@@DavidAddis very very useful. Maybe you can recommend any audio interface that works best with mac? I'm new to jamulus and just starting my setup. I play guitar and wanted to plug in a mic as well. thank so much!
@@DavidAddis Thanks. My question is. How is it that the major news network organizations around the world cant Zoom broadcast without interruption, technicalities, et, how can Jamulus promote anything better? Billion dollar media giants with comparative IT departments "gone fishing?" And I thought configuring a DAW, motif, MIDI assigned to tracks to ??? was difficult.
Hi David, I am using a much simpler setup on Jamulus. I connect a USB desktop mic to my laptop and use it for my fiddle and voice. I connect my Headphone to the 1.3mm audio input on the laptop. I use an ethernet cable and connect to a fast server. If someone joins your group, you can mute them while playing. Only problem is if someone is far away from the server, they lag a bit and everyone starts slowing down. Thanks for the video.
Very kind to put this tutorial together I just downloaded jamulus turned on my Soundcraft eight mixer and I was in, just like that I didn't have to do anything common now of course if you want to make a private room that's different but there's so many empty rooms common even if somebody joins in on your room and you don't want to hear them you have a slider for each member you can turn it right down, and the sound is like amazing Hi-Fi stereo sound, even better if there is a better, it kind of reminded me of like HD audio
Very cool vid thank you for going over the end to end setup! This process would melt a few of my band members analog brains! it will be very interesting to see how music tech companies streamline this whole process. Thanks again!
Great "all coverage tutorial". Thanks for the effort of making it! For those who do like experimenting Jamulus without setting up a private server but do not want getting 'disturbed' by other passengers: Select an appropriate public server and hit the "Solo"- button for every band member. (Be aware; your band members still can be heard by others. Actually they may join your Jam session and play along for themselves).
Thanks a lot for this GREAT explanation about how to setup the connections. And i really appreciate that you posted this video. Incredibly helpful. Thanks again !
Really helpful, THANK YOU! We want to try Jamulus for our Barbershop Quartet rehearsals, so the lag time will be critical for us - no "click track" for us! Good luck with your band...!
@@DavidAddis We've had a few Barbershop Quartet rehearsals now on Jamulus. Synchronization has been an issue (Can we hit the notes at the same time) but that's due to not being able to see each other in real time, less than internet lag. We've had some minor tech issues (one of our singers is really tech phobic), but they're solvable. Good luck!
I was pretty enthusiastic about this program, but this is now the third video I’ve watched in high hopes of getting there. But! Alas! I think that day will never come. My old brain simply refuses to take it all in. Just the same, my compliments on your effort to bring important information to us punters. Keep on pickin. John Paiva
I’m 45, this is, by no means getting any younger. But I’ve always been a bit of a geek. That’s what let me set my Mac as a Jamulus server for my band (reducing latency to almost zero). Is not the age: is the geekyness. There’s always a geek close to you who could guide you :) Regards from MX City.
Yeah just buying usb-enabled mixer and your ready to go if you have your effects in Hardware forum, plug in a stage mic plug in your guitar plug-in backtracks to play through right through UA-cam right into the jamulus room, all the rooms list latency and you can get very little late and see if you join a server in your country or very near to you oh, I already had my usb-enabled mixer plugged into the computer and setup so when I downloaded jamulus I just accepted the program installed it and just like that I did not to do anything special. I know very little about computers
I was about to beat my head through a wall then stumbled upon this video! thanks! Still my beat my head through the wall, but at least it's on my own terms now.
I find with wired ethernet, cable 300 down 15 up, and my M1 Mac Mini , I can get a delary of 36 ms with a good server with the same. The delay is (self monitoring is hardly noticeable) and with a hardware synth. With a soft synth,there will be delay introduced by that. and wifi connection will introduce a 3-4 ms latency (assuuming no other devidess online). gigabit wire ethernet only introduces a 0.3 ms latency..
This set up seems daunting, but I am keeping my mind open. Fixing the sync issue is what it's all about, right?! Has Jamulus been used successfully with voices only for a small a cappella group?
Even before you join a room at tells you what the latency is, typical latency of fast shooter games online is like 80 milliseconds is ideal Johnny list provides up to as low as 24 millisecond and you cannot notice that there's no way, there's no way to detect that kind of latency oh, that would be something like one thousandth of a second
Just wondering.....Are you or anyone in here familiar with JamKazam? I've been using it since last April. It's very workable but does have latency issues as well. So, so my question is for anyone who has used both Jamulus and JamKazam, which do you find works better/reduced latency/quality sound? Both are as complicated to set up, so I don't want to go through that process again if I get enough comments that JamKazam is equal to Jamulus. PS Great video! Thank you David!
You're welcome! Glad it was useful! We used JamKazam, then switched to Jamulus. Generally we found it easier to set up (Jamulus) and for reducing the latency, plus we could host our own server. We did miss the video though.
Hi David - great video! I’m just approaching the testing stage with Jamulus...eventually I’d like to do something with visuals as well as music - I was wondering how you made the video of your band playing? Was that via Zoom or can you record video with Jamulus? Cheers!
Hi Ian, no we just set up a camera or webcam and I synced everything in post. In theory though you could run Zoom at the same time (you might want to disable its audio so it doesn't interfere with Jamulus).
David Addis ah, I see - yes, I was thinking combining a Zoom and Jamulus session into a single file - maybe in iMovie - might be a way to go - theoretically at least!
David am I to understand that if I want to use Jamulus I can plug a mic and guitar into the back of a Helix LT and then into my laptop and join/run a jam session without a USB/audio interface (it seems as though I can use the Helix as my audio interface)..?? I am still a little cloudy about this area. Excellent video. Thanks very much..DJ
Thanks for the video, very accurate description of all the steps but one thing I haven't got yet, what takes care of the video part? Is that Jamulus or something else?
Hi David, very nice and clear explanation of it all! Thanks for all the work. We’re just starting to experimenting some programms and thusfar tried SonoBus, Jamkazam en now trying some things on Jamulus. Have you tried other options too, before deciding to use Jamulus? And do you use direct monitoring or not (I’ve read somewhere not to use it, but I’m not sure). Thanks for answering, cheers Lars
Hello sir. For long time I'm looking for the best software for online band collaboration. I think this one might be better. Thank you for this tutorial. God bless you.
This is a nice tutorial for Jamulus. Wondering if you have figured out or know of how to send video at low latencies that is synchronized with the audio. In my band, there is a need for the musicians to be seeing each other while performing as the 'main' artist provides a rather complex beat cycle with a hand movement, and the accompanying artists take cues from the hand movements/beat cycle to introduce impromptu embellishments (some math involved) that have to fit in the cycle. Any thoughts?
One of the clearest tutorials I've seen about techy matters! Thanks so much! David - do you happen to know how many user musicians can 'jam' at the same time with Jamulus because I am hoping to use it for a large group of singers (up to 30) which, for the time being, will have to continue making music online from their homes? Any advice on this most welcome.
Glad you found it useful Peter! Apparently the max numbers of users in a single session is 50, but you may hit your bandwidth cap on the server before that. I would try to group them together where possible (so it works out as closer to 10 groups of a few musicians each, all sharing a jamulus login), and use the most well-connected server you can find! I would be very interested to know how you get on. :)
@@DavidAddis Thank you very much. I'll try this in groups where possible and we'll see how we get on. I'll let you know! I'm going down the 'private' server route - I don't want to crash Jamulus or limit things for other people! Hope it won't do that. Thanks again.
We've mostly got pretty average cable broadband here in the UK - we are fairly close together (London and Reading) geographically. I have a faster connection, fiber in central London. Don't have all the figures though, sorry!
@@DavidAddis Thanks for getting back to me - I get 60mb/s down and 30mb/s from my mobile hotspot trying to see if thats good enough - I'll test it out (live on a boat)
Nice work here! But I got a kinda silly question, do you think its possible to record a band (electronic drums, guitars, bass and keyboard) using vsts FOR ALL THESE INSTRUMENTS from ONE COMPUTER at the same time?
Sure! You just need a sound device with enough inputs for all the instruments, and a computer powerful enough to run all the VST effects simultaneously (not such a big problem nowadays). Studio One or Logic Pro will do it, among many other DAWs. Good luck!
What is misleading about this video is that the very last screen makes it look like you can jam together in real time with video. As far as I know, only JamKazam supports this. Jamulus is audio only, as is Sonobus. These videos that were all over the place during covid with 16 people playing together in video windows are highly produced and edited to make it look like this is what you see at the time.
May have been answered earlier... How did you get video of the band live while rehearsing I've with Jamulus? I am thinking something like Zoom with the audio turned off for video and Jamulus for the audio. ADV*thanks*ANCE
Hello. I didn't have time to go through this Q&A but when you get to work on Jamulus you can't SEE the other musicians you play with, correct? You are only listening to each other play? Could you Zoom and play through Jamulus? thank you.
Jamulus doesn't do video. You could, in theory, also run Zoom/Google Hangouts at the same time so you can all see each other. It wouldn't be in sync though.
@@DavidAddis oh,ok. I thought from seeing your video that that's how it looked on Jamulus.No problem. As long as I can jam with others that's a cool tool. thx & thx for the quick response
David if I'm showing that the latency is 40 Ms for instance while on Wi-Fi why would I necessarily have to hook up directly with an ethernet cable? After all the results are what they are being received as while plugged in as Wi-Fi. Has anybody run any tests and those tests indicating that the latency is all over the place when using Wi-Fi? The reason I ask is because I don't have available ports, my laptop does not have Wi-Fi or do I have available USB to use a adapter. So that's my only option is Wi-Fi. So it makes sense to me that as long as the latency Test shows low latency while Wi-Fi is plugged in. It'll be maintained at say 40 Ms throughout the entire jam session. Now if anybody has done tests to show that the Wi-Fi is not stable and that large latency comes in unpredictably from time to time let me know thank you
40ms is pretty low in telephony terms, but for live rehearsal I think you would feel it. Especially if your bandmates have about the same. Wired LAN is far better if you can make it work! Perhaps you can get a new dongle to open up some USBs and get an Ethernet port?
Its such a good software but really hard to configure things in windows. Somehow i need to use asio4all but on that i cannot hear my guitar. Neither i can route my daw to the software
Really helpful walkthrough for non-IT folks. Sadly the reality for me so far has been is that shared broadband connections are so hammered at the moment with everyone at home that all of these remote jamming tools seem to fail as soon as one of the band members has an unreliable connection or a substantially different latency than the rest of the group. Roll on live music!! I know that you understand this and your video feeds to the band were just for the UA-cam tutorial but just to comment for non IT folk that having a video feed like zoom or facetime or a youtube broadcast at the same as Jamulus is going to destroy your jamming session. You need ALL your network capacity for the jam and should close ALL other apps browers etc that use the network. Thanks for posting this though and I will try this tool and report back ..... :)
"Clicky" is running on another computer, my desktop PC. It doesn't actually have a ASIO sound card, but you can download Voicemeeter, and route your audio through that (you get a 'virtual' ASIO output). Since you don't care about the latency of what the click track is hearing (because it's just outputting clicks), it's okay that it's running with this extra software.
This is all straightforward for me, but the key seems to be hardware, not software. I need that USB connecting device and maybe something that connects to my pedals as well? Without the hardware connected properly to the computer, none of this works.
Good idea, but no way to naturally rehearse without latency, it's physically impossible. Maybe in a couple years. I'll rehearse in person, thank you very much :)
Fair enough. After having to do this for about 6 months in our band, we’ve realised we don’t particularly like rehearsing this way, but it’s better than nothing!
@@DavidAddis I recorded a ton of music and collaborated with people remotely during quarantine. IMO a much better and more productive use of everybody's time :) Pick out a tempo, and record all instruments separately.
i appreciate the video, but it doesnt work very well does it ? in the parts where you all play the music is a mess. (no offense) but clearly a latency issue.
It's a fair point. There is latency which makes it a lot more difficult. But it is possible to set it up better than us (we have found a better 3rd-party server since I made this video, for example), so I think it can work, if you can get the latency down low enough through a combination of tech savvy and luck.
I was thinking the same thing, for live jamming to really work both parties need to have extremely low ping latency, I'd say 10ms or less, otherwise it's just physics at play, at around 40ms you can start to notice sync issues. Of course if your just wanting to rehearse I suppose this would work.
I cannot believed you took the time to go thru this tutorial. You are very kind. Thanks so much.
Hey, you're welcome Ben! Hope it was useful 👍
@@DavidAddis very very useful. Maybe you can recommend any audio interface that works best with mac? I'm new to jamulus and just starting my setup. I play guitar and wanted to plug in a mic as well. thank so much!
@@DavidAddis Thanks. My question is. How is it that the major news network organizations around the world cant Zoom broadcast without interruption, technicalities, et, how can Jamulus promote anything better? Billion dollar media giants with comparative IT departments "gone fishing?" And I thought configuring a DAW, motif, MIDI assigned to tracks to ??? was difficult.
Hi David, I am using a much simpler setup on Jamulus. I connect a USB desktop mic to my laptop and use it for my fiddle and voice. I connect my Headphone to the 1.3mm audio input on the laptop. I use an ethernet cable and connect to a fast server. If someone joins your group, you can mute them while playing. Only problem is if someone is far away from the server, they lag a bit and everyone starts slowing down. Thanks for the video.
Very kind to put this tutorial together I just downloaded jamulus turned on my Soundcraft eight mixer and I was in, just like that I didn't have to do anything common now of course if you want to make a private room that's different but there's so many empty rooms common even if somebody joins in on your room and you don't want to hear them you have a slider for each member you can turn it right down, and the sound is like amazing Hi-Fi stereo sound, even better if there is a better, it kind of reminded me of like HD audio
Very cool vid thank you for going over the end to end setup! This process would melt a few of my band members analog brains! it will be very interesting to see how music tech companies streamline this whole process. Thanks again!
Great "all coverage tutorial". Thanks for the effort of making it! For those who do like experimenting Jamulus without setting up a private server but do not want getting 'disturbed' by other passengers: Select an appropriate public server and hit the "Solo"- button for every band member. (Be aware; your band members still can be heard by others. Actually they may join your Jam session and play along for themselves).
Nice tip! Thanks :)
Thanks for your reply. I have a home studio and record all the time. It’s the whole setup thing that blows my mind.
Thanks a lot for this GREAT explanation about how to setup the connections. And i really appreciate that you posted this video.
Incredibly helpful. Thanks again !
Thanks Thierry, you’re welcome!
Wow, excellent explanation. There's enough technology in this video to travel to the Delta Quadrant.
But not back again, huh? ;)
Excellent Tutorial, TYVM from New York City!
You’re welcome!
Well done David! Just when I thought you guys couldn't be any better, Michael rocks up with a Rickenbacker! 😍
Really helpful, THANK YOU! We want to try Jamulus for our Barbershop Quartet rehearsals, so the lag time will be critical for us - no "click track" for us! Good luck with your band...!
Thanks, you too!
@@DavidAddis We've had a few Barbershop Quartet rehearsals now on Jamulus. Synchronization has been an issue (Can we hit the notes at the same time) but that's due to not being able to see each other in real time, less than internet lag. We've had some minor tech issues (one of our singers is really tech phobic), but they're solvable. Good luck!
Hi David, thanks for the nice explanation. We´ll try that out with our band.
I was pretty enthusiastic about this program, but this is now the third video I’ve watched in high hopes of getting there. But! Alas! I think that day will never come. My old brain simply refuses to take it all in. Just the same, my compliments on your effort to bring important information to us punters. Keep on pickin.
John Paiva
Don’t give up John! Get a cheap usb audio interface and just plug a mic into it, then try connecting to anyone’s server. You can go from there!
I’m 45, this is, by no means getting any younger. But I’ve always been a bit of a geek. That’s what let me set my Mac as a Jamulus server for my band (reducing latency to almost zero). Is not the age: is the geekyness. There’s always a geek close to you who could guide you :) Regards from MX City.
Yeah just buying usb-enabled mixer and your ready to go if you have your effects in Hardware forum, plug in a stage mic plug in your guitar plug-in backtracks to play through right through UA-cam right into the jamulus room, all the rooms list latency and you can get very little late and see if you join a server in your country or very near to you oh, I already had my usb-enabled mixer plugged into the computer and setup so when I downloaded jamulus I just accepted the program installed it and just like that I did not to do anything special. I know very little about computers
I was about to beat my head through a wall then stumbled upon this video! thanks! Still my beat my head through the wall, but at least it's on my own terms now.
Hah! Good stuff. Well I hope you get to rehearse before suffering any permanent injury. 🤣
I find with wired ethernet, cable 300 down 15 up, and my M1 Mac Mini , I can get a delary of 36 ms with a good server with the same. The delay is (self monitoring is hardly noticeable) and with a hardware synth. With a soft synth,there will be delay introduced by that. and wifi connection will introduce a 3-4 ms latency (assuuming no other devidess online). gigabit wire ethernet only introduces a 0.3 ms latency..
This set up seems daunting, but I am keeping my mind open. Fixing the sync issue is what it's all about, right?! Has Jamulus been used successfully with voices only for a small a cappella group?
It has! But I would still recommend using a click track like we did.
Even before you join a room at tells you what the latency is, typical latency of fast shooter games online is like 80 milliseconds is ideal Johnny list provides up to as low as 24 millisecond and you cannot notice that there's no way, there's no way to detect that kind of latency oh, that would be something like one thousandth of a second
@@jimlawrence344 24 milliseconds is literally 24 thousandths of a second, and yes, it _is_ noticeable.
Nice summary, David -- thanks so much!
Just wondering.....Are you or anyone in here familiar with JamKazam? I've been using it since last April. It's very workable but does have latency issues as well. So, so my question is for anyone who has used both Jamulus and JamKazam, which do you find works better/reduced latency/quality sound? Both are as complicated to set up, so I don't want to go through that process again if I get enough comments that JamKazam is equal to Jamulus. PS Great video! Thank you David!
You're welcome! Glad it was useful! We used JamKazam, then switched to Jamulus. Generally we found it easier to set up (Jamulus) and for reducing the latency, plus we could host our own server. We did miss the video though.
Great video, thanks for the effort and detailing the process with care. Very kind of you. Greetings from LA.
Thanks for watching! Hope it was useful.
Hi David - great video! I’m just approaching the testing stage with Jamulus...eventually I’d like to do something with visuals as well as music - I was wondering how you made the video of your band playing? Was that via Zoom or can you record video with Jamulus? Cheers!
Hi Ian, no we just set up a camera or webcam and I synced everything in post. In theory though you could run Zoom at the same time (you might want to disable its audio so it doesn't interfere with Jamulus).
David Addis ah, I see - yes, I was thinking combining a Zoom and Jamulus session into a single file - maybe in iMovie - might be a way to go - theoretically at least!
David am I to understand that if I want to use Jamulus I can plug a mic and guitar into the back of a Helix LT and then into my laptop and join/run a jam session without a USB/audio interface (it seems as though I can use the Helix as my audio interface)..?? I am still a little cloudy about this area. Excellent video. Thanks very much..DJ
Brilliant knowledge sharing here! You're a Start !! Thank you:)
Thanks for the video, very accurate description of all the steps but one thing I haven't got yet, what takes care of the video part? Is that Jamulus or something else?
Jamulus doesn’t do video. Jamkazam will, or you could run Zoom at the same time.
Hi David, very nice and clear explanation of it all! Thanks for all the work. We’re just starting to experimenting some programms and thusfar tried SonoBus, Jamkazam en now trying some things on Jamulus. Have you tried other options too, before deciding to use Jamulus? And do you use direct monitoring or not (I’ve read somewhere not to use it, but I’m not sure).
Thanks for answering, cheers Lars
Great tutorial, question ; does each member need interface and to down load Jamulus app? Thank you great job.
Thanks! Yes, everyone needs an interface and Jamulus running locally.
Very helpful thanks 😊
Hello sir. For long time I'm looking for the best software for online band collaboration. I think this one might be better. Thank you for this tutorial. God bless you.
You're welcome! Glad it was useful 😊
This is a nice tutorial for Jamulus. Wondering if you have figured out or know of how to send video at low latencies that is synchronized with the audio. In my band, there is a need for the musicians to be seeing each other while performing as the 'main' artist provides a rather complex beat cycle with a hand movement, and the accompanying artists take cues from the hand movements/beat cycle to introduce impromptu embellishments (some math involved) that have to fit in the cycle. Any thoughts?
Jamkazam (similar software) does video as well as audio, so that might work out for you. Not sure about the latency of the video in that case, though.
One of the clearest tutorials I've seen about techy matters! Thanks so much! David - do you happen to know how many user musicians can 'jam' at the same time with Jamulus because I am hoping to use it for a large group of singers (up to 30) which, for the time being, will have to continue making music online from their homes? Any advice on this most welcome.
Glad you found it useful Peter! Apparently the max numbers of users in a single session is 50, but you may hit your bandwidth cap on the server before that. I would try to group them together where possible (so it works out as closer to 10 groups of a few musicians each, all sharing a jamulus login), and use the most well-connected server you can find! I would be very interested to know how you get on. :)
@@DavidAddis Thank you very much. I'll try this in groups where possible and we'll see how we get on. I'll let you know! I'm going down the 'private' server route - I don't want to crash Jamulus or limit things for other people! Hope it won't do that. Thanks again.
Super helpful!
Thanks!
Glad I found this video because now I know not to try this overcomplicated shit.
Nice playing guys - thanks for the tutorial - can I ask what where your upload/download speeds? roughly (with a speed test)
We've mostly got pretty average cable broadband here in the UK - we are fairly close together (London and Reading) geographically. I have a faster connection, fiber in central London. Don't have all the figures though, sorry!
@@DavidAddis Thanks for getting back to me - I get 60mb/s down and 30mb/s from my mobile hotspot trying to see if thats good enough - I'll test it out (live on a boat)
We just Jam at lower volume, none of us have Died of Covid, although we have on stage a few times, from not practicing.
Great video David ! what kind of camera do you have in your hands ???? Yhanks !
Thanks, Yvan! I filmed it with my trusty A7iii.
@@DavidAddis Thanks for answering David but I was talking about the little white one with an ext. mic connexion...
@@Granbjam oh sorry! That’s a Sony FDR-X3000
Nice work here!
But I got a kinda silly question, do you think its possible to record a band (electronic drums, guitars, bass and keyboard) using vsts FOR ALL THESE INSTRUMENTS from ONE COMPUTER at the same time?
Sure! You just need a sound device with enough inputs for all the instruments, and a computer powerful enough to run all the VST effects simultaneously (not such a big problem nowadays). Studio One or Logic Pro will do it, among many other DAWs. Good luck!
What is misleading about this video is that the very last screen makes it look like you can jam together in real time with video. As far as I know, only JamKazam supports this. Jamulus is audio only, as is Sonobus. These videos that were all over the place during covid with 16 people playing together in video windows are highly produced and edited to make it look like this is what you see at the time.
May have been answered earlier...
How did you get video of the band live while rehearsing I've with Jamulus?
I am thinking something like Zoom with the audio turned off for video and Jamulus for the audio.
ADV*thanks*ANCE
We just set up another camera while using Jamulus and I synced it later. But your Zoom idea sounds good too!
I'm from Scandinavia, is coffee okay? I seem to get the same results
Greetings! In theory it should work, although obviously something like water or weak orange squash won't have the staying power.
@@DavidAddis Great, thanks! Also great instruction video!
Quick question I work in IT. What is a ruter? Never heard of that before
Haha... well over here in the South of England most people do indeed say router like "root"er instead of router like r-out-er.
Does this allow you to sync the video with audio or is that a separate program? Sorry, I'm a noob
Hello. I didn't have time to go through this Q&A but when you get to work on Jamulus you can't SEE the other musicians you play with, correct? You are only listening to each other play? Could you Zoom and play through Jamulus? thank you.
Correct. I think you could run Zoom at the same time. Just be careful Zoom doesn’t hog your audio device and cripple Jamulus.
Hi, As you said you can have HX STOMP instead of Audio interface on @0:41, is that same for Line pod go. Thank you
Thank you!
petrucci's old picasso ibanez!
Where/how does the video/web cam get connected to become active?
Jamulus doesn't do video. You could, in theory, also run Zoom/Google Hangouts at the same time so you can all see each other. It wouldn't be in sync though.
@@DavidAddis oh,ok. I thought from seeing your video that that's how it looked on Jamulus.No problem. As long as I can jam with others that's a cool tool. thx & thx for the quick response
Looked for Jamulus in Play Store and can't find it? Recent comments so I'm pretty sure this isn't outdated info. ??
Sorry dude, it’s not on Android. You’ll need a computer!
Is there a way to fix my band mantes only hearing my clean tone? They can't hear the plugin tones?? Please help anyone
David if I'm showing that the latency is 40 Ms for instance while on Wi-Fi why would I necessarily have to hook up directly with an ethernet cable? After all the results are what they are being received as while plugged in as Wi-Fi. Has anybody run any tests and those tests indicating that the latency is all over the place when using Wi-Fi? The reason I ask is because I don't have available ports, my laptop does not have Wi-Fi or do I have available USB to use a adapter. So that's my only option is Wi-Fi. So it makes sense to me that as long as the latency Test shows low latency while Wi-Fi is plugged in. It'll be maintained at say 40 Ms throughout the entire jam session. Now if anybody has done tests to show that the Wi-Fi is not stable and that large latency comes in unpredictably from time to time let me know thank you
40ms is pretty low in telephony terms, but for live rehearsal I think you would feel it. Especially if your bandmates have about the same. Wired LAN is far better if you can make it work! Perhaps you can get a new dongle to open up some USBs and get an Ethernet port?
Its such a good software but really hard to configure things in windows. Somehow i need to use asio4all but on that i cannot hear my guitar. Neither i can route my daw to the software
Really helpful walkthrough for non-IT folks. Sadly the reality for me so far has been is that shared broadband connections are so hammered at the moment with everyone at home that all of these remote jamming tools seem to fail as soon as one of the band members has an unreliable connection or a substantially different latency than the rest of the group. Roll on live music!!
I know that you understand this and your video feeds to the band were just for the UA-cam tutorial but just to comment for non IT folk that having a video feed like zoom or facetime or a youtube broadcast at the same as Jamulus is going to destroy your jamming session. You need ALL your network capacity for the jam and should close ALL other apps browers etc that use the network.
Thanks for posting this though and I will try this tool and report back ..... :)
This is definitely not for the tech challenged. Hopefully they'll come up with something less complicated in the very near future.
I hear you! I'm trialling a rented server for a friend. If that takes off it could simplify things (at a cost).
how do you set up the click track? on another server with multiple clients?
"Clicky" is running on another computer, my desktop PC. It doesn't actually have a ASIO sound card, but you can download Voicemeeter, and route your audio through that (you get a 'virtual' ASIO output). Since you don't care about the latency of what the click track is hearing (because it's just outputting clicks), it's okay that it's running with this extra software.
Any update?.do you get the best mix for latency?
no background music please
This is all straightforward for me, but the key seems to be hardware, not software. I need that USB connecting device and maybe something that connects to my pedals as well? Without the hardware connected properly to the computer, none of this works.
Quite right! Worth finding a dongle that has a direct Ethernet connection for network.
No, not the ethernet connection, the sound hardware that connects to USB
@@over60exercise Oh right. Yes, a decent USB interface is a must.
Your squeaky chair should join your band !!!
Ha ha ha ha ha
Heheheh. The squeaky chair has since been upgraded!!
Twas a faithful companion while it lasted. LOL
V good video
Cheers!
Any one to help me ? i'm not able to connect with server
What does he mean by click tracks? Is he referring to playing external audio backing tracks or music?
yes, just something to set the timing for the group , I believe
Jamulus or JamKazam Whats is Better?
Good idea, but no way to naturally rehearse without latency, it's physically impossible. Maybe in a couple years. I'll rehearse in person, thank you very much :)
Fair enough. After having to do this for about 6 months in our band, we’ve realised we don’t particularly like rehearsing this way, but it’s better than nothing!
@@DavidAddis I recorded a ton of music and collaborated with people remotely during quarantine. IMO a much better and more productive use of everybody's time :) Pick out a tempo, and record all instruments separately.
how do I create my own server on a Mac?
"Windows or Mac.." works on Linux too!
*cries in ubuntu
Oops! Thanks for the correction!
Rout-er (as in trout, route) not rooter. Rooter is something completely different he he. Nice vid though :)
We say route the same as root over here in Blighty. 🙂
@@DavidAddis :)
Wifi name: Pretty fly for a Wifi
i appreciate the video, but it doesnt work very well does it ? in the parts where you all play the music is a mess. (no offense) but clearly a latency issue.
It's a fair point. There is latency which makes it a lot more difficult. But it is possible to set it up better than us (we have found a better 3rd-party server since I made this video, for example), so I think it can work, if you can get the latency down low enough through a combination of tech savvy and luck.
I was thinking the same thing, for live jamming to really work both parties need to have extremely low ping latency, I'd say 10ms or less, otherwise it's just physics at play, at around 40ms you can start to notice sync issues. Of course if your just wanting to rehearse I suppose this would work.
decent, but lag's still there, there's simply no technology yet to do this.
What the hell is a rootah?
Lol. Welcome to London!