I've also found out what has led to my hindrance all this time....
MY INABILITY TO FORGIVE MYSELF FOR FAILURE.
This I noticed when I decided to start learning Japanese for real. I've let myself fail to read and write words countless times but I never doubt the progress and I never try to rush myself doing it. I simply trust that at some point I'll be able to read and write to a level where others can understand me.
Being able to let go of the desire to become good RIGHT NOW is what I'm going to have to struggle with but it's one I believe (like all things) I CAN LEARN TO OVERCOME
I'm so happy for you. Forgiving yourself is the biggest release I think one can experience in a single lifetime. There is so much ahead of you.
Thank You.
Literally everything is practice, that's what life is about haha. To turn yourself into the most magnificent human being.
This extends the borders of art as well of course. We're here in time to live, not to perfect.
When talking about visual art like drawing, painting, photography, etc, I think the performance and the actuualy ART in it is on the proccess of doing. Not the final product. It's not called "art piece" if it wasn't just a piece from the art.
That's why I don't use the therm "AI ART" but "AI images". because the ART is within the process, the artistic expression and design decisions the artist use on every stroke from the piece is where the real artistic sense lay.
That's why I love so much watching people drawing on youtube more than just art profiles with finished works.
Watching the decision that the artist make on every situation, the solutions they find to solve the problems of ilustrating some diferent pose, a dynamic scene, contrast, composition and colors, that's fulfilling.
btw love your chanel, Josh! Hope you're happy and thanks for always sharing your vision here! You a really great artist and seem to be a realy kind person. Thanks for taking hours of your day to bring such a nice content for uus.
Wish you the best! Huugs from a brazilian fan and admirer!
I genuinely believe everyone CAN become an artist. But not everyone WILL become an artist, because like you said, not everyone will find the world and its inhabitants and its stories as captivating as we artist do. Not everyone has the innate desire to explore and learn that we do, nor the resilience to make mistakes, learn from them and try again over and over and over again. That's the advantage I believe people call "talent". While the skill itself can be acquired and even mastered by anyone that invests the years it take into learning and practice, only a handful get to that level and it's usually the ones with that innate desire.
Its sad cause i want to have that desire, i feel like i have a little of it in me, i just dont know how or when im gonna make it grow
Already w the mindset love to see someone else agreeing w me
I sat at my desk honestly contemplating why I'm practicing art to begin with when it takes me 10 hours just to make the right sketch I want to paint when I decided to watch this video. The message was necessary, and I'm in a much better headspace now because of it. Thank you.
This is the best explaining of studying-training-practise I've ever heard! Now I understand that I am stuck in training stage and almost never practising. And the drawing is absolutely stunning!! ❤️
I’ve been practicing every day since February. Started by just drawing characters I like, now I’m focused on learning individual parts of anatomy. Specifically the face, but I feel like I haven’t made much progress at all. Any ideas?
Sometimes you may feel like you aren't making any progress at all...but you are. Many artists including myself have experienced profound "growth spurts" where it feels like we leveled up overnight, but it's really because of all the hard work we put in prior. Sometimes it just takes awhile for it all to click. You don't need to search for it, it will come.
It's kinda reassuring, I always agonized over not doing studying and never understanding how to do so "properly". It's nice to feel like... drawing the way I do *is* studying, just not so traditional way others perceive. I guess.
other people: "omg u can draw so well, u are so talented!"
me: it's not a talent to know how to draw. the only talent i have is loving to draw and not giving up no matter how hard it gets.
love that quote from 15:41
I definitely think that performance for me is making the artwork from start to finish, before I post it. that's where the enjoyment comes from for me. its also the practice part, even when I do fully completed artwork I take it sometimes as valuable, or more valuable even, then doing a study per se. it helps me be more comitted to finishing things and having a good body of work. studying and practicing is important but I never forget that even if I'm not doing that, that does not mean I'm not improving. always great to hear you thoughts Josh! they're very comforting and hopeful. keep up the good work!
The performance for me as someone who does art and has performed in choir, guitar, and piano. Is seeing the encore after, and the engagement and discussions I get after more then the actual thing I had just done. Its what has kept me the most motivated when practicing and training.
I'm currently working on a graphic novel; a historical fiction based in an over looked time in history. When people ask me how long I've been working on it, its difficult to answer. There were the years of playing around with the idea, the years of (study) research, (practice) and refining the designs, and then the (very recent) decision to commit to finishing this project as a graphic novel. The performance has really been taking an audience along with me on this journey towards completion, not the final product.
Call me weird, but I have more success drawing “full” pieces than I have with individual studies . I just don’t have the motivation or time to just draw sketches all the time. Opinions?
Long time artist.... but watch helps my brain began to simplify things again. After so long... Great video
15:32 I agree with you here Josh. And I do think that this is one of the performances that both digital and traditional art can do.
For someone to find that captivating Beauty in the artwork and then Express that discovery in what ever way they know how to (ei "Ooo" "Ah" "Oh that's cool" or even a nice comment on the socials) even if it's not the "most desired discovery" if that makes sense.
If it is all practice, then none of it is meant to be perfect. Knowing that there is meant to be a flaw, that it is all just part of growing, at least for me, has lifted some of the weight that chasing perfection has put on my shoulders. It's still difficult, and there are days, weeks and months where I can't bring myself to draw, let alone deem a drawing as 'finished'. I don't finish things anymore, and even on the rare occasions that I do, more often than not I hate the end product because it was so much better at the incomplete stage where I deemed its imperfections as allowable than it is now in the finished stage where all faults are glaring and no longer permissible in my eyes.
It's all practice to me, because if it wasn't then I'd never be able to pick up the pen again.
"none of it is meant to be perfect." yesss
For me the performance is when you share your passion with people who are interested in you and your story
The performance imo can be:
1) the act of expressing your concept or emotion that’s in your head
2) performance in public: display, explain the process and meaning of a piece
A good question
I took a second to get the various aspects of practice down after the video but I love it.
I've always found that studying is better when you aren't working on something at the same time as you're studying. A good example for me is watching Pixar movies as I am learning 3D animation but I'm not trying to replicate certain scenes or frames as I'm watching them if that makes sense.
Doing that after watching the movie might be practice. Taking the lighting, layout, and maybe even some props and creating the scene, not as exact to thr frame, but close. That's been one of my approaches to practice this year for me.
The next practice for me here would be recreating a scene in Across the spiderverse to see how I can do.
your art style is so cool though ❤
I honestly feel like everything is practice and everything is performance when it comes to drawing. Even if it doesn’t seem that way, everytime you draw is a performance of your growth of skill to yourself and I know many others, myself included will continue to criticize our art as a “performance”
3 reasons for which artist suck and are stuck in the "I'm not good enough" state, always struggling to get better and chasing that artist that is their epitome of awesome.
(1) low self-esteem in general. If they would raise their confidence in other areas of life, it would also affect their performance in their drawing / craft.
(2) comparison and always being distracted by what others are doing. This is also a distorted view of how awesome someone is because of that low self-esteem from point (1) making you easily idolize others. It is impossible for you to tap into your own Genius (yes, everyone has that) as long as you are mesmerized by others' and trying to replicate this or that skill, instead of reaching within and being able to Express in a way ONLY You can do.
(3) doing artwork that is "good enough" while excusing themselves that "they need more practice". The benchmark that they have in their mind is to reach a certain 'quality' that they have read about in forums or social media comments or wherever, instead of them being completely in love with what they create. It's technical and mechanical instead of enjoyable. This makes one not fully partake in the process, which obviously affects the performance, and constantly finishing a piece with a taste of dissatisfaction (which obviously fuels the whole cycle of low self-esteem at (1), comparison at (2) and so on).
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To finish on a quick tip: if you don't like a project you're working on, it's not necessarily the project that is the problem, but your approach to it. Change something, What about it would make you excited? How are you forcing yourself into a process you dislike ....what about it do you dislike? There is a reason why you find yourself on that project, so find that thing within it that speaks to You. ;)
this is amazing work, and an interesting way to look at creating
Love the video. I felt like I was stuck in a rut with practicing. But this provided me great inspiration to keep drawing!
Ps, can I buy that elf girl artwork. I love the pose and character you designed!
Thank you sm! And soon!
@@ergojosh Hell yeah brother. Thank you for your input into your drawing process. It's certainly eye opening!
i love how i found your cara first
i think the "Performance" for me atleast is how our art/legacy affects everyone and everything beyond our lifetime
Funny, I would give the exact opposite advice. This is quite the confusingly paradoxical topic (uh, juicy), yet here's what I have to say about it.
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It's quite interesting that, people would prioritize practice because of the freedom of drawing without the attachment to a goal, as when drawing on a specific project. HOWEVER, when you study, train and practice it is in fact when you are attached to the goal of "getting better". The Performance is THE act of Expressing Self, which in a way does include all of the previous 3 steps, as you named them, but as a natural part of the process, not as a filler act in a mechanical preparation for the "real deal".
Is practice what you really want?
No, it's the pressure free drawing, but with the quality of the "real deal" - ha ha. And THAT is the Performance.
One reason for which the performance part is limiting and stressing and pressure inducing for most is because You. Take. On. Projects. You. Don't. Actually. Enjoy. (for whichever reasons of obligation or perceived need). The other reason for which artists think they prefer practice is because they have NO ownership over the mastery of their skill and aptitude (at their current level, whichever that is), so they can't hold the Tension of a complete Creation piece, and it's easier to excuse one's lack of confidence with "it's just practice".
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Performance is the beautifully Free act of showcasing one's Self, the epitome of Creating within that moment in time, the Expressing of the current You.
Approaching everything that you do with the grace and honoring of it BEing a Performance of Self, not with the limitations of a goal, but rather the pure intrigue for discovery of this new You that emerges from your interaction with the current Creation, will unlock skills you never thought you had - without training them, will open you up to challenges you didn't even know you wanted - without the study time, will make you accomplish results that go beyond what you could have initially foreseen - without the separate practice efforts.
Is that a Sketchboard Pro 2?
Practice will almost make better eventually. Perfect is a quagmire bog swamp thing vampire of spirit.
Side thought: do find yourself using a drawing glove anymore? Or feel like it is/not necessary at this point?
Me still trying to figure out a good brush to draw with and understand layers
love your video
thank you sm for this
You're watching Fire Force while drawing? :)))) Which one are you actually paying attention to?
Buy Ipad Pro M4 13 inch and review it please.
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How do you make your voice sound so creamy?!!😂😂😂
Am i tripping, or does josh not sound right?
incredible work. free palestine
🥳🎉🎂
Yo, just out of curiosity can u try draw a girl that’s mad at you or sad or smth, cuz your poses are amazing, but all the personality is erased by the smile
Nvm