The walk of death at Sobibor
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- The death camp at Sobibor operated from May 1942 - October 1943. In that time around 250,000 people were brought there and killed. This short film shows the route they took from the railway station to the gas chamber and how it looks today (2007).
Chaim Engel and Selma Wijnberg-Engel, great great cousins of mine, were two of the successful escapees of the revolt. 600 escaped, but only 58 survived. Chaim passed in 2003 and Selma in 2018.
Hallelujah, praise Yahovah for their lives
Hallelujah, praise Yahovah for their lives
They were very brave. You should be so proud.
I just watched the movie about them. Chaim was a true hero for helping to plan the escape
Do you think Sgt Wagner committed suicide or Schlomo Stan Szmagner whacked him? I think he hunted him, snatched him and exacted vicious revenge for his inexplicable torcher at Sobibor
Thank you so much for this. I've always wanted to go to Poland to visit and pay respect to victims of the Holocaust, and you've helped me to see Sobibor from more of an inside perspective. Thanks again.
there is a movie and book out on sobibor
Alan. Thank you for posting these videos of the camps. I lost nine siblings if my great grandfather and their spouses and children ; they were originally from Grodno and ended up in a pit in a forest or at treblinka. It’s possible some were sent to aushwitz. None of them survived.
Your videos are very helpful and informative.
I wish you wanted to take a tour of the states via van.
Caroline
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@@helenmurphy3143 Wow... Really? Well thanks for pointing out the obvious 🙄🙄🙄
@@PreetyAmazing MY GRAND PARENTS WERE KILLED AS GUN SMUGGLERS WITH THE FRENCH UNDERGOUND
Thank you, Mr Heath. I really appreciate all your hard work
Thanks Jessica.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I've met one of the Sobibor survivors! She and her husband escaped together and later got married. He's since died, but she lives along the Connecticut shoreline
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hello
Would the woman's name happen to be Selma?
Dear Alan, Thank you So much for making the effort of posting all this on YT. We must never forget . . . From France 👒
Thanks Krstine. I have a lot of material on all the Nazi death camps in Poland.
I listened and watched many many testimonies for years. Sometimes it gets emotionally too much though.
It burns me to know how the Germans got away with bloody murder. I always recall the image of the Nazi aiming his rifle at a mother cuddling her baby. US Britain and the Soviets drop the ball big time. The Jews should be given their own land in Germany. Now all that occupation in Israel just complicating more shit
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I know which photo you're speaking of. About two years ago, I saw an explanation for that photo in the Ukraine, and it explained that even though it looks like the soldier is shooting the woman, he's actually aiming past her at some Russian fighters. One thing that was pointed out was that the two rifle barrels on the left are also aimed, but at a higher level than the people on the right of the photo.
I don't remember where I saw this nor can I find it again.
Not sure if that's true or not.
Many of my relatives were sent here after being deported from Vienna in 1941/1942 to various ghettos in Poland, while others were sent directly to Maly Trostinec in Belarus (including an 8 year old boy) or Auschwitz (after going through the Mechelen transit camp in Belgium). From the ghettos they were sent to Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor. Really sad that an entire part of my family was wiped out - husbands and wives separated from each other and from their kids, most likely never to see them again. My new obsession is to figure out where they went and try to find out more about them!
As far as Vienna is concerned, a large part went via Izbica Lubelska or Mielec and ended up being murdered in Bełżec, if they were did not die en route. I don't think that they would have been killed at either Treblinka or Sobibór. Transports from Melechen would, as you say, have gone to Auschwitz.
@@VanlifewithAlan Thanks for the info Alan, if you have any other good resources please let know!
O.k. thanks, I thought I was thinking of the right place! Also thanks for posting these videos. I would of never known what some of these places looked like if it wasn't for your videos!
Excellent video. I recently read a very good book called "Escape From Sobibior." I've heard that it is still possible to kick up bone and hair fragments in the woods of Sobibor. What a place.
If you ever read Chaim Engles account of Sobibor you will see that he too said the barracks where the victims undressed and had their hair cut was indeed only feet from the gas chamber. I believe Mr. Engle said "10 feet".
For those of us, like myself, who will probably never get to go to pay our respects, I thank you for sharing. God Bless.
Lived in berlin Germany and visited sachsenhausen. Sunday afternoon. Went down into the mortuary alone, tiled, arched. The underground punishment block. Just incredible. The impact of it is absolutely like a huge wave rolling over you. I can still recall every detail. A very dear friend said it best. "Here in Germany we keep the small rules. But we break the big ones." I loved the Germans (mostly!). I'm an island monkey and I did notice how much in common we had.
Great Job Alan. I really enjoyed the footage and your detailed commentary. Thanks for sharing.
this is history
The civilians knew for very many kilometres around what was going on here.
No they didn't Sobibor village is miles from the camp. Until post war there was no road to the camp. Access by rail only. Obviously locals could smell it but not get near.
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I must add that there must very well have been a road to the death camp. This is due to the statements of Rudolf Höß (camp commander Auschwitz). He had stated in his interrogation that he had visited a "Camp Wolzek near Lublin".
An explanation for the name "Wolzek near Lublin" can be obtained by approaching the camp by car: Driving east out of Chełm (east of Lublin), to the northeast is the small town of Włodawa. In front of it is the village Sobibór and still about 5 km before it the village Wołczyny (German: Wolzek). Shortly after the village of Wołczyny turn west and after almost 3 km you will reach the extermination camp Sobibor. The village of Sobibor is not passed on this route. The last place before the Sobibor extermination camp is the village of Wołczyny.
I refer to this source: Interrogation Minutes of March 14, 1946 (Document NO-1210).
@@dariow7950 As far as I am aware Rudolf Hoess was never at Sobibor Camp - why should he be. When I went there 1:1 with my Polish guide - He told me the access road now, was built Post War. At that time in Poland train travel for goods and other things to and from the camp was easy. Trains bringing in Jews also.
The civilians were Poles.
The film ESCAPE FROM SOBIBOR .led me to know more about this tragedy ,its rilly sad ,that many jews met their death from that place .itsone of the historical places i want to visit one day .kato from uganda -africa
Thanks for posting these vids. Disturbing to see that the camps are actually located in beautiful regions of Poland....
I have watched other videos of survivors who said, if there had been grass on the ground then, they would have eaten it
thanks for your very good research and your efforts in showing us these places !!!! Saw the movie Escape from Sobibor yday...and now seeing this video makes me to corelate the horrible things that would have happened back then !!! nice video !! thx !!
All of the 'funnels' were like that. They wanted the prisoners to go in as quickly as possible in theory but on reading Gitta Sereny's interviews with Franz Stangl you can see that people knew what was going to happen when they waited there and they defecated in fear. Stangl suggested leaving buckets there but Christian Wirth said to leave the excrement as it could be cleaned up later.
A man after my own heart. For many many years I've wanted to visit the camps & maybe will soon have the opportunity. Do you have any recommendations, i.e in as original condition as can be ?. Many thanks for the footage very informative, great job.
I would say that the most original condition of the camp is probably at Treblinka where the forest is much the same as it was although the nearby train stop is gone.
@@VanlifewithAlan Many thanks Alan, will hopefully be there soon !! 🙏.
Thankyou. You handle a profoundly horrible subject with good research and simple presentation.
You are the one that suggested the RAF did something about it. I asked you what aircraft could do so? Flying from what base?
I suspect you will not be able to give an answer.
Locals knew perfectly well what was happening - not that they were in any position to do anything about it of course.
Please remove any post by haters.
@@MBJanus That is the best thing to do. There is no point in arguing with the brain dead conspiracist haters who are unable to provide answers just repeat the same things over and over again.
I wished your vid was longer however incredible research and reporting. Why do you think the trail to gas chamber is a little more to the right? And another question how close was the Polish farmers from the camp?
I just came across your channel today am a kid I was born 1998 I don't really know much about the Sobibor history but I watched the movie in 2012 the movie came in 1987 am from Africa my name is Emmette Morris Zeah from the movie tells me that the story is a real life story I shed tears each time I watched that movie and I have watched it like for almost 95 times now in my life and I still watching it again in 2023 I always feels goosebumps on my skin it's actually real rest in peace to all those people who passed away at the Sobibor camp and all those who lost their great great grandfather mothers brothers and sisters my condolences to them and to all our brave people that survive Sobibor up to this day and still alive may you continue to live long and keep narrating the history to the next generation that's coming
Excellent video. Thanks for the upload. It was very well organized.
When I arrived in Germany in 1964 to start my time in the British army of the Rhine, we were taken to hohne by Belsen, what I could never understand is the locals saying "we didn't know". Far better to admit " we knew or suspected but could do nothing"
We Americans and the British did what in the Middle East again? How much "collateral damage" in Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Ukraine?
Yes, I've had this conversation with Germans. They were especially upset because they were chastened by "wars of aggression".
Thank you for your comments. If he thinks so strongly about it then he should send me a camera! I have already paid for the transport and time off work to get there. As of today I have not received a new camera but I have little doubt that in the name of the victims this character will soon be sending one!
Thank you for this video man
Just watched the Russian movie Sobibor.It was spine chilling.My deep condolences to the family members who lost their loved ones in this tragedy.
Thank you Rohit - that is appreciated!
The Russian movie shows brick buildings and presumably a crematorium chimney. Sobibor had no brick buildings except the gas chamber and corpses were burnt on pyres as Treblinka and Belzecs. The 'Tube/Schlauch' has now been planted with conifers lining each side at Sobibor to represent how the original path was camouflaged with birch cuttings.
The thing that worries me the most about the internet is the standard of education. How can people who cannot write their own language properly have the nerve then to put comments on public fora (or should I say forums?). For a non native speaker it is fair enough ..... it beats me what schools are doing....
Alan Heath To busy focusing on political correctness which is extreamly important if they're to not resist repopulation? Its why great emphasis is placed on attendance as any brainwashing missed could mean future resistance?
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@@cheesetomato9140 As Alan Heath said,”people who cannot write their own language properly,” you being one of them!
Alan, let’s put English use or Gammar to one side, how about you going back to school and learning about MODERN HISTORY - many Jews from Europe & the USA ended up in Palestine and yes they went through horrendous treatment in Eastern Europe but those survivors ought to have known better than to simply became persecutors of a different, innocent people - The Palestinians. Would you want to leave the UK and live in Gaza Alan? Go on, experience it and then make a video of your stay to illuminate us of your experience.
Thank you so much for sharing...
Visitied countless times Alan, but your video is extremely informative and you have a passion for the Holocaust as I do. Keep up the good work.
I will do an update one day Martin!
Martin & Alan, you both are beyond belief - re-living the holocaust, when there is plenty more to discuss about MODERN DAY ATROCITIES - try Gaza or The West Bank.
Hello, Mr. Heath.
When you were in Sobibor, have you observed that in places where prisoners were killed - where today there are several trees - birds do not sing?
Is there such absolute silence in some places, or is it just a rumor?
I was in Auschwitz last year and I saw that is no true, but I don't know about Sobibor...
It is not true Murilo. Like yourself, I stood at Birkenau and listened to the birds.
@@VanlifewithAlan Thanks a lot, Mr. Heath.
That was said about the camp of Natzweiler in France. I went there twice and a friend told the little group that no birds were singing, that was true, silence only. But honestly the trees were distant and I dont recall the season of the year.
@alanheath I found your video very interesting. Can anyone walk the grounds of were the camp used to be?Are there restrictions? Have human remains been found?
Some excavation has been done fairly recently and the foundations of the gas chamber (presumably) were found. In the woods to the left of the memorial is a plot with no/little trees or bushes. This maybe 10 metres wide and thirty long looks like a mass grave even if it was for the ashes of those killed.
I have not received a new camera yet. When did you sent it?
@jdolce101 I was wondering if this incredably brave woman wrote a memoir about her experience in Sobibor. How did you get in contact with her?
I am deeply saddened at the atrosities man can commit against one another.
It was Germans. Man got nothing to do with it
I am very glad to know they were useful to you!
Today I was filming the Lublin ghetto!
My father's cousin died in Sobibor, along with his mother, father and twin brother. They had tried to get them out of Germany without success.
Do you know which town they came from Malcolm?
@@VanlifewithAlan They came from Leipzig Germany
So your family was german?
I’ve heard that these Operations Reinhard camps are rarely visited compared to better known camps. Glad this guy let us all see it
Alan, sorry to trouble you, but could you please explain to me what is meant by the "Sobibor Paradox"? I'm using a library internet service which blocks me out at the merest mention of anything to do with the Holocaust (I'm surprised that it allowed me in here), so I can't research a thing.
Thank you in advance.
Never forget, thank you!
Do you get nervous when you speak or are you having a hard time reading something?
As I mentioned earlier, if you don't like it then don't watch. Simple, problem solved.
Was the schlaug (sp?) really this long? Different than in other camps right? Like the interview from Lanzmann with suchomel
Yes, this follows the path of where it was based on archaeological evidence. This was the longest of all - much longer than at Treblinka or at Bełżec. (At Chełmno there was not one as people were loaded directly on the lorries.)
Yes I have heard about all the others, or saw them on a map or model, that's why I was surprised this one was so long. Its a subject so large, I will never be able to learn everything . But I try. May be weird to most people, I can't explain it.
@@junobardo376 Where did you see this, please ? I believed that nothing remained of the Reynhard camps, except photos of the zoo of Treblinka and some others in a SS's album.
03:45 This funnel in Sobibor was created *before* the one in Treblinka (starting operation april 42 vs july 42). As Treblinka is regarded to be the perfected death camp, learning from Belzec and Sobibor, maybe the Germans thought the funnel in Sobibor to be too long?
The path/schlauch was long. In fact when Stangl arrived at Sobibor as Kommandant BEFORE the trains were due and the camp was being set up, his colleague Suchomel told him 'look what I have found in the woods' this turned out to be the gas chamber and all the SS had come from the T4 Euthenasia programme.
I was told the camp even had a short airstrip behind the intake buildings. It was used only once when Himmler visited...Not sure when this happened...
Браво Alan. Ты старается чтобы не забудем историю 👍
Thankyou Alan, a very poignant video.It is heartbreaking and inconceivable to imagine this happened. I totally agree that all generations need to learn just what evil people the Nazi regime produced....yours sincerely and respectfully, Ted the Jew.
Jess F how very proud you must be of him bless him x
Before the camp, was there anything at Sobibor?
Yes, there was even a large tower there used by the forestry workers. There was a a forestry business there.
@@VanlifewithAlan I didn't know that, thank you very much.
Alan Heath. I have viewed many of your videos. I know this is an old post. I just wanted you to know that most people have no qualms about advertising their ignorance in public. Better to ignore them. Very difficult to do but all they want is attention. I refuse to give it to them. Your work is right and just. Well done.
Thanks Ginger. What gets me is those idiots complaining at the bad camera - and expecting a camera and UA-cam to work in 2007 like they now do in 2018.
"It beats me what schools are doing".
Tell me about it.
My sister and her husband are both English teachers, and they spend their entire lives bashing their heads against brick walls. The fact is, you cannot educate people who do not want to be taught. It is a sad reflection of the youth today, that many of them regard being thick - or seen as thick - as a badge of honour. If they want to learn they do; if they don't, they end up like that baboon. Worse still, they're proud of it.
ITS HISTORY IT SHOULD BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS
I have got various films with people who were there. Obviously you could not be bothered to check. Your level of English clearly indicates your intellectual level.
Ive read numerous books and testimonials from the many survivors. I started researching this topic about 11 years ago. I always wanted to know HOW something this horrible could flourish the way it did. Killing prisoners was their business. The town residents were lying when they said they had no idea what was going on down the road. They all knew, including the US.
In this case, everyone knew in the villages around what was happening. There is no doubt about that.
Mr Heath, thank you for your detailed video. I wonder if you are interested in what is happening TODAY in Gaza or The West Bank? Come on Alan, let’s hear what you have to say on this.
Did the Sobibor sign that stands at the beginning exist during the war? My great grandmother and great great aunt arrived there in the first transports. They were in their 50's, so I imagine they were killed on arrival. Great video.
I don't know if that particular sign was there but it certainly looks as though it could have been! I have much more on Sobibór on this site if you are interested!
Thanks for your response. I have watched several of your videos throughout the last few years. You have some interesting ones on Jack The Ripper, if I recall correctly. I will definitely take a good look at your other uploads.
This is very sad..
Excellent video, thank you 👍
Thanks Binary. I lived with someone who escaped from Sobibór so have more videos with him, talking about Sobibór and other things.
@@VanlifewithAlan wow, I'll certainly check them out, thanks again 👍
@swiftshaw No, they were not. What is your source? Someone who was there? Or, did you make it up yourself.
Before making such comments I suggest YOU do some research and you can start by asking those who witnessed events.
Say I thought I ask this, Why did they kept the large guard tower standing after the SS tore down the rest of the camp and I heard the large tower that is standing today is not the original is that true?
It is not a guard tower. It is to watch out for forest fires. As a guard tower it would be nearly useless as whereas guards could see what was happening, they could not shoot.because of the steep angle! The tower there today is not the original!
ah I see. I saw on maps and the model made by Blat that they did have a large Tower but as you said shooting from it would have been useless. Thanks for the info again. ^^
The fire watch tower has now gone from the memorial.
@vrederik7, Yes, I agree the camera is quite shaky but it is NOT a dishonour to the victims. As long as my generation and generations to come can see what happened to the poor souls that is honour enough. We must ensure that people can see these videos wether they be shaky or not.
@alanheath, thank you for the video, this is one of the first times I have seen footage from Sobibor. One of my friends great grandparents were at Sobibor.
Great video. Thanks a lot!!
And what aeroplane had a range of reaching Sobibór?
I can understand next to nothing of that. Did they teach grammar at your school or can't you be bothered to write properly?
Alan - have you seen the newly discovered photos of Sobibor ?
I have seen around five of them. I wrote something about it on my Facebook page.
@@VanlifewithAlan Did you notice the camouflage fencing which is described by the survivors ?
@@VanlifewithAlan Photos in Sobibor ? Where could I find them please ?
@@MBJanus I have them but have not posted them yet. I think they will be on the website of the Holocaust Museum in Washington. If not, I will try and post them when I can.
@swiftshaw Still don't know what these alleged 'other errors' are. Will I ever find out?
is there any one lived, who was there??? in the Sobibor ??
I'm going to have a look, thank you! :-)
Alan Heath thanks so much for this video I just subscribed
BTW...the place looks so deserted and also a lil eery..!! Is this quite accessible for a foreign tourist !! I mean are there some regular buses or trains from nearby important city ? And BTW...the silence in this place definitely makes it more eery..I cant imagine travelling alone to this place at night !!!
have you gone and checked out buchenwald?
Buchenwald as Bergen-Belsen were freed by USA and UK respectively, with hundred or thousands of corpses piled up. They were not death camps but Himmler didnt want to leave prisoners to russians and Western camps were overcrowded, without food and even water. Movies were done and show what they discovered.
80% of my whole family was murdered in sobibor !!!
I am sorry. I can't even imagine
Wait weren't they enslaved first? This was exclusively an execution camp?
@legendwarrior85 It is difficult to get to if you don't have a car. Train to Wlodawa and then maybe there are buses to Chełm but you would still have to walk around 8km from the main road! I think renting a car is the only sensible option!
@carllutz You said earlier (under a different alias of course) that I very soon would not be a historian. I understand quite clearly what you meant. I get from neo Nazis around three death threats a year. This was the first time however from a non neo Nazi.
2:25 did that guy in the Volkswagen give you any trouble?
So good movie thank you
they should make these camps exactly how they looked at the time.
Thanks Ted. I have a lot more on this subject as well as a facebook group if you are interested.
@legendwarrior85 This week is the anniversary - on Friday. I usually go but there is likely to be snow and I don't like driving in the snow!
I have a lot more of material from Sobibór here!
Excellent 👍👍👍👍👍👍
What does uprising mean?
Revolt.
@@VanlifewithAlan Thanks
@@VanlifewithAlan Thanks
Have you ever heard of a Stabilizer or Tripod for a camera? The constant shaking of the camera destroys the clip!
Can you send one?
Oh I get it, they were pretty much tricked. I read that at one of the death camps the SS actually made a building look like a train station, but in reality it was the building that was used to store all of the victims belongings. It was very humorous to the SS. Not sure if it was at Sobibor though.
It was in Treblinka, another of the death camps in Poland.
@carllutz You may do whatever you like (barring your earlier threat to kill me). I do not know how many aliases you have but you have made your point.
@kintalber1 OK then I will specifically check that. I have specifically checked on the arrivals at Sobibór.
Another thing....... Anyone see the new "Sobibor"? The Russian version that just came out? Did Sobibor look anything like that at all? Anyone know? Alan? I'm confused on how to see it in my mind. Movie has almost like a brick fortress looking thing.
@alanheath It would not have made sense to have them be that close. It would have made all the other attempts at concealment pointless). The entrance to the tube may have been 10 feet, but certainly not the chambers. The original configuration of Belzec was certainly quite close - see Alex Bay's reconstruction of the camp from Nazi recon photos at the Holocaust History Project website - but the reconfigured camp was much longer, as was Treblinka)
Psychological so that they do not see what is ahead. The tube was bent for this reason. That way they would still have hope that they were not going to be killed.
I am sorry but I do not know what Sobibor Paradox means!
@kintalber1 I personally know Jules Schelvis. I have also spoken to people who were in the camp - and filmed them on this channel. They were there and they disagree.
It is you who is giving misinformation.
Oh wow Did you know Jules Schelvis?. He passed away not too long ago.
You won't be bored in Sobibor!
Turn up the volume!
@Robby334 No medical problem is silly, most of us probably have medical problems which may seem silly to others. I hope that there is something you can do to get over it.
I wish to visit Poland some day to go and see the death camp of Sobibor
@kintalber1 You are jealous and pathetic. Infantile. You have even banned me from making comments on your channel and removed my comments. Totally pathetic.
I am often wrong but there is a way of making criticism without letting jealousy enter into it.
I have spoken to people who unloaded the trains. You have not nor have even read their accounts.
I am not interested in any further correspondence with an infant - grow up and attempt to control this absurd jealousy of yours.
ANNA HAAS SHULZ SOBIBOR MAY 7 1943 R I P
Must suck to own that hous. The agian cool to see whats in the walls.
@catopolak I don't think the comment was directed at you!
I'd recommend a video camera anyway, not pocket size. The thing is, the heavier the camera, the less prone it is to shaking. That's the burden of someone shooting video!
Read an article about the holocaust and according to that writer, sobibor would be the absolute most secret death machine within the SS holocaust fence. But fortunately, it was also one of the few camps where the prisoners managed to escape and draw attention to the crimes that the Nazis tried to hide here! 250 thousand humans was murded here!! It's terrible thinking about this!! rest in peace we will never forget you!
Thomas 'Tovi' Blatt a survivor, called the path Road To Heaven.