The Problem With Short-Term Relationships
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Married at 22, husband is 6 years older, three children, celebrating 32 years of marriage next week!
I am so sorry I read that as 22 years old, celebrating 32 years of marriage next week and I just glitched...
congratulations!
That’s awesome! Congratulations to you and your family
Congratulations!🎉
Congrats!
He mentioned a 'Sex in the City' dating life. People should remember that the star of that show, Sarah Jessica Parker, has been in a committed relationship with 1 man (her husband), since she was in her late 20s. In other words the character who many women see as something to aspire to, herself lived a very different life- a life committed soley to one man.
Yup. Not to mention, her husband is the complete opposite of Big. 🙃
Interesting. Didn't know that.
Sarah Jessica Parker was also 32 years old when she married the man she is solely committed too. She had her time to figure out what she wanted.
Maybe she's in denial and it's her way to escape a committed reality
How is that relevant to Jordan's comment? When he said 'Sex and the city dating life' he was reffering solely to the lifestyle the women had in that show, especially Samantha and Carrie, who did casually date well into their 30s.
I too married at 22 and my husband was 30. We have been happily married for 46 years! I also had finished University and had a well established career when we got married. We have 3 children and 4 grandchildren. It is a wonderful full life 😊
I'm happy for you. I hope to have something like this one day!!
That's beautiful
It’s more difficult to pull off these days…
@Kwildcat13 they're both adults. There is no issue. She didn't ask for your opinion
@Kwildcat13 I had never dated anyone more than a few years older previously to meeting my husband. I didn’t know his age immediately, but knew we were both very attracted to each other. I didn’t want to limit myself with age restrictions. He was the right man for me . ❤️
Loneliness and depression is what you get when you sleep around
However by unlocking loneliness and depression you don't unlock sex :D
Naahhh, it is not mr gonzalez, when you are really young, untill like 22 tot max 24 it's great fun when you do it save.
Idealy you can find your dream man or woman after that.
@@the_w189nothing fun about it.
As an incel, I wouldn’t mind that kind of loneliness and depression.
On a chemical level, when you sleep around you are releasing all these binding hormones/chemicals that are meant to attach you to someone. The more you release those chemicals pointlessly the more frustrated you become.
When my mom left my dad for another man, my husband and I went in for marriage counseling for ourselves, simply because we wanted to be sure the same thing didn't happen to us. Commitment is a decision we make every day! Also I highly recommend counseling, even if there are no issues. It was amazing and super helpful for making our relationship stronger.
I don't know why.....but I really wanted to see this 2 humans talking to each other!! This is gold for everyone obvy.. but more for younger generations....in my opinion!!
These*
No its lame, boring and These two are stupid.
Can you name the girl's name or channel please so I can find her? She seems to be an interesting and knowledgeable person just like Jordan.
@@AriyaFonsiTheLegendBrett Cooper
@@marie-clairetakura754I thought this was Ben Shapiros daughter
The girl dad we all needed. ❤
I wish he were my dad 😢
Him and Nick Freitas.
@@Tiltrotortech nope
@@charityscreams5366 Why not? I have completely different ideological beliefs than him and I would sit at his table. Seems like a cool dad and a funny guy.
@scottpageusmc I was just kidding, Nick Freitas is my age so I can't see him as a father figure. Also been married for a few decades so I'm good.
This is not your average 22 year old
No 🙀
Almost like she’s a completely Astro turfed Internet personality.🤷🏼♂️🤣😝
Not an average personality to find in most women ranging from 22 to 35
@@steviemicks7281are you just parroting a recent video
I tend to have original thoughts actually.
I always thought it was so stupid when kids in school, like Elementary school, would say they were dating. My mind was so black and white and to me, the only point of dating someone was to get married and who was going to date all throughout school?! I know that it used to happen but in this day and age, it is clearly rare. I never dated some guy just because I wanted to have fun. I would date him because I thought I would maybe be able to have a future with him one day. Or at least I was testing it to see if they were someone id want to marry
Amen, sister!
Courting is a skill. Childhood dating is a learning experience like play and sports.
@@robertanderson5092 maybe it once was but I don't think so. Because that would mean the person who had the most Partners was the most skilled. But I buy today's standards, we know that the person with the most part is usually the one who's the most unskilled. Otherwise they would be locked down
I feel this! I used to look at people my age “dating” and think “all of you are stupid. Half of you gonna have kids out of wedlock!”
@@TheJacali and all of those that have kids out of wedlock act like there was absolutely nothing they could have done to have prevented it.
I got married at 23, though sadly divorced 9yrs later, but marrying in my young protected me so much from heartbreak, promiscuity, emotional trauma & recklessness. Which for women has horrible effects.
This has horrible effects for everyone
Because unless your spouse controls you you can’t control yourself, or?…
They call those things "women liberation" in the so called educational institues. And the love the word "control" as you see from the Karen above
you're a walking joke. how the fuck being divorced protected you from heartbreak and emotional trauma? that divorce gave you more emotional baggage than short term relationships every would.
Thank you for your perspective. I learned from it.
I have a bro-in-law who spent his 20's sleeping with different girls every night. When I went to the bars & clubs with him, I was so impressed how easily he picked up gorgeous girls. Now in his 50's, he's jobless, not in very good health, and still lives at home with his parents. I'm really glad I stuck with my guns of pursuing LTR'S.
I have friends who slept around a lot when they were younger and now most of them are married/in long term relationships, employed and in good health. What you said proves absolutely nothing.
My best friend was super cool and popular and social in h/s, prom king, great physical shape, we used to train together, everyone knew and liked him.
He got married had kids, now he’s going bald, stressed, hasn’t been to the gym or done any sports in years, antisocial, and stuck in Groundhog Day till he can retire from the rat race when he’s 60 or something.
Meanwhile, I’ve been challenging myself outside my comfort zone, growing, learning about the world and myself, language, culture, food, nature, people (including intelligent, interesting male friends and yes, including beautiful women and I don’t just mean physically), generally experiencing my potentially one shot at life.
Unlike my married friend I have no money stress and likely could get away with not working another day of my life if I didn’t want to. I’m free to enjoy my time on planet earth whichever way I decide to do so.
Your story proves nothing
@@matthenley3886 Guess you didn't pay attention to the video. My experience is a reflection of what their discussion was about. You can't fix stupid.
@@jakeh2049 I wasn't trying to prove anything. My experience just supports this videos topic of the effects of short-term relationships. I must've hit a personal nerve.
In my 20's most of the men I met were very immature or an asshole.It's still the same thing now in my 40's and I don't know why. Relationships always took TWO people willing to work on it. Unforutnately, I never met someone who wanted to commit to growing old with me like that. Plus, who's financially stable in their 20's, especially without help from their parents or college financial aid or their friends/co-workers from Target also hiring them!
daaamnn , being 22 y/o a keep a deep conversation with Mr.Peterson is impressive. I am 36 and I would be afraid of dealing with that kind of responsability 😅 Good Job Lady!!
I was thinking the same thing lol
I don't think that was very deep. I'm stupid and understood pretty easy.
@@mattmatthew5834 😑.....gosh. There you go brother , especial medal for you 🎖️you are a Goooood Boy, clap clap 🤡
IQ pick at 20-25
@@jccuchvjvj it has very Little to do with IQ. It is how well versed you are, how you can articulate complex thoughts, how wll you manage the pressure of being in front of a camera, how you can handle errors and being judged by millions, how to be precise in what you want to broadcast etc etc.....You can have an IQ of Elon Musk and he is horrible in public speaking for example
This is a great Video. This brings back painful memories which i have been enduring. My relationship of 5 years ended 3 months ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really love her so much I can’t stop thinking about her, I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of her, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss her and just can’t stop thinking about her.
I am sorry about what you have been through. I have been through something similar and was almost depressed, till I contacted a spiritual counsellor who helped me get my ex back and hence my life back
Interesting. Who is this counsellor, and how do I meet the person?
Online, you'll find shelly renee white, revered for her expertise as a spiritual counsellor. She has the ability to reunite couples and promote holistic well-being
Thanks a lot. I just did. Impressive.
Ore a Jesus para não amar ninguém mais do que a Deus!;isto é idolatria- só seremos salvos se amar a DEUS acima de todos.
Got married at 23, husband is same age. We've been married 10yrs & counting.
Rub it in why don't you. 47 never married no kids dying alone.
whoa, you've been married 10 years and he's only 23 now?
@saullandiof5768 lol 😆 no. we are the same age, both now 33. We've actually been together since we were both 16, but we waited to marry after college.
@@r3games1985This is your second time commenting the same thing. We get it your life sucks. Why do you want so much attention lol
@@r3games1985😢
I really like Brett!
had a boyfriend for 2.5 years. I was 20 and he was 30. He treated me well and I loved his family. Looking back, as a 29 year old women. I’m completely confused. The amount of life and character development ive had in the last 7 years without him is insane. AND I’m still younger than he was. It’s bizarre. But he was clearly unfit mature wise for women his age.
No regrets! We all need to follow our hearts and learn
Jordan is my father figure
fatherless behaviour
@@handlebar4520 well duh?
That's a wonderful compliment
🎇?
@@handlebar4520not everyone has a father in their lives. Duh, dude. At least she gravitated towards Dr. Peterson as a father figure and not any other loud mouthed knucklehead that's masquerading around as "a wise, stoic man."
Her husband is a truly blessed man. A woman can either build a man to his full potential or destroy him, she she will make him whole. Jordan is such a brilliant man…
You have to be whole on your own. Nobody else cando it for you. They can help to make life easier but womans purpose is not to make a man whole. It is to make herself whole.
She'll still leave him in 5 years
I would be quite terrified having a discussion with Peterson. But it must be so much I can learn from . It must be amazing to be in a group of people who aren’t afraid to share knowledge and have meaningful discussions. Clearly difficult ones and exhausting. But being with people is exhausting anyway. Learning something while socialising gives it a sense though.
I had no idea who I was at 22. I hope the best for her. For some it works out, for others, it’s a big mistake. I thought that’s what I wanted at 22 with my long term boyfriend at the time, but now I realize I just wanted to play house.
Im glad Peterson clarified on men are NOT designed like that. I absolutely despise that description and find it an absolute insult to masculinity, men and God’s design making men out to be animals that is women tame. How do you justify that and then claim men are supposedly leaders, logical, rational and moral. But yes immature men act like this because there’s a difference in having a higher sex drive vs being designed to be an immoral animal ‘sowing his seed’.
Well, they might not be "designed" for that but the temptation for short term pleasure can/will arise. A much better way to put it is whether or not men act on that impulse is what makes them mature or immature.
Take it up with the creator as it is very biologically ingrained in men. Facts do not care abour your feelings. And calling it immature or using shame and insults or trying to guilt men into marrying a washed up Jezzebel at 30 is not going to work.
Women can also say it's ingrained in them to be manipulative greedy witches who will dump a guy in favor of a richer suitor, anytime
@@mekbebtamrat817 yeah no. You take it up with God and see how he will judge your degeneracy and insulting his perfect creation. Hope you repent from your ways
I was glad to when I listened to that part. That ¨evolutionary theory¨ has been around too long and repeated many times some people take it as science. It´s almost like a free pass to cheat. Hey, I did not do it, it was my genes!
Jordan peterson teaching by example all the time.
I have never seen someone who embodies valour and integrity so clearly.
Where the hell do you even find a woman like this these days? Absolute unicorn.
Hats off to Jorden for clearing her misunderstanding. I think it's not only her but most of young ladies even older ones belive that men are designed like that. Cause they were taught like that by the society in order for the benifit of men. So they can easily manipulate women. It's the best example for when Jordan said "Where men go, women will follow" Men say somthing for the benifit of themselves then these young immature ladies belive it and get used to living with those bs while bearing the pain.
Oddly, more "relationships" involve men* who are inclined to be promiscuous than involve men who aren't. It shouldn't take much though to divine why that is.
* I expect this is also true of women.
I have always had this desire and still do. You keep yourself pure and only date to marry however, in my life it doesnt lead to marriage.
You open and tell men that these are your conditions and what you want.
6mts - 1 year you find out that the character and values are not aligned.
Then you have to start all over again.
For those who met there true partners on the first try congratulations but its not everyone's reality
“Let’s talk about The most troublesome possible thing… so that would be women”
-Jordan Peterson 2024
He’s being facetious
He is absolutely right though
The kind of joke that's funny because it's so true
@@JakanMcCaucaugh-zf4chAll jokes that are good always have some truth in them.. So you are correct.
Quanto mais simples uma mulher; mais atraente e feminina será: mulher de verdade NÃO é problemática e complexa- o femininismo deixa mulheres esquizofrênicas.
Part of the problem is that so many TV shows and movies push the myth and engender the zeitgeist that a serious relationship can come from engaging in hook up culture- when in reality you need to avoid hook up culture to find a meaningful relationship. It’s more about people not knowing how to build intimate relationships anymore than it is about people solely wanting to short term relationships.
This is another very important aspect.
People don't know where to meet other good people.
YES! Girls and women are lied to on a regular basis.
The thing you need to realize is that, whatever you want to call it, we have an "aura" and an energy imprinted on our bodies.. and partnering with someone is one of the deepest most intimate way two souls can connect. Thus by not being selective with who you choose to be intimate with, or being shallow on evaluating that based on physical appearance alone, you are at risk of tangling your own energy with someone else's energies. We refer to sexuality as "purity" vs. "impurity" for a good linguistic reason.
Funny I actually agree with you on this view but come to a different conclusion.
I would agree that mingling energy with the wrong person could have a negative affect on your energy.
But in my experience most people are not necessarily “bad” and there are literally millions of beautiful souls with great energy and sharing that isn’t a bad thing.
I think it comes down to if you approaching this from a ego-derived taking and zero sum mindset vs from a more present-moment open and sharing mindset.
@@jakeh2049so you want to have sex with millions of people? Lol
@@jakeh2049 Mingling with numerous "beautiful souls with great energy" only dilutes the energy of that one beautiful soul with great energy who wants to commit to you.
I agree with JP's view of mature and responsible men.
I am 60, married for 35 years and don't mess around with women.
We have 2 daughters and they both married similarly serious men.
Always the men's fault, not the women for complying
@@TopperRune Marry for love? Yeah, actually me too. But what happens when love runs out, maybe after the honeymoon, the baby comes, the bills pile up or 18 months? We need something that last longer.
What an interesting conversation. Love that this lady is so mature in her decision. Though I am 22, I desire similar things. Sort term relationships will hurt any human being
Married at 20, my husband (reformed criminal mindset, etc) 36. 31 years and 4 children later.
One child a pastor (wife), one successful in the Navy, 2 well-behaved (special-needs) at home.
.. No grandchildren yet. 😢 ♥️♥️♥️
God is good. .. I have no interest in playing the field, and my husband got that over with to a point of loneliness when he was younger.
ngl the first time I'm a little upset it was JP that kept interrupting his guest (and not the other way around like usual)... She was taking time to create a good answer but once she starts speaking JP asks another question lol
Tbh I liked that, Bret is young and if you follow her she's not that deeply rational on her beliefs sometimes even sounding like a feminist in disguise (not saying she is). And Jordan getting her mid sentence caught her off guard in some topics so she can think them more thoroughly.
@@20thcentury_toyDr. Peterson does have the unfortunate habit of frequently interrupting various guests. It is one of his faults. I have heard of very little of Brett, and I heard blatant hypocrisy from her then and in the ten or so minute clip I heard of her chatting with Dr. Peterson. I am enthralled to see that someone else notices her hypocrisy as well.
@@20thcentury_toyI don't 🤔 nk interrupting a person mid sentence gets them to think deeper. It's incredibly rude to interrupt a person and is a low play but highly effective power move.
@@proudatheist2042you must be fun at parties, you sound very bitter
Father daughter relationship
I love this collaboration!!! Amazing!
Have been conducting my life with integrity, virtue and honesty. Life still has turned out dreadful. Alignment doesnt always work for some people. I dont think dating is a swamp, per say. I think its a mountain of shards of broken glass. Broken people creating more broken people.
It sounds like you had a very painful time but you seem to be looking in all the wrong places if all you see is shards of glass.
My life hasn’t turned out as I would have liked either. The older I get, the deeper my problems become and the more unlikely they will ever be resolved. And it’s a hard thing to even process because I truly believe we are in the early stages of a total societal collapse. I’m just one man…who cares, right? But watching civilization break apart at the seams…that’s a very serious prospect. I could theoretically fix my problems but I don’t think there’s anything that can stop what’s happening on a global scale. My only advice is to try and enjoy your life as much as you can. Don’t take it for granted. Because it can all be over tomorrow.
Turn to Jesus with all your heart.
Just gotta keep going and adjust where you fall short. But don't turn to Jesus if you think that'll solve your problems. Jesus didn't lift a fucking finger to save children from cancer no matter how hard they prayed, it's unlikely he'll do shit for you. You gotta learn how to cope with life on your own terms, and don't become complacent or codependent on anyone. If you want to find a partner, make sure they can fit In your life and you fit in theirs..and if you two can't fit, either build something new together or find someone else.
@@leotovar1185Agree, you might be attracting the wrong type.
I had just turned 19 when i got married, and my husband was 21. We have 14 living children and have been married more than 36 years.
what jobs do you guys have to be able to provide for 14 kids
@Sazig My husband works in IT, and I work night shift in the steel industry (this is a very physically demanding job! Im the only girl there!!!) I home school, grow our own food, buy items on FB marketplace or kijiji or do without, and don't go on holidays. Both my husband and I work extremely hard.
I call absolute BS. 😂 man the internet is hilarious 😂😂😂
4:16 out of context
Jordan: "Diversity?"
Brett: "No."
Probably means diversity of sexual experience
Based tbh
how many immigrants?
zero.
underrated joke
I'm 56, single, and a faithful, practicing Catholic. I'm trying to find a man of similar mind. There are a lot of game players out there and I want to date to marry. Praying.
Honest question, catholic here too. Why do you want to get married? You are past childbearing age. If it's for struggles with urges, you made it this long, why not continue? You could lead a life of service? Is it loneliness? Are friendships not fulfilling? If your past the age of having children I would think your life could be a gift of God's love to the world by serving your communities and that can be fulfilling. Normally marriage is to start families which is fulfilling and an act of God's love in service to your children.
@@Hunter-2689 I do serve in my church. I have friends. I want to be a wife. I want a companion. I don't want to "make it". I want to share love with a man. I married the first man I ever dated. He killed one of my dogs and then tried to kill me. My other dog stopped him. He filed for divorce and the marriage was annulled by the Church. He then stalked me for a year after. He died 2 years ago. He destroyed my life and it's taken me 6 years to rebuild it. I don't want that to be the only relationship I ever have. He mocked me because I couldn't have children and asked me what was the point of being married to me, so I appreciate you pointing that out. An honest question, have I provided enough detail?
@GinaLoriDuncan yes thank you. I don't want to put words in your own mouth but it sounds like you desire romance and companionship.
I always wondered if as a person ages and hormones die down if the desires for marriage are still strong and if they change. So thank you for the answer.
@@GinaLoriDuncanwhile you and I will never see eye to eye on fundamental issues, I hope you find the marriage you are looking for.
@@proudatheist2042 that's very kind of you. I know the definition, but what does it mean to be an atheist?
As someone in a long term relationship and had more short term relationships than should be legal, I believe short-term relationships change your brain to focus on finding and extracting value from fleeting relationships. It results in you not having any space for long-term thinking. That's probably why it's associated with criminality.
Once you're in a long term relationship you are able to plan your life 5, 10 and 20 years out, which will inevitably reduce to propensity to do something stupid and/or criminal.
Love that I can hear the many wonderful perspectives from Father to Doctor to Friend to Teacher. So wonderful Dr. Peterson 💛🔥🙏🏾
I am female and my completely honest answer to Jordan's question "why not promiscuity and one night stands" would be; Both of that is very attractive to me. Feeling adrenaline in veins, pumping up my ego seeing that I am attractive to males, enjoying the privilege of paid dinners, gifts... It is all attractive like sugar to me. But, I know the price of it. I know the almost inevitable consequences of that kind of living...and that's not what I want. That's not the price I am ready and willing to pay. My peace, my stability, my future, my moment in Space have higher value to me than several years of living on clouds of generally dangerous hedonistic illusions.
I agree. I love the idea, but not the price tag.
I’m honestly curious what you mean.
Your peace, stability, you future, your moment in space.
You feel you are losing these things or..? Can you elaborate on the consequences?
bro read a book once
I wish more people spoke openly and honestly about it like you are here - often there's this practice that if we don't want to push a certain idea or action, we dismiss everything about it as bad.
But to me the most effective anti-drug messages aren't the "stay away from drugs mmmk" but those that acknowledge how immensely pleasurable those things are, (in the short term), and how destructive in the long term.
Another side effect of this avoidance is pushes the addicts themselves away, whereas the above message starts to sympathize and relate.
I was actually discussing polygamy with a very close group of friends, and 2 of them were really thinking into applying that to their own lives and were kinda "preaching" the concept of not being locked in a relationship, and this video really paints my idea as well, believe that always searching for that sexual arousal and feeling with multiple different people leads to more instability and less control of our emotions, than finding a companion that you can share and spend your life with. I'm not saying it should be forever, as nowadays I find it more hard to find that partner after getting out of a 9 year relationship, but I truly believe we find solace and comfort when we get to share that with just one person. And I don't see anything wrong with only wanting to do that with 1 person only.
I slept around a bit in my late teens/early 20s. I slept with 12 women. Nothing I repeat NOTHING made me more depressed than casual sex. I haven’t slept with anyone in 6 years, I’m about to turn 30.
I have a plan to find a sweet little mama in the next few years who wants 20 children. That’s the dream.
❤
Get the feeling. Intimacy without commitment is like fast food. It hurts painfully.
Wants 20 children ??? 🤣🤣🤣😂. Funnily specific 😂😂. I just want 23 kids
@@pandoraelysium you’re on the money bro.
@@kingsleyokoye8791 haha well you want 12 kids you’ll wind up with 7,8 or 9. You want 20 kids and you’ll wind up with 12,13,14 😄
@@TheJacali 😂🤣. Ohh ok. Now I see your logic. And it's true. 😂😂
As somebody who struggles with that they are both right.
I'm lonely and becoming depreesed.
This is one of the best vid's from Jordan I've seen, having a serious talk with Brett on male and female issues. Brett tends to say things on her channel that is a bit uninformed, and it would be so cool (not possible I know) if Jordan could step in on respond to Brett's remarks on occasion, and test her thinking on some things, it would be so awesome.
Man what a great talk show wish the video was longer. Really enjoyed that
There is over an hour long video of this interview!
Brett has such patience!
There is nothing more beautiful than a man and woman working together for their future, for their children.
She's certainly a statistical anomaly compared to the peers of her generation and clearly wise beyond her years. The women who do opt for the Sex & the City route in their 20s will typically find out that their baggage will come back to bite them once they realize the time for finding a lifelong mate is running thin. Feminism has sold cohorts of young women the pernicious lie of prioritizing career above family, and many will only recognize that when it's too late.
Not everyone is fulfilled with a family. There are women who despise their children and wish they never became mothers. However, women who dare to speak such a truth face dramatic social repurcussions for doing so.
Honestly y’all make up so many problems. The truth is much more nuanced, if a woman is still single by 30 it probably wasn’t her choice, she just didn’t find the one by then. I know many women who found their partners after 30 and they didn’t spend their 20s doing whatever they wanted, they just happened to find their partners later. Not everyone in their 20s is going nuts. It’s not a dichotomy of virgin vs. the whore. Life isn’t that simple even though you want it to be, most people fall somewhere within that category erring towards desiring or wanting a real and true love and most things we do, dating or otherwise, are in pursuit of those things.
And this goes for women & men. Contrary to red pill belief which what’s her face is toting here, most men are not on the sociopathic spectrum and are looking for love as well. Same thing with women. Women are just more easily confused and led astray because they’re well, women. They need protection which this society offers none. And men tend to isolate themselves in their frustrations whereas women tend to be more outward. Still everyone is confused because isolating yourself nor only hanging around narcissistic men will solve the issues you do desperately desire to solve.
exactly, most women currently are extremly toxic, it's good to know there are a few good ones still out there
I never engaged with the Sex & City route. I was ignored and called "boring", even by church goers. Now that I'm old the only thing to choose from are run down, used up men who carry more STDs than a hospital laboratory.
I've just settled in my celibacy and accepted I'm never going to marry.
Love Brett and it's cool seeing her in a different environment.
I absolutely adore Brett and Jordan! This was fantastic!❤
Beautifully put. I think Brett has listened to fresh & fit, Andrew Tate and other influencers with the ideas that she proposed. However, Dr. Peterson definitely offers a different preposition to why this phenomenon happens, and is due to immaturity for both parties. Great learning experience for everyone. He is a gift from God to society.
Brett's views and intelligence never fails to impress me, shes certainly not your average 22 year old these days. Its no wonder she was drawn to a male who happened to be 8 years older and more mature then those of an age similar to herself. I certainly hope for the best for her in life.
women being attracted to mature men with more money and influence than the men their age as them certainly hasn't been the standard for thousands of years...
Mentally, they're the same age.
"Mentally, they're the same age."
In this particular case? Perhaps. But it's certainly a bad generalization to make in general.
That legitimately most women 😂
"It's not good enough to be right. You also have to be effective. The less connected you are to what is objectively true, the less likely you will be able to make decisions that will benefit your life, your family, and even civilization."
2:29 This is not true. Studies show that ideally both partners should be the same age, and after 2 years of difference the chances of divorce increase with each year you add.
My wife and I had our first son in high school. 27 years 3 sons and a grandson and she still takes my breath away.
And if you find someone who will wash your underwear and still sleep with you you keep them
i love the distinction that Jordan gave, it makes a lot of sense, and i Love the whole conversation, so wholesome. Who is the lady by the way? and whats her channel @
Whenever I watch JBP videos, sitting across from people I always feel like im there with them in the conversation. Makes my brain tickle and work to produce deeper thoughts. Always a good watch thank you!
Me and my fiance are the same age......first one actually my age usually dated younger women but I love my fiance alot
It’s a sensible move
I didn’t know she is 22, wooow she is amazing and definitely has a great future ahead 💯I am 24 and very much inspired by her❤
ENM & Open Relationships are the modern platonic equivalent of “hooking up”
IVE BEEN SAYING THIS wow it’s so refreshing to see someone else has noticed 😂❤
Platonic?
Side note: loving the framing and color in this interview!
Jordan doesnt let her finish
It's one of his fundamental flaws.
She’s not saying anything of use, she is a spoiled child. He is the only real adult here with actual life experience
He's testing her/may not fully believe her. He's a clinician. Seen too many people in his time lie to his face, so he is proding her. She seems to be as mature and true as she speaks.
Men generally want to dominate conversation by being heard. It's poor listening skills, which many women prefers good listening, particularly active listening skillset. It makes you feel important.
@@user-lt1jd1ye3vdo you know anything about her? She's anything but spoiled and dealt with a lot as a child. The fact that she's so balanced is almost surprising.
They fuel off each other; there conversation is compelling to listen to.
He’s a clever man but he shouldn’t wear a suit while he’s painting the spare room.
Good one
Lol. This one is one of my faves. Lol the jacket, I mean… 😅
Makes him happy, let him live 😅
It’s a Christian suit. But funny comment tho
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This conversation encapsulates much of Peterson's shortcomings. I quote: "We know the personality characteristics of the men who prefer one night stands, they're narcissistic, they're psychopathics, they're maquiavellian, and they tilt towards sadism". I'm not an expert, but I highly doubt that the correlation between all of these attributes is as strong as to assert, with such confidence, that he knows all of these characteristics of a man by only knowing that he prefers one night stands.
I agree.
He's talking about averages.
Now this is truly mesmerizing, two adult members of opposite sexes sitting down an having a normal converation. About sex and relations. In america. Thou i must say, intelligence truly have a pacifying effect on the conversation, not trying to constantly overcome one another out of respect, shure puts on an impact too. Imagine to sit down and participate on this life journey, telled by a young woman with normal values and a good portion of common sense. I said it before, and i say it again; if you could present 100.000 wonderful, intelligent, high value women like this for the young men in america, you would run out of them in ten minutes. Oh, and Jordan, is a king. No one could ever say anything else but that.
I'm 35 and the "girls will love you more as you age and you'll have more success" turns out not to be true, at least for me. And I'm in shape. Working on getting magazine-standards lean to maximize my luck but......dont waste time young men. Promiscuity may be fun for guys only if it comes to you easy. If you have to invest a huge effort to have one night stands, it's no worth it. Make friends and look for love.
Love this interaction.
I clicked so fast when I saw the title and Dr Jordan😂😂I knew I was going to learn a lot
This is like watching a peterson therapy session with Brett - and it's brilliant
Short term relationships are experience. I was in a 7 year relationship and when we broke up i was rusty and naive in everything related to dating
Should have been married, there's a certain favor that can be had within it 😪
@@WhispersOnLy Don't you think is it way worse having had to be facing a divorce instead??
@@moisesdiaz9852 yes
Wow good for you Brett, you are doing great and this was a great discussion.
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This was a beautiful conversation, thank you to both.
Thanks
I’m so happy to see an another women my age share the same morals , I deeply struggle trying to find friends/connections with people because I don’t participate/ agree with their life choices . I feel like I’m judgmental half the time but in reality I just don’t want to be around people who think meaningless sex is cool.
You are not alone. Look among christians, you have better chances meeting people with similar values.
so true I have seen it times and times and sometimes it takes a long time for women to learn to stay away from those type of man.
almost all men and women don't stick to a single partner these days so It's a beautiful thing when two people who truly wish to be that way find each other. I wish those people the best of luck in finding each other because it can't be easy.
@@smithers4420 I am not sure what point you trying to make if you not interested in being with one person it’s your preference it has nothing to do with my original comment.
@allisonstephypnotherapist I wasn't really making a point other than that stepping away from those types of people can be very difficult because almost everyone is that type of person really
@@smithers4420 if you believe that what it’s so let it be. My experience is different pretty much everyone that I know want to be with one person for the rest of their life. Like attracts like. What you believe is what you become. No judgement you do you. I’m just not interested in continue this discussion with you.
Jordan saying that mindless hookups and lack of commitment is constitutes being a criminal/immature man. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
got some new words already by only seeing Perterson talking for 8 and half minutes: Hedonic immediate gratification. 🤯🤯
Awesome, congratulations!!! ❤❤🎉🎉
We married at 22 and 23. Now have been married 21 years and have 4 kids from 20 to 13. We wouldn’t change a thing!
Dr Peterson, could you please give us a literature on promiscuous men (antisocial behavior literature you mention). Or could you do an episode about it? I'm a woman trying to navigate the modern dating scene and could really use guidance on how to spot the "bad apples". Especially since these people seem to be good at lying.
get to know him on the inside before spreading your legs
It's not that hard. Most of all hold on to what you believe in. For me it was my Christian values and morals. I first dated my husband to see if I even liked him. On the third week, I thought well this is where we break up because this is the week I asked all the complex moral questions and see where we align. My husband would keep amazing me by his answers. He wasn't a very opinionated person and I was. He really respected what I believed in and he told me I have a beautiful mind. I told him I was waiting until marriage and he told me that he would wait forever for me. He even would tell me to help him see things my way. He made all these little changes to please me. I never forced or asked him to change he just did. My best advice is it is so important to not get so physical in the beginning. You want a guy who actually listens to you and is a gentleman. Make sure you have the moral talk early so that you can still leave the relationship unattached. It was very easy for me to see who wanted me for my body and who really cared for me when I held on to my Christian values. A guy who adores you will wait forever for you.
I'd rather feel fulfilled, not temporarily satisfied.
She says all the right things but there is just something about her setting off all of my instinctual alarm bells. Sirens are blaring and I get the feeling that 15 years from now her entire world is going to be falling apart.
She was a party girl in college.
@@chuck1052 oh lol was she really?
Well, statistically, women who marry young are more likely to divorced when they're older.
How do you know that
Just look at Steven Crowder. Im always suspicious of people who want to broadcast their lives on the internet. Especially those making alot of money
Wow, I was able to be among a 100 people in the same room with Jordan. We were allowed to ask him questions. I am 43 years old. I was just happy to be in that room, and petrified that id be called upon. I see Brett, and she is so poised, and brilliant. Such a brilliant young woman. I never got called on, and i am still ok with it. I was just happy to be in the room, and the opportunity to raise my hand. God Bless, what a community this is.
Brilliant and spot on as always
😂 Dr Petersons suits look more like NASCARs as time goes on.
Short-term relationships benefit top-males.
How?
@@orpheusP The spreading of genetic heritage.
@@orpheusP It keeps their gigantic ego's intact.
@atheos5748 I wouldn't call having children a short-term relationship. And if it is, how does a man owing child support beneficial to men?
sounds like something a narcissist or sadist would say.
My wife was 23, and I was 35 when we met, married 6 years now, and they have been the best years of our lives. And our boy is the icing on the cake.
Yikes 😬
The Dark Tetrad traits 😶🌫️
As far as suits go, it looks bloody amazing.
The red and yellow is a clear indication that the Doctor has Class and personality, positively speaking.
How do you get married and have a career by age 22! Wow, that is amazing! Good luck to her.
dedication and luck
Connections the rest of us can only dream of
Coz she is ben Shapiro's daughter.
JP’s jacket is so dope
it's nice to settle down and commit young but it's also good to explore _for the right reasons_ (not loneliness. to explore yourself, to experiment, by connecting with different people). healthy stable relationships are way more work than people think and unless that desire is coming from a genuine place and you're lucky to find someone compatible in life and characteristic, it will likely just become another life lesson
The problem/trouble with this in your 20's is first of all, a relationship takes TWO people willing to get married at 22. They REALLY have to make sure that they're not fishing for some body else or "peeking on the otherside of the fence" so to speak. They have to I think, in this sense, REALLY know themselves and be able to decide that yes, THIS is what I want, at 20, 21,2 22, etc. in your 20's. Top that off with the skyrocketing cost of living, you and your husband just HAVE to be able to figure that out. .... Problem is, WHAT 22 year old has $50,000 in the bank or a $65/ $70,000 a year job right off the bat at the start of their careers??! Unless they are getting a lot of real help from mommy and daddy (and that goes the same for your husband or partner's parents), you guys will be STRUGGLING for some time, especially once the kids arrive!
I just love the way JP presses with questions. Brett is classy as always.
As the zen master says "we will see", look up brett 20 years from now.
Yeah A child actor, I have to say her prospects are not that great
@@20thcentury_toyhopefully her hypocrisy disappears. With being a wife and homeschooling all of these children that she wants to have, I don't see how she can maintain her show and starting in DW movies, unless she really puts her future husband and kids off to the wayside. I think her former colleague Candace Owens does that.
@@proudatheist2042 yeah I hope she makes the right choice, it's not going to be easy
I really don’t care what she does but I agree she lives in a privileged, simplistic fairytale world compared to the rest of us
@@proudatheist2042you again. Just because a lot of you are jaded, doesn't mean all women have to live their lives like you. Yeah she's lucky and might be priveleged from others, does that nullify her decisions and achievements in life? Nihilistic, that's what you and most women in the West are. I pity you.
What we want and what we get are increasingly not the same thing. There are so many well-meaning women(and men) out there that have been duped just enough to prevent themselves, and anyone who could be their mates from coming and staying together.
I like Jordan, but am not a fan of his new wardrobe. A lot of very interesting suits that don't match his personality. I'm sure they are expensive, but they look silly. They seem like they would be for someone more whimsical and less educated.
You haven't seen his whimsy? Wow =)
you don't believe someone depending on what they wear. us humans are so interesting
@@MusiicRoolz did I say I don't believe him? Very weird comment.
I'm pretty sure he's got a fashion designer telling him he should wear this or that. But IMO he should get a new designer.
@@salhal271i’d bet it’s his willful choice. he is creative and likes creative clothing. and cool suits are part of his personal brand
Well done!
A conversation between Jordan Peterson and Brett Cooper is something I never thought I needed, but I'm glad we got 👍🏼💯😄