It's nice to hear your analysis of the translations in Shoah. I have a few others identified where the translation into English is just plumb wrong. When you mention Lanzmann's agenda, I think it's fairly obvious in that particular scene when he's sort of mooning his eyes over the pot bellied farmer saying that the people in the wagons spoke "Jew" or "Jewish." Even folks who don't know French can pick up on his whole body language in that scene. (I just rewatched Shoah a few weeks ago, so it's fresh in my mind.) He wanted Bomba to be in a hair salon to sort of repeat the action of cutting hair while Bomba told his story, and I think that worked out fine in the film. Lanzmann spoke publically about that scene and why he had arranged to shoot it the way he had for authenticity. It's good to hear your analysis of the translations and it's interesting when you point out what has been changed. You've been at this site before in previous videos, but I can't see the resemblance to the Shoah footage because it has really changed a lot since Lanzmann was there.
👩🏻💻🇺🇲 I enjoy watching and listening to your OBJECTIVE comments backed up by reference and hard data. This era in time has so facinated me and I study to learn anything new and renew the study. I don't understand this compulsion only that I can share and educate with others the information or correct view points &c. I did teach 1st grade for 17 years and education is very important to me and studying History is a way to guide my future from the mistakes of the past. Human emotions do not change only the clothes they wear. Thank for time well spent.😊
My mother was born in 1934. And although she's no longer living she would have been around 9 when treblinka was in operation. She would be 90 now. There are a lot of people who are still in good shape in their 90s so its not inconceivable that eye witnesses could still be around.
So much appreciated to look at these videos as if you are there” walking down that old asphalt Road? try to imagine the scenes that took place on the sidings while the rail car sat there sometimes overnight waiting to get into the camp. But this area sure looks different than It did on SHOAH, the film when Landsman interviewed that pot bellied farmer
Is this the scene while Eberle was "in charge"? He was a train wreck. Wirth had to come in to sort things out. There were decomposing bodies around the "rails". I am not clear if they were at the Treblinka station or up on the hill at the entrance for the camp. Leaving cadavers around either place would have caused panic amongst the condemned. When you have a 20 cars with 180 people in each car, and only a hundred or so Trawniki creatures and less SS garbage it pays not to get the condemned in a desperate frame of mind.
Please clarify....the newer, paved road between the siding site and the station bldg across that road, was constructed over the original train track line, correct? Which direction is Malkinia station if facing the new road, with rail sleepers memorial at your back? Also, the old road constructed by the Germans in the early 40s giving access to the camp areas: In this video, are you walking on the old road toward the camp, 2 miles or so onward? Was this road constructed only between Treblinka station and the camp, or does it extend farther in either direction? It is difficult to understand the terrain, specific locations, etc, with no stated directions given. Additionally, did the rail spur into the camp commence at Treblinka station itself, or was the existing rail line utilized with the dedicated spur laid closer to the camp? I have tried to sort these same questions with Shoah footage, but to no avail, as few concrete details were offered other than general pointing in directions mysterious to the film viewer. Thank you.
Something is always lost in translation. When I listen to English translations of European languages the structure of the sentences in the translation is somewhat off. Not being bilingual I try not to criticise, I am just grateful that their experiences have been recorded. After watching your video I watched a few of Claude Lanzmann’s interviews I took notice of the body language, at times the interviewee seems a bit shocked or bit put off by some of the questions. However having said that, I then must take into account the age of the interview and his technique which doesn’t have the polish or depth of what we are used to today. But at least he has tried to document the events with first person interviews it is up to us to weed out the information we require from any emotion or distress the interviewee may have.
Merry Christmas Alan and chat 💞🐾🦴🎄
I liked your comments on translation. Tone is delicate.
It's nice to hear your analysis of the translations in Shoah. I have a few others identified where the translation into English is just plumb wrong. When you mention Lanzmann's agenda, I think it's fairly obvious in that particular scene when he's sort of mooning his eyes over the pot bellied farmer saying that the people in the wagons spoke "Jew" or "Jewish." Even folks who don't know French can pick up on his whole body language in that scene. (I just rewatched Shoah a few weeks ago, so it's fresh in my mind.) He wanted Bomba to be in a hair salon to sort of repeat the action of cutting hair while Bomba told his story, and I think that worked out fine in the film. Lanzmann spoke publically about that scene and why he had arranged to shoot it the way he had for authenticity. It's good to hear your analysis of the translations and it's interesting when you point out what has been changed. You've been at this site before in previous videos, but I can't see the resemblance to the Shoah footage because it has really changed a lot since Lanzmann was there.
👩🏻💻🇺🇲 I enjoy watching and listening to your OBJECTIVE comments backed up by reference and hard data. This era in time has so facinated me and I study to learn anything new and renew the study. I don't understand this compulsion only that I can share and educate with others the information or correct view points &c. I did teach 1st grade for 17 years and education is very important to me and studying History is a way to guide my future from the mistakes of the past. Human emotions do not change only the clothes they wear. Thank for time well spent.😊
It befuddles my mind that people could live in a hose where so much evil has taken place.
In Europe you can't avoid history. A house is a house.
My mother was born in 1934. And although she's no longer living she would have been around 9 when treblinka was in operation. She would be 90 now. There are a lot of people who are still in good shape in their 90s so its not inconceivable that eye witnesses could still be around.
So much appreciated to look at these videos as if you are there” walking down that old asphalt Road? try to imagine the scenes that took place on the sidings while the rail car sat there sometimes overnight waiting to get into the camp. But this area sure looks different than It did on SHOAH, the film when Landsman interviewed that pot bellied farmer
Is this the scene while Eberle was "in charge"? He was a train wreck. Wirth had to come in to sort things out.
There were decomposing bodies around the "rails". I am not clear if they were at the Treblinka station or up on the hill at the entrance for the camp.
Leaving cadavers around either place would have caused panic amongst the condemned. When you have a 20 cars with 180 people in each car, and only a hundred or so Trawniki creatures and less SS garbage it pays not to get the condemned in a desperate frame of mind.
The piles of bodies were at the camp although I have heard of bodies being removed at Treblinka railway station too.
I too remember reading that there were bodies visible at some distance of the camp. Cannot remember where.
@@HistoryonUA-camFranz Stangl también mencionó que desde la carretera que discurría paralela a la vía del tren, se veian cadáveres junto a las vías.
Please do more analysis of Shoah. I particularly like the interviews with the Ss officer and Filip Muller and one of the sobibor survivors in Israel
Please clarify....the newer, paved road between the siding site and the station bldg across that road, was constructed over the original train track line, correct? Which direction is Malkinia station if facing the new road, with rail sleepers memorial at your back? Also, the old road constructed by the Germans in the early 40s giving access to the camp areas: In this video, are you walking on the old road toward the camp, 2 miles or so onward? Was this road constructed only between Treblinka station and the camp, or does it extend farther in either direction? It is difficult to understand the terrain, specific locations, etc, with no stated directions given. Additionally, did the rail spur into the camp commence at Treblinka station itself, or was the existing rail line utilized with the dedicated spur laid closer to the camp? I have tried to sort these same questions with Shoah footage, but to no avail, as few concrete details were offered other than general pointing in directions mysterious to the film viewer. Thank you.
Something is always lost in translation. When I listen to English translations of European languages the structure of the sentences in the translation is somewhat off. Not being bilingual I try not to criticise, I am just grateful that their experiences have been recorded. After watching your video I watched a few of Claude Lanzmann’s interviews I took notice of the body language, at times the interviewee seems a bit shocked or bit put off by some of the questions. However having said that, I then must take into account the age of the interview and his technique which doesn’t have the polish or depth of what we are used to today. But at least he has tried to document the events with first person interviews it is up to us to weed out the information we require from any emotion or distress the interviewee may have.
Merry Christmas
Alan: Have you done videos on your conversations with David Irving?
No, I have not but I suppose I might one day!
Irving is no more. Didn't you meet him at Birkenau once?
Why would you waste your time on a Nazi like Irving?