Cutting an NVIDIA RTX 4090 in Half with a Water Jet: The Science of Cooling

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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  Рік тому +241

    Der8auer explains thermal paste pump out: ua-cam.com/video/CCqxE-5Ct3w/v-deo.html
    Watch TiN (formerly EVGA) demonstrate how GPUs die from over temperature: ua-cam.com/video/biEoBo8S0Zo/v-deo.html

    • @neb_setabed
      @neb_setabed Рік тому +5

      Clickbait

    • @edwardalphonse4091
      @edwardalphonse4091 Рік тому +3

      @La maison Rock du Procrastinateur h

    • @edwardalphonse4091
      @edwardalphonse4091 Рік тому +2

      @@neb_setabed a

    • @dirkmanderin
      @dirkmanderin Рік тому +6

      The headline is a bit clickbaity, since you're not cutting the actual card in half...

    • @jitk1
      @jitk1 Рік тому

      The formerly is what I feared when EVGA dissolved their GPU segment... These engineers should have no problems finding new work, it's just a shame that they are put in this position.

  • @austinshaner
    @austinshaner Рік тому +1659

    As an engineer, I felt right at home in this video. Big companies don't typically send their engineers out for PR purposes. Because let's be honest, most engineers will bore you with the details. But from a company that keeps things pretty close to the chest, this was extremely refreshing. You can tell he's had a lot of hands on experience developing these coolers. He did a great job. Please have him back!

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify Рік тому +49

      Man I wish we could get a multi hour presentation on his experience doing CFD for a company with 'infinite computing resources' as he put.

    • @theheadone
      @theheadone Рік тому +15

      Definitely spot on. I felt like I was at work talking with some of the PhD's.

    • @marcm.
      @marcm. Рік тому +17

      Personally I would have loved to have heard more on each one of these areas that he touched on. This video could easily have been two times the length and I would have still been entranced

    • @adjoho1
      @adjoho1 Рік тому +5

      While I really enjoyed this segment, it's not relevant to me. I custom loop my systems, so the cooler on a GPU is relevant only for the period I power the card on to make sure it powers up. My STRIX 3080 cooler lasted about 5 minutes before I removed it and installed a water block. I wish vendors would offer a bare card for users like me.

    • @MeGaDwarf2008
      @MeGaDwarf2008 Рік тому +2

      @@adjoho1 Some vendors do sell a pre-installed waterblock versions, I think MSI and Gigabyte had one last generation.
      I'm running the MSI's 2080 waterblock card for example. Which was a major PITA to service, but that's a bit of a side topic.

  • @Real28
    @Real28 Рік тому +3268

    NVIDIA executives may be questionable at best but NVIDIA engineers are among the best in the entire business.

    • @supra107
      @supra107 Рік тому +403

      True, all of Nvidia's issues come from the suits.

    • @Taima_the_lion
      @Taima_the_lion Рік тому +242

      Probably like that for a lot of the major tech companies since they are the ones actually designing the product and take pride in it

    • @lilblackduc7312
      @lilblackduc7312 Рік тому +69

      If *Anyone* from Nvidia, or other company explains things truthfully, keep them as a friend. They're uniquely valuable!

    • @789know
      @789know Рік тому +47

      Ironic that Jensen wong is also a engineer. People usually associated Nvidia decision with him as he is the CEO

    • @SidorovichJr
      @SidorovichJr Рік тому +1

      You assume this by simply products leading performance or something else matters? :)

  • @Scooged
    @Scooged Рік тому +550

    I love how happy he is to talk about this stuff. That's real passion. That dude doesn't work for a living, he's just having fun for a living.

    • @bshulke
      @bshulke Рік тому +22

      If you enjoy what you do, you'll never work a day in your life.

    • @PDXCustomPCS
      @PDXCustomPCS Рік тому +3

      Some of us do it on the side and imagine were like him. Awesome roll model. 👌

    • @szaszm_
      @szaszm_ Рік тому +21

      @@bshulke Great saying, but there's a darker flipside to this: If you start doing your hobby professionally, you may get bored with it, or they (colleagues) may make you hate it. It depends on the work environment and your ability to handle or fix it.

    • @svengustaffson385
      @svengustaffson385 Рік тому

      Wouldn't say that

    • @tobiwonkanogy2975
      @tobiwonkanogy2975 Рік тому +1

      It definitely something you could pick up on .

  • @Aeqstaw
    @Aeqstaw Рік тому +613

    Not sure how you got an NVIDIA engineer out there, but this was an excellent guest and piece of content.

    • @sjohie
      @sjohie Рік тому +68

      There was a PR person just outside the camera view, and that guy didn't come along to just handle Malcom's luggage. This is part of a elaborate PR campaign, with probably a pre-approved script etc. But GN won't bend to their will to much, so they, Nvidia I mean, did take somewhat of a risk here. Technicians aren't always good communicators, just like a good cook, might not be all that good at running an complete restaurant. I feel they made the right choice going with Steve and GN, they nail this technical stuff pretty good.

    • @johnd.1618
      @johnd.1618 Рік тому +2

      Being nice to Nvidia is one reason.

    • @vuri3798
      @vuri3798 Рік тому +21

      Easy, Nvidia saw that people currently hate them for a reason, so they copied Intel's PR homework hoping it will all go away.

    • @randomassortmentofthings
      @randomassortmentofthings Рік тому +43

      An engineer will gladly talk to you about his work all day long: it's his company that won't let him lmao

    • @MrRene5551
      @MrRene5551 Рік тому +6

      Sponsored by Nvidia, of course GN dropped the pants for them.

  • @jokerproduction
    @jokerproduction Рік тому +1252

    NVIDIA: unboxing embargo
    Steve: Teardown?
    NVIDIA: Cut it in half with a water jet?
    Steve: Yes.

    • @Blackwing2345635
      @Blackwing2345635 Рік тому +49

      NVIDIA: Damn it, this madman wouldn't stop anyway! FINE, we'll do it ourselves!

    • @jooplin
      @jooplin Рік тому +16

      Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra

    • @neondemon5137
      @neondemon5137 Рік тому +9

      @@jooplin Shaka, when the walls fell.

    • @NEDMKitten
      @NEDMKitten Рік тому +3

      @@jooplin when the water jets fell

    • @mikeoleksa
      @mikeoleksa Рік тому

      @@Blackwing2345635 🤣🤣🤣

  • @DaniIhzaFarrosi
    @DaniIhzaFarrosi Рік тому +3727

    In spite of all hate towards NVIDIA, this video reminds us that there are passionate and real genuine people in it. It’s unfortunate that all the bad decisions the company made overshadow the talent behind it.

    • @michaelblue4619
      @michaelblue4619 Рік тому +74

      I mean the 4090 made by passionate and genuine people was always a good gpu.

    • @rvs55
      @rvs55 Рік тому +68

      And even then, how bad or good those decisions are, is also relative.
      Those decisions are only bad for the average consumer. It doesn't really affect the more affluent or rich consumers. And it benefits the company and shareholders.
      So it all depends on where you stand. Heh.

    • @simonwei92
      @simonwei92 Рік тому +120

      Agreed. Always remember guys, hate a company if you will, but never extend that hate to the normal people working in that company.

    • @Dudi4PoLFr
      @Dudi4PoLFr Рік тому +59

      And this is my problem with huge corporations like Nvidia. We only hear and see what the suits in upper management are doing/saying while in the back, there are hundreds if not thousands of passionate engineers doing all the hard work and pushing the limits of technology that we will never know about.

    • @TRAMP-oline
      @TRAMP-oline Рік тому +46

      @@rvs55 You don't become affluent or rich by wasting money. That's a very bad way of putting it. Affluent and rich people weigh the cons and pros and accept or deny it based on their means like anyone else.

  • @stronkde
    @stronkde Рік тому +18

    As an engineer that can relate to product design decisions, hats off to Malcolm for his demonstration and explanations. It's super hard to convey what you did (and why) in a way that people can understand.. Malcolm did a bang up job doing just that!

  • @twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876
    @twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Рік тому +295

    This is a perfect example that if you can get someone that loves and is excited about their profession the enthusiasm almost becomes contagious. The excitement from the engineers is almost palatable and the crew did a great job of framing it to make it more digestible for the general public as well. Absolutely brilliant video wish it was longer.

    • @zachoneal572
      @zachoneal572 Рік тому +7

      I think you meant palpable, though it is quite amusing that you then use digestible in the same sentence.

    • @twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876
      @twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Рік тому +1

      @@zachoneal572 voice program in my car sometimes is not the best. Was dictating the response in my car after listening to the video on my commute to work.

    • @zachoneal572
      @zachoneal572 Рік тому +3

      @@twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Yeah definitely don't comment on UA-cam videos while driving lmao.

    • @twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876
      @twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Рік тому

      @@zachoneal572 what are you kidding me it beats the heck out of sitting in traffic doing nothing. Or just listening to a book

    • @zachoneal572
      @zachoneal572 Рік тому +2

      @@twoplustwoequalsfivethatgu4876 Paying attention the road and not dying/killing others is far superior.

  • @creed5248
    @creed5248 Рік тому +593

    Despite him being so technical - he was still able to explain it in fairly simple terms that I could understand . The really made out well by hiring him at Nvidia .

    • @tiestofalljays
      @tiestofalljays Рік тому +47

      Yep, the ability to break down complex ideas/things into simple terms is a hallmark of “someone who knows what they’re talking about”.

    • @xerzy
      @xerzy Рік тому +9

      @@tiestofalljays Basically, it all comes down to understanding what the *end goal* of it all is, from there you can ignore irrelevant technical details and pretty much break anything down into basic mechanics and/or logic which anyone can keep up with.

    • @sortofsmarter
      @sortofsmarter Рік тому +13

      Can you imagine him 20 years from now as a "grey beard", the wisdom he can dispell....

    • @Plusimurfriend
      @Plusimurfriend Рік тому +1

      He is white, so he wont last long at Nvidia despite his capabilities.

    • @Matt561
      @Matt561 Рік тому +4

      I was with the PR guy, most of it right over my head lol

  • @Cinetyk
    @Cinetyk Рік тому +57

    The pricing is still absurd, and me as a costumer can't ignore that. But yeah, it's easy to forget the insane levels of quality engineering work being done by some of the best people in their field and it's cool to watch this kind of stuff. Takes me back to my uni days and physics classes.

    • @RyoHazuki224
      @RyoHazuki224 Рік тому

      Yeah, the pricing is absurd. I can't even imagine a professional gamer justifying that price for even a small handful of FPS bump. The difference isn't THAT big, the damn cost is way too high. We're getting to a point of diminishing returns here.
      So yes, if you purchase a 4090 brand new to just play games with (as in, you're not a tech reviewer for your job), then you're a damn idiot and you need to get your head examined.

    • @4gbmeans4gb61
      @4gbmeans4gb61 Рік тому +4

      When has the titan or 90 version ever been cheap? And when have you ever had one? Never?

  • @r2d2arm
    @r2d2arm Рік тому +14

    As a structural engineer in aerospace, appreciated the bit about adding extra columns for stability in the vapor chamber. Great video and very informative. The PR guy shouldn't have to worry, fundamental equations and laws! Probably had that Winona Ryder gif on loop in his head 😂

  • @chrys9256
    @chrys9256 Рік тому +1320

    This video is emblematic of the wide gulf between Nvidia's engineering team and the company's executives. It can't be easy for the engineers to witness so much negativity and lack of enthusiasm surrounding the products they worked so hard to create due to the decisions made by the executives.

    • @davidb8539
      @davidb8539 Рік тому +141

      From experience - this can be applied to most companies.
      Salesmen promise the moon
      Engineering designs the moon
      The execs decide the customers need a lumpy boulder the price of the moon

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Рік тому +70

      @@hyphydan cope

    • @ATR-42
      @ATR-42 Рік тому +14

      @@davidb8539 totally agree ^^ . hello Boeing lol

    • @ShaneMcGrath.
      @ShaneMcGrath. Рік тому +37

      @@hyphydan Not at those prices, Nvidia needs to cope that gpu mining is DED!
      Drop the prices a lot more and many gamers would help clear out those warehouses.

    • @hyphydan
      @hyphydan Рік тому +3

      @@ShaneMcGrath. I'm going to sell my 3080 and 3060ti I got for MSRP and mined for a year, and will purchase a 4080 16gb. Problem solved

  • @chrisd7829
    @chrisd7829 Рік тому +361

    I don't know what kinds of shenanigans you guys had to pull to get this to happen. But this is an absolutely amazing video. Good job

    • @Matt561
      @Matt561 Рік тому +76

      Being an unbiased technical news source for the past 12 years or so

    • @jm8080ful
      @jm8080ful Рік тому +33

      nvidia being desperate for some kind of pr with the gpu prices going down

    • @visitante-pc5zc
      @visitante-pc5zc Рік тому +4

      Ngreedia, you mean

    • @countvonthizzle9623
      @countvonthizzle9623 Рік тому +2

      Steve had to tie back his hair. And maybe kneel.

    • @camotech1314
      @camotech1314 Рік тому

      @@jm8080ful doesn't mean they will reduce their prices, have you seen how much the 4090 costs?🤣🤣🤣

  • @lxndrlbr
    @lxndrlbr Рік тому +38

    This content is a huge plus and differentiator of your channel. I am very interested in seeing all engineering topics in the future. They could be scheduled between announcements seasons. I hope you get all the energy and resources to produce more content like you do!

  • @apohorecki
    @apohorecki Рік тому +129

    I really appreciate GN doing these unique types of videos. I have to admit that some of it went over my head, but I enjoyed listening to the engineer. He seems really proud and enthusiastic about his work.

    • @Watchfulfox
      @Watchfulfox Рік тому +3

      Watch it again, you'll see it's all basically common physics principles in action. The stuff you learn in school put to use in the real world instead of just being formulas on paper.

    • @Ken-no5ip
      @Ken-no5ip Рік тому +1

      @@Watchfulfox you calculate the enthalpy flow of steam when you cook spaghetti?

  • @Grendizer81
    @Grendizer81 Рік тому +57

    Being a pro in their own domain is one thing, being able to talk about it in simple terms to the unknowledgable is another. That ability shows his competence. Very impressive.

  • @JohnnyWednesday
    @JohnnyWednesday Рік тому +91

    This is the kind of engagement I want to see from tech companies - most of their customers might not be tech savvy but every single one of them has a friend that is whom is consulted at every purchase.

    • @jeroen9424
      @jeroen9424 Рік тому +1

      And GN is our "friend", they're one of the only people I trust when it comes to reviewing hardware. I do not have friends that are really into pc hardware :(

    • @JGMeador444
      @JGMeador444 Рік тому +1

      @@jeroen9424 Yeah, I trust GN, der8auer, and Hardware Unboxed. That's it.

    • @ChowdongsFameCrew
      @ChowdongsFameCrew Рік тому

      oh yes haha :D

  • @BrilliantDesignOnline
    @BrilliantDesignOnline Рік тому +33

    As an (non-thermal) engineer, this is fascinating stuff, and amazing the thought and testing they put into these designs.

  • @TillRiedell
    @TillRiedell Рік тому +61

    What an amazing video. I'm a senior studying chemical engineering, and there was a ton of cross over. Really interesting! Props to Nvidia for working with you guys to make the video. This is the content that makes GN such a special UA-cam channel.

  • @bballer4life24
    @bballer4life24 Рік тому +252

    Malcom was awesome. Having people like him acting as the face for Nvidia paints them in a much better light. Also, it was cool to see how much goes into these designs and to hear one of the engineers say that they were proud of their design. Makes you realize its it much more than slapping fans on some heatsinks and making it bigger if its still too hot.

    • @Lodinn
      @Lodinn Рік тому +4

      It's also pretty interesting, Malcolm's presenting skills are pretty good but you still can tell there's a big gap in experience between him and Steve and Steve has to play a host role constantly guiding him so it doesn't get too jargon-y for the viewers.

  • @ambush1242
    @ambush1242 Рік тому +378

    You guys are the gold standard for computer hardware investigation. Incredible work here guys.

    • @redstar612
      @redstar612 Рік тому +12

      Nexus is on another level with PC content same with der8auer's channel!

    • @Phytrox
      @Phytrox Рік тому +4

      Exactly my thoughts, GN & Der8auer are on next level

    • @HaiHane
      @HaiHane Рік тому +3

      Gold standard? Was expecting actual 4090 getting cut in half
      What I got: 4090 cooler cut in half
      Sad cat thumb. Quality clickbait. Gold standard

    • @dylanherron3963
      @dylanherron3963 Рік тому +4

      @@HaiHane It's almost as if they have a business and need to draw traffic and support staff.

    • @HaiHane
      @HaiHane Рік тому +4

      @@dylanherron3963 I think you caught on with the sarcasm. My point being they don't need to pull a Linus clickbait move if they are serious in distinguishing with actual proper quality. Their content is good, they don't need to pull this shady title move.

  • @jtland4842
    @jtland4842 Рік тому +51

    Thanks to all you guys at GN as well as Malcolm especially, I may have just realized my passion for Thermal Engineering. It is hard to describe how potentially special this video and moment is to me. I have followed you guys at GN for many years always interested in especially cooler testing which may have been slowly preparing me for this video here. Thank you guys so much for making these kinds of videos because they really help to inspire many others like me as well as provide so much education and consumer advice.

    • @peejay1981
      @peejay1981 Рік тому +1

      I hope you like calculus! Will be an interesting career.

    • @usefulidiot21
      @usefulidiot21 Рік тому

      I'm a mechanical engineer and thermodynamics might've been the hardest classes I had in college, so you'll be fine as long as you like the challenge.

  • @GoldenHeartNecklace
    @GoldenHeartNecklace Рік тому +4

    I'd love it if that guy made his own engineering channel, he is so genuine in how much he loves his work he's inspiring.

  • @Real_MisterSir
    @Real_MisterSir Рік тому +327

    I find it quite funny how a lot of people have to physically see engineers, designers, etc to remember that there is more to companies than just their board members and marketing team.
    It's great to see how GN's influence in the tech world is so well respected. Thanks Steve!

    • @BrooklynBalla
      @BrooklynBalla Рік тому +17

      Not sure what you mean.When people hate nvidia they’re talking about the top brass that make decisions.

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 Рік тому +2

      @@BrooklynBalla but sadly they blame the regular workers as well without second thought. You need to remember not everyone has common sense when it comes to behind the screen stuff...

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir Рік тому +4

      @@BrooklynBalla Clearly you haven't read many comments in the past years. Not just the top guys. Also I'm referring to a lot of the comments on this vid that clearly show how many people "just realize there are good people at Nvidia".

    • @cloudnine5651
      @cloudnine5651 Рік тому +3

      its how the human brain works......you have to be exposed to something to even know it exists....are people just supposed to know without ever being exposed to the knowledge?

    • @ab185
      @ab185 Рік тому +2

      It should also remind the armchair engineers on UA-cam, reddit, etc. to keep their thoughts/opinions to themselves. There are enormous teams of incredibly talented engineers working on these things that have forgotten more than most people know.

  • @SasquatchComposites
    @SasquatchComposites Рік тому +187

    This was quite possibly my favorite GN video of all time. Really tickled my aerospace engineer brain to learn how they're applying heat transfer and fluid dynamics to ultimately give us more fps for our entertainment. It'd be super fun to be part of that team. The engineering here is just as sophisticated as what I do on aircraft.

    • @DummyUrD
      @DummyUrD Рік тому +5

      sounded more like fps while having a tolerable level of sound :p

    • @joseverdejo9010
      @joseverdejo9010 Рік тому +1

      I thought of propeller pitch and blade counts lol

  • @whaaaat_scoobs
    @whaaaat_scoobs Рік тому +11

    Thank you NVIDIA and GN for doing this video. I gotta be honest, like many other commenters I have come to think of NVIDIA as a faceless, evil corpo like those straight out of CP2077. Malcolm rocks, the PR guy letting him roll with it rocks, and whoever allowed him to bring all the samples and explain his work designing and testing the new founders cooler deserves a pat on the back. Please do more like this steve!

  • @joyQuery
    @joyQuery Рік тому +1

    Wow -- this video blew me away! Usually I get bored and sleepy really quick with in depth engineering videos but Malcolm was super interesting the whole time! Dude that is a guy who loves what he does and does a fantastic job at it -- so many hats off to Malcolm and Steve at an awesome job of dumbing things down (in a good way) for the rest of us!
    Side note I want my wife to look at me the way Steve looked at Malcolm nerding out with his explanations -- you can see the genuine interest and giddiness Steve had on this subject and analysis -- everything about this video was phenomenal!

  • @dhofari9009
    @dhofari9009 Рік тому +106

    It seems that Nvidia has high confidence on the performance of the 4000 series to allow for such video especially with GN.
    As an Engineer I found the amount of technical information on this video is crazy. Well done

  • @mpauls85
    @mpauls85 Рік тому +253

    That was AMAZING!
    Also, kudos to NVIDIA for allowing this.
    The PR-guys off camera where probably sweating the whole time. 😅

    • @kingplunger6033
      @kingplunger6033 Рік тому +2

      maybe, but in the end nvidia does shitty things every year and people forget fast, so its not that bad.

    • @endless2239
      @endless2239 Рік тому +16

      the Nvidia PR-guys saw the responses to Tom Peterson on Linus video and immediately grabbed this dude, some waterjet and send him to GN XD. Genius.

    • @johan1471
      @johan1471 Рік тому +3

      @@endless2239 can you send the link of the video you're talking about

    • @ZachAttack2U
      @ZachAttack2U Рік тому

      @@johan1471 I believe this is the video Endless was talking about:
      ua-cam.com/video/45n5pnEyw9o/v-deo.html

    • @Fate025
      @Fate025 Рік тому +2

      the PR guy must be constantly thinking, wait did he just reveal everything thats under NDA????

  • @JDelta87
    @JDelta87 Рік тому

    It's always good when an engineer is going over what went into making the actual product. He is naturally excited to explain the entire process and PR didn't seem to interfere at all. Great content and information everyone!

  • @elbastron
    @elbastron Рік тому

    I love it when companies don't send some PR guy who can only talk marketing bogus but an actual engineer who know his stuff and is also very good at presenting it. Actually learned quite a lot when I only expected to see a cut in half GPU. Amazing!

  • @kornydad14
    @kornydad14 Рік тому +375

    As an Aerospace Engineer myself, this discussion was awesome. To have the computing power that Nvidia has at there fingertips to run CFD must be amazing. Most companies have to rent computing power at an incredible cost to run the types of simulations he is talking about. A company I worked for ran a similar study for a fan design we were working on for automotive and it was thousands of dollars just to rent the compute for the few days needed to run the study. This was after we tired running the simulation on our own custom CFD machine with 64 cores and the 4 A6000 an over $60,000 dollar machine at the time. Nvidia probably has 10 times the computing power just lying around.

    • @SplitTheBeat
      @SplitTheBeat Рік тому +43

      Nvidia has whole server farms filled with quadro rtx cards at their disposal. It is as the guy said, they have access to near infinite compute power

    • @jay-5061
      @jay-5061 Рік тому +8

      theyre likely not lying around tho. probably renting it out like u said.

    • @SplitTheBeat
      @SplitTheBeat Рік тому +18

      @@jay-5061 They can't have that amount of compute power "laying around". It's stored in hundreds of server racks in special rooms, in buildings the size of a walmart. They connect to that horsepower via multigigabit glass fibre just as any paying client would, but possibly with more features because it's their own shit after all. This is basically engineer heaven lmao

    • @kornydad14
      @kornydad14 Рік тому +8

      Too be clear, I know it's not just "lying around" but simply meant they probably have access to almost all the compute power not currently in use by customers or other dev teams.

    • @jrsmithunited
      @jrsmithunited Рік тому +9

      I've worked with Nvidia and Dell for drug discovery. You need to add some 00s on the end of how much GPUs they have 'lying around'. They are a sizeable provider in the compute-time space. But small fry compared to those who specialize in it obviously.

  • @___DRIP___
    @___DRIP___ Рік тому +321

    Malcolm seems very young, but he’s incredibly knowledgeable and educated. What a great video so far GN team.

    • @Agm1995gamer
      @Agm1995gamer Рік тому +12

      I've met people who look and sound like him at 35.
      Besides that, you younger you are when you learn the better you understand.

    • @Maxi86inAction
      @Maxi86inAction Рік тому +8

      Seems like he really loves his job as well 😄

    • @wongwong1517
      @wongwong1517 Рік тому +10

      Looks like he's in his late 20s. Steve could too, with a shave.

    • @Agm1995gamer
      @Agm1995gamer Рік тому +16

      @@Maxi86inAction
      Imagine being a thermal engineer for nvidia at 19 years old.

    • @fVNzO
      @fVNzO Рік тому +13

      @@Agm1995gamer Not true. Neuroplasticity does not stop at 25. And guided learning is always more effective than opportunistic.

  • @reconciliation86
    @reconciliation86 Рік тому +3

    Props to the guy from nvidia and whoever greenlit this project there. I've been glued to the screen for 30 minutes learning about cooling graphics cards while _feeling_ that nvidia is innovating. Great content! I hope there's more of this sort to come in future years.

  • @TommyT1550
    @TommyT1550 Рік тому

    This guy really understands his stuff, very very intelligent young man. He understands the technology in such a high capacity, yet is able to convey his message in a way that your everyday person can understand what he is saying. Bravo on this video, awesome content. He needs to be a repeat guest, especially after the full launch.

  • @AllSeeingEy3
    @AllSeeingEy3 Рік тому +20

    Hey yall, microscope tip from another validation guy: Sandbag the table your scope is on and put neoprene sheeting underneath it. That will keep your heartbeat from showing up in the video. For irregular samples, keep some play dough or modeling clay handy! Moosh it into the clay, and it won't wobble while you're moving the stage.
    Love your work!

  • @chrits3396
    @chrits3396 Рік тому +36

    This is probably the advert Nvidia can receive. Seeing a young and talented engineer explain his contribution to just the cooler alone makes me interested in the product and also interested in other aspects of it.

  • @MarioCRO
    @MarioCRO Рік тому +8

    GN bringing high value for the community. Great video and very interesting 30 mins spent watching it. Thank you GN!

  • @jay_volpe
    @jay_volpe Рік тому +5

    You gotta love the engineers involved in making these things.

  • @vash_dakari
    @vash_dakari Рік тому +25

    You can tell how proud Malcom is of this card. That's his baby that he's been working on for a while now, and to see it all together and coming out has got to be a great feeling.

  • @isaacw7479
    @isaacw7479 Рік тому +984

    What REALLY needs to be cut in half is the price

  • @whirledpeaz5758
    @whirledpeaz5758 Рік тому +12

    The crossover between this and the aerospace industry must be fascinating.

    • @TennisGvy
      @TennisGvy Рік тому

      It's a lot more in depth than cooling typical for electronic boxes in the space or aero application. Aerospace has its own challenges for cooling though in things like turbine blades, hypersonic airframes, etc.

  • @volvagia6860
    @volvagia6860 Рік тому +14

    I've never been a fan of Nvidia's C-Suite, but Nvidia's engineering team is obviously extremely talented! I was really impressed by the cooling design of the 30 series, and hearing about the refinements they have been making to design the 40 series is awesome! Excellent content and excellent engineering by the Nvidia thermal engineering team!

  • @johnpvaldez99
    @johnpvaldez99 Рік тому +124

    This dude is seriously underrated, really appreciate his journalism (Newegg videos) and an appreciation for engineering like this one. Also it’s good to not be treated like a teen like some of those video’s from LTT.

  • @gmualum08
    @gmualum08 Рік тому +77

    I was a pre-engineering major in college (wanted to do mechanical engineering). Hearing Malcom talk in his engineering lingo, while fascinating, made me realize I made the right decision changing majors and doing this as a hobby instead. I just couldn't do the math lol.

    • @mickolesmana5899
      @mickolesmana5899 Рік тому +4

      welcome to engineering mate :)

    • @m8x425
      @m8x425 Рік тому

      Yeah.... it ain't easy. I know a lot of people that dropped out or changed majors because of the math.

    • @NoName-to5xl
      @NoName-to5xl Рік тому

      I made it till the end... its best not to force it, you made the right choice.

    • @ligametis
      @ligametis Рік тому +2

      Engineering is comparably light on math compared to pure math studies or physics

  • @djnorth2020
    @djnorth2020 Рік тому +7

    Incredible content. Really cool to see and hear things inside the GPU cooling.

  • @jonr6112
    @jonr6112 Рік тому +1

    Why does this give me a heavy sense of a guest coming into class and showing us all the cool things they brought and talk about themselves and what they do. I’m filled with child-like wonder and nostalgia

  • @BrySA20000
    @BrySA20000 Рік тому +134

    Malcolm seems like a genuinely nice and knowlegdeable guy, something very different compared to nvidia execs

    • @Kley96
      @Kley96 Рік тому +1

      And he is so handsome too!

    • @da-yb2nn
      @da-yb2nn Рік тому +2

      @@Kley96 Of course Nvidia engineers are Chads

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo Рік тому

      @@da-yb2nn
      he looks like a bottom though

    • @yournan7249
      @yournan7249 Рік тому +2

      @@Kley96 ikr some people have life set to easy mode. bro spawned with good looks, height and knowledge to get free cards forever

    • @popthiccle1158
      @popthiccle1158 Рік тому

      @@yournan7249 bro he's an engineer. nobody gives a shit what u look like if u don't have the knownledge to make a good product.

  • @dougtemple8474
    @dougtemple8474 Рік тому +44

    Clearly, Malcolm paid a lot of attention in the thermodynamics portion of his physics courses and it really grabbed him. Loads of really interesting stuff in this video, I'm sure a lot of it went over many viewers' heads (a lot went over my head but I understood a lot of what he was at least trying to get at.) When he's done working for nVidia I could see this guy being a physics professor at a university.

    • @timlaunyc
      @timlaunyc Рік тому +5

      In engineering, thermo is its own set of classes. But, airflow may be covered in a fluid dynamic class(es).

    • @kingplunger6033
      @kingplunger6033 Рік тому

      prof for engineering courses yes, "pure" physics no (ofc he might be able to, but apart from some intro courses, physics is very different)

  • @pgreenawalt
    @pgreenawalt Рік тому +2

    I want a job where I can make stuff and then cut it in half. Great video, but a lot of that went over my head. I loved Steve’s look like, “ok how are we going to edit this and explain what he is talking about?”

  • @notwhatitwasbefore
    @notwhatitwasbefore Рік тому +2

    Best bit is imagining the PR guys face as he fails to keep up.
    Excellent video

  • @Liquid_Truth
    @Liquid_Truth Рік тому +197

    Amazing video. Nobody doing it like Gamers Nexus.

    • @Chriscrusty
      @Chriscrusty Рік тому +7

      the video's not even out long enough for you to have watched it lmao

    • @lightchips6164
      @lightchips6164 Рік тому +2

      @@Chriscrusty He watched it at 2x speed lol

    • @snoochpounder
      @snoochpounder Рік тому +5

      Der8auer is also doing great work imo but yeah GN is sick af

    • @InvadeNormandy
      @InvadeNormandy Рік тому +1

      @@linuxsnob
      For your username you sure are missing the point.
      IE: "We're checking if this vapor chamber claim is marketing hokum and bunk or legitimate, and whether or not it's well designed. Which will have ramifications for cooling solutions and after market decisions and let you know if it's competently made or trash." Thus saving countless people potentially money or letting them know if there's any faith to be had in at least a part of the product.
      You're welcome, I did all your thinking for you.

    • @Chriscrusty
      @Chriscrusty Рік тому +1

      @@linuxsnob this is bait

  • @jasonjavelin
    @jasonjavelin Рік тому +20

    Mad lads, such an awesome video. That engineer kicks ass and was awesome on camera. What a chill and super knowledgeable guy in his craft

  • @schalkvanheerden6151
    @schalkvanheerden6151 Рік тому +4

    What a fascinating video. Great work! You guys did such a good job tackling the very technical aspects and in such a way that the conversation flowed so naturally. Really cool video. It felt like it went by so quickly and it was awesome to see all the close-up shots. The little explanation text in the video was soooo helpful.

  • @ThunderKat
    @ThunderKat Рік тому

    I'm impress how that engineer is holding nothing back, pure honestly on every word, no filters...

  • @JustinSlayton
    @JustinSlayton Рік тому +30

    Gamernexus has really jumped from a good and informative UA-cam channel to major tech news outlet. Honestly since moving into the new building I have truly seen an amazing jump in quality which is definitely saying something considering I already felt they gave high quality videos.

  • @drgngd
    @drgngd Рік тому +16

    Thank you GN for always trying to teach us something new every day. Your channel is amazing because you actually cover not just what the hardware is and what it's specs are, but why and how they're designed. I'm glad you're able to get engineers and other highly qualified people on for these kinds of videos. I'm also glad that your brutally honest reviews don't get in the way of manufacturers being willing to provide this expertise. Keep up the amazing work not only Steve but all of those who work at GN.

  • @jeramzPC
    @jeramzPC Рік тому

    As an engineer, I really enjoyed watching this. I also enjoyed watching how Steve handled the conversation with Malcolm. You can tell that Steve is also very passionate with how he responds and asking the right questions. I hope you guys do more contents like this in the future!

  • @dog_knight
    @dog_knight Рік тому

    Awesome video. I understood most, but not all of it. Incredibly interesting. Will have to watch it a few more times for it to sink in. It’s great to see all the effort that goes into these products and how passionate the people behind the leather jacket are.

  • @NewbGamingNetworks
    @NewbGamingNetworks Рік тому +10

    It’s amazing to finally hear the technical side of things. This is a “unique” generation where advertising like this works, so to some degree it makes sense why they did it.

  • @PerpetuallyTiredMusician
    @PerpetuallyTiredMusician Рік тому +10

    Behind every leather jacket and whitened smile on a stage there is hundreds of passionate people who actually make the darn thing. It does not make the asking price easier to swallow but hopefully it tempers and/or puts some of the more unreasonable reactions in perspective.
    This is great content, thank you.

  • @pmAdministrator
    @pmAdministrator Рік тому +4

    Thank you, NVIDIA, for this, and Gamers Nexus. This video is sick. Finally some real science.

  • @infra1
    @infra1 Рік тому +2

    Forget the company for a moment, look at the passion and smarts of this young kid. The world needs more inspiration of this sort! Great vid Steve et al.

  • @zackmatey1793
    @zackmatey1793 Рік тому +121

    Amazing. This is why GN is the best reviewer in the industry right now

    • @lilblackduc7312
      @lilblackduc7312 Рік тому +10

      He's always been "that smart kid with the scruffy beard & long hair". (8yrs ago) He started gaining recognition just a couple years ago, finally.

  • @bizzehdee
    @bizzehdee Рік тому +95

    Malcolm from NVIDIA seems super young, and incredibly inteligent... Gonna have a long and well paid career in front of him

    • @IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature
      @IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Рік тому +3

      I know a lot younger intelligent people would be hired if more companies looked at merit/ability rather than 'experience' and who you know.
      I would be excited to see what could be accomplished by giving them the right resources and guidance.
      ...Hmmm, maybe I can arrange something.

    • @JohnDoeWasntTaken
      @JohnDoeWasntTaken Місяць тому

      @@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Yeah... I'm one of those younger people. Hard to get your foot in the door when getting your foot in the door requires experience... Experience that requires having gotten your foot in the door. Catch 22.

  • @catbertz
    @catbertz Рік тому +14

    water jets are bonkers. 😱 Edit: Finished watching video. Malcolm was an awesome guest and educator for a non-engineer like me. I learned a ton and really enjoyed what you put together here. You guys are REALLY upping your content game across the board this year.

  • @tharun7290
    @tharun7290 Рік тому +1

    We need more videos like this! I least expect Nvidia of all companies to send engineers to feature in YT videos, this is far more valuable and interesting to watch than marketing speak

  • @captaindildar9581
    @captaindildar9581 Рік тому +52

    I can't stand the way NVIDIA operates in the industry but damn do they make some cool tech. Hats off to the engineers!

  • @gcngba22
    @gcngba22 Рік тому +17

    This video is super educative and fun. Kudos to the NVDIA engineer, the nexus production team and the donors that make this Content possible. 👏

  • @Sharkey007x
    @Sharkey007x Рік тому

    these are always fucking fascinating, thank you Steve and thank you Malcom for being able to come and do the interview!

  • @IanSinclair77
    @IanSinclair77 Рік тому +5

    He was fantastic. Great presentation skills, enthusiastic and very professional. Well done.

  • @EugeneNaidoo
    @EugeneNaidoo Рік тому +47

    This is why we love GN 🔥

  • @Deltarious
    @Deltarious Рік тому +28

    Watching videos like this always makes me wonder what NVIDIA's engineers and technical staff *really* think of their company's marketing and pricing strategies and how they feel generally about the reputation of their company. It would be wildly inappropriate to go around asking in most cases, but when you have people this intelligent contrasted against the almost predatory tactics companies sometimes use I can't help but wonder.

    • @ApolloPS2
      @ApolloPS2 Рік тому +3

      I mean the real answer is that those "predatory" tactics help balloon their salaries so they can work amongst the best talent and develop high cost cards that still have healthy margins. This thermal engineering R&D costs serious money to obtain.

    • @ligametis
      @ligametis Рік тому

      Most likely he has no idea how much everything costs. People working in finance know that way better

  • @markholmes2419
    @markholmes2419 Рік тому

    Really enjoyed this. I'm not an engineer and didn't fully understand everything (by a long way 🙂) but it's always delightful to listen to people speak when they are truly knowledgeable and obviously passionate about their subject. Steve's interviewing technique was also absolutley perfect; only chipping in when clarification was needed or to keep the flow and direction going. Great stuff!

  • @pdxholmes
    @pdxholmes Рік тому

    As an engineer I loved this video. It was the right blend of "engineering level detail" and making it digestible for a more general audience.

  • @bennie4857
    @bennie4857 Рік тому +12

    As an Aerospace Engineer it was a very interesting video, thanks Steve and the Nvidia team for giving Malcolm the opportunity to present the inner working of the engineering aspects of your manufacturing and design processes. Especially found it interesting that he highlighted the work that has to go in to the simplests of things like flow characterisation before you can even begin to tackle other parts of what you are trying to build. Would be a dream to have access to the type of compute power he does to run CFD and FEA sims. Keep up the good work.

  • @freeroamer6962
    @freeroamer6962 Рік тому +3

    Ok guys, how refreshing was it to see a competent person explaining the decisions and problems overcome in the design of the new tech you're contemplating (possibly lusting after, for better or worse. lol) Kudos to GN for serving those of us who are really tired of the marketing arms of a lot of these tech companies. You have "tech junkies" who have been in this game longer than some of your employees, we want the nitty gritty, and even if its not some "gamer fueled" marketing blitz, we will still choose your product based on our understanding of the competance you displayed at solving the problems presented to you, because we understand that is what pushes technology forward, overcoming obstacles, and that doesn't always present itself with some new breakthrough, but by a foundational understanding of what is known to us now. I for one put this in my running for all time best breakdowns/explanations. (Also, I hope someone high up at Nvidia took notice of their boy being an actual "giga-chad", through foundational knowledge and a willingness to explain in detail. You can'tbuy passion like that.)

  • @harlenc1776
    @harlenc1776 Рік тому

    Great video. Thanks Malcolm for coming out and sharing!

  • @Lambda.Function
    @Lambda.Function Рік тому +4

    Big props to nvidia for being open with their engineering for the public. One of the best decisions nvidia has ever made. I would love to hear from someone on the team why the cooler is so over-built for the 4090 and why the card ships so hot by default. It would still crush the market at 70% power target but use 100W less and need much less cooling, but have that room for overclocking.

    • @DoNotFitInACivic
      @DoNotFitInACivic Рік тому

      That, likely, was a C suite decision. As it seems that NVIDIA plans to drive the AIBs out of the market, and having that much OC benefits on the table for those "little" companies to show off would hinder that.

  • @BrianPardee
    @BrianPardee Рік тому +9

    This was very neat. Thanks, Steve and crew for doing this video. It's these kind of technical videos which keep me engaged with GN compared to some other channels.

  • @PHF28
    @PHF28 Рік тому +11

    It's always awesome to see the amount of knowledge, engineering and manufacturing work dedicated to things that are going to be hidden. And cool to see that NVIDIA recognised the marketing potential of this. Great job, Steve.

  • @4Leka
    @4Leka Рік тому

    Gotta applaud nVidia for sending their engineers to do interviews. You can really see how enthusiastic he is about the design work they are doing.

  • @TheChudoviste
    @TheChudoviste Рік тому

    This kid is SMART!
    And he definately is schooling in thermodynamics science.
    And he is getting a TON of PRACTICAL
    experience working on these coolers,and it shows.He isn't applying only the theory he learned at school.The benefits of PRACTICAL experience in here is priceless. The kid almost got everything rigt.

  • @jeffhampton6972
    @jeffhampton6972 Рік тому +43

    This is so much fun to watch. You two are the types that make people want to learn math because it's actually cool.

    • @Snarkbar
      @Snarkbar Рік тому +3

      Malcolm makes me want to go back and get a math PHD.

    • @Watchfulfox
      @Watchfulfox Рік тому

      Working at NASA did that for me.

  • @chrisfortune1813
    @chrisfortune1813 Рік тому +11

    Love the engineering overload. Odd how physics is physics and many of the concepts overlap different specific disciplines. I was an oilfield researcher in my younger days and the "rarefied" concepts of porosity and permeability were voodoo science (I am talking early '80s here) and now they are discussed in tech heavy but almost mainstream media conversation. This is one of the most enjoyable videos I have watched recently an I hope it is the prelude to many more deeper dives.

  • @JFirn86Q
    @JFirn86Q Рік тому

    Love the detailed videos and technical insight instead of just watered down high level stuff. Would like to see more of it. Thanks.

  • @pauldehayes1898
    @pauldehayes1898 Рік тому

    As a lab person who processed thermal spray coatings through epoxy mounts, that's a nice polish from what I can see. I don't think you'd use a diamond-based polishing paste for this application, but would be interesting to know what is used for softer materials. Used to polishing metals like 300 and 400-series SS, Inconel, and Tungsten Carbide; with nickel-based alloys as well as ceramic coating types bonded to the aforementioned metals. Love this kind of stuff!

  • @Wintergreen56
    @Wintergreen56 Рік тому +4

    The fan calculations were great to hear about. These are some of my favorite types of videos from GN. It's great to hear all the information from someone who is so enthusiastic about it.

  • @Bloodline2009
    @Bloodline2009 Рік тому +5

    Absolutely fascinating. The young man Malcolm clearly has a very bright future ahead of him. Thanks for sharing this highly detailed information, it's hugely interesting to watch and listen to.

    • @halrichard1969
      @halrichard1969 Рік тому +2

      For an Engineer he has mad verbal skills.

    • @Bloodline2009
      @Bloodline2009 Рік тому +4

      @@halrichard1969 I was thinking the same. Also, I noticed he was wearing his wrist watch on his right arm which probably means he's left handed. Left handed people are normally good with details.

  • @milowadlin
    @milowadlin Рік тому

    My father in law did some work on fan design back in the 1980s that was extremely primitive by comparison. The fans in question were used in nuclear power plants in the cooling towers. He recognized that the original designers had pulled the design out of their butts. He brought in his TRS-80 computer from home to assist him in milling the fans, and tested various designs in a wind tunnel. He came up with many improvements.

  • @MiltonGeorges
    @MiltonGeorges Рік тому

    Really awesome to see a young engineer in Malcolm involved in a major product launch like this. Great career ahead of him!

  • @foxtrap614tango8
    @foxtrap614tango8 Рік тому +14

    This is just awesome. I am an engineer and this is really enjoyable.

  • @christophercasale7961
    @christophercasale7961 Рік тому +5

    It's great to have a deep dive with someone who is both deeply knowledgeable and passionate. I learned a bunch of things about vapor chambers and fans today.

  • @AvenEngineer
    @AvenEngineer Рік тому +1

    I love seeing the enthusiasm of a young engineer. Malcolm is wicked smart!

  • @arkanrais
    @arkanrais Рік тому

    This is why I love listening to engineers talk about products they had a hand in designing.
    Their passion shines strait through, they get right into the details,, and the only thing they try to spin is the fans and pumps.

  • @XMegaJuni
    @XMegaJuni Рік тому +7

    This is why I love Gamer Nexus, they haven't gotten so big that they need to make videos of family members building PCs for goodwill after drama... They aren't just sponsored videos..

  • @BabyMayCry
    @BabyMayCry Рік тому +83

    I love Malcolm and his passion. Very knowledgeable and enthusiastic. I hope people who worked on the GPUs like him understand that the hate NVIDIA's getting isn't because of them, but because of the poor decisions their execs are making.

    • @bigshobe
      @bigshobe Рік тому

      They’re making tons of money so the execs are making the right decisions

    • @Cxs1a3
      @Cxs1a3 Рік тому +2

      You're straight up deluded if you think these engineers don't want to be promoted to executive position and end up making the exact same decisions when they're given the position.

    • @LV-ii7bi
      @LV-ii7bi Рік тому +5

      @@Cxs1a3 Nah bro, not everyone wants to climb a ladder. Some people are actually self aware.

    • @insoYT
      @insoYT Рік тому +6

      @@Cxs1a3 No sir, you are the deluded one here. I've worked with different engineers for past 10 years in several industries from aviation to this stuff. These engineers are not interested to climb up the ladder to find out themselves in positions where they couldn't do actual engineering work. Engineers' love for engineering is pure.

  • @HybridMarco
    @HybridMarco Рік тому +7

    Pure passion, taking such complex ideas and showcasing their thought process behind it was incredible. Making engineering cool is an understatement

  • @SunsetJam
    @SunsetJam Рік тому

    I don't have much a technical mind as I once thought. Something I've learned the hard way over the last few years. So even though it's GN, I went into this vid expecting it to be dry and exhaustively boring to me. Lo and behold, these two had me entranced from the get-go. The explanations were clear, concise and still informative. And it wasn't even the cutting that kept my attention, but just the general workings of the cooler. Kudos for these two, especially from the engineer. Like others here have said, he has no shortage of passion and talent towards his specialty.