Finance guy here! The board is filled with members that are part of the bigger holders which is held by Vanguard, Blackrock, State Street who own about 20% of the company. assuming they hold a bit more than 20% of the board and still uphold the ESG model. They can have say on who the top executives are, get fired, or who can stay. When you have the stake holders leveraging board room seats while flexing their sell pressure of the stock. It creates a very outside controlled environment with no use for what happens to 1 series or a branch of the business. The main business is the parks admission and concessions it seems and there hasnt been a large decline in visit to the park. Nostalgia sells even with mayhem occurring.
From what I've been told, Producers take a large cut in the beginning as a safety net if the project fails. Also, I remember Katee Sackhoff stated for season 3 of Mandalorian that the catering costed more than Battlestar Galactica
Up front checks and salaries have increased costs, probably still get bonuses. While everywhere else in the world, bonuses are being taken away, CEO’s and high executives are making more while low income isn’t going up. Budgets everywhere in the world are being blown and mismanaged. It’s insane. People can go to college and let their ambition and projects take over the focus from expenses vs revenue.
I’m an illustrator. In the mid 90s I was hired by West End Games to illustrate a book for the Star Wars RPG called “Tapani Instant Adventures.” One of the drawings I was assigned was a portrait of a rodent-like private detective. It had a bit of a film-noir thing going on, so I put the character in a fedora as a nod to that genre. Lucasfilm licensing, who had final approval over everything WEG published, rejected the art saying that “fedoras are too Earth-like. Nothing in Star Wars should directly reference anything in real life.” I had to change the hat (I actually just added a pair of goggles to it, which was enough to satisfy Lucasfilm). I can’t help but wonder if that would still be the case today.
@@RglKent Awesome! That was literally my first professional art job. Lucsfilm’s rejection of that piece always comes to mind when I see things like Rebels holding unmodified AK-47s (or whatever they were) in ANDOR. I’m like, old Lucasfilm would have never put up with that. That’s just damned lazy production.
That's a perfect example of how they've lost their way. Lucasfilm used to be so dedicated to every little detail it was extremely rare they would miss anything. Now they just miss stuff on purpose it seems.
It looks extremely lazy when Disnified designers create things that look exactly like something on Earth, eg that Star Wars Outlaws companion is just an axolotl. I played and ran West End Star Wars back in the day, created a massive campaign with locations, spaceships, droids, new TIE variants. Blown away that you did art for their supplements!
I wouldn't doubt it. Dune 2 could have had an even smaller budget and still be good because it has competent filmmakers working on it, and great source material to draw from. A bad filmmaker will make a bad film, no matter how much money you give them. They also had great source material to draw from, and still f'ed it up.
It's either massive money laundering or a complete federal government psyop in the Entertainment industry to push identity politics and divide not only the fan base of this franchise but divide them to the core of their beliefs and thus cultivating a weak, divisive and broken civilian population, which is what the Government wants.
These people act as if they purchased a famous and profitable steak house chain, show up wearing "Beef is Murder" t-shirts, change the menu to vegan, and now are complaining that all customers are gone and leaving 1/2 stars!
Loved that! I can now leave the PC and go to bed with a genuine smile (after a stressful day of study). LOL! How deeply stupid are these left-wing activists???
That doesn't take into account inflation, though. Saying that the budget for each movie with inflation was probably the same as Dune 2...and they made billions from that franchise. Shows how bad the Acolyte did
As someone who is a Cast Member at Disney, the super frustrating thing is that we've had multiple rounds of lay-offs since this show, most recently two days ago, even more people cut. And now it makes sense. The awful thing is that the regular employees pay with their jobs, the ability to pay for their families, due to the REPEATED mistakes of the seven to eight figure-salaried executives at the top who are NEVER touched. There is zero accountability for the bosses greenlighting these disasters, yet, $30/hour people are cut. I still believe in what Disney can be again, that's why I'm still there but we have got to stop this sandbox mentality of "just play with $300 million and see what happens," like with The Marvels being around $280 million. Keep in mind... the recent WWI EPIC film, "All Quiet on the Western Front," with huge battle scenes, cost $20 million. That's not a typo.
We're seeing a pattern of skyrocketing budgets when scifi/fantasy/superhero projects are given to showrunners or film directors who have little experience and/or have never worked with CGI before. She Hulk, Rings of Power, The Acolyte, The Marvels, etc etc. 2 years ago a CGI worker for the MCU even spoke out about this, saying that these kinds of filmmakers don't know how to articulate or visualize what kind of fx they want, and so the result is often not what they wanted and the CGI teams have to start over again. He said this has led to production delays and inflated budgets. Yet the studios continue to not learn their lesson.
Hi Theory, long time silent fan here, I watch all your vids, joined (almost) all your watch parties... And I agree with every sentiment and conversation you have ever put forth regarding Disney's handling of our beloved Star Wars... However I am getting kinda tired of these sorts of videos, covering internal Disney/Lucas Film drama with information sourced from reputable articles. These people have consistently mishandled Star Wars in so many ways, for sure, but I wish you would make more theory videos, timelines, cover comics, cover lore, instead of these commentary vids... It just feels like, we are all frustrated with the direction of Star Wars atm, so we all click on these vids to see what you have to say- but it's profiting off negative conversation, instead profit off our love for Star Wars and go back to your channel roots a bit more...! From a long time viewer, I hope you're doing well, and I hope you see this comment〜 cheers :)
I feel like this is more like Money Redistribution. They took all that money and gave it to each other. Making all the actors in the show rich. 90% money went to the actors, 10% to the actual show and writing. i mean common.. Lesley put her own girlfriend into the show.. who knows how much money she gave her from the 300 million. probably 50 million. Thats how they get rich. This is basically stealing Money from the Company and basically stealing Money from investors LOL. Imagine youre at a Company and the Company starts a project. You are the leader of the project. You get 10 Million $ to realize the project. You now hire 5 people, pay each of them 1 million, keep 4 million to yourself and invest 1 million into the actual project. This is basically whats happening here.
Honestly, I'm tired that Lesyle's fanboys tries to convince, or better say, fool everyone, with the fact that she understands the universe and this franchise better than George himself, if she is so fan of Star Wars, why didn't she create something like the prequels, with the different worlds, why she kept with the damn forest and beach (I'm tired that all the disney planets are a forest, deserts, beaches) Acotyle have no excuse, Lesyle's series is one of the most expensive, Godzille Minus one was less expensive than The Acoytle and it looked better than this dog shit. Disney is a billionarie company and that is the best they have?This is an insult to George's legacy and the fans. And this not something which is exclusive from the Acoytle, almost all the Star Wars productions have the exact same scenarios. For not mention the lack of presence of aliens, is a galaxy far far away, why we don't have so many aliens? Why all the time with the boring humans?
@@fosterduncan7 Yeah, same. It's likely because they're shooting with that projection screen behind them on sets instead of shooting on location, like Lucas did in the films. At $300 million, you'd think they could afford to do some location shoots.
How can revenge of the Sith with over 20 various CG Locations and planets, dozens of new CG models, many alien Costumes, a peak music Composer, and insanely stunning Effects have less of a budget than this show? Heck, even Ahsoka & Boba Fett look more expensive than acolyte. A waste of budget if you ask me
Tbh we need to put that budget of ROTS in an inflation calculator. Because 200 million back then aren’t 200 million now Edit: after calculation (chat gpt) the budget from ROTS was 178 million in today’s economy.
@@Hugabugahugabuga still, considering the claim of being more expensive than any modern Star Wars show, really doesn’t help it looking half assed for its budget
"I don't know what the heck in that show cost $300 million" I can tell you three things right now: 1. Blatant corruption & money laundering 2. Defamatory campaigns against UA-camrs who criticize their garbage content and fans who refuse to buy it. 3. Bad marketing.
Disney has grown to the point where they no longer care if people like their shows. If people don't like something they make they just blame the audience and move on to the next failing project. They hold the belief that the Disney company is too big to fail so they dick around making insanely over priced slop. Reality will hit them one day as people, even the average member of the public that does not look into what Disney is doing, abandons them because all they make now is crap. If you shovel shit into someone face and tell them it's cake, they will only believe it until someone comes along and actually starts giving them cake.
One thing that Apple seems to understand, and Disney doesn’t, is that throwing an unpopular dud on D+ does damage to the entire D+ image. When people tune in to a tent pole property, on a network they’re paying a monthly subscription for, and the people don’t like it, it calls into question: why they’re paying for that subscription. The more it happens, the more damage it does to the network image.
These shows are the modern art world of Star Wars, no skill needed to make the art, "critics" praising it, and loads of money laundering behind the scenes.
What I really hate about Nu Wars is how everything looks and feels current day. Characters look and speak how we do in 2024, locations look like all you have to do is hop on a boat or plane to go there, nothing feels alien or that it takes place in a galaxy far far away. It’s all so BORING
Ive noticed this in the last 10-15 years, they buy an IP for billions but are to afraid to call back or use anything from said IP (atleast respectfully). They are scared to use the aesthetics that make the IP feel unique so they just create generic fantasy stuff that could slot anywhere into anything. Its even worse with the political agendas being forced. Politics are in every aspect of life but atleast a lot of movies with politics i disagreed with could at the very least provide an enjoyable experience with good and bad being more than obvious. But the addition of the edgier gray areas that seep in, there will be more pushback from the opposing side. And when a majority of the fanbase probably arent in those whacky gray areas, or even oppose them, it leaves the majority feeling abandoned. George Lucas might have seemed like a political activist but considering how much America saw itself as the Rebels and the Communists as the Empire means it clearly went over peoples heads and instead they got an easy to digest story about a resistance vs space nazis, and space magic. And sometimes thats fine, it doesnt need to have a hero thats more evil than the villain in terms of actions and selfish choices. But thats a political choice, because they see any evil as justified if it pushes the narrative loudly. Have a nice day.
The best part of the old ones is when they use real world stuff BECAUSE they change it. For example the DL-44 is a modified Mauser c96 which is a German pistol. Disney just has Kelnacca with a metal detector💀
Imagine if you gave 60 young film makers 5 million each to make some art. I’m sure you would find some real talent better than Harvey Weinsteins former assistant blockhead
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There is decadent, but then there is decadent! Yes, there is a difference.
That $300 million probably doesn’t include tens of millions of fixed overhead at Disney corporate that is charged to the studio as a general expense rather than to the specific project.
One of things that made the Clone Wars feel so special to me was how in the behind the scenes features, they talked about how they frequently referenced the OG trilogy and the Prequel movies. And that dedication to quality showed in the Clone Wars series.
Absolutely. For all its flaws and pretty large quantity of mundane arcs, I believe that what was great about the Clone Wars made it well worth the watch!
I was an investor during the Nelson Peltz attempted hostile take over, earlier this year. He SHOULD have been on the board. He was one of the single biggest share holders and had the backing of the shares of others but there is an IDEOLOGY on the board and in the the investor share holders. This is a political entity now. The people on the board are not shareholders. They don't own the stock. They are friends of Bob Iger. 70% of shareholders voted to keep Nelson Peltz off the board who wanted to start creating change to get Disney profitable again (technically more profitable). EVEN GEORGE LUCAS HIMSELF chose to back the current situation on the board even though he's hated what Kathleen and Bob Iger has done with star wars.... THIS IS IDEOLOGY NOW....NOT STORY TELLING
I'm now starting to feel like the insane budgets Acolyte and related dreck have are in large part cover justifications for where the money went - money that was used to directly bribe anyone who wasn't voting against Peltz's takeover and did not have an ideological reason to do so.
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Almost every production has that putrid miasma of identity politics within it and around it.
A non-star wars related comment, the fallout show's budget was 153 million dollars. The visuals and the story were in my opinion were pretty good, at least for the most part.
Even without any actual money laundering involved, the answer is "corruption", because the show Disney paid for wasn't worth a $230 million budget for the show itself. Gross overpay of people and of contractors can constitute crime in some places... The waste of another $70M on commercials and merchandising wouldn't be a surprise, and par for the course.
Nothing in The Acolyte could justify that kind of budget. It really cost about $20M to $30M and the rest of the money was used as hush money for LH. There is no other logical explanation
Bob Igar has been doing Cost savings measures for the past couple of years for The Disney Company, and they really think they're justified in spending 300 million dollars and getting upset at the fanbase when disney decided to pull the plug, smh.
It's an actual embarrassment to the entire franchise. I didn't think it could get any worse, but it did. It's a disaster. It's actually quite impressive how Disney took a four billion dollar franchise and completely destroyed it seemingly out of spite.
This should be looked into. I’ve said this looks like laundering since the start. Zero shot this cost 300m. Makes me mad how all of our games and shows are ruined. We should be getting peak stuff.
That's a question that their shareholders should be asking. _Especially_ a project set in the High Republic, which they already _knew_ had no audience.
First, where the hell did that money go? Second, that's $230 million, PLUS the marketing (which has already been reported between $50-$100 million). Third, how does KK still have a job?!?
Man, Leslye Headland got her and her people's pockets straight for life under the guise of her being a Star Wars super fan. Some calculted hit and run on her part🤣🤣🤣
"peaking" over the fence... you might mean "peeking" but "peaking" is funny... "Holy crap man, I'm so high right now, oh, God, there's like a thing ..blocking my way"
I had a theory that leslie was spending the star wars money on travel and leisure during production more that the actual production itself. because disney has a weird power imbalance, leslie probably used her sexuality and and gender as leverage.
I saw a documentary about costs and movie production and at times, the fiduciary economics of certain shows and movies are almost criminal and are designed more to line the pockets of those involved with production than the actual production itself. Huge salaries toward the long lists of producers and assistant producers... price gouging by services attached to production (like food, trailers, equipment rentals etc) because they can. It's as bad as the Federal Government at times in terms of oversight and trying to find the best price for the service instead of just using a friend or someone close to the studio head etc.
Don't forget about all the therapists that were required on set for 60% of the cast and crew. They aren't cheap. Wouldn't surprise me if that is where the new total comes from. $180 was spent on the production of the show itself, the rest was spent on coddling.
Just like the game "Concord" - it went up to $400 million because the board/shareholders really thought going all-in on DEI would work. That's why last year Bob Iger said they have to move away from 'messaging'. But, we're going to have to deal with stragglers that had been in development already. I would guess Disney did spend more to un-DEI some aspects (reshoots), which could explain why the show feels disjointed and missing logic.
When it is about spending, it is always useful to keep Godzilla Minus One in mind.... 15 million.... i see your one The Acolyte and i raise you 15 Godzilla Minus One
I have to agree with your theory. I actually enjoyed the Acolyte however the choice to give a budget like that to something unknown instead of Kenobi is just incompetence. Whoever allowed that needs to GOOOO!
Ralph McQuarrie made star wars what it is. He never gets enough credit for taking the original idea of Lucas's simple flash gordon tribute into the unique vision it is today. If the original designs and pitch had been brought to screen, sw would have just been a niche 70s film. Someone should make a documentary just on McQuarrie and his contribution someday
@@OgreJoe I give lucas credit post starwars release and following films but for the first one trying to get it off the ground I think McQuarries work was the transformational key. The original designs and ideas before his work were so flash gordon and retro that had another artist just refined what was there and not innovated the way McQuarrie did, I have no doubt sw would be regarded as a niche throwback film
A New Hope's budget back in 1977 was approximately $11 million. Adjusted for inflation that's around $57 million today. Which goes to show that massive budgets aren't necessary to create a form of Star Wars media that stands the test of time. While filmmaking techniques have evolved since then (in large part *because* of Lucasfilm), Disney really should have aimed for authenticity and competent direction in regards to budgets.
If that's true, it's one of the top 5 most expensive shows ever. Rank 5 rn is "Stranger things" with around 32,6 million per episode, and should the Acolyte cost 250 million or more, it will take this spot. The pacific costs 28.4 million per epsiode, and is number 6, so the acolyte should cost more than that.
Those money laundering skills are crazy
Mobsters would be impressed.
Gotta pay execs 1000x the rate of everyone else
Thanks
😂😂😂😂😂facts!
For real. Where the hell is this money going?
Finance guy here! The board is filled with members that are part of the bigger holders which is held by Vanguard, Blackrock, State Street who own about 20% of the company. assuming they hold a bit more than 20% of the board and still uphold the ESG model. They can have say on who the top executives are, get fired, or who can stay. When you have the stake holders leveraging board room seats while flexing their sell pressure of the stock. It creates a very outside controlled environment with no use for what happens to 1 series or a branch of the business. The main business is the parks admission and concessions it seems and there hasnt been a large decline in visit to the park. Nostalgia sells even with mayhem occurring.
Damn it, I thought I had covered my tracks…
LOL😂
I luv the name bro.
We know it went to you and your wife lol 😂
WHAT THE FUCK
Bro created a Leslye headland account to make fun of her. Respect ..
From what I've been told, Producers take a large cut in the beginning as a safety net if the project fails. Also, I remember Katee Sackhoff stated for season 3 of Mandalorian that the catering costed more than Battlestar Galactica
Up front checks and salaries have increased costs, probably still get bonuses. While everywhere else in the world, bonuses are being taken away, CEO’s and high executives are making more while low income isn’t going up. Budgets everywhere in the world are being blown and mismanaged. It’s insane. People can go to college and let their ambition and projects take over the focus from expenses vs revenue.
@@Fragger_Phrst Silly middle class wagie. You haven't been allowed a raise since 1985.
With a total runtime of 329 minutes, That's $911,854 per MINUTE. Where the fuck was that money going
Basil upgrades cost a shitload...
It’s even more insane when you break it down like that
most likely political figures *cough cough* kamala
I’m not really that good of math, but Jesus Christ! That seems accurate.
When you consider there is a lot of time just wasted on nothing in the show that's just insane.
I’m an illustrator. In the mid 90s I was hired by West End Games to illustrate a book for the Star Wars RPG called “Tapani Instant Adventures.” One of the drawings I was assigned was a portrait of a rodent-like private detective. It had a bit of a film-noir thing going on, so I put the character in a fedora as a nod to that genre. Lucasfilm licensing, who had final approval over everything WEG published, rejected the art saying that “fedoras are too Earth-like. Nothing in Star Wars should directly reference anything in real life.” I had to change the hat (I actually just added a pair of goggles to it, which was enough to satisfy Lucasfilm). I can’t help but wonder if that would still be the case today.
LOL. I totally own that adventure supplement. I think I've run every single adventure in it at least once. :P
@@RglKent Awesome! That was literally my first professional art job. Lucsfilm’s rejection of that piece always comes to mind when I see things like Rebels holding unmodified AK-47s (or whatever they were) in ANDOR. I’m like, old Lucasfilm would have never put up with that. That’s just damned lazy production.
That's a perfect example of how they've lost their way. Lucasfilm used to be so dedicated to every little detail it was extremely rare they would miss anything. Now they just miss stuff on purpose it seems.
@@everwho1 Those guns bugged me too. These movies and TV shows cost so much more.
It looks extremely lazy when Disnified designers create things that look exactly like something on Earth, eg that Star Wars Outlaws companion is just an axolotl.
I played and ran West End Star Wars back in the day, created a massive campaign with locations, spaceships, droids, new TIE variants. Blown away that you did art for their supplements!
The fact this show even came close to Dune 2s budget makes me truly believe there is some sort of criminal activity being hidden.
I wouldn't doubt it. Dune 2 could have had an even smaller budget and still be good because it has competent filmmakers working on it, and great source material to draw from. A bad filmmaker will make a bad film, no matter how much money you give them. They also had great source material to draw from, and still f'ed it up.
I wouldn't be shocked if Leslie headland, Harvey wienstiens personal assistant, was involved in something illegal
It's either massive money laundering or a complete federal government psyop in the Entertainment industry to push identity politics and divide not only the fan base of this franchise but divide them to the core of their beliefs and thus cultivating a weak, divisive and broken civilian population, which is what the Government wants.
It's just Disney's magic.
Magic accountancy.
without question.
These people act as if they purchased a famous and profitable steak house chain, show up wearing "Beef is Murder" t-shirts, change the menu to vegan, and now are complaining that all customers are gone and leaving 1/2 stars!
Loved that! I can now leave the PC and go to bed with a genuine smile (after a stressful day of study).
LOL! How deeply stupid are these left-wing activists???
At least Ruth’s Chris steakhouse is good. Maybe overpriced, but not bad.
Even as a vegetarian I have to agree with that, is good to have alternatives, but don't change your entire aesthetic and what you're known for.
Pior, né? Dá uma baita raiva!
Perfect analogy.
For reference, the Lord of the Rings trilogy cost $281million
And made around $3 billion total, if I remember correctly.
That doesn't take into account inflation, though. Saying that the budget for each movie with inflation was probably the same as Dune 2...and they made billions from that franchise. Shows how bad the Acolyte did
Fuck Disney and Lucasfilms
And I never get tired of watching those amazing films
And The Lord of the Rings is the greatest cinematic masterpiece ever created.
TIME FOR AN AUDIT
The accountants are on the payroll too
Yeah i was wondering if making one of their "tax writeoff" projects successful would screw them over. Like the movie the producers.
It’s even higher now? That’s insane, what were Disney and Lucasfilm thinking?!?
I don't think they were
Those women sitting in lucasfilms must have dirt on george lucas or disney execs. Cause no way
Money laundering 🤑🤑🤑
its money laundering
Has to be a money/tax scheme..
As someone who is a Cast Member at Disney, the super frustrating thing is that we've had multiple rounds of lay-offs since this show, most recently two days ago, even more people cut. And now it makes sense. The awful thing is that the regular employees pay with their jobs, the ability to pay for their families, due to the REPEATED mistakes of the seven to eight figure-salaried executives at the top who are NEVER touched. There is zero accountability for the bosses greenlighting these disasters, yet, $30/hour people are cut. I still believe in what Disney can be again, that's why I'm still there but we have got to stop this sandbox mentality of "just play with $300 million and see what happens," like with The Marvels being around $280 million. Keep in mind... the recent WWI EPIC film, "All Quiet on the Western Front," with huge battle scenes, cost $20 million. That's not a typo.
I start to think that KK has lost the key to the money vault. That is I believe why Bob Iger did come in and canceled any future plan
Lost? She never had it to begin with. A wax copy isn't a real key.
Keep coping more I guess…
@@dukeofgotham4311Go meat ride Disney somewhere else
Why is she still in charge?
@@quanhair5023the Enemy isn’t done destroying our beloved franchises yet! However, to think what’s next bless VEXCES me!!!🤦🏼♂️
We're seeing a pattern of skyrocketing budgets when scifi/fantasy/superhero projects are given to showrunners or film directors who have little experience and/or have never worked with CGI before. She Hulk, Rings of Power, The Acolyte, The Marvels, etc etc. 2 years ago a CGI worker for the MCU even spoke out about this, saying that these kinds of filmmakers don't know how to articulate or visualize what kind of fx they want, and so the result is often not what they wanted and the CGI teams have to start over again. He said this has led to production delays and inflated budgets. Yet the studios continue to not learn their lesson.
180 million 💰
230 million 💰💰
300 million 💰💰💰
EVERYONE AT DISNEY NEEDS TO BE FIRED. FROM BOB IGER TO THE JANITOR. CLEAN HOUSE!!!
Won't happen
Janitor really? Someone has to be doing the cleaning to clean house…
The janitors might be the only people there doing their jobs, let’s not be too hasty.
My uncle is a janitor. "NOOOOO!"
Call fumigation!
Hi Theory, long time silent fan here, I watch all your vids, joined (almost) all your watch parties... And I agree with every sentiment and conversation you have ever put forth regarding Disney's handling of our beloved Star Wars... However I am getting kinda tired of these sorts of videos, covering internal Disney/Lucas Film drama with information sourced from reputable articles. These people have consistently mishandled Star Wars in so many ways, for sure, but I wish you would make more theory videos, timelines, cover comics, cover lore, instead of these commentary vids... It just feels like, we are all frustrated with the direction of Star Wars atm, so we all click on these vids to see what you have to say- but it's profiting off negative conversation, instead profit off our love for Star Wars and go back to your channel roots a bit more...! From a long time viewer, I hope you're doing well, and I hope you see this comment〜 cheers :)
The people she needed to pay off were expensive.
You mean china?
The Acolyte was like a Star wars daytime tv series
Money Laundering: A Star Wars Story
Kinda like Regurgitated Crap: A Star Wars Theory Hate-bait Video
@@JoeVulgamoreAuthor You're salty because you worked on the show. We get it.
I feel like this is more like Money Redistribution. They took all that money and gave it to each other. Making all the actors in the show rich. 90% money went to the actors, 10% to the actual show and writing. i mean common.. Lesley put her own girlfriend into the show.. who knows how much money she gave her from the 300 million. probably 50 million. Thats how they get rich.
This is basically stealing Money from the Company and basically stealing Money from investors LOL.
Imagine youre at a Company and the Company starts a project. You are the leader of the project. You get 10 Million $ to realize the project. You now hire 5 people, pay each of them 1 million, keep 4 million to yourself and invest 1 million into the actual project. This is basically whats happening here.
@@JoeVulgamoreAuthorit’s like people like you are fine with Star Wars going to shit😂😂😂😂
Honestly, I'm tired that Lesyle's fanboys tries to convince, or better say, fool everyone, with the fact that she understands the universe and this franchise better than George himself, if she is so fan of Star Wars, why didn't she create something like the prequels, with the different worlds, why she kept with the damn forest and beach (I'm tired that all the disney planets are a forest, deserts, beaches) Acotyle have no excuse, Lesyle's series is one of the most expensive, Godzille Minus one was less expensive than The Acoytle and it looked better than this dog shit. Disney is a billionarie company and that is the best they have?This is an insult to George's legacy and the fans. And this not something which is exclusive from the Acoytle, almost all the Star Wars productions have the exact same scenarios. For not mention the lack of presence of aliens, is a galaxy far far away, why we don't have so many aliens? Why all the time with the boring humans?
They absolutely need to audit that.
0:21 Fulfill my laundering
Cause the modern woman is against laundry or any house work. Including cooking to feed her own self.
Leslie might have some Diddy tapes to hold the board hostage
That means The Acolyte cost more than every Star Wars film other than The Last Jedi...that is insane...
As much as I hated TLJ, it at least LOOKED good.
That's crazy. I would've thought they would've given money to Kenobi.
It looked cheap. It FREAKING LOOKED CHEAP!!! Even crap like Kenobi looked better.
I’m tired of the cheap studio Disney channel look that all these shows have now.
@@fosterduncan7 Yeah, same. It's likely because they're shooting with that projection screen behind them on sets instead of shooting on location, like Lucas did in the films. At $300 million, you'd think they could afford to do some location shoots.
Kenobi was good, if didn't count episode 6. Its pointless.
"Even crap like Kenobi" is a wild reality.
@@ВасилийИванов-ю3юepisode 6 was the best episode!
That's enough credits to rebuild the Jedi Temple.
Republic credits or
Imperial credits?
@@CHOSEN_SITH Probably Republic: Palpatine charges to much tax.
@@Formula577
Lololol 🤣😂
@@Formula577
Lololol 🤣😂
We could probably rebuild the temple and still have just enough to build a third death star
How can revenge of the Sith with over 20 various CG Locations and planets, dozens of new CG models, many alien Costumes, a peak music Composer, and insanely stunning Effects have less of a budget than this show?
Heck, even Ahsoka & Boba Fett look more expensive than acolyte.
A waste of budget if you ask me
Acolyte looked like one of those cheaply put together plays you see in schools compared to like you said the stunning effects and visuals of ROTS
Tbh we need to put that budget of ROTS in an inflation calculator. Because 200 million back then aren’t 200 million now
Edit: after calculation (chat gpt) the budget from ROTS was 178 million in today’s economy.
@@Hugabugahugabuga still, considering the claim of being more expensive than any modern Star Wars show, really doesn’t help it looking half assed for its budget
That’s not how inflation works. It cost 167 million and would be around 320 million today. Wtf does chat gpt think inflation is
Why did you use ai instead of just looking up the inflation and doing a super simple calculation? @@Hugabugahugabuga
I can't believe it... The Acolyte is the Food Fight of the Star Wars franchise..
"I don't know what the heck in that show cost $300 million"
I can tell you three things right now:
1. Blatant corruption & money laundering
2. Defamatory campaigns against UA-camrs who criticize their garbage content and fans who refuse to buy it.
3. Bad marketing.
I don't think this budget includes marketing.
@@beskamir5977 I promise you Disney paid off all those actors, actresses and journalists to promote this garbage. That's where the budget went
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Disney has grown to the point where they no longer care if people like their shows. If people don't like something they make they just blame the audience and move on to the next failing project. They hold the belief that the Disney company is too big to fail so they dick around making insanely over priced slop. Reality will hit them one day as people, even the average member of the public that does not look into what Disney is doing, abandons them because all they make now is crap. If you shovel shit into someone face and tell them it's cake, they will only believe it until someone comes along and actually starts giving them cake.
Does the money to pay for the hit pieces come out of the marketing budget?
One thing that Apple seems to understand, and Disney doesn’t, is that throwing an unpopular dud on D+ does damage to the entire D+ image. When people tune in to a tent pole property, on a network they’re paying a monthly subscription for, and the people don’t like it, it calls into question: why they’re paying for that subscription. The more it happens, the more damage it does to the network image.
Was that mega woke Jen Anniston Apple show about her being an SJW reporter very popular then..?
Bob, Mr Iger, sir... Get your head out of your f--king ass and take heed of this comment.
These shows are the modern art world of Star Wars, no skill needed to make the art, "critics" praising it, and loads of money laundering behind the scenes.
Where tf did all that money go towards???
Those missing children and powdered donuts.
What I really hate about Nu Wars is how everything looks and feels current day. Characters look and speak how we do in 2024, locations look like all you have to do is hop on a boat or plane to go there, nothing feels alien or that it takes place in a galaxy far far away. It’s all so BORING
Exactly, it doesn't feel like Star Wars at all. It looks and feels like a generic space fantasy story.
Ive noticed this in the last 10-15 years, they buy an IP for billions but are to afraid to call back or use anything from said IP (atleast respectfully). They are scared to use the aesthetics that make the IP feel unique so they just create generic fantasy stuff that could slot anywhere into anything. Its even worse with the political agendas being forced. Politics are in every aspect of life but atleast a lot of movies with politics i disagreed with could at the very least provide an enjoyable experience with good and bad being more than obvious. But the addition of the edgier gray areas that seep in, there will be more pushback from the opposing side. And when a majority of the fanbase probably arent in those whacky gray areas, or even oppose them, it leaves the majority feeling abandoned. George Lucas might have seemed like a political activist but considering how much America saw itself as the Rebels and the Communists as the Empire means it clearly went over peoples heads and instead they got an easy to digest story about a resistance vs space nazis, and space magic. And sometimes thats fine, it doesnt need to have a hero thats more evil than the villain in terms of actions and selfish choices. But thats a political choice, because they see any evil as justified if it pushes the narrative loudly. Have a nice day.
Kinda like how Nu Trek looks super Apple Sleek tech versus the old boxy retro vibe
I think that's why the Jedi games (Fallen Order and Survivor) still have that 'galaxy far, far away feeling.' I love those games.
But just wait until you see jarjar throw some Hawk Tua on there..!
The best part of the old ones is when they use real world stuff BECAUSE they change it. For example the DL-44 is a modified Mauser c96 which is a German pistol. Disney just has Kelnacca with a metal detector💀
One guy runs past the camera with an ice cream maker.
$300M, and that was the best that Headland and Disney could come up with. How hilariously pathetic. 🤦🏻♂️
What? It was soooo amazing it made KK cry 😂😂😂
@@mikeabbaticchio5754ya know you're right, KK is the quintessential star wars fan, she knows best after all 😂
Imagine if you gave 60 young film makers 5 million each to make some art. I’m sure you would find some real talent better than Harvey Weinsteins former assistant blockhead
There is decadent, but then there is decadent! Yes, there is a difference.
LOL!!! Your face on the thumb bro! LOL!!! That was great.
KK: It's Not About Money, It's About Sending A Message. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
And the message is : "we're burning all the money !"
It’s about sending THE MESSAGE.
@@Jadty The Meeeessage🤣
Could you imagine if they threw 300 million at the Ahsoka series season 2. .. just go crazy with the mortis story and anakin Ahsoka flashbacks
Could get a massive clone wars battle flashback without needing the smoke screen.
"It's not controversial, it was shit" absoulte perfect summary of the Acolyte 😂😂😂😂
That $300 million probably doesn’t include tens of millions of fixed overhead at Disney corporate that is charged to the studio as a general expense rather than to the specific project.
I’m sure Amandla was paid more than Ewan as well to show that they don’t “discriminate” against coloured women
Probably not
Kathleen had to pay her extra for reparations
the people attacking you is what brought you a new subscriber. Keep on keeping on
One of things that made the Clone Wars feel so special to me was how in the behind the scenes features, they talked about how they frequently referenced the OG trilogy and the Prequel movies. And that dedication to quality showed in the Clone Wars series.
Absolutely. For all its flaws and pretty large quantity of mundane arcs, I believe that what was great about the Clone Wars made it well worth the watch!
i have started to look forward to seeing this guy post about star wars. entertaining the way he deconstructs their bullshit in a respectful manner
I was an investor during the Nelson Peltz attempted hostile take over, earlier this year. He SHOULD have been on the board. He was one of the single biggest share holders and had the backing of the shares of others but there is an IDEOLOGY on the board and in the the investor share holders. This is a political entity now. The people on the board are not shareholders. They don't own the stock. They are friends of Bob Iger. 70% of shareholders voted to keep Nelson Peltz off the board who wanted to start creating change to get Disney profitable again (technically more profitable). EVEN GEORGE LUCAS HIMSELF chose to back the current situation on the board even though he's hated what Kathleen and Bob Iger has done with star wars....
THIS IS IDEOLOGY NOW....NOT STORY TELLING
I'm now starting to feel like the insane budgets Acolyte and related dreck have are in large part cover justifications for where the money went - money that was used to directly bribe anyone who wasn't voting against Peltz's takeover and did not have an ideological reason to do so.
Almost every production has that putrid miasma of identity politics within it and around it.
A non-star wars related comment, the fallout show's budget was 153 million dollars.
The visuals and the story were in my opinion were pretty good, at least for the most part.
Even without any actual money laundering involved, the answer is "corruption", because the show Disney paid for wasn't worth a $230 million budget for the show itself. Gross overpay of people and of contractors can constitute crime in some places...
The waste of another $70M on commercials and merchandising wouldn't be a surprise, and par for the course.
Nothing in The Acolyte could justify that kind of budget. It really cost about $20M to $30M and the rest of the money was used as hush money for LH.
There is no other logical explanation
"Smells like orc mischief to me"
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Bob Igar has been doing Cost savings measures for the past couple of years for The Disney Company, and they really think they're justified in spending 300 million dollars and getting upset at the fanbase when disney decided to pull the plug, smh.
Never forget one of the interview talked about the wookie jedi having to be cut cause "BUDGET" yet nothing of this show even suggest any money spent
You're telling me they spent the MSRP of 50 HIMARS units on this shlock...
THE POWER OF ONE (season)
It's an actual embarrassment to the entire franchise. I didn't think it could get any worse, but it did.
It's a disaster.
It's actually quite impressive how Disney took a four billion dollar franchise and completely destroyed it seemingly out of spite.
How do you make a million dollar franchise?
Give a billion dollar franchise to Lucasfilms.
This should be looked into. I’ve said this looks like laundering since the start. Zero shot this cost 300m. Makes me mad how all of our games and shows are ruined. We should be getting peak stuff.
*peak
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6:08 yeah just putting a purplish filter on a forest doesn’t make it look like it’s from another planet
Disney: cooking the books harder than Capone.
They had iridium in their hands, but, they only saw the platform and customer base they bought. KK and her ilk simply didn't care for George's vision.
There are plenty of people embezzling.
Question: How do you spell money laundering? Answer: The Acolyte
Why would Disney green light any single project for $300M? As a shareholder, I’m pissed!!!!!!!!!
The production budget of Snow White is around 500m currently. This is what Disney does.
Andor was 250 mil
Their shareholders should sue them
Quite a few more projects are worth that or more, and some have even been profitable. Look at RoI.
That's a question that their shareholders should be asking. _Especially_ a project set in the High Republic, which they already _knew_ had no audience.
Does Kathleen Kennedy have a blackmail folder? Why is she still at the helm?
Ah the true reason why disney wanted everyone to like it. Cost dem moneys.
"They made Godzilla Minus One....WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!"
"YEA WELL WE ARENT GODZILLA MINUS ONE!"
First, where the hell did that money go? Second, that's $230 million, PLUS the marketing (which has already been reported between $50-$100 million). Third, how does KK still have a job?!?
Man, Leslye Headland got her and her people's pockets straight for life under the guise of her being a Star Wars super fan. Some calculted hit and run on her part🤣🤣🤣
Sith Lord level money-laundering.
Drug dealers peaking over the fence, "Ayo, lemme get in on this "movie production" scheme."
"peaking" over the fence...
you might mean "peeking" but "peaking" is funny... "Holy crap man, I'm so high right now, oh, God, there's like a thing ..blocking my way"
Thank you for your honesty and for never pulling click bait or exaggerating for views. This is rare on UA-cam these days.
Audit the Acolyte
I had a theory that leslie was spending the star wars money on travel and leisure during production more that the actual production itself. because disney has a weird power imbalance, leslie probably used her sexuality and and gender as leverage.
Who took all that money is the big question here.
Headland needs that sweet hush money, she kept those receipts!
That "nah I'll skip it" mentality is going on with MCU films too.
I saw a documentary about costs and movie production and at times, the fiduciary economics of certain shows and movies are almost criminal and are designed more to line the pockets of those involved with production than the actual production itself. Huge salaries toward the long lists of producers and assistant producers... price gouging by services attached to production (like food, trailers, equipment rentals etc) because they can. It's as bad as the Federal Government at times in terms of oversight and trying to find the best price for the service instead of just using a friend or someone close to the studio head etc.
Don't forget about all the therapists that were required on set for 60% of the cast and crew. They aren't cheap. Wouldn't surprise me if that is where the new total comes from. $180 was spent on the production of the show itself, the rest was spent on coddling.
Just like the game "Concord" - it went up to $400 million because the board/shareholders really thought going all-in on DEI would work. That's why last year Bob Iger said they have to move away from 'messaging'. But, we're going to have to deal with stragglers that had been in development already. I would guess Disney did spend more to un-DEI some aspects (reshoots), which could explain why the show feels disjointed and missing logic.
Dude, you need to pivot to making a "Young Palpatine" series as a parody mashup of "Young Sheldon" and probably "Dexter" or "Breaking Bad".
That is truly suspicious as hell.
When it is about spending, it is always useful to keep Godzilla Minus One in mind.... 15 million....
i see your one The Acolyte and i raise you 15 Godzilla Minus One
Im convinced this is money laundering scheme. Seriously, where did all the money go?
It’s called money laundering.
Well it proves that money doesn't ensure quality
Not when it’s being laundered
Greatly improved the life quality of the people profiting from this money laundering.
The money laundering is strong with this one.
The laundering is strong with this one 🤣
Where is the MONEY, Lesley?! It looked so CHEAP! 😡
I have to agree with your theory. I actually enjoyed the Acolyte however the choice to give a budget like that to something unknown instead of Kenobi is just incompetence. Whoever allowed that needs to GOOOO!
Wtf where did they use that money? No way they spent all of that on the show it looks like it was a 50mil show
Yoda charges a lot for cameos
The Star Wars that I fell in love with is gone
Such a great point, Star Wars really did feel like a story from a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. It doesn't anymore, they've lost that.
To write the script, Leslye needed new glasses, which explains the budget size.
Ralph McQuarrie made star wars what it is. He never gets enough credit for taking the original idea of Lucas's simple flash gordon tribute into the unique vision it is today. If the original designs and pitch had been brought to screen, sw would have just been a niche 70s film. Someone should make a documentary just on McQuarrie and his contribution someday
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You're not wrong about his contributions, but at the same time I think you're not giving Lucas enough credit
@@OgreJoe I give lucas credit post starwars release and following films but for the first one trying to get it off the ground I think McQuarries work was the transformational key. The original designs and ideas before his work were so flash gordon and retro that had another artist just refined what was there and not innovated the way McQuarrie did, I have no doubt sw would be regarded as a niche throwback film
Agreed.
@@MK-mz3jv Also don't forget all the others like Joe Johnston or Colin Cantwell. :D
A New Hope's budget back in 1977 was approximately $11 million. Adjusted for inflation that's around $57 million today.
Which goes to show that massive budgets aren't necessary to create a form of Star Wars media that stands the test of time. While filmmaking techniques have evolved since then (in large part *because* of Lucasfilm), Disney really should have aimed for authenticity and competent direction in regards to budgets.
Money laundering
Embezzlement and money laundering masterclass.
If that's true, it's one of the top 5 most expensive shows ever. Rank 5 rn is "Stranger things" with around 32,6 million per episode, and should the Acolyte cost 250 million or more, it will take this spot. The pacific costs 28.4 million per epsiode, and is number 6, so the acolyte should cost more than that.
I love to see risks being taken for big franchises to create something new, but not when the reins are given to non-fans.
i dont know why its so satisfying but i watch this vids about acolyte and just put Succession Main Theme in background
But guys these sith grew up in a middle class family!