Bamboo vs Carbon Arrows --- "WHICH IS BEST?" & (The basic differences)

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  • @danielmiller2886
    @danielmiller2886 3 роки тому +1

    Bro, I am super impressed with your humility of showing that badly missed shot not once but multiple times. I respect you.

  • @danielbuhler2067
    @danielbuhler2067 3 роки тому +7

    Love my bamboo arrows! It is hard to find a good source for the shafts to be consistent but I still prefer them over every other material. I have always told people that Bamboo is the carbon fiber of the natural world. Thanks for the video

  • @tonetone8980
    @tonetone8980 3 роки тому +1

    Just bought my first bow. Thanks for the videos

  • @0418baker
    @0418baker 3 роки тому +4

    Keeping me “humble” is exactly why I made the switch! Couldn’t have said it any better my friend. Keep it up!! Great stuff.

  • @charlescox6190
    @charlescox6190 3 роки тому +5

    I followed your DIY longbow build tutorial from late 2019 and it worked! I was shooting at 65 pounds after a few weeks of slowly tillering my own piece of Home Depot Oak and drywall tape. I've since picked up a take down recurve with an aluminum riser and, while I've been enjoying it just fine, It definitely doesn't have the "It" factor of a bow you made yourself.

  • @nivekollitsac4260
    @nivekollitsac4260 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for inspiring me to start archery and for teaching me

  • @raymondbailey2142
    @raymondbailey2142 3 роки тому +1

    Been about 40 yrs since I shot a bow and have been thinking of getting into it again. I love watching your channel for this very reason. You are great for giving informative reviews and advice for someone like me.

  • @stevejenkins9984
    @stevejenkins9984 3 роки тому +3

    This channel has inspired me for years I've been making close. I have been an archery traditionalist since 5 years old. As a kid I always chose my Longbow over my compounds. I think it's time to start recording I'm going to try a channel it's been cool to see the way yours has grown and what you can do with it

  • @sticky7ninja
    @sticky7ninja 3 роки тому +4

    Getting back into archery for the first time in 20 years, these videos have really made researching good products so easy. Shatterproof archery is selling is top quality too!

  • @mellissamiller1886
    @mellissamiller1886 3 роки тому +1

    love your channel, it inspired me to start my own/first bow build

  • @m.pearce3273
    @m.pearce3273 3 роки тому +1

    I rightly appreciate as some one who's preparing for what's to Come and I find this series very well done and easy to follow as I see you pdf the plans and materials list

  • @deijavoodoo366
    @deijavoodoo366 3 роки тому +7

    I would love to see more of these videos, taking a more direct approach to the different materials used for arrows / arrow builds.

  • @lucpet95
    @lucpet95 3 роки тому

    It's great to get this kind of video as no one else seems to bother with information like this

  • @TheBigAlarcon
    @TheBigAlarcon 3 роки тому +2

    I like the more traditional archery because it IS humbling. I'm a firearms instructor for the Navy and (being honest, not bragging) a damned good shot with a rifle.
    The bow. . .Well, let's just say it made me feel like a "new shooter" all over again. And, if I'm being honest, it was the first video I'd seen of yours (not YOUR first, a first for me) on building a $15 bow that piqued my interest. So, thank you for that. Maybe one day, I'll go wood for my arrows, but I'm really, REALLY enjoying traditional archery (with carbon, haha!), because it's more challenging than using something with sights & mechanical release devices. One day, though, I'll make my own.

  • @billpalmer8380
    @billpalmer8380 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks Kramer, your comments about “the it factor” says it all. I’m currently following your same path. I started with compound bows, but I just didn’t enjoy Archery with them as I do with a Recurve bow. I am now getting into making my own traditional arrows and this last video was a great inspiration to try Bamboo too. Thanks again!! Bill

  • @mass4552
    @mass4552 3 роки тому +1

    I hope to make my own bow when I get the chance and the skills you shared with your viewers like myself is invaluable. I've always loved bows and shooting. Now I just have to start converting the extra bedroom in my apartment into a wood shop.

  • @HuebertEllowit-LOL
    @HuebertEllowit-LOL 3 роки тому +15

    I'm almost finished making my first bow and was wondering what kind of arrows to get. I'm leaning towards bamboo simply because I like the feel of having fully natural archery set-up. Simple wooden long bow with wooden arrows, idk. Just me I guess lol

    • @JustAdude93
      @JustAdude93 2 роки тому

      How did it go man?? I just ordered a Black Hunter on Amazon to get into archery and been watching a lot of video on bow making and definitely want to “give it a shot” sometime. Feeling the same way with the arrows though.

    • @jamessan3404
      @jamessan3404 2 роки тому

      Pinewood maybe? Should be strong enough

    • @dennislock3415
      @dennislock3415 2 роки тому

      We use to use cedar shafts.

  • @mykr0324
    @mykr0324 3 роки тому +1

    Cool vid. Always wondered about bamboo arrows

  • @UTxTheArchangel
    @UTxTheArchangel 3 роки тому +1

    I'm enjoying the continued growth. I've been watching your channel for a long time, the other day saw someone do a review of your flemish string. Thought it was cool to see someone review a creator I often watching. Got the flemish myself, waiting on getting a Black Hunter to test it on that. Thinking about switching to using tabs, so have my eyes on your split finger tabs and arm guards. They look so well made. And if they are anything like the flemish string, then I know quality will be top shelf.
    As for Bamboo vs Carbon, Carbon are my daily shooting arrows. I use bamboo on special bows like my Hankyu. Bows like that I feel deserve to be shot with more traditional arrows vs modern.

  • @robertlee8400
    @robertlee8400 3 роки тому +6

    I’ve shot just about every kind of arrow out there for the past 28 years & I have to say I love the carbons . Bamboo,s worst enemy is moisture, & once moisture sets in to a bamboo arrow it’s done . Carbon on the other hand is 10 times stronger than steel if the overlap & Chris cross pattern is there in the material . I seen a guy with a 200 pound draw @ 28 inches use carbon arrows & shot a 3/8 inch thick piece of steel at 20 yards just to see if the arrow shaft would hold up & I have to say the tip was destroyed but the arrow held up to the impact very well didn’t crack or anything . Dude did this about 6 times just destroy tip after tip & the carbon arrow came out of it unscathed each & every time .

  • @mussmuzzer
    @mussmuzzer 3 роки тому +1

    have you ever tried choke cherry sinew backed bow i made one few years back it’s just under 40lbs

  • @diy-hyrum9842
    @diy-hyrum9842 3 роки тому +2

    I'm waiting for you to start marketing some bows for sale! Got quite a bit of your merch- Shirt, Cup, beenie, multiple quivers and tabs for the whole family. And every single item I've gotten from you has been top quality!!! Would love to see you sale those fiberglass/bamboo composite bows, they're clean!

  • @markstanden202
    @markstanden202 3 роки тому +2

    I'm starting my collection of Shatterproof merch off right! Got the T-shirt and travel cup... Just need to slowly add everything else! :P Those quivers and bows look awesome BTW Kramer - nicely made!

  • @lucasrogencamp4676
    @lucasrogencamp4676 3 роки тому

    U inspired me to make my first board bow, exactly 1 year ago, I failed a few times but I got there in the end.

  • @secret_agent_g5849
    @secret_agent_g5849 3 роки тому +1

    I was going to get the Kainakai 25lb draw weight bow for my first bow and I can figure out what arrow to get. I've search up spine charts but they all seem different.

  • @cyrussteele9362
    @cyrussteele9362 3 роки тому +1

    Been watching for about a year, decided recently to buy my first recurve, even though I've been shooting exclusivity compound for a while. That it factor really is the reason why. The feel and aesthetics of a recurve just stand out, and make me want to get out and shoot.

  • @buudy22
    @buudy22 3 роки тому

    Your edits just keep getting better. Nice work!

  • @johndurfee9616
    @johndurfee9616 3 роки тому +1

    I grew up shooting bow-n-arrow when in grade school I shot a Ben Pearson 28# recurve and when in my 30s I switched to a Jennings super t. I am fortunate that range finders didn't come around till I (just like you) needed something more traditional. So after reading Howard Hill's timbo I realized longbow was it. Now I shoot longbow, recurve, and reflex/reflex hibred longbow. I said all this to tell that I find I am much more comfortable shooting 3 fingers under (as you do) have you ever heard it called the Apache grip??

  • @kevincraig8257
    @kevincraig8257 3 роки тому +1

    I tried tuning my cedar arrows I can't afford to do that mine must of not even been close I broke one or mabe i should of started off the first shot ?

  • @cherokeesfinestindian
    @cherokeesfinestindian 3 роки тому +1

    Have you shot any river cane arrows? Those Chinese tonkin bamboo arrows are pretty good too. Good video.

  • @WeiAnimations
    @WeiAnimations 3 роки тому

    love the comparison arrows, the editing and quality of these keep getting better and better.

  • @brentonmackechnie702
    @brentonmackechnie702 3 роки тому +2

    I'll def be checking those bamboo arrows out - they've got "it factor" dripping out of them. I've had fun w/ carbon on my antique bow and figure it's time to play with a material like this. Your bow and quiver pairing in this vid looks awesome, btw!

  • @smurfjourneyman9814
    @smurfjourneyman9814 3 роки тому

    Thank you your videos are so helpful and packed with information. Being new to long bows after years of crossbows I'm watching as much as I can while learning to aim better.
    Keep up the good work and good shooting

  • @XenFPV
    @XenFPV 3 роки тому +1

    Just a pedantic technicallity point, a heavier arrow doesn't "drop quicker", it just travels slower from the same bow and therefore doesn't cover as much ground before dropping.

  • @brysonhillis9213
    @brysonhillis9213 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve been trying to make a board bow following your guide and would love some products. Thanks for all the videos!

  • @TheNightowl001
    @TheNightowl001 3 роки тому +6

    Yeah, I completely understand. Longbows and wooden arrows just have the "IT" factor for me, too!

  • @benjaminwinnett7269
    @benjaminwinnett7269 3 роки тому

    Love these videos dude! I just got my first bow so all this information is super useful!

  • @patrickkille1675
    @patrickkille1675 3 роки тому +2

    I like the heavier bamboo because it is easier to get that higher gpp without having to add in weight systems etc.

  • @ME-bg4qg
    @ME-bg4qg 3 роки тому

    Love all your videos man, and the products you produce at shatterproof archery are made with love. You can see it in the craftsmanship. Would be awesome to see a shatterproof archery line of arrows as well.

  • @RionCaughman
    @RionCaughman 3 роки тому

    This sounds amazing! I have never heard of bamboo arrows. Now, now I need to try.

  • @xxtotallyrandombrandonxx3093
    @xxtotallyrandombrandonxx3093 3 роки тому +1

    Man I would love to see you build a short bow, something around 56 inches that can handle a 28 inch draw

  • @samyakim4250
    @samyakim4250 3 роки тому +1

    love the videos!! im looking to get into archery and bowry and i was wondering if you'd ever consider making a traditional english longbow for a video? keep it up man.

  • @aiirdriip
    @aiirdriip 3 роки тому

    I am on my way to making a bow with my own hands, thanks to you this can come true, your videos are inspirational and exciting.

  • @kylewilkinson6975
    @kylewilkinson6975 3 роки тому +8

    "The it factor"
    Your absolutely right. When I got into archery I started trad with hickory long bow. Now recurves. Bought a dozen wooden arrows and busted them all. l replaced them but haven't shot them. Went with carbon arrows, which can take some real punishment, is forgiving and probably best for getting the most usage and longevity. But, back to first statement. Carbon doesn't have that "IT" factor just as compound or cross bows lack the soul of archery. I own two crossbows and four compounds but every time I will choose a trad bow because I want to feel that "IT" factor.

    • @gustavcrossbow2805
      @gustavcrossbow2805 3 роки тому

      what fukin soul u weirdo gripping to the old ways

    • @kylewilkinson6975
      @kylewilkinson6975 3 роки тому

      @@gustavcrossbow2805
      bows and arrows made of traditional materials and the old ways is what the video was about, If you don't understand the comment about not having the soul

    • @nixthefox2008
      @nixthefox2008 3 роки тому

      @@gustavcrossbow2805 well if you're doing archery you're kinds gripping to the old ways in general... if not then why wouldn't you shoot a gun instead? It's more modern and better. The reason Is because it's not the same, it lacks strength it factors as he says.

    • @gustavcrossbow2805
      @gustavcrossbow2805 3 роки тому

      @@nixthefox2008 i shoot a repeating crossbow, home made like joerg sprave adder but more powerful

    • @nixthefox2008
      @nixthefox2008 3 роки тому

      @@gustavcrossbow2805 cool?

  • @periclesmaillis406
    @periclesmaillis406 3 роки тому

    The layout of videos are perfect. Love them

  • @dileb112
    @dileb112 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting video!
    Would bamboo arrows need dry heat straightening from time to time if kept in rooms with fluctuating humidity?
    I saw in 2 comments that boo arrows would be made out of boo wall. I've always shot traditional bows with aluminium and carbon arrows, but I thought target shooting boo arrows are made out of small diameter, whole boo (tubular), and boo splitted wall would be used for flight arrows only (where small diameter should count more).

  • @gabrielschroff2634
    @gabrielschroff2634 3 роки тому +3

    Never shot bamboo, but I love the "it factor" you put in. I have shot Oxford cedar and Tamrick wood arrow, and lie you said, it just has the "It factor". I had to move away because of my draw length, I need 32 or longer arrows, and most of the shafts I find are 31 or under.

  • @philippeberube7586
    @philippeberube7586 3 роки тому

    Awesome video man! You're form is really improving.

  • @robcreel4257
    @robcreel4257 3 роки тому

    I'm just getting back into archery after about 40 years. I'm trying to learn as mush as I can about everything.

  • @shawnsmith5204
    @shawnsmith5204 3 роки тому +1

    How much do u charge for a traditional recurve

  • @allthingsarcheryandshootin9380
    @allthingsarcheryandshootin9380 3 роки тому

    I am really digging the quiver how do I get one it is not on your website

  • @jimnisbet1969
    @jimnisbet1969 3 роки тому

    Nice video Kramer! I’m only a year into my archery adventures. On one of my first few visits to the forest for 3d shooting, only shooting the clubs aluminium arrows, I found a wooden arrow. Shot it and got a perfect dead centre shot. My first bow was a hybrid flat bow/ longbow. Only ever shot wooden arrows since then. For me, it was all about the IT factor! The feel is completely different and more satisfying, for sure! Hope the family are well!? Stay shatterproof!

  • @CampfireKodiak
    @CampfireKodiak Рік тому

    I'm going to give wood arrows a try with my longbow. Bamboo and Doug-Fir to start with. I hope they will help with the hand-shock. Thank you!

  • @dungeon_chef
    @dungeon_chef 3 роки тому

    You rock bro, I just bought my first bow based on your recommendations. I was just debating on what kind of arrows to buy, so this video is perfectly timed!

    • @kramerammonsarchery
      @kramerammonsarchery  3 роки тому

      No way! Thanks so much Nick! Have the best of time shooting! Thanks for the major support!

  • @jameswall8406
    @jameswall8406 3 роки тому

    I’ve shot carbon and wood but I’ve never shot Bamboo. Great video and it has given me something to ponder.

  • @Michael_Kerstein
    @Michael_Kerstein 3 роки тому +1

    So why do you put your arrow rest on the inside instead of outside?

  • @rjhelmick3381
    @rjhelmick3381 3 роки тому

    I love this page. I have learned so much from it.

  • @randomorder8141
    @randomorder8141 3 роки тому

    Good video, was looking at some bamboo arrows this morning. Thanks!!

  • @andyrusscher2271
    @andyrusscher2271 3 роки тому

    Great video Kramer! All the arrows I made for my hickory longbow have been made from Port Orford Cedar as it was the recommendation from my bow building instructor. They're soft and need straightening frequently. I'd be curious to see a comparison, similar to this video, of all the major arrow materials.

  • @calebcostello9258
    @calebcostello9258 3 роки тому

    Just recently found you on here and love the content that you put out. I’m looking forward to all the future videos! Great work!

  • @VeeDub_in_da_House
    @VeeDub_in_da_House 3 роки тому

    Those Bamboo arrows are way more resilient than I thought they would be!

  • @FPSWildlifeAngler
    @FPSWildlifeAngler 3 роки тому

    will flex seal work tape work as a bow backing ?

  • @luizbertoneto
    @luizbertoneto 3 роки тому +1

    Trying to get back to it

  • @thomascalton3067
    @thomascalton3067 3 роки тому

    Great video. I loved the product torture test demonstration of you shaking the dog water out of the strap on quiver. 😁

  • @El_mas_grande66
    @El_mas_grande66 3 роки тому +2

    Make a how to make bamboo clip please

  • @notapplicable531
    @notapplicable531 3 роки тому +1

    For what it's worth, the bamboo arrows I use are Korean ones which I shoot using a Korean hornbow. As to weight, they are 310 grains with a two-grain tolerance. FOC is less than 10 millimetres in a set of thirty. The fletcher I deal with is a master of his craft. Carbon equivalents, as to length and spine, weigh 375 grains. So much for bamboo being heavier.
    Bamboo have greater drop due to the factor of air resistance. That comes from the surface being irregular compared to carbon, and the feathers certainly not being as smooth as plastic vanes. Surface area for feathers is also greater. Bamboo de-accelerate more thus taking longer to get to the target and having gravity pulling on them for a longer period of time.
    If you hit a rock straight on, bamboo will break. That kind of de-acceleration will simply flex the arrow too much and the arrow will break at one of the nodes., usually the first or sencond of the three that Korean arrows have. Nodes are definitely the weakest part of a bamboo arrow. I have a cabinet full of examples to this.
    Oddly enough, some bamboo arrows will break directly behind the point. It's like the insert end of the point acts as a fulcrum and the bamboo shaft outside of the point snaps off on this fulcrum. I have a feeling the striking of the rock, in this case, is slightly off 90 degrees. I can't think of any other explanation.
    One last point not mentioned is that bamboo will "warp" as bamboo shafts do not start out straight and have been "straightened". They will tend to want to go back to their original shape.

  • @joerodriguez9004
    @joerodriguez9004 3 роки тому

    Just ordered my second bow string great product.

  • @danniandersen5858
    @danniandersen5858 3 роки тому

    Would love a introduction to archery video series were you bring a friend or family member that want to learn it.
    Then start from nothing, introduce her/him to it, show them how to choose a bow and other gear and teach them and bring all of their questions along.

  • @trevorandrews5793
    @trevorandrews5793 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the info. I am about half way through building my fist poplar and fiberglass bow.
    Haven't shot a bow in about 10 years, so why not make one right?

  • @buildr3303
    @buildr3303 3 роки тому

    Was missing your videos, now want that quiver!

  • @christopherconnelly6912
    @christopherconnelly6912 3 роки тому

    I started out shooting traditional, and then switched to compounds. I am now back to traditional because of the "IT" factor. Good video.

  • @patrickbass3118
    @patrickbass3118 2 роки тому

    Hey Kramer, how about for hunting? Would these two materials serve the same for a traditional bow hunter?

  • @qqg
    @qqg 3 роки тому +1

    I make my own arrows. My one issue with bamboo arrows (which I like very much) is that 99.99% of the bamboo shafts are baked at high-ish temps to accelerate the drying/seasoning and also for the straightening process. This makes them a little stiffer which is not bad per se, but also quite brittle.

  • @twintwo1429
    @twintwo1429 Рік тому

    I got it. Just ordered 24 carbon shafts with really good looking bamboo graphics. But I have natural bamboo shafts also. They are great.

  • @jasonthulen
    @jasonthulen 3 роки тому

    The “it” factor is where it’s at. I love your video’s. Stay shatter Proff

  • @SuperGnick
    @SuperGnick 3 роки тому

    Awesome video. Hope to see some bow build video again soon.

  • @jakefehr9681
    @jakefehr9681 3 роки тому

    Just starting to make bows, and hopefully arrows will be next!

  • @AdolfoSalasfrost
    @AdolfoSalasfrost 3 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Can talk about arrow sizes too? Thanks

  • @BobosTsotsos
    @BobosTsotsos 3 роки тому

    Oh, that was nice dude!
    Good job mate!

  • @coreyweimer2687
    @coreyweimer2687 3 роки тому

    Hoping to get back into archery this year!

  • @CaptiveReefSystems
    @CaptiveReefSystems 3 роки тому +1

    "Kramer Ammons" is definitely the name of a Medieval archer! 😎🤘

  • @bigDbigDbigD
    @bigDbigDbigD 10 місяців тому

    I have shot wood arrows for 40 years. No bamboo. Mostly cedar. Some ash. Always were everything I needed

  • @asc3ndantone
    @asc3ndantone 3 роки тому

    I'm new to archery and got a 45-60 pound compound bow, what arrows 🏹 would you recommend for me to get?🤔

  • @johnpreston4938
    @johnpreston4938 3 роки тому

    I really like your hip side quiver, it's a quiver that I can get used to, I'm in the process of making a bow, I want to see if I can make a pyramid or molledabet bow and add dry wall tape

  • @allthingsarcheryandshootin9380
    @allthingsarcheryandshootin9380 3 роки тому

    Awsome video Kramer so how did you like the bamboo arrows. you should let me send you a dozen of my port orford cedar shafts. I think you will like them as well

  • @relativisticvel
    @relativisticvel 3 роки тому

    Thought about trying a compound bow?

  • @eageus7844
    @eageus7844 3 роки тому

    ive been wanting to get a few quivers for my bows

  • @Imperator-el4nt
    @Imperator-el4nt Рік тому

    What do you think about wood and aluminium arrows?

  • @chadainsworth8432
    @chadainsworth8432 3 роки тому

    Enjoy your videos. Always informative.

  • @DudesIn101
    @DudesIn101 3 роки тому

    I like what your doin,thanks for making archery cool again ...

  • @randymacsgarage
    @randymacsgarage 3 роки тому

    im in it to win it thanks krammer i appreciate all you do for the bow community

  • @thetruthhertz2970
    @thetruthhertz2970 3 роки тому

    I bought one of your strings on amazon and its awesome. I need a new glove, but they all have a lip on the fingers where the extra leather is sewn. Do u make gloves? I've never used a tab

  • @jkhippie5929
    @jkhippie5929 2 роки тому

    Where is a good place to get cheap sinew ?

  • @yarkieto
    @yarkieto 3 роки тому

    Great comparison, would like to see a self made arrow video in the future.

  • @professionalrookie8771
    @professionalrookie8771 3 роки тому

    Love your content man made me dust off my Sage and start shooting again. Strings a little bit ratty but still shoots well. I remember hitting a rock once shooting aluminum arrows and the thing exploded was cool to watch though with how much arrows cost I'd definitely avoid doing it for fun.

  • @FrightfulLink24Playz
    @FrightfulLink24Playz 3 роки тому

    Interesting take. I would agree with you on this. I would definitely prefer wood or bamboo over carbon any day. Not just because they are physically more appealing to fantasy/medieval/traditional archery geeks, but also because they have a deeper history and you feel less like a run of the mill compound archer who is sight aiming with a bow that makes things easier for you. I like a traditional outfit because it tests me as a person, not my equipment.
    Blessings on you and your business. Keep doing what you do: showing people an underappreciated art.

  • @adityakaushik3865
    @adityakaushik3865 3 роки тому

    amazing plans for the flat bow I just finished a 53 pound bow.

  • @Six4691
    @Six4691 2 роки тому

    Hey Kramer, love your channel. Just curious why in the new videos the comments are turned off? Great work and I enjoy following your journey!

  • @danielcline7413
    @danielcline7413 3 роки тому

    I own a pinto a 25lb ben Pearson recurve beautiful bow quite long and a real joy to shoot I'm with you!

  • @frederikkfoglfrey8664
    @frederikkfoglfrey8664 3 роки тому

    Love the channel, learning a lot...🙏🙌💪