I think it would be kinda cool if Arin started out with his "grumps" look, like Danny in the background, but as he gets angrier (or just, from song 2 onwards) he drops it and goes back to his newgrounds "Egoraptor" avatar. It would be as if his rage reveals who he still is underneath the neutered, brand-safe disguise he's put on for UA-cam. Not to discredit the rest of the work done here, everyone on the team has done a fantastic job for this mod.
I said this on twitter, but I truly can't believe people actually went and made this into a mod I love it, and the way it's made truly showcases the difference between Arin and Oney Arin still being in his newgrounds "Egoraptor" look whilst still being on the very sanitized side of Storytime Animators and his Grump friends shows how he can distance himself all he wants from Egoraptor, but he'll always be a newgrounds boy. It just sucks Arin has flat out thrown his friends under the bus and Chris was one of them, just to defend story time animators against a video that wasn't even meant to harass them, but poked fun at how bland and similar they all are to each other. The hate Arin threw at Sr. Pelo for making a joking video really was never needed, and the fact most Newgrounds people stood by Pelo and not Arin really spoke to the fact Arin ruined most of his past relations with them. It really shows to the fact Oneyplays is still a booming and successful channel whilst GameGrumps stagnates rapidly and has a history of controversy around it as they barely can grab a 5th of their subscribers anymore, and most older fans of the grumps say they're not really funny anymore.
Been watching Game Grumps since before JonTron left, and I gotta admit they do get boring after a while and they play games I'm not interested in, but I do find myself going back after a while and I find them funny sometimes, just not as much as before like you've said, though I love "The Grumps", their second channel, I've found those hilarious, it's a shame that it had to take them making an entire other channel to be consistently funny again.
I also really love how this is a perfect match considering its easy for Arin to get mad at shit like in this mod, while Chris is still joking and having fun and being stupid, like the time he met the same kind of guy in his Friday the 13th video with DD and J. Whereas Liquid Chris is in for the jokes, and Chris Chan is just taking things seriously
I've been a fan of GG since maybe 2015 or 2016 and I used to even dream of being part of their team. I like some of their series like Danganronpa and whatnot, but most of the old gang are gone, most of their spinoffs and shit are done, they don't make as many funny jokes anymore, THEY KEEP GOING BACK TO MONOPOLY AND WHEE OF FORTUNE, I love Arin and Dan but it hurts seeing what used to be my favorite cc's and my favorite channel become a husk of what it used to be and what it could've been.
Cool mod, I just don’t know why there’s an “Emerald” option in the “Options” menu and if you click it, it leads to a video of a bearded man wearing a purple cap bashing someone’s head into mush with an emerald.
Whenever I see Chris idle animation and then look at Jeff behind him, it feels like Chris is trying to imitate Jeff's pose, it's funny but idk if it's a reference or mere coincidence In case anyone doesn't know, whenever Jeff is in Oneyplays, Chris sometimes makes jokes about him, but most of those jokes is Chris saying the word "UGH" in Jeff's voice.
I love that they animated Dan giggling in the back at the end, showing that Dan is on arins side, but not really, like he's on arins side by default but Danny's pretty neutral in this situation
Interesting thing to note: Chris is, in fact, the more musical one of the two, despite Arin and his "raps" in a band that was just him plus NSP, who are also actual musicians.
Oney actually has a pretty good voice, he is rarely serious when he sings, but when he does, his vibrato is great. Plus his music has a very grandiose sort of thing going for it. I liked Arin for a while, I liked Jontron, his jokes were funny, Danny is... well... danny, Barry and Ross are genuinely kind people, and I’m glad Ross distanced himself from the Game Grumps. Chris’s friends on Oneyplays is completely opposite to Game Grumps, that’s why I love it so much.
@@vonnie0_0 I honestly wish Ross cut ties with Arin and rekindled his friendship with Chris. Slightly Artistic would truly be a reboot of Doodle Doods instead of just being the (admittedly still great) successor.
@@barstoolblethins8428 He makes more music for his game and I believe he also made some for Smiling Friends. He shares that with Spazkid. Actually, he streamed with him recently.
if theres ever a follow up to this i hope some of oneys rage moments get included too, like the end of the Croc 2 playthrough. or his little frustrations during the Crash N Sane Trilogy Remaster. it only seems fair to me, plus oneys screams are funni
It's because when Arin made animations he apparently got made fun of like Pelo made fun of the storytime "animators." Oney and Spazkid defended Pelos video when Arin got mad about it. And then phantom arcade, Tom Fulp, and Jeff Andelin are also here as they are OG'S who used to support Arin and all the others
@@superlazyboy07 Spazkid is there, that's nice . I think it's because Cory mentioned how Tom always supported Arin, but now he's back stabbed his old friends and joined the sanitized side.
I started feeling iffy about Arin ever since he chased Jon off the show because Arin chose to treat him like a "sidekick" rather than an actual friend. It took me a while to realize the username "Egoraptor" genuinely reflecting the person behind it.
If this were real life, Arin would most likely shout MOAR! in various octaves as Chris makes all the sounds he has made on the run of OneyPlays. The one with the most experience will obviously win. Spoiler: It's Oney and his band of Baloneys
@TikiToko Factual, Oneyplays is a lot funnier and alot more humble, Arin is a man child that starts shit with anyone who opposes him, and has said the hard "r" on many different occasions one of which was in an actual video.
It sucks not liking Game Grumps as much anymore, I really do want to get back into liking them but it really feels like they fed into the brand and public image of Game Grumps rather than the fun let's play aspect of it. To me oneyplays will always feel more grounded since everyone including Chris are very aware of the stupidity that comes with let's plays and will treat as such. It's also about how Arins acted towards others on the internet and how unapologetic he really is with it. I get some people still like Game Grumps more but I just think Oneyplays will remain as a somewhat superior channel than Game Grumps. Also SuperMega is legit too. Of course I don't know if the poster of this didn't except huge arguments in his comment section it's just that this mod is just a dream come true for people to spread their opinions.
This is a great mod, but I can't help but feel a pretty harsh stigma around the comments each time i see one of these. I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinion of course. I'm just saying things have been settled and done as far as I'm aware... unless I'm missing something lol. Well, I also may be interpreting chat wrong, anyways again, great mod.
This is mean. I got made fun of like this all the time when I made cartoons and it fucking sucked. It didn’t give me a thick skin or make me a better artist or make me think more about what I was doing, it just hurt.
On the left Ser Pelo, Tank Man, Alien Homind, Phantom Arcade (Dave), Pico, below pico is Meat Boy, Tom Fulp, Johnny Utah (Jeff) with SpazKid3D (Corey) in tow with the fabled New Grounds Vending Machine
The fact that everyone is taking this as an opportunity to shit on Arin grosses me out. Can't we agree that Arin and Oney both seem to be in pretty damn good places right now? People are so attached to social media drama that they think they can read someone's whole character based on some internet fights--it's pathetic.
Tbf the mod IS based on their public argument, it's inevitable that it'd bring up the topic of each person's flaws (or at least of the least popular one). That and the conspiracy grumps people are vicious
Arin has sown and grown a negative reputation by starting unnecessary fights, burning bridges that didn't need burning, and stoking MULTIPLE controversies. What he reaps now is a deserved status as another Internet Lolcow along the lines of DSP, Wings of Redemption and Ethan Ralph. He's the only person he can blame for this
@@sparxskywriter2589 That's another thing; y'all are blowing it WAY out of proportion. Comparing Arin to DSP is a laughable exaggeration; it's not that serious. Again, y'all are way too glued to stupid social media drama.
@@JoystickStereo Arin literally has joined DSP in having multiple fan edits of "This is How You Don't Play". You don't have to like it, but he has been given that crown and is making no attempt to change that impression
@@sparxskywriter2589 I thought you were drawing a comparison to DSP in terms of being a genuinely disgusting human being. If you're just talking about shit gaming skills, then sure, Arin definitely deserves crap on that front (heck, it's literally one of the selling points of Game Grumps; he _himself_ likes playing into that role). Any comparison beyond that is just reading too much into things. Some people hate Arin because of hypocritical actions and online drama? Sure. Others love him because of his generosity and generally positive impact on people's lives? Also sure. Painting him as some major bad guy over these controversies or whatever just seems so ridiculous to me; I really don't get it--he's just a guy who has made some mistakes and also done plenty of good things, just like most people you know. The only difference is that all the bad stuff has been exacerbated by social media, hence my point.
I think it would be kinda cool if Arin started out with his "grumps" look, like Danny in the background, but as he gets angrier (or just, from song 2 onwards) he drops it and goes back to his newgrounds "Egoraptor" avatar. It would be as if his rage reveals who he still is underneath the neutered, brand-safe disguise he's put on for UA-cam. Not to discredit the rest of the work done here, everyone on the team has done a fantastic job for this mod.
You're not wrong.
But yeah, FNF mods aren't always that simple. Not the good ones, anyway.
I said this on twitter, but I truly can't believe people actually went and made this into a mod
I love it, and the way it's made truly showcases the difference between Arin and Oney
Arin still being in his newgrounds "Egoraptor" look whilst still being on the very sanitized side of Storytime Animators and his Grump friends shows how he can distance himself all he wants from Egoraptor, but he'll always be a newgrounds boy.
It just sucks Arin has flat out thrown his friends under the bus and Chris was one of them, just to defend story time animators against a video that wasn't even meant to harass them, but poked fun at how bland and similar they all are to each other. The hate Arin threw at Sr. Pelo for making a joking video really was never needed, and the fact most Newgrounds people stood by Pelo and not Arin really spoke to the fact Arin ruined most of his past relations with them.
It really shows to the fact Oneyplays is still a booming and successful channel whilst GameGrumps stagnates rapidly and has a history of controversy around it as they barely can grab a 5th of their subscribers anymore, and most older fans of the grumps say they're not really funny anymore.
Been watching Game Grumps since before JonTron left, and I gotta admit they do get boring after a while and they play games I'm not interested in, but I do find myself going back after a while and I find them funny sometimes, just not as much as before like you've said, though I love "The Grumps", their second channel, I've found those hilarious, it's a shame that it had to take them making an entire other channel to be consistently funny again.
Crazy facts you're spitting. The only times I see myself enjoying the Game Grumps through their The Grumps channel
THANK YOU.
I also really love how this is a perfect match considering its easy for Arin to get mad at shit like in this mod, while Chris is still joking and having fun and being stupid, like the time he met the same kind of guy in his Friday the 13th video with DD and J. Whereas Liquid Chris is in for the jokes, and Chris Chan is just taking things seriously
I've been a fan of GG since maybe 2015 or 2016 and I used to even dream of being part of their team. I like some of their series like Danganronpa and whatnot, but most of the old gang are gone, most of their spinoffs and shit are done, they don't make as many funny jokes anymore, THEY KEEP GOING BACK TO MONOPOLY AND WHEE OF FORTUNE, I love Arin and Dan but it hurts seeing what used to be my favorite cc's and my favorite channel become a husk of what it used to be and what it could've been.
Cool mod, I just don’t know why there’s an “Emerald” option in the “Options” menu and if you click it, it leads to a video of a bearded man wearing a purple cap bashing someone’s head into mush with an emerald.
yeah, i heard its only for select copies too! mine takes me to a video of a man with a beard and ghoulish green emerald teeth eating an entire child!
Okay but imagine Danny Sexbang and Ninja Brian vs Tomar with all the Tomar Emeralds
Ninja Brian is waay better than Danny, as a person and as a creator
Tomar would definitely win. Literally no competition. Tomar is not of this world
I want Brian to throw ninja stars on the speakers like pico in week 7
Those Game Chumps stand no chance against an enraged Tomar at full power
Okay so Tomar, what if you come home and found your beloved wife Jaxxy killed by a ninja? What would you do, would like be upset or like?
Whenever I see Chris idle animation and then look at Jeff behind him, it feels like Chris is trying to imitate Jeff's pose, it's funny but idk if it's a reference or mere coincidence
In case anyone doesn't know, whenever Jeff is in Oneyplays, Chris sometimes makes jokes about him, but most of those jokes is Chris saying the word "UGH" in Jeff's voice.
Yeah it kinda is. Since Oney in this game can't say "Ugh," he torments Jeff by copying him instead.
I love that they animated Dan giggling in the back at the end, showing that Dan is on arins side, but not really, like he's on arins side by default but Danny's pretty neutral in this situation
Why'd you type that like it was for school or sum
@@acidickaikao4956What..💀
Where???
Jeff and his iconic Newgrounds vending machine that he keeps getting his beefy arm stuck in
“Ugh, I keep getting my baby fingers in the machine..”
after the 0:53 joke i wanted dan to softly whisper "barry cut that out" while they dont stop singing
5:35 actually cool that they animated danny laughing on time in the background
Yeah
"This isn't funny, it's just mean" 🤣
3:25 y'all I can't tell you how many times I had to replay this part before I realized this was a Philly reference
i just noticed that they gave tom fulp his iconic “ghetto booty”
I wished, but it’s just his hands in his pocket ):
@@HITARIX i still choose to believe…
@@HITARIX
That's his hand "embracing the booty within"
i love how jaiden is in complete disbelief
Flabbergasted ‼️
: •
"Another pale creature?"
"I thought pale ones were of the storytime race..."
@@wardenunknown Chris is actually a tan character with brown hair, blue shirt, blue pants, and blue shoes, but he got cancelled.
It’s amazing how I can still enjoy both of these peoples content despite their differences
Should have had Oney call Arin a "sea foam, gimp-lipped shell of a shadow"
I used to be an egoraptor fan, until he started showing more EGO than raptor.
I love OneyPlays more.
I mean...I love both people. I don't really watch either of em anymore.
You said it.
I love OneyPlays, because that one (y) plays?
god this sucks
Interesting thing to note: Chris is, in fact, the more musical one of the two, despite Arin and his "raps" in a band that was just him plus NSP, who are also actual musicians.
Damn. Where can I listen to Oney's music? I kinda believe it, given his tendency to make up funny intros to his videos.
@@Aflay1 Oneymusic on his SC.
Oney actually has a pretty good voice, he is rarely serious when he sings, but when he does, his vibrato is great. Plus his music has a very grandiose sort of thing going for it.
I liked Arin for a while, I liked Jontron, his jokes were funny, Danny is... well... danny, Barry and Ross are genuinely kind people, and I’m glad Ross distanced himself from the Game Grumps.
Chris’s friends on Oneyplays is completely opposite to Game Grumps, that’s why I love it so much.
@@vonnie0_0 I honestly wish Ross cut ties with Arin and rekindled his friendship with Chris. Slightly Artistic would truly be a reboot of Doodle Doods instead of just being the (admittedly still great) successor.
@@barstoolblethins8428 He makes more music for his game and I believe he also made some for Smiling Friends. He shares that with Spazkid. Actually, he streamed with him recently.
5:35
Oh that's cute, they even animated Dan laughing at the back
Ahh, the iconic yellow Tom Fulp. Great mod btw!
4:36 This part slaps.
FO- KIIIIING
FO- KIIIIIIING
FO- KIIIIIIIIIING!!!
GOOOOOOOD!!!!!!
The gameover screen is such a nice reference
this artist really likes teeth
if theres ever a follow up to this i hope some of oneys rage moments get included too, like the end of the Croc 2 playthrough. or his little frustrations during the Crash N Sane Trilogy Remaster. it only seems fair to me, plus oneys screams are funni
whens the tiny hitler argument gonna be a song
Yeah but oney didn't get nearly as mad as arin in the twitter argument
I just realised how Chris has newgrounders on his side while Arin has UA-camrs
well this Mod is a reference to the argument Chris and Arin got into over Sr. Pelo's Storytime animation where he parodied storytime animators.
It's because when Arin made animations he apparently got made fun of like Pelo made fun of the storytime "animators." Oney and Spazkid defended Pelos video when Arin got mad about it. And then phantom arcade, Tom Fulp, and Jeff Andelin are also here as they are OG'S who used to support Arin and all the others
Good thing that the real Newgrounds Tank got in the front. Jeff.
Bro really got snuck megalovania in there
The Unfunny
I like how spazkid has the same stupid expression on his face the whole time.
My 2 favorite creators rapping to the death, you love to see it.
Its awesomeness, but sadly no background Zach or Tomar
Erin sucks
@@superlazyboy07 they're the d-sides song /j
@@superlazyboy07 Spazkid is there, that's nice .
I think it's because Cory mentioned how Tom always supported Arin, but now he's back stabbed his old friends and joined the sanitized side.
4:36 best part, it goes so hard when the beat drops
I started feeling iffy about Arin ever since he chased Jon off the show because Arin chose to treat him like a "sidekick" rather than an actual friend. It took me a while to realize the username "Egoraptor" genuinely reflecting the person behind it.
Jontron has more subs than game grumps
"Arin, your EGO is on the floor"
"I guess I'm now just a raptor"
Nah it’s ok imo, Jon is mega racist, tho arin does have his share off problems, Jon is like actually racist
jon left on his own accord to focus on JonTron, Arin started spiraling a little after that. Too much time in LA withers your brain
I hate arin but I don't feel bad for Jon either considering he's a racist lmao
ah yes, the mod showcasing a battle between the still funni and the one whose lost their touch with funny entirely
If this were real life, Arin would most likely shout MOAR! in various octaves as Chris makes all the sounds he has made on the run of OneyPlays.
The one with the most experience will obviously win.
Spoiler: It's Oney and his band of Baloneys
This is a battle between newgrounds and youtube
Are we kidding Oneyplays is so much better than GameGrumps by a LOOOOOOOONG shot, and the mod creator definitely thinks so to.
@TikiToko Factual, Oneyplays is a lot funnier and alot more humble, Arin is a man child that starts shit with anyone who opposes him, and has said the hard "r" on many different occasions one of which was in an actual video.
@TikiToko No shit, my guy. Of course it's his opinion, saying "opinionated" is not an argument.
@Grum Slusher same here, the Simpsons Hit and Run vid is one I come back to all the time
@TikiToko It didn't need to be "corrected" to begin with.
@TikiToko but Arin did drop the n slur, and he's apparently not ashamed about it as he told in a podcast
Even if they don’t like each other I’ll still love ‘em both
The more I watch or play this mod the more I notice small details. Gotta love this mod.
It sucks not liking Game Grumps as much anymore, I really do want to get back into liking them but it really feels like they fed into the brand and public image of Game Grumps rather than the fun let's play aspect of it. To me oneyplays will always feel more grounded since everyone including Chris are very aware of the stupidity that comes with let's plays and will treat as such. It's also about how Arins acted towards others on the internet and how unapologetic he really is with it. I get some people still like Game Grumps more but I just think Oneyplays will remain as a somewhat superior channel than Game Grumps. Also SuperMega is legit too. Of course I don't know if the poster of this didn't except huge arguments in his comment section it's just that this mod is just a dream come true for people to spread their opinions.
This is a great mod, but I can't help but feel a pretty harsh stigma around the comments each time i see one of these.
I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinion of course. I'm just saying things have been settled and done as far as I'm aware... unless I'm missing something lol.
Well, I also may be interpreting chat wrong, anyways again, great mod.
Its Newground vs UA-cam kinda but not really since they both got their start on Newgrounds technnly
Newgrounds vs Newgrounds turned UA-cam "traitor" I guess
ONEY REALLY DOES SOUND LIKE ONEY HOWWWW IS THIS SO GOOOOOD
Kinda wish Ross was where GF would be (so between Jaiden and Johnny) cuz he still wears his Newgrounds origins on his sleeve
THE CHIMPS AT THE END-
Cool pfp
@@ritz-zyz thnx made it myself ♥️
Amazing mod, can't wait for the full release. Music and art is amazingly well done.
When is it coming out
@@sethsanchez7819
I have no idea
@@OrangePixelJuice ok
I haven't cared much for fnf but fir some reason I'm hoping this gets viewed by both parties
5:06 Sounds like Arin’s having a bad time :)
The Virgin Arin Vs the Chad Chris
Man On the newgrounds side I wish Isaac was there
I didn’t know he wasn’t until you just told me
Which one
Isaac dont want to hear that rap, cuz was cuss words
This is mean. I got made fun of like this all the time when I made cartoons and it fucking sucked. It didn’t give me a thick skin or make me a better artist or make me think more about what I was doing, it just hurt.
Arin and Chris getting heated about simpons lore
Homie vs Merge
On the left Ser Pelo, Tank Man, Alien Homind, Phantom Arcade (Dave), Pico, below pico is Meat Boy, Tom Fulp, Johnny Utah (Jeff) with SpazKid3D (Corey) in tow with the fabled New Grounds Vending Machine
NOOOO NOT THE ICONIC NEWGROUNDS VENDING MACHINE
Chris's vocal's do be fire tho 👌👌👌👌
Remember when these guys used to chill with each other. Good days.
this is a real banger ngl
I love how Jeff, Cory, and Dave are on Chris’s side
i was waiting for an oney mod for so damn long
I like the fact i know every character in the backround :)
It’s too bad that Chris and Arin hate each-other
Arin became a corporate shill... let him rot
@@FluffyIronGolems that's a tad fuckin aggressive
@@yungtobiii
Also pretty deserved after all the aggression and controversy from his own mouth
This is so goddamn good
4:44 *THIS SLAPS SO HARD AND FOR NO REASON TOO*
rare good fnf mod
0:53 okay I only just noticed it was pelo screaming (far left)
0:53 i am fucking SCREAMING 200/10 amazing
white goblin and other white goblin duel in slam poetry
i like how IceCreamSandwich looks like a shrimp in this
Ooh there is some of UA-camrs and i only recognize that guy with purple shirt as Sr pelo
And mid song it's just "Give it up ni- OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
They better play this on game grumps and Oney plays
Dang Chris really came back for a rematch...oh wait wrong one.
I recognize all the animators on arins side
That's impressive, can't name more than 4
@@ignaciograncesevero I see:
Jaiden
Shgger
SomethingelseYT
Rubber Ross
And
Gingerpale
Isn’t Sr Pelo An animator to
The One with big hair one Oney’s side
@@SainyThatKid Yeah, he is. Weird to see him look more normal than the others
@@normal_norm each animator listed has over a million subs, yet I haven't heard of any of them, except for Jaiden (obviously) and shgurr
I’d say I hope oney plays this, but it’d probably make him sad.
hey would probably just think it's cringe lol
Take it ez babe
this is better than og
4:45
This part slaps to me
i love oney, 10/10 straos
oneyng if fnf was really a matter of time
I wonder if they even talk to each other anymore since that whole drama between them?
Anyways, where is the secret Tomar emeralds?
I feel like Arin could use like a slight sprite change when he gets frustrated to really put a little bow on this mod, but thats just me lol
3:30 Arin gets BLAMMED :)
was that a powerdown reference I heard?
at 1:45
Por la miniatura pensé que era ecuadorean
Spotify when???
I like that people got mad at this lol
My favourite part is when Arin says "AH".
Like if you agree.
3:14 plant time
Dope, but it’s missing Geo.
I'm really floppy
same
Like a floppy disc?
Nyahaha Arin rage make a me lol
Is Arin on the right side because he always thinks he’s the main character?
Binding of isaac
PELO
ayo jaiden animation?
🤨
I don't like the idea of putting them against each other, and having sides be shown... but this was a cute concept I guess
To be fair Arin started it by throwing Newgrounds under the bus over a parody video
They put themselves against one another
Ultimate depiction of "Cringe vs. Based"
The fact that everyone is taking this as an opportunity to shit on Arin grosses me out. Can't we agree that Arin and Oney both seem to be in pretty damn good places right now? People are so attached to social media drama that they think they can read someone's whole character based on some internet fights--it's pathetic.
Tbf the mod IS based on their public argument, it's inevitable that it'd bring up the topic of each person's flaws (or at least of the least popular one). That and the conspiracy grumps people are vicious
Arin has sown and grown a negative reputation by starting unnecessary fights, burning bridges that didn't need burning, and stoking MULTIPLE controversies. What he reaps now is a deserved status as another Internet Lolcow along the lines of DSP, Wings of Redemption and Ethan Ralph. He's the only person he can blame for this
@@sparxskywriter2589 That's another thing; y'all are blowing it WAY out of proportion. Comparing Arin to DSP is a laughable exaggeration; it's not that serious. Again, y'all are way too glued to stupid social media drama.
@@JoystickStereo Arin literally has joined DSP in having multiple fan edits of "This is How You Don't Play".
You don't have to like it, but he has been given that crown and is making no attempt to change that impression
@@sparxskywriter2589 I thought you were drawing a comparison to DSP in terms of being a genuinely disgusting human being. If you're just talking about shit gaming skills, then sure, Arin definitely deserves crap on that front (heck, it's literally one of the selling points of Game Grumps; he _himself_ likes playing into that role).
Any comparison beyond that is just reading too much into things. Some people hate Arin because of hypocritical actions and online drama? Sure. Others love him because of his generosity and generally positive impact on people's lives? Also sure. Painting him as some major bad guy over these controversies or whatever just seems so ridiculous to me; I really don't get it--he's just a guy who has made some mistakes and also done plenty of good things, just like most people you know. The only difference is that all the bad stuff has been exacerbated by social media, hence my point.