Joe Frazier vs. George Foreman | THE SUNSHINE SHOWDOWN |
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Joe Frazier vs. George Foreman, billed as "The Sunshine Showdown", was a professional boxing match in Kingston, Jamaica contested on January 22, 1973, for the WBA, WBC and The Ring heavyweight championships.
In a matchup of two undefeated future hall-of-famers, undisputed heavyweight champion Joe Frazier and the number one-ranked heavyweight George Foreman reached an agreement in November 1972 for a January title fight at the National Stadium in Kingston, Jamaica. Frazier was 29-0 and had won 10 consecutive heavyweight title fights at the time of his match with Foreman, first winning the NYSAC heavyweight title in 1968 and defending that title four times before knocking out Jimmy Ellis to claim the vacant WBA and WBC titles in 1970 that had been stripped from Muhammad Ali. Frazier's most notable defense would come against Ali himself in what was billed as the "Fight of the Century". After defeating Ali by unanimous decision, Frazier captured The Ring heavyweight title and became recognized as the lineal champion. Between his first Ali fight and his bout with Foreman, Frazier successfully defended his title twice against fringe contenders Terry Daniels and Ron Stander. Following his knockout of Stander, Ali attempted to gain a rematch with Frazier, but Frazier ultimately agreed to face Foreman. The undefeated Foreman had accumulated 37 victories in just four years and was ranked number one by both the WBA and WBC at the time of landing his first title match against Frazier.
The fight lasted only two rounds, with Foreman scoring a technical knockout at 1:35 of the second round to dethrone Frazier and become the new undisputed heavyweight champion. Foreman brutalized Frazier for the duration of the fight, scoring six knockdowns over the champion. In ABC's television re-broadcast, Howard Cosell made the legendary exclamation: "Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!" Less than two minutes into the fight, Foreman stunned Frazier with a series of punches and then sent him down to the canvas with a right uppercut. Frazier was able to get back up but Foreman would continue his dominance and with seventeen seconds left in the round, Foreman caught Frazier with an uppercut that brought him to his knees. Shortly after Frazier rose from that knockdown, a combination from Foreman put the champion on his back and he barely made it out of the round.
I think he hurt Joe Frazier. I think Joe is hurt. Angie Dundee, Ali's trainer, right next to me is saying it, you may hear him-Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier! The heavyweight champion is taking the mandatory 8-count, and Foreman is as poised as can be! In a neutral corner, he is as poised as can be. We have a minute left in this first round, and already, this fight is proving now what some have expected!
Howard Cosell's call on ABC during the first knockdown.
Frazier went out for the second round but Foreman knocked him down again shortly after the round began with an overhand right. Foreman scored another quick knockdown, and then dropped Frazier a sixth time with a powerful right. By this time Angelo Dundee, who was at ringside scouting the bout, was pleading for the bout to be stopped. Referee Arthur Mercante, Sr. finally called a halt to the bout after the sixth knockdown, and Foreman was declared the winner at 1:35 of the second round, to become, at the time, the third-youngest heavyweight champion in history.
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George Chuvalo stood up far better to Foreman than Joe Frazier did and he was a few years older too, past his prime.
@@viking670 frazier only lost to 2 guys and neither of them was named george chuvato. frazier took his whipping like a man as tyson did later.
DOWN GOES FRAZIER, DOWN GOES FRAZIER, DOWN GOES FRAZIER!!! One of the best calls in boxing history. Whenever something falls, my wife says “Down Goes Frazier”. She ani’t even a fight fan. My 6yo grandson says it too
👍👍👍
That's what my wife says when I'm not able to perform
The pre fight footage is unique...BEAUTIFUL . All the chatter back then was about a rematch between Frazier and Ali. This fight with Big George therefore garnered relatively little attention. I walked out of the closed circuit venue that night stunned. I still am.
Yes, each time I see this video I am struck as to how we watched Smokin' Joe enter the ring as the champion for the last time in his career.
@@ssviking81 yup, it's interesting to play " what if " Yank Durham wanted Joe to retire after he beat Ali. But Joe being the proud man he is stayed in the game. If he would of listened to his manager maybe things could of turned out differently for him. It could have been where Ali fights Foreman in '72 or '73 for Frazier's vacated title. I believe a lot of us think Ali beats Foreman which he did anyway. So then it really would have set up a super fight II if they could get Frazier out of retirement. For the money and demand maybe bigger than the first fight.
@@stevecvino The heavyweight division had several sub plots at that time with Ali, Frazier, Foreman and Norton emerging in 1973 after defeating Ali. Its no doubt Joe reached the pinnacle of career in 1971 but the allure of being king of the hill is very strong and makes walking away a tough thing to do. Ali faced the same thing in 1975 following the "Thrilla in Manila".
Uh, actually this was carried live on ABC
@@GH-jb6bq
It was replayed on Wide Word of Sports the following weekend.
Big George was one of the most domineering heavyweights of all time, I am still amazed that Ali beat him.
I echo your comments. I thought George would destroy Ali before the fight, and then when I saw Ali do his "rope a dope" routine, I knew George was going to destroy him. WRONG! However, I feel George would have won a rematch. George should have followed Gil Clancy's recommendation to come to Zimbabwe weeks earlier and to get acclimated to the heat. George chose not to do that, and it cost him bigtime!
Ali boxing ability was beyond great. Also, I once met this gentleman who had some association with Ali camp who said: the 3yr boxing ban for army refusal took Ali's prime boxing yrs away. His leg speed,ring movement&timing wasn't the same. Despite not being 100%fighter as before, Ali was still able to beat legends like Frazier&Foreman while never ducking or hiding fr any hard hitting heavyweight of the 1970s. Greatness!!!
To me, Foreman may have had the most impressive boxing career ever. He hade a great personality and did many good things outside the ring as well, but as a person Ali will always be the greatest ever.
@@joakimquensel597 there was a lot of nefarious occurrences on that day. If you watch George leave the ring after the fight, he could barely walk. He looked drunk as he stumbled out of the ring and down the stairs. The ropes were obviously too loose and Ali could lean way back so George's punches would not have the effect they were supposed to have.
Ali was able to beat Liston, and you amazed about Foreman?!
Joe Frazier is so respectful in all of these old interviews. Hes one of my favorite old-school boxers.
The thing that people don't talk about enough was Foreman's brutal natural strength. He hadn't even started to fill out yet. He retired at 27 weighing 232 pounds and he was still filling out. Watch the fight against Scott Ledouix to see how huge George was getting. He picked up cattle and horses on his shoulders for God's sake. What a monster.
Yes, you could imagine his "walking around weight" before going into pre-fight training mode. He probably was around 250lbs.
Not full grown ones tho , but still super strong ....
He was 230 pound al ready when he was 19.
Back in the seventies the boxers dont want to big..thats why he cutt weight.
@@ssviking81 yes I've said this before. George was the biggest 217 pd. guy I ever seen.
Fun fact: even tho he really was a big guy, today he would be considered too small for heavyweight, which shows how much heavyweight division changed since then.
Thank you for posting this. I've watched this fight many many times over the years, but some of the background footage I've never seen before.
It's hard to believe, January 22, 1973, that's been almost 50 years ago. My youngest sister was born the day before, if memory serves me right, the Vietnam War treaty was signed, President LBJ had just died, Truman died a month earlier, there was no living ex President. The Miami Dolphins had just finished their perfect season by winning the Super Bowl over the Washington Redskins. I was in the 7th grade, just before my 13th birthday.
Chilling to hear the voice of Angelo Dundee screaming 'STOP IT!!!!' - mahn that was a massacre
This channel with this rare footage is worldwide boxing treasure
I really appreciate your comment. THANK YOU
although this is George at his mind blowing peak, both these legends just ooze class. and they have continued to (RIP Joe) to this day. what a great video. thank you for uploading
EVERY PUNCH BIG GEORGE THREW WAS VICIOUS. RAW POWER IN BOTH HANDS!🥊🥊🥊
Fantastic footage!
The pre-fight footage is outstanding. Interesting to see how Frazier carried himself while still the champion leading up to this fight and how he was somewhat pre-occupied with Ali in some of his statements. I like how George was not there to play Mr. Nice Guy in the press conference.
Your correct Frazier was pre-occupied referring to Ali without saying his name. At the beginning Ali got into Fraziers head and never left. Ali was a completely different personality then Forman or Frazier bringing entertainment and worldwide attention to boxing like none other.
I remember the fight well loud mouth screaming down go’s fraizer down god fraizer foreman was a monster to bad the ali fight was fixed
Most destructive round by one heavy weight ever one could argue
@@jaymoon5906 The 14 punch combination thrown by Big George starting at 16:03 was devastating
He was not focused on George, he was overlooking to an Ali rematch. He was just a stepping stone and that was his mistake. If he retained his focus & treated it as a real title fight. He shouldn’t have looked at him in the same way he did with Daniels or Stander. But if Frazier of Manuel Ramos fight was in the ring in with George Foreman, you’d find out there would be a different outcome.
I love your channel man, you even include rare pre and post fight interviews and rare training also, best boxing channel!
Thank you for watching
What a seen Hearing Dundee screaming stop it stop it .. stop it
It's horrifying. He knew Frazier was going to get killed. Foreman hit so fucking hard it was crazy. One bomb after the other. Damn.
Frazier never felt that kind of power
Foreman was a great champion due to tremendous punching power and a granite chin. Imagine winning the title back at 45 with a knockout over a much younger man ?
Fantastic stuff 👏👍🥊
Beating Ali was the peak of Joe's career. But, it was also a curse. Joe became a satisfied fighter who believed he was so good that he no longer needed to train hard to get wins. When Joe fought Ali, he was at 203 lbs. You can see flab around the lower back of Joe in this fight. George was right in what he said before the fight.....Joe didn't want it anymore, he lost that edge after Ali. George was too big and Joe's style played right into George's hands. Joe didn't have a chance.
Agreed. I believe it was just mentally and physically draining on Frazier after the Ali fight. I don't think he ever got his weight down to 205 again. Plus there were a lot of things going on in the background on him. His manager wanted him to retire after the Ali win. After '71 he looked like he aged 10 yrs. Joe was ripe for the picking against Foreman.
When Joe beat Ali..it was like reaching the top of Mt.Everest..it was just too much ..too draining to keep that motivation and fitness going..
heck after he beat Ali, Joe feasted on Ron Stander and Terry Daniels... LOL... Ali, on the other hand, was keeping busy!
@@kaspafischer Ali was fighting bums too. Neither were the same after March '71.
@@blite13 Ken Norton was no bum... broke Ali's jaw. Even Bob Foster and Quarry were quality opposition... Definitely better than Ron Stander and Terry Daniels. 😂 Ali just made them look ordinary.
UNFORTUNATELY FOR JOE HIS STYLE WAS TAYLOR MADE FOR BIG GEORGE! HIS HOOKS CAME UP A LITTLE SHORT. MAYBE THREE YEARS EARLIER WHEN JOE WAS FASTER, MAYBE. JOE WAS NEVER THE SAME AFTER THE FIRST ALI FIGHT!!🥊🥊🥊
You are correct as they say "styles make fights" and Joe's style was perfect for Big George with the uppercuts and hooks that he threw. In an interview George said he felt Joe's power early with a left hook that did land so he felt he needed to take out him quickly.
@@ssviking81 ONE SAVAGE HOOK MISSED BY AN INCH. IF IT CONNECTS, WHO KNOWS. BIG GEORGE WAS SCARY THOUGH!🥊
Your correct when saying that first fight Frazier had with Ali was hard on Joe's body. I think after Ali 1 Joe's prime was gone even though he won. I read after that first fight with Ali, Frazier spent months in the hospital and came close to dying.
@@lloydstanley496 UNFORTUNATELY I THINK WE ARE BOTH RIGHT LLOYD. PRE ALI, JOE WAS FAST, HE ACTUALLY USED BOTH HANDS WELL. HIS BODY LOOKED DIFFERENT. NOT TO MENTION JOE SURVIVED WARS WITH QUARRY, BONAVENA. HE DID SPEND WEEKS IN THE HOSPITAL. ALI WAS NEVER THE SAME EITHER. HE HAD THE PERFECT STYLE TO BEAT GEORGE . HIS ABILITY TO TAKE A PUNCH WAS UNMATCHED.HE SLOWED DOWN ALOT AFTER FIRST FIGHT WITH SMOKING JOE.!🥊🥊🥊
@@richardrobinson1697 After Ali/Frazier 1,a toll was taken on both fighters.However, in my opinion Frazier got the worst of it. Frazier won the first battle but lost the war. 15 rounds slug fest to beat Ali plus allowing Ali to get into his head proved to be too much.Also, not to take anything from Frazier or any fighter who faced Ali after 1970, but Ali being banned for 3yrs for army refusil took his prime boxing yrs leg speed&overall boxing timing.
One of the greatest ass whoopin’s in heavyweight history!!
Liston Patterson x 2.
This was really the golden era of heavyweight hoxing!
18 years later, age 42 Foreman went 12 solid rounds against a 28 year old Holyfield in his prime! And even won the title the next year...
The 1973 Foreman (or Ali) would have completely dominated the heavyweight division of any era, maybe even when Tyson entered the scene.
LOL... Ali's gonna dominate a 6'-9" 275 lb fighter with skills and hand speed far exceeding his own. Yeah, good luck with that.
@@GH-jb6bq ...Tyson Fury was extremely slower than Ali.
@@GH-jb6bq Far exceeding. I have never seen Tyson Fury throw 3 consecutive hooks in a row as one punch and be able to land all three. Prior to the exile Ali was the best heavyweight to lace them up.
@@GH-jb6bq ...You don't know anything about Ali or the sport. Boxing is dead.
@@GH-jb6bq Fury is very agile and quick for his size, but don't get it twisted he doesn't touch Ali in that category. It can't even be compared. Ali also holds the better resume by far. Fury is dodging Usyk who is a legitimate challenger to him.
Bad refering at 16:00. He restarts the fight after stopping it without look if Frazier was ready.
The Ref thought Foreman was using an illegal tactic to gain an advantage on Frazier by pushing him. The caution was meant for Foreman. The Ref does motion for both to continue as he steps back and Frazier who had turned away turns back.
He did his job even though one of George's trainers gets up on the ring to protest.
To my knowledge, no other ref cautioned George about pushing his opponents as Arthur Mercante did on that night in Jamaica. He gave Joe every chance to defend himself and possibly saved his life through the screams of Angelo Dundee to stop the horrible beating that Frazier was taking.
A truly great referee!
@@gopherstate777 This is exactly what happened to Patterson against Johansson in 1959 bout. Patterson was not even facing. The referee called fight when Patterson was walking away.
I'm surprised he didn't give a warning to George's corner for being up on the apron. He should have kept the fighters separate and gave him a warning.
"I said I was the Greatest before I even knew I was" - Muhammad Ali. He knocked out George in the 8th round. I miss the golden days of boxing. Respect for all these legends.
So many different fighters try to look intimidating by puffing out their face or scowling. But, honestly, seeing Big George Foreman staring with a half bored look seems so much more terrifying.
Love how they show the signing here, makes it look like two kingdoms declaring war!! Intense!!
This is great stuff. I love how you edited it. The frozen frames during the brutal knockdowns was a fresh take on this legendary fight. Also, damn Foreman was physically powerful. His strength was off the charts, even when he was a kid that hadn't begun to fill out yet like in this fight. Cheers.
Foremans defense is underrated look how he pushing Frazier off balance when they tries to set up for a punch..the side step and using the opponents momentum against themselves...
Strong as an ox what skill does it take to push someone?
@@keithkimmeysr953 you try push back prime George Foreman
@@joshuatree5620 You miss my point please read again
@@keithkimmeysr953 who said it was a skill to push someone? i see u dont anything about defense when it comes to boxing...pushing is part of defense and when and were to apply the push yes u NEED SKILL. alof of boxers are strong as an ox what does that have to do w the elite defense being applied by Foreman?
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The massive George Foreman destoyinĝ a great champion Joe Frazier in 2 rounds
Damn, it's been 50 years.
Foreman demonstrated great sportsmanship in this fight. Yancey Durham had a look that Frazier was not in shape to be in the same ring with Foreman.
2:50 ????
Frazier had fought *TWENTY NINE* times at this point.
How did Frazier keep getting up? They don't make them like that anymore.
Frazier is a true champion. The word quit didn’t exist in his vocabulary. He was capable of getting back in the fight. His conditioning let him down. Frazier should’ve come into that fight at 203 to 207 lbs. He fought overweight and if he came into that fight with Foreman at 203 lbs he would’ve withstood that barrage & came back as he did with both Bonavena & Ramos bouts.
@@clevelandwilliams5922 I love Frazier. Wish I had met him before he died. He was a junkyard dog in the best sense of the word. This generation cannot create a champion like that. The culture has moved too far away from making men with grit like that in their guts.
@@clevelandwilliams5922 Hahahahahahahaha!!!!
@@ppuh6tfrz646 what’s so funny
@@ppuh6tfrz646 They stopped the fight because he was finished. He in his mind thought he could still come back. Secondly him not in condition aided his defeat greatly. Foreman could still beat him but if he faced off against a Frazier who took on Ramos. Then it will be a different story.
The left by Frazier at 12:10 woke George up and he must of said to himself, my God I just got hit by Joe Frazier I have to get him out of here.
That exactly what happened
George was the only fighter who could push Frazier around like this.....it is even more amazing that Muhammad Ali was able to knock a man like Foreman out.....THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!
Yeah it's like Foreman gets a bit anoyed when Fraizer tries to get too close and he just causally pushes him back and keeps on punching him! 😁
Gil Clancy (Foreman's Trainer for the Ali fight) tried to get George to come to Zaire several weeks sooner than he did for the Ali fight. He didn't. Clancy thought George never acclimated himself to the repressive heat, and it took its toll. I really believe the KO was as much from heat exhaustion as it was from the punch.
From the heat?.....Give me a break....it was from the skill of The Greatest Heavyweight of All Time.....the heat?....how about coming up with an errant hangnail excuse next time...
@@jp3923 Wouldn't the heat in Jamaica have been just as oppressive as in Zaire and yet Foreman won easily there? Just wondering.
@@jameshogan6142 I agree the oppressive heat in Kinshasa, Zaire would have been similar to Jamaica's weather....about 85-90 degrees with high humidity. I simply mentioned that Gil Clancy, Foreman's Trainer, wanted George to come to Zaire weeks earlier to train in those conditions. Ali did arrive weeks before the fight to train there and had to be more acclimated to the heat and humidity. A wise decision. George should have listened to Clancy. Frankly I expected Foreman to win and was afraid he was going to kill Ali. I have always been a huge Ali fan and was very happy that he won the fight. I have always thought he was the GOAT. An Ali/Foreman II would have been interesting. BTW I had the opportunity to meet George at the bank where I worked. He had a jumbo CD on deposit with our bank, and somebody associated with George embezzled the money. He was in the bank to get the details on who took the money. A friend of mine once owned a gym in the Houston Suburb where I live, and Lou Duva and his stable of fighters trained there for a year. I met most of Duva's fighters including Meldrick Taylor, Mike McCallum and Evander Holyfield. Meldrick and Mike were very gracious and engaging.... Evander not so much. I had the pleasure to attend the Ali/Ernie Terrell fight. I don't think the great Joe Frazier could have ever beaten Ali at that time in Ali's career. Ali was absolutely awesome.
No one in the history of boxing can do this to Joe Frazier, Even Louis or Dempsey.
Best stare down of all time.
LOVE seeing George being carried back to his dressing room!
This was the mismatch of the century. He didnt last 2 rounds, got scattered across the ring. . Fell 7 times. And to remember that Ali took the hits from Foreman for 8 rounds, didnt fall a single time and finally knocked out Foreman.'The toughness levels are quite clear here.
Sucks to see my hero 🥊lose😕
Same bro. It's painful
Fraizer was overweight for the fight. He was touring with his band by those times. Then he took boxing seriously again and beated quarry very bad
yes, he is my hero but I still find this fight to show off some of what made Smokin Joe so special. He never gave up and got up 6 times from arguably the hardest puncher in heavyweight division. Shavers may have more raw power but George know how to land bombs and could finish dudes a lot more effectively.
@@Ffeoli1039 Joe was all heart and to think no other fighter came close to dominating Smokin' Joe like Foreman did...nobody. George was just one dude that was too strong.
@@ssviking81 i agree. Joe Frazier was an awesome fighter and champion. I was never a fan of Joe's but nobody should doubt his greatness. George's style and brute power were just too much for Joe. No other fighter dominated Joe like Foreman did. I've seen some comments on YT that Marciano/Frazier would be a great matchup. Personally I don't agree. I think Joe would have overwhelmed Marciano and would win by early knockout or TKO. Rocky was the best in his era, but the best heavyweights from the mid 60s through the 90s would have beaten Marciano. ie. Ali, Liston. Patterson, Machen. Foley, Frazier, Foreman, Holyfield, Bowe, Tyson, Lewis, Holmes, Norton, Cooney, Lyles, Shavers, Quarry and Bonavena to name a few.
He is so wrapped up in jabbing Ali, he needed to worry about George. 🥊
Watching this after watching the Netflix documentary about Foreman. What a beast! Forman vs Tyson i their primes, who would winy moneys on foreman. I think Tyson would struggle with Foreman’s height as Frazier did.
Joe Frazier was a great champ.humble man
Whose idea was it to put stills over the video? Sorry tging to do.
Frazier was the only fighter who ever went after George, and really paid, but what guts - just kept getting up!
1 Tomrider ...Joseph William Frazier was already damaged goods after fighting Ali. Former increased more damaged on Frazier. Both the latter and Ali should have retired after "The Thrilla in Manila."
George Foreman always said he was scared, but even at the weigh in I couldn’t tell..
I agree. I think George was just being respectful of Joe.
@@jp3923 George Foreman learnt that state from the 1st intimidator in Sonny Liston.
@@clevelandwilliams5922 Thank you, Cleveland, for taking the time to comment. If anybody should know, it would be you. You fought Sonny twice and broke his nose. I followed your career closely, and you dodged nobody. You were a terrific ring warrior and fought the best heavyweights of your era. Your ring record of 80 wins, 13 losses and 5 draws speaks for itself. You were a tremendous fighter. I hope your health is ok.
@@jp3923thanks but Williams passed away in 1999. I am a supporter of this great mans achievements
@@clevelandwilliams5922 I didn't know it. Thanks for letting me know. RIP Cleveland.
Great video! 5:13 "Frasier since his bout with Ali has only fought nobodies" I don't think a commentator should call anyone a nobody. It's derogatory and also very subjective. The nobodies were Ron Stander and Terry Daniels who were in the middle of their career with a combined record of 51-5-2.
2:07 'I've got to preach' - Somewhere even in the younger Big George, the stirrings of the gospel were there.
can you repost the fight without the weird images of them while the real fight is happening. i want this fight in HD
A great rapper a great mouth runner.
Those were the days, my favourite boxers were Ali, Frazer and Foreman. Boxing today just isn't the same
good fight george...🥊🥊🥊🥊
Foreman is heavyweight champion of the world !
Throwing shades at Ali. Ali always at people's mind
Frazier el mejor!!!!!!
If something was wrong with joe that night I don’t think he would have ever admitted it. He’s not that type to make excuses even if he had one.
Howard didn't tell you the fourth fighter to go the distance with Frazier was George Chuvalo.
Chuvalo was stopped on a cut.
The journalist got it wrong Frazier was 29-0 not 19-0
14:18 FOREMAN IS GOING ABOUT HIS JOB AND FRAZIER IS DOWN AGAIN AND HE MAY HE FINIS..NO HE IS RISING AGAIN LOL epic
I remember during cosells interviee with Frazier, he asked yank duram to turn Frazier around to face the camera, yank refused to have Frazier turn around, cosell new bo low
It was over in the 1st round!!!
I remember this in 1973. Maybe it was Wide World of Sports delayed, I can’t remember . But it’s hard to watch. He just beat him up.
That fight should've been called in the first round
Bang on the money. The referring was absolutly pathetic
Mr. Cosell the great one!
Joe fought Ali in '71 at 203.
There is no such thing as a nobody in boxing. It takeszeriohs guts to get into a ring, knowing gbst the other guy wants to tear your head off.
Hard to believe George was only 217 lbs !! Why did you ruin it with still photos over the fight ??
16:51 what a punch! lol
Even at this point Ali’s shadow still looming . We aren’t gonna be doing any rappin !
Your right, in the room or not Ali was just too hard of a figure to ignore by any1 lol. Ali got into Frazier's head from the beginning and never left.
@@lloydstanley496 Ali never got into Joes head thats BS
Headmovement from Frazier was quite ok, but he forgot the defense.
Joe overweight, over confident and under trained for big George. I dont know if it would have mattered, George had more power than any fighter Joe ever faced before this one. Plus as Joe said in an interview a fews weeks later, Joe said he was embarrassed and lost his temper, instead of tying George up (if he could) he started throwing back bombs and his timing was way off and George just kept bombing on his wide open chin. I still dont know how Joe got up from the 2nd knockdown, he looked totally out before he hit the canvas. RIP SMokin Joe, my favorite fighter as a kid in 1969 and ever after.
Frazier could’ve won if he had changed his tactics to a stick and move. Instead he thought he could stand in front of man mountain Foreman and take this bombs.
Joe Frazier could never "stick and move"
Foreman wins everytime
Damn joe is toughhhh he got up all those times like nothing, he cudnt be knocked out and had to be tko'd crazy
I loved Joe frazier, so, so, handsome, better than Ali,
I would have to disagree about "handsome." He may or may not be better than Ali in the ring, but there's no doubt about who was the better looking.
@@jp3923 I always thought Joe frazier was more manly and rugged, and yes more handsome,
Janet Jennings ...According to you!
@@brucescott4261 yes according to me, so manly and macho, Ali wasn't
@@brucescott4261 I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. No doubt Ali was by far the better
looking of the two.
Joes greatest weapon is his left hook and he couldn’t reach George. While he was in perfect position for George’s greatest weapons his hooks and uppercuts. As great as Joe was styles makes fights and George was to big to strong and defensively to good for Joe to beat.
DOWN GOES FRAZIER!
DOWN GOES FRAZIER!
DOWN GOES FRAZIER!
The best commentary call
In sports history.
Not even close
I think the only Joe Frazier who would have had a chance against Foreman was the lean, unstoppable Smokin' Joe who went in the ring March 8, 1971. That night was Frazier at his absolute best...fast...hard to hit with enormous stamina. Maybe that version of Joe could have survived Big George's onslaught in the first few rounds and come back to KO a tiring Foreman in round 7 or 8. Joe in Jamaica was fat at 214, slow and he had almost exhausted his reservoir of the ability to take hard punches. Their second fight was a travesty. Joe, I guess figuring he needed to be bigger to deal with Foreman's bulk, came in at over 225 for their second fight and he had absolutely nothing left, a bloated shell of his former greatness. This fight is still hard for me to watch even 50 years since it took place. Joe had a Manilla left in him but here, he was exposed as a once great fighter past his prime.
As I recall Joe spent a week in the hospital recovering from that fight. I believe he was at his best in that fight also. Ali wasn't, but he was still good. I saw Ali fight Ernie Terrell live at the Houston Astrodome ( his last fight before being stripped of his title) and I don't believe he ever regained what he lost in the ensuiing 2 1/2 years outside of the ring.
@@jp3923 ...Ali's last fight before his exile was against Zora Folley.
@@brucescott4261 thank you for the correction. I think Ali was definitely in a class of his own at that time in his career. By the way Zora Foley and Eddie Machen were outstanding fighters in their careers, and I often wondered how they would have fared against Floyd Patterson during Floyd's time as the world champion. I was a huge Patterson fan but always felt that Cus D'Amato avoided both of those fighters.
I thought the 2nd Frazier-Foreman fight was as bad a beating as this. George hammered him for 5 rounds, and the last knockdown, man the whole ring moved!! The best puncher ever? Gotta be George.
@@jp3923 ...Frazier spent six weeks in the hospital. Ali really messed the former up.
Say it ain't so Joe. It's so! 🙄
Frazier was bounced arround like a rubber ball. 😢
Smokin’ Joe 212, Ali 215, and Big George 217 lbs… Deyonte wilder 231, Wladimir Klitschko 240, Anthony Joshua 254, Tyson fury is 265. Good god, The current heavyweights are big as fuk
Now compare foreman punching against Ali. No power no snap or speed to the punching
6:55 if looks could kill
George Foreman never fought a fighter Like Iron Mike Tyson
Carlo Bien De Luna ...Tyson was also a one-dimensional fighter. The latter couldn't defend while on his back foot, and it's documented. Foreman would've cut the ring off on Tyson. The latter would've been knocked out by the former, inside of three rounds.
13:24
What's The Purpose Of The Still Shots While The Action Was Going On? That Was Unnecessary! 😡
Frazier Was and will be always number 3.
He's default ? AUTOSATISFACTION and no imagination
Joe had to keep his distance or he had no chance
A big, strong boy??
16:40
I watched all 3 fights between Ali and Joe, and Ali vs Forman also, but this fight was unbelievable, 1st round 3 KD and 2nd round 2 , game over, yes Forman was very powerful, but , i think either Joe was not 100%feet or he had some kind of drug, or the fight was fixed was fixed
The referee should have stopped the fight after the third knockdown.
Mismatch.
Foreman such a dirty bully!!
Ruin d da video with stupid pics😂
Foreman obliterated Frazier
14:42
Anybody think Tyson could of beat either of them🤔
Vince Preston ...No!
Frazier was a smaller heavyweight and a one dimensional fighter. He fought on the inside, exchanged combinations and hard shots. He had no real defensive skills because of his size, he just kept going forward. George Foreman was extremely strong and also a deceptively fast heavyweight. Was Frazier out of shape for this fight, absolutely, but even if Frazier was in the shape of his life it wouldn’t have mattered, George was just too big, strong and fast. If Frazier was 6’ 4” with the same reach, the fight against Foreman might have had a different result. A much taller Frazier would have most likely knocked out Ali inside of 11 rounds. But he wasn’t 6’ 4” he was 5’ 11” and that was the difference.
I hate George Foreman. He beats everybody in the heavyweight division. He beats Ali, Frazier, anybody. Ali holds and holds onto Frazier and Foreman. Foreman vs. Ali I really don’t like. Boring match!
Sorry, how can you say foreman would beat ali when ali literally beat foreman in only 8 rounds by knockout no less?
No disrespect, obviously everyone's allowed their opinion, but I just don't know where that comes from
He beat Ali? when? You must be confused Foreman got rocked by Ali made him retire for the first time
Ali beat the George Foreman and knock down him
Foreman beat Frazier but lost to Ali