The Acolyte Season One - re:View
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- What is a Star War™? The better question is what has it become? Ages ago it was a film made by a California hippie named Georgie who loved race cars and worried about an authoritarian future taking away his race cars. Now that he is old and lives in an authoritarian future that has taken away his race cars, he sold the evil empire he created to a different evil empire. The modest kid from Modesto just wanted to tell a tale of a farm boy who goes on an adventure with a space wizard to save a princess… and it ended up ruining his life and the lives of so many others. After Star War was a hit, he made Empire Strikes Back. It was so awesome because other people made it for him. Then he was so mad he crashed his golf cart into a lake. For the third film, he hired a former circus clown named Richard whom he could boss around and yell, “Add more midgets!” and thus the original trilogy was borned. Several years and pant sizes later, Georgie made the prequels. Fueled by ego and blue screens, G.L. made three films that were met with a luke-warm reception (pun intended). While the films made cash, G.L. wasn’t really and truly happy. He complained and complained to Oprah and Charlie Rose about white slavers and nightmares where Ewoks would pee in his salad. He eventually found a new love: washing his flannel shirts and producing terrible films. Several books and video games later, George was so bored he sold the Star War to Disney (a company known for their porno and children’s meat pies) and would regret this decision all the days till his grave. He could have chosen Universal, Warner Brothers, hell even Orion, A24 or Gravitas Ventures , but the only company big enough to shell out that kind of cash was Disney. After all, 4 billion is a lot to dig out of the couch cushions. Imagine though, the blue jeans and flannel shirt wearing man who claimed to be the indie rebel selling Star War to a smaller company like an A24? Or Dimension films, or something like that. Sell it for a discount to show how much he cares. He's got enough cash right? Or does he need 4B to finally producer his smaller films? Anyway, selling to a smaller production company of a quality nature, that’d be like winning the lottery for them. Make a good first film and rake in the cash. Restrict them and force out the quality. Force them to have a smart plan of what to do with a Star War. With Walt Disney’s company, they went the quantity over quality route. And filling the troughs of streaming content didn’t help. Forced to have a buffet of Star War content available to subscribers, no care or forethought was placed into a plan or a long term story or connectivity, etc. They certainly didn’t plan it all out like Marvel. They went at it like RDJ at a snowman made of cocaine. Thus a mess was created. Then KK emerged as the queen of Star War, pointing and yelling at the kids in the writers rooms. Make this. Make that! MAKE IT FAST YOU CLOWNS. Every day a new movie or cartoon was in production. The wheels began to spin faster than a cuckoo clock. The drool spilled as movies began to emerge from the anus of Disney at a diarrhea-like pace. An army with no general. A war without a goal. Like the everlasting gobstoppers being churned out of Wonka’s silly contraption, the Star War Disney products began to come out like old butt plugs from Andy Dick's insides. But who were they made for? Star Wars Man? Kids? My dead grandma? People waiting to board a plane at the airport? Some content was good. Most was bad. All the actors smiled and pretended to love a Star War. “I watched it as a kid and always dreamed of this shit” they’d say. Lies. They just glad to be working and cashing checks. Directors lie and say “This was my dream to make to Star War pie and play in a playground of my dreams. I’d rather make a Star War than a real movie with artistic nature” what a lie. They like the checks. The Disney/Star War gatherings where the crowds wave lightsabers around and clap like animals at a political rally further ensures the Disney dominance of power over this once beloved story. It’s more machine now, twisted and evil. What comes of the Acolyte? What is it? Is it a secret story about how the gays are harassed by the religious cops? Is it a story about sisters who go different ways and then decided they were both on the wrong path but can't decide what clothes to wear and to keep the same haircut their whole lives? When does someone save the galaxy? I just learned today that Billy Mays has died and the Sham-Wow guy was arrested. Do all of our heroes fail us eventually? Yes. Even rebels from Modesto become the Emperor someday.
I'm proud of Rich for doing the right thing for his country by dropping out of the Acolyte discussions. That last Star Wars debate really revealed his diminishing mental state.
It's good to see a younger chap take his place.
@@jackwilson8700 "The Acolyte represents what Star Wars can be, unburdened by what it has been" - Jay
Vote Evans Stoloska 2024!
@@MrTkillianby that he means a lobotomized franchise that doesn’t give a shit about the creator’s philosophy in this narrative.
Is Rich Evans the new Joe Biden?
“I called Rich, and he refused. He hung up on me actually.”
😂😂😂😂
Can you blame him?
It could have been an accident. Rich has just recently learned how to use landline phones.
Rich's phone is probably a landline that is shaped like a lady bug or a racecar or something
Refusal of the call, another step on his hero's journey.
Rich Evans: American Hero
Mike just can't let go of Dexter Jexter and his 1950s space diner.
The thing is, Obi-Wan having a friend outside of work that he can go to for esoteric information adds a lot to him as a character. That scene is one of the best in that movie lol
neither can I quite frankly.
You want some Jawa juice?
@@ioncewasmikey Depends, is it juice Jawas make or do they make it by juicing Jawas? You know what, never mind. It doesn't matter. Give me some death sticks.
@@ioncewasmikeyoh yes, thank you! :)
Rich sitting in the next room with a Farscape poster on the wall. His excitement slowly dying as he realizes Mike isn't coming and is in fact talking Star Wars with Jay.
Frell...
Mike has been kicked in the mivocks so many time with the recent SW fare, i think anything as good as Farscape would shock his system.
I've been meaning to watch Farscape. is it worth diving into?
@@bmuller7471Yes. I unfortunately never saw all of it while it was on, but what I saw was largely enjoyable and presumably would overall still hold up today. A quick check shows that _Farscape_ also surprisingly seems to be on a large amount of streaming things right now, including Peacock and Amazon Prime and even freer things like Tubi. Huh.
@@bmuller7471 do you like crazy wacky aliens in a deep sci-fi with complex multifaceted characters?
Then yes, it is definitely worth getting into it.
It is one of the best sci-fi shows ever done.
I do remember that disturbing scene in "Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom" where the Duke walks in to the middle of the room and forces the young girl to crawl over and watch Season One of The Acolyte. It's the kind of scene you don't forget.
Honestly, I’ve never recovered from that. Don’t think anything will get under my skin like that ever again
😂😂😂
I'd like to see Mike sing like the Duke.
Up close.
I actually laughed so hard at this I shed a tear, lmao.
I would rather wait for dinner than watch the acolyte again.
Adjusted for inflation, season 1 of the Acolyte cost more to make than all 110 episodes, 5 seasons of Babylon 5.
Thank you!!! I'm sure I made this point somewhere else.
I think you could have 5 full seasons of TNG too (1.6m per episode in 90s money) for that money.
which do you think was more profitable?
Who are you? What do you want?
Also significantly more than the uncrewed Odysseus moon landing mission.
And they could have made a few more seasons of Crusade which was the spin off/follow up that started out very slow and set the stage in season 1 like B5 but they never managed to actually explain anything unlike B5 since it got cancelled.
Mike's final pitch for making Star Wars into Jedi Star Trek sounds eerily like the Knights of the Old Republic games. Almost like Bioware and Obsidian figured this out 20 years ago and no one has replicated it since.
Which funny because they took two completely contradictory approaches. Bioware took the Hero with a thousand faces, knowing how much it impacted Lucas, and converted all its tropes into a game format.
Obsidian saw this, and told a story that subverts the heros journey in every way they could while still telling a cogent story
@@nikolaastCheck out Noah Caldwell-Gervais’s critique of the games if you’re interested in more. IMO he’s the best in the business for treating critique as legitimate literary analysis and not just level-by-level nitpicks.
And I hope they never do. KoToR doesn't deserve to be vandalized.
@@JK-cd6zr Chris avellone is a hack
I’ve said since 2012 it’s so weird that they haven’t even touched the Old Republic era. I keep waiting for them to announce something big with it but still seems to this day they have no plans for anything Old Republic
Mike apologizing to Star Wars Theory and referring to him as “Star Wars Man” is just perfect
If he apologizes to George Lucas, I might actually forgive him for Space Cop.
Star Wars Theory couldn't take the joke either
@@Misguided97 Hey now, there's starving children in Africa.
Star Wars man is a loser anyway.
I watched the first few minutes of a Star Wars Man video. Extremely cringe content and the guy has a very punchable face too.
Mike and Jay used Space Lesbian Witch powers to create Rich Evans
Why the Space Lesbian Witches when they can use a croning ceremony with the Wise Woman?
It all makes sense
The power of 1, the power of 2, the power of...AAAIIIDDDSSS
Susan.
The power of Maaaany!
At this point, Mike has thought more about Star Wars than the people who actually write these shows.
To be fairs, that has been the case since the Phantom Menace.
Some people do crosswords
But doesn't know Jedi's build a lightsaber as part of their training or why they would continue to carry them even without sith around xD
@@tactfulrogue he's not fanatical about it. He's said plenty of times including in the plinket reviews that he does not read E.U books or play the games.
@@josephpeters2619 people keep saying this about the show that's introduced more EU stuff than any other mainline series or movie.
Remembering the name of Jettster Dexter, while not caring about Start Wars is such a Jay thing.
I'm surprised Mike forgot after harping on him in the Plinkett review. Its such a succinct criticism of the prequels mishandling of the universe.
Never understood why an alien from long ago in a galaxy far away would have a 1950s style Diner@@RadiantViper
Everyone remembers Jexter Dettster!
That's just part of Jay's job of having to remember Mike's life for him.
U talk like a ag
Mr. Plinkett apologising to a Prequel fan is probably the craziest thing that has happened within the Acolyte controversy
it's fine if RLM doesn't like the prequels. But RLM just doesn't understand the prequels or doesn't want to understand the prequels.
@@trueblade3636What’s there to understand? They’re shit movies, simple as that.
@@fissilewhistle They're shit in many ways but they're at least cohesive. The new trilogy was like 3 separate movies cosplaying a trilogy.
@@TheBobes Both are shit anyway. I'm still not sure whether the prequels or the sequels actually did the more damage to Star Wars.
Sure the sequels robbed the old gang of their victory and heroism.
But the prequels are the ones who
- made the jedi knight into boring and stupid sexless priest-cops.
- robbed the force of its mystery
- cheapened the arc of Anakin Skywalker by transforming what should have been a greek tragedy into a hormone-filled teenage hissy fit
- Reduce the possibility for good antagonists through the rule of two
@@trueblade3636 What if you didn't understand or don't want to understand why Mr.Plinkett doesn't like the Prequels. Is 90 minutes version not enough of an argument? Or do you want Mauler style videos?
"So Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb"
Yoda is now officially the worst Jedi leader in history: under his watch we have the Brindock Massacre, Brindock cover up, the Jedi Priest Sol - OSHA grooming scandal, the Khofar massacre, rise of Anakin Skywalker Darth Vader, the great Anakin Youngling Massacre , Order 66, and the genocide of the entire Jedi order.
He's gone from funny little hermit to Henry Kissinger
@@BackdoorBarnyardwell to be fair his relationship with that twink was after his organization collapsed. So I guess it was after he retired
War not make one great, and proved it he has.
Ah yes. Anakin and his youngling massacre moves
Honestly he still is the worst even if the events of this show didnt happen.
This is just an hour of Mike trying to convince Jay to watch Andor
A worthwhile investment of time for once. Rich is eating starving children in Africa, plus he's already seen it I guess
Andor was great❤
Fair enough tbh, Andor is the only "Star War" worth watching since Disney bought it.
Do it Jay..
And so should everyone who has been disappointed by the other Star Wars stories. Andor takes the universe of Star Wars seriously and not just an opportunity to market toys that nobody wants to buy.
We’re in a bizarre timeline when I find people reviewing movies/shows more entertaining than watching the actual movie/show.
Late Capitalism: Consume Product and Get Excited for Next Product.
Reviewers are a reprieve from being endlessly beaten and berated by the studios and their hostile media machines.
@@c.andrew3944 theirs no such thing as late stage capitalism
Well it's like how back in the day people who gawk and laugh at the village idiot stumbling to fill a bucket if water.
The acolyte is the 21st century equivalent to that.
Especially when they feel forced to play a game of dance around the agenda turd so they don't offend their friends. It's eerily similar to the people who pretended Biden wasn't senile before they all decided to jump ship at the same time.
Rich Evans was probably The Acolyte all along.
The real Acolyte were the friends we made along the way!
No wayy, all jokes aside Rich Evans is actually (and ironically completely unironically) a 1000 times better and more believable as an actor than anyone in the Acolyte is
@@BackdoorBarnyardGOD DAMN IT YOU BEAT ME TO IT
BRAAAAAIIIIDDDSSS!
*Plagueis.
Skulks in the shadows. Creepy appearance. Lives in a cave. Basically a 1 to 1 match.
The "just stop watching" is something I did with Star Wars years ago. I accepted that the thing I loved was gone and I'm happier for it. You don't need to put so much emotional energy into something you can never change. I still have my great memories and I can always go back and visit those parts I enjoyed so much
It took me years to comprehend what had happened but I've accepted it, and now I'm a "cafeteria" Star Wars fan - I pick and choose the parts I like, but I don't need it to be something it isn't.
The franchise was always okay. Personally I never really liked it.
Having watched anything past revenge of the sith. Same for doctor who, watched the first series when it got revived then forgot it exists past the 90s
SW going to hell is what got me into other sci-fi
Same. Haven't even finished Mando season 1 despite liking the episodes I did watch. I just can't care about this series anymore.
"How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?"
It feels great.
Yeah, reached acceptance a while ago. Now it's completely irrelevant. I don't care anymore.
Probably the first time in history that this happens. It sucks to be geriatric gen-exers now, in this particular instance
I'd feel worse if I didn't have a whole century of unexplored pop culture to fall back on
@@Dr170 Amen! I recently discovered 1960s Italian Gothic Horror flicks right here on UA-cam. Man, some of them are awesome.
The most amazing thing I learned from this is that Alex Kurtzman is for some reason being allowed within 500ft of the Star Trek franchise.
He's Kathleen Kennedy's acolyte at Paramountain.
What?
I can't believe Jay watched The Acolyte before Andor. That is the true Tragedy of Darth Plaguis
I haven’t seen Andor yet either.
@@steveleeart Do yourself a favor and check it out. It's not just good Star Wars (if you like world building, not lightsaber flashiness) but also a good show on its own
Is it really? Wouldn't he be a happier person as a result of that because he gets to cleanse his pallet with something good?
@@steveleeart but it's their JOB. They made a career out of reviewing movies and shows and notoriously hated the prequels for decades so far so hey defended obiwan and this crap over that. The least they could do is watch the show before yapping about stuff they are too old to comprehend.
@@PmNHawkeOnly jay hadn't watched andor, mike and rich already did and had a review of it up already, hes not really obligated to watch the same shows if mike and rich already did a review of it lmao
Can’t believe it took $180 million to completely wipe Rich Evans’s brain of The Acolyte
I can't believe they spent over an hour talking about this turd in robes. I'm almost tempted to watch it just to make fun of it... almost.
I know, right? What a bargain!
Especially since we know it would have been much cheaper to just make him watch it again in reverse!
Does money mean anything to him now he knows how to guess lottery numbers?
it costs 10 cents the rest was the tip.
Mike giving Rich that poison after his 10 year vow of silence was a nice gesture
Rich Evans has reached the point in his career where he's realized he can tell the boss to piss off, and the boss can't do anything about it because he's far too important to the enterprise.
I like this for him.
That korean man is an excellent actor. He can't even speak the language and he emotes more than the rest of the cast combined.
Star Games? Squid Wars?
@@JoeJosJourneyOctupus Competiton.
Yeah I stuck with it for him.
His name is Lee Jung Jae.
If you haven’t watched Squid Game, he’s the lead in that and he gives one of the best performances by a lead male actor I’ve ever seen. And he is WAY too good for this show.
In before we see him in every other show ala Pedro Pascal.
I always thought the little teeth looked like a zipper, so I called him Darth Gimp
that's too funny and I refuse to unsee it
Smile Ren?
Kneel... Darth Gimpie.
@@BurgermanForever-nh2vp Paul Chato calls him zippermouth😆
He kinda looks like Jeff the Killer. Which is probably a step down from Darth Gimp.
Young Anakin: Master sir, what are midiclorians?
Qui-Gon Jinn: It's heroin.
I’ve heard tales of a taco shell made of Doritos.
Make sure EVERYBODY has a zima!
We have the highest midichlorian count
Which means that you have a lesser amount.
"Oh look, rat-boy is here -- good to see him! Oh, and literally Satan."
CREEEEEPIOO
The Sphinx: "If you do not master your rage-"
Mr. Furious: "-then your rage will become your master?"
MYSTERY MEN, 1999
"...."
"That is what you were gonna say, wasn't it?"
"...not exactly."
I really hate how the sensible desert clothing Alec Guinness wore in A New Hope immediately became the official Jedi uniform. They’re supposed to be these individual “knights”, not soldiers. They should wear whatever fits the scenario.
Even luke wears his all black outfit, then in phantom menace theyre all wearing sandy robes like ben kenobi
@@TonyTynebridge YES! Even the f-ing kids. 😝 In the f-ing mega-city. ☹️
@@TonyTynebridge It would have been pretty funny if he stepped into the Emperor’s chamber in Jedi… and the Emperor looks him over like “oh… I see you’re not wearing the… well, bold choice.”
Knights aren't soldiers?
From what I've been told, there's a pre-prequels comic that showed a flashback of young Obi-Wan. He was wearing black clothes similar to what Luke wears in RotJ.
I guess George forgot. Or no one told him. Or he didn't care. Probably all three.
The show writers call him Darth Teeth, but most people who watched the show call him Smilo Ren.
Lucasfilm calls him "The Stranger" or Qimir.
@@conradojavier7547 it doesn't really matter, by Lesbian Headlamp admission, he was only made a large part of season 1 because everyone thought the actor was hot. That's why he doesn't do much after ep 5.
wasted potential cus he was actually pretty cool. 100% carried by the actor though, writers did none of the lifting.
As anime fans, my girlfriend and I called him chainsaw man
I like Darth Molar
Putting all of the cameos in the thumbnail is the most RLM thing I've ever seen
Lmao didn’t occur to right away, that was totally intentional 😂
U talk like a ag
The Acolyte is officially cancelled. Damn, Rich must've tapped into the Force himself since he knew to avoid the rest of this one
The Jedi are going to fine Osha with a workplace violation.
They are going to need a Medical Administration Examination after this!
Lmao. That was good.
Guard rails in the unknown planet island OSHA certified
@@aleccampbell7707 the reason the death star lacks guard rails is because at some point in season 2 OSHA gets violated.
Clever
I’ve never truly understood the pain that Mike and Rich felt watching Picard, but after watching the Acolyte I still don’t understand their pain because I only had the power of one. Mike and Rich had the power of 2.
Does George Lucas have the power of...MANNNNYYYYY
@@TheDCbiz YAESSS...YAESSS
@@TheDCbizit’s like poetry it rhymes
@@TheDCbiz Close, "money," but it hasn't made him happy seeing what they've done to his child.
The power of one too many.
Rich is just happily sat at home watching Farscape
the only winning move.
Common Rich Evans W
Because of Rich I started watching Farscape and my diabetes went away
The only way to win is not to play
25th Anniversary!
Seeing Star Trek Man apologise to Star Wars Man and accepting they are both victims of Modern Franchise is wholesome.
But Star Trek man is fine Star Wars theory is a cock hole
I would like to thank the auto generated subtitles for suggesting that the Jedi were on that planet using metal detectors to look for virgins in the force.
Did you see how much Sol was thirsting after those little girls? I think the captions got it right.
…Is that not what they said? (Aside from "force" actually being "forest".)
@@NoriMori1992 They're looking for a "vergence".
@@lazycatchphrase8148 Oh wow, that really changes the tone of a huge chunk of this video 😂
By the by, what's a "vergence"? (It has a couple dictionary definitions, but neither of them make sense in this context.)
@@NoriMori1992 Honestly, i have no idea what it means in this Star Warsy context beyond them shortening "convergence" to make is sound more mysterious, and i can't be assed to watch this show to find out lol
I had Cortosis once, but my doctor gave me pills for it.
I also have a coprolite helmet
@@margarinedolby Meh, I had one, but found it a bit shitty, tbh.
Ymmv 🍻
My cortisol crystal
I find a little baby powder keeps the area dry and not as itchy.
People know the reason why Mike and Rich were relatively positive on Obi-Wan was because their brains were just destroyed by Picard S2.
Star Wars and Star Trek are in an intense competition to see who can create the worst content. Star trek discovery and Picard seasons 1 and 2 are extremely strong contenders. Not to be outdone we got star wars episode 9, the acolyte, book of boba fett and also the han solo movie
@CalvinJary To be fair that competition has been running since the late 90's. Star Trek thought they had it in the bag with Insurrection, then Star wars jumped the shark with Phantom Menace and JarJar.
Star Trek tried its best to hit back with Nemesis and their burning corpses should have been left as a warning to others after that point.
@@donaldfarquar whats really interesting is that the slow decline of both series actually predates the modern cultural war landscape that is commonly attributed for being responsible for this stuff. Were Star Trek and Star wars just cruelly destined to wither and die.
@@gibra-elwalker8022the problem with both franchises is in the 90s/early 2000s the failures were incompetence, and nowadays it's incompetence mixed with the culture war, so by default, modern day appears far far worse, which tbh it is.
I think the prequels had some interesting ideas that were executed horrendously, but if I had to listen to a race/sex allegory on top of that?
The twins actress has the most diverse perfomance I've seen in a long time xD
Anger: 👁👄👁
Sadness: 👁👄👁
Surprise: 👁👄👁
Fear: 👁👄👁
Joy: 👁👄👁
Truly an actress of all time...
Even Steven Seagal had more expresssions, though not facial... his waddling was quite explanatory
@eldritchmorgasm4018 Segal is fun to watch.
I clutched my pearls when she Vadered!
@@eldritchmorgasm4018 YOU!! Get out. You have no right being this funny. 😂😂😂.
Yeah but did you hear her show off her vocal skills in the music video she made singing about how oppressed she is?
Let's not forget the cardinal sin of forgetting to give the main character proper motivations or agency in their own story. Osha *should* be the one spearheading the story to hunt down her sister and uncover the truth. You know, like a Protagonist would. Instead she gets repeatedly knocked unconscious and dragged around the galaxy.
This is the Plinkett joke about Padme and Obiwan not having a definable character in Phantom Menace but somehow Osha is even more of a non-character.
Along with giving her zero personal drive and motivations, the writers barely even provide proper explanations for her continued presence at all in the story. That alien padawan girl even asks Occupational Safety and Health Administration at one point if she's going to want to join them on the hunt to stop her sister and she flat out says no, she wants nothing to do with her murderous sister that tried to kill her. She just wants to head off to live her life. Even the padawan is surprised by O.S.H.A. suddenly not caring her sister is even alive or wanting to stop her murder spree (especially since she let her escape).
The only reason she ends up with them on the mission is the Jedi come up with a really stupid "We need something to lure Mae in" and insists she go. Ignoring the fact that Mae is on a quest to kill all the Jedi who "killed" her coven (and the Jedi know who she's hunting), thus would obviously be lured in by the presence of Master Squid Game or Jedi-Wookie. They never needed O.S.H.A. at all. She's more of a liability. Plus how they arrest O.S.H.A. at the beginning of the show and take her into custody, but one would think there be clear evidence of O.S.H.A. being on board that ship she works on. Surely there are security cams and eye-witnesses of her being there and working at the time of the murders. Along with proof that no ship ever left with her on it (especially with her being a lowly mechanic that is treated as expendable... despite droids doing a better and cheaper job since they don't eat, sleep or require regular pay) that could have made it to the planet in time to kill Trinity and back. They also aren't using this brand new Jedi skill to mind read their inner-thoughts and see the truth.
So when they aren't knocking her unconscious and dragging her to the next set piece, even the in-story excuses and reasoning to get her involved in the plot are flimsy, if not asinine.
It honestly felt like Osha being knocked out is just how they transition from one scene (or planter) to the next. That girl must have gotten about five concussions in less than a week… might explain why she falls for the evil guy that killed her friends, she just can’t remember them after all the brain damage
they are trying to suggest she is all world eternal, loving God's child.... Leslie thinks she really achieved something when the lightsaber turned red. she really thought that meant something it was so important that it made up for not having a direction where the character can be judged like everyone else as they'd undoubtedly fail. These Mary sues are so risk adverse and ordinary why bother showing up at the beginning just come in at the end.
Maybe she'll come into her own in season 2.
@KyLewin that explains everything
The cost of Star Wars was more than the Louisiana Purchase, and that's adjusted for inflation.
Dear god...
The cost… to use Star Wars?
Lukas sold it for 4-5 billion it’s worth 70-80 now
I hope Spaceballs 2 ends up being the best star wars movie of the last 2 decades.
No chance, with modern woke ideology. You couldn’t even make the original space balls these days. Yogurt and The Schwartz might be a bit on the nose for modern audiences 😂
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Sad but true and Josh Gad is an a@@hole and will be very PC.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 "Modern audiences are too easily offended, blah blah blah ✊️✊️💦"
Modern audiences are plenty fond of dark/edgy humor. The bigger issue would be an entire generation of audiences being sold a sequel to a film from 37 years ago they've mostly never heard of.
Of the century!
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Exactly, Josh Gad will woke it up for modern day Hollywood.
one thing about the black smoke witch, Sol reacts the way he does because he sees the little girl also disintegrating into smoke while the witch looks almost banshee like in which she looks absolutely villainous.
Can’t really fault the guy. Shit looked spooky as fuck.
From a show and its creators that're preaching the power of beauty being skin deep too.
Everything Sol does is appropriate because it's Sol doing it.
Sol, damn you, Sol
Especially if she didn't warn him or explain what she was about to do. Which maybe she did, I haven't seen the show, but it sure didn't look like she did?
"You killed my mother?"
"I mean, she was actively vaporizing your sister at the time, but yes"
Mike's knowing cackle when Jay says he completely forgot watching Obi-Wan brought me so much joy
Wasn't Mike kinda into the Kenobi show?
I wish I could forget watching that show. 😒
@@ioncewasmikey He liked it because it was bad.
@ioncewasmikey both him and Rich literally said MULTIPLE times that it was barely "okay". Does saying something is "eh it's okay" mean you like it? Jfc you people man
@@real1mem3syeah, OK means it was tolerable to sit through but not particularly enjoyable. 2 or 2.5 outta 5.
They should just make a Qui Gon Jinn show where he's always drinking Gin
Yes. In fact, forget the Qui Gon. Just gin is good.
"Why is all the gin gone, Qui?"
The Quinine in his gin and tonics allows him to subjugate countless planets previously unreachable due to malaria.
Guy On Gin
Guy On Gin
Correction to Jay: Velma didn't get a second season because of hate watching. Velma was always getting a second season, they ordered a number of episodes and divided them in two seasons.
Never understand hate watching. Why pay for thing you hate? Why don't just torrent it?
@@user-rh8mg2sw5s Probably because everything is a subscription service now anyway.
@@user-rh8mg2sw5sFin-dom is a thing.
@@benjaminubben4436it still tells me that HBO was so impressed with this shit they ordered a full 2 seasons from the get go. And that’s not a good feeling.
@@user-rh8mg2sw5s "Why don't just torrent it?"
Because they use piracy numbers in their analytics? Game of Thrones famously used them. All you are doing with hate watching a pirated version is telling them that they need to make better anti-piracy stuff.
What Jay is describing is what Roger Ebert famously coined as “The Idiot Plot”. The only way the premise works is if everyone involved is dumb. Modern writing is guilty of it all the time now.
I would emphasize that the “idiot plot” has been prevalent in studio filmmaking forever, though. Every single Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers film has one.
@@bluefire9147 It's great for light comedies, and if I recall correctly, all the Astaire/Rogers collabs were musical comedy. The problem really starts when someone puts an idiot plot in something ostensibly serious. The RLM Plinkett video on Last Jedi had a similar point about the structure of that movie resembling a comedy of errors.
There have always been Idiot Plots, they're not a new phenomenon.
It’s too bad Jay hasn’t watched Andor because it’s the only series I think he has a real shot at liking.
Man, that prison riot is one of the hardest things put to screen. Got my eyes watery with thug tears like when Vatos Locos wipe out Tres Puntos in Blood In Blood Out, or when Gary Oldman gives that dude a Chelsea Grin in The Firm.
Why? Because of the Iesbian space witches that Disney somehow managed to NOT make appeaIing to white men?
Yeah, _Andor_ handles those big-picture anthropological ideas seriously, but it's also exciting and dramatic.
Knowing Jay, he’ll hate on Andor just to be a cynical contrarian.
Ironically, the absence of deus ex machina 'force powers' results in a script that is much tighter. It's still far from perfect, but in a completely different stratosphere when compared to Acolyte
Jay needs to understand that Velma was made as two seasons, it didn't get greenlit for a third because the fact is there isn't enough hate watchers to sustain a show.
I agree, infact that fact should be taught in schools
@@spinifex2d It is.
Yeah I think the hatewatchers may watch one, maybe 2 episodes then skip the rest.
Yeah I noticed season 2 was announced pretty shortly after the release of season 1
More accurate to say that they ordered one season and split it.
There was no big pile of hatewatch bucks that enticed them to make another season.
I mean, you really feel that by the end of the second part they really didn't give two shits anymore what's going on.
Not that they started with much of a motivation.
“A fossilized dinosaur turd” is a pretty solid description of modern Star Wars
It's poetic
the Coprolyte ™
@@spurgu9769 It's like poetry, it rhymes...
Nothing ever dies.
Even poop.
Twenty-seven-pounder
Maybe we aren't teaching Rich Evans. Maybe Rich Evans is teaching us.
😂 well done
by the end of the Acolyte all I could think of with Sol is that meme from Kung Pow "We trained him wrong on purpose. As a Joke!" He can't sense any danger or any life forms ever lol
If you've got an ass I would kick it!
Jay is doing himself a disservice by not watching Andor, but watching everything else.
Does it lead to a future golden age that lasted one generation when the horrible age it had to replace was 1000 year republic and 1000 generations of Jedi success? Then no one cares. You have to delete everything after Return of the Jedi to save Star Wars for it to make close to any sense. The future that made sense was Leia as the brains, Luke as the protector/sword. The people who make modern Star Wars hate that due to personal beliefs so Star Wars has no future.
he’s not
it’s still bad
@@lanoiarnoldretard detected
Feels like people wanted Andor to be what got RLM to get over their self-imposed ironic detached attitude towards SW. Well I don't care to split hairs worrying whether Rich/Plinkett designates whatever franchise as "gay shit" like they're the Oracle of Delphi.
@@ShmuckTheUnfunny why on earth do you think it’s ironic
“All your favorite franchises have been in flames for years now.” That’s it, that’s the point. Thanks Jay
Demoralization is one of the biggest moves they have in their playbook.
Within just a couple years, they ruined Star Wars and Kingdom Hearts for me. I went from being a fan to realizing everything is just a product for them to sell. These aren't the franchises we fell in love with.
They ruined Game of Thrones in that time too
@@callinic999 Lord of the Rings fanatic myself. So, you know.
haha I'm so glad we Halo fans don't have to deal with that... 😊
@@callinic999fuck don't forget the marvel movies
The description of this video is more layered, meaningful and thought out than most of the "Stories" Disney tells these days or really most Star Wars stories in general for that matter.
This 1 hour and 15 minute video was very good! And I am commenting this after watching it all!!
I've also watched it in its entirety at 1x speed and found the quality of the video to be unimpeachable.
I believe this 100 percent true statement by this honest poster.
no shit
Yes, I too enjoyed it thoroughly. Specifically the point where they expressed their opinion of that one scene in a comedic manner. Really gave me a chuckle. (I clapped)
You lie!!
Startreck and Star Wars... Their once rival fanbases are now companions sharing alcoholic drinks until they pass out.
JJ Abrahms is behind the new stuff, makes sense.
@@minespatch He ended the war between Trekkies and Star War Fans by destroying both their cities, and now these bitter enemies are united in sorrow.
True
@Marinealver i used to hate trekkies. Now i just feel bad for them cuz i know were going through the same shit.
Nah, because I’m not going to drink myself into a stupor because of how bad Star Wars is. It’s been mostly bad for 25 years. I’ll just watch the stuff I like and forget about the stuff I don’t.
The power of Mike, the power of Jay, the power of Rich Evaaaaaans
The power of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSS
I had this exact idea for a comment word for word lol
@@MildandLazyGuy man, I knew someone would beat me to it
@@j.c.denton2060lol, same
The power of Rich Evans compells you!!!!
The best character growth of all is Jay absorbing Star Trek knowledge via osmosis from being forced to film the many RLM discussions about it.
Mike's insidious plan to convert RLM to his personal Star Trek podcast is one step closer.
Rich is out buying lottery tickets.
After Biden defeated Medicare how else will Rich afford his medications?
And Tums
@@michaelmyers3709 I heard they're for sale!
Who isn't these days?
@@billy-bg9rx smart people
I can't believe Mike finally spoke about DS9.
@@TrackZero Here’s to hoping Mike and Rich do full DS9 re:view one day!
@@Rhhe82I’ve been hoping for that since their TNG reviews. I don’t think they like DS9 as much as TNG.
He mentioned it in his discovery review.
Acolyte writer: "Have you ever seen Three's Company? "
Acolyte Producer: " No. Why?
Writer: " Good... "
😂
It’s not a tale the Jedi would tell you
How dare you. Three's Company is far better than this trash, lol.
@@AbsentMinded619 it leads to comedy many may find .. unnatural
Loved the gremlins 2 quote- “Right now we are advising all our clients to put everything they’ve got into canned food and shotguns.”
Disney needs to reboot Twin Peaks in order to ruin something Jay likes so he can join the club.
Haha Disneys version of the Red Room 😮😮😮😅😂😂😂
That would actually be hilarious and interesting in a really fucked up way.
Disney version of Mike and Leland at the stoplight revving their engines and screaming while Laura is also screaming.
He got angy with the exorcist reboot/sequel thing.
Had to even eat his pride by admiting "woke-scorcist" was an accurate description
Wow, I thought I was the only person in the world who not only remembered the movie 'Radio' but also remembered Ed Harris' saying 'We haven't been teaching Radio, Radio has been teaching us!' in the trailer.
Thank you, Jay!
I saw Radio younger than I probably should've. That movie stuck with me way too much in a sad way. 😂
You're both guilty
Great how they always have to dehumanize disabled people in mainstream media, between that and calling an autistic character ”Music”. 🙄
and godzilla minus 1 cost less to make than a single episode of this
Half the cost of one episode
Woah, thats impressive tbf
Cuz good filmmakers make it work through skill not just the power of moneeeeeey
Godzilla Minus 1 could've been made with $1000 and it would've been a billion times better than any Star Wars show
@@real1mem3sClone Wars microseries was awesome though
Rich Evans calls The Acolyte “Un-re:view-able”
Jay is the appropriate cohost. The Acolyte is a seminal piece of horror.
Unintentional horror
I thought it was funny.Unintentionally so, but funny. The AI that wrote the show has a future in comedy.
Best comment for sure! @primarchX. This show was so universally hated and memed online that Mike and Jay who would normally obliterate and meme this show themselves really held back a lot of punches
Seminal horror is what happened the time I tore my urethra
And yet, the conception of the protagonists was not seminal at all. Curious.
I can't believe they're complaining about this when there are starving African children in Cambodia.
I know right? There starving. Just like when Mr. Plinkitt "nitpicked" the prequels. Oh....
Nobody talks about the starving Cambodians in mongolia these days.
@@KR-hg8beSeriously, we gotta talk about it, There's Starving Cambodians in Peru now like wtf how they spreading
I have a starving woman in my basement and the pizza rolls won't talk about it.
The best outcome of The Acolyte is Mike learning he's not so different from Star Wars (Theory) Man.
His 'apology' seemed a bit passive-aggressive at first, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt after he continued on to talk about how he felt the same way about Star Trek
@@reaps912shut up nerd
I mean, the reason we're all here is because he nitpicked tf out of Phantom Menace. I like how he ignores that. Like a married woman who tries to pretend she was never a stripper/prostitute/Egirl.
@@LembeckIsStayingyeah no kidding, he was literally the person he's claiming to be above now
@@LembeckIsStaying Right but that's just growing up/old, are they not allowed to move on and change if they want to? I don't think Mike tries to act like he wasn't that in the past, just he's gotten tired of that now. The difference between RLM and ppl like Star Wars Theory is RLM just do whatever they feel like, Plinkett was popular but they barely do it anymore even though people would enjoy it. No matter how committed outrage youtubers claim they are, they're just raking in the money for as long as it gives.
came to say from the future...season 2 was canceled.
There is a god
I remember going to see TFA while my wife was Christmas shopping. A whole class of kids (no idea what they were a part of) came and sat behind me. I listened to one little kid explain Star Wars to another kid and my heart warmed.
Then he told the kid that he had to watch "the boring ones" before he could watch "the good ones" (the Prequels).
That's when I knew we were in trouble.
Hearing Mike forget Dexter Jettster's name is so weird especially when everyone remembers that name because of Mike.
All I can remember is Therm Scissorpunch.
@@jayclean5653 Please tell me that's a real character.
@@kalashnikovdevil I think it is.
I laughed out loud when the baddie not only broke into a Jedi temple super easily and escaped through a skylight, but actually broke back in the next day through the same fucking skylight.
Yeah cuz sith never infiltrate the jedi in star wars 😂
with how bad security was at the trump rally. I am starting to believe that under a giant galactic Bureaucracy there was some incompetent head of security that just let it happen because they're just bad at their job
breaking into the same jedi temple twice in a row is super easy, barely an incon...
It's poetry, it rhymes.
Barely an inconvenience.
Love how Mike brings up temple of doom indian guy whenever he has the chance
I still don't understand how it cost $180mil when over half the episodes used the same sets.
Money washing
Money washing/ embezzlement.
Apparently massive reshoots contributed significantly.
@@atomic_waitthey reshoot every episode twice according to leaks
I'm gonna massive reshoot another turd down my toilet bowl
Remember when Star Wars The Phantom Menace was the most disappointing thing since Mr Plinkett’s son?
Good times.
Remember when the Holiday Special was the absolute low point of Star Wars?
Good times
@@kaenachoo4783Nah, neither of these have been surpassed in terms of how awful they are.
At least his son had the decency to hang himself in a gas station bathroom.
@@sebastienmccarthy1483 The Phantom Menace is leagues above Disney Star Wars. It has flaws, but it's enjoyable and doesn't shit on the spirit of the entire franchise just for the sake of meeting modern politics requirements.
@@jonathanm9069The phantom menace was made to crap all over Bush, it was filled with the politics of the time it came out.
It's crazy how much the Jedis never get shown being general "good guys", they're always just flunkies for the bureaucracy or fighting other, evil Jedis. They go down to a sand planet run by a criminal slug who loves slavery and are like "cool, not our problem, we have trade agreements to enforce"
If the star wars writers knew anything about the Holy Roman Empire and all the christian chisms, catharism etc they might be able to do something interesting with
@@LeflairZone Let me see the Jedi Council selling artifacts to laymen as promises that they'll be one with the force when they die.
@ND-nr6mx
Jedi Martin Luther could be fun.
@@alanpennie things like that and the schisms would make the galaxy feel a lot bigger. Hell, expand it to have some weird taoist or buddhist inspired branches of "jedi" or unrelated force religions. Japanese war monks etc.
I did like this little witch-clan (unrelated to those other ones) for that detail. It's not just a couple hundred Jedi and a Sith/Dark Jedi here and there.
If they had anyone good at world building they really could make the (oldier) republic era feel strange, mystic and *big*.
The Acolyte cured me of Star Wars.
Star Wars cured me of Star Wars.
The last jedi. But yea
It has gotten very dumpster divish.
The Last Jedi cured me of Star Wars.
I liked it. It was fun
Whenever Rich Evans is not on screen, all the other hack frauds should be asking “Where’s Rich Evans?”
He flies now
He had to return to his home planet...
Thats incorrect about Velma, it did NOT get renewed due to hatewatching.
What actually happened is that they commissioned one season and paid the animators for one season and screwed them over by splitting it in half to create 2 seasons, then released them separately. Even if zero people had watched season 1 of velma, season 2 would have been released. Thats why there is no season 3, because they had such bad viewership
There’s no way I’m going to verify that bc I will never watch the show, but you can’t just split a season. Seasons have story arcs so everything leading up to the ending getting wrapped up would not perfectly happen halfway through a season. These things are planned out even if the show is dogshit.
Reminder than St discovery has 4 seasons and not a soul has watched past season 2
I was looking for this comment. Hate watching isn't really a thing outside of so-bad-it's-good media. The only views being racked up for garbage like Velma are the views on the videos tearing it apart.
@@Davidsworldtravelsit's been a pretty common strategy for streaming shows, Netflix has done it quite often.
@@DavidsworldtravelsWhat OP is saying isn't that, but rather that in order to pay less for shows, rather than the traditional 20-26 episode seasons of old, they will give them 10-13 episodes for a "season 1" and the rest for a "season 2", which is why there's never a huge break between them. It's the same on a show like My Adventures with Superman.
I like how the whole conversation turned to Star Trek as soon as there was a chance
You know what would be great? If Yoda knows everything that’s going on, but is wise enough to not care.
Imagine a story where some guy thinks the Jedi are useless and corrupt ... but then the Jedi are competent and Just and restore peace.
That's now the real subversion of expectations. 😕
The problem is that even the OT msde clear that Vader and the Empire rose under the watch of supposedly all-time great jedi like Obi Wan and Yoda: the whole series literally does not happen if the jedi order are generally competent.
Thats why imo the old republic is a much better setting for prequel stories because it's so far removed from that established downfall
The Jedi have now been completely useless for nearly 25 years.
Hard to come back from that.
@@Pangora2 No way the kind of audience that grew up on plinkett would accept it.
Im glad Mike apologized to Star Wars man because he had it right, there are a lot of fans of Star Wars who care about the lore much like Mike cares about Star Trek. Good on him for recognizing that.
Ya I dont watch the show because I refuse to hate watch it and give them the view. If you dont like something, dont watch it.
Starving kids
Star Wars man aka the man who cried at CGI Luke Skywalker and complained that Andor was boring. 🤡
Star Wars Man is a complete tool.
Star Wars Man, the Andrew Tate sympathiser.
Those replying need to understand that there are starving children in Africa 😂
I think Jay nailed it. The show's main message seems to be moral relativism. But Star Wars has always been about good vs evil. Yes, sometimes there are misunderstandings, and some people are redeemed. But good and evil have always been considered to be moral absolutes.
The Acolyte and it's writers seem to be implying that power is the only relevant measure in all the interactions we see on screen. It's bleak and depressing. And I think it's also false. Star Wars used to resonate with people because it was a simple fantasy about defeating evil and overcoming adversity. This new nihilism isn't going to be selling any toys, that's for sure.
I hated the whole "there is no dark side" stuff in the EU. I get that the dark side might well be tempting because it *seems* like morality is relative, but it's important for the narrative to reinforce the idea that, ultimately, the path of the Jedi is at least an attempt at doing the objective right thing.
@@Nukefandango I would disagree about the "no Dark Side" thing, at least with respect towards the old, pre-Disney EU. I read up to about a third of the way through the "New Jedi Order" series in middle school, and have lately restarted my read-through of all the books (I'm at "Tatooine Ghost" right now), so maybe I'm wrong; but so far-especially in the Rebellion to New Republic era (pre-Yuuzhan Vong), there is a clear good-versus-evil metaphysics. Again, maybe it changes post-NJO, but that's what I've seen so far. But we can both agree, I think, that the Disney canon stance is one of moral confusion and grey-ness. It's so boring and tired.
@@sw3aty_forteold EU may have had a good bit of bad, but that was massively outweighed by the okay and great stuff in there.
@@Nukefandango I heard somewhere that George Lucas intended the Dark Side to be in and of itself imbalance in the force, rather than balance in the force being a balance between light and dark (no clue if that's accurate, just heard it somewhere). That's an idea I like, that the dark side is merely a perversion of the light.
Rich Evans is recovering from Covid and endorsed Jay Bauman as his successor.
"Stenberg shared that even though no one told her about Plagueis appearing in The Acolyte, not even showrunner Leslye Headland, she was able to figure out that the Sith Lord would appear."
_THEY DIDN'T TELL HER BECAUSE THE SHOWRUNNER AND WRITERS DIDN'T EVEN KNOW PLAGUEIS WAS GOING TO APPEAR UNTIL THEY WERE HALFWAY THROUGH SHOOTING THE LAST EPISODE AND SHOEHORNED IT IN._
We assume Stenberg would even know who Plaugeis is
Remember this show cost 180 million
Amazing I thought for sure was 500 mil plus
A few millions definitely went to vibrating dildos on set
@@householdgambler what?
Phantom Menace only cost 113 million dollars for context
@@ScienceBabble 113 million in 1999 is 213 million in 2024
This video description belongs in the Library of Congress.
"I don't care what they taught in Surviving Edged Weapons - my Grandma Mike said Rich Evans is the key to all of this!"
He’s a funnier character than we’ve had before.
@@scotteous But... not much chance of getting him working!
you can tell Mike wrote the description by the dementia present
That video description was beautiful holy shit I thought I was reading Emerson at one point
Whats an emerson
Described audio of the thirst pond scene is like a romance novel or 50 Shades of Lightsabers
If you didn't say that Mike wrote it, I would have just assumed that it was a schizophrenic wall of text.
I'm pretty sure the very end of this video constituted Mike's Presidential campaign announcement.
Me explaining to my 7-year old in ten years why I told him there were only three Star Wars movies: “So what I told you was true, from a certain point of view.”
Some of the use of OT quotes recently has been very good, I really like the way you did that.
You could throw rogue one and andor in there tbh
@@wawa6711Rogue One sucked.
23:40 actually watch the video bud
“Well in my point of view, the Jedi are evil!”
It's crazy that this is the basically the only unbiased review of the show
All i took away from this video is that now there is a smiling Q-anon sith lord in Star Wars.
He's not Q-anon at all lol.
@@Juel92He's not Q Anon, but Q Anon is about the sith and therefore, him.
If you told me that there was some sort of MAGA analog where a bunch of the Empire started wearing red storm trooper helmets, I seriously wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.
You would have to work so hard to get me to care about Star Wars in 2024.
@@hypno5690 There really isn't any politics in the show though.
@@Juel92 it's kind of cute that you think that
They turned the Jedi into the cops from demolition man.
Your comment reminded me of Doug's conclusion about Demolition Man
Turned?
Get a load of this guy and his boggle
@@alanpennie maybe op's native language isn't English. I have the same issue when using verbs to. For example "turn" in Spanish can be understood as "volver/girar/retornar a" and so for a Spanish speaker like me "turning around or turning to" it's like saying "someone has become into this or that".
@@mrpurple11
Interesting.
There's hunger in the world right now and instead of fixing it, giant companies are making bad star wars shows.
Man-children need to eat too.
Exactly. Make good shows to distract me from the horrors of 3rd world poverty. Honestly, at this point, I’m wondering if Mogadishu has puppet-theater that might be worth the carb deficit.
poor african children could have eaten those lightsabers
If you spend money to feed 2 starving african children you know what you get? More starving african children. Throwing money at them does nothing.
You can’t fix world hunger while half the people live in a F***ing desert! (RIP Sam Kinison).
Sometimes its better to admit your beloved is medically dead than to keep visiting their lifeless corpse in a coma. Pull the plug and be free.
The descriptions to RLM videos becoming more and more unhinged keeps me going. Thanks guys.
Dang, that's an epic description!
It was beautiful
Very Cool!
Props to whoever wrote this one for fully committing to the bit.