I'd like to share what I know and think of this mask (some of it may be just theories, but anyway). In the 1988 Manual for using personal protective equipment (which is shown on 1:55) it is said that main compartment of bag is for the mask, and the flat (or small) one is for the plastic bag. PMK and PMK-2 masks also had this plastic bag, and as I read in that Manual, mask should be put into it only before, for example, crossing a river or a stream. Also, it should be equipped with 2 (two) rubber bands for closing the bag. More about bag - it is used for storage of the facepiece in the storage rooms. For this period a paper is put in the plastic bag alongside with the facepiece. This paper contains information about the size of the halfmask. Another moment - I think that PBF was made primarily for drivers of tanks and other armoured vehicles where space is limited. Filtering box (FPK) could catch some surrounding details in that limited space. At the same time, elements take less space and can be enough for their primary purpose. There is a series of training films from end of 1980s - beginning of 1990s about NBC protection. In these films, PBF is shown in an episode with a driver of BMP of BTR. Anyway, I think that the best way to find out the true purpose of PBF is to ask soldiers of soviet VDV troops and armoured vehicles drivers about their equipment
I also think that antifogging inserts should be in every kit - PBF is a military mask and there could be no other issuing services (I found a couple of PBFs in a civil defence shelter in Lithuania, but I think that they were put there from some military storage after Lithuania left the USSR)
@@Rezinovyi_zhuK It was recommended to keep the PBF mask specifically in the watertight bag at all times because it is more vulnerable to water and the elements as a whole than per say the PMK. As for antifog, as a matter of fact it was not supplied with every gasmask. The PBF was used by the Soviet Army, Civil Defense and military industrial institutions (военпром). Otherwise, solid comment! Спасибо!
@@ProjectSparkPC Haha. One of my friends had me change his PBF filters since he uses it for woodworking as a simple particulate mask because I own an M10 that I use for grinding, and i'm good at filter swapping, and it was absolute hell
Ah comrade, amazing video! I’m loving this cbrn content! It’d be absolutely amazing if you could make a video on the shmp gas mask kit as there is many theories and misinformation about the kit.
You see, the ShMP doesn't have a specific kit, it was used in several. It was intended as a universal mask for technical and industrial purposes. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@ProjectSparkPC ohhh ok! Thanks for the clarity! On eBay I found what appears to be an ShMP kit with a light grey fpk and an shm-62u facepiece. Again amazing content comrade!
Depends on your budget. You could find a Russian seller and ask them to ship it directly, which is usually expensive. Otherwise your best bet is to buy a freshly made GP-7 as a full kit on eBay or something, or look for filters there as well.
Generally it is not good to use old filters. This guy is personally not concerned with it, and that's ok, but I'd personally advise against use of any old filters.
@@Train115 Correct, we have a dedicated video on asbestos, old filters and why we are comfortable with wearing them for short periods of time when we film content
They **almost** had a great mask! Goofy old cheek filters. Funny way to unintentionally troll the Soviets though. Issue a crummy mask long enough for them to mirror it and realize they suck LOL
Huge problem of the gas mask is the filters will just sort of pop out under any sort of stress at all. Very unpopular with people who actually have had to put them to work due to this
I am assuming you are talking from experience with western counterparts? I say this because with the PBF specifically it is very hard to extract the filters even willingly let alone on accident. The slots are very tight and the outside caps sit very well, it takes a tool of some sort to take them off.
@@ProjectSparkPC Anecdotal evidence, however I had gotten one for myself many years ago, did fitting and made sure it was operational, whilst doing some larping in the woods, both caps had popped free of the mask and fallen into the bag. Without the extra tension or the seal from the caps the filters fell loose in the “cheeks” compromising the seal. Whenever I had questions about warsaw pact gear back then, I’d ask my old boss who had spent his youth in the volksarmee right up to the end. Usually he didn’t feel very strongly about many pieces of equipment other than eastern bloc power tools or afv’s (he’d been some sort of crewman I believe) but did have some experience with this mask, the seals apparently were infamous for only lasting as long as training with them, they were much easier to deal with and certainly less cumbersome than other models, but he’d rather be safe than comfortable.
What you are talking about is called "helmet-mask" pattern. It offers protection to the skin of the head and hair as well as the face. Chemical warfare agents can do a lot of damage by settling down in a person's hair, here this possibility is excluded. It is also quite cheap to produce unlike regular masks with harnesses that have a lot of different parts. However, regular masks were also produced in the USSR. Look at GP-4 and PMK gasmasks for example.
If you asked this question about any other Soviet mask I would be able to answer for sure, but this one is questionable. Since it doesn't use filters with standard layout it does not have a FMP paper layer either, which is exactly what contains asbetos. Given that, its possible that there is actually no asbestos in this mask.
@@ZacharyCornes The main issue here is the shape. The filter slots are very tight and are specifically designed for EO-19E ovals. But you can try, let me know how that goes lol
I'd like to share what I know and think of this mask (some of it may be just theories, but anyway).
In the 1988 Manual for using personal protective equipment (which is shown on 1:55) it is said that main compartment of bag is for the mask, and the flat (or small) one is for the plastic bag. PMK and PMK-2 masks also had this plastic bag, and as I read in that Manual, mask should be put into it only before, for example, crossing a river or a stream. Also, it should be equipped with 2 (two) rubber bands for closing the bag. More about bag - it is used for storage of the facepiece in the storage rooms. For this period a paper is put in the plastic bag alongside with the facepiece. This paper contains information about the size of the halfmask.
Another moment - I think that PBF was made primarily for drivers of tanks and other armoured vehicles where space is limited. Filtering box (FPK) could catch some surrounding details in that limited space. At the same time, elements take less space and can be enough for their primary purpose. There is a series of training films from end of 1980s - beginning of 1990s about NBC protection. In these films, PBF is shown in an episode with a driver of BMP of BTR. Anyway, I think that the best way to find out the true purpose of PBF is to ask soldiers of soviet VDV troops and armoured vehicles drivers about their equipment
I also think that antifogging inserts should be in every kit - PBF is a military mask and there could be no other issuing services (I found a couple of PBFs in a civil defence shelter in Lithuania, but I think that they were put there from some military storage after Lithuania left the USSR)
@@Rezinovyi_zhuK It was recommended to keep the PBF mask specifically in the watertight bag at all times because it is more vulnerable to water and the elements as a whole than per say the PMK. As for antifog, as a matter of fact it was not supplied with every gasmask. The PBF was used by the Soviet Army, Civil Defense and military industrial institutions (военпром). Otherwise, solid comment! Спасибо!
@@ProjectSparkPC Could you please provide some materials that can show usage of PBF in civil defence?
They were supplied to the civil defense cell and the military department of the university I study at. Very few of them, but still.
“Pick up that can” ahh mask
I haven't even watched the video and I already know it's gonna be a banger! Love you and your channel, man! Keep it up!
Seeing this guy fumble around with the filters sped up was weirdly funny. Good video, comrade 🫡
Couldn't make you guys suffer watching it as much as I had to suffer doing it xD
@@ProjectSparkPC Haha. One of my friends had me change his PBF filters since he uses it for woodworking as a simple particulate mask because I own an M10 that I use for grinding, and i'm good at filter swapping, and it was absolute hell
That intro was so smooth!!! Well made. I love to see your guys' content. Keep it up comrades!!!
Thanks! Will do!
I am looking forward to when you eventually get to the PMG kit, that's my favorite Soviet mask.
For sure
Ah comrade, amazing video! I’m loving this cbrn content! It’d be absolutely amazing if you could make a video on the shmp gas mask kit as there is many theories and misinformation about the kit.
You see, the ShMP doesn't have a specific kit, it was used in several. It was intended as a universal mask for technical and industrial purposes.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@ProjectSparkPC ohhh ok! Thanks for the clarity! On eBay I found what appears to be an ShMP kit with a light grey fpk and an shm-62u facepiece. Again amazing content comrade!
Za Monolith!
The monolith has abandoned us..
City 7 ahh mask
I think you mean the pmg gas mask
@@Yokohamasheepthe design is based off of both
before this video i thought the mask was called EO-19. Very good video comrade.
New project spark video, day saved
Love your content watched all your video and enjoyed them .
One request could you please talk about the PMG gas mask please ,Thank you.
Noted
@@ProjectSparkPC Do you know where i can buy modern russian filter and have them shipped to canada
Depends on your budget. You could find a Russian seller and ask them to ship it directly, which is usually expensive. Otherwise your best bet is to buy a freshly made GP-7 as a full kit on eBay or something, or look for filters there as well.
Great video I remember recommending this keep it up !
Как всегда на высоте
Awesome video as always
looks very cool
Awesome Video!
Hey, you should consider reviewing Soviet Combined Arms Suits, like the OZK, L-1 or OP-1. Mabey even review epic rebreather like IP-4, or IP-46!
For sure will, as soon as I get my hands on them. Thanks for the comment!
Will you do videos on other eastern block/Warsaw pact gas masks and equipment from places like GDR or Czechoslovakia?
Whatever I can get my hands on, for sure!
Love the videos keep the work up👍
You should do Soviet head wound gas masks I find them very interesting
Like to see a pmg video
You should do the PMG-1 next!!
I know this mask from STALKER games and I think Half life uses them in the combine soldiers
"pick up that can"
Pick up that can!
I wonder are the pork chop filters yummy?
Yes, probably yummy asbestos, but don't worry you won't die from a single filter.
You will probably get a mouthfull of charcoal, Asbestos, cotton and other chemicals
they taste like lung cancer (I know from experience)
Generally it is not good to use old filters. This guy is personally not concerned with it, and that's ok, but I'd personally advise against use of any old filters.
@@Train115 Correct, we have a dedicated video on asbestos, old filters and why we are comfortable with wearing them for short periods of time when we film content
They **almost** had a great mask! Goofy old cheek filters. Funny way to unintentionally troll the Soviets though. Issue a crummy mask long enough for them to mirror it and realize they suck LOL
Its interesting how the PBF actually turned out pretty well at least for the purposes I mentioned. It was in service until the 2000s.
I had this mask at home once, lost it somehow
one question, are we going to get cancer if we wear this mask with filters, because you can get it if you wear GP-5 or GP-7 gasmask with its filter?
We have a dedicated video on the topic of asbestos in Soviet filters, you should check it out. Hope it answers your questions!
@@ProjectSparkPC Thanks.
Huge problem of the gas mask is the filters will just sort of pop out under any sort of stress at all. Very unpopular with people who actually have had to put them to work due to this
I am assuming you are talking from experience with western counterparts? I say this because with the PBF specifically it is very hard to extract the filters even willingly let alone on accident. The slots are very tight and the outside caps sit very well, it takes a tool of some sort to take them off.
@@ProjectSparkPC Anecdotal evidence, however I had gotten one for myself many years ago, did fitting and made sure it was operational, whilst doing some larping in the woods, both caps had popped free of the mask and fallen into the bag. Without the extra tension or the seal from the caps the filters fell loose in the “cheeks” compromising the seal. Whenever I had questions about warsaw pact gear back then, I’d ask my old boss who had spent his youth in the volksarmee right up to the end. Usually he didn’t feel very strongly about many pieces of equipment other than eastern bloc power tools or afv’s (he’d been some sort of crewman I believe) but did have some experience with this mask, the seals apparently were infamous for only lasting as long as training with them, they were much easier to deal with and certainly less cumbersome than other models, but he’d rather be safe than comfortable.
@@Ratmilker Very interesting, thanks for sharing the experience!
Is there a particular reason the Russians chose to make their gas mask conform around the head instead of just using a harness?
What you are talking about is called "helmet-mask" pattern. It offers protection to the skin of the head and hair as well as the face. Chemical warfare agents can do a lot of damage by settling down in a person's hair, here this possibility is excluded. It is also quite cheap to produce unlike regular masks with harnesses that have a lot of different parts. However, regular masks were also produced in the USSR. Look at GP-4 and PMK gasmasks for example.
Lecombine ahh mask
How get one pleas
I suggest eBay
PBF VIDEO YAHOO
PBF? Nahhhh we got fat GP-5 gas mask😂😂
I recommend GP-5M for ultimate Slavic performance! A new vid on the GP-5 is coming shortly with some cool facts, keep an eye out for it xD
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These masks filters contain asbestos correct?
If you asked this question about any other Soviet mask I would be able to answer for sure, but this one is questionable. Since it doesn't use filters with standard layout it does not have a FMP paper layer either, which is exactly what contains asbetos. Given that, its possible that there is actually no asbestos in this mask.
@@ProjectSparkPC I wonder if you could use p3 modern cheek filters in it and have it function
@@ZacharyCornes The main issue here is the shape. The filter slots are very tight and are specifically designed for EO-19E ovals. But you can try, let me know how that goes lol
@@ProjectSparkPC sure lol
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Ha ha same Game the US M17 Gasmaske 😂🎉
im pretty sure its called "gorilla" than "hamster"
this might sound dumb i take it the ak-47 is air soft
It's an AKS-74N replica
@@ProjectSparkPC i see thank you for that
Fine come bye😅
This mask gives me creeps.
Fake акцент
Pick up that can ahh mask