Yeah... D'Sparil - experienced, well trained, good at what he does. Spider Mastermind - smart, cybernetically enhanced, has a genetically spliced vulkan-cannon with an unlimited ammo supply. It'll come down to who wants it most. :D But class plays a role in this fight - if D'Sparil starts on his serpent, Spider Mastermind should start in her web. But she didn't. Let that be a lesson to us all.
He's doing that little damage because D'sparil is a boss lol. civvie doesn't know what he's talking about. The monsters in heretic are no more bullet sponges than Doom's
@@Razumen I mean, bullet sponginess wasn't the thing Civvie hated about them, there was also attacks (cough hack Iron Lich) and the fact he was playing on Black Plague.
@@heatedchocolate2 Iron Liches are easy, only attack that causes trouble of the tornado, and that's easily neutered with the Shadowsphere. He's also dumb for reviewing it based on Black Plague, it's not at all a balanced mode, just like Nightmare difficulty in Doom. Absolutely no one plays that the first time around. In all, he just doesn't know what he was talking about, and that happens a lot with all these new "reviews" of old games.
@@Razumen I mean, if you've seen the video, it clearly wasn't his first time playing it, iirc he'd said he had beaten the game on Smite-Meister before. As part of his self-imposed challenge to beat the games he plays (Well, good games like Blood or Shadow Warrior or Doom and the like.) on the highest skill he can that doesn't respawn monsters, as Black Plague doesn't do that, he played on it.
@@heatedchocolate2 Considering all the things he was wrong about, I very much doubt that. And it doesn't matter, you DON'T review a game based solely on it's hardest difficulty.
a lot of people mentioning teleport but I'm not entirely sure that could be beneficial to D'sparil's tactics. it will cut the chaingun but the fight was on open arena anyway.
worth to remember that D'sparil isn't just the character himself but the teleport platforms as well and the ability to teleport between them. and as the openness of the map plays advantage for him in the fight, it should also be considered to be part of D'sparil as a boss.
It's interesting to note that both the Maulotaur and D'Sparil won the fights with their Doom equivalents... yet most people would always attest to Doom being much harder.
i played heritic and hexen as well and those are hard fights but i do find the doom bosses harder mastermind is worse than the cyberdemon with its hit scanner weapon heritic was easier to me in the long run since splash damagebosses or hit scanners werent really a thing on those 2
The outcome went exactly how I expected it to: Spider-Demon guns down D’Sparil on the serpent, then is seemingly dominating D’Sparil solo. But once D’Sparil starts summoning his Disciples, the Spider-Demon can’t handle the numbers. Oddly enough, it ended up being closer than I thought at the end.
Esta batalla es muy engañosa, debido a que parece ser que hay dos momentos en los que D´Sparil hace ciertas cosas que hacen que la batalla no nos quede del todo clara... parece que en un lapso recupera HP mientras que en otro simplemente su HP no baja, justo luego de morir su serpiente y mostrarse él mismo, cuando aparecen los acólitos pensé que la batalla estaba acabada pero de alguna forma el HP de D´Sparil se vino abajo y la Mastermind destruyó algunas de sus invocaciones volcando la Chaingun al final ya sobre él... el resultado es que luego de una batalla bastante engañosa, ambos estuvieron a punto de perder... Sin duda el ataque de más daño era el del báculo de D'Sparil por golpe, pero la Superchaingun llegaba a hacer más daño fácilmente mientras más tiempo se sostuviera el disparo, pero como digo.. nunca te fies de D'Sparil, ya que atacando en conjunto con sus acólitos fue lo que le dió la victoria..., habían mermado tanto el HP de la Mastermind que unos cuantos rayos con su báculo bastaron para darle fin... Tanto esta como la de los Boss del segundo episodio estuvieron geniales... dejo like...!
Ah, I see what you mean (translate). Unfortunately, monsters which have multiple forms (only D'Sparil in this mod) don't show their health properly when they die and rise into second form. If I remember correctly, first D'Sparil form have 2000 health, and second have 3000. So, when he dies and resurrects, the surplus health don't show (but he has got this health). Only when he is damaged below 2000 the bar will show this (because it is "locked" on the default health of first form = 2000). Also, his spawns add their health to the bar, so when he spawns wizards, he's health bar will increase, and when they die (they got some time limit, around 30 seconds) it shows as D'Sparil is loosing health. That may be not perfect, but I left it as that. Cheers!
Jaja ya pasaron 2 años, pero bueno, lo que realmente pasa al ver que la barra de D'Sparil sube y baja rapidamente es porque cuando la Spider ataca a uno de sus discípulos, se le ve la barra de estos otros. Lo mismo pasa con los Pain Elemental, cuando atacan a un Soulpain se ve la barra de este.
Taking a break after doing some Doom2 maps pistol start, so I relaxed and I make some experiments with the arena mode ;) I have a question though: I made the cyberdemon battle with some ettins, since I wanted to see him gibbing them, and to my surprise that did not happen. By making more experiments I noticed that the Cyberdemon ONLY gibs VERY weak enemies, such as the Heretic Gargoyles and Zombiemen and shotgunners. Why does this happen? Because AFAIK the cybie's rocket deals a maximum of 160, and splash damage deals a maximum of 128, making a total of 288. Ettins have 175HP, therefore they should have been gibbed. Why it didn't happen, since Ettins do have gibbing animations?
To gib, a single source of damage needs to do enough damage to run their health down to negative their maximum. The rocket's raw damage and splash damage count as separate sources, just like each individual bullet from an SSG would, so It doesn't gib.
You can kill easily that masterminded-spider with 3 shots of the BFG, but you can not kill D'sparil with just 3 shots of Phoenix Rod. Have you ever tried how it is hard to kill D'sparil?
You can actually easily kill the spiderdemon with a single BFG shot if you do it at melee range, as can be seen here: ua-cam.com/video/SaRT5IkDAiw/v-deo.html I wouldn't even consider it a real boss, at least the versions we see in the Doom base-game. Some mods do place the spiders in tricky positions that make them a lot harder, like places where you can't fire a melee BFG Shot, but even there, they aren't much of a problem most of the time.
@@pantheman2842 The only thing you can do is to use tome of power. But Heretic itself is a very unbalanced game about the weapons and bosses. You can come across a boss in very tight places, and weak weapons don't make it easy. Try Hexen without cheating. Hexen 2 is not good, but first Hexen is really a brain and adventure game. The mood is incredibly perfect...
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The Spider Mastermind OWNED the first phase. So, D'Sparil called clones to get the upper hand. Close fight indeed.
That ended way closer than I expected it to. Spiderdemon did really well considering the odds piling against her with the disciple summonings.
Man this is much more fun to watch than I thought
I'm getting this mod for sure
lol d'sparil cheater uses summonfriend wizard
D'Sparil is useless without his annoying teleporting around.
he still won
With the help of his clones, do you know what would have happend without them?
Yeah, his contstant teleporting is rely annoying. It didnt involve that.
The spider is useless dead and look... there it is. rsrs
I was going to say.. where the hell of the teleporting? They really need to put in some teleport points into the arena.
2:08 D'Sparil's victory dance. :)
Man, don't mess with D'Sparil's cronies, yo. They be beatin' you up right soon.
This is the place I least expect you to be in
@@thealandude9146 Why are people always so surprised when I watch videos that are not my own?! xD
Well, he is about to get rekt by the Cyberdemon for killing his leader.
What a comeback!
D'Sparil calls in Disciples like there is no tomorrow in Black Plague (Nightmare) mode - Spidey girl would barely stand a chance!
spidey... girl... lol... although I agree it was epic battle.
@@normanharrison8215 The Spidermastermind is female.
spider mastermind should summon arachnotrons for a fair match
surprisingly close and awesome matchup! This tc mod looks incredibly cool and I look forward to trying it out!
Yeah... D'Sparil - experienced, well trained, good at what he does. Spider Mastermind - smart, cybernetically enhanced, has a genetically spliced vulkan-cannon with an unlimited ammo supply. It'll come down to who wants it most. :D
But class plays a role in this fight - if D'Sparil starts on his serpent, Spider Mastermind should start in her web. But she didn't.
Let that be a lesson to us all.
PS. D'sparil vs Heresiarch is an insane matchup
This is super fun! Great mod
Seeing the Spidermastermind do so little damage with the Super Chaingun gives me more of an understand as to why Civvie hates the enemies in Heretic.
He's doing that little damage because D'sparil is a boss lol. civvie doesn't know what he's talking about. The monsters in heretic are no more bullet sponges than Doom's
@@Razumen I mean, bullet sponginess wasn't the thing Civvie hated about them, there was also attacks (cough hack Iron Lich) and the fact he was playing on Black Plague.
@@heatedchocolate2 Iron Liches are easy, only attack that causes trouble of the tornado, and that's easily neutered with the Shadowsphere.
He's also dumb for reviewing it based on Black Plague, it's not at all a balanced mode, just like Nightmare difficulty in Doom. Absolutely no one plays that the first time around.
In all, he just doesn't know what he was talking about, and that happens a lot with all these new "reviews" of old games.
@@Razumen I mean, if you've seen the video, it clearly wasn't his first time playing it, iirc he'd said he had beaten the game on Smite-Meister before. As part of his self-imposed challenge to beat the games he plays (Well, good games like Blood or Shadow Warrior or Doom and the like.) on the highest skill he can that doesn't respawn monsters, as Black Plague doesn't do that, he played on it.
@@heatedchocolate2 Considering all the things he was wrong about, I very much doubt that.
And it doesn't matter, you DON'T review a game based solely on it's hardest difficulty.
a lot of people mentioning teleport but I'm not entirely sure that could be beneficial to D'sparil's tactics. it will cut the chaingun but the fight was on open arena anyway.
worth to remember that D'sparil isn't just the character himself but the teleport platforms as well and the ability to teleport between them. and as the openness of the map plays advantage for him in the fight, it should also be considered to be part of D'sparil as a boss.
It's interesting to note that both the Maulotaur and D'Sparil won the fights with their Doom equivalents... yet most people would always attest to Doom being much harder.
Doom is the N.1
i played heritic and hexen as well and those are hard fights but i do find the doom bosses harder mastermind is worse than the cyberdemon with its hit scanner weapon
heritic was easier to me in the long run since splash damagebosses or hit scanners werent really a thing on those 2
@Piter DeVries i might have to try it
To be fair, the monsters can't use artifacts.
D'Sparil: heal-d'sparil | summonfriend-wizard
Me: You are just a dirty hacker, aren't you?
lol at the disciples using arachnotron death noise
Nobody can stop D'Sparil, expect Corvus. 😎
Cyberdemon)
Just like DnD, the action economy is everything. 😁
AWESOME FIGHT! EPIC! WHAT A COMEBACK, AT FIRST I THOUGHT THE SPIDER WAS GOING TO WIN "UH, HE CAN'T EVEN ATTACK BACK, SPIDER IS GOING TO A EASY WIN"
The spider mastermind is stronger than we give credit for
The outcome went exactly how I expected it to: Spider-Demon guns down D’Sparil on the serpent, then is seemingly dominating D’Sparil solo. But once D’Sparil starts summoning his Disciples, the Spider-Demon can’t handle the numbers. Oddly enough, it ended up being closer than I thought at the end.
And D'Sparil couldn't even teleport...
plus that stun lock xD
The green chaos serpent had no chance. His master no problems.
Esta batalla es muy engañosa, debido a que parece ser que hay dos momentos en los que D´Sparil hace ciertas cosas que hacen que la batalla no nos quede del todo clara... parece que en un lapso recupera HP mientras que en otro simplemente su HP no baja, justo luego de morir su serpiente y mostrarse él mismo, cuando aparecen los acólitos pensé que la batalla estaba acabada pero de alguna forma el HP de D´Sparil se vino abajo y la Mastermind destruyó algunas de sus invocaciones volcando la Chaingun al final ya sobre él... el resultado es que luego de una batalla bastante engañosa, ambos estuvieron a punto de perder... Sin duda el ataque de más daño era el del báculo de D'Sparil por golpe, pero la Superchaingun llegaba a hacer más daño fácilmente mientras más tiempo se sostuviera el disparo, pero como digo.. nunca te fies de D'Sparil, ya que atacando en conjunto con sus acólitos fue lo que le dió la victoria..., habían mermado tanto el HP de la Mastermind que unos cuantos rayos con su báculo bastaron para darle fin... Tanto esta como la de los Boss del segundo episodio estuvieron geniales... dejo like...!
Uhh...I assume you did like the video. Sorry mate, I don't understade spanish (though I really would like to learn it!)
Ah, I see what you mean (translate). Unfortunately, monsters which have multiple forms (only D'Sparil in this mod) don't show their health properly when they die and rise into second form. If I remember correctly, first D'Sparil form have 2000 health, and second have 3000. So, when he dies and resurrects, the surplus health don't show (but he has got this health). Only when he is damaged below 2000 the bar will show this (because it is "locked" on the default health of first form = 2000). Also, his spawns add their health to the bar, so when he spawns wizards, he's health bar will increase, and when they die (they got some time limit, around 30 seconds) it shows as D'Sparil is loosing health. That may be not perfect, but I left it as that. Cheers!
Yeah, I think in this way, but I was not sure of that, thanks for reply me...! (I don't speak english but I try)
Jaja ya pasaron 2 años, pero bueno, lo que realmente pasa al ver que la barra de D'Sparil sube y baja rapidamente es porque cuando la Spider ataca a uno de sus discípulos, se le ve la barra de estos otros. Lo mismo pasa con los Pain Elemental, cuando atacan a un Soulpain se ve la barra de este.
@@orkokts eso lo explica todo, tenía la misma duda
Dsparil is like: Yeah yeah yeah yeah
So the bfg would of destroyed that thing that bad?
GREAT fight ! I like it :))
The start of the second round was confusing. Close combat bug?
Probably more health than the bar can display.
SM almost killed his but as soon as the clones came into play, SM is dead. Still pretty damn close to killing D'Sparil!
Magic against technology: win
Taking a break after doing some Doom2 maps pistol start, so I relaxed and I make some experiments with the arena mode ;)
I have a question though: I made the cyberdemon battle with some ettins, since I wanted to see him gibbing them, and to my surprise that did not happen. By making more experiments I noticed that the Cyberdemon ONLY gibs VERY weak enemies, such as the Heretic Gargoyles and
Zombiemen and shotgunners. Why does this happen? Because AFAIK the cybie's rocket deals a maximum of 160, and splash damage deals a maximum of 128, making a total of 288. Ettins have 175HP, therefore they should have been gibbed. Why it didn't happen, since Ettins do have gibbing animations?
To gib, a single source of damage needs to do enough damage to run their health down to negative their maximum. The rocket's raw damage and splash damage count as separate sources, just like each individual bullet from an SSG would, so It doesn't gib.
Yeah, DOOM came first.... but Heretic did it BETTER.
Spider HUMBLEDMIND lol
Spider Mastermind needs to work on its aim
Spidermastermind deserved to win.
She got the firts blood and keep the fire !!
She did stomp the first round though.
Why doesn't d'sparil seem to take damage right after he resurrects?
His health does not show properly. His health bar is locked on 2000 health, and he resurrects at 3000.
You can kill easily that masterminded-spider with 3 shots of the BFG, but you can not kill D'sparil with just 3 shots of Phoenix Rod. Have you ever tried how it is hard to kill D'sparil?
You can actually easily kill the spiderdemon with a single BFG shot if you do it at melee range, as can be seen here: ua-cam.com/video/SaRT5IkDAiw/v-deo.html I wouldn't even consider it a real boss, at least the versions we see in the Doom base-game. Some mods do place the spiders in tricky positions that make them a lot harder, like places where you can't fire a melee BFG Shot, but even there, they aren't much of a problem most of the time.
Phoenix Rod is not a BFG, it's the rocket launcher in terms of power.
@@pantheman2842 PR was the best weapon of Heretic, but not a boss killer.
@@RadioRelax87 That's true. Is there ANY boss killer on Heretic? Maulotaurs took forever and I am coming for D'Sparil.
@@pantheman2842 The only thing you can do is to use tome of power. But Heretic itself is a very unbalanced game about the weapons and bosses. You can come across a boss in very tight places, and weak weapons don't make it easy. Try Hexen without cheating. Hexen 2 is not good, but first Hexen is really a brain and adventure game. The mood is incredibly perfect...
its Spider Mastermind
he should use teleports too
Thats the thing that bothers me about Dsparil and Corax both re great bosses but they depend so much of the map
d'sparil vs cyber?
I did that experiment once and for some reason the Cyberdemon did WAY worse than the Spiderdemon
Ohh...
Healing AND clones!? COME ON
There is no healing. Summoned monsters health is added to the bar, and is taken away when they die.
pregunta ?este mod funciona con otra mejoras de monstruos de otros mods¿
Lo siento, pero no.
@@orkokts pues ya probe y parece que si bro
This looks fin
HAHA
Nah, boss versus normal monster in doom 2 is useless comparison