The thing I found interesting with the Dracula rampage sequence in Apocrypha was that Vlad's vampyric nature legitimately could've doomed the whole world despite being an entirely fictional creation from popular gothic horror. The world of Apocrypha could've been overrun by undead monstrosities simply because Bram Stoker decided to write a book.
It’s actually funny because if Vlad won against Memed II he would have gone down in history as a hero with genius scare tactics. But because he lost, he went down as a monster.
The fact ORT become a Dead Apostle ancestor because He ate the original DAA then become one is too funny. Like, He just ate the DAA and say "Well, i'm somewhat of a Dead Apostle Ancestor myself"
It's a bit different in Remake. Nasu said he removed all the Ancestors who were only powerful (such as Primate Murder) because DAA must have something other than strength in his new setting. So the fact ORT is a DAA is because it is compatible with Idea Blood and ended up inheriting it.
On one hand the crimson moon possessing a DAA is what realistically happened. BUT, The idea that the moon gained the soul eater moon mouth and bite zelrech is way funnier
Technically he possessed a True Ancestor. He possesses pure blooded TA’s, especifically the ones considered “Brunestud” heirs (of which only two exist in the modern era).
My head hurts with how of the True Ancestor and Dead Apostles are integral to the whole Nasuverse. This Crimson Moon is an entity as well that can create True Ancestor and Dead Apostles as well, that is something would remind me of an apocalyptical event. When seeing the Moon turn to blood would signify the world end entirely. Nasu is extremely extensive with his story structure and lore with historical and fictional of Vampires. Also why did Nasu remove Nrvbqsr Chaos from the remake of Tsukihime does he plan on using him in the sequel or the routes with Ahika Tohno, Hisui, and Kohaku in the Tsukihime Remake? Also thank you for the video @Tsiah IV.
With so many characters with vampiric connection sith and Camilla , why aren’t more servants that can summoned that specialize in dealing with vampire.
Y’all know, what to do. “Insert TeamFourStar and CJDaChump quotes “ speaking of. Arcueid: Yes you see, booty is more important than food. Booty is more important than water. If I see a pretty little thing I tell them this. I like ya. Neko-Arc: SHE LIKE YA! Arcueid: And I want ya. Neko-Arc: AND SHE WANT YA! Arcueid: Now we can do this the easy way. Or the Haaard way. The choice is yours. Now-now I asked you a question Noel. Neko-Arc: WHAT YOU WANT LUKE!? Noel: I...I-I don't want to a-answer. Arcueid: What was that? Speak up now. Neko-Arc: I CAN'T HEAR YOU NOEL! Noel: (Speechless) Arcueid: Oh sounds to me you want it the Haaard way! (Release Level restrict) Noel: AHHHH!(RUNS AWAY) Neko-Arc: OH WHERE YOU GOING!? BEING THAT LITTLE FINE A** BACK HERE! (Shoots both her legs off)
Vampire is a general classification for blood suckers, while dead apostles are a specific type. So not all vampires are dead apostles, as there are the vampire servants like vlad and I think maybe Medusa, as well as true ancestors. But, all dead apostles are vampires.
yes and no. "Vampirism" as the Blood-Sucker skill , is indeed a more general classification , but Vlad and Carmilla are the fictional vampires , while dead apostles are the "real ones".
Sorta unrelated, but if the earth has different layers of reality wrapped around it, and by extension having a counterforce does this mean that the other planets of the solar system similarly have layers of reality wrapping around them?
ORT was meant to be a dead apostle but got a glow up into an ultimate one huh… nice. Im still avoiding moving up to the lost belts stories till I get at least thirty 4 to 5 star to sacrifice the ORT battle plus maxing out copies of the 1 to 3 stars
Hey Tsiah, I got a question. Is Material Transmutation magecraft considered as a branch of Alchemy? Because when I read the fandom and wiki, I noticed that there's a big possibility that Material Transmutation magecraft is actually a branch of Alchemy. If that's the case then doesn't that mean Shirou has a strong affinity toward Alchemy. Especially if you considered that the projection and reinforcement spells that Kiritsugu taught him are spells that came from a Magecraft that's actually a branch of Alchemy.
I've been wondering can a modern mage compete against a mage from the age of gods, and if so who are they? Like can touko aozaki compete against someone like medea or bluebeard
Aoko has true magic but she isnt even in top 5 mages in the world. You need to understand that ranking of mages in nasu depend on their abilities , knowledge and skills and not just power
Nay on the true magic. They could be beat due to Experience, Skill and Abilities Effects as mentioned above. It's kinda how Shirou can beat Gilgamesh but Saber and Hercule can not
Oh I see, Akiha is a deadman. Deadman as in Deadman Wonderland. The folks from that manga series that can control their blood in different ways and use them as weapons.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 Atlas Academy is a branch of the Mage's Association focused on the future and developing technology. They have 7 taboos, weapons said to be capable of ending the world. The only rule they have is to never let any research out, normally. Meanwhile, the wandering sea is a group that rejects any magecraft that is not originally from the Age of Gods. So they reject modern forms of magecraft, being on the opposite end of the spectrum from Atlas. In the middle, the Clockwork Tower is a way of developing magecraft to move along with the current day in a practical sense. It differs from Atlas because Atlas has that rule of keeping their tech to themselves, and the Wandering Sea only occasionally allows the outside world (or mages, to be more precise) in excluding extenuating circumstances such as the Bleaching of the Planet in Fate Grand Order. And they still only allowed outsiders in to an extant, hiding away farther in. Also, the wandering sea is literally a wandering sea. The organization with the same name is on an an island with the sea around it moving on the face of the planet like it's own texture/reality.
In the HF route from the visual novel and manga, it's even mentioned in the dialogue between Rider (looking like Rin) mentioned to Shirou during the dream sex sequence that it's not the first time they did it. Meaning that it's not the first time Medusa has had dream sex with Shirou and has used her magic on him before hand. Heck it wouldn't surprise me that she could've likely did that to Shirou during Fate and UBW routes.
Yay I was curious about that when I first saw it had to rewatch it multiple times. Then it came full circle when I remembered Medusa needed a mana source so yay.
Depends, a completed beast? The beast will win most of the time. An incomplete beast(the only ones we've fought in fgo)? DAA takes it easy, most likely. However, it would also depend on the match up. Like, even incomplete beast 3(Kiara) would probably ruin even Brunenstud in a heartbeat, but beast 4(Fou aka Primate Murder) could probably never win against a DAA.
you would turn into a vampire , form the fictional type. In nasuverse , there are "real vampires" in the form of True Ancestors and Dead Apostles , so when turned by them , you would naturally turn into another Dead Apostle with their own set of powers and limitations. However , Vlad and Carmilla would turn someone into a vampire from the books and novels , with the powers and limitations of said books and novels. And frankly , if you think about it , those fictional vampires ARE broken. They have a simplified ranking , if at all , rather than an overly complex one like a DA , from the get go receiving a myriad of powers.
There are ranks when you do get bitten. Whether it's a fake or real or a true one. Dead/Zombie < Gouls < whatever it was but slightly stronger and beyond that is retaining their sanity and memories or starting from zero to being a dog to being ready to bite their owners neck off.
Yooo what if a true ancestor loved humanity and became a beast too 😂 man op or imagine all the types fusing or all the gods fuse with goetia and all demon gods mane how would we beat that would be heat tho we’d need to fuse slash emperor , Excalibur, rhongomynad, ea , gaebolg , Zeus lighting bolt to even fight them
What will happened if magus went extinct? Like if they all died out or like what el melloi said with the advancement of technology magic will lose its mystery
This is more a conceptual thing, but it's funny to wrap your head around ig. But The Crimson Moon is the King of Vampires. Vlad/Dracula is the progenitor of the concept of vampires, but somehow not the strongest or the king
Honestly I've been thinking about making some Castlevania fan servants. And I'm having trouble with Alucard have vampire nature. There just no such thing as a half dead apostle.
Half Dead Apostle is an exception. Asides, there's more vampires that could reincarnate or having 666 lives and impossible to kill in one hit, unless hacks, holy means, or Ea, etc. I'd say Vlad from that game would be on par the too 10 or 5 Dead Apostles Ancestors.
For some reason tsukihime vn both og and remake dont go ibto too much detail about Arcueid and for some reason more of her lore is in melty blood, maybe the manga versions of both tsukihime and melty and some of the tsukihime spinoffs (but they were made non canon because of the remake). Also if the wiki is to be taken into account, Type Earth (Arcueid's true form) is the strongest being on planet earth and can play with the continents like ping pong. Arcueid also hapoens to be amoung the strongest true ancestors.
@@thirdplanet4471 The oj lore in tsukihime may not much be conon but must be similar to the remake version. Melty blood, well. In another timeline and universe it is still canon. The lore could be similar but the very fact that servants are in the game as well and Arcruied remembers being in FGO raises some questions. It may as well says that Tsukihime and Fate/etc can be connected now.
Tsiah I have a question for u why does altoria not get summoned with Avalon I get she lost it during her lifetime but plenty of servants who lost things in there own myth have it when there summoned like karna and his armor and achilles and his immortality idk if there’s a in verse reason for why it’s missing I never could find anything wanted to know your thoughts
it's due to Artoria's myth. She lost Avalon due to her duel with Accolon , it's integral to the character for the entirety of Camelot within the Roman Wars and Mordred's Rebellion , that Arthur possess the sword but not the shealth. And as it is summoned from the period of the Battle of Camlann , Saber Arthur/Artoria still lacks said shealth. In a way , it's like how Cu Chulainn lacks his geass , or how Mandricardo don't have Durandal.
The thing I found interesting with the Dracula rampage sequence in Apocrypha was that Vlad's vampyric nature legitimately could've doomed the whole world despite being an entirely fictional creation from popular gothic horror. The world of Apocrypha could've been overrun by undead monstrosities simply because Bram Stoker decided to write a book.
The Mat books actually state that if he did escape from the grail war and go on a rampage, he’d be as strong as TARTARI.
kinda have to say Anime Vlad going full vampire looks goofy compare to his manga version
yeah idk why they did that
@@PureWhiteOrganismthat being he's a minor plot point
Tsiah vid about him made it good though :3
Yeah cus we got to see the best version of him@@obicodanvincent2051
It’s actually funny because if Vlad won against Memed II he would have gone down in history as a hero with genius scare tactics. But because he lost, he went down as a monster.
Bullseye. This one statement is why I believe majority of "history" is BS
History is written by the victors
The fact ORT become a Dead Apostle ancestor because He ate the original DAA then become one is too funny. Like, He just ate the DAA and say "Well, i'm somewhat of a Dead Apostle Ancestor myself"
It's a bit different in Remake. Nasu said he removed all the Ancestors who were only powerful (such as Primate Murder) because DAA must have something other than strength in his new setting. So the fact ORT is a DAA is because it is compatible with Idea Blood and ended up inheriting it.
"The Moon?! Don't make me talk about the moon"
you know it's wild when you hear about people asking how someone got bit by the moon
Wake up babe, another epic fate video by tsiah just drop.
On one hand the crimson moon possessing a DAA is what realistically happened.
BUT, The idea that the moon gained the soul eater moon mouth and bite zelrech is way funnier
it's funny cuz I'm rewatching all of soul eater right now
Technically he possessed a True Ancestor. He possesses pure blooded TA’s, especifically the ones considered “Brunestud” heirs (of which only two exist in the modern era).
My head hurts with how of the True Ancestor and Dead Apostles are integral to the whole Nasuverse. This Crimson Moon is an entity as well that can create True Ancestor and Dead Apostles as well, that is something would remind me of an apocalyptical event. When seeing the Moon turn to blood would signify the world end entirely. Nasu is extremely extensive with his story structure and lore with historical and fictional of Vampires. Also why did Nasu remove Nrvbqsr Chaos from the remake of Tsukihime does he plan on using him in the sequel or the routes with Ahika Tohno, Hisui, and Kohaku in the Tsukihime Remake?
Also thank you for the video @Tsiah IV.
IIRC, Nasu said that Nero Chaos is kind of op for the new remake, so they used Vlov, that while he is weak in DAA standards, he is extremely strong.
With so many characters with vampiric connection sith and Camilla , why aren’t more servants that can summoned that specialize in dealing with vampire.
Would love to get a Van Helsing servant.
I want Alucard from Castlevania myself. But I'm having trouble with his have vampire nature. And maybe his NP.
Vlad is a pure monster and damn evenings tho he's not great in fgo. But when I was in Japan and I played FGOAC vlad is no joke.
Vlad is great in fgo. He is an amazing st arts zerker, who can loop on bosses.
@casteanpreswyn7528 maybe but after I got merlin all hell broke... ^_^
Y’all know, what to do. “Insert TeamFourStar and CJDaChump quotes “ speaking of.
Arcueid: Yes you see, booty is more important than food. Booty is more important than water. If I see a pretty little thing I tell them this. I like ya.
Neko-Arc: SHE LIKE YA!
Arcueid: And I want ya.
Neko-Arc: AND SHE WANT YA!
Arcueid: Now we can do this the easy way. Or the Haaard way. The choice is yours. Now-now I asked you a question Noel.
Neko-Arc: WHAT YOU WANT LUKE!?
Noel: I...I-I don't want to a-answer.
Arcueid: What was that? Speak up now.
Neko-Arc: I CAN'T HEAR YOU NOEL!
Noel: (Speechless)
Arcueid: Oh sounds to me you want it the Haaard way! (Release Level restrict)
Noel: AHHHH!(RUNS AWAY)
Neko-Arc: OH WHERE YOU GOING!? BEING THAT LITTLE FINE A** BACK HERE!
(Shoots both her legs off)
I prefer Project Mouth Wash but thanks for putting me on the second one
Quite the imagination
I SHIT YOU NOT last week I was thinking abt fate and was wondering what the difference was and thought about Tsiah doing a vid on it!
Vampire is a general classification for blood suckers, while dead apostles are a specific type.
So not all vampires are dead apostles, as there are the vampire servants like vlad and I think maybe Medusa, as well as true ancestors. But, all dead apostles are vampires.
yes and no.
"Vampirism" as the Blood-Sucker skill , is indeed a more general classification , but Vlad and Carmilla are the fictional vampires , while dead apostles are the "real ones".
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Sorta unrelated, but if the earth has different layers of reality wrapped around it, and by extension having a counterforce does this mean that the other planets of the solar system similarly have layers of reality wrapping around them?
Sort of, yes.
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I had to do a double take on the moon part lol
@16:13 lol, like the Moon from Soul Eater i'd bet 😆
loved soul eater. one of the few shows i feel ended far too early
@@TsiahIV Yeah... I always had that feeling about it too. I had eventually found out years later that there was things skipped from the Manga.
ORT was meant to be a dead apostle but got a glow up into an ultimate one huh… nice. Im still avoiding moving up to the lost belts stories till I get at least thirty 4 to 5 star to sacrifice the ORT battle plus maxing out copies of the 1 to 3 stars
ORT is also most likely the weakest Ultimate One out of all of them. Which is fuckin terrifying.
@@casteanpreswyn7528Notes was sadly retconned, so as of now ORT is the literal strongest Type we have
@@Gareth-daupsetpuppy that makes absolutely no sense and contradicts how Ultimate Ones form and exist. Guess I'll wait two years to see why. Lol
@@casteanpreswyn7528based on nothing. As per Nasu, ORT is the strongest in TM.
@@PureWhiteOrganismAdo Edem is insanely strong. That’s not really a strike against it.
My clairvoyance tells me you’re working on a Don’t Sleep On Mash
This video came just in time for me lol
Hey Tsiah, I got a question. Is Material Transmutation magecraft considered as a branch of Alchemy? Because when I read the fandom and wiki, I noticed that there's a big possibility that Material Transmutation magecraft is actually a branch of Alchemy. If that's the case then doesn't that mean Shirou has a strong affinity toward Alchemy. Especially if you considered that the projection and reinforcement spells that Kiritsugu taught him are spells that came from a Magecraft that's actually a branch of Alchemy.
Nice
Yusss more tsuki related vids
I think they may bring back this topic in future Ordell Call chapters, one of the servants is so Vlad look-alike
I've been wondering can a modern mage compete against a mage from the age of gods, and if so who are they? Like can touko aozaki compete against someone like medea or bluebeard
With True Magic, maybe, but normally it is no possible. Modern magecraft can at times not even affect users of magecraft from the age of the gods.
Aoko has true magic but she isnt even in top 5 mages in the world. You need to understand that ranking of mages in nasu depend on their abilities , knowledge and skills and not just power
Nay on the true magic. They could be beat due to Experience, Skill and Abilities Effects as mentioned above. It's kinda how Shirou can beat Gilgamesh but Saber and Hercule can not
There was literally an example when Touko fought against Faker, a mage from the Age of Gods. She held her own but lost.
@@kieranwrightstone2199 oh where can you name thr source pls. I really want to know it
Oh I see, Akiha is a deadman. Deadman as in Deadman Wonderland. The folks from that manga series that can control their blood in different ways and use them as weapons.
Heres a question kind of: i want to know more what does the Atlas academy do especially their connection to the wandering sea
They mainly build weapons of mass destruction. 8, so far, if I remember correctly.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 Atlas Academy is a branch of the Mage's Association focused on the future and developing technology. They have 7 taboos, weapons said to be capable of ending the world. The only rule they have is to never let any research out, normally. Meanwhile, the wandering sea is a group that rejects any magecraft that is not originally from the Age of Gods. So they reject modern forms of magecraft, being on the opposite end of the spectrum from Atlas. In the middle, the Clockwork Tower is a way of developing magecraft to move along with the current day in a practical sense. It differs from Atlas because Atlas has that rule of keeping their tech to themselves, and the Wandering Sea only occasionally allows the outside world (or mages, to be more precise) in excluding extenuating circumstances such as the Bleaching of the Planet in Fate Grand Order. And they still only allowed outsiders in to an extant, hiding away farther in. Also, the wandering sea is literally a wandering sea. The organization with the same name is on an an island with the sea around it moving on the face of the planet like it's own texture/reality.
"How does he get bit by a moon?", Nothing is topping that today
In the HF route from the visual novel and manga, it's even mentioned in the dialogue between Rider (looking like Rin) mentioned to Shirou during the dream sex sequence that it's not the first time they did it. Meaning that it's not the first time Medusa has had dream sex with Shirou and has used her magic on him before hand. Heck it wouldn't surprise me that she could've likely did that to Shirou during Fate and UBW routes.
Yay I was curious about that when I first saw it had to rewatch it multiple times. Then it came full circle when I remembered Medusa needed a mana source so yay.
Is the implication there not that she is referring to the scene from heavens feel?
I wonder what would happen if Gilgamesh was turned into a dead apostle after fate/zero or before his death. It intrigued 💡 idea
Beast vs Dead Apostle Ancestors
Depends, a completed beast? The beast will win most of the time. An incomplete beast(the only ones we've fought in fgo)? DAA takes it easy, most likely.
However, it would also depend on the match up. Like, even incomplete beast 3(Kiara) would probably ruin even Brunenstud in a heartbeat, but beast 4(Fou aka Primate Murder) could probably never win against a DAA.
Depends. Some DAA like ORT, Zelretch (Prime), Brunestud or Altrouge can take them down. The Rest would probably lose.
Extra Vlad VS ApocryVlad
So wait what would you become if you got turned by Vlad the 3rd Dracula ?
you would turn into a vampire , form the fictional type.
In nasuverse , there are "real vampires" in the form of True Ancestors and Dead Apostles , so when turned by them , you would naturally turn into another Dead Apostle with their own set of powers and limitations.
However , Vlad and Carmilla would turn someone into a vampire from the books and novels , with the powers and limitations of said books and novels.
And frankly , if you think about it , those fictional vampires ARE broken. They have a simplified ranking , if at all , rather than an overly complex one like a DA , from the get go receiving a myriad of powers.
@phantasosxgames8488 oooooh I understand thank you for the explanation
There are ranks when you do get bitten. Whether it's a fake or real or a true one.
Dead/Zombie < Gouls < whatever it was but slightly stronger and beyond that is retaining their sanity and memories or starting from zero to being a dog to being ready to bite their owners neck off.
Fastest video drop
Can you make a video on Arcuied and the ultimate ones
I didn't know the tohno's had haematokinesis
Can you do a dont sleep on Manaka Sajyou
Yooo what if a true ancestor loved humanity and became a beast too 😂 man op or imagine all the types fusing or all the gods fuse with goetia and all demon gods mane how would we beat that would be heat tho we’d need to fuse slash emperor , Excalibur, rhongomynad, ea , gaebolg , Zeus lighting bolt to even fight them
Van Helsing got some work to do💀
if throw my blood at the enemy well that consider me as a Archer Class ? O_O
What will happened if magus went extinct? Like if they all died out or like what el melloi said with the advancement of technology magic will lose its mystery
Could you do a video on the crypters, argonauts or daybit since i’m really confused by him and what he can do
Does anyone else find a Dumb that we don't get a version of Vlad as Dracula
We can say that the apostles are sick in character, they are stronger in view of the material shell and the most enduring for survival
Attempt 38 of asking you to do a video on white wolf's world of darkness
This is more a conceptual thing, but it's funny to wrap your head around ig. But The Crimson Moon is the King of Vampires. Vlad/Dracula is the progenitor of the concept of vampires, but somehow not the strongest or the king
Honestly I've been thinking about making some Castlevania fan servants. And I'm having trouble with Alucard have vampire nature. There just no such thing as a half dead apostle.
Half Dead Apostle is an exception. Asides, there's more vampires that could reincarnate or having 666 lives and impossible to kill in one hit, unless hacks, holy means, or Ea, etc.
I'd say Vlad from that game would be on par the too 10 or 5 Dead Apostles Ancestors.
Actually Shiki becomes a half Dead Apostle in Remake Ciel Route. Plus Rank IV Dead Apostles are pretty much half vampires.
how powerful is arcueid? who is archetype: earth? we never really see any videos explaining who arcueid is
For some reason tsukihime vn both og and remake dont go ibto too much detail about Arcueid and for some reason more of her lore is in melty blood, maybe the manga versions of both tsukihime and melty and some of the tsukihime spinoffs (but they were made non canon because of the remake). Also if the wiki is to be taken into account, Type Earth (Arcueid's true form) is the strongest being on planet earth and can play with the continents like ping pong. Arcueid also hapoens to be amoung the strongest true ancestors.
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The oj lore in tsukihime may not much be conon but must be similar to the remake version. Melty blood, well. In another timeline and universe it is still canon. The lore could be similar but the very fact that servants are in the game as well and Arcruied remembers being in FGO raises some questions. It may as well says that Tsukihime and Fate/etc can be connected now.
Does castoria beat the lion king???
Tsiah I have a question for u why does altoria not get summoned with Avalon I get she lost it during her lifetime but plenty of servants who lost things in there own myth have it when there summoned like karna and his armor and achilles and his immortality idk if there’s a in verse reason for why it’s missing I never could find anything wanted to know your thoughts
it's due to Artoria's myth.
She lost Avalon due to her duel with Accolon , it's integral to the character for the entirety of Camelot within the Roman Wars and Mordred's Rebellion , that Arthur possess the sword but not the shealth. And as it is summoned from the period of the Battle of Camlann , Saber Arthur/Artoria still lacks said shealth.
In a way , it's like how Cu Chulainn lacks his geass , or how Mandricardo don't have Durandal.