Congenital Cardiac Chaos - Heart Failure at 27 after Steroids - Ask The Doc

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  • A young man was given steroids by his coach and remains in heart failure months later. He joined a recent Ask The Doc Live Q&A to ask about his next steps to regain his health. Anabolic steroids are toxic to the heart and kidney system. Dr O’Connor has more educational videos on this subject, and you can join a Q&A to ask your own questions at www.AnabolicDo...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 94

  • @knunez9226
    @knunez9226 5 місяців тому +19

    This is genetic, the gear just accelerated the process.

    • @johnjay6370
      @johnjay6370 5 місяців тому

      yes and no! Gear could have been the trigger and if this guy stayed off his entire life, he might not have had heart issues ever or he could drop dead at 45 from heart attack, we just do not know. What we do know is that he is 27 with heart failure and did a blast for 8 months and 4 with TREN!!! We do not even know if he really took what he thought he was taking, he could have been taking other dangerous drugs thinking it was something else...careful boys!!! The guys like the ROCK have doctors that are always doing blood work and he is getting the best of the best treatment while on!!! we are not him!

    • @quantumfx2677
      @quantumfx2677 5 місяців тому +7

      We know zero about this guy's eating habits or other things that would play a role, even fake gear!

    • @knunez9226
      @knunez9226 5 місяців тому

      @@quantumfx2677 facts

    • @malcolmdcwwed
      @malcolmdcwwed 5 місяців тому

      @quantumfx2677 Dude stop spouting bullshit. Fake gear isn't going to cause heart disease.

    • @aran125
      @aran125 5 місяців тому

      Good point, likely very true.

  • @yenriver5255
    @yenriver5255 5 місяців тому +9

    The problem with steroids users these day is they use too much. Rome wasnt built in a day. Slow and steady and low dose is a safer way. Steroids should be think as an enhancer......do the hard work.

    • @DavidHernandez-yb5pz
      @DavidHernandez-yb5pz 5 місяців тому

      Yes but in order to get very big, the only way is up with the doses. I personally know competitive bodybuilders that are on 4-5 grams of combined AAS per week, along with 10-20IU HGH per day (most of the year).They’ve been doing this for over a decade, they get organ imaging and bloodwork and they are quite okay considering.

    • @CarecaRusso
      @CarecaRusso 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@DavidHernandez-yb5pztrue.. an trt dose do nothing gains wise.

  • @warsawjadore2740
    @warsawjadore2740 16 днів тому

    this is not typical, guy had been sick before steroids

  • @sebastianconstantin5176
    @sebastianconstantin5176 5 місяців тому

    i used roids, i actually had angina when i was off roids, cause i trained harder and used pre-workout. ecography revealed Tricuspid valve regurgitation. *The valve between the two right heart chambers doesn't close as it should. Blood flows backward through the valve into the upper right chamber. If you have tricuspid valve regurgitation, less blood flows to the lungs. The heart has to work harder to pump blood.* now im on TRT, and ow dose of aspirin to thin the blood

    • @Noah-hq5rs
      @Noah-hq5rs 5 місяців тому

      How severe was your TR? Pretty much everyone has trivial TR, so im curious about yours.

    • @sebastianconstantin5176
      @sebastianconstantin5176 5 місяців тому

      @@Noah-hq5rs 1 of 4.

  • @privatbruker5905
    @privatbruker5905 5 місяців тому +1

    is it possible to contact him some where to talk about the stuff after having this? without paying a ton, i tried to send him message on instagram but says he can't get messages there sadly

    • @bryanutility9609
      @bryanutility9609 5 місяців тому

      He has a website listed in the show notes

  • @earnestaksion5302
    @earnestaksion5302 5 місяців тому +7

    Don’t think steroids can do this at 27.
    This is genetic or vaccine related.
    8 months could do damage but not heart failure damage

    • @CarecaRusso
      @CarecaRusso 4 місяці тому

      Not even a damage unless very high dose.

  • @mehridin
    @mehridin 5 місяців тому

    one thing is listening to this guys incoherent ramblings when he's just babbling about steroids or whatnot - a whole different thing doing so because my life depended on it.. thank god it isnt me.

  • @JACKPOTTT777
    @JACKPOTTT777 5 місяців тому +9

    3 years and heart failure ? Give me a break even if u doing a vial a day its still gonna take a lot longer ... how many boosters did he take ? 😊

    • @ralphwarom2514
      @ralphwarom2514 10 днів тому

      It varies from person to person. Even a small dose can cause your heart to grow by 15%. Even just 80ml can do that. And that is from my real life experience. Genetics is wild like that.

  • @you7.8
    @you7.8 5 місяців тому +8

    I used steroids for 2.5-3 years. I decided to stop, I did a PCT and it's been 4 years.
    It was a good experience but I'm glad I was able to stop

  • @Ryan_DeWitt
    @Ryan_DeWitt 5 місяців тому +20

    A heart attack at 27 after being given steroids is an extreme oddity and definitely not the norm.

    • @privatbruker5905
      @privatbruker5905 5 місяців тому +1

      true, but u only hear about the guys that never had issues, i meet alot of guys suffering from same issues when i was in rehab. the problem is we don't use things that lower blood pressure, things that stops heart from growing, plac build up etc
      i made that mistake never again, also if bad genetics dont use tren xD

    • @wt8213
      @wt8213 5 місяців тому

      I'm 28 and having heart issues after a very conservative 6 month HCG dose. The endocrine system is a mysteries thing sometimes.

    • @malcolmdcwwed
      @malcolmdcwwed 5 місяців тому

      ​@@wt8213define heart issues. How exactly do you know it's from. Hcg?

    • @malcolmdcwwed
      @malcolmdcwwed 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@privatbruker5905 you realize it takes years for plaque to build up and your heart to grow right?

    • @johnjay6370
      @johnjay6370 5 місяців тому

      @@malcolmdcwwed Not on TREN!!!! Tren can really mess you up!!! There are stories form plaque build up before and after one cycle of TREN!!!! just be careful

  • @gcardenas7974
    @gcardenas7974 5 місяців тому +4

    I had the same issue ..@30 years old..I'm 34 now.....when I first found out something was wrong with me it was when I wasn't able to take a deep breath...went to the e.r. and found out my injection fracture was at only 10 percent....so I was put on 5 medications and given a defibrillator also..I still take my medication till this day and my heart fracture is @ 47 percent.....it's reversible thank God but I can relate to this😬

    • @Mastiff420
      @Mastiff420 4 місяці тому +1

      Looking at your profile picture can I ask do you still blast ?

  • @Pascal_-im9vp
    @Pascal_-im9vp 8 днів тому

    Very interesting to see. I’m in a bad position myself, unfortunately. I took steroids for 2 years, I’m 23 right now. My highest dose was 350mg of Test P. I used Clenbuterol and T3 for 3 Months. Sadly i received an LVH and my EF is only 50%. Now I have constant Pain and I’m Short of breath when doing physical stuff.

  • @darceytim
    @darceytim 5 місяців тому +2

    At 1m 17s the voice scrambler failed FYI

  • @alessioNY
    @alessioNY 5 місяців тому +14

    Guy probably had a bunch of boosters and the clot shot

    • @privatbruker5905
      @privatbruker5905 5 місяців тому +1

      i didnt take the vac and i had same problem mate, but recovery was fast tho 4-6 months and heart was back to normal only abit left heart size too much

    • @quantumfx2677
      @quantumfx2677 5 місяців тому

      ​@@privatbruker5905 what was you using?

    • @quantumfx2677
      @quantumfx2677 5 місяців тому

      I know one guy that had a heart attack at 33 years ago, he ate garbage foods was overweight thought he would go to the gym and started on steroids uneducated! This guy lived on Taco Bell! Just loaded with sodium! He was already on his way to have health issues had no business doing what he did.

    • @johngrady3532
      @johngrady3532 5 місяців тому

      I have to have four ablations Because of those stupid goddamn shots. When i'm only in my 40s never had a heart issue. No calcium, nothing. The shot's horrible vaccines whatever the hell they want to call them.
      I'll never take another one.

    • @brettymike
      @brettymike 3 місяці тому

      Correct!. Look how many people try and brush the elephant under the carpet.

  • @Jabroski-ke9kx
    @Jabroski-ke9kx Місяць тому

    Test only 7+ years, had low ejection fraction 45% but i was 35 when i was diagnosed. Have serious heart problem genes, my blood is always thick af i dont give blood like i should but i figure it eaither genes and the juice accelerated it or i had a heart attack and didnt know it

  • @thebroscientist8023
    @thebroscientist8023 5 місяців тому +2

    Great case report and advice, doc.

  • @privatbruker5905
    @privatbruker5905 5 місяців тому +2

    I had same, the left part of my heart did grow alot and pumping function was very low 35-40 somthing
    I also was put in Entresto 100mg 2 times daily and 3 other medications
    Heart went back to normal pretty quick but I didn't use near that high doses
    I did 500mg test and did deca as addon for 12-14 weeks took time off only using low dose test then I did 500 test and 250 tren and cycled on and off for a while and after about 2 years of on and on use i got sent to the hospital
    I'm fine now tho, on alot of medication and I'm on test highest I go now is 500 and I don't add other compounds I did abit of primo only but had feeling kow almost like a bubbling feeling in my lower right chest so stopping primo now and going to only use 150mg test for a while

    • @privatbruker5905
      @privatbruker5905 5 місяців тому

      Thanks for making videos telling us about stuff like this, alot of people think you get complications only at insane doses and after many years of use that's not true it's so diffrent from person to person

    • @snuffcore9686
      @snuffcore9686 5 місяців тому

      Pay attention to the 6:00 mark.

    • @privatbruker5905
      @privatbruker5905 5 місяців тому

      @@snuffcore9686 yeh i didnt do that tho, when it happend to me i went off everything and my natural test level came back but not that high.
      i personally think it would be better to use 75-100mg weekly back then but doctors here didnt want that, they think low dose test = heart failure too

  • @DavidHernandez-yb5pz
    @DavidHernandez-yb5pz 5 місяців тому +1

    Can someone say (ovid va((ine

  • @chrisbell8418
    @chrisbell8418 5 місяців тому +6

    Damn steroids made his voice deep.

    • @randel14
      @randel14 5 місяців тому +1

      😅

    • @davjod
      @davjod 5 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂😂

  • @brettymike
    @brettymike 3 місяці тому

    He would've had the fake rona jabbity juice.

  • @mariyanmarkov2342
    @mariyanmarkov2342 5 місяців тому

    It's not just because of the anabolics, guys. Everybody is taking nowadays.It's because of the so called coaches.

  • @Made-yv3gt
    @Made-yv3gt 3 місяці тому

    The only thing I can read are excuses from users saying that the patient who did things wrong. Just because they don't want to accept the reality of the danger involved in the use of steroids

  • @MasonDaniels-ef6mf
    @MasonDaniels-ef6mf 3 місяці тому

    Im 43 i had a bypass at 32 ive had 6 heart attacks ive smoked and did drugs mainly weed and acid and a little coke my last heart attack was fathers day last year and said my veins from the bypass are trashed so more than likely i will b dead in a year i think ive gotten to the point where ive given up cause i now i will never get a heart transplant

  • @mariusarmand4590
    @mariusarmand4590 5 місяців тому

    Heh, I can hear the guy is Dutch. Hope he's doing better.

  • @MartinTeerly
    @MartinTeerly 5 місяців тому +2

    How much genetics had to play in his case ?

    • @quantumfx2677
      @quantumfx2677 5 місяців тому +2

      There are all kinds of factors that would need to be looked at.

    • @MartinTeerly
      @MartinTeerly 5 місяців тому

      @@quantumfx2677 and how do we know he was ok before taking steroids

    • @CarecaRusso
      @CarecaRusso 4 місяці тому +1

      A lot.

    • @MartinTeerly
      @MartinTeerly 4 місяці тому

      @@CarecaRusso exactly. Steroids don't always play the main role 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @connorward697
      @connorward697 2 місяці тому +1

      75% genetics, 25% Tren

  • @VernCrisler
    @VernCrisler 5 місяців тому

    Did the guy not do any cycles and pct while doing the gear? He just ran them straight for months?

  • @rinzlerthehunter539
    @rinzlerthehunter539 5 місяців тому

    not even that much? damn

  • @Excessxve
    @Excessxve 5 місяців тому

    Comes with the territory. You either risk it and be the biggest you’ve ever been at the cost of your health, or you die a skinny nobody and accomplish the average goal everyone else has achieved. Your choice.

    • @cooparchive7857
      @cooparchive7857 3 місяці тому

      Or do it smart bulk the hell out of your weight than after you reached your wanted wieght go with only normal trt maingainin or bulking sport trt only cycle for the rest of your life or do well planned pct and afterward you can keep 70% to 80% of your physic..

    • @cooparchive7857
      @cooparchive7857 3 місяці тому

      Don't train and think ego hard no train smart.

  • @rockshoezzz862
    @rockshoezzz862 5 місяців тому +5

    When I was 23 my ejection fraction was 10% after an abusive tren, anadrol, test, some warm blast and was on for 2 years. Along with ast and alt was 3 thousands and kidneys were failing.
    I’m 29 now on trt. My ejection fraction is 65% and I do kickboxing now and cardio and heart is great. Everything else is good.
    I just take coreg now

    • @rockshoezzz862
      @rockshoezzz862 5 місяців тому

      Also lift now and back to 95% of gains being on just trt. Less is not more learned that lesson and got lucky nothing permenant

    • @Dylan38456
      @Dylan38456 5 місяців тому

      Did you have any warning signs?

    • @rockshoezzz862
      @rockshoezzz862 5 місяців тому

      @@Dylan38456 shortness of breath month before hospitalization, stomach was bloated, went to ET 5 times in one week then they finally figured out this is bad I was in the cardiac icu for 2 months and was told I may need heart transplant. On lacix , milrenonone, retaining water, after 2 weeks kidney and liver got to normal levels, heart took 2 months to get to 20% was told to get a pacemaker and ejection fraction would never pass 35% again, I told them no pacemaker I believe I will heal. Sure enough 4 months 45% and a year it was 65% I have not blockage, no permenant damage(other than I take coreg)
      Now I’m much healthier with everything I do and heart, cbc, hdl, ldl, blood pressure handles 200mg trt with good blood every time.
      I’m very lucky. Still blows my mind.

    • @jeffersonprice3800
      @jeffersonprice3800 5 місяців тому

      What is a warm blast?

    • @CarecaRusso
      @CarecaRusso 4 місяці тому

      ​@@rockshoezzz862cut out meat, it can help.

  • @bryanutility9609
    @bryanutility9609 5 місяців тому +6

    Did he get the Covid shot?

  • @user-xg8jn1zw1h
    @user-xg8jn1zw1h 5 місяців тому +10

    Did he take the clot shot? I can’t believe u don’t address the elephant in the room doc. Bad form

    • @alessioNY
      @alessioNY 5 місяців тому +7

      100% the clot shot. After being forced to take it in the military my heart been giving me problems.

    • @user-xg8jn1zw1h
      @user-xg8jn1zw1h 5 місяців тому +3

      Sorry for your troubles bro

    • @privatbruker5905
      @privatbruker5905 5 місяців тому +1

      @@alessioNY well i didnt take the shot and i had the same thing happend

    • @bryanutility9609
      @bryanutility9609 5 місяців тому

      @@alessioNYyou should be getting help, & holding the military accountable. Don’t be passive. Fight for your health & rights. Not that you need to hear that from me. It just makes me so mad I hate injustice like this.

    • @bryanutility9609
      @bryanutility9609 5 місяців тому

      @@user-xg8jn1zw1halso get a serious Dr. that treats shot injury they know what to look for