Bringing up Kumba and Montu made me really nostalgic. Those two were my faovrite coasters as soon as I was tall enough. Hell, I lived in Tampa at the time and remember the day I was tall enough to ride Scorpion the first time when I was like six. I was so glad. (Also I was still too short by a few inches when Montu came out, and was jealous of my taller classmates cuz it looked so cool.
I'm really happy Busch Gardens has decided to fully commit to coasters. The amount we have access to now is just incredible. Montu was my first and my fondness for it is only comparable to a first love.
Something of note about Hagrids that was pointed out to me: The track supports are actually textured to look like wood. A small detail, but a fun one, nonetheless. Coasters provide a lot of very important kinetic energy to areas, and parks have realized this, and are honing this to a science. There are so many really good, visually appealing coasters that are opening. For instance, Iron Gwazi has a lot of visually striking elements, such as the Death Roll and the banked turn over the station. Additionally, the entirety of Velocicoaster is a visual marvel. I hope that making visually interesting, thrilling coasters is going to become an industry standard.
As many times as I've been on Hagrid's, I've never noticed that. I'll look for it next time for sure. I also agree about your point about kinetic energy. One of my favorite things about Busch Gardens is getting on the Skyride and seeing all the coasters juxtaposed with one another.
@@PoseidonEntertainment In terms of visually marvelous coasters, Florida's absolutely spoiled. Busch Gardens Tampa, SeaWorld Orlando, Universal IOA and Studios, the outdoor Disney coasters (though they number few), even the two Fun Spot parks look super good. Could watch 'em for hours. Such rides, both in my home state and at parks I've been to really help provide some excellent inspiration for what I've done in games like Planet Coaster. It's a mess, but it's a damn good looking one.
@@gladiatordragon9219 yes we are. I saw this video pop up while I was at Universal today. Riding VelociCoaster and Hagrid’s back to back is a major privilege. Looking forward to riding Iron Gwazi in a few weeks!
@@kyogresfunchannel more love in terms of new residents as well, as well as a vacation spot for people sick of lockdown including left wing politicians, everyone
Loved this video! Just home from a few days at Universal Orlando and my first time on Hagrid's Motorbike and, of course, Velocicoaster. They are both works of art and probably my top 2 attractions in Orlando at this point. Ever since Velocicoaster opened, I've been binge watching roller coaster videos and reviews, and I've gained so much appreciation for the different design elements in addition to the thrills. I never thought I'd turn into a coaster enthusiast as I'm nearing middle age, but I'm now making a bucket list of coasters I want to experience all over the world. Thanks again for the wonderful video, and for your channel. I feel like we have many similar "values" when it comes to theme parks and immersive storytelling, and I'm so glad your voice is in the mix, especially since my OG most magical place appears to be going through a bit of an identity crisis these days.
Wow this is an incredibly unique incite! I’ve never thought of the comparison between non diegetic/ diegetic with the role of a track within a coaster. While I enjoy coasters I do definitely prefer a story driven experience over thrills and have often looked down on coasters with a non diegetic track as it takes me out of the immersion and believability, but this has definitely made me think of it in a different light!
Thanks for the video! I remember when parks measured their "park power" by the number of coasters they had vs the competition 😆 Kinda like an amusement park arms race
While I do enjoy the idea of parks having the "biggest" coaster and/or the largest number of them, I do appreciate how they've moved away from that, instead focusing on the entire package, rather than a novelty element or bragging rights. Perhaps we'll never get another Kingda Ka, but I'm glad that it exists.
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that always looks at rollercoasters as expressions of art. I absolutely love a coaster with a beautiful layout and visually stunning ride elements. I'll never tire of watching a coaster go through a corkscrew!
Even for rough Arrows, their classic corkscrew model for sure has that appeal. I remember really liking how Cedar Point's Corkscrew was positioned over the pathway. Even though older coasters are also lacking in elements, they still have a "classic" look to them that I also really like.
This is fascinating. As a young boy, a highlight of my year was the state fair, which featured a relatively modest wooden coaster. Of everything I experieced at the fair, this coaster produced the most enduring memory, and not just because of the thrills. Much of what sticks with me is the architectural presence of the coaster.
That's a good point. To add to that, while I wouldn't consider traveling fairs to necessarily be better than most amusement parks, they do have their own aesthetic and feeling that makes them worthwhile as well.
@@PoseidonEntertainment Thanks for the response! BTW, I should have mentioned that this is a permanent coaster at the Washington State Fairground in Puyallup, Washington. It only operates a few weeks a year, and dates back to 1935, although I understand that it has, essentially, been rebuilt. Clearly not in the same category as modern coasters, but not without its charms!
I still remember my very first adult roller coaster. Adventureland in Long Island, NY on a summer camp trip. It was just a fairground-sized coaster, but I’d never been on one before. I didn’t want the other boys to think I was “chicken” so I did it… And I fell in love with roller coasters.
I really appreciate that you take a stance and make an argument in your video essays. I've often bemoaned large coasters with minimal theming for being eyesores, but that is because I never thought about them as storytelling devices through the track itself. I also love any video highlighting the artistic potential of theme parks and their attractions - they are the future of themed entertainment! There are plenty of informational videos around about coasters/dark rides/etc. but having a stance or opinion or critique that you back up makes your videos stand out. Thank you for changing my mind about the artistic merit of coasters! It will certainly make me complain less the next time I visit a park with seemingly-chintzy storytelling.
To be fair, a poorly placed coaster can indeed be an eyesore. I really hate the placement of Silver Bullet at Knotts, just sitting in the middle of the park with everything wrapped around it. The poor planning really detracts from its aesthetic appeal.
@@PoseidonEntertainment That's true. I haven't been to Knott's Berry Farm yet (it's on my list) but I'm inclined to believe that most coasters are not aesthetically pleasing, with thrills taking priority over story/setting (I know there are some exceptions, some of which you've highlighted). I wish that more thrilling attractions could have better theming or at least landscaping to hide the support beams or the flat space underneath the coaster. However, that probably takes money and effort that many parks don't have, which is why I thought your perspective on the art of coasters is a good one. It keeps me from writing off those coasters that are placed well in a park but are not themed to the nines.
11:00 With all due respect, Revolution is a masterclass on how to pace a roller coaster. The loop, being the primary draw, occurs towards the end of the ride, and the long, drawn out ramp down to it builds anticipation for the then-unique experience of turning upside down. The Roller Coaster Philosopher had a whole article on this; I recommend him highly.
I'll admit that I haven't been on it, but from visual inspection, I don't really see what you mean. I tried Googling what you had mentioned by I couldn't find any relevant results. Do you happen to have a link?
This video enlightened me so much! One of your best for sure. I never knew the art that’s within the coasters at parks I look down on like Sea World or Bush Gardens. Lovely video!!!
21:40 Nemesis at Alton Towers is also an example of diagetic track; the track is canonically the massive chains holding the Nemesis creature that is the station down, and the thrashings of the beast are what has twisted the track so much.
i loved this! it's really easy to experience a roller coaster without thinking too much into it and its really interesting breaking them down as an art form instead of just a thrill
Really excellent video. I think that coasters can definitely be architecturally artistic, especially at parks like Cedar Point and Magic Mountain where the park skyline is itself a sort of attraction and a source of excitement. I especially enjoyed your section on diegesis and how track integrates into a narrative. It's one of the main reasons Disney doesn't typically have very large coasters. I hear people say that Disney doesn't build giant coasters like B&M hypercoasters because "Disney parks are for kids" but I don't think that's the issue at all. It's that Disney definitely prefers story telling over intensity of forces and diegesis is usually very important to them (except I guess with Tron.) It is very hard to build a gigantic coaster and build enough theming around it while hiding the track or justifying its visibility so the use of mine trains or coasters in the dark is the most straightforward answer. Even in the case of California Screamin', I think many people missed the point. I remember for years people would say "it's not really themed" but they didn't really get it. California Screamin' DEFINITELY was themed but it had the same meta theming that we now see in Velocicoaster. That is that it was a coaster themed to being a coaster. Only in the case of California Screamin', it was a steel coaster themed to being an old wooden coaster on a California boardwalk park like the two Giant Dipper coasters. I actually think that it makes less sense as Incredicoaster from a thematic standpoint than it did as California Screamin', but that gets us into the soul less disaster that Disney has turned DCA into and that's a conversation for another time. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on Verbolten at Busch Gardens Williamsburg or Fire Chaser Express and Mystery Mine at Dollywood. They are all very fun coasters that are significantly elevated by their thematic elements. Mystery Mine features diegetic track (like most mine themed coasters) and Verbolten and Fire Chaser Express feature non-diagetic track. But they are all fantastic experiences and deserve a lot of praise.
You make a really good point about California Screamin' and I wished I would have mentioned it, even if it doesn't exist anymore thematically. I thought about elaborating more on the coasters you mentioned, but I couldn't find a way to organically fit them into the script. Perhaps sometime later in another video. I have a strong inclination to visit both Busch Gardens Williamsburg and Dollywood this year, so that might be a possibility.
This video hit different - so many fabulous points! I was just at Universal Orlando last week and Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure and VelociCoaster are truly works of art! Both are incredibly thrilling, yet are incredibly comfortable rides!
Hagrid's continues to keep surprising me. No coaster has ever felt so consistently fun to me, no matter how many times I've been on it. The seating position in conjunction with the lateral g's is still pretty unique among coasters, and I think the track layout often gets overshadowed because of the theming. It makes me want to go out to SeaWorld San Antonio and ride Wave Runner.
Your videos are so intelligently put together. One example of coasters being art I'd like to add to the mix are the travelling coasters of Germany, such as Olympia Looping. They are always perfectly and very deliberately arranged so the lift is hidden at the back, and the loops arranged at the front in size order (smallest at the front) so as to showcase the coaster and entice paying riders. Not only are these coasters designed around these principles, but they must also be transportable and extremely high capacity. Combining function and style together like this is such an artform.
I just looked it up and that's pretty interesting. I wish I had known about that before writing my script, as I definitely would have included it. I've enjoyed the few Schwarzkopf coasters I've been on because I love their track design and how "classic" they feel, but I admittedly know little about the manufacturer's history.
@@PoseidonEntertainment can imagine, seeing the amount of research and work that had clearly gone in. I'm just going through your entire back catalogue and liking everything, hope it helps even if it is ever so little. Keep up the good work!
I love this video so much 🥰 As soon as my boyfriend wakes up Im going to show him this. He's not a coaster guy but this perfectly explains a big part of why I love them so much ❤🥺 I grew up with Cedar Point as my home park, and the feeling of approaching the peninsula on the causeway entrance side and the moment when the park just comes into view is indescribable. There's nothing like that initial view of the rides, its perfect composition in my opinion 🥰
I haven't been to Cedar Point since... 2007 maybe? I would definitely like to go again though, most likely this year. I believe that I would perceive the park differently, appreciating it in a way that I couldn't when I was younger.
@@PoseidonEntertainment I hope you get to! It's so much different than it was then, it feels almost spiritual to the coaster lover. I moved away from the area in 2016 and haven't been back since then so I still haven't ridden Steel Vengeance which breaks my heart a bit. I've always had a soft spot for the memories I have of Mean Streak and a deep love of what RMC does, so it kills me a bit that I haven't ridden it 😭
I personally like to think FLY at Phantasialand as an example of a thrill coaster in an immersive land with non diegetic track that does not break the immersion of the land.
I really enjoyed this sort of general rollercoaster discussion. Why are wooden coasters interpreted through steel so good? Twisted Colossus I'm looking at you.
Lightning rod at Dollywood was on of the coolest visual coasters from a rider I’ve been on. After you get launched up the mountain and realize the hole coaster is in a mountain I was blown away.
I haven't been to Dollywood since around 2006 I believe, but I think there's a good chance I'll go this year. It seems iffy if Lightning Rod will even be open though.
@@PoseidonEntertainment it was down most of the day we got lucky, it’s an alright park. Cedar point is our home park so I’m spoiled with coasters haha.
The first coasters weren't always just about function. Premise-themed coasters actually existed as early as the 1890s, with many early coasters simulating trips through the Swiss Alps, the Grand Canyon, or the Venetian Canals. There was even an indoor coaster built in 1905 at Coney Island that simulated a trip through Hades over the River Styx. Walt Disney took inspiration from one of these early themed coasters, the Rutschebanen at Tivoli Gardens, for his Matterhorn coaster at Disneyland. Sadly, the Rutschebanen is the only surviving example of these early themed coasters as the building materials used for theming at that time were usually highly flammable.
LOVE this documentary!!! As an experience hunter rather than a thrill seeker (although i do like a good high thrill ride) I value and agree with your views so much!!
I never knew how to articulate how I felt about things, but you've just given me the words. "Experience hunter" would for sure be a more accurate description of myself as well. I've become so desensitized to the intensity and thrill of coasters, that I instead seek them for their aesthetic value and judge them based on how well their elements flow into a sensory narrative.
One of my favorite coasters in terms of being a major visual aspect/centerpiece of a park's landscape is Hakugei at Nagashima Spa Land (originally built by Intamin I think, but refurbished by RMC). Massive white frame with bright blue tracks, absolutely gorgeous coaster.
I admit I know little about coasters outside of the United States and Europe. I did consider looking to Japan and east Asia for other examples, but I didn't know enough to know how to demonstrate some of my points.
I appreciate the feedback, but I still have a long way to go. One of my largest issues is still doing voice overs consistently and articulating clearly. Looking back to my older videos, I see vast improvement, but it's still one of the aspects I still think needs a lot of work.
25:08 You forgot the other obvious example: Rock 'n' Roller Coaster at Disney MGM Studios. The track is definitely non-diegetic, meant to symbolize your mad rush through Los Angeles in order to get to the Aerosmith concert, but the entire setup from queue to gift shop tells a story as much as Gringotts or Expedition Everest does.
@@PoseidonEntertainment The fact that the MGM Studios version of RnRC executed its theme so well was part of the reason I was so disappointed in Paris's version.
I always love riding roller coasters with stories built into them. Because you mentioned Dollywood, I'll also bring up Mystery Mine. The backstory is told through the que and vulture animatronic outside the ride, and follows the riders as they explore the mine. Before the thrilling ending with the fire effects and hang time, the riders are subjected to a tension building scene of a canary falling over dead, and a scree showing the mine collapsing in in the riders during a lightning storm. Though the ride itself can be considered underwhelming for many, it's the narrative elements that keep me coming back for more
I haven't been to Dollywood since before they opened it. I meant to do a little research and maybe talk about it, but it got lost among other things in the script. I anticipate perhaps getting to Dollywood this year though, so I'm excited to experience it.
@@PoseidonEntertainment Hearing you cover something more regional like Dollywood would be awesome! It has so much charm! It definitely does what it can with the budget it has
@@PoseidonEntertainment It is more of a personal viewpoint. I needed a way to explain the concept and I found explaining it through a craftmanship works. Then a person making a chain he/she need to know how to bond then piece of wood in a way to make a chair and they choose how the chair looks. You want the back of the chair to be comfortable while still looking good.
@@randomusernameCallin That makes sense the way you've explained it. I looked up the definition of the word and couldn't find anything so specific, but I see what you're going for and I agree.
Incredible video very informative! It is amazing how rollercoasters have evolved and would be cool to see where coaster technology is headed in the future. Allegedly, Universal Epic Universe will be using the patented "Boom" coaster system for the Donkey Kong Country Mine Ride at the Super Nintendo World themed land being included in the park.
It's a possible video down the line. Because it would be a lot easier for me to get there though, I'll probably go and shoot my own B-Roll before actually doing a video on it though.
coaster trains transition between "blocks" in which they can be held should a train be located in the subsequent "block" of brakes or on a lift hill. using the example of montu, for example, were the train you were on travelling into the block brake before the train in the last "block" of station brakes had left, the ride would automatically engage and stop the train, preventing a collision. disney coasters often have a ton of blocks because they have a ton of trains. much of the straight flat track on coasters there are actually "blocks". you always have more blocks than trains as well.
@@PoseidonEntertainment a block zone is a section of ride that only one train may occupy at a time. At the end of a block zone there is a method to stop the train, in case the block zone ahead is still occupied. This is the safety system that prevents rollercoaster trains from colliding with one another.
Theming is great, but theming at the expense of the quality of the coaster itself is not my favorite. Universal is amazing, with quality coasters, but I still find myself leaning more towards parks like Cedar Point, as I value thrills over visuals. And you are correct that coasters are works of art themselves. Driving across the the causeway and walking into Cedar Point offers its own kind of visual appeal. Being surrounded by massive steel structures is incredible and immersive in its own way. I do think CP is in a beautiful location as well and has pretty nice landscaping. While I do adore parks like Disney and Universal, it just doesn't compete with riding tons of incredible coasters with friends, laughing and getting high on adrenaline for me. But I try to appreciate each park for what it offers, as each park is unique in its own way.
What coasters do you think sacrifice quality for theming? The only one that comes to mind is Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, but I can't really think of any other examples. Did you have something specific in mind?
I just wrote a very similar comment about the feeling of driving in on the causeway and seeing the park for the first time before I saw this one!! It makes me so happy to see someone else say it too 🥰
@@PoseidonEntertainment I personally thought Dragon's Challenge was a better ride than Hagrid's. Because of the the coasters themselves being more thrilling. But Hagrid's is still a fantastic ride with beautiful theming. And I totally understand its popularity and that it's targeted more towards families. I think Velocicoaster is a perfect balance of thrills and theming. But I would take something like Fury 325 or Steel Vengeance over something like Rockin Roller Coaster or Everest any day. Simply because the coasters themselves are so much better imo. Although I know they are targeted at different audiences. Thrills over theming for me. But I appreciate a coaster like Velocicoaster that has both.
I think "quality" is somewhat subjective. I personally really like highly themed experiences and find well done theming to significantly elevate a coaster. But for me, riding a coaster is very experiential and a multisensory experience. In that regard, some people really love dining at a restaurant with nice atmosphere and elegant presentation of the food while others just want it to taste really good. There's really no one correct perspective on that and it's just a matter of preference. I really enjoy parks like Cedar Point, Magic Mountain, Carowinds and Hersheypark but I still prefer parks like Universal, Disney, Busch Gardens or Silver Dollar City and Dollywood. I just think I get more out of the rides that adopt a theme or even tell a story. And a coaster can be thrilling while having a well done theme (such as Velocicoaster and Karnan.) But even if the coaster pacing is slowed down a bit for the narrative, I think what matters most is whether or not the narrative has a payoff. Take the firehouse on Fire Chaser Express at Dollywood or the final drop on Expedition Everest. The coaster stops but the narrative builds excitement and there is even a thrilling payoff. Same thing is true with the drop track on Verbolten. I'm not saying you need to prefer theming over intensity, airtime or pacing. I'm just saying that theming when done right can build emotional intensity that is its own reward. After all, the point of any ride is to stimulate our brains in a strategic way for a euphoric payoff.
I really wished you mentioned air at alton towers as the original flying b&m which imo does a lot of the 'flying' feel a lot better than the likes of Manta and co.
I recommend The Queue Line Lectures, a channel that inspired me to start producing videos. I don't think he publishes videos anymore, but they're definitely worth checking out if you're in line, as it seems he intended: ua-cam.com/channels/iOQB5Jmps21wF4D6FtUstQ.html
@@PoseidonEntertainment i rewatched a new hope recently and the whole movie is family friendly. I loved it as a kid and now as an adult. Disney keeps mistaking 'family' with 'children' and theyre adding more and more kid humor, bright colors and silly gags. Still enjoying it, but not as much as your channel
Another story coaster with non diegetic track is wicker man at Alton towers It’s themed to a pagan cult that appears once every one thousand years and has decided you to be sacrifices to the wicker man. The track is representative of the rituals preceding your sacrifice, as well as actually being sacrificed. Extremely morbid but this is the park that also themed an intamin family coaster to haunted plants killing excavation workers so 🤷♂️
I didn't really consider Wicker Man to fit into this category as it seems to represent its story in a more abstract way. The theming also isn't all encompassing in the same way that something like the Matterhorn is. I've never been on it, so if you want to make an argument otherwise, I'm all ears, but Wicker Man gives me the impression of being more like Mako or Montu. There's set pieces and theming, but not enough to consider a story being told. Of course, the categories I used in the video are arbitrary and a bit fluid in their application, so I'm not even sure if I understand the standard that I established.
@@PoseidonEntertainment yeah, at least manta opens up in a few days, but Atlantis still doesn’t have a reopening date (at least not announced on the website yet). Love your content ❤️
I'm going to copy and paste a comment I just made about it: "Verbolten is in a weird gray area where I feel it doesn't fit into any category. I do see that it attempts theming and story-telling, but too much of it is just unthemed track. I couldn't find a way to fit it in." I think I might be visiting Busch Gardens Williamsburg later this year, possibly in the summer. If so, I would do a video on it then.
Great video! I've always thought about rides this way but could never explain it or put it to words like this! Would you consider Verbolten at Busch Gardens Williamsburg a Storytelling roller coaster with non diegetic track? The story being a joyride through Germany going wrong when you get lost in the forbidden Forest. I always thought of Hagrids as the base idea that Verbolten had taken to its peak by universal since they have the license and budget to execute it.
Verbolten is in a weird gray area where I feel it doesn't fit into any category. I do see that it attempts theming and story-telling, but too much of it is just unthemed track. Perhaps you disagree, but I couldn't find a way to fit it in.
@@PoseidonEntertainment that is very fair. It falls into the same category as a lot of BG rides, heavily themed queue and some attempt at a story, but the on ride theming begins and ends at the trains. I guess "drive through the woods" was enough theming for me outside of the show building to consider it, but it's obviously nowhere near the amount of on ride theming that Hagrids has. I've also been on Verbolten but haven't been on Hagrids yet, so the comparison could completely fall apart when I experience Hagrids in person.
I think wicker Man in the UK has artistic merit and looks like it was designed for night rides with all the flames and smoke ect the wicker effigy nickname is bob
I intended to keep this particular logo unique to the video, as I wanted to convey a water theme specifically for Mako. I've occasionally done overlays for other logos if they made sense thematically.
I know of Arthur, but I don't actually know much about it, so I wasn't sure where to fit it. I also didn't think about Motiongate, but that could work as an interesting example.
@@PoseidonEntertainment It really shows where story telling rollercoasters go next. The best example for story telling roller coaster are the rides at Universal. But Dragon Gliders really takes it to a new level. Maybe you can make a special episode about story telling rollercoasters then.
I love this video!! Could you do a video about avatar in animal kingdom? Just recently got back from a trip there, and I haven't been able to stop thinking about that ride!!
How would you feel on an Encanto attraction or even a Pavilion at Epcot? I know how you feel about Frozen and other such attractions in World Showcase, but Encanto shows off much more of Colombia's culture, cuisine, and people than Frozen ever did with Norway. So having an attraction where the Madrigals show you, a visitor to the Encanto around and shows you the culture of Colombia could actually work out pretty well.
I think that World Showcase should be more realistic and less cartoon. Even if I thought it was a good idea though, I wouldn't trust Disney leadership to do anything other than do the absolute bare minimum to create a ride like this. It would only exist as a merchandising opportunity.
@@PoseidonEntertainment unfortunately, that scenario would likely be the case. They'd forego the culture and food and go straight to making the ride all about how tEcHnOlOgIcAlLy AdVaNcEd they are with making a magical house come alive with eFfEcTs and whatnot. They'd use the movie as a marketing sham.
Great video but I wouldn't call Gringotts a rollercoaster but a dark ride with coaster element, almost like Mummy but that was has a bit more coaster parts. I also think most coaster at Disney suffer from theming making the ride itself a bit of a letdown.
Awesome video like always! Would you be interested in receiving park maps from several European parks (Efteling, Europapark, Tivoli, Legoland, Phantasialand, and others)? I would normally mail you these but I couldn't find an address.
Bringing up Kumba and Montu made me really nostalgic. Those two were my faovrite coasters as soon as I was tall enough. Hell, I lived in Tampa at the time and remember the day I was tall enough to ride Scorpion the first time when I was like six. I was so glad. (Also I was still too short by a few inches when Montu came out, and was jealous of my taller classmates cuz it looked so cool.
Scorpion was my first coaster with an inversion, so I understand. I grew up within easy driving distance of Busch.
I'm really happy Busch Gardens has decided to fully commit to coasters. The amount we have access to now is just incredible. Montu was my first and my fondness for it is only comparable to a first love.
One of the most eloquent yet to the point video essays I’ve watched recently. Great job!
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback!
@@PoseidonEntertainment this was great, I really do think that Seaworld is becoming a Big Player in the Thrill Market.
Something of note about Hagrids that was pointed out to me: The track supports are actually textured to look like wood. A small detail, but a fun one, nonetheless.
Coasters provide a lot of very important kinetic energy to areas, and parks have realized this, and are honing this to a science. There are so many really good, visually appealing coasters that are opening. For instance, Iron Gwazi has a lot of visually striking elements, such as the Death Roll and the banked turn over the station. Additionally, the entirety of Velocicoaster is a visual marvel.
I hope that making visually interesting, thrilling coasters is going to become an industry standard.
As many times as I've been on Hagrid's, I've never noticed that. I'll look for it next time for sure.
I also agree about your point about kinetic energy. One of my favorite things about Busch Gardens is getting on the Skyride and seeing all the coasters juxtaposed with one another.
@@PoseidonEntertainment In terms of visually marvelous coasters, Florida's absolutely spoiled. Busch Gardens Tampa, SeaWorld Orlando, Universal IOA and Studios, the outdoor Disney coasters (though they number few), even the two Fun Spot parks look super good. Could watch 'em for hours.
Such rides, both in my home state and at parks I've been to really help provide some excellent inspiration for what I've done in games like Planet Coaster. It's a mess, but it's a damn good looking one.
@@gladiatordragon9219 yes we are. I saw this video pop up while I was at Universal today. Riding VelociCoaster and Hagrid’s back to back is a major privilege. Looking forward to riding Iron Gwazi in a few weeks!
@@wt7553 People Love Picking On Florida, But We Probably get more love than any other state in terms of attractions
@@kyogresfunchannel more love in terms of new residents as well, as well as a vacation spot for people sick of lockdown including left wing politicians, everyone
Your production value is getting really good. Your channel is extraordinarily under viewed. The content and presentation is truly top notch..
Thanks, I appreciate the support!
Loved this video! Just home from a few days at Universal Orlando and my first time on Hagrid's Motorbike and, of course, Velocicoaster. They are both works of art and probably my top 2 attractions in Orlando at this point. Ever since Velocicoaster opened, I've been binge watching roller coaster videos and reviews, and I've gained so much appreciation for the different design elements in addition to the thrills. I never thought I'd turn into a coaster enthusiast as I'm nearing middle age, but I'm now making a bucket list of coasters I want to experience all over the world. Thanks again for the wonderful video, and for your channel. I feel like we have many similar "values" when it comes to theme parks and immersive storytelling, and I'm so glad your voice is in the mix, especially since my OG most magical place appears to be going through a bit of an identity crisis these days.
Month holds a special place in heart due to it being my first Rollercoaster ever
Wow this is an incredibly unique incite! I’ve never thought of the comparison between non diegetic/ diegetic with the role of a track within a coaster. While I enjoy coasters I do definitely prefer a story driven experience over thrills and have often looked down on coasters with a non diegetic track as it takes me out of the immersion and believability, but this has definitely made me think of it in a different light!
Thanks for the video! I remember when parks measured their "park power" by the number of coasters they had vs the competition 😆
Kinda like an amusement park arms race
While I do enjoy the idea of parks having the "biggest" coaster and/or the largest number of them, I do appreciate how they've moved away from that, instead focusing on the entire package, rather than a novelty element or bragging rights. Perhaps we'll never get another Kingda Ka, but I'm glad that it exists.
Kind of feels like the bit-wars between Sega and Nintendo in the 90's. The accompanying commercials are just the best.
The Coaster Wars of the 90s and early 2000s certainly were something
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that always looks at rollercoasters as expressions of art. I absolutely love a coaster with a beautiful layout and visually stunning ride elements. I'll never tire of watching a coaster go through a corkscrew!
Even for rough Arrows, their classic corkscrew model for sure has that appeal. I remember really liking how Cedar Point's Corkscrew was positioned over the pathway. Even though older coasters are also lacking in elements, they still have a "classic" look to them that I also really like.
Art is whatever artists say it is, nothing more.
This is fascinating. As a young boy, a highlight of my year was the state fair, which featured a relatively modest wooden coaster. Of everything I experieced at the fair, this coaster produced the most enduring memory, and not just because of the thrills. Much of what sticks with me is the architectural presence of the coaster.
That's a good point. To add to that, while I wouldn't consider traveling fairs to necessarily be better than most amusement parks, they do have their own aesthetic and feeling that makes them worthwhile as well.
@@PoseidonEntertainment Thanks for the response! BTW, I should have mentioned that this is a permanent coaster at the Washington State Fairground in Puyallup, Washington. It only operates a few weeks a year, and dates back to 1935, although I understand that it has, essentially, been rebuilt. Clearly not in the same category as modern coasters, but not without its charms!
I still remember my very first adult roller coaster. Adventureland in Long Island, NY on a summer camp trip. It was just a fairground-sized coaster, but I’d never been on one before. I didn’t want the other boys to think I was “chicken” so I did it… And I fell in love with roller coasters.
ive said it before and ill say it again - taron is a literally perfect piece of kinetic art, i adore that ride. im glad someone made a video like this
This is hands down the best video you have made, and it made me tear up in a few places! Well done on all of this!
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback!
I really appreciate that you take a stance and make an argument in your video essays. I've often bemoaned large coasters with minimal theming for being eyesores, but that is because I never thought about them as storytelling devices through the track itself. I also love any video highlighting the artistic potential of theme parks and their attractions - they are the future of themed entertainment! There are plenty of informational videos around about coasters/dark rides/etc. but having a stance or opinion or critique that you back up makes your videos stand out. Thank you for changing my mind about the artistic merit of coasters! It will certainly make me complain less the next time I visit a park with seemingly-chintzy storytelling.
To be fair, a poorly placed coaster can indeed be an eyesore. I really hate the placement of Silver Bullet at Knotts, just sitting in the middle of the park with everything wrapped around it. The poor planning really detracts from its aesthetic appeal.
@@PoseidonEntertainment That's true. I haven't been to Knott's Berry Farm yet (it's on my list) but I'm inclined to believe that most coasters are not aesthetically pleasing, with thrills taking priority over story/setting (I know there are some exceptions, some of which you've highlighted). I wish that more thrilling attractions could have better theming or at least landscaping to hide the support beams or the flat space underneath the coaster. However, that probably takes money and effort that many parks don't have, which is why I thought your perspective on the art of coasters is a good one. It keeps me from writing off those coasters that are placed well in a park but are not themed to the nines.
11:00 With all due respect, Revolution is a masterclass on how to pace a roller coaster. The loop, being the primary draw, occurs towards the end of the ride, and the long, drawn out ramp down to it builds anticipation for the then-unique experience of turning upside down. The Roller Coaster Philosopher had a whole article on this; I recommend him highly.
I'll admit that I haven't been on it, but from visual inspection, I don't really see what you mean. I tried Googling what you had mentioned by I couldn't find any relevant results. Do you happen to have a link?
This video enlightened me so much! One of your best for sure. I never knew the art that’s within the coasters at parks I look down on like Sea World or Bush Gardens. Lovely video!!!
21:40 Nemesis at Alton Towers is also an example of diagetic track; the track is canonically the massive chains holding the Nemesis creature that is the station down, and the thrashings of the beast are what has twisted the track so much.
i loved this! it's really easy to experience a roller coaster without thinking too much into it and its really interesting breaking them down as an art form instead of just a thrill
Really excellent video. I think that coasters can definitely be architecturally artistic, especially at parks like Cedar Point and Magic Mountain where the park skyline is itself a sort of attraction and a source of excitement.
I especially enjoyed your section on diegesis and how track integrates into a narrative. It's one of the main reasons Disney doesn't typically have very large coasters. I hear people say that Disney doesn't build giant coasters like B&M hypercoasters because "Disney parks are for kids" but I don't think that's the issue at all. It's that Disney definitely prefers story telling over intensity of forces and diegesis is usually very important to them (except I guess with Tron.) It is very hard to build a gigantic coaster and build enough theming around it while hiding the track or justifying its visibility so the use of mine trains or coasters in the dark is the most straightforward answer. Even in the case of California Screamin', I think many people missed the point. I remember for years people would say "it's not really themed" but they didn't really get it. California Screamin' DEFINITELY was themed but it had the same meta theming that we now see in Velocicoaster. That is that it was a coaster themed to being a coaster. Only in the case of California Screamin', it was a steel coaster themed to being an old wooden coaster on a California boardwalk park like the two Giant Dipper coasters. I actually think that it makes less sense as Incredicoaster from a thematic standpoint than it did as California Screamin', but that gets us into the soul less disaster that Disney has turned DCA into and that's a conversation for another time.
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on Verbolten at Busch Gardens Williamsburg or Fire Chaser Express and Mystery Mine at Dollywood. They are all very fun coasters that are significantly elevated by their thematic elements. Mystery Mine features diegetic track (like most mine themed coasters) and Verbolten and Fire Chaser Express feature non-diagetic track. But they are all fantastic experiences and deserve a lot of praise.
You make a really good point about California Screamin' and I wished I would have mentioned it, even if it doesn't exist anymore thematically.
I thought about elaborating more on the coasters you mentioned, but I couldn't find a way to organically fit them into the script. Perhaps sometime later in another video. I have a strong inclination to visit both Busch Gardens Williamsburg and Dollywood this year, so that might be a possibility.
This video hit different - so many fabulous points! I was just at Universal Orlando last week and Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure and VelociCoaster are truly works of art! Both are incredibly thrilling, yet are incredibly comfortable rides!
Hagrid's continues to keep surprising me. No coaster has ever felt so consistently fun to me, no matter how many times I've been on it. The seating position in conjunction with the lateral g's is still pretty unique among coasters, and I think the track layout often gets overshadowed because of the theming. It makes me want to go out to SeaWorld San Antonio and ride Wave Runner.
Your videos are so intelligently put together. One example of coasters being art I'd like to add to the mix are the travelling coasters of Germany, such as Olympia Looping. They are always perfectly and very deliberately arranged so the lift is hidden at the back, and the loops arranged at the front in size order (smallest at the front) so as to showcase the coaster and entice paying riders. Not only are these coasters designed around these principles, but they must also be transportable and extremely high capacity. Combining function and style together like this is such an artform.
I just looked it up and that's pretty interesting. I wish I had known about that before writing my script, as I definitely would have included it. I've enjoyed the few Schwarzkopf coasters I've been on because I love their track design and how "classic" they feel, but I admittedly know little about the manufacturer's history.
The production value in the intro!! Loved the video as usual but you really stepped up the intro!
I do wish my footage of Mako was a bit better, but I'm still getting a feel for filming on coasters.
This is an incredible video. More people need to recognize the artistry of the things around them, especially coasters!
Beautifully made video, I don’t know much about rollercoasters but this video is very good at explaining the themes and elements of coasters
This has made me appreciate rollercoasters in a whole new way, thanks for this and all your other quality content!
This is one of my favorite videos that I've produced, I just wish that it had gained more traction lol
@@PoseidonEntertainment can imagine, seeing the amount of research and work that had clearly gone in. I'm just going through your entire back catalogue and liking everything, hope it helps even if it is ever so little. Keep up the good work!
I love this video so much 🥰 As soon as my boyfriend wakes up Im going to show him this. He's not a coaster guy but this perfectly explains a big part of why I love them so much ❤🥺
I grew up with Cedar Point as my home park, and the feeling of approaching the peninsula on the causeway entrance side and the moment when the park just comes into view is indescribable. There's nothing like that initial view of the rides, its perfect composition in my opinion 🥰
I haven't been to Cedar Point since... 2007 maybe? I would definitely like to go again though, most likely this year. I believe that I would perceive the park differently, appreciating it in a way that I couldn't when I was younger.
@@PoseidonEntertainment I hope you get to! It's so much different than it was then, it feels almost spiritual to the coaster lover. I moved away from the area in 2016 and haven't been back since then so I still haven't ridden Steel Vengeance which breaks my heart a bit. I've always had a soft spot for the memories I have of Mean Streak and a deep love of what RMC does, so it kills me a bit that I haven't ridden it 😭
I personally like to think FLY at Phantasialand as an example of a thrill coaster in an immersive land with non diegetic track that does not break the immersion of the land.
This is a great vid. All roller coasters are dope, but the ones that stick with you tell a story.
I really enjoyed this sort of general rollercoaster discussion. Why are wooden coasters interpreted through steel so good? Twisted Colossus I'm looking at you.
Lightning rod at Dollywood was on of the coolest visual coasters from a rider I’ve been on. After you get launched up the mountain and realize the hole coaster is in a mountain I was blown away.
I haven't been to Dollywood since around 2006 I believe, but I think there's a good chance I'll go this year. It seems iffy if Lightning Rod will even be open though.
@@PoseidonEntertainment it was down most of the day we got lucky, it’s an alright park. Cedar point is our home park so I’m spoiled with coasters haha.
The first coasters weren't always just about function. Premise-themed coasters actually existed as early as the 1890s, with many early coasters simulating trips through the Swiss Alps, the Grand Canyon, or the Venetian Canals. There was even an indoor coaster built in 1905 at Coney Island that simulated a trip through Hades over the River Styx. Walt Disney took inspiration from one of these early themed coasters, the Rutschebanen at Tivoli Gardens, for his Matterhorn coaster at Disneyland. Sadly, the Rutschebanen is the only surviving example of these early themed coasters as the building materials used for theming at that time were usually highly flammable.
Home park Busch Tampa represent! Kumba’s my favorite besides the old Gwazi.
LOVE this documentary!!! As an experience hunter rather than a thrill seeker (although i do like a good high thrill ride) I value and agree with your views so much!!
I never knew how to articulate how I felt about things, but you've just given me the words. "Experience hunter" would for sure be a more accurate description of myself as well. I've become so desensitized to the intensity and thrill of coasters, that I instead seek them for their aesthetic value and judge them based on how well their elements flow into a sensory narrative.
One of my favorite coasters in terms of being a major visual aspect/centerpiece of a park's landscape is Hakugei at Nagashima Spa Land (originally built by Intamin I think, but refurbished by RMC). Massive white frame with bright blue tracks, absolutely gorgeous coaster.
I admit I know little about coasters outside of the United States and Europe. I did consider looking to Japan and east Asia for other examples, but I didn't know enough to know how to demonstrate some of my points.
@@PoseidonEntertainment Still a great vid 👌
Very Impressive essay on the beautiful works of art that are indeed roller coasters. You’ve just earned your self a subscriber sir.
This was such a cool video. Loved it, honestly.
Gosh I just love your channel. Your videos are so well done!
Thanks, I'm glad that you enjoy!
You should make movies. The production value on these video essays is chefs 👩🍳 kiss 💋 🤌
I appreciate the feedback, but I still have a long way to go. One of my largest issues is still doing voice overs consistently and articulating clearly. Looking back to my older videos, I see vast improvement, but it's still one of the aspects I still think needs a lot of work.
Really comprehensive vid! You deserve way more subs, super content. 👌
Was not expecting a shout out for Black Diamond at Knoebel's but I'm here for it.
I tried to move away just from Disney and Universal, adding in other examples as well. There's not too many, but I felt it fit.
25:08 You forgot the other obvious example: Rock 'n' Roller Coaster at Disney MGM Studios. The track is definitely non-diegetic, meant to symbolize your mad rush through Los Angeles in order to get to the Aerosmith concert, but the entire setup from queue to gift shop tells a story as much as Gringotts or Expedition Everest does.
You've made good points about both this and Nemesis.
@@PoseidonEntertainment The fact that the MGM Studios version of RnRC executed its theme so well was part of the reason I was so disappointed in Paris's version.
I always love riding roller coasters with stories built into them. Because you mentioned Dollywood, I'll also bring up Mystery Mine. The backstory is told through the que and vulture animatronic outside the ride, and follows the riders as they explore the mine. Before the thrilling ending with the fire effects and hang time, the riders are subjected to a tension building scene of a canary falling over dead, and a scree showing the mine collapsing in in the riders during a lightning storm. Though the ride itself can be considered underwhelming for many, it's the narrative elements that keep me coming back for more
I haven't been to Dollywood since before they opened it. I meant to do a little research and maybe talk about it, but it got lost among other things in the script. I anticipate perhaps getting to Dollywood this year though, so I'm excited to experience it.
@@PoseidonEntertainment Hearing you cover something more regional like Dollywood would be awesome! It has so much charm! It definitely does what it can with the budget it has
I would say that making a rollercoaster is more of a craft as in a mixture of art and engineering.
Is that the definition of that word?
@@PoseidonEntertainment It is more of a personal viewpoint.
I needed a way to explain the concept and I found explaining it through a craftmanship works. Then a person making a chain he/she need to know how to bond then piece of wood in a way to make a chair and they choose how the chair looks.
You want the back of the chair to be comfortable while still looking good.
@@randomusernameCallin That makes sense the way you've explained it. I looked up the definition of the word and couldn't find anything so specific, but I see what you're going for and I agree.
This channel continues to be top class, my lad. Keep it up
Thanks, I'm glad that you enjoyed!
Incredible video very informative! It is amazing how rollercoasters have evolved and would be cool to see where coaster technology is headed in the future. Allegedly, Universal Epic Universe will be using the patented "Boom" coaster system for the Donkey Kong Country Mine Ride at the Super Nintendo World themed land being included in the park.
That does seem interesting, especially considering that the track goes outside. I'm curious to see how they pull that off.
Rapid switch tracks. I imagine we are going to be seeing alot more of them
You should talk more about silver dollar city’s excellent theming!
It's a possible video down the line. Because it would be a lot easier for me to get there though, I'll probably go and shoot my own B-Roll before actually doing a video on it though.
First thing I think of with San Francisco is its poop app, to aid you in avoiding the fecal matter littering the city. xD
Glad to know I wasn’t the only one who thought of that.
Admittedly, I've never been to San Francisco. I only used it as an example because I was looking at a LEGO Architecture set.
What coaster is this @9:20 ?
El Toro
Great Video! But what is a “Blockzone” I wish there were a UA-camr who perfectly explained that
coaster trains transition between "blocks" in which they can be held should a train be located in the subsequent "block" of brakes or on a lift hill. using the example of montu, for example, were the train you were on travelling into the block brake before the train in the last "block" of station brakes had left, the ride would automatically engage and stop the train, preventing a collision. disney coasters often have a ton of blocks because they have a ton of trains. much of the straight flat track on coasters there are actually "blocks". you always have more blocks than trains as well.
I'm assuming this is an El Toro Ryan reference, right?
@@PoseidonEntertainment yeah
@@PoseidonEntertainment a block zone is a section of ride that only one train may occupy at a time. At the end of a block zone there is a method to stop the train, in case the block zone ahead is still occupied. This is the safety system that prevents rollercoaster trains from colliding with one another.
In my a opinion a good coaster must have a equal amount of Quality thrill and theming
What if the point of a coaster is just the thrill though? Intimidator 305 doesn't seem like it needs theming to stand out.
Theming is great, but theming at the expense of the quality of the coaster itself is not my favorite. Universal is amazing, with quality coasters, but I still find myself leaning more towards parks like Cedar Point, as I value thrills over visuals. And you are correct that coasters are works of art themselves. Driving across the the causeway and walking into Cedar Point offers its own kind of visual appeal. Being surrounded by massive steel structures is incredible and immersive in its own way. I do think CP is in a beautiful location as well and has pretty nice landscaping. While I do adore parks like Disney and Universal, it just doesn't compete with riding tons of incredible coasters with friends, laughing and getting high on adrenaline for me. But I try to appreciate each park for what it offers, as each park is unique in its own way.
What coasters do you think sacrifice quality for theming? The only one that comes to mind is Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, but I can't really think of any other examples. Did you have something specific in mind?
I just wrote a very similar comment about the feeling of driving in on the causeway and seeing the park for the first time before I saw this one!! It makes me so happy to see someone else say it too 🥰
@@PoseidonEntertainment I personally thought Dragon's Challenge was a better ride than Hagrid's. Because of the the coasters themselves being more thrilling. But Hagrid's is still a fantastic ride with beautiful theming. And I totally understand its popularity and that it's targeted more towards families. I think Velocicoaster is a perfect balance of thrills and theming. But I would take something like Fury 325 or Steel Vengeance over something like Rockin Roller Coaster or Everest any day. Simply because the coasters themselves are so much better imo. Although I know they are targeted at different audiences. Thrills over theming for me. But I appreciate a coaster like Velocicoaster that has both.
@@CaBobProductions It's really a breathtaking site to behold! Cedar Point is such a special park, with an indescribable atmosphere!
I think "quality" is somewhat subjective. I personally really like highly themed experiences and find well done theming to significantly elevate a coaster. But for me, riding a coaster is very experiential and a multisensory experience. In that regard, some people really love dining at a restaurant with nice atmosphere and elegant presentation of the food while others just want it to taste really good. There's really no one correct perspective on that and it's just a matter of preference.
I really enjoy parks like Cedar Point, Magic Mountain, Carowinds and Hersheypark but I still prefer parks like Universal, Disney, Busch Gardens or Silver Dollar City and Dollywood. I just think I get more out of the rides that adopt a theme or even tell a story. And a coaster can be thrilling while having a well done theme (such as Velocicoaster and Karnan.) But even if the coaster pacing is slowed down a bit for the narrative, I think what matters most is whether or not the narrative has a payoff. Take the firehouse on Fire Chaser Express at Dollywood or the final drop on Expedition Everest. The coaster stops but the narrative builds excitement and there is even a thrilling payoff. Same thing is true with the drop track on Verbolten.
I'm not saying you need to prefer theming over intensity, airtime or pacing. I'm just saying that theming when done right can build emotional intensity that is its own reward. After all, the point of any ride is to stimulate our brains in a strategic way for a euphoric payoff.
I really wished you mentioned air at alton towers as the original flying b&m which imo does a lot of the 'flying' feel a lot better than the likes of Manta and co.
Watching this in the Hagrid’s line.
I recommend The Queue Line Lectures, a channel that inspired me to start producing videos. I don't think he publishes videos anymore, but they're definitely worth checking out if you're in line, as it seems he intended: ua-cam.com/channels/iOQB5Jmps21wF4D6FtUstQ.html
I'm officially more excited for a new episode from Poseidon than Book of Boba Fett 😄 another great video brotha
Book of Boba Fett has been... okay. I still like it, but I'm not itching for every new episode.
@@PoseidonEntertainment i rewatched a new hope recently and the whole movie is family friendly. I loved it as a kid and now as an adult. Disney keeps mistaking 'family' with 'children' and theyre adding more and more kid humor, bright colors and silly gags. Still enjoying it, but not as much as your channel
@@astroguster5522 That seems like an issue company-wide. I'm tired of theming for small children being labelled as "family" attractions.
This guy won't mention the words Six Flags Great Adventure but shows their roller-coasters and is driving me nuts.
There were a lot of coasters where I didn't mention the parks. It didn't always seem necessary to do so to illustrate the points.
@@PoseidonEntertainment come on now. It's a hop, skip, and a jump away. You kept teasing me with Kingda Ka.
I'm a part of the American Coaster Enthusiasts
Out of curiosity do you think you'll make a video covering Warners Bro. World in Dubai?
Possibly, but not anytime soon.
At least it has some theming. A lot of coasters just have an old parking lot or sand, nothing to look at at all.
What are you referencing?
@@PoseidonEntertainment - Knott's Berry Farm - but it's been a while since I've been there so maybe it's changed. Magic Mountain is another.
Another story coaster with non diegetic track is wicker man at Alton towers
It’s themed to a pagan cult that appears once every one thousand years and has decided you to be sacrifices to the wicker man. The track is representative of the rituals preceding your sacrifice, as well as actually being sacrificed.
Extremely morbid but this is the park that also themed an intamin family coaster to haunted plants killing excavation workers so 🤷♂️
I didn't really consider Wicker Man to fit into this category as it seems to represent its story in a more abstract way. The theming also isn't all encompassing in the same way that something like the Matterhorn is. I've never been on it, so if you want to make an argument otherwise, I'm all ears, but Wicker Man gives me the impression of being more like Mako or Montu. There's set pieces and theming, but not enough to consider a story being told. Of course, the categories I used in the video are arbitrary and a bit fluid in their application, so I'm not even sure if I understand the standard that I established.
Was just at seaworld yesterday and this popped up 😅
Too bad they have both Atlantis and Manta down at the same time for refurb. What a stupid decision.
@@PoseidonEntertainment yeah, at least manta opens up in a few days, but Atlantis still doesn’t have a reopening date (at least not announced on the website yet).
Love your content ❤️
Great video!!!
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback!
Have you looked into Verbolten at Busch Gardens Williamsburg? I'd love to see you do a video on it!
I'm going to copy and paste a comment I just made about it:
"Verbolten is in a weird gray area where I feel it doesn't fit into any category. I do see that it attempts theming and story-telling, but too much of it is just unthemed track. I couldn't find a way to fit it in."
I think I might be visiting Busch Gardens Williamsburg later this year, possibly in the summer. If so, I would do a video on it then.
Great video! I've always thought about rides this way but could never explain it or put it to words like this! Would you consider Verbolten at Busch Gardens Williamsburg a Storytelling roller coaster with non diegetic track? The story being a joyride through Germany going wrong when you get lost in the forbidden Forest.
I always thought of Hagrids as the base idea that Verbolten had taken to its peak by universal since they have the license and budget to execute it.
Verbolten is in a weird gray area where I feel it doesn't fit into any category. I do see that it attempts theming and story-telling, but too much of it is just unthemed track. Perhaps you disagree, but I couldn't find a way to fit it in.
@@PoseidonEntertainment that is very fair. It falls into the same category as a lot of BG rides, heavily themed queue and some attempt at a story, but the on ride theming begins and ends at the trains. I guess "drive through the woods" was enough theming for me outside of the show building to consider it, but it's obviously nowhere near the amount of on ride theming that Hagrids has.
I've also been on Verbolten but haven't been on Hagrids yet, so the comparison could completely fall apart when I experience Hagrids in person.
I think wicker Man in the UK has artistic merit and looks like it was designed for night rides with all the flames and smoke ect the wicker effigy nickname is bob
Great Video
Thanks, I appreciate the support!
Me: Can’t handle roller coasters
Also me: Watches this video
Also I love the new logo! Will it be used in your future videos?
I intended to keep this particular logo unique to the video, as I wanted to convey a water theme specifically for Mako. I've occasionally done overlays for other logos if they made sense thematically.
I'm surpized Arthur from Europa Park or Dragon Gliders in Motionworld Dubai wasn't even mentioned.
I know of Arthur, but I don't actually know much about it, so I wasn't sure where to fit it. I also didn't think about Motiongate, but that could work as an interesting example.
@@PoseidonEntertainment It really shows where story telling rollercoasters go next. The best example for story telling roller coaster are the rides at Universal. But Dragon Gliders really takes it to a new level. Maybe you can make a special episode about story telling rollercoasters then.
I love this video!! Could you do a video about avatar in animal kingdom? Just recently got back from a trip there, and I haven't been able to stop thinking about that ride!!
I did already cover it pretty extensively if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/U5NCmNI50X0/v-deo.html
How would you feel on an Encanto attraction or even a Pavilion at Epcot? I know how you feel about Frozen and other such attractions in World Showcase, but Encanto shows off much more of Colombia's culture, cuisine, and people than Frozen ever did with Norway. So having an attraction where the Madrigals show you, a visitor to the Encanto around and shows you the culture of Colombia could actually work out pretty well.
I think that World Showcase should be more realistic and less cartoon. Even if I thought it was a good idea though, I wouldn't trust Disney leadership to do anything other than do the absolute bare minimum to create a ride like this. It would only exist as a merchandising opportunity.
@@PoseidonEntertainment unfortunately, that scenario would likely be the case. They'd forego the culture and food and go straight to making the ride all about how tEcHnOlOgIcAlLy AdVaNcEd they are with making a magical house come alive with eFfEcTs and whatnot. They'd use the movie as a marketing sham.
Great video but I wouldn't call Gringotts a rollercoaster but a dark ride with coaster element, almost like Mummy but that was has a bit more coaster parts.
I also think most coaster at Disney suffer from theming making the ride itself a bit of a letdown.
Gringotts is definitely 95% drive tires, but I do consider the small gravity portions to be coaster track.
Really? Kumba’s most iconic part is the corkscrews? Not the loop lift hill combo?
Yeah that's iconic for sure, but the corkscrews definitely stand out right at the entrance.
Aparently kumba does not mean roar😮
Awesome video like always!
Would you be interested in receiving park maps from several European parks (Efteling, Europapark, Tivoli, Legoland, Phantasialand, and others)? I would normally mail you these but I couldn't find an address.
I would rather not post my address and I currently don't have a P.O. box, but perhaps in the future.
Going Giga?
I'm unaware of what you're alluding to.
Knobles. the K is pronounced.
Ah, I didn't know that. Next time then lol
San Fran: homeless population lol