Iceborne Fatalis is still one of the greatest fights in a video game I’ve ever seen. Despite the 30 minute timer sucking, the natural difficulty of the fight was absolutely perfect and forced you to use all your tools. Dark souls may have me pumping my fist at beating a boss, but Fatalis had me screaming my lungs out when I got my first kill.
Same here friend. I fought him every day like 6-8 hours a day for a week before finally getting him down with IG, by targeting his head with diving wyvern. After that first victory I went on to beat him probably a dozen more times with much less of a struggle. Mastering that fight, which is what was required for victory, is one of my absolute most gratifying experiences in gaming. Nameless King is pretty high up there as well but Fatalis is in a league of his own.
The pin in IB is also a nod to lure stating that Fatails melts hunters, armor and all, onto his chest to strength it. It’s also noted he stands on two legs to mock hunters. That’s also probably why he stands as a part of his pin. In short, he’s the Hunter Hunter who becomes strong by wearing the materials of the opponents he defeats.
In World it finally has a clearly-visible metal plate on his chest, which also gets hotter/softer during some attacks and can be broken. I figured they'd forgotten about that gruesome bit of lore from the description of I want to say Fatalis Crusts in MH1 and Freedom, but I guess someone remembered and gave it a huge nod in MHW.
I dont think he wears it be strong, i think its more of a mockery and kinda serves to show him as the antithesis to hunters. Where hunters respect all life and only take life when absolutely neccessary, and even after doing so make sure to use every piece of it to improve themselves so they can better serve the balance of nature via carefully crafted weapons and armor. Fatalis on the other hand, despises the very concept of life and thus especially hates the hunters who seek to keep it's balance stable, mocking their way of keeping balance, crudely applying materials willy nilly to his own body, armors that dont hold a candle to his own hide, an unnecessary destruction of resources and descration of his fallen foes. Fatalis doesnt become strong by wearing his opponents, hes not a hunter of hunters, that title is too specific for him. Hes an enemy to the very balance of nature itself, the only thing in which it seeks to gain from 'armoring' itself being to mock those that would seek to preserve that balance
19:03 "Hits extremely hard" is somehow an understatement. I was a Lance main at the time, so I learned the hard way that even his weakest attacks will chip through a max Guard Up Lance shield.
Lance guard up is joke. Lot of monsters attack chip away and knock back the hunter even with max guard up. That said i wont stop being lance main. Rise is much better in term of QoL and lance gameplay
MHWI Fatalis is still to this day the greatest boss fight i've ever experienced in any game. The way that fight starts with fear and dread, and slowly builds up to heroism near the end is perfect. I'll never forget the feeling of defeating this beast for the first time. Absolute banger of a soundtrack too.
yeah i was so happy to see normal form fatalis getting treated properly it always felt so bad how in generations which was my first encounter with him unless he was in 4 which was my first game and i forgot him XD and he just felt well....weak as in considering the story and hype about him he just didn feel like he was anywhere close to the almost world ending threat people made him out to be
Despite so many new monsters coming in with fancy visuals. Fatalis is STILL the Dragon that strikes the most fear just by MENTIONING its name. And after Iceborne, you won't have a hard time believing that the new monsters are NOTHING compare to Fatalis ' Sun-like flame. Safi is similar to Fatalis, sure. But Fatalis' face has the word "evil" written all over.
Fatalis in MH1 (PS2) was quite strong. Remember the meta with 4x Gunners, because the skin blocked nearly every other weapon, and combining endless amounts of Clust Lv. 2 with Wyvern Claws. A few times in the month the city merchant sold Claws and on this "Claw Days" everyone prepared their stuff for Fatalis.
Dont forget everyone had a full set of shinobi armor and used the vor cannon. Had to wait until claw day and use all your money to stack up as many as possible. Good times 🤣
Dire Miralis can come back since we have wirebugs now. Effectively requiring hunters to use them as a resource to get the hunt down as opposed to accessing OP moves.
plus with the KO mechanics of Narwa, where blocks get lifted and mini cliffs rise up when she crashes down, we could get some cool temporary platforming stuff for Dire Miralis.
He could but he still needs water to regulate his body temperature to prevent overheating. They'd have to bring him back as a variant. Unless the mad scientists decide to bamboozle us and give us an underwater combat title update just to dabble into it again and see how much the community likes it. Man, a guy can dream.
@@domp2729 Mmm, I definitely see that. I wonder if there's a better way to balance wirebugs... reduce distance traveled by each one? nerf the cooldown?
You know, it perfectly aligns with hunters themselves. In MH, hunters are, like, one of the smallest animals in the whole world *period,* even with their weapons they're just a tiny balls of whatever for almost any other creature, but hunters are technically on top of the food chain, consistently defeating the opponents magnitudes larger than themselves. One hunter is capable of defeating an Elder dragon, which in their world equals to killing a natural disaster. In MH universe, size *does NOT* matter. Knowing this, Fatalis becomes actually viable as the strongest force in the world, probably being able to explode colossal Dalamadurs in pieces with ease and tearing island-sized Zorahs apart or something. That's also why Fatalis is an actual full-blown villian of the franchise. He does one thing that all good villians do: he, while being malicious, reflects our heroes.
When fetalis was conceived, he was actually the supernatural one, as there was not much other supernatural elder dragon until the introduction of Kushala, Teo, Luna, and Chamelios in 2nd gen
Man I hope they master and pull off underwater combat for Gen 6. I still feel that the clutch claw and wire bugs are a concept test for a fluent underwater combat.
I'm shocked nobody has mentioned the major similarities between Fatalis and the fights against the dragon in dragons dogma, another Capcom game. The model, some of the attacks, and the usage of ballista in their arenas are all similar.
ua-cam.com/video/6pqhS-Kx2Jc/v-deo.html Minor correction: Fatalis' solo health is 66,000 not 57,000. Aside for that, you covered Fatalis very well from start to finish and put into perspective of the monster's evolution. Congratulations on breaking five digit followers btw!
I had to beat the mhwi fatalis with full power flames, so fun. I played it myself solo before I looked up stuff and knew about the bait for his fire breath
Dude, I frickin love your monster hunter evolution videos! As someone who loves the franchise and a long time player, these videos are extremely informative . I only wish you could share some tips on playing the old games. Thanks for all your hard work.
Excited to finally hear what your strategy will be for your evolution videos. Was wondering what you would do with all the sub species being in future updates.
Hey in the next video can you make The evolution of Deviljho pls because deviljho is my favorite brute Wyverns along with brachydios anjanath abiorugu giorugu duramboros Barroth uragaan and radobaan
@LoveSweetDreams they are. Both are in. I showed them. But that ultra heated crimson Fatalis is in 4U. GU has the standard crimson from other games. Still cool though.
I feel like without the 30 minute timer, a significant portion of the fight feeling actually difficult and tense would be completely lost. The monsters of MH usually only feel "hard" when you have to actively fight them the entire time, if you want to play safe, you absolutely can most of the time and this makes it VERY hard for a monster to down you unless they have some serious bullshit moves. There needs to be a time constraint to make you actually fight the damn thing instead of looking at it without any consequence. Fatalis, like Alatreon before him felt like a much more satisfying "dance" than most regular hunts simply because you HAVE to actively engage both of these monsters and learn their behaviour and patterns, actually becoming efficient at dealing enough damage/part break to take them down proper without letting you run around aimlessly while not getting punished for it. When me and my then squad took him down for the first time it came down to 28:39 or something, incredibly tight, but honestly it was the greatest feeling and I feel like the fight would have felt infinitely less satisfying without the time limit being there.
that is an interesting, and even valid, take on the time limit. To expand it, if you bloated the health values of any monster so that they just flat out took 50 minutes to kill, instead of the current 15-30 minutes they usually take, it would become incredibly painstaking. The panic of nearly running out would still be present, but it would feel worse because you just spent nearly an hour on a single hunt, and lost it. And then when you win, you're just tired of fighting it.
@@demonminer8093 Well yeah, usually nothing takes more than 30 minutes to kill even if you fuck around a little bit doing nothing. Most single monster hunts are over under the 15min mark, some of the harder ones might take nearly 30 minutes the first time, but usually they last a comfortable 20-25, less with time. Having to fight a monster for 50 minutes straight would sure be a nightmare though. I think the decision to limit the timer to 30 was definately the better choice in this case and lets be honest, most people just lost to carting instead of the time limit anyway in this fight haha.
@@demonminer8093 Reminds me of Gogmazios in 4U and soloing his urgent quest with the available gear at the time, outside of using insect glaive. About 26 seconds left while using charge blade-I couldn’t see myself doing that again, for reasons you described with taking on a longer hunt. But knowing that it was meant to be for multiplayer made hunting him very satisfying.
The timer (including the completion time for speedrunning at the end of quests) is actually an ingenious bit of low-effort difficulty management. The fact that there is not only a (very lenient, most of the time) time limit, but that you are being timed and having your time recorded, puts on the pressure to perform, but the fact that you actually have a pretty long time to do the hunt means that if you're struggling you can swallow your pride and go slowly.
@@vitriolicAmaranth Yeah, it's a personal diffuculty modifier depending on wether you want to perform better, sort of similar to how scoring games like, in my experience anyway, Ace Combat usually have long timers to complete the mission, but you have to put in the effort to get that precious S rank score. Sometimes a prohibitive timer is also needed though.
@@dantevic its because 90% of the players you see online in World are not ready for Fatalis, hell to this day I can hop into an Alatreon SOS and see the guy using Raging Brachy weapons lol
@@Carlisho OUCH... Brachy weapons are great, but absolutely not what is needed for Alatreon. Tho it IS funny to complete the fight with the Comical Ice Swordfish GS. XD XD
tell me whatever you want but I love old Fatalis. it's slow and easy to predict, but that's the point. you have to be perfect. it's attacks are all easy to avoid, but if you mess up you're dead. I won't deny it's really that hard, but it's Monster Hunter 's combat to the max. learing patterns and punish them, the "dance" between you and the Monsters and Fatalis forced you to follow it.
I understand that with White and normal fatalis, they have a unique and amazing arena to use with. But man, the crimson one? Is the worst, has the normal fatalis theme and same pattern attacks (also, he cannot move is head to launch strategic fireballs) only has a blast effect in the claw, launch metros and canalyze to launch more meteoros. The worst thing, the map, he resides in Ingel Island where you fight some EX deviants, Alatreon, Akantor and some challenging hunts, losing a lot of fun or challenging of fighting him
@@beerhoz4533 which is EXACTLY why they gave crimson a new variant in 4U. They gave him a new theme, a new design, new attacks involving heatwaves and lava waves. Regular crimson in comparison just sucks as you've pointed out. Idk why they didn't bring this variant to GU and only use his regular boring version 4U crimson Fatalis variant and 4U White Fatalis are my favorite. Iceborne fatalis I don't count cause it's just in a league of its own
True but you were also slow. We still dancing and fatalis still has the lead but now we are in a tango instead of a slow dance There's more chances of fuck ups and we still get 70% of our health taken away for it
Iceborne Fatalis is probably in my top 5 boss fights of all time. It’s a perfectly written, perfectly choreographed, and perfectly presented three act story about a hero and a monster. It just feels timeless and perfect in almost every way, despite how hard it is.
A monster that I would love to come back that is from MH4U is Dalamader, one of the Urgent quests to unlock G rank in that game. It does have its own area but the fight itself was very fun imo
Absolutely banging video heavy wings. Been with you since 1k subs. I consider your monster evolution videos best in-class. This vid is probably your best yet. Congrats on 10k and can't wait to see what you put out next!
I still think Alatreon was to be Iceborne final boss, with a much larger story than what we had, but the 15 years artwork came and the feedback was so huge Capcom had to make him come, they even said he wasn't planned at all, I would have loved to see what they would have done with Alatreon Though Iceborne Fatalis is a pure Masterclass in every aspect
I thought they did a great job with Alatreon as well, that fight is pretty much tied with Fatalis for me in terms of how enjoyable it is. Fatalis was definitely more challenging for me personally, but once you learned the mechanics and how to read Alatreon’s moveset, that fight is beautiful dance like no other IMO.
The thing I like about Fatalis the most is the lore behind it. Some of my favorite lore involving Fatty is the giant great sword in Poke village. This giant sword implies that at some point in history, a Fatalis was slain before. Theres also the fact that this sword regenerates after mining from it, which could mean that the sword and scales and stones off of it are all still alive. This also leads into the theories that the gear we make from Fatalis parts are also alive which can explain why they so strong. (In Iceborne at least, in the older games the fatty family's gear was a mixed bag depending on which version of fatty and the game.) I really believe that half of what makes Fatalis really stand out is the lore. I think world did a poor job explaining the things what Really makes him special, such as the fact that Fatalis only shows up when humanity starts to have to much of a grip over nature, and it specifically targeting humanity could hint toward it being sentient. Without the lore, hes just a dragon that likes to breath a lot of fire, I prefer Alatreon over fatty any way.
I remember when Iceborne Fatalis first came out I streamed it for a few friends and mentioned that I'd been throwing myself against him for over a day now. They were like "that doesn't sound fun". That got me thinking. I WAS having fun. Only a game like Monster Hunter could give you a challenge like that and have it still feel fair, and not just that, make it something I want to play more of. I want to see 4U's G-rank crimson fatty back again, too. His heat waves and the sun flares made him really visually impressive. I hope later Monster Hunter games give Fatalis the respect he deserves and not just throw in fatty back as content padding.
Remember the first solo fight against a Fatalis is because he's the final boss of funny egg subplot because one of the egg we delivered hatched. Also to explain the difference between the two crimson fatalis, maybe the first is not completely adult because he hatched not long ago but there's also a fan theory that the G-rank one is the fatalis from the first game.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks Fatalis in Iceborne is a really well designed fight. It genuinely annoys me that people say it's an unfair fight when it's only unfair if you go in unpreparedm very much like Alatreon who I think was designed in a way to say "Hey, you need to learn the monster and prepare accordingly." so that people would have that mindset ready for Fatalis.
I feel like dire derserves to be in a new gen game, dire has a lot of great moves even though some are fatalis but with the new era, he can get more of his owns
this is an amazing video and really interesting to see the evolution of the monster itself and the fight but all i can focus on is you being a skulduggery fan with that palico name
keep in mind despite crimson fatalis being at the end of village high rank in 4 ultimate it's by doing a greulling tasks known as egg quests and on top of that apparently it's a recently born fatalis too.
My problem with iceborne fatalis is not that he has a massive health pool, or that he hits hard, but its not tight enough. His hitboxes are decent but because of how tight the fight is, the occasional hit/death due to bad hitboxes stings WAYY MORE than it normally does, and the fact he sometimes just attacks in a way as to not give you any chance to do anything, and you die a bullshit death, that really sours the whole 'only the best players' thing, because at this point it stops being about skill and instead its about luck.... Edit: 19:40 Also moments like that, simply being attached to him will pin you for no reason, even though i wasnt under him
the artificial difficulty argument is fair, but at the same time if it was a full 50min fight then he'd likely be given 80k health, the fight is supposed to reach those final 5 minutes by design i think. perhaps it's that it ends with the times out screen instead of say a super fire breath or something, so it feels like the game saying no as opposed to the monster beating you. honestly i think it serves to help the battle, like step one is learn his moves, step 2 learn when is safe to attack, step 3 learn about the horns, step four realize there's no way to do it in the time limit, step 5 learn to create openings and attack him when he's attacking so there's no down time, step 6 repeat until almost perfect. on the run you beat him you will barely cart and be in the zone the whole time, making every opportunity count and baiting the moves you want, it's my favorite fight for that, you have to almost master it to beat it, and you feel like you earned that adulation at the end, and the rewards for beating him are super worth it, it's completely and utterly satisfying in every way.
EX White Fatalis in generations ultimate is such a challenge, and is required to make most of the best meta sets. That fight alone and all of the amped up event fatalis quests make generation's fatalis the best for me.
Tbh, I think Crismon is gonna be Sunbreak’s final TU Boss. It makes sense, really. Iceborne: Fatalis/Alatreon Sunbreak: Crismon Fatalis/Something new perhaps MH6/New game: White Fatalis/Dire Miralis
Console exclusive was the biggest enemy for hunters, from ps2 to psp to the wii to the 3DS, I was a little kid with no money, I wish I could have played them
I remember in the 1st MH the basic strat was for everyone in the group to run bow guns because it was too much of a liability to get anywhere near him.
How the hell will capcom top iceborne fatalis when they get to introduce the other 2? like how can you make them more challenging without hitting stupid and unfair territory?
Fatalis was possible to to finish in a single run in the First MH game. You had to have 4 players with heavy bowguns (perferably the fatalis heavy bowgun) and you had everyone bring Clust lv2 and the matierals to craft clust lvl2 and the combo books to get 100% craft rate. You could bring 99 of both materials (small bone husk and wyvern claw, both of which were able to be purchased from the merchant).
In lore, couldn't fatalis set the entire world aflame if he really felt like it? The life of every non elder dragon and most likely a lot of elder dragons is dependant on this guy going, "nah too much effort"
I thought Bulldrome was a variant of Fatalis? A bit upset about the lack of the boss with the most difficult moveset. But I guess I can't really complain, you did make a video dedicated to the godless deity Bulldrome.
G Rank Crimson Fatalis in MH4U was one of my favorite multiplayer experiences ever. Iceborne Fatalis was a better fight, but I’ll always prefer G Rank Crimson.
Sad you didn't get to touch on the Frontier Exclusive versions of Fatalis from G rank because they're all really cool, but Frontier isn't exactly the easiest game to get ahold of
Ive been playing monster hunter for 8 years and i havent fought any fatalis. But by just watching this video is making me want to buy iceborne. Its scares me and excite at the same time.
So for the first MonHun game the highest sharpness was only green and all meele weapons would just bounce off of him, fighting him meele was suicide. So in order to take him down you would need a heavy bowgun that can use cluster shot lvl 2 (2 was the highest lvl). Back then you could only have a set amount, 10 or 20 I think but you could hold 99 of the combined parts. Wyvern claw and something else and you could buy both parts at the endgame shop. So the idea is to have four players use heavy bowgun and Rathalos armor for attack up to blow him the hell up with cluster shots till you repel/kill him. It was really the fastest way to kill him under 15 minutes. Cluster also back then shot different as it was just a bullet that would split into smaller clusters once it hit on impact. No mortar like stance so it was a pretty OP ammo backthen.
Man I would write an essay through the eyes of a bushy eyed new hunter for Fatalis in World. TLDR about my story with the game; Diablos washed my socks and I vowed that I never wanted to be caught lacking in gears ever again so I collected all the armors(like seriously, every single one), charms(upgraded), decos and weapon trees for the weapons I used. Fatalis to me was a masterclass and I love that hunt so much, they teach you respect fire blight, roll in water, use heavy artillery, paying attention to your location on the map, prioritizing breaking parts(WITH PART BREAKER) and most of all just enjoying the hunt and just throwing a cold one back with the friends or even newly acquired friends you made just from doing an SOS for that hunt. I've been in scenarios where I'd see an SOS thrown with two rage quitters and the hunt host is still there at 19 minutes. I've flown my tail in there, locked arms with this cat and we danced until the sun came up at "5 Minutes Remaining". Hearing that Cleared sound after was straight up intoxicating but it fails in comparison to hearing Proof Of A Hero after those dragonators hit. I've done that hunt so many times, failed it, carried friends through it and just for the thrill. I thank 2018 me every other day for making that random purchase for that Monster Hunter game. Currently now on the climb to 300 anomaly in Rise, same thing there. Collected all the armors/decos and working on my weapon trees and upgrades now. I know I'm just a Fiver but watching videos like these always makes me appreciate the games that came before it and more that I'll be happy to lock hands with you on in the future. Happy HUNTING! *prance dance*
Iceborne Fatalis was the only one to make me learn how to craft support items for my friends. Because at the end of our first defeat, I had a total of 348 heals between 4 people. (I was running a friendship heal and buff build.)
If they use Narwa changes the environment to make cooling currents or something like that, Dire can come back because the environment allows it to be hot and cold.
Actually, crimson has also an armor mode in MHFU. It activates when he goes in rage mode and dissipates once he calms down, while White Fatalis activates his armor mode at 50% HP and keeps it on until he drops below 25%. Also, for both the armor mode covers their entire body. All their hitzones become 10%, even their head. The best strategies were to bring bombs, cluster shots, gunlance shelling or dragon element on their head (bow) since the first three did fixed damages ignoring the hitzone values and the dragon hitzone on the head remained unchanged even when in armor mode.
i don't consider fatalis a final boss in the first game he's more like a super boss considering the fact you are effectively required to spend a lot of money or party up to stand a decent chance. also the fact you gotta do all the quests.
@@MeekCrayon I doubt it, because they just gave us Safi'jiva who is a Dangerous First Class Monster and Capcom themselves said he was to be a rival to fatalis, which is why they have similar quest names, weapon design motifs, the wearing him down reminiscent of mh1 fatalis, as well as equal but opposite effects with Safi luring in monsters and Fatalis driving them away
We will probably get a new black dragon or at least something close to it like safi and the red dragon thing, maybe fatalis will be the last update like in ib but i hope that at least they give us white fatalis too
When the black one repels, it will fly to the volcano with anger and become the crimson one. Once the crimson one fails again, it turns into the red one. The white one is a different story. We study it from the lore in JP version of the game
Iceborne fatalis is the first and only fatalis I’ve fought, but he has gone from behind right behind kushala daora and being my 2nd most hated monster to tied with Vaal Hazak and just ahead of the raths for my favourite monster. Fatalis is awesome, and I hope he comes to sunbreak
13:36 the original white in Freedom unite (mhp2g) also has this attack except it doesn't divebomb but slowly flies back at the end, and it performs this attack so often it is regarded as the No.2 time waster just behind Ratholas' around the world attack.
they can bring back dire miralis without underwater combat, when he needs to get to the water before he overheats he gets there cools down while shooting meteors at you
In-Universe the reason why G-Rank Crismon Fatalis exists is because you canonically don't kill Black Fatalis. You repel him and send him to the volcano. That's why one horn is "Overgrown". It's not overgrown, it's what Fatalis' horn would look like if he kept growing. He's burning hot and glowing because he's extremely enraged at another hunter coming at him.
Of course you can evade the 360 as long as you are on the other chest side when the attack starts, u just need to stick to it and it’s an easy evade/ not getting hit
2 variants, specifically. Rajang for instance has one variant, Furious. Gore Magala has one variant, Chaotic. All monsters have one subspecies, with some having a rare species too. Fatalis is unique because Crimson and White are both variants, not subspecies or rare species.
@@Bones_MaIone Variants - the same species as the original, but due to certain conditions their appearance is altered and they are typically way stronger than they were before. Examples would be furious rajang, savage deviljho and scarred Yian Garuga Subspecies - these are monsters that share the same common ancestry as their base versions, but they were raised in different environments causing their appearance to be very different from their regular species. Mostly in terms of colouration, but sometimes also in terms of their base element. Examples would be pink rathian and coral pukei pukei Rare species - similar to subspecies, these are monsters that share common ancestry with their base species, but they are raised in very rare and elusive environments hence the name. They are also typically way stronger. Examples would be lucent nargacuga, silver rathalos and gold rathian
My problem with Fatalis, Alatreon or other Eden Dragon is that they should be one of a kind, and live for centuries or milenia, it shouldn't be other Fatalis or other variants in my opinion. You don't need Crimson Fatalis when the Vanilla one can melt everything with those red flames, I don't even imagine the blue flame. For those who knows a little of physics the color of the flame is an indicator of the temperature and the eficiency of combustion. Red stars are colder than yellow ones, yellow one much colder than blue ones and blue ones colder than white ones.
I was really hoping crimson and white fatalis came to iceborne. The regular one was such a good fight. Hopefully the others return someday. I want a new 4u glowing crimson and white is so cool so would be great to see updated new versions. Also thought Oroshi Kirin and Rusted Kushala would come. Maybe someday! I also hope underwater returns someday and is revamped. I think it can work on ps5/series x.
More expensive Fatalis quest is eorth half of a ** rank kelbi horn quest run. Literally grinding kelbi horns for those 40min and selling them gives you enough to try more expensive Fatalis at least twice. I barely started MH1 and i already see no problems with zeni. I just learned that piscine livers are also valiuable tho less common to drop. Only real grind issue is with resources like ore. Anyway i cant wait to get to end game monsters. Its gonna be a nightmare and a half XD
I am an old gen player buut I.HAVE. NEVER. FOUGHT ANY Fatalis MY. WHOLE. MONSTER HUNTER career. Don't ask me why, but i have never, even I don't know why
If crimson fatalis ever gets a fight remake just like regular fatalis, I would really like if his meteor summoning attack was him showering the ground with blast fire which causes an earthquake which also causes the volcanos behind him to erupt and meteors falling from the sky flowed by a disaster level roar to stun you. Also if the devs don't make him one shot you with his dive bomb immediately after the story cutscene just to toy with you then I'm gonna be sad. Also he needs to always look like the grank version as it makes more sense for me.
while I get that you only go for the main series titles, especially with something like fatalis I kinda wish you wouldve spoken about zenith white fatalis from frontier and fatalis from monster hunter stories too. The zenith white fatty is one of the hardest monsters to ever exist in the franchine, even for frontier standards, and in stories he was one of the unexpected secret dlc bosses that had huge aoe one shots and was pretty challenging if you go unprepared, especially with his ultimate attack when he is close to death
With how sunbreak is focusing on fire monsters I'm guessing we're getting 2 black dragons.. Dire Miralis, Fatalis or his variants. I still ope we get amatsu though
Strategically made the video as long as Fatalis' current time limit in hunts I see.
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Iceborne Fatalis is still one of the greatest fights in a video game I’ve ever seen. Despite the 30 minute timer sucking, the natural difficulty of the fight was absolutely perfect and forced you to use all your tools. Dark souls may have me pumping my fist at beating a boss, but Fatalis had me screaming my lungs out when I got my first kill.
Same here friend. I fought him every day like 6-8 hours a day for a week before finally getting him down with IG, by targeting his head with diving wyvern. After that first victory I went on to beat him probably a dozen more times with much less of a struggle. Mastering that fight, which is what was required for victory, is one of my absolute most gratifying experiences in gaming. Nameless King is pretty high up there as well but Fatalis is in a league of his own.
I don’t usually like banging my head against a wall in video games, but something about Fatalis was different.
Got my first kill after 33 attempts solo. Loudest victory shout I have ever done after any video game moment. Truly an incredible fight.
I killed him 500 times because i fuckin love his fight!!! Hopes White/Crimson/Miralis returns for the next super MH game in PC/Xbox/PS
i think the short timer for fatlis and escaton judgement for alatreon are consequences for being able to essentially have infinite healing items
The pin in IB is also a nod to lure stating that Fatails melts hunters, armor and all, onto his chest to strength it. It’s also noted he stands on two legs to mock hunters. That’s also probably why he stands as a part of his pin. In short, he’s the Hunter Hunter who becomes strong by wearing the materials of the opponents he defeats.
In World it finally has a clearly-visible metal plate on his chest, which also gets hotter/softer during some attacks and can be broken. I figured they'd forgotten about that gruesome bit of lore from the description of I want to say Fatalis Crusts in MH1 and Freedom, but I guess someone remembered and gave it a huge nod in MHW.
@@vitriolicAmaranth yeah, but actually a massive nod, in that fatalis’s pin attack in that stage does exactly that, sticking you to its chest
Oh my gosh so true!
@@vitriolicAmaranth worth noting that Fatalis' chest is hot metal, and modders have revealed his scales under it.
I dont think he wears it be strong, i think its more of a mockery and kinda serves to show him as the antithesis to hunters. Where hunters respect all life and only take life when absolutely neccessary, and even after doing so make sure to use every piece of it to improve themselves so they can better serve the balance of nature via carefully crafted weapons and armor. Fatalis on the other hand, despises the very concept of life and thus especially hates the hunters who seek to keep it's balance stable, mocking their way of keeping balance, crudely applying materials willy nilly to his own body, armors that dont hold a candle to his own hide, an unnecessary destruction of resources and descration of his fallen foes. Fatalis doesnt become strong by wearing his opponents, hes not a hunter of hunters, that title is too specific for him. Hes an enemy to the very balance of nature itself, the only thing in which it seeks to gain from 'armoring' itself being to mock those that would seek to preserve that balance
19:03 "Hits extremely hard" is somehow an understatement. I was a Lance main at the time, so I learned the hard way that even his weakest attacks will chip through a max Guard Up Lance shield.
Lance guard up is joke. Lot of monsters attack chip away and knock back the hunter even with max guard up. That said i wont stop being lance main. Rise is much better in term of QoL and lance gameplay
@@uwu-ge6oj Us lance mains had to stack like 5 different skills just to play lance againat elder dragons in master rank
25:53 The health thresholds at which Fatalis performs these attacks is actually at about 40%, 20% and 5%.
75%, 50%, 38%, 20%, and 5% if I’m not mistaken
After seeing the MASSIVE upgrade Fatalis got in Iceborne I can't wait to see what they do with the other members of the Fatalis trio going forward
i just hope it's not too soon, it would be lazy to just keep using him when we haven't gotten a new black dragon since 3U
@@jockpackage1770 well we did get a new first class in iceborne
Fatalis needs a break man has been milked since day 1
@@bombshell361 who?
@@jaredbowers8938 Safi
MHWI Fatalis is still to this day the greatest boss fight i've ever experienced in any game. The way that fight starts with fear and dread, and slowly builds up to heroism near the end is perfect. I'll never forget the feeling of defeating this beast for the first time. Absolute banger of a soundtrack too.
The absolute elation of finally seeing Fatalis die after a couple days of attempts was probably the most satisfying experience I've ever had
yeah i was so happy to see normal form fatalis getting treated properly
it always felt so bad how in generations which was my first encounter with him
unless he was in 4 which was my first game and i forgot him XD
and he just felt well....weak as in considering the story and hype about him he just didn feel like he was anywhere close to the almost world ending threat people made him out to be
This is what makes Fatalis in Iceborne one of the most satisfying bosses to bring down.
I swear to god this thing has like a legendary presence as the greatest and most terrifying of the dragons and I hope it stays that way
Despite so many new monsters coming in with fancy visuals. Fatalis is STILL the Dragon that strikes the most fear just by MENTIONING its name. And after Iceborne, you won't have a hard time believing that the new monsters are NOTHING compare to Fatalis ' Sun-like flame. Safi is similar to Fatalis, sure. But Fatalis' face has the word "evil" written all over.
Fatalis in MH1 (PS2) was quite strong. Remember the meta with 4x Gunners, because the skin blocked nearly every other weapon, and combining endless amounts of Clust Lv. 2 with Wyvern Claws. A few times in the month the city merchant sold Claws and on this "Claw Days" everyone prepared their stuff for Fatalis.
Bro I'm so glad someone else remembers this. 4x heavy gun with cluster shots and materials to create more.
Dont forget everyone had a full set of shinobi armor and used the vor cannon. Had to wait until claw day and use all your money to stack up as many as possible. Good times 🤣
Dire Miralis can come back since we have wirebugs now. Effectively requiring hunters to use them as a resource to get the hunt down as opposed to accessing OP moves.
plus with the KO mechanics of Narwa, where blocks get lifted and mini cliffs rise up when she crashes down, we could get some cool temporary platforming stuff for Dire Miralis.
He could but he still needs water to regulate his body temperature to prevent overheating. They'd have to bring him back as a variant. Unless the mad scientists decide to bamboozle us and give us an underwater combat title update just to dabble into it again and see how much the community likes it. Man, a guy can dream.
While that would be fine for rise, wire bugs aren’t likely to return and we’d result in another overhaul the next time miralis is in a game.
They atleast need to make something make sense in sunbreak to make his body temperature stable then he can back
@@domp2729 Mmm, I definitely see that. I wonder if there's a better way to balance wirebugs... reduce distance traveled by each one? nerf the cooldown?
I love that Fatalis might not be the largest Elder but is the scariest and strongest, making monsters size of mountains run for their life.
You know, it perfectly aligns with hunters themselves. In MH, hunters are, like, one of the smallest animals in the whole world *period,* even with their weapons they're just a tiny balls of whatever for almost any other creature, but hunters are technically on top of the food chain, consistently defeating the opponents magnitudes larger than themselves. One hunter is capable of defeating an Elder dragon, which in their world equals to killing a natural disaster. In MH universe, size *does NOT* matter. Knowing this, Fatalis becomes actually viable as the strongest force in the world, probably being able to explode colossal Dalamadurs in pieces with ease and tearing island-sized Zorahs apart or something.
That's also why Fatalis is an actual full-blown villian of the franchise. He does one thing that all good villians do: he, while being malicious, reflects our heroes.
@@Skarrierthat explains why rajang is an elder tier
@@Chrys-marcelMambou also explains why larinoth are just aptonoth tier fodder despite being bigger than a good amount of the roster
When fetalis was conceived, he was actually the supernatural one, as there was not much other supernatural elder dragon until the introduction of Kushala, Teo, Luna, and Chamelios in 2nd gen
Man I hope they master and pull off underwater combat for Gen 6. I still feel that the clutch claw and wire bugs are a concept test for a fluent underwater combat.
I'm shocked nobody has mentioned the major similarities between Fatalis and the fights against the dragon in dragons dogma, another Capcom game. The model, some of the attacks, and the usage of ballista in their arenas are all similar.
ua-cam.com/video/6pqhS-Kx2Jc/v-deo.html Minor correction: Fatalis' solo health is 66,000 not 57,000. Aside for that, you covered Fatalis very well from start to finish and put into perspective of the monster's evolution. Congratulations on breaking five digit followers btw!
lmao this is why i love iceborne endgame
"No, he doesn't have a massive 57,000 health pool! That's ridiculous!
HE HAS MORE."
@@budgetcommander4849 Sunbreak then goes "hold my beer"
I had to beat the mhwi fatalis with full power flames, so fun. I played it myself solo before I looked up stuff and knew about the bait for his fire breath
Black Dragons are supposed to be the most challenging and scariest monsters in the games, Iceborne's Fatalis demonstrated that really well
Dude, I frickin love your monster hunter evolution videos! As someone who loves the franchise and a long time player, these videos are extremely informative . I only wish you could share some tips on playing the old games. Thanks for all your hard work.
I'll have a channel update up later this week, discussing things. Namely future evolution videos.
Ok
Wait, what about blue fatalis? Surely, they were worth mentioning for appearance. Or are they not that well known?
Excited to finally hear what your strategy will be for your evolution videos. Was wondering what you would do with all the sub species being in future updates.
Hey in the next video can you make The evolution of Deviljho pls because deviljho is my favorite brute Wyverns along with brachydios anjanath abiorugu giorugu duramboros Barroth uragaan and radobaan
@LoveSweetDreams they are. Both are in. I showed them.
But that ultra heated crimson Fatalis is in 4U. GU has the standard crimson from other games. Still cool though.
Congrats on 10k dude! Also amazing fatalis video, glad you included Dire Miralis
Iceborne fatalis feels like the one that actually destroyed a entire empire by itself
i'm really excited to see what they do with Dire Miralis if they ever bring him back as he is supposedly on a similar level.
I feel like without the 30 minute timer, a significant portion of the fight feeling actually difficult and tense would be completely lost.
The monsters of MH usually only feel "hard" when you have to actively fight them the entire time, if you want to play safe, you absolutely can most of the time and this makes it VERY hard for a monster to down you unless they have some serious bullshit moves. There needs to be a time constraint to make you actually fight the damn thing instead of looking at it without any consequence. Fatalis, like Alatreon before him felt like a much more satisfying "dance" than most regular hunts simply because you HAVE to actively engage both of these monsters and learn their behaviour and patterns, actually becoming efficient at dealing enough damage/part break to take them down proper without letting you run around aimlessly while not getting punished for it.
When me and my then squad took him down for the first time it came down to 28:39 or something, incredibly tight, but honestly it was the greatest feeling and I feel like the fight would have felt infinitely less satisfying without the time limit being there.
that is an interesting, and even valid, take on the time limit. To expand it, if you bloated the health values of any monster so that they just flat out took 50 minutes to kill, instead of the current 15-30 minutes they usually take, it would become incredibly painstaking. The panic of nearly running out would still be present, but it would feel worse because you just spent nearly an hour on a single hunt, and lost it. And then when you win, you're just tired of fighting it.
@@demonminer8093 Well yeah, usually nothing takes more than 30 minutes to kill even if you fuck around a little bit doing nothing. Most single monster hunts are over under the 15min mark, some of the harder ones might take nearly 30 minutes the first time, but usually they last a comfortable 20-25, less with time.
Having to fight a monster for 50 minutes straight would sure be a nightmare though. I think the decision to limit the timer to 30 was definately the better choice in this case and lets be honest, most people just lost to carting instead of the time limit anyway in this fight haha.
@@demonminer8093 Reminds me of Gogmazios in 4U and soloing his urgent quest with the available gear at the time, outside of using insect glaive. About 26 seconds left while using charge blade-I couldn’t see myself doing that again, for reasons you described with taking on a longer hunt. But knowing that it was meant to be for multiplayer made hunting him very satisfying.
The timer (including the completion time for speedrunning at the end of quests) is actually an ingenious bit of low-effort difficulty management. The fact that there is not only a (very lenient, most of the time) time limit, but that you are being timed and having your time recorded, puts on the pressure to perform, but the fact that you actually have a pretty long time to do the hunt means that if you're struggling you can swallow your pride and go slowly.
@@vitriolicAmaranth Yeah, it's a personal diffuculty modifier depending on wether you want to perform better, sort of similar to how scoring games like, in my experience anyway, Ace Combat usually have long timers to complete the mission, but you have to put in the effort to get that precious S rank score.
Sometimes a prohibitive timer is also needed though.
I expected another troll lol. (Flashbacks to Bulldrome)
After failing IB fatalist quest many times while doing it online, i decided to do it solo and took me 3 days to do so.
Online in World has always been a shitshow, you straight up can not sleep monsters, etc. etc.
@@TheDragonshunter i never had an issue online except for fatalist
it really teachs you how to fight at your best.
@@dantevic its because 90% of the players you see online in World are not ready for Fatalis, hell to this day I can hop into an Alatreon SOS and see the guy using Raging Brachy weapons lol
@@Carlisho OUCH... Brachy weapons are great, but absolutely not what is needed for Alatreon. Tho it IS funny to complete the fight with the Comical Ice Swordfish GS. XD XD
Only Monster Hunter could put a 30 minute limit to a fight and you will feel like it's not enough
tell me whatever you want but I love old Fatalis.
it's slow and easy to predict, but that's the point.
you have to be perfect.
it's attacks are all easy to avoid, but if you mess up you're dead.
I won't deny it's really that hard, but it's Monster Hunter 's combat to the max.
learing patterns and punish them, the "dance" between you and the Monsters and Fatalis forced you to follow it.
I understand that with White and normal fatalis, they have a unique and amazing arena to use with.
But man, the crimson one? Is the worst, has the normal fatalis theme and same pattern attacks (also, he cannot move is head to launch strategic fireballs) only has a blast effect in the claw, launch metros and canalyze to launch more meteoros. The worst thing, the map, he resides in Ingel Island where you fight some EX deviants, Alatreon, Akantor and some challenging hunts, losing a lot of fun or challenging of fighting him
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Yeah Crimson is shit
I agree
I was talking of Black Fatalis,but yeah the same goes for White.
@@beerhoz4533 which is EXACTLY why they gave crimson a new variant in 4U. They gave him a new theme, a new design, new attacks involving heatwaves and lava waves. Regular crimson in comparison just sucks as you've pointed out. Idk why they didn't bring this variant to GU and only use his regular boring version
4U crimson Fatalis variant and 4U White Fatalis are my favorite. Iceborne fatalis I don't count cause it's just in a league of its own
True but you were also slow. We still dancing and fatalis still has the lead but now we are in a tango instead of a slow dance
There's more chances of fuck ups and we still get 70% of our health taken away for it
Iceborne Fatalis is probably in my top 5 boss fights of all time. It’s a perfectly written, perfectly choreographed, and perfectly presented three act story about a hero and a monster. It just feels timeless and perfect in almost every way, despite how hard it is.
A monster that I would love to come back that is from MH4U is Dalamader, one of the Urgent quests to unlock G rank in that game. It does have its own area but the fight itself was very fun imo
Absolutely banging video heavy wings. Been with you since 1k subs. I consider your monster evolution videos best in-class. This vid is probably your best yet. Congrats on 10k and can't wait to see what you put out next!
I still think Alatreon was to be Iceborne final boss, with a much larger story than what we had, but the 15 years artwork came and the feedback was so huge Capcom had to make him come, they even said he wasn't planned at all, I would have loved to see what they would have done with Alatreon
Though Iceborne Fatalis is a pure Masterclass in every aspect
I thought they did a great job with Alatreon as well, that fight is pretty much tied with Fatalis for me in terms of how enjoyable it is. Fatalis was definitely more challenging for me personally, but once you learned the mechanics and how to read Alatreon’s moveset, that fight is beautiful dance like no other IMO.
The thing I like about Fatalis the most is the lore behind it.
Some of my favorite lore involving Fatty is the giant great sword in Poke village. This giant sword implies that at some point in history, a Fatalis was slain before. Theres also the fact that this sword regenerates after mining from it, which could mean that the sword and scales and stones off of it are all still alive.
This also leads into the theories that the gear we make from Fatalis parts are also alive which can explain why they so strong. (In Iceborne at least, in the older games the fatty family's gear was a mixed bag depending on which version of fatty and the game.)
I really believe that half of what makes Fatalis really stand out is the lore. I think world did a poor job explaining the things what Really makes him special, such as the fact that Fatalis only shows up when humanity starts to have to much of a grip over nature, and it specifically targeting humanity could hint toward it being sentient. Without the lore, hes just a dragon that likes to breath a lot of fire, I prefer Alatreon over fatty any way.
i love that in GU we can mine the giant sword to make teh perfect set for crit draw GS build
In GU the cat maintaining it mentions that they have to regularly replace the weapon because too many people keep mining from it.
@@kingofflames738 where did the cat get a surplus amount of fatalis gs 💀
I played portable 2g a lot but don't remember fatalis sword there, could you please tell where it is?
it is so cool!
@@ТарасФітьо-м7д inside the cave at the pokke farm
I remember when Iceborne Fatalis first came out I streamed it for a few friends and mentioned that I'd been throwing myself against him for over a day now. They were like "that doesn't sound fun".
That got me thinking. I WAS having fun. Only a game like Monster Hunter could give you a challenge like that and have it still feel fair, and not just that, make it something I want to play more of.
I want to see 4U's G-rank crimson fatty back again, too. His heat waves and the sun flares made him really visually impressive. I hope later Monster Hunter games give Fatalis the respect he deserves and not just throw in fatty back as content padding.
I just love how the iceborne segment is a straight up Tutorial on the fight. Great video as always man!
Remember the first solo fight against a Fatalis is because he's the final boss of funny egg subplot because one of the egg we delivered hatched.
Also to explain the difference between the two crimson fatalis, maybe the first is not completely adult because he hatched not long ago but there's also a fan theory that the G-rank one is the fatalis from the first game.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks Fatalis in Iceborne is a really well designed fight. It genuinely annoys me that people say it's an unfair fight when it's only unfair if you go in unpreparedm very much like Alatreon who I think was designed in a way to say "Hey, you need to learn the monster and prepare accordingly." so that people would have that mindset ready for Fatalis.
I feel like dire derserves to be in a new gen game, dire has a lot of great moves even though some are fatalis but with the new era, he can get more of his owns
this is an amazing video and really interesting to see the evolution of the monster itself and the fight but all i can focus on is you being a skulduggery fan with that palico name
keep in mind despite crimson fatalis being at the end of village high rank in 4 ultimate it's by doing a greulling tasks known as egg quests and on top of that apparently it's a recently born fatalis too.
I absolutely love the 4U G Rank Chrimson Fatalis , a red Traditional Dragon , too good
Love and enjoy your Monster Hunter vids!! Continue the amazing work dude!!👍
Congrats on 10k! 🎉🎉 Been watching you since the beginning
3:29 totally agree. I legit did the slay 3 velociprey quest in forest n hills dozen of times because it yield easy 300z.
Yes, 3 hundred freaking zenny
Iceborne Fatalis really is on his king shit. His fight is still my favorite and the music just gets my adrenaline flowing.
My problem with iceborne fatalis is not that he has a massive health pool, or that he hits hard, but its not tight enough.
His hitboxes are decent but because of how tight the fight is, the occasional hit/death due to bad hitboxes stings WAYY MORE than it normally does, and the fact he sometimes just attacks in a way as to not give you any chance to do anything, and you die a bullshit death, that really sours the whole 'only the best players' thing, because at this point it stops being about skill and instead its about luck....
Edit: 19:40 Also moments like that, simply being attached to him will pin you for no reason, even though i wasnt under him
u forgot the ultimate white fatalis who literaly obliterates u tho
the artificial difficulty argument is fair, but at the same time if it was a full 50min fight then he'd likely be given 80k health, the fight is supposed to reach those final 5 minutes by design i think.
perhaps it's that it ends with the times out screen instead of say a super fire breath or something, so it feels like the game saying no as opposed to the monster beating you.
honestly i think it serves to help the battle, like step one is learn his moves, step 2 learn when is safe to attack, step 3 learn about the horns, step four realize there's no way to do it in the time limit, step 5 learn to create openings and attack him when he's attacking so there's no down time, step 6 repeat until almost perfect.
on the run you beat him you will barely cart and be in the zone the whole time, making every opportunity count and baiting the moves you want, it's my favorite fight for that, you have to almost master it to beat it, and you feel like you earned that adulation at the end, and the rewards for beating him are super worth it, it's completely and utterly satisfying in every way.
EX White Fatalis in generations ultimate is such a challenge, and is required to make most of the best meta sets. That fight alone and all of the amped up event fatalis quests make generation's fatalis the best for me.
Tbh, I think Crismon is gonna be Sunbreak’s final TU Boss. It makes sense, really.
Iceborne: Fatalis/Alatreon
Sunbreak: Crismon Fatalis/Something new perhaps
MH6/New game: White Fatalis/Dire Miralis
Console exclusive was the biggest enemy for hunters, from ps2 to psp to the wii to the 3DS,
I was a little kid with no money, I wish I could have played them
I remember in the 1st MH the basic strat was for everyone in the group to run bow guns because it was too much of a liability to get anywhere near him.
Did anyone notice he made the video EXACTLY 30 mins? The same amount of time the Fatalis quests in Iceborne give you to kill Him.
How the hell will capcom top iceborne fatalis when they get to introduce the other 2? like how can you make them more challenging without hitting stupid and unfair territory?
It’ll probably be balanced out by players already having fatalis gear.
Fatalis was possible to to finish in a single run in the First MH game. You had to have 4 players with heavy bowguns (perferably the fatalis heavy bowgun) and you had everyone bring Clust lv2 and the matierals to craft clust lvl2 and the combo books to get 100% craft rate. You could bring 99 of both materials (small bone husk and wyvern claw, both of which were able to be purchased from the merchant).
I love how they put a 30 minute timer on a massive healthbar
In lore, couldn't fatalis set the entire world aflame if he really felt like it? The life of every non elder dragon and most likely a lot of elder dragons is dependant on this guy going, "nah too much effort"
I think he spends the majority of his time slumbering underneath the castle.
Saying Nakarkos and Ahtal Ka beating Fatalis is pretty damn stupid its gameplay limitations so of course they're not giving him anything too crazy.
I thought Bulldrome was a variant of Fatalis? A bit upset about the lack of the boss with the most difficult moveset. But I guess I can't really complain, you did make a video dedicated to the godless deity Bulldrome.
G Rank Crimson Fatalis in MH4U was one of my favorite multiplayer experiences ever. Iceborne Fatalis was a better fight, but I’ll always prefer G Rank Crimson.
Same
The most memorable of the Fatalises in 4u.
i would love to see a crimson fatalis in iceborn but im onestly not a great fan of old fatalis
White Fatalis is my favorite variation of Fatalis, with the Zenith version being to me the absolute peak of it being the strongest monster to exist
Sad you didn't get to touch on the Frontier Exclusive versions of Fatalis from G rank because they're all really cool, but Frontier isn't exactly the easiest game to get ahold of
Crimson fatalis is apparently an enraged fatalis who got beat up pretty bad.
This is why one of his horns is larger than the other.
Ive been playing monster hunter for 8 years and i havent fought any fatalis. But by just watching this video is making me want to buy iceborne. Its scares me and excite at the same time.
So for the first MonHun game the highest sharpness was only green and all meele weapons would just bounce off of him, fighting him meele was suicide. So in order to take him down you would need a heavy bowgun that can use cluster shot lvl 2 (2 was the highest lvl). Back then you could only have a set amount, 10 or 20 I think but you could hold 99 of the combined parts. Wyvern claw and something else and you could buy both parts at the endgame shop.
So the idea is to have four players use heavy bowgun and Rathalos armor for attack up to blow him the hell up with cluster shots till you repel/kill him. It was really the fastest way to kill him under 15 minutes.
Cluster also back then shot different as it was just a bullet that would split into smaller clusters once it hit on impact. No mortar like stance so it was a pretty OP ammo backthen.
Considering how fatalis worked in gen 1 you could say it was MH first endgame
Very interesting.
28:33 Doesent Stygian Zinogre have red lightning?
Yeah, but White Fatalis predates Stygian by a few years. And Stygian’s lightning technically only does Dragon element damage.
26:57 fatalis always got reduced time so no not it isnt. granted no repels now..
Man I would write an essay through the eyes of a bushy eyed new hunter for Fatalis in World.
TLDR about my story with the game; Diablos washed my socks and I vowed that I never wanted to be caught lacking in gears ever again so I collected all the armors(like seriously, every single one), charms(upgraded), decos and weapon trees for the weapons I used.
Fatalis to me was a masterclass and I love that hunt so much, they teach you respect fire blight, roll in water, use heavy artillery, paying attention to your location on the map, prioritizing breaking parts(WITH PART BREAKER) and most of all just enjoying the hunt and just throwing a cold one back with the friends or even newly acquired friends you made just from doing an SOS for that hunt.
I've been in scenarios where I'd see an SOS thrown with two rage quitters and the hunt host is still there at 19 minutes. I've flown my tail in there, locked arms with this cat and we danced until the sun came up at "5 Minutes Remaining". Hearing that Cleared sound after was straight up intoxicating but it fails in comparison to hearing Proof Of A Hero after those dragonators hit. I've done that hunt so many times, failed it, carried friends through it and just for the thrill. I thank 2018 me every other day for making that random purchase for that Monster Hunter game. Currently now on the climb to 300 anomaly in Rise, same thing there. Collected all the armors/decos and working on my weapon trees and upgrades now.
I know I'm just a Fiver but watching videos like these always makes me appreciate the games that came before it and more that I'll be happy to lock hands with you on in the future.
Happy HUNTING!
*prance dance*
18:49 isn't it 66000hp?
Iceborne Fatalis was the only one to make me learn how to craft support items for my friends. Because at the end of our first defeat, I had a total of 348 heals between 4 people. (I was running a friendship heal and buff build.)
If they use Narwa changes the environment to make cooling currents or something like that, Dire can come back because the environment allows it to be hot and cold.
Actually, crimson has also an armor mode in MHFU. It activates when he goes in rage mode and dissipates once he calms down, while White Fatalis activates his armor mode at 50% HP and keeps it on until he drops below 25%. Also, for both the armor mode covers their entire body. All their hitzones become 10%, even their head. The best strategies were to bring bombs, cluster shots, gunlance shelling or dragon element on their head (bow) since the first three did fixed damages ignoring the hitzone values and the dragon hitzone on the head remained unchanged even when in armor mode.
Honestly if they amped up black fatalis' fire in iceborne what would they have done with red as it seems he has a higher affinity for flames.
i don't consider fatalis a final boss in the first game he's more like a super boss considering the fact you are effectively required to spend a lot of money or party up to stand a decent chance. also the fact you gotta do all the quests.
I hope it's possible for Fatalis to return in Sunbreak 💙😁
Prefer if they give is another black dragon instead.
They could give us a new Black Dragon for end-game, maybe? 🤔
Hear me out here, but what if instead of a black dragon, it was...
The equal dragon weapon?
@@MeekCrayon I doubt it, because they just gave us Safi'jiva who is a Dangerous First Class Monster and Capcom themselves said he was to be a rival to fatalis, which is why they have similar quest names, weapon design motifs, the wearing him down reminiscent of mh1 fatalis, as well as equal but opposite effects with Safi luring in monsters and Fatalis driving them away
We will probably get a new black dragon or at least something close to it like safi and the red dragon thing, maybe fatalis will be the last update like in ib but i hope that at least they give us white fatalis too
Rest in peace for those who have passed away and never even got the chance at fighting fatalis iceborne 🙏🏼
When the black one repels, it will fly to the volcano with anger and become the crimson one. Once the crimson one fails again, it turns into the red one. The white one is a different story. We study it from the lore in JP version of the game
The World 360 fire can be avoided why clutching into him.
Iceborne fatalis is the first and only fatalis I’ve fought, but he has gone from behind right behind kushala daora and being my 2nd most hated monster to tied with Vaal Hazak and just ahead of the raths for my favourite monster. Fatalis is awesome, and I hope he comes to sunbreak
13:36 the original white in Freedom unite (mhp2g) also has this attack except it doesn't divebomb but slowly flies back at the end, and it performs this attack so often it is regarded as the No.2 time waster just behind Ratholas' around the world attack.
THIRTY MINUTES???
HELL YESSSS!!!
they can bring back dire miralis without underwater combat, when he needs to get to the water before he overheats he gets there cools down while shooting meteors at you
"Welcome to Phase 2. Fatalist will now begin to fly."
This is such a raw line to me for some reason
I hope fatalis gets added in sunbreak or better yet add him in every game cuz he is basically a secret flagship
Iceborne Fatalis is a masterpiece of a boss fight and is one of my favorite bosses of all time
ACTUALLY crimson is not the first variant instead I believe its ashen Lao shan lung
In-Universe the reason why G-Rank Crismon Fatalis exists is because you canonically don't kill Black Fatalis. You repel him and send him to the volcano. That's why one horn is "Overgrown". It's not overgrown, it's what Fatalis' horn would look like if he kept growing. He's burning hot and glowing because he's extremely enraged at another hunter coming at him.
Of course you can evade the 360 as long as you are on the other chest side when the attack starts, u just need to stick to it and it’s an easy evade/ not getting hit
"This makes Fatalis the first and so far only monster to have 2 subspecies."
Rathalos and Rathian: "Am I a joke to you?"
2 variants, specifically. Rajang for instance has one variant, Furious. Gore Magala has one variant, Chaotic.
All monsters have one subspecies, with some having a rare species too. Fatalis is unique because Crimson and White are both variants, not subspecies or rare species.
@@HeavyWings Yeah it makes sense in that regard, but the difference between variants, subspecies and rare species is still a bit confusing at times
@@Bones_MaIone
Variants - the same species as the original, but due to certain conditions their appearance is altered and they are typically way stronger than they were before. Examples would be furious rajang, savage deviljho and scarred Yian Garuga
Subspecies - these are monsters that share the same common ancestry as their base versions, but they were raised in different environments causing their appearance to be very different from their regular species. Mostly in terms of colouration, but sometimes also in terms of their base element. Examples would be pink rathian and coral pukei pukei
Rare species - similar to subspecies, these are monsters that share common ancestry with their base species, but they are raised in very rare and elusive environments hence the name. They are also typically way stronger. Examples would be lucent nargacuga, silver rathalos and gold rathian
@@Bones_MaIone well if you're going to quote someone, would probably be best if you quote what they actually said.
@@handtomouth4690 Did I not?
My problem with Fatalis, Alatreon or other Eden Dragon is that they should be one of a kind, and live for centuries or milenia, it shouldn't be other Fatalis or other variants in my opinion. You don't need Crimson Fatalis when the Vanilla one can melt everything with those red flames, I don't even imagine the blue flame. For those who knows a little of physics the color of the flame is an indicator of the temperature and the eficiency of combustion. Red stars are colder than yellow ones, yellow one much colder than blue ones and blue ones colder than white ones.
I had to learn how to battle with tears in my eyes. When Proof of a Hero hits, it gets me every time.
I was really hoping crimson and white fatalis came to iceborne. The regular one was such a good fight. Hopefully the others return someday. I want a new 4u glowing crimson and white is so cool so would be great to see updated new versions. Also thought Oroshi Kirin and Rusted Kushala would come. Maybe someday! I also hope underwater returns someday and is revamped. I think it can work on ps5/series x.
More expensive Fatalis quest is eorth half of a ** rank kelbi horn quest run. Literally grinding kelbi horns for those 40min and selling them gives you enough to try more expensive Fatalis at least twice. I barely started MH1 and i already see no problems with zeni. I just learned that piscine livers are also valiuable tho less common to drop. Only real grind issue is with resources like ore. Anyway i cant wait to get to end game monsters. Its gonna be a nightmare and a half XD
I am an old gen player buut I.HAVE. NEVER. FOUGHT ANY Fatalis MY. WHOLE. MONSTER HUNTER career. Don't ask me why, but i have never, even I don't know why
If crimson fatalis ever gets a fight remake just like regular fatalis, I would really like if his meteor summoning attack was him showering the ground with blast fire which causes an earthquake which also causes the volcanos behind him to erupt and meteors falling from the sky flowed by a disaster level roar to stun you.
Also if the devs don't make him one shot you with his dive bomb immediately after the story cutscene just to toy with you then I'm gonna be sad.
Also he needs to always look like the grank version as it makes more sense for me.
Its sad that iceborn fatalis is LOCKED behind alatreon's dumb bumper!!!! Why did they make that boi have a DPS CHECK?????
while I get that you only go for the main series titles, especially with something like fatalis I kinda wish you wouldve spoken about zenith white fatalis from frontier and fatalis from monster hunter stories too. The zenith white fatty is one of the hardest monsters to ever exist in the franchine, even for frontier standards, and in stories he was one of the unexpected secret dlc bosses that had huge aoe one shots and was pretty challenging if you go unprepared, especially with his ultimate attack when he is close to death
With how sunbreak is focusing on fire monsters I'm guessing we're getting 2 black dragons..
Dire Miralis, Fatalis or his variants.
I still ope we get amatsu though
Original Monster Hunter: to unlock Fatalis kill 100 wyverns and do every single online quest MHWI: just do the main story you'll be fine lol