RTX 3090 ASUS - Liquid Metal DISASTER | Repair
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2022
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how much would this kind of repair have cost?
You've convinced me to never use liquid metal!
This is nothing short of pain. Gave me anxiety knowing the work ahead as you broke down the issues. As resources get more scarce, this work will continue to grow in value. Thanks for sharing your patience and passion with us. Whoever made this mess should never touch another GPU again, what an absolute disaster😂😂 thanks for giving us content though!
What amazing work. This further solidifies my position of never using liquid metal on anything.
liquid metal is one of the most stupid ideas to come by for a person that isn't try to make it into guinness book of records or something in the likes ...
There are alternatives with just a little less thermal conductivity compared to Liquid metal, but are 100% safe for use even by a donkey!
The thermal conductivity of the thermal paste is of less significance than people think anyways ... the heat conduction amount is strongly dependent on the thickness of the layer:
If you have like 0,05mm thickness layer of thermal paste between the components, the influence of that tiny layer on the total conductivity of the system is just marginal.
Liquid metal instead of a good & safe thermal paste gives u like (i am just estimating) an extra 1-5% of overall heat transfer boost, but boosts the risk of destroying your stuff from 0% up to like 50% or so.
its just not worth it ...
Whats FAR MORE IMPORTANT is the overall performance of the heat transfer capability of the thing you mounted "on the other side" of the thermal paste.
a stupid box cooler with liquid metal will perform far worse than a decent 360 AIO with mustard between CPU and pump head.
play smart, not hard!
@@itsjustaname7311 not really. Loads of people use liquid metal with zero issues. If it is applied correctly you can get a great drop in temperature, although it makes much more sense on a delid CPU rather than a GPU.
The issue with liquid metal is that most users do not understand it's application. The smallest of the amount goes a long way. However, a lot of people are of the mindset if little works great, more will work better, unfortunately, that tends to have the opposite effect for liquid metal. More is BAD as you increase chance of squeeze out and then the rest is history.
It is a GREAT product, however, it's not for everyone and more people are prone to using it incorrectly. Thus why we see an increase is these type of problems.
@@moes2168 indeed ... it kinda blows yer mind how far a tiny tiny little drop of LM can be spread ... and that is all that is required, the thinnest coat possible .. no puddles, drops, pools or runs .. just a smear of a coating. I love the stuff, used it on several builds with zero issues.
@@itsjustaname7311 But LM is not for stupid people, test your IQ before using it.
Such great work! I''d love to step up to this level. Many larger channels on youtube only seem to care about maximising the amount of money they can get from repairs, you just want to prove it can be done. Excellent job.
Thank you, unfortunately is true
It's business logic. This type of repair is extremely complicated.
@@llamapi3 yeah I'm aware of that, but there are people out there deeming things unfixable that I'm pretty certain they just don't have much knowledge on. Just don't take up GPU repairs if you're going to keep saying they're unfixable while taking attempted repair fees.
@@KrisFixGermanygeiles video, hab da mal eine andere Frage, welche Thermalpaste würdest du für eine 3090 Ti empfehlen, zumindest eine die lange halten soll, ist krynot extreme gut geeignet?
mfg
You have done an amazing job sir. Especially that cleaning and soldering amazing. That shows how expert and how much experienced you are in this field.
What a nightmare repair! You're like a brain surgeon, but with GPUs, impressive work!
Where most semi professionals give up, he get little warm and his work begins. There are not many people out there bringing dead cards back to life. My full respect. When i got broken card i will rather send the card to him - no matter if warranty or not - then to the manufacturer. Maybe they all also send their cards to him 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Guess this will be my new relaxing channel from now on. Awesome work!
Most professional GPU repair channel I've ever seen, I hope you grow fast.
Amazing work as always. You are a really pro technician. Thank you for sharing all these knowledge ;)
Absolut cleane, präzise und professionelle Arbeit(-sweise) @KrisFix-Germany. Macht einfach Spaß, Deine Videos anzuschauen und mit zu fiebern wie es ausgeht.
It's nice to watch the work of the master!
Insane amount of work! Thanks.
another great effort, well done. awesome that youre sellling the air coolers of the unrepairable on your site!
The PCB’s we give them for recycling, but the coolers we have to throw away. We thought it would be better to offer them to our customers at a reasonable price and have them reused and useful to someone.
It is pleasure listen your calm voice with interesting accent while watching skilled work. Thumbs up man.
Surgical repair.
I can't believe your channel is still at 5K subs.
It will grow for sure.
This is a most impressive video, thanks for sharing.
Even though I have seen other videos detailing the sort of damage it is possible to cause when using liquid metal I am still amazed at how devastating it can be if not contained to where it was intended to b applied.
This video just confirms what I had already realised..........do not use liquid metal.
Probably due to the GPU being an RTX 3090, altho not as expensive as they once were, I was pleased that it was economically possible to repair that card, with the amount of work needed to bring it back to a functioning condition. Perhaps more surprised as the repair difficulty was rated at 10 out of 10 and the issues labelled as a "disaster".
Subbed, for both entertainment and, in situations similar to that of the above, a reminder of what to not do..!
Broooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! Unbelievable !!!!!!!
Can’t believe you fixed that ! Amazing job
Habe heute erst deinen Kanal entdeckt und muss sagen 👍👍👍
Brilliant work , thanks for posting
This is a kind of art. Even if I was thinking this must be possible somehow, even if I would never expect it to be done by a regular guy, it is shocking how easy it looks like when you do this. And I know it isn´t, I never would try to do this.
Great Repair!
WOW, after i saw the damage done by this liquid metal, i never mind it will work ever again. Good work
Quality work, quality video.
Man, why even use LM at that point? the risk of completely screwing your card to this extent, for 2-4c difference for a normal user is just an idiotic amount of risk.
I'm glad i found your channel, you do amazing work, and ii think i've learned more from you than any other source regarding rework, soldering and just general professional knowledge!. Thank you! Underrated channel.
So satisfying when hard work turns out right the first time :)
it'd be cool to see a video explanation of all the parts of a gpu if you ever have the time. ty for the video!
Ugh this makes me cry. I don't have the steady hands for liquid metal and I'm glad I've never tried to use it. Great job on the fix!
A trick I use is to NEVER squirt liquid metal directly on the die. Push a little bit of liquid metal out of the syringe then pick up the metal with a brush. Then use that brush to apply metal on the die. The needle attachment that comes with the syringe is way too misleading and should be removed.
Godly patience. Incredible
Wow.. Like just wow... Skills Dude!
Perfect repair like always 👍
Danke
Very nice video. Thank you.
Great video. I've never been sold on the idea of adding electrically conductive, corrosive liquids to my expensive electronics.
Man, that's amazing. Simply amazing.
thank you
You did an absolutely wonderful clean-up and repair job on this horror story.
This guy got SO lucky that only SMDs (surface-mount devices) were damaged during his shitshow application of Liquid Metal and that he didn't damage any traces. You can solder an SMD but you can't repair a trace.
Dr Kris! What a legend
insane repair, well done
omg, i cant believe you made it work. amazing skills!
Holy shit impressive repair man!
absolute perfection
Appreciate what you do sir
Excellent work! Wow what a disaster!
Hey Kris! What multi-meter are you using with the pc logging feature? If you don’t mind me asking. Keep up the great vids. I have now successfully repaired many cards and I wanted to say thank you for all the great videos. You have helped me learn a lot about GPU repair’s.
I use Siglent, almost every bench multimeter has this functionality
Master of the. Universe. Hats Off.
Every time I watch your videos i am so impressed. Your work is the definition of professionalism.
Thank you
Wow what a marathon! I've never trusted that liquid metal crud - a long job like this isnt going to be cheap - well done!
: It's not so bad actually but it helps not be an ogre when you apply liquid metal :)
Reballing tooks a hell of time.
I just reballed and resoldered an emmc with hand without stencil.
I hate myself that i did not bought a stencil😅
Well Done
Very nice work!
And the conclusion is: even if you try to cool your gfx with water or sth else do not use LM! Take a thermal compound , wich is maybe 5 degrees lower performing computer tu LM, but Not containing that risk.
God level work
incredible.
Lucky European people, they have krisfix in their area , and I am also lucky because I learned a lot from you 🥰
Very Good 😍
Love you work brother. Love from INDIA 💖
Bro how you fixed this card is amazing 😂 well done my friend!!! You are a Proooo
Your work is awesome
Awesome ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
Amazing
Einfach nur wow👍👍👌
damn fine job mein freund. Sehr gut!
Wow. That took a lot of effort and specialized tools but was well worth it! Great Job! Another GPU saved from Trash. I don't get why people would risk their exremely pricey GPUs just for a few degrees Celsius less. I kind of get why Sony had to use Liquid Metal in the PS5 - these few degrees were more than likely the difference between the Console running stable or shutting down every few minutes to save the Hardware from Heatstroke. But the more I see of this stuff the less likey I am to use it if I can help it - It's all good if it stays where it's supposed to - but woe to you if it spills and spreads around the PCB...Yikes!
Amazing work!! I think liquid Metal is uselless and the risk of damage the card is too high for a few degree gain.
Recent thermal paste performing well .
Wow... good job. Just found out about your channel. Impressive work. In regards to this repair, as a lot had to be done, is repair worth it? Or how much did this cost approx.?
Do the repair or buy another card. Cost is obvious.
Beautiful! That liquid metal is nasty!
19:20 that smile made me smile
As someone who game a lot, i never touched hardware modification. And i only overclock once. The risk of destroying expensive part is definitely a big concern.
Is that the Strix variant Kris? I'm still waiting for some tools so I can finish repairing the cracked area of the PCB /shrug. The measurements on this card (if it is a strix) is what I'm interested in as they seem a little different from other 3090's just so I can be sure it's safe to power up when I get to that stage. Then I'm expecting to have to do some reflowing/re-balling after tests maybe. All your videos are inspiring and enlightening and help me a lot. thankyou. PEACE\/
It is strix
Good job! What sponge do you use?
Wow what a wizard
No doubt it helps with cooling. But the risks of it harming your electronics can be bad. Good old thermal paste does more then enough.
Looks like the Dunning-Kruger effect is going to keep you busy for a long time.
After all your hard work, the cards puts out results better than new cards, you say? That is amazing. Congrats!
This is true, I've had brand new cards that have never been used and already with errors on some chips
Great repair Kris. You zre the master in gpu repair. Question can you show in video what repair tools you use.
Thank you for the great content. I do not understand why people has to need to use liquid metal and damage there laptop or gpu with It.
Thank you
Not sure if you're going to read this. What I was really curious about is what does 3840, 3136/7 mean @19:45 I was a bit curious as to how you mentioned that working cards don't have that result? What could we expect from a working card and why would these numbers changed as the GPU gets used more and more? Cheers and great work!
If I remember right, that is a vram test. Not too unsure about the numbers and what they correlate to.
hello sir, amazing work! I have two questions: 1-) Do you melt the solder balls on the gpu and ram chips after reballing? Until now I haven't seen a single video of you doing that, I also see you place the chips on the board manually right after reballing and moving them around, suggesting that you melted and fused the solder balls to the pads of the chips off camera. 2-) Would putting the card in ultrasonic cleaner upside down with some surfactant/detergent in the bath work for cleaning liquid metal? have you tried it? I reckon the ultrasonic cleaner would break off the liquid metal mess from the surfaces it stuck onto, and with the help of gravity I think the small metal droplets would fall to the bottom of the tank, without contaminating other areas of the PCB.
It is really nice to see how good you do your job !
i will send my RTX 3080 to you :D i have big hopes :D
Funny story that happened to a friend, he waxed on and on about liquid metal then came round to me to tell me his puter was thermal triggering every time he turned it on and he asked me to have a look... he couldn't get the cooler off for a reason, it had its alloy base converted into a liquid metal mush that had fused itself to the socket surrounds, the cooler was like cheese and just crumbled with some persuasion... so I asks him did he read the instructions and he was like "nah, thought it was like thermal paste and slapped it on" which cost him a motherboard and a cpu for just "slapping it on" and that stuff seems to get everywhere and I kept finding weeks later little blobs of the stuff appear on my workbench. Filthy stuff, don't use it, the couple degrees extra just ain't worth bricking your machine.
excellent job.
How long is entire process?
I don't get why people mess with liquid metal after so many horror stories. Surely there are some people that know what they're doing but I see it on reddit and other places even people trying to change out pads not mounting their cooler correctly and damaging things. Leave it a lone lol. Strix cards in particular are some of the most well made. Why mess with it. Crazy repair though, that requires a lot of knowledge and expertise
Could you freeze the whole card and then those LM spills would be solid metal flakes and could use a brush to get them off?
Very cool video and very impressive that you could still repair it. But what did the customer do with this card? Soaked it in liquid metal or what?
The liquid metal comes in a tube with more than is needed. People do not read instructions and apply all of the tube.
How anybody would think liquid metal was a good idea I will never understand. The meager gains over thermal paste simply do not justify the risk associated with using liquid metal.
I don't know exactly why, but this video was extremely satisfying to watch the order be restored to the chaos that was on that GPU. Cheers.
What is the tool you use to test gpu
Great work you do. Are you aware Gallium creates an alloy with Aluminium if it comes in contact? It ruins de structural integrity of the Aluminium. It will travel through the whole part it touches.
So much work but it paid off.
top arbeit! leider hab ich den falschen job gewählt. macht spaß schon beim zusehen 😀
die Kurzschlüsse zwischen den Kondensatoren und den bgas, sieht aus wie ein Autounfall. Gute Arbeit die wieder zum laufen zu bekommen.
I've actually had this come in before as well in a bit of a worse situation alas. Essentually juse used warm liquid to wash it off.
Great job, well done! Another saved graphics card. I'm not from your country and I'm curious how much does this service cost in your country?
I'm not sure what to say, this is nothing short than magic.
If I break my bones i don't go to the hospital, I call you XD
wow I have a 3060rtx evga with ram issues if only there were more ppl like you.
Came for the Der Bauer repair, staying for the quality of this channel
what did use to apply the liquid metal? A hose pipe?
Ist echt gut geworden. Mich würde die gesamt Zeit interessieren, die hier drin steckt, bis die Karte wieder lief.
Is the 2-4C thermal improvement really worth applying liquid metal? Seems like way more risk than reward.
It only becomes worth it when you add a foam barrier and add nail polish. But I agree, very time consuming for little improvement. I recommend people to change memory pads with a copper shim + thermal putty as that is where you can get a drastic 20c reduction
I do not recommend
Depends. On GPU's mostly not since, it's not really a improvement, mostly it's the same temperature as before. On CPU's it also depends. If your CPU isn't soldered, you will gain a lot if you delid it and use liquid metal. On top i also use liquid metal between the CPU and CPU Cooler. It's not only a few degrees cooler like this, but it will also stay like this for many years and you don't have to reapply it like with thermal paste every 6-12 months to keep your temperatures. I got a i6700k CPU, which has a lot of temperature spikes, even on idle. For example i move my mouse and the cpu will go from 36° instantly to 44° and then straight back. With liquid metal this will still happen, but not as fast and not that heavy. Now it will go from 32° to 34° and then straight back to 32° which means, my cooler won't ramp up, even if it's just for a second.
The difference in temperature on a GPU is 8C average with up to 13C improvement under stresstest/load.
I applied liquid metal to my i73370k after a delid = -25°C with OC 4.4ghz and never exceeded 86°C with a Noctua NHD15 with grueling CPU tests. In advanced games it's more like 65°C max. I gained about 25°C (but the delid probably plays a lot)
I also applied liquid metal on my 1080ti OC and went from 89°C to 77°C under full load.
I also put liquid metal on my AERO 15x laptop and I gained around 15°C on the CPU and GPU part. As a bonus, the heat is localized on a small part on the chassis and not anymore on the entire surface.
It's up to everyone to see if the gains are worth the risk. But when you like to push the limits of your equipment, it's very valuable as a gain. For me it's big risk / big gain ^^
WOW KRIS!!!!! Unbelivable! Greetings from Germany!!!!! Where is your company???
smart people are so cool
liduid metal its peligrso porque lo usan si no saven usdarlo take it to a pro like you saludos luv your vidios mi amigo