I liked the idea of Logan and Victor being brothers in the Origins movie, even if the movie wasn’t so good. Jackman and Liev did a good job portraying them
@@damianprock1650 a r rating won't save it cause deadpool was a bussy popping dualogy and wolverine was a garbage movie from a garbage time line that they can't even accurately bring to movies cause they ain't got the rights to every marvel character and replaced wolverine with the made for xmen evolution o.c. gender swapped character x23
@@tyronleung5276 I wouldn't be so sure, having X23 be Wolverine's daughter in *Logan* really put things into perspective for us, when Tchaka died in a fight with Ulysses Klaw, his son, Tchalla took his place as the Black Panther, I reckon the same can be said for Damian Wayne when his father, Bruce ends up killed by forces sent by Plankton
Kind of surprised you guys didn't mention the relationship with Sabretooth and Mystique. Also surprising is the fact that despite both of them being mutants, their son was born human who ended up hating mutants, forming The Friends of Humanity.
Wolverine actually grew up in an affluent family. His abusive life didn't start until after his biological father killed the man who was raising him in front of him
Wolverine actually grew up in an affluent family. His abusive life didn't start until after his biological father killed the man who was raising him in front of him
One version that's not often brought up is the age of apocalypse sabertooth, in an alternate timeline where apocalypses evil rules the world, even in a time were heroes like Hank McCoy are turned into twisted servents to him, in a twist that timelines Victor Creed stands with the resistance against apocalypse and shows his heroism, not just in figuring him, but being a father to Blink. I loved this sabertooth, including when he continued his story with Blink across alternate realities in the Exiles comics.
@@reapersritehand Yeah, which suggests the path of evil he follows in the main 606 timeline was averted by the events of apocalypse rising to power, and Victor going down an entirely different path, instead of embracing apocalypses evil, he stood against it in the end siding with magneto.
That was because Sabretooth became popular in the 90's, and Age of Apocalypse gave a great long alt dystopian (What If? type) story. Plenty of role reversals. All while the characters struggled with what they were in essence. It was successful. Prime (back to 616) merged the personality types through the M'Kraan. Victor Creed as a character was able to be accepted by fans as potentially Heroic, and brought through rehab before the Phalanx Covenant. Blink with Sabretooth was relatable like how Kitty Pryde had a Mentor/Caretaker in Wolverine. It was just a great time. Later on, Exiles expanded on it with a lot of fun adventures.
@@memorydrain7806 yeah I know this version of Victor died in exiles comics 😔, but because its comics I like to hold out belief either he still exists in another alternative timeline or he'll come back to life one day, since you know, comics
Man I read that comic as a kid and loved that sabretooth. It was my first experience with alternate versions of characters and people and not blew my mind
In the movies Wolverine could beat Sabretooth but in the comics Sabretooth was always a step ahead and was always a Big Brother type villain...I actually likes the idea of them being related since their powers are so similar
Sabertooth, Mr. Sinister and Magneto... 3 of the greatest villains. Not to be confused with most powerful/greatest powers. And all originating from X-men.
The reason why Sabretooth is more "brutal" and aggressive than Wolverine is because Sabretooth never got the Adamantium infusion. Wolverine would be EXACTLY as savage as Sabretooth; however, since Wolverine got the Adamantium infusion attached to his bones, his body/healing factor are CONSTANTLY trying to fight it off (it is a foreign substance to his body). That fight going on within Wolverine was causing his body to focus on healing him, instead of focusing on his inherent feral instincts. However, since Sabretooth's body has nothing to fight, he becomes more and more feral as time goes on. You see Sabretooth as a child, and he looks normal; just like Wolverine did. Then, you see them getting older, and Victor starts acting more aggressive (with the "attacking" the women during war-times). Logan wasn't as old as Victor, so he still had some time before Logan became as vicious as Victor. Then, Wolvarine got the Adamantium, and you can clearly see he remains just about the same from then on. But, if you look at Victor, he continues to further become more beast-like. Victor ends up growing longer K-9 teeth; longer hair; his hands becoming claws; his feet starting to look like paws; his eyes begin to lose their humanity. That's why you don't see Sabretooth in the Logan movie. Sabretooth continued to get feral to the point where he couldn't control himself. He went "insane" and began killing indiscriminately. And, some "alphabet government agency" sent agents to kill him before he causes any more damage. Meanwhile, in the same movie, the doctor whom helped Logan told him that he had "something" inside him which was killing him. The funny thing is, the same Adamantium which was killing him NOW, was the same Adamantium which prevented him from going full-on feral beast mode. It was the Adamantium which was killing him, but it also helped him keep his humanity until the very end.
It's why X-23 is the best mix of both. Her claws are coated yet that's it. She's already just as dangerous as Creed due to the Trigger scent where she can wipe out a whole town like it's nothing. Only due to her own guilt from those events she isn't more feral. Yet she's still very young.
To further your point look at what happened to Logan when he got the metal ripped out I hated how they messed with "hes gonna be Logans older half brother" to "jus kidding dog is a different person and he's human"
@@krankkid7394 That wasn't in the MAIN X-Men storyline. He got enhancements in some other "Universe." You even hear Stryker tell Sabretooth how he get the Adamantium in his bones like Logan did, because Sabretooth's body can't handle it (in X-MEN Origins - Wolverine).
Victor Creed Sabretooth is one of the few "Street Level" Marvel Villains tht would almost undoubtedly defeat Batman in their 1st fight. If Batsy lives then Bruce attones.
One of my favorite comics with Wolverine and Sabertooth is a poster comic. Half of the pages flip out into larger poster sized pages and the art style was amazing. After a massive fight leaves both bloody and battered, Sabertooth tell Wolverine if he lets him live then he'll hunt down and kill everyone he knows. Wolverine with Sabertooth pinned against the wall and his fist under his chin, Wolverine pops two claws and lobotomized Sabertooth. For several comics after that one Sabertooth was just a big dumb puppy kept in a jail cell that was more like a nature reserve like he was just another animal in a zoo
I remember Sabretooth from the comics but what really took it is when he appeared in X-men the animated series. The way Wolverine reacted to just the smell of Sabretooth let's you know it's darker and alot more sinister between them.
Great video! I love Sabretooth. He's ruthless, and a great addition to Marvel. He's definitely part of the darker side of comics, and I love it. Ps. Love the layout and format of the video. It was a fun watch.
Good video, but there are some flaws with what you've stated: 1. Wolverine and Sabretooth are NOT brothers in the mainline comics (Earth-616) 2. Wolverine Origin II mentions Creeds brother Saul and Clara (Saul ended up being killed by Logan in a scuffle and Clara cut all ties with Logan as a result) 3. Part of the reason Victor hates Logan so much is that Logan pretty much killed Saul, who was apparently Victor's punching bag and with him gone Victor pretty much desired a new one (And we all know who...)
Sabretooth is too hardcore for modern day comics and MCU. He can't be watered down, sissified, or made to push an agenda. Creed is cold. He kills and gets off on it.
I hope they will make his rivalry with wolverine more recognized in mcu because we all know back in the day everytime logan can smell sabretooth you can feel that something's bad is gonna happen
He crawled his way out of hell. He was originally meant to be an irredeemable villain but he has done some unselfish things from time to time. He has layers
Sabretooth is such an interesting character. This video gave a basic history, but Creed is one of the most savage, terrifying and bloodthirsty characters marvel has. He terrorised the X men in the 90s and early 2000s. Shame he's been so dumbed down in recent years.
During the “axis” story line Sabretooth along with some other villains had their morality flipped and become good guys as well some heroes turned more villainous. After some events everyone got flipped back except for Sabretooth and some other characters, so he was a hero for a while until his last bit of good ran out when sacrificed himself for the soul of his dead son Graydon. Wish they kept the hero version instead of returning him back.
@@alexferrana3979 Perro Celia Great That His Offspring Redeemed Him, that He broke the cycle of abuse that his father did and that his son did not suffer.
This particular character.....is what any of us could hope for concerning ability as a human being. The difference being our healing, sensory & durability factors would be absolutely stellar surpassing what Logan presents for example. They each have been insane not savage as killing or molestation of any sort for that matter is unnatural as instinct denotes hence their capacity being restricted by default instead of meek, mighty or each. Research regenerative medicine, tamarind & martial artistry as well as vegan as vegan is all about 100% food/drink solely yet + spirituality. I KNOW we can achieve such capacity per one of us. Intuition denotes it. To the beach bod. 👣
Liev Schreiber was a great sabretooth I even liked the scene were Logan and sabretooth were tied up and he said to Logan wake me up when they finished shooting at us even the xmen 90’s cartoon version was awesome i was shocked they did a PDST episode of Sabretooth horrified of his past, were mystique and sabretooth partners at one stage correct me if I’m wrong
You're not wrong my guy *Sabertooth and Mystique* were getting it in so much that Sabertooth shot her club up. Then Mystique carried his offspring son to full term. She realized that their son is not a mutant and she dump him off. I can't remember what his first name is, but he does have Sabertooth's last name in Creed. I think he's like William Stryker and the Friends of Humanity zealots.
One more thing Liev Schreiber was great as Sabertooth arrogant, cocky and snarkey remarks. I believe they drew Liev Schreiber's face onto the current Sabertooth that's on lockdown in Krakcoa.
I love Sabertooth. It’s so sad that he’s only in 2 of the X-men movies, and never in anything else except cartoons. He’s so cool and he’s so much like Wolverine, except of course being more bloodthirsty. On a scale of 1 to 10, (1 being a normal human, and 10 being Logan at his peak), I give Sabertooth’s healing power about a 7 or an 8.
Marvel needs a new SuperVillain Team: Leader-Mr. Sinister; #2 & CFO- Archangel; Muscle-Juggernaut; V. Creed & Mystique as Lead Assassins; Destiny & Psylocke as scout/espionage team;
@@benparrish672 it was scary to wake up to if I had a nightmare. But I had many Batman and Kiss posters with a bloody Gene Simmons too. Come to think of it I only had an Edsy Van Halen and Yngwie Malmsteen posters that were not scary.
One key thing on Sabertooth's backstory that was left out on this video is that on the rising popularity of the character, it was considered to have Sabertooth be in fact Logan's father. For many issues on the Wolverine early comics, every time Sabertooth would appear to attack Logan one way or the other, they would argue about their "Father and Son" status. Logan always was doubtful of this but Sabertooth was completely full on board thinking that he was indeed was Logan's father, until Logan, SilverFox, Maverick, Sabertooth and others from the Weapon X program were compelled to return to the facilities and there they discovered all the experiments that all of them were subjected to. SilverFox believed that the false memories that they all were subjected to made even her past relationship with Logan a false memory but it was revealed that they really had been together and that Sabertooth did indeed attack her, even intimately to hurt Logan. Also it was confirmed that Logan and Victor were NOT Father and son at all, just that they have an almost identical mutation, which led to the whole Romulus story line about a mutant that had claws like both Wolverine and Sabertooth, and was supposedly older with a stronger Healing Factor than both of them. At some point even Victor was feeling overwhelmed by his Blood lust that he couldn't deal with himself. And For sometime, Sabertooth had a Telepath Mutant called Birdie that would help him control his ever increasing blood lust. After many missions, when he would return she would give him a sort of Telepathic "Fix" that would tone down his animalistic violent tendencies. This would allow him to function normally and even made him seem peaceful and functional, but in one mission, Birdie was shot and killed, and Victor though minimally distress, decided that he was already tired of the fix and in one point was considering offing Birdie himself, embracing his animal side. The Romulus character had claimed that in ancient times when Mutants were emerging, and Homosapiens had evolved to their present line, a deviation of the Canine Lupus line have had a similar evolution as primates and that all animalistic Mutants were descendants of this line. Characters like Logan, Victor, Feral, Wildchild, Sasquatch and the such. Supposedly Dark haired clans of the animalistic Mutants were always at war against the Light haired Clans, and this was so ingrained into their genes that the descendants of these clans would instinctually fight one another, as a way to justify Logan's and Victor's rivalry. That was also revealed to be a lie, but it was also revealed on key element to Sabertooth, and that was that he had been successfully cloned many times as well. This would show that his appearance in Iron Fist where in one issue he had been killed would turn out that that a Sabertooth was a clone. The revelation would also explain why in many appearances Sabertooth he looked different and also in some, like in his early Iron Fist appearance he sometimes didn't have claws nor a healing factor. Also Apocalypse had also killed a Sabertooth clone in a comic, and eventually Logan would too kill a Sabertooth clone that had eviscerated Feral with Silver Samurai's Katana that nullified the Healing Factor. Indeed, Sabertooth is a great character and a darker vision of Logan, had the latter would give into his own Blood Lust and animalistic mutation.
@@edwardbloecher4563 I think many of us were into the idea of them being father and son. Even presently, though knowing that they are not related, one could accept them actually have some sort of blood relation.
Sasquatch isint mutant and Claremont original plan was that Sabretooth with John Byrne costume was weaker clone and The one with Jim Lee costume was original.
@@kanukki84 All the same, in the Romulus storyline Sasquatch was also considered a descendant of this supposed line of Hominid Lupines, as well as any humanoid animalistic character, even the Wolf morphing Wolfsbane. Just look up the storyline...though as I said, it all was proven to be a lie from Romulus anyway.
@@EternalRoman they have lupine ancestry that's how their related their mutation is supposed to turn them into what wolfsbane feral sasquatch thornn wild child
Sabertooth in the comics originally was not Wolverine's brother. Sabertooth believed he was Wolverine's father but then they had a DNA test proving that he wasn't related to Wolverine at all. But for years saber to have memories falsely implanted by The weapon x program showing that he is Wolverine's father. That is why he would punish Wolverine on his birthday because he used to punish Wolverine as a child on his birthday well he was believed to have punish Wolverine on his birthday but that never really happened again those were memory implants. I believe it was in Wolverine 42 or 43 where he revealed that he was Wolverine's father.
I remember Sabretooth from Ironfist and Daredevil Comics. Plus I remember him from the Black Suit Spiderman Comics. It didn't seem like they knew what to do with him so they passed him off to Wolverine which was smart and ended up classic.
First of, great voice, pleasant to listen. Second, Tyler Mane>Liev Schreiber. Third, Sabretooth has been my favorite for many years now and I've seen many of his ups and downs, from his character development, but most of it is bad, lets be honest, he's no role model. I'd like to add few things. First, there was What if: Cat and mouse, where he was at his most terrifying, he killed Beast and Bishop but was at the end killed by Jubilee. Second, there was a one shot comic that came out before second X-men movie, that explains his absence from the sequel. It was actually somewhat wholesome, as him and Wolverine were having a beer talking about their forgotten past trying to recollect memories, before getting attacked by Special ops and being taken on a plane above Canada's mountains, then it was tragic in the end, Sabretooth saved Logan from them (by throwing him out of a plane) and it is mentioned that Sabes didn't survive adamantium bonding, giving an explanation why he was ever in second movie. The comic is called X-men 2: Movie prequel Wolverine, if anyone is interested.
X-Men Origins: Wolverine was a shit movie, but making Logan and Victor half brothers actually made sense and worked for their story and the film. It makes sense as to why their powers are so similar and gives a deeper meaning as to why Victor loved to torment Logan. Since he was so ruthless already, giving in to his wild side, tormenting his brother just suits his character. Plus the fact that he knows Wolverine can put up a fight and heal from whatever wounds he gets, it makes sense why he continues to attack him every year.
Sabretooth and Wolverine aren’t brothers,aren’t father and son,none of that. They just have a similar mutation. They left out that Sabretooth is a former partner of The Constrictor and used to partner with him against Luke Cage and Iron Fist.
He's also very tough against telepaths and mind control types. They have a hard time against Victor. There was a long time in the 90s we thought Creed was Wolvies father. He's always been a rascal.
For the movie they decided to use Sabretooth instead of Dog actual brother me. Because of Sabretooth popularity and general audience wouldn't know who Dog is.
I hope they brought Victor from the Wolverine movie back for DP3 . Dude was the only good version of the character. And I like how he kept calling him Jimmy 😂.
@@biguy617 ye have little faith, you saw him help Wolverine defeat Weapon 11, there's even been times when Magneto joined forces with the X-Men whenever they end up with a common enemy and a common goal, there's especially been times when the villains got their own movies, *Joker,* *Venom,* and even the new *Morbius* movie are such good examples of why Sabretooth deserves either a movie or a show of his own
It would be great if they got another shot at a live action movie. I would love to see them square off with the full potential of what those two are capable of. It'll never happen, sadly.
Tbh I wish they made a horror sabretooth movie where it’s just a bunch of regular average people trying to survive against sabretooth as he tries to kill them brutally since ik sabretooth was a serial killer in the comics
Everyone talks so much trash about X-men Origins. It was a good movie. I liked it back in 2009 and still love it now. It’s actually gotten better with age. Especially juxtaposed against a lot of modern stuff.
@@jackalope2302 I think they didn’t want two Wolverine villains in the same movie for X2. You already have Deathstrike. You don’t need Sabertooth again. X3 though had Juggernaut but he was badly written. The character was better in Deadpool 2. I did like seeing Sabertooth played by Liev Schieber in X-Origins but I didn’t like him written as Wolverine’s brother and no explanation as to how he becomes the Taylor Mane version. I suspect Stryker did something to his mutation to make him more animalistic but we are never told what.
@@biguy617 They made Deathstrike hot Sabertooth instead of a cyborg. That was meh. I don't think B. Singer did anything good with any villains but Magneto and Mystique
@@jackalope2302 I liked seeing her as a mutant instead of a cyborg. That made more sense. I just don’t like that she isn’t Logan’s ex-girlfriend like she is in the comics. It makes her a bland character.
When the MCU brings Wolverine I really hope they do Sabertooth justice and have him appear more frequently like Loki and maybe have him be a Villain in the beginning but then become more of an Anti Hero down the line and it’s a little dumb I know but have him and Wolverine be half brothers
I would have loved to see Liev or Leiv (I forgot how to spell his name) from origins in LA movies more as I loved him, very good but kinda creepy performance
They still haven't done a proper sabretooth. I remember the first xmen movie actually had someone who resembled Sabre too but than that Liev dude got the role and Butchered it. Sabretooth the wildest enemy of wolverine has not yet been portrayed as he was in the comic books.
Sabretooth had also killed another mutant with similar powers: Feral! He not only killed Feral, but partially cannibalizes her, which caused Wolverine to decapitate him.
Funnily enough , Sabretooth was SUPPOSED to be Logan’s FATHER in the comics! But editorial nixed that (Possibly because he first appeared in Iron Fist.). I personally prefer the Team X origin myself (They used to be teammates/ friends , but they had a falling out . That works better, I think .).
I liked the idea of Logan and Victor being brothers in the Origins movie, even if the movie wasn’t so good. Jackman and Liev did a good job portraying them
Sabretooth is one of the rawest most blood thirsty villains and Hollywood always screws him up. He needs his own r rated film for real!
Disney not going to allow it and fox messed up all the x men story lines powers and characterization
@@tyronleung5276 I wouldn't be so sure, with Disney being boycotted, they might not be left with no other choice, an r rating might be in order
@@damianprock1650 a r rating won't save it cause deadpool was a bussy popping dualogy and wolverine was a garbage movie from a garbage time line that they can't even accurately bring to movies cause they ain't got the rights to every marvel character and replaced wolverine with the made for xmen evolution o.c. gender swapped character x23
Liev was sold and intimidating as Sabertooth was the only good thing about the movie
@@tyronleung5276 I wouldn't be so sure, having X23 be Wolverine's daughter in *Logan* really put things into perspective for us, when Tchaka died in a fight with Ulysses Klaw, his son, Tchalla took his place as the Black Panther, I reckon the same can be said for Damian Wayne when his father, Bruce ends up killed by forces sent by Plankton
Kind of surprised you guys didn't mention the relationship with Sabretooth and Mystique.
Also surprising is the fact that despite both of them being mutants, their son was born human who ended up hating mutants, forming The Friends of Humanity.
You just wait til they join the Suicide Squad
Their son was in the X-Men cartoon; actually .
@@matthewschwartz6607 interesting
@@matthewschwartz6607 Yep
Because their son was born without mutant powers and deep-down he was envy for mutants because of their powers
Sabretooth has been one of my favorite Supervillains in Marvel Comics. He grew up in a Abusive childhood just like Wolverine did.
Wolverine actually grew up in an affluent family. His abusive life didn't start until after his biological father killed the man who was raising him in front of him
Wolverine actually grew up in an affluent family. His abusive life didn't start until after his biological father killed the man who was raising him in front of him
One version that's not often brought up is the age of apocalypse sabertooth, in an alternate timeline where apocalypses evil rules the world, even in a time were heroes like Hank McCoy are turned into twisted servents to him, in a twist that timelines Victor Creed stands with the resistance against apocalypse and shows his heroism, not just in figuring him, but being a father to Blink.
I loved this sabertooth, including when he continued his story with Blink across alternate realities in the Exiles comics.
Loved the him and wildchild relationship, and it still showed flashbacks of him and weapon x working black ops back in the day
@@reapersritehand Yeah, which suggests the path of evil he follows in the main 606 timeline was averted by the events of apocalypse rising to power, and Victor going down an entirely different path, instead of embracing apocalypses evil, he stood against it in the end siding with magneto.
That was because Sabretooth became popular in the 90's, and Age of Apocalypse gave a great long alt dystopian (What If? type) story. Plenty of role reversals. All while the characters struggled with what they were in essence. It was successful. Prime (back to 616) merged the personality types through the M'Kraan. Victor Creed as a character was able to be accepted by fans as potentially Heroic, and brought through rehab before the Phalanx Covenant.
Blink with Sabretooth was relatable like how Kitty Pryde had a Mentor/Caretaker in Wolverine.
It was just a great time. Later on, Exiles expanded on it with a lot of fun adventures.
@@memorydrain7806 yeah I know this version of Victor died in exiles comics 😔, but because its comics I like to hold out belief either he still exists in another alternative timeline or he'll come back to life one day, since you know, comics
Man I read that comic as a kid and loved that sabretooth. It was my first experience with alternate versions of characters and people and not blew my mind
Liev’s performance in origins was so good! Hope they bring him back
I hope not. That Sabertooth was garbage
Dude was almost as bad the movie gtfoh 😂
He is going to be in Deadpool 3 I'm pretty sure.
Terrible sabretooth
In the movies Wolverine could beat Sabretooth but in the comics Sabretooth was always a step ahead and was always a Big Brother type villain...I actually likes the idea of them being related since their powers are so similar
Sabertooth, Mr. Sinister and Magneto... 3 of the greatest villains.
Not to be confused with most powerful/greatest powers.
And all originating from X-men.
Sabertooth in the 80s and 90s was savage as fuck
The reason why Sabretooth is more "brutal" and aggressive than Wolverine is because Sabretooth never got the Adamantium infusion. Wolverine would be EXACTLY as savage as Sabretooth; however, since Wolverine got the Adamantium infusion attached to his bones, his body/healing factor are CONSTANTLY trying to fight it off (it is a foreign substance to his body). That fight going on within Wolverine was causing his body to focus on healing him, instead of focusing on his inherent feral instincts. However, since Sabretooth's body has nothing to fight, he becomes more and more feral as time goes on.
You see Sabretooth as a child, and he looks normal; just like Wolverine did. Then, you see them getting older, and Victor starts acting more aggressive (with the "attacking" the women during war-times). Logan wasn't as old as Victor, so he still had some time before Logan became as vicious as Victor. Then, Wolvarine got the Adamantium, and you can clearly see he remains just about the same from then on. But, if you look at Victor, he continues to further become more beast-like. Victor ends up growing longer K-9 teeth; longer hair; his hands becoming claws; his feet starting to look like paws; his eyes begin to lose their humanity.
That's why you don't see Sabretooth in the Logan movie. Sabretooth continued to get feral to the point where he couldn't control himself. He went "insane" and began killing indiscriminately. And, some "alphabet government agency" sent agents to kill him before he causes any more damage. Meanwhile, in the same movie, the doctor whom helped Logan told him that he had "something" inside him which was killing him. The funny thing is, the same Adamantium which was killing him NOW, was the same Adamantium which prevented him from going full-on feral beast mode. It was the Adamantium which was killing him, but it also helped him keep his humanity until the very end.
It's why X-23 is the best mix of both. Her claws are coated yet that's it. She's already just as dangerous as Creed due to the Trigger scent where she can wipe out a whole town like it's nothing. Only due to her own guilt from those events she isn't more feral. Yet she's still very young.
To further your point look at what happened to Logan when he got the metal ripped out
I hated how they messed with "hes gonna be Logans older half brother" to "jus kidding dog is a different person and he's human"
9:12-9:20. What about that? Is there an explanation for that?
@@krankkid7394 That wasn't in the MAIN X-Men storyline. He got enhancements in some other "Universe." You even hear Stryker tell Sabretooth how he get the Adamantium in his bones like Logan did, because Sabretooth's body can't handle it (in X-MEN Origins - Wolverine).
Loved the vid. Got my solo Sabretooth issues up to almost 40. Surprisingly, the only x- "villian" that even comes close in self titled books is Mags.
Born in 84 & sharpened by 90's Edge; Sabretooth & Juggernaut were nigh-perfect X-Men SuperVillains.
Victor & Cain should always b Villains
Sabretooth to Wolverine: COME GET ME, RUNT
Victor Creed Sabretooth is one of the few "Street Level" Marvel Villains tht would almost undoubtedly defeat Batman in their 1st fight. If Batsy lives then Bruce attones.
He's not street level. He can take on a full super team. He's a solo tank. He's a bit above stree level.
Yes
Of course he would healing factor and brutal.
Batman is so freaking overrated lol Shit a regular thug can defeat Batman
@@sonicmoore6196 nah
One of my favorite comics with Wolverine and Sabertooth is a poster comic. Half of the pages flip out into larger poster sized pages and the art style was amazing. After a massive fight leaves both bloody and battered, Sabertooth tell Wolverine if he lets him live then he'll hunt down and kill everyone he knows. Wolverine with Sabertooth pinned against the wall and his fist under his chin, Wolverine pops two claws and lobotomized Sabertooth. For several comics after that one Sabertooth was just a big dumb puppy kept in a jail cell that was more like a nature reserve like he was just another animal in a zoo
I remember Sabretooth from the comics but what really took it is when he appeared in X-men the animated series. The way Wolverine reacted to just the smell of Sabretooth let's you know it's darker and alot more sinister between them.
Great video! I love Sabretooth. He's ruthless, and a great addition to Marvel. He's definitely part of the darker side of comics, and I love it.
Ps. Love the layout and format of the video. It was a fun watch.
They need to get someone huge and imposing to play Sabertooth in his next movie appearance. The last time in a movie wasn’t convincing for me
Consider Logan is supposed to be 5'2 but Hugh Jackman is 6'0+ Liev was a good choice..
Saber tooth in the first X-men movie was as saber tooth should be, tall and brutish. Tyler mane is like 6’9 and he also plays Michael myers
Good video, but there are some flaws with what you've stated:
1. Wolverine and Sabretooth are NOT brothers in the mainline comics (Earth-616)
2. Wolverine Origin II mentions Creeds brother Saul and Clara (Saul ended up being killed by Logan in a scuffle and Clara cut all ties with Logan as a result)
3. Part of the reason Victor hates Logan so much is that Logan pretty much killed Saul, who was apparently Victor's punching bag and with him gone Victor pretty much desired a new one (And we all know who...)
Thank you
@@thompsonaaron83 No prob! :)
Guess nobody kills Saul but Victor
Didn't Victor kill Clara and eat her flesh
@@chrisedwards3214 No
Make your video and f off lol
Sabretooth is too hardcore for modern day comics and MCU. He can't be watered down, sissified, or made to push an agenda. Creed is cold. He kills and gets off on it.
Sup comics explained, i really like your work
Should see what he did in the new comic for Wolverines birthday.
I hope they will make his rivalry with wolverine more recognized in mcu because we all know back in the day everytime logan can smell sabretooth you can feel that something's bad is gonna happen
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He crawled his way out of hell. He was originally meant to be an irredeemable villain but he has done some unselfish things from time to time. He has layers
Sabretooth is such an interesting character. This video gave a basic history, but Creed is one of the most savage, terrifying and bloodthirsty characters marvel has. He terrorised the X men in the 90s and early 2000s. Shame he's been so dumbed down in recent years.
Good choice but I'm going to go with Omega Red.
Definitely needs his own series
Sabretooth has a redemptive story arc in the "Age of Apocalyps" comic books.
During the “axis” story line Sabretooth along with some other villains had their morality flipped and become good guys as well some heroes turned more villainous. After some events everyone got flipped back except for Sabretooth and some other characters, so he was a hero for a while until his last bit of good ran out when sacrificed himself for the soul of his dead son Graydon. Wish they kept the hero version instead of returning him back.
I didn’t like that one. Sabretooth doesn’t work as anything other than a villain.
Heroes are as boring as white bread.
@@matthewschwartz6607 Agree. Sabretooth is a vicious murderer who enjoy mayhem and violence
@@alexferrana3979 Perro Celia Great That His Offspring Redeemed Him, that He broke the cycle of abuse that his father did and that his son did not suffer.
This particular character.....is what any of us could hope for concerning ability as a human being. The difference being our healing, sensory & durability factors would be absolutely stellar surpassing what Logan presents for example.
They each have been insane not savage as killing or molestation of any sort for that matter is unnatural as instinct denotes hence their capacity being restricted by default instead of meek, mighty or each.
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Ryan Hurst would Rock as MCU’s Sabretooth
I've seen a few videos about Sabertooth. And this one is the best.
I loved both Taylor Mane and Leib Shreibers movie adaptations of Saber Tooth
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Liev Schreiber was a great sabretooth I even liked the scene were Logan and sabretooth were tied up and he said to Logan wake me up when they finished shooting at us even the xmen 90’s cartoon version was awesome i was shocked they did a PDST episode of Sabretooth horrified of his past, were mystique and sabretooth partners at one stage correct me if I’m wrong
YEAH, Liev Schreiber's portrayal of Sabretooth is ASTONISHING!
Yes Liev Schreiber play sabertooth to perfection.
You're not wrong my guy *Sabertooth and Mystique* were getting it in so much that Sabertooth shot her club up. Then Mystique carried his offspring son to full term. She realized that their son is not a mutant and she dump him off. I can't remember what his first name is, but he does have Sabertooth's last name in Creed. I think he's like William Stryker and the Friends of Humanity zealots.
One more thing Liev Schreiber was great as Sabertooth arrogant, cocky and snarkey remarks. I believe they drew Liev Schreiber's face onto the current Sabertooth that's on lockdown in Krakcoa.
He sucked as Sabertooth
I love Sabertooth. It’s so sad that he’s only in 2 of the X-men movies, and never in anything else except cartoons. He’s so cool and he’s so much like Wolverine, except of course being more bloodthirsty. On a scale of 1 to 10, (1 being a normal human, and 10 being Logan at his peak), I give Sabertooth’s healing power about a 7 or an 8.
Jason Momoa would be a perfect cast for Sabretooth ....He basically looks like Victor Creed
Marvel needs a new SuperVillain Team: Leader-Mr. Sinister; #2 & CFO- Archangel; Muscle-Juggernaut; V. Creed & Mystique as Lead Assassins; Destiny & Psylocke as scout/espionage team;
YOU THOUGHT YOU AND YOUR PITIFUL X-MEN COULD STOP ME!!!!!!!
I didn't know Jaws were located on the knuckles.
Liev's Sabertooth needs a film
I love Sabertooth. I had a poster of him over my bed as a kid.
Tht seems odd & terrifying to wake up to. Coo tho. Victor Creed is a badass
I'd prefer to wake up seeing my 1st love, Rogue from X-Men TAS
One of the few Marvel characters who’s two live action iterations are both great
@@thedude8457 Liev was the truth!
@@benparrish672 it was scary to wake up to if I had a nightmare. But I had many Batman and Kiss posters with a bloody Gene Simmons too. Come to think of it I only had an Edsy Van Halen and Yngwie Malmsteen posters that were not scary.
6:40 deadpool was weapon 11, not weapon X (10). Logan was weapon X
Although I absolutely adore leiv Schreiber I have to say that I liked the sabertooth variation from the original X-Men movies
Yeah, Tyler Mane gave us Sabretooth at his most savage
One key thing on Sabertooth's backstory that was left out on this video is that on the rising popularity of the character, it was considered to have Sabertooth be in fact Logan's father. For many issues on the Wolverine early comics, every time Sabertooth would appear to attack Logan one way or the other, they would argue about their "Father and Son" status. Logan always was doubtful of this but Sabertooth was completely full on board thinking that he was indeed was Logan's father, until Logan, SilverFox, Maverick, Sabertooth and others from the Weapon X program were compelled to return to the facilities and there they discovered all the experiments that all of them were subjected to. SilverFox believed that the false memories that they all were subjected to made even her past relationship with Logan a false memory but it was revealed that they really had been together and that Sabertooth did indeed attack her, even intimately to hurt Logan. Also it was confirmed that Logan and Victor were NOT Father and son at all, just that they have an almost identical mutation, which led to the whole Romulus story line about a mutant that had claws like both Wolverine and Sabertooth, and was supposedly older with a stronger Healing Factor than both of them.
At some point even Victor was feeling overwhelmed by his Blood lust that he couldn't deal with himself. And For sometime, Sabertooth had a Telepath Mutant called Birdie that would help him control his ever increasing blood lust. After many missions, when he would return she would give him a sort of Telepathic "Fix" that would tone down his animalistic violent tendencies. This would allow him to function normally and even made him seem peaceful and functional, but in one mission, Birdie was shot and killed, and Victor though minimally distress, decided that he was already tired of the fix and in one point was considering offing Birdie himself, embracing his animal side.
The Romulus character had claimed that in ancient times when Mutants were emerging, and Homosapiens had evolved to their present line, a deviation of the Canine Lupus line have had a similar evolution as primates and that all animalistic Mutants were descendants of this line. Characters like Logan, Victor, Feral, Wildchild, Sasquatch and the such. Supposedly Dark haired clans of the animalistic Mutants were always at war against the Light haired Clans, and this was so ingrained into their genes that the descendants of these clans would instinctually fight one another, as a way to justify Logan's and Victor's rivalry. That was also revealed to be a lie, but it was also revealed on key element to Sabertooth, and that was that he had been successfully cloned many times as well. This would show that his appearance in Iron Fist where in one issue he had been killed would turn out that that a Sabertooth was a clone. The revelation would also explain why in many appearances Sabertooth he looked different and also in some, like in his early Iron Fist appearance he sometimes didn't have claws nor a healing factor. Also Apocalypse had also killed a Sabertooth clone in a comic, and eventually Logan would too kill a Sabertooth clone that had eviscerated Feral with Silver Samurai's Katana that nullified the Healing Factor.
Indeed, Sabertooth is a great character and a darker vision of Logan, had the latter would give into his own Blood Lust and animalistic mutation.
I remember that story arc. It was a fun little mystery though. Sure had me wondering lol.
@@edwardbloecher4563 I think many of us were into the idea of them being father and son. Even presently, though knowing that they are not related, one could accept them actually have some sort of blood relation.
Sasquatch isint mutant and Claremont original plan was that Sabretooth with John Byrne costume was weaker clone and The one with Jim Lee costume was original.
@@kanukki84 All the same, in the Romulus storyline Sasquatch was also considered a descendant of this supposed line of Hominid Lupines, as well as any humanoid animalistic character, even the Wolf morphing Wolfsbane. Just look up the storyline...though as I said, it all was proven to be a lie from Romulus anyway.
@@EternalRoman they have lupine ancestry that's how their related their mutation is supposed to turn them into what wolfsbane feral sasquatch thornn wild child
Sabertooth in the comics originally was not Wolverine's brother. Sabertooth believed he was Wolverine's father but then they had a DNA test proving that he wasn't related to Wolverine at all.
But for years saber to have memories falsely implanted by The weapon x program showing that he is Wolverine's father.
That is why he would punish Wolverine on his birthday because he used to punish Wolverine as a child on his birthday well he was believed to have punish Wolverine on his birthday but that never really happened again those were memory implants.
I believe it was in Wolverine 42 or 43 where he revealed that he was Wolverine's father.
And I thought Mystique was the only villain who wasn't created for the X-Men.
They both have a racist anti mutant human son friends of humanity leader graden creed
@@tyronleung5276 who in turn is the half brother to Nightcrawler.
@@rodgill9376 yep
I hope Sabertooth appears in the insomniac Wolverine game! A brutal boss fight between Logan and Creed.
He is one hell of a classic villain
Sabretooth is definitely one of my favorite characters, dudes a real savage.
I remember Sabretooth from Ironfist and Daredevil Comics. Plus I remember him from the Black Suit Spiderman Comics. It didn't seem like they knew what to do with him so they passed him off to Wolverine which was smart and ended up classic.
A guy fitting his description was accused of The Woodsburrow murders. 😂 😂 😂
Sabertooth is wolverine’s number one villain in my opinion.
First of, great voice, pleasant to listen. Second, Tyler Mane>Liev Schreiber. Third, Sabretooth has been my favorite for many years now and I've seen many of his ups and downs, from his character development, but most of it is bad, lets be honest, he's no role model. I'd like to add few things. First, there was What if: Cat and mouse, where he was at his most terrifying, he killed Beast and Bishop but was at the end killed by Jubilee. Second, there was a one shot comic that came out before second X-men movie, that explains his absence from the sequel. It was actually somewhat wholesome, as him and Wolverine were having a beer talking about their forgotten past trying to recollect memories, before getting attacked by Special ops and being taken on a plane above Canada's mountains, then it was tragic in the end, Sabretooth saved Logan from them (by throwing him out of a plane) and it is mentioned that Sabes didn't survive adamantium bonding, giving an explanation why he was ever in second movie. The comic is called X-men 2: Movie prequel Wolverine, if anyone is interested.
voice of God right here, I clearly imagine Dennis Haysbert narrating the whole thing
My favorite X villain. He used to be so awesome before they made him a mindless animal.
X-Men Origins: Wolverine was a shit movie, but making Logan and Victor half brothers actually made sense and worked for their story and the film.
It makes sense as to why their powers are so similar and gives a deeper meaning as to why Victor loved to torment Logan. Since he was so ruthless already, giving in to his wild side, tormenting his brother just suits his character. Plus the fact that he knows Wolverine can put up a fight and heal from whatever wounds he gets, it makes sense why he continues to attack him every year.
you missed an importants detail. Victor origionally wanted revenge on Logan because Logan killed his brother. This happens in Origins II
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Sabretooth yeah hands down is one of my favorite villains...
Sabretooth and Wolverine aren’t brothers,aren’t father and son,none of that. They just have a similar mutation. They left out that Sabretooth is a former partner of The Constrictor and used to partner with him against Luke Cage and Iron Fist.
Yeah, didn’t Sabretooth just use that as a way to trick Wolverine? Did they even mention Graydon Creed in the movies?
Would love to see Sabretooth take on a Wendigo!
That's a real thing. Check out Sabretooth "open season" 4 issue mini-series.
Sid Eudy would have been perfect casting for playing Sabertooth in the movies.
He's also very tough against telepaths and mind control types. They have a hard time against Victor. There was a long time in the 90s we thought Creed was Wolvies father. He's always been a rascal.
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Sabertooth is my favorite villain for mutants
You said Victor and Logan spent the next few centuries... bro, didn't you just say their lives together started in the mid 1800's?
Don't forget he was part of the First X-Men Movie too.
For the movie they decided to use Sabretooth instead of Dog actual brother me. Because of Sabretooth popularity and general audience wouldn't know who Dog is.
Also because Dog is really just a cheap powerless version of Sabretooth anyway
AND, in various versions of the MCU, is His FATHER, SON, and HALF-BROTHER!!!...That's GROSS!!!
A man that actively goes out of his way to piss of wolverine is a scary dude
I hope they brought Victor from the Wolverine movie back for DP3 . Dude was the only good version of the character. And I like how he kept calling him Jimmy 😂.
Can you do one on Cyber , please? Since we’re doing Wolverine villains (I recently caught your video on Omega Red.).
Sabertooth needs his own show
Exactly, especially since Peacemaker got his own show after the second Suicide Squad movie
He is an antagonist not a protagonist.
@@biguy617 you always say that, besides, Sabretooth usually joins forces with the good guys only when it benefits him
@@damianprock1650 but he is never really a good guy. He is a villain.
@@biguy617 ye have little faith, you saw him help Wolverine defeat Weapon 11, there's even been times when Magneto joined forces with the X-Men whenever they end up with a common enemy and a common goal, there's especially been times when the villains got their own movies, *Joker,* *Venom,* and even the new *Morbius* movie are such good examples of why Sabretooth deserves either a movie or a show of his own
My top favorite villain
I prefer Sabertooth over wolverine
I hope the new version of the character gets Admantium claws like Wolverine does.
@@biguy617 back when I was reading them he hunted Wolverine because he hated that Logan had the admantium
@@thecartoonsthatmadeus4 he was jealous. He wanted the metal claws too.
I can remember when one of the origins was sabertooth being wolverines dad.
I love what they doing to him in the current comic books .. he gonna get his revenge on Kaokra island where the mutants are now living at
I'm surprised sabortooth hasn't graduated to cannibalism yet considering he sees every one as prey, you'd think it be a natural progression for him.
In the comics , he actually did once or twice .
It would be great if they got another shot at a live action movie. I would love to see them square off with the full potential of what those two are capable of. It'll never happen, sadly.
Tbh I wish they made a horror sabretooth movie where it’s just a bunch of regular average people trying to survive against sabretooth as he tries to kill them brutally since ik sabretooth was a serial killer in the comics
Everyone talks so much trash about X-men Origins. It was a good movie. I liked it back in 2009 and still love it now. It’s actually gotten better with age. Especially juxtaposed against a lot of modern stuff.
Tyler Mane as Sabertooth is a frightening looking creature.
Yeah but he was written in a bland way. I wanted more from the character.
@@biguy617 me too. I was disappointed that he didn't comeback for X2 or X3.
@@jackalope2302 I think they didn’t want two Wolverine villains in the same movie for X2. You already have Deathstrike. You don’t need Sabertooth again. X3 though had Juggernaut but he was badly written. The character was better in Deadpool 2. I did like seeing Sabertooth played by Liev Schieber in X-Origins but I didn’t like him written as Wolverine’s brother and no explanation as to how he becomes the Taylor Mane version. I suspect Stryker did something to his mutation to make him more animalistic but we are never told what.
@@biguy617 They made Deathstrike hot Sabertooth instead of a cyborg. That was meh.
I don't think B. Singer did anything good with any villains but Magneto and Mystique
@@jackalope2302 I liked seeing her as a mutant instead of a cyborg. That made more sense. I just don’t like that she isn’t Logan’s ex-girlfriend like she is in the comics. It makes her a bland character.
When the MCU brings Wolverine I really hope they do Sabertooth justice and have him appear more frequently like Loki and maybe have him be a Villain in the beginning but then become more of an Anti Hero down the line and it’s a little dumb I know but have him and Wolverine be half brothers
They won't cause he's a serial killing cannibal
17 years Jackman played Wolverine. But we've yet to get the 6'8 320 lb Sabertooth.
Meaning no disresept, I have to say Liev Schreibers Sabertoorh makes that other one look like a yeti.
Sabertooth finds Wolverine on his birthday every year just to fuck him up haha
Chris Claremont’s Sabretooth was the best. Marvel screwed the pooch with this amazing character.
I would have loved to see Liev or Leiv (I forgot how to spell his name) from origins in LA movies more as I loved him, very good but kinda creepy performance
“ you didn’t come to warn me, you came to save your own ass…!”
To be very clear though, in comic book canon, Logan and Sabertooth are not and have never been brothers. That was just Hollywood movie BS as usual.
They combined Victor Creed and Dog Logan on X-Men origins.
Wolverine vs Victor Creed in X-men orgins Wolverine was awesome 😎
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They still haven't done a proper sabretooth. I remember the first xmen movie actually had someone who resembled Sabre too but than that Liev dude got the role and Butchered it. Sabretooth the wildest enemy of wolverine has not yet been portrayed as he was in the comic books.
Alexander skarsgard would be a great casting for sabertooth.
Sabretooth had also killed another mutant with similar powers: Feral! He not only killed Feral, but partially cannibalizes her, which caused Wolverine to decapitate him.
From 1800 something, they spent the next few centuries? That would put them like 200 years into the future. A century is 100 years
My favorite Sabretooth appearance is where he has a barfight with the Hulk, and the Hulk kicks the living daylights out of him. 😂
That was Grey Hulk, he beat his ass
When was this?
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Funnily enough , Sabretooth was SUPPOSED to be Logan’s FATHER in the comics! But editorial nixed that (Possibly because he first appeared in Iron Fist.). I personally prefer the Team X origin myself (They used to be teammates/ friends , but they had a falling out . That works better, I think .).
I always thought of Sid Vicious the wrestler as Sabretooth.
Alexander Skarsgard is perfect for the character. He has the muscle to play the character.
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The Brotherhood of Mutants Ch. 6
Sabretooth, Wolverine's Brother & Mystique's Ex-Husband.