Ace Attorney- Spirit of Justice (45) U.N. Owen was Her
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I *love* the build-up to Owen, where he staggers up to the witness stand in a kinda creepy way, and slowly lifts up his head... and then any notion of Owen being the killer goes out the window when we see that sad yet adorable face!
Goes from "It'll Probably Be Mean" to "Sweet Little Bean" just like that. Love the subversion.
I also liked the detail that as Uendo slips unconscious, a fan falls out for each personality lost.
It's great because the game does a great job of making Owen seem like the killer. I'm sure many players (myself included) saw this scene and thought "now where do we go?"
It's been speculated that Uendo, Patches, and Kisegawa aren't actually that lightweight, rather that the taste of alcohol is a black-out trigger for them due to some kind of past trauma, as is common with people who have DID
I do like that the importance of Uendo's hair in determining which of the personalities is in control is still prominent in the transition to Owen. When the other three personalities got drunk, the fans holding together the ponytail fell out one by one as each of the other three personalities lost consciousness before becoming completely undone for Owen's position. It's been a great attention to detail.
Another fun detail - Uendo has four fans in total! Three in his hair, and the one he uses as a prop!
Uendo's DID is why I really like the case, nobody treats him or his headmates like an insane person or makes shitty jokes about it; and of course, twisting the old tired trope of "scary secret personality" into an innocent child who witnessed something scary is the best way to kill the rest of the "crazy person with multiple personalities is the killer" stories
I don't have DID but a few of my friends do, and yeah some headmates can have perceived younger ages; it's really good how a lot of what's showcased here is more or less accurate, i wonder if one of the writers had a friend like that and wanted to showcase a more accurate portrayal
Who would’ve guessed that Ace Attorney, the franchise that thrives on eccentric characters and dramatic twists would genuinely have one of the most accurate depictions of Dissociative Identity Disorder in fiction?
Child Alters (at least from what I’ve read), are one of the most common types of identities you may see in someone with DID. And Owen is a spot-on depiction of that. Way more accurate than an Hidden Evil Mastermind would be, at least.
Kudos to the writers for ACTUALLY doing their research and writing Uendo with the true aspects of DID in mind, rather than embellishing it for the sake of the drama. Makes someone as wacky as Uendo feel pretty grounded.
I also read (just read), that the other alters tend to be very protective of an original child alter.
And my theory assomeone uninformed in psychology is, that Owen developed DID as a child as some sort of self protection against... trauma or abuse. And that his biggest joy an hobby was rakugo, because the 3 developed alters all seem to be some sort of a rakugo character stereotype (the straight man, the happy pun-throwing jester and the tough no-nonsense girl).
@@TheMaleLynn and it does seem implied that uendo is treated like a surrogate child by toneido. t spossible toneido rescued Owen from a terrible homelife...
If they can do it for Athena, who is a main character, they can do it for anyone.
23:04 The impact of Simon's motivational words are enhanced so much by the uniqueness of him shaking Athena in a first person perspective for the player.
Owen being a child has to be a great twist.
Also Uendo being a lightweight when it comes to alcohol is also really funny, especially when he flips between his personalities. Also yes it is possible in DID for one of the personalities to be younger than the others.
big whiplash when your big suspect turns out to be an eight year old.
EDIT: Sorry, 5 years old. I misremembered.
@@kay_faraday He said he was five years old but the point stands.
@@morgancrabtree6248 yeah it's been a while since i played the case and I misremembered
Uendo being a lightweight when it comes to alcohol is theorized to be because alcohol was involved in the trauma that caused the DID system to appear. This would explain why Owen isn't drunk himself despite him inhabiting the same alcohol consuming system as the other 3 alters we've seen. A theory that does diminish the funny factor by a bit.
@@Mathamus1 i've also heard people say he's 5 because of that being the age the trauma happened at, as well as people thinking he may have been the "original" (note quotation marks) personality.
It's hilarious how Athena entered this sequence where she keeps digging up evidence that progressively makes Bucky look worse and worse.
"Owen might have done it" uhhhh oops, Owen is just a child.
"The killer had a cut on his head" big oops, Bucky has a cut on his head.
"The killer used soba dough to asphyxiate the victim and then turned it into noodles" massive oops, only Bucky knows how to do that.
And now we leave off on the cliffhanger of "Owen saw the killer's face".
Will this be what turns it around or will this be a monstrous "OOPS"?
23:08 This was a jump scare for me when I first saw it, and yes, Simon is shaking his sister figure by the collar just to get ahold of herself showing he’s perfectly willing to snap Athena back to reality. This is why I love Blackquill so much, he’s the Godot of the Apollo Trilogy.
This is why Uendo is my favorite witness on the stand. His gimmick and his fourth personality really make this case fun. He and Simon, mostly the former, are definitely carrying this case.
"unfortunately for you, I spy nothing of the sort" well that's just skill issue nahyuta
14:19 Once again, rather than “sadness” or “fear,” this mood matrix color signifies “distress.”
According to Lucah, cross-examining a parrot is one thing, but killing a man with soba dough is somehow a bridge too far.
to ebe fair its probablythe silelst cause of death so far in terms of how it sounds hearing it
3:35 Hell yeah, that is my favorite twist of this case! Mostly because of that masterful subversion of expectations.
I guess most players at this part expected this 'Owen' to be some part of confrontational ruffian. Like Wocky Kitaki or Furio Tigre.
For once because the other personalities wanted to hide him that much, making it seem like they thought he actually did it.
But also, because it would be the usual trope of a 'hidden different personality' in stories: An evil ,dangerous counterpart (Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde for example)
And the writers play into it, in how he slowly rises up from the whitness stand (2:48), hands pinching into the wood, ready to angrily lash out against everyone (2:53).... just to slump down to this small harmless frame and revealing a cute, meek face (2:58). And that he is a 5year old boy! Catching everyone by surprise.
Gotcha good!^^
They probably just wanted to keep that little alter safe since he’s so young. It’s kinda sweet!
23:04 Seeing Simon shaking Athena, in first person no less, is probably one of my favorite moments in this series! And it’s from a filler case!
Nahyuta’s “Let it go, and move on” counter: 3
Total: 19
Don’t forget to show your badge to everyone, and check their profiles often.
Ace Attorney: Now with stunning shaking camera in first person!
Straddle? They’re both standing, so I think he just grabbed her collar and shook her a little.
@@pokechatter Thanks. I adjusted accordingly.
The moment where Simon grabs Athena and shakes her stood out to me in this case for more than just the immedieate problem of her losing her resolve. If you think about it, Simon spent YEARS in prison faced with the death penalty for a crime he didn't committ, with a lot of circumstantial evidence against him. Bucky is in the same situation right now, with no one in his court but Athena. Athena spent her childhood trying to overcome her trauma to come to Simon's defense as a defense attourney, I'd imagine Simon would take it a bit personal when Athena lets her faith waiver over a handful of convenient details.
If she could defend him against all odds, she should not be so weak as to risk leaving Bucky to take the fall. Of course he has to be tsundere about it, but Simon knows that Athena can do better.
That's an incredible way to look at it that I never would've thought of.
I love that scene of Blackquill grabbing Athena like that, trying to help her snap out of it, and being a great figurative big brother. It was truly sweet.
Simon getting in Athena's face and getting her back on the right track is another highlight of this case
its very unlikely for owen to be faking since all signs point tohim not sharing memories with the other personalities, he wouldn't be able to concoct an elborate lie let alone fake a whole persona of a five year old
also this is the OTHER reason Uendo's cnsidered good system rep: they actively subvert the shitty cliche of the 'evil split personality' trope by shwig that uendo not only ISN'T evil but isn't even an ADULT
Simon can shake me up like that anytime
So now we finally get to meet Owen, after all this buildup of him being the potential true culprit…and he’s only 5 years old. I don’t think anyone saw that coming. Having to get testimony from such a young witness who saw something so horrible is delicate business, but going back again to the question of what Uendo went through to develop DID, if Owen is only 5, then hoo boy…
And things aren’t looking better for Bucky, either, with the new information that Taifu’s killer was bleeding from a cut on their head. Good timing, and rather surprising in how suddenly it came, on Simon’s part giving Athena a ‘pull yourself together’ speech. Simon may be brusque in his demeanor, but he cares about the people who matter most to him, and doesn’t want Athena to lose faith in Bucky.
For those that don't know Owen is an alter usually called a "little" they're typically the age or ages around when the trauma causing DID is most concurrent however it's not exclusively centered on it which would explain the need to hide Owen's existence as a fourth alter
Owen is precious, we must protect him at all costs.
The murder weapon being a big glob of dough kinda reminds me of Roald Dahl's short story "Lamb to the Slaughter," where a woman murders her husband with a large frozen leg of lamb, then cooks up an alibi and the lamb, listening in on the cops she called over talking about the importance of finding the murder weapon, while also, in a case of dramatic irony, eating the very clue they're talking about.
That was Roald Dahl? I've seen that story in comic-puzzle form but that's one of the stories I never read. That's neat!
That was Roald Dahl? Just reading your description, I remember an episode of Alfred Hitchcock that is exact same premise. Not too surprised it came from an actual story; more surprised it's from Roald Dahl.
Once again, it’s the case where everyone consumes alcohol in court!
The touhou reference in the title is the best thing in this whole series
Which in turn is an Agatha Christie reference :D
@@myboatforacar that is so true 😂😂
Lucah's experience with Japanese dining really coming in clutch in this case, especially when that's the part that trips people up the most. :D
23:00 THIS MOMENT RIGHT HERE is where Blackquill overthrew Fransizka von Karma has my top prosecutor for the LONGEST TIME!
I got the title, it's a Touhou reference! Nice!
When I got to this part, I was dreading of Owen because of the build up and assumed that he was the killer. I thought that he was going to be a big and scary witness, then I literally squeed when it turned out he's a little kid who saw a terrible crime.
Also, Simon getting up to Athena's face was a bit of a jumpscare, especially if you're playing it on the 3DS version. Nothing like that ever happens in the game after that.
It shows that Capcom upped their 3D animation with this title to make up for the lack of anime cutscenes!
Everyone prosecutor Sad Monk is told to shut up I gain more crops in my field.
In the games, we have had a parrot, someone on a radio, a whale and the spirits of DEAD people testify with little objection from the prosecutors. But apparently, a five year old who is an alter is too far?! You gonna love Ace Attorney logic.
You give the Wright and Co. Law office an inch they'll take a mile when it comes to unorthodox witnesses.
to be fair nahyuta is lie REALLY combative and is generally potrayed as stubborn
while in the past the reason the othr rprosecutors would let things slide is various (von karma becaue he dosn't take phoenix seriously, franziska wasn't really there for the rally wild shit apart from trilo and miles respects phoenix eough to know what he's doing, and simon because he's curious as to what this is heading to, and lavier would go along because hes chill
And I'm quite sure if Nahyuta heard about all those other instances he would go "Pardon me, but what the flying fuck?"
Something to note Bucky would always turn blue after saying a specific word: "noodle"
I was hoping you'd use that title for this part!
Also, I really love Owen's reveal, and Uendo in general. It's not only an amazing bait and switch, but also a subversion of a lot of negative stereotypes surrounding DID.
i like how when Uendo was getting up onto the witness stand, and we the players expect a vicious monster, only for it to be a 5 year old boy who wouldn't even harm a fly. great subversion of an expectation from Capcom. :)
I KNEW THAT WAS GONNA BE THE NAME OF THE EPISODE!!!
Touhou enthusiast spotted (also had the exact thought after the last episode)
@@subinator201 I'm not a toulouse enthusiast, I just enjoy classic internet memes.
@@subinator201 I on the otherhand am a touhou!
This is the SECOND time that a Prosecutor tried to wring the Defence Attorney by the neck, lol
23:06 One of the many ways that the 3D has improved since Dual Destinies. When you’re able to do shots like this. It almost looks like Simon is grabbing and shaking the camera.
Y'know I never really thought about the fact that in this case we force a witness to intoxicate themselves, and how that's a little bit weird actually
oh owen's a child alter! theyre typically called little/littles (for plural) in the DID community. from my experience, a child alter only forms if the original (the person who was there before the alters) experiences childhood trauma. typically something so scarring like sexual assault or physical/mental abuse. though my experience isnt universal, so take my word as a grain of salt, it's just a pattern I've noticed.
hopefully athena puts her psychology skills to use to help the child give testimony (maybe play therapy?)
That only scares me more about the potential implications. Maybe Uendo’s dad was physically or sexually abusive?
That scene of Simon facing Athena has got to be one of the greatest scenes. It’s such a unique animation!
8:00 - This is just like what religious folks IRL say when new scientific theories are raised: "Oh, look how quick your story changes when new evidence comes out!" Yeah, that's the point. A new theory that fits the evidence is far more reasonable than sticking to the same theory that makes no sense with the new evidence presented.
Depends in what scenario they're saying it in. If they're saying it whenever literally any new scientific theory is raised, then yeah that's dumb.
I think it's valid when it's brought up in an argument about faith, considering that I see a lot of people act like believing in science means that they aren't living lives based on faith. Which isn't what science is. Unless these people are actually doing every scientific discovery themselves without taking anybody else's word for it, don't put credence to anything theoretical, and literally all of the conclusions they realize don't end up being overturned in a few years, then maybe I'll believe that. But that's not how anybody realistic actually treats science, because that's not a realistic way to live, since a lot of science is theory and not every idea is accepted by all scientists.
Both of them are putting faith in their own answers to the unknown, just from different places. And science changes its understanding more, but it also derives meaning from finding your own answers on interpreting things we can't know. Religion just happens to be one of those answers.
Some people would argue that science makes religion obselete, but that's more like putting faith in the idea that science will someday do that.
It's had a pretty hard time at it currently when the objective observation of our surroundings has to include things like "deathbed phenomena" (look it up on wikipedia), or archeological discoveries that line up with the Bible's timeline of events. Stuff like Tel Dan Stele proving King David existed, or modern archeology's entire understanding around the Hittites being predated by the Bible and later supported with findings of evidence.
If one day science actually did just hard deconfirm all religion and erase all unanswered questions from life, I think that'd take away free will, since I think the fact that we choose what to make of our environments is what gives us that kind of choice.
I think the fact we have that room to change our story allows life to have meaning. Religion nor science as they are now really take away from that meaning since they're just different answers.
Phoenix passed through this, also Apollo, and now Athena. The "trust your client until the very end". It's a given by now but I love these moments. They define why Ace Attorney protagonists are so heroic.
I really love this case, and I’m so glad that the game treated DID so well. I can’t tell you how scared I was that Uendo would be guilty after the reveal. And then when we finally met Owen and found out he was five, I genuinely felt like a bad person for make him front and then cross examining him. I really wish we could’ve had more time with this case.
Wow, I'll never look at soba noodle dough the same again. That's wild.
yayy you finally got to meet my favourite witness in this case! I love owen so much. also yeah pointing out the murder weapon was ROUGH for me. I ended up having to just look it up because I really couldn’t figure it out
35:41 Owen's only five but Athena's not that innocent.
The first-person view of Simon shaking Athena got me all hot and bothered when I first played this game!
This is completely unrelated to the game, but for some reason the way you say "hello everyone" at the beginning of each episode makes me think of the floating cat from Azumanga Daioh saying "hallo every-nyan" and it always cracks me up 😂
OH MY GAH
32:18 IT'S FUCKING RAW!
I have got to say, I love Owen. I relate to him and Uendo on such a personal level.
Uendo and Owen are peak, I won't hear otherwise. MY HEARRRRT.
Ah yes! Owen! Owen is an alter called a “little,” due to his age.
I wonder how the alters age with the person. Did Owen start out a babby or was he five when he first came about…?
it depends on the system but typically alters stay the same age throughout the years if theyre not super involved with hosting or fronting. it seems like owen has been 5 for years if hes not typically ever present unless the hosts are passed out. and yes owen did come out as a 5 yr old.
TOOHOO?!
I was watching NintendoCaprisun on the last Yoshi story level which was posted 13 years ago I use to watch his videos years ago. Definitely gonna check out this channel as well!
"Can you kill someone with a bowl?"
You can kill someone with pretty much anything if enough force is applied.
Dunno if it was intentional but I thoroughly entertained that you went with the U.N. Owen direction when Flan is just as much of a child. Only in this Owen's case, he's obviously human, and truly could not hurt a fly
Didn't you have a list of words that started with P for your Super Paper Mario LP? Should make a new one (Or find the original) for everytime "Pohlkunan" comes up.
Picking the handstand option produces a hilarious aftermath when Athena tries to justify it. 😆
Thank you for the lovely update Lucah. I always appreciate your videos and energy you give them. You are a favorite and I am glad to have been around this long
The title is SENDING me i had the biggest interest in And Then There Were None for like a year but since there was like no content for it besides a tv show behind a paywall i had to make it ALL myself
The last time we saw a fictional character with four different personalities one of them WAS a deranged mass murderer... but Owen clearly isn't.
Yes, I got the title. A reference to And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie
Everyone's losing their minds about a Touhou (think it's spelled right) reference and I'm over here confused because I have no idea what that is.
Also I love seeing Taka. 2:04 Yes we do know what you're about and honestly we love you for that but also valid.
me: "omg an Agatha Christie reference!"
everyone else: "omg a Touhou reference!"
me: "what's touhou again"
(i say "again" as if i ever figured out what it was in the first place. if i had to guess, i'd say it's somehow related to shin megami tensei)
@@michaels4340 Agatha Christie? The name definitely seems familiar.
UN Owen Was Her? is the name of the theme for one of Touhou's bosses, Flandre Scarlet. Even for someone who's never played a Touhou game, I've come to recognize the song's' iconic status for it's widespread use in covers (like those from RichaadEB and The8BitDrummer) and in YTPMV/MADS (Like Ronald McDonald Insanity, and Muscular Wonders - Terry Crews' Greatest Hits).
It's a pretty good track imo, highly recommend you check it, or any of the covers, out for a listen.
@@TheRealChristopherB So it's a game? I've not ever heard of the song covers or otherwise either.
BOY!
Protect the boy!!!
I did NOT expect a Touhou reference as a name but I'm not complaining!
thank you for the video today :)
23:04 is this the only time we’ve ever really played with a first person view like this? Having another character grab us and shake us around? Though I guess there was also Maya and Nick in the first case of Layton vs. Wright.
In the games, yes - in the anime version of Bridge to the Turnabout, there's a scene where Godot grabs Nick by the coat though
23:10 Been waiting for this moment since the case began!
What is interesting though: Flandre Scarlet, the Touhou-Character who has that Theme-Name, has an Attack, a so-called "Spell-Card" which is called "FOUR off a a Kind!"
I knew you would enjoy that close up with Simon. I'm glad you are enjoying the case so far; so buckle up, this ride still isn't near the end.
Doodoo doodoo do do, doodoo doodoo do, *baby!*
As cute as Owen is, I’m wondering what the heck kind of trauma this guy went through to end up with 3 other personalities. I’m assuming that Owen is the base personality and not Uendo, but someone correct me if I’m wrong
🎹H-Hello, I'm a-actually a Little (young um, alter) myself, Owen m-might be the original, um, person? That the system was beforehand, but there's n-not really a "base" personality for a lot of systems. There's u-uh, a host alter, which may b-be the "main fronter", but it's s-sorta more seen that um, aspects that didn't fuse together i-in childhood grew into their o-own parts. So, um, i-it'd be like Owen was there, but so were the others? - Kadie
@@DoctorSanity Cool, thanks for the extra info
The title made my day. Omg nostalgia ❤
Damnit, Lucah. I set up for this joke on episode 41, and now it's your title and if I make it, it will just be redundent. Kappa
This video title is PEAK, love iiiiit
11:12 ....can we just blame the clown and go home? Unless there's someone else involved in this case, its gotta be her, right?
16:10 Honestly? Children usually ARE honest when there's no obvious reason that lying would be beneficial to them. The problem is children's *perceptions of reality* can be different than adult's and so it can be hard to interpret things they say. A lot of children say they're scared of a monster under their bed or in their closet, but even though we as adults know monsters aren't real, that doesn't mean their *fear* isn't real
U. N. Owen!! I remember!! Then There Was None!!
Here we go
...................thanks for the cliffhanger. Love those >_>
wow an And Then There Were None reference in the title :o
Huh, who would have guessed that U.N. stands for UeNdo
Also, that bit at 23:00 is rad and I really hope they do more like it: if we're gonna move from 2D to 3D, might as well make use of it in choreography
I know the title of the epsiode is from an Agatha Christine book, but don't be surprised when you hear most people say it's from Touhou. :P
I *LOVE* this title! Japanese Ronald McDonald and Ron Stewart made the best covers of UN Owen was her!
You can take the game out of Japan, but you can't take Japan out of the game, and in this franchise, there's always that one trial that makes me wonder how the localization team managed to pull it off. I do not envy the translators who worked on this trial one bit.
I'll never look at soba the same way again
I love Touhou!
love it
Man aint that title a blast from the past.
I had to do a double take when I saw the title and thought youtube glitched out to the title of a different video 😂
11:41 Woooow ruuuudde!!!
With that title you now have to play the Ace Attorney/Touhou fangames about Aya. It's your duty now.
YESSSSS
Also as an old wrestling fan I truly hope the reference to "Owen's heart" was intentional
I CANT ESCAPE TOUHOU WHEREVER I GO
I knew 23:04 would get Lucah excited.
Hehehe that title… I remember making that specific comment when they brought up the Owen topic lol (I don’t know if I deleted it or not tho)
I get the title, I do!
17:05 I'm watching another playthrough where they rotate their thinking and the chessboard all the time.
cant believe we named this episode after touhou lol
I can’t believe there are dozens of other episodes not named after tou hou
34:47 Oh *NOW* he says the cards could be irrelevant!🤦♂️