Thank you so so much! This will be so helpfull to orthodox christians. I am glad that you mentionned that we should not theologise. In the beginning, when my spiritual father said this to me, I was a bit disappointed, because I had this enthousiasm! I tried to listen to him though, because I assumed that he knew exactly what he said and why he said it. This was the best advice given to me. I took me YEARS to comprehend why he said what he said. I suppose it is part of the φρόνημα. My spiritual father also told me NOT to compare orthodoxy with other religions, ever. I understand now why....orthodoxy really re-shaped my thinking and behaviour and still I have a lot to learn. Again: you two are gold!! I thank God !
When I converted to Orthodoxy after being in Evangelical Churches for 25 years (and having taught Bible studies and even spent time as a Youth leader and gave several sermons over that time), I felt that I should keep quiet and just keep learning, praying, etc. I thought something was wrong with me or that I was not being a good Christian. Thanks be to God for this, Dr. Jeannie helped me to see that I was actually listening to the Holy Spirit and the Church Fathers!
This was so eye opening for this recently chrismated Orthodox Christian, and answered so many questions I have (a lot of them in response to watching too many Orthodox UA-cam videos).I am reading Jeannie’s book now. I could feel myself starting to lean towards Pharisaical thinking, and I needed to hear this for humility. I know nothing. Can’t thank you enough for this interview, God bless you!
What incredible insight you have, Dr. Constantinou. I have very fond memories of taking Early Christianity with you at the University of San Diego. Orthodox Christians such as yourself reinforce my happiness for having converted to Orthodoxy 14 years ago. Many blessings! IC XC NIKA
That was really good. It's great that Dr Jeannie has decided to be a voice for the church and there are theologians that are starting to speak out like Fr Whiteford and Fr Ramsey and Fr Trenham as well etc. I'm just wondering what the difference is between sharing and theologising is though? Anyway I'm off to find the video with her speaking to Mexatas. All the best with your studies.
Thank you! I think she would say that if you in private or with a group of friends share your faith, that is one thing, and another thing if you do it officially on the internet. During the interview, she made also a distinction between speaking, let say about the Bible, and theologising about the heavy stuff. Everyone is called to witness but not everyone is called to be a teacher. To be a teacher you need personal experience and education. I don't want to put words in Dr Constantinou's mouth but that is my takeaway from this interview! Hope it helps
@@AccordingtoJohn Yes that's very helpful, so basically keep to sharing your faith in a general manner but when it comes to the more indepth theology it's best to have ppl like Fr Trenham and Dr Jeannie etc speak about these things. It's very good advice, I think i myself need to adhere to more. Cheers.
@@AccordingtoJohn You really are! I didn't know you were a theology student until I listened to this interview but I did know you were incredibly humble and measured in spite of being well read. You are an invaluable resource and I include you in my prayers as often as I remember. May God bless you.
Just started reading Dr. Jeannie's book "Thinking Orthodox". Only 20 pages in, and it is already one of the most fascinating books I think I have ever read!
Maybe I'm misunderstanding her point, but the idea that the Son came as a sacrifice to purge sin is not based on "rationalism." It's based on the teachings of almost all of our catechisms, the old testament and is clearly taught by the fathers. Christ is the lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world (John 1:29). He is the scapegoat of Leviticus 16 and bronze serpent lifted on the pole in Numbers 21 (and John 12:32).
@CultofModernism I think she's critiquing a merely legal or mechanical transaction interpretation. Orthodoxy has the concept of salvation as "theosis", an actual participation in the divine life of God. Christ renews creation, we have to enter into it, be transformed ontologically, not merely assent to it by saying "I believe Jesus paid my ticket."
Yes...Catholics call it the 'development of doctine' to justify all the changes that have taken place. They don't look to the early Church or depend on the Church Fathers like we do. Therefore I never felt connected to the early Church when I was Catholic. Through the prayers of our Holy Fathers Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on us and save us☦.
Hi Marie Egypt, I was wondering if I can connect with you as I'm getting many questions from an RC friend of mine regarding how the orthodox is in the wrong woth many aspects and I wanted to touch base with you via social media of you have or email with my list of questions. Since you were catholic, I think you would have a wealth of knowledge on this topic. Please let me know. Brother in Christ
@@paulpeter2869 Yes. I can try to help you. I have forgotten a lot about my Catholic faith because it truly is a hindrance to embracing Orthodoxy. So let me know the best way to contact you.
It would be interesting to hear dr. Jeanine say something about Persian Christians who were, as they say, the Christianity of Saint John Apostle, among these were the Marcions etc.
It's funny. She just explained to me why I am drawn East. I need to stop panicking and trying to find answers to an endless series of questions and theories and just rest where God led me and where I experience His presence. Not that I'll stop thinking but God forced me to submit to Him beyond my own limits long before He told me to go to Church. The very moment the GOC door opened when I knocked I recognised it as God's.
When Luther took the Priesthood out of the Church and made the Lay people their own Priest and Kingship. Which but the focus on the individual instead of the communal. Now hundreds of years later... It's all about me. Did I raise my hand and except Jesus? Do I accept Him as Lord? Did I walk down the isle to the alter? It's all about me and what I want. I think that is a misguided focus. I need to look to Yeshua Christos not me. Just my thought. Please don't take offense. Im still grateful for my protestant upbringing. But more grateful to have been found by the Orthodox Faith
Thank you so so much! This will be so helpfull to orthodox christians. I am glad that you mentionned that we should not theologise. In the beginning, when my spiritual father said this to me, I was a bit disappointed, because I had this enthousiasm! I tried to listen to him though, because I assumed that he knew exactly what he said and why he said it. This was the best advice given to me. I took me YEARS to comprehend why he said what he said. I suppose it is part of the φρόνημα. My spiritual father also told me NOT to compare orthodoxy with other religions, ever. I understand now why....orthodoxy really re-shaped my thinking and behaviour and still I have a lot to learn. Again: you two are gold!! I thank God !
When I converted to Orthodoxy after being in Evangelical Churches for 25 years (and having taught Bible studies and even spent time as a Youth leader and gave several sermons over that time), I felt that I should keep quiet and just keep learning, praying, etc. I thought something was wrong with me or that I was not being a good Christian. Thanks be to God for this, Dr. Jeannie helped me to see that I was actually listening to the Holy Spirit and the Church Fathers!
Love this lady!! 🔥🔥🔥
This was so eye opening for this recently chrismated Orthodox Christian, and answered so many questions I have (a lot of them in response to watching too many Orthodox UA-cam videos).I am reading Jeannie’s book now. I could feel myself starting to lean towards Pharisaical thinking, and I needed to hear this for humility. I know nothing. Can’t thank you enough for this interview, God bless you!
Dr Jeannie is a great speaker and very captivating. As a greek I’m very happy to see her come out of our church and our ethnic background.
Thank you presvytera. I really loved this interview. Will read your book as soon as I get some time.
Dr has been so helpful for my through my conversion the past few years. I praise God for her. Thank you for this enlightening interview brother
I am glad it has been for your benefit
What incredible insight you have, Dr. Constantinou. I have very fond memories of taking Early Christianity with you at the University of San Diego. Orthodox Christians such as yourself reinforce my happiness for having converted to Orthodoxy 14 years ago. Many blessings! IC XC NIKA
Dr Jeannie Constantinou is an extraordinary theologian … loved this conversation !! Thank you both ❤️
That was really good. It's great that Dr Jeannie has decided to be a voice for the church and there are theologians that are starting to speak out like Fr Whiteford and Fr Ramsey and Fr Trenham as well etc.
I'm just wondering what the difference is between sharing and theologising is though?
Anyway I'm off to find the video with her speaking to Mexatas.
All the best with your studies.
Thank you! I think she would say that if you in private or with a group of friends share your faith, that is one thing, and another thing if you do it officially on the internet. During the interview, she made also a distinction between speaking, let say about the Bible, and theologising about the heavy stuff. Everyone is called to witness but not everyone is called to be a teacher. To be a teacher you need personal experience and education. I don't want to put words in Dr Constantinou's mouth but that is my takeaway from this interview! Hope it helps
@@AccordingtoJohn
Yes that's very helpful, so basically keep to sharing your faith in a general manner but when it comes to the more indepth theology it's best to have ppl like Fr Trenham and Dr Jeannie etc speak about these things. It's very good advice, I think i myself need to adhere to more. Cheers.
I could not find the interview with Dr Jeannie and Mexatas. Could you direct me ? TY 🙏
I love her passion about the subject 💕👍🎶
Listening to her on OCN right now.
Very good and valuable interview John! Well done. Thank you.
Thank you! Glad I can be of any use for the Church
@@AccordingtoJohn You really are! I didn't know you were a theology student until I listened to this interview but I did know you were incredibly humble and measured in spite of being well read. You are an invaluable resource and I include you in my prayers as often as I remember. May God bless you.
@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 Thank you for your prayers, it means a lot!
God bless!
God bless!! Thank you
Just started reading Dr. Jeannie's book "Thinking Orthodox". Only 20 pages in, and it is already one of the most fascinating books I think I have ever read!
Maybe I'm misunderstanding her point, but the idea that the Son came as a sacrifice to purge sin is not based on "rationalism." It's based on the teachings of almost all of our catechisms, the old testament and is clearly taught by the fathers. Christ is the lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world (John 1:29). He is the scapegoat of Leviticus 16 and bronze serpent lifted on the pole in Numbers 21 (and John 12:32).
@CultofModernism I think she's critiquing a merely legal or mechanical transaction interpretation. Orthodoxy has the concept of salvation as "theosis", an actual participation in the divine life of God. Christ renews creation, we have to enter into it, be transformed ontologically, not merely assent to it by saying "I believe Jesus paid my ticket."
Brilliantly articulated!
Yes...Catholics call it the 'development of doctine' to justify all the changes that have taken place. They don't look to the early Church or depend on the Church Fathers like we do. Therefore I never felt connected to the early Church when I was Catholic. Through the prayers of our Holy Fathers Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on us and save us☦.
Hi Marie Egypt, I was wondering if I can connect with you as I'm getting many questions from an RC friend of mine regarding how the orthodox is in the wrong woth many aspects and I wanted to touch base with you via social media of you have or email with my list of questions.
Since you were catholic, I think you would have a wealth of knowledge on this topic.
Please let me know.
Brother in Christ
@@paulpeter2869 Yes. I can try to help you. I have forgotten a lot about my Catholic faith because it truly is a hindrance to embracing Orthodoxy. So let me know the best way to contact you.
@@marieegypt7091 I can be reached via FB, IG or email. Which do you prefer? Thanks again
@@paulpeter2869 Email is best. I looked for yours but didn't see it.
@@marieegypt7091 hi did you receive my email address? Is there a way I can find yours? Thanks
Just ordered the book!
It would be interesting to hear dr. Jeanine say something about Persian Christians who were, as they say, the Christianity of Saint John Apostle, among these were the Marcions etc.
Eric Metaxas seems like a lovely person all in all.
He seams to be a nice guy, he has done some work I appreciate
watch scoan Thessalonica
Dr Constantinou, just say his name - David Bentley Hart
Interesting comment from “anonymous” ;)
@@AccordingtoJohn You know it
Don't get me wrong I enjoy a good David Bentley Hart UA-cam video in an all-in-wrestling sort of way
It's funny. She just explained to me why I am drawn East. I need to stop panicking and trying to find answers to an endless series of questions and theories and just rest where God led me and where I experience His presence. Not that I'll stop thinking but God forced me to submit to Him beyond my own limits long before He told me to go to Church. The very moment the GOC door opened when I knocked I recognised it as God's.
When Luther took the Priesthood out of the Church and made the Lay people their own Priest and Kingship. Which but the focus on the individual instead of the communal. Now hundreds of years later... It's all about me. Did I raise my hand and except Jesus? Do I accept Him as Lord? Did I walk down the isle to the alter? It's all about me and what I want. I think that is a misguided focus. I need to look to Yeshua Christos not me.
Just my thought. Please don't take offense. Im still grateful for my protestant upbringing. But more grateful to have been found by the Orthodox Faith